Time Nick Message 04:23 swift110-phone Hey all 08:32 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy International Dot Day! 😃 08:57 ancer hi, everyone 08:57 ancer i'm writing mod that uses entity with physical=true 08:58 ancer how to determine a moment when entity has collided with another entity or node? 08:59 ancer I use setvelocity method and want to know when entity has stopped due to collision 11:54 Megaf Hi 11:55 Megaf Hi swift110-phone JamesTait 11:55 Megaf nrzkt: Hi there, isnt the OS X kernel based on FreeBSD too? 11:56 Megaf cheapie: I just use Irrlicht from their SVN and LuaJIT from their Git, no problems at all 11:56 Megaf cheapie: also, no need to compile Irrlicht for server builds 11:57 nrzkt Megaf: absolutely NO 11:57 Megaf Who wrote meselamps and mesegates mod? 11:57 nrzkt OS X uses Mach micro kernel + Darwin 11:57 Megaf Yes, and where the Darwin kernel comes from? 11:57 Megaf I think it has patches from BSD 12:00 * Megaf researches 12:02 Megaf nrzkt: well, Darwin comes from NextSTEP and NextSTEP from BSD 12:03 Megaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_timeline.en.svg 12:03 Megaf Darwin is built around XNU, a hybrid kernel that combines the Mach 3 microkernel, various elements of BSD 12:03 Megaf Darwin is a Frankstein 12:04 nrzkt yes 12:04 nrzkt it's exact, but Darwin != BSD atm 12:07 Megaf I'm still not sure what is my favorite kernel 12:07 Megaf even the Windows NT Kernel itself is a good kernel 12:07 Megaf I think Linux is just the easiest to change and recompile 12:07 Megaf you dont see FreeBSD people recompiling the FreeBSD kernel 12:08 Megaf do you? 12:30 nrzkt yes, for performance and minimizing the functions to the minimal needed 12:31 nrzkt example: removing drivers, removing non needed functions etc + compiler options to generate a full optimized code 13:32 exio4 Megaf: why do you like suffering so much? 13:32 Megaf exio4: Whay you ask that? 13:33 exio4 you're using gnome and wayland! 13:36 Megaf exio4: Everything works fine, but minetest 13:36 exio4 are you also using systemd? :p 13:36 exio4 (and fedora?) 13:36 Megaf exio4: and the real reason Im doing that is because Mutter crashes when starting with X and nouveau 13:37 Megaf but it works with Wayland, go figure 13:37 exio4 oh, I changed to an AMD GPU a year ago 13:37 Megaf Right now I'm on XFCE on X :D 13:37 exio4 I had a nvidia gpu and gave up on trying to make it run my games 13:38 Megaf exio4: Yep, I'm typing from my 2010 Macbook Pro, my new laptop is a Toshiba Satellite with AMD GPU, much happines :) 13:38 exio4 oh, that explains the issues 13:38 Megaf with nvidia I can't even use the proprietary driver on 64 bit and (u)EFI 13:39 Megaf I have to use MBR emulation 13:40 Megaf so, I'm stuck with crashy nouveau 13:40 Megaf If I could change my GPU I would 13:42 exio4 yeah, this is a desktop 13:42 exio4 I really hate laptops unless it works extremely well, and hardware never works 13:42 exio4 not even under windows, if you wonder 13:44 Megaf exio4: well, on my macbook pro everything works perfect, just a few crashes with nouveau... 13:45 Megaf and on my toshiba everything but the bluetooth card work well 13:45 Megaf using Debian Jessie 13:45 Megaf GNOME on my macbook pro worked, until I upgrade from Jessie to Stretch 14:16 Megaf !server Megaf 14:16 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms 14:50 Megaf !seen Megaf 14:50 MinetestBot Megaf: megaf was last seen at 2015-09-15 14:16:22 UTC on #minetest 14:50 Megaf !seen Nekofire 14:50 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen nekofire around. 15:56 waressearcher2 http://i.imgur.com/HF3nwWY.png how was that made ? block by block or some 3d model converted in to voxel model ? 16:02 T4im I think you will have to ask the author, both is thinkable 16:06 Calinou I hardly think it's block by block :P 16:06 Calinou mauvebic did it, he left a while ago 16:07 waressearcher2 so its possible to export any 3d model in the world ? is it easy to do ? 16:08 est31 is it possible? -> yes 16:08 T4im I bet there were crazier things build by hand, as well :P 16:08 est31 is it easy? -> depends on the definition 16:08 est31 but generally it is 16:56 * Krock gives Out`Of`Control a car to drive it into a wall 17:18 Out`Of`Control hey Krock, there is an update ? 17:19 Krock Out`Of`Control, I got quite angry when I tried to fix this earlier.. I don't know what to do to solve that stuff 17:20 Out`Of`Control Krock: i am happy that it does not crash server anymore lol 17:21 Krock1 Just testing Thunderbird's chat function :) 17:28 Krock The moment when there's the question on the sheet: "Does HTTP garantuee that you're browsing safely?" with the answers "Yes", "No" but no "In most cases, yes."? 17:28 Krock Teachers, please. 17:28 Krock *HTTPS 17:28 waressearcher2 what is "safely" ? privately ? 17:28 Calinou In most cases, maybe that perhaps it can be safe. 17:29 est31 yea thats the next question 17:29 est31 a flash virus can be delivered via HTTPS as well as HTTP 17:29 waressearcher2 or "safely" means you will not catch any trojans,backdoors ? 17:29 est31 well https is more than just privacy 17:30 Krock Yeah, the question was somewhat imprecise. 17:30 waressearcher2 or can HTTP be used while driving in a car, is that "safely" ? 17:30 Krock waressearcher2, eh, no, it's good. 17:30 est31 I mean if I have POST bank.com/send_money.asp?to=563634&amount=42 17:31 est31 then its not privacy anymore 17:31 est31 anybody in your wlan could give them money xD 17:34 waressearcher2 bank.com/get_money.asp?to=563634&amount=1000000 17:37 est31 no 42 is a nicer number 17:37 waressearcher2 not if you get 42 cents per hour job 17:38 waressearcher2 why minetest "looks" different from minecraft, I mean not textures, it "feel" different, they both use opengl right ? so what is the other stuff that is different ? you can say engine, but what exactly ? 17:39 est31 waressearcher2, well then you should get 42 cents per second job 17:39 est31 or milisecond 17:39 est31 or sth between 17:46 kahrl wait a second 17:46 kahrl isn't there a * BS missing somewhere 17:47 kahrl er, that should be in -dev 17:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Disallow placing entities outside safe boundaries 13f61f817 http://git.io/vZdkY (152015-09-15T19:45:17+02:00) 17:48 kahrl (was talking about this commit ^) 17:48 waressearcher2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgqsYVtyPWA the description of that video is interteining: "Here is my first Minecraft related video. It is called Minetest and Minetest is a free version of Minecraft.", again "Minetest is a free version of Minecraft" just think of it 17:49 Calinou it is indeed a free implementation of Minecraft :) /semi-sarcasm 17:49 Calinou but not a version 17:49 waressearcher2 notch was so kind to release free version of Minecraft 17:51 waressearcher2 or from other video: "This is me playing Minetest. Minetest is a free clone of Minecraft." and another: "Hey every one welcome to a series of Minetest fun! Minetest is a free alternative to Minecraft and still as fun as ever.", you can say mostly people got it right 17:52 waressearcher2 but still they all say its "something" of Minecraft, and not like "another voxel based game" 17:52 Krock But only a few use the correct description of Minetest 17:53 waressearcher2 its like from "Jay and Silent bob" moment when actor from american pie complains that every one thinks of hims as "pie-f**er" 17:54 waressearcher2 no you are not another game you are minecraft clone,alternative,version 17:57 VanessaE wrong. 17:58 VanessaE Minetest is a game of its own, not a clone. 18:00 exio4 well, it is 3d 18:00 exio4 i think it is a clone of quake 18:01 everamzah mm..quake 18:07 Teckla What about DOOM? And Castle Wolfenstein? :) 18:15 Calinou Minetest is a CPMA clone!! 18:17 kahrl there is collision detection, so it's a Tennis For Two clone 18:18 Calinou Teckla, if Minetest was a clone of Doom then you'd constantly be in fast mode :3 18:25 * Teckla chuckles 19:13 CWz VanessaE: wow the ddos is bad on inchra 19:13 ElectronLibre CWz, are you sure it's a ddos? 19:14 CWz VanessaE: said it's a ddos 19:15 nanepiwo so thats whats wrong... 19:15 ElectronLibre It's maybe related in a way but MinetestForFun's servers were apparently being ddos-ed just before it started. 19:15 ElectronLibre They're still down at the moment. 19:16 CWz It's probbaly some minecrafter scriptkiddy 19:16 ElectronLibre It's probably the same one who did it multiple times the past few weeks then. 19:17 CWz who? 19:17 ElectronLibre We don't know. 19:17 CWz if he's using the ion cannon bot thing then it's possbile to track down who it is i thinl 19:17 ElectronLibre But the past 2 weeks MinetestForFun's servers have been attacked multiple times, always DDOSes. 19:18 ElectronLibre You should maybe ask him for informations, when he's there. 19:21 CWz [off] inchra seems to be down 19:21 ElectronLibre [off] amun is fine 19:22 ElectronLibre Oh wow, it splitted. 19:26 CWz i wonder if VanessaE is ok 19:26 ElectronLibre She probably is trying to fix the problem, and restart/reconnect the server. 19:26 CWz She needs ddos protection 19:35 OldCoder Ah 19:35 OldCoder New Inchra is down 19:38 ElectronLibre Part of it, yes. 19:42 CWz the important part is down 20:02 VanessaE the whole server has been null-routed. 20:02 VanessaE I sent the unblock request, now I have to wait for my host to get on the stick. 20:11 CWz what is null routed 20:11 CWz VanessaE? 20:12 CWz [off] i wonder if VanessaE was target because of mt4fun server attacking think inchra is mt4fun owned 20:16 VanessaE null-routed basically means they unplugged the cable.