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IRC log for #minetest, 2015-09-11

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05:24 eye_mine hello everyone,i 'm first use irc.i have a question about mod:  i want store some data to the player object ,then read document,don't find playersao's explain.how to ?object can store some data like node's meta? .
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05:28 OldCoder Hi
05:28 OldCoder eye_mine, reading
05:28 OldCoder eye_mine, are you using translator? we cannot fully understand
05:29 OldCoder eye_mine, you can store player data to a text file in the world
05:29 OldCoder eye_mine, I must rest soon but I can explain this next week
05:31 swift110-phone I like minetest
05:31 swift110-phone Especially on my pc
05:32 eye_mine I want store some text to the player object like node meta for after use. I'm speaker english is hard.
05:34 eye_mine like use: meta:set_string("message", "Hello!")
05:35 eye_mine but player not is a node,can not store meta data.i think how to store my data to the object 'player'?
05:36 RealBadAngel theres a way
05:37 RealBadAngel you can add to the player an inventory
05:37 RealBadAngel and in it you can put an item with meta
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05:38 RealBadAngel later on you can just get the inv, get item, read/write its meta
05:39 RealBadAngel whatever changes you will make to it, they will be permament, because item will be saved together with player data
05:42 eye_mine good idea,thx
05:50 swift110-phone How long have u been playing minetest
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06:15 eye_mine I'm playing minetest over half month.
06:16 eye_mine and write two test mod.
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06:23 swift110-phone Cool
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09:12 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy No News is Good News Day! 😃
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10:39 D3ADINC HELLO
10:39 D3ADINC IM LOOKING FOR ILUVPEEPS7
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11:33 nrzkt HELLO, PLEASE SHUTDOWN YOUR CAPSLOCK
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12:38 luiz_ hi
12:38 Guest99775 how can I to run minetes with low memory? (512MB)
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12:40 luizsabino hi! how can I to run minetes with low memory (512MB)?
12:41 luizsabino ??
12:41 sfan5 did you test whether it works?
12:43 luizsabino I have a pc with 512mb. Can I run Minetest?
12:44 STHGOM try it!
12:45 eye_mine linux?
12:45 luizsabino yes, based in ubuntu
12:46 STHGOM lubuntu?
12:46 luizsabino in trust, it work, but with few leg
12:47 luizsabino no lubuntu, a brasilian derivated distribution of ubuntu (Linux Educacional - for schools)
12:49 luizsabino some idea?
12:49 sfan5 just try it
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12:51 waressearcher2 there is no main menu music right ? and there are debates whether minetest needs it, as a suggestion, how about that one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5jp5o367o ?
12:51 sfan5 !title
12:51 MinetestBot sfan5: SuperTuxKart OST - 03. Jahzzar - Origin [Scotland] - YouTube
12:55 RealBadAngel waressearcher2, the code to play main menu music is here
12:55 RealBadAngel you just need to create /music folder and put there main_menu.ogg
12:55 RealBadAngel some forks do have music
12:56 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjHNPzv9sGY
12:56 RealBadAngel this is piece that authour granted rights for us to use it
13:00 waressearcher2 RealBadAngel: that link you gave, that music more fit for a cyberpunk platformer than minetest
13:01 waressearcher2 or like one of those demo scene music from keygens programs
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13:07 waressearcher2 by the way I'm watching that let's play of minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGW0XEMoAk with mods, found someone how actually plays minetest without just "testing" it before returning to minecraft, like many videos there are, could be good idea to have in topic so people will not search for let's plays too long
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13:08 Calinou no, topic is long enough already
13:08 Calinou it doesn't fit on my 1920x1080 screen already
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13:20 Hirato Calinou: fits fine on mine :3
13:20 Hirato it's also on two lines :3
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13:21 asie something that might interest you: BuildCraft is working on a relicense project to move to the Mozilla Public License v2
13:22 Calinou great, the poorest license ever!
13:22 Calinou some people are too high for MIT :)
13:22 asie Calinou: yes
13:22 asie one of our major contributors said copyleft is a must
13:22 asie he owns ~1/3 of the code, too
13:22 Calinou then pick LGPL or GPL, not the shoddy MPL
13:22 asie he also said the LGPL and GPL suck too
13:22 asie because too much lawyerspeak
13:22 Calinou MPL is way more lawyerspeak to be frank
13:22 asie besides, the MPLv2 is automatically dual-licensed as GPL and LGPL
13:22 Calinou it's very long for what it actually does
13:22 Hirato lol
13:22 asie GPLv2+ and LGPLv3+ to be exact
13:23 Calinou well, authors can opt-out from GPL compatibility
13:23 Calinou it's very rare but does happen
13:23 asie you might be confusing it with th eMPLv1.1
13:23 asie which sucked
13:23 asie badly
13:23 asie and is what Mozilla and everyone else actually uses
13:23 Calinou either way, it's always a move forward over proprietary licenses, but I wish they thought about it more
13:24 asie https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/MPL/2.0/
13:24 asie BC is not propiertary though
13:24 asie it has a custom license
13:24 asie which is absolutely terrible
13:24 Hirato GPL has been proven to work, so 'lawyerspeak' strikes me as a poor reason
13:24 asie Hirato: the GPL doesn't work with Minecraft anyway, though
13:24 asie the LGPL does but that he said was too long
13:25 Calinou doesn't the BC license require you to own a legal copy of Minecraft?
13:25 asie yup
13:25 asie it also is incompatible with Java classes
13:25 Calinou then it's proprietary :)
13:26 asie in other words, everyone using BC right now is doing it illegally
13:26 asie so it was paramount to pick the least sucky license i could get everyone to agree to
13:27 asie if you know a different one that'd be nice, however i'm afraid that now is too late
13:27 asie when i got 80/110 people to agree
13:27 asie i'm not chasing them again
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13:28 asie the MPLv2 was the best license out of "any open source license that's not the MIT, the LGPL or the GPL"
13:29 asie it's also more liberal than the *GPL but less liberal than the MIT
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13:36 asie Calinou: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10rxhAQE​RV07z-S1baBn83h16255Iyyx9HYcwgiQ645o/edit#gid=0 this is exactly how much work it was
13:37 asie still a better compromise than Plan 9.
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13:41 asie still, this finally means BC code could be used for other projects
13:41 asie like the once-in-a-while BC clone idea for various games
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15:11 zat is BC any good?
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15:27 everamzah what does it mean when max_lag starts at dedicated_server_step and then continues climbing without coming back down until i restart the server?
15:27 everamzah is it because mods are filling data and not getting rid of it?
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15:46 everamzah i just found this great line from PA: http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-03-10#i_3613006
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15:49 Calinou everamzah, no, max_lag is supposed to be the highest lag value ever recorded on your server
15:49 Calinou it's of little use to display it, to be frank, it doesn't mean much
15:49 Calinou zat, it has a proprietary dependency, Minecraft :)
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15:52 everamzah thx very much Calinou
16:07 zat Calinou: LOL ¬¬
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16:12 asie well
16:12 asie the textures will hopefully become CC BY-SA 4.0
16:12 asie the current block and item ones almost are already as they were redrawn and now only have one owner
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16:16 Calinou cool
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16:59 waressearcher2 why are you talking about BuildCraft, what is it, is it minetest related ?
16:59 Calinou it's a Minecraft mod
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17:00 RealBadAngel waressearcher2, you can make in mt mods similiar to mc
17:00 RealBadAngel its only up to u
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19:41 waressearcher2 I noticed when you choose some stuff in inventory like some tool or farming wheat seed it appears in your hand, or rather instead of your hand, right away, and it looks like to picture from the inventory were just added 3rd dimension, so there is no actual 3d premade models for all that stuff that you can take into your hands its the engine just
19:41 waressearcher2 takes all those pictures, like farming_wheat_seed.png and "pixelate" them into 3d looking ? is that how it works ?
19:42 red1 yes
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20:16 red1 #678
20:18 waressearcher2 #678
20:19 exoplanet is this a bug: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments​/3kkstg/my_hand_texture_looks_wierd_help/
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20:21 rubenwardy yes, and it's known about.
20:23 exoplanet do you have a link to the issue
20:23 exoplanet ?
20:24 rubenwardy !g minetest wielditem glitch
20:24 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=18&t=11227
20:24 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&t=10862
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20:25 exoplanet But it was closed. Or is this another issue that just looks similar? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2902
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22:46 blert2112 "FATAL_ERROR_IF" not declared in this scope... but I see debug.h included just above. What am I not seeing?
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23:24 blert2112 building latest I get "‘FATAL_ERROR_IF’ was not declared in this scope
23:24 blert2112 " but debug.h is included. Any clues for me please?
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23:28 DynamicMetaFlow Hello everyone
23:29 DynamicMetaFlow Does anyone have any resources for using minetest for education? I'm trying to use it for an afterschool program
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23:33 twoelk what sort of education?
23:34 twoelk there are at least two extensive threads on the subject
23:37 DynamicMetaFlow One idea is urban planning, recreating existing neighborhood in minetest to then 3d print it
23:37 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Learning <- some mods with letter blocks
23:37 DynamicMetaFlow Creating the world would lead to discussions of importance of institutions in the area what could be improved etc
23:39 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=12680 <- map about reconstructing some roman baths
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23:40 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=12799 map about reconstructing Angkor Wat
23:40 DynamicMetaFlow thanks for the help twoelk the roman baths looks very interesting
23:41 twoelk join the Isarnho server to see more buildings ;-)
23:42 twoelk I just started it again for testing some scripts
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23:45 DynamicMetaFlow Some reason webased irc wasn't loading convo
23:46 DynamicMetaFlow twoelk what is the info to connect to the server?
23:49 twoelk "Isarnho" is usually at the bottom of the list as I only run it now and then for a short time
23:51 twoelk !up 84.181.198.214 30000
23:51 MinetestBot 84.181.198.214:30000 seems to be down
23:51 twoelk ?
23:52 DynamicMetaFlow tried to connect
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23:53 twoelk !up 84.181.202.187 30000
23:53 MinetestBot 84.181.202.187:30000 is up (60ms)
23:54 twoelk weird
23:54 twoelk someone with an invalid name tried to connect :-P
23:54 DynamicMetaFlow lol
23:55 twoelk ah empty password
23:57 DynamicMetaFlow well trying to connect
23:57 DynamicMetaFlow stuck at media
23:57 DynamicMetaFlow lol
23:58 twoelk yeah, I have some pictures in a little gallery. Still need to sort out the license though
23:59 DynamicMetaFlow it looks great from the thread
23:59 DynamicMetaFlow I'm hoping I can engage students in trying to change their community and understand the importance of it
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