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How do i move my building from the server to single player in minetest? |
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cimbakahn, what server? you can add: "enable_local_map_saving = true" if your minetest.conf to save a map in your worlds folder |
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STHGOM |
i guess the server dosnt matter :P |
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cimbakahn |
Thank you STHGOM! |
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STHGOM |
you're welcome ^^ |
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stormchaser3000 |
i think i found a spam post |
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stormchaser3000 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13198 |
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stormchaser3000 |
oh wait |
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stormchaser3000 |
nvm |
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stormchaser3000 |
that is in offtpoic |
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swift110-phone |
Hello all |
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minetest |
sup nigger |
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swift110-phone |
Thank u |
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rubenwardy |
I think that Minetest Engine should be a base for (sub)games, not for modding. The point of a game is to be fun, and yet we force users to download mods and do the work themselves to make it fun. We end up with an Engine and no good, complete games. |
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rubenwardy |
Modding should still be possible, but it should be used to add, eg, area protection and utils rather than gameplay features |
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rubenwardy |
or to extend a subgame without editing the subgame |
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rubenwardy |
the issue is what we do with Minetest Game. |
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rubenwardy |
There should be two core developed subgames. One is minimal and intended to be used to make your own subgame |
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rubenwardy |
the other should be a default Minetest Game which is playable enough already |
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rubenwardy |
The current philosophy is that by making a bare minimum game, players are forced to download mods to make it fun. If we had a complete subgame, players would download new subgames in order to get variety and refresh the fun-ness of Minetest. |
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swift110-phone |
Hmm |
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rubenwardy |
Anyway, what are your opinion(S)? |
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VanessaE |
"market" it as a subgames engine, but don't take away anything about its ability to just do mods |
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VanessaE |
that's predicated on the theory that there are enough good subgames to make that work though |
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rubenwardy |
I'm not talking about taking away mod ability though |
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rubenwardy |
just moving the focus onto games |
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VanessaE |
just making sure. |
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rubenwardy |
is there an easy way to do default:stone -> "minetest.register_alias("default:stone", "default_natural:stone") |
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CWz |
hello VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Wonderful Weirdos Day! 😠|
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rubenwardy |
split default into smaller mods: https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_game/tree/split |
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rubenwardy |
WIP |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hi! is there any fork of carts mod that work with 0.4.13? |
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est31 |
Carts mod doesnt work with 0.4.13?? |
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Megaf |
I think they do, dont they? |
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Out`Of`Control |
est31: it does not, if you try push it, server crashes |
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Out`Of`Control |
i can paste error |
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Megaf |
lets see, Im connecting to my server, will it crash, that is the question |
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Out`Of`Control |
thanks |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: it works fine on my server |
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Megaf |
not problems at all |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: i see, all mods are recent? |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: I use the VanessaE cart mod |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: no |
| 10:11 |
Megaf |
no what? that carts works |
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Megaf |
the other doesnt ;) |
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Out`Of`Control |
i don't use VanessaE cart mod |
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Megaf |
ok, so your carts mod crashes minetest |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf is there a page with all forks? wiki page |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: i try 3 other forks, all crashes, but did not see VanessaE cart mod |
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Megaf |
hold on |
| 10:14 |
Megaf |
I always tend to use Vanessas forks and mods, from experience I learned they are less likely to crash the server |
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Out`Of`Control |
thats nice |
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Out`Of`Control |
i will do same |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: this is the original carts mod I think https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/ |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: i use that one, and it crashes |
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Out`Of`Control |
its same as VanessaE cart mod? |
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Megaf |
last update was in May 7, 2014, it shouldnt cause new crashes |
| 10:15 |
Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: This is the mod I use https://github.com/VanessaE/carts |
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Out`Of`Control |
thanks |
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Megaf |
last update on Nov 30, 2014 |
| 10:16 |
Megaf |
Vanessas mod is a fork from PilzAdams mod |
| 10:16 |
Megaf |
These are the forks of PilzAdams carts mod, https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/network |
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Out`Of`Control |
server crashes again |
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RealBadAngel |
what about crash log? |
| 10:24 |
Out`Of`Control |
RealBadAngel: http://pastebin.com/D3dC67xL |
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Out`Of`Control |
any clue? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf i disable all mods, default + cart mod, server crashes, so i wonder |
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Out`Of`Control |
0.4.13 |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: weird, there might be some configuration issue perhaps |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: Im on the latest git master on my server and I dont have this crash |
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Megaf |
so, gcc 5.2, LuaJIT, JSONCPP and that spatial index things installed from Git, lets see how minetest will behave here now https://paste.debian.net/plain/311041 |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: thanks i run latest mt too, i found same error https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196&start=350 but it was caused by profiler mod. I don't have it |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: it crashes with what subgame? |
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Megaf |
minetest_game, minimal, other? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: i place only minetest_game |
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Out`Of`Control |
no other mods |
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Out`Of`Control |
i can try with minimal |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_ do you use minetest_game ? |
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Out`Of`Control |
i compile it as you did, same error |
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swift110-phone |
Moring |
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Out`Of`Control |
morning |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: mostly minetest_game yes, with some mods of it disabled, like tnt, bones, fire and screwdriver |
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Out`Of`Control |
nice i try that |
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Out`Of`Control |
ok that did not help |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: what if you try with a new world? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_: i give up, i did it with new world, same |
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Out`Of`Control |
new world and minimal |
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Megaf_ |
hold on, I have a brand new minetest here, from git, let me put carts in it |
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Out`Of`Control |
so i am sure its mt itself |
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Out`Of`Control |
minimal + cart mod, i place cart hit it, and server crashes |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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STHGOM |
and nights |
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Megaf_ |
and days |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_ let me know if it works |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: I cant make it crash |
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Megaf_ |
what OS are you using? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_: i have same error on debian unstable and testing |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_ from where you download minetest? |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: does it happens in single player too? |
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Out`Of`Control |
i did not try single player |
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Out`Of`Control |
not testing but stable |
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Megaf_ |
oh, I tried single player |
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Megaf_ |
compiling the server now |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: the server works for me with Debian 7, client I tested on Debian 8 and testing |
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Out`Of`Control |
7 is a bit old? |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: Where is your irrlicht from? And you could paste the error and share it with us |
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Out`Of`Control |
i did sec |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: Debian 6 still in use and it pretty stable |
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Out`Of`Control |
http://pastebin.com/D3dC67xL |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: you get the very same error with PilzAdam carts and VanessaE carts? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_: yeah, |
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Megaf_ |
VanessaE: Are you there? Out`Of`Control have some interesting bug |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: weird |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_: but as i see there are no difference between VanessaE and PilzAdam |
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Megaf_ |
Name is different :P |
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Megaf_ |
I mean, author name |
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Out`Of`Control |
i mean no changes in code |
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Out`Of`Control |
or i don't see it hehe |
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Megaf_ |
I know, I;m just kidding, there is one little different |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi all :) |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
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luizrpgluiz: carts mod work for you? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_: as i see there are no changes in carts or in mod_profiling.lua. so i don't get it what cause it as in 4.10 server it works fine |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: maybe open a topic in minetest bugs forum or/and minetest github, give as much detail as possible, irrlicht version, cmake flags, debian and kernel version |
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Megaf_ |
Out`Of`Control: I jusr tested with minetestserver runnign minimal, works fine |
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Megaf_ |
d by name (implies local game) |
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Megaf_ |
reglnx ToshSam:/run/shm/minetest$ bin/minetestserver --version |
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Megaf_ |
Minetest 0.4.13-Test0-183d0d5 |
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Megaf_ |
Build info: VER=0.4.13-Test0-183d0d5 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR="." |
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nrzkt |
bahaha |
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nrzkt |
bahaha |
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Out`Of`Control |
wb Megaf_ |
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Megaf_ |
I pasted too much :P wasnt itended, sorry |
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Megaf_ |
nrzkt: lol, you are there, you have batter changes for helping about that than me |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: ping |
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Megaf_ |
Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/issues/22 |
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Megaf_ |
well, nevermind |
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Megaf_ |
people no longer cares on minimal when they create new mods |
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Megaf_ |
as they should... |
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Megaf_ |
(they should care) |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf_ i am sure its not kernel or my system, as 4.10-dev server works fine with carts mod |
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nm0i |
Hi. Is there way to change node placing distance?.. |
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Calinou |
nm0i, yes, edit the "range" property of the hand (mods/default/tools.lua) |
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nm0i |
Oh.. Thanks |
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Calinou |
don't put it above 12 |
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Calinou |
it'll be slow and won't work reliably |
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Calinou |
http://www.piskelapp.com/ |
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Glorfindel |
hi |
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Glorfindel |
I'm trying to run minetestserver in ubuntu server 15.04 and it complains that port 3000 isn't open |
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Glorfindel |
and then seems to quit |
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Glorfindel |
how do I fix it? |
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rubenwardy |
what exactly does it say? |
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rubenwardy |
does it say "port isn't open" |
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rubenwardy |
or does it say it's in use |
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Teckla |
Glorfindel: 3000? Or 30000? |
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Glorfindel |
rubenwardy: port isn't open |
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Glorfindel |
Teckla: yeah, which ever is the default port, I didn't change it |
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rubenwardy |
is this a remote server? |
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rubenwardy |
ie: dedi or vps |
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Glorfindel |
no, this is on my laptop |
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rubenwardy |
you have attempted to open the port, though? |
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rubenwardy |
there are two places a port can be closed: in the computer or in the router |
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rubenwardy |
I don't think Ubuntu comes with a firewall which blocks ports by default |
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rubenwardy |
You'll need to google port forwaring for your router model |
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Glorfindel |
yeah, I searched on opening ports in ubuntu |
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Glorfindel |
oh, so I can't just host it on my local network? |
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rubenwardy |
if you are hosting it on your local network, don't set server_announce = true |
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Glorfindel |
ok, thanks :D |
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