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00:02 cimbakahn How do i move my building from the server to single player in minetest?
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00:11 STHGOM cimbakahn, what server? you can add: "enable_local_map_saving = true" if your minetest.conf to save a map in your worlds folder
00:11 STHGOM i guess the server dosnt matter :P
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00:31 cimbakahn Thank you STHGOM!
00:32 STHGOM you're welcome ^^
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02:23 stormchaser3000 i think i found a spam post
02:23 stormchaser3000 https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=17&t=13198
02:23 stormchaser3000 oh wait
02:23 stormchaser3000 nvm
02:23 stormchaser3000 that is in offtpoic
02:25 swift110-phone Hello all
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05:35 minetest sup nigger
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06:09 swift110-phone Thank u
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07:11 rubenwardy I think that Minetest Engine should be a base for (sub)games, not for modding. The point of a game is to be fun, and yet we force users to download mods and do the work themselves to make it fun. We end up with an Engine and no good, complete games.
07:11 rubenwardy Modding should still be possible, but it should be used to add, eg, area protection and utils rather than gameplay features
07:12 rubenwardy or to extend a subgame without editing the subgame
07:13 rubenwardy the issue is what we do with Minetest Game.
07:13 rubenwardy There should be two core developed subgames. One is minimal and intended to be used to make your own subgame
07:14 rubenwardy the other should be a default Minetest Game which is playable enough already
07:15 rubenwardy The current philosophy is that by making a bare minimum game, players are forced to download mods to make it fun. If we had a complete subgame, players would download new subgames in order to get variety and refresh the fun-ness of Minetest.
07:16 swift110-phone Hmm
07:17 rubenwardy Anyway, what are your opinion(S)?
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07:19 VanessaE "market" it as a subgames engine, but don't take away anything about its ability to just do mods
07:20 VanessaE that's predicated on the theory that there are enough good subgames to make that work though
07:20 rubenwardy I'm not talking about taking away mod ability though
07:21 rubenwardy just moving the focus onto games
07:21 VanessaE just making sure.
07:24 rubenwardy is there an easy way to do default:stone -> "minetest.register_alias("default:stone", "default_natural:stone")
07:25 CWz hello VanessaE
07:26 VanessaE hi
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08:30 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Wonderful Weirdos Day! 😝
08:41 rubenwardy split default into smaller mods: https://github.com/rubenwar​dy/minetest_game/tree/split
08:41 rubenwardy WIP
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09:39 Out`Of`Control Hi! is there any fork of carts mod that work with 0.4.13?
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09:58 est31 Carts mod doesnt work with 0.4.13??
10:01 Megaf I think they do, dont they?
10:04 Out`Of`Control est31:  it does not, if you try push it, server crashes
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10:05 Out`Of`Control i can paste error
10:07 Megaf lets see, Im connecting to my server, will it crash, that is the question
10:08 Out`Of`Control thanks
10:09 Megaf Out`Of`Control: it works fine on my server
10:09 Megaf not problems at all
10:09 Megaf !server Megaf
10:09 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
10:10 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  i see, all mods are recent?
10:11 Megaf Out`Of`Control: I use the VanessaE cart mod
10:11 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  no
10:11 Megaf no what? that carts works
10:11 Megaf the other doesnt ;)
10:12 Out`Of`Control i don't use VanessaE cart mod
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10:12 Megaf ok, so your carts mod crashes minetest
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10:12 Out`Of`Control Megaf is there  a page with all forks? wiki page
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10:12 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  i try 3 other forks, all crashes, but did not see VanessaE cart mod
10:13 Megaf hold on
10:14 Megaf I always tend to use Vanessas forks and mods, from experience I learned they are less likely to crash the server
10:14 Out`Of`Control thats nice
10:14 Out`Of`Control i will do same
10:14 Megaf Out`Of`Control: this is the original carts mod I think https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/
10:15 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  i use that one, and it crashes
10:15 Out`Of`Control its same as VanessaE cart mod?
10:15 Megaf last update was in May 7, 2014, it shouldnt cause new crashes
10:15 Megaf Out`Of`Control: This is the mod I use https://github.com/VanessaE/carts
10:15 Out`Of`Control thanks
10:15 Megaf last update on Nov 30, 2014
10:16 Megaf Vanessas mod is a fork from PilzAdams mod
10:16 Megaf These are the forks of PilzAdams carts mod, https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/network
10:22 Out`Of`Control server crashes again
10:23 RealBadAngel what about crash log?
10:24 Out`Of`Control RealBadAngel: http://pastebin.com/D3dC67xL
10:36 Out`Of`Control any clue?
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11:30 Out`Of`Control Megaf i disable all mods, default + cart mod, server crashes, so i wonder
11:31 Out`Of`Control 0.4.13
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12:22 Megaf Out`Of`Control: weird, there might be some configuration issue perhaps
12:23 Megaf Out`Of`Control: Im on the latest git master on my server and I dont have this crash
12:25 Megaf so, gcc 5.2, LuaJIT, JSONCPP and that spatial index things installed from Git, lets see how minetest will behave here now https://paste.debian.net/plain/311041
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13:01 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  thanks i run latest mt too, i found same error https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=15&t=9196&start=350 but it was caused by profiler mod. I don't have it
13:02 Megaf Out`Of`Control: it crashes with what subgame?
13:02 Megaf minetest_game, minimal, other?
13:02 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  i place only minetest_game
13:02 Out`Of`Control no other mods
13:02 Out`Of`Control i can try with minimal
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13:24 Out`Of`Control Megaf_ do you use minetest_game ?
13:25 Out`Of`Control i compile it as you did, same error
13:25 swift110-phone Moring
13:26 Out`Of`Control morning
13:27 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control:  mostly minetest_game yes, with some mods of it disabled, like tnt, bones, fire and screwdriver
13:27 Out`Of`Control nice i try that
13:28 Out`Of`Control ok that did not help
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13:54 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: what if you try with a new world?
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14:04 Out`Of`Control Megaf_:  i give up, i did it with new world, same
14:04 Out`Of`Control new world and minimal
14:04 Megaf_ hold on, I have a brand new minetest here, from git, let me put carts in it
14:04 Out`Of`Control so i am sure its mt itself
14:05 Out`Of`Control minimal + cart mod, i place cart hit it, and server crashes
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14:05 kaeza mornings
14:06 STHGOM and nights
14:07 Megaf_ and days
14:11 Out`Of`Control Megaf_ let me know if it works
14:14 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: I cant make it crash
14:14 Megaf_ what OS are you using?
14:14 Out`Of`Control Megaf_:  i have same error on debian unstable and testing
14:14 Out`Of`Control Megaf_ from where you download minetest?
14:14 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: does it happens in single player too?
14:15 Out`Of`Control i did not try single player
14:15 Out`Of`Control not testing but stable
14:15 Megaf_ oh, I tried single player
14:15 Megaf_ compiling the server now
14:16 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: the server works for me with Debian 7, client I tested on Debian 8 and testing
14:17 Out`Of`Control 7 is a bit old?
14:17 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: Where is your irrlicht from? And you could paste the error and share it with us
14:17 Out`Of`Control i did sec
14:17 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control:  Debian 6 still in use and it pretty stable
14:17 Out`Of`Control http://pastebin.com/D3dC67xL
14:19 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: you get the very same error with PilzAdam carts and VanessaE carts?
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14:20 Out`Of`Control Megaf_:  yeah,
14:20 Megaf_ VanessaE: Are you there? Out`Of`Control have some interesting bug
14:20 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: weird
14:21 Out`Of`Control Megaf_:  but as i see there are no difference between VanessaE and PilzAdam
14:21 Megaf_ Name is different :P
14:21 Megaf_ I mean, author name
14:21 Out`Of`Control i mean no changes in code
14:21 Out`Of`Control or i don't see it hehe
14:21 Megaf_ I know, I;m just kidding, there is one little different
14:22 luizrpgluiz hi all :)
14:22 Out`Of`Control hi
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14:22 Megaf_ luizrpgluiz: carts mod work for you?
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14:24 Out`Of`Control Megaf_:  as i see there are no changes in carts or in mod_profiling.lua.  so i don't get it what cause it as in 4.10 server it works fine
14:27 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control: maybe open a topic in minetest bugs forum or/and minetest github, give as much detail as possible, irrlicht version, cmake flags, debian and kernel version
14:28 Megaf_ Out`Of`Control:  I jusr tested with minetestserver runnign minimal, works fine
14:28 Megaf_ d by name (implies local game)
14:28 Megaf_ reglnx@ToshSam:/run/shm/minetest$ bin/minetestserver --version
14:28 Megaf_ Minetest 0.4.13-Test0-183d0d5
14:28 Megaf_ Build info: VER=0.4.13-Test0-183d0d5 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR="."
14:28 Megaf_ was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
14:29 nrzkt bahaha
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14:29 nrzkt bahaha
14:29 Out`Of`Control wb Megaf_
14:29 Megaf_ I pasted too much :P wasnt itended, sorry
14:30 Megaf_ nrzkt: lol, you are there, you have batter changes for helping about that than me
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14:45 Megaf_ Calinou: ping
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14:48 Megaf_ Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/issues/22
14:51 Megaf_ well, nevermind
14:51 Megaf_ people no longer cares on minimal when they create new mods
14:51 Megaf_ as they should...
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16:12 Out`Of`Control Megaf_ i am sure its not kernel or my system, as 4.10-dev server works fine with carts mod
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16:45 nm0i Hi. Is there way to change node placing distance?..
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16:58 Calinou nm0i, yes, edit the "range" property of the hand (mods/default/tools.lua)
17:00 nm0i Oh.. Thanks
17:00 Calinou don't put it above 12
17:00 Calinou it'll be slow and won't work reliably
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17:46 Calinou http://www.piskelapp.com/
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18:35 Glorfindel hi
18:36 Glorfindel I'm trying to run minetestserver in ubuntu server 15.04 and it complains that port 3000 isn't open
18:36 Glorfindel and then seems to quit
18:37 Glorfindel how do I fix it?
18:38 rubenwardy what exactly does it say?
18:38 rubenwardy does it say "port isn't open"
18:38 rubenwardy or does it say it's in use
18:39 Teckla Glorfindel: 3000?  Or 30000?
18:40 Glorfindel rubenwardy: port isn't open
18:40 Glorfindel Teckla: yeah, which ever is the default port, I didn't change it
18:40 rubenwardy is this a remote server?
18:40 rubenwardy ie: dedi or vps
18:41 Glorfindel no, this is on my laptop
18:42 rubenwardy you have attempted to open the port, though?
18:43 rubenwardy there are two places a port can be closed: in the computer or in the router
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18:43 rubenwardy I don't think Ubuntu comes with a firewall which blocks ports by default
18:43 rubenwardy You'll need to google port forwaring for your router model
18:43 Glorfindel yeah, I searched on opening ports in ubuntu
18:44 Glorfindel oh, so I can't just host it on my local network?
18:44 rubenwardy if you are hosting it on your local network, don't set server_announce = true
18:49 Glorfindel ok, thanks :D
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