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01:22 lucas__ hi
01:31 cimbakahn I am confused.  I keep getting this error message twice in a row: Could not load image 'default_grass_footsteps.png' while building texture
01:31 cimbakahn Creating a dummy image for 'default_grass_footsteps.png'
01:31 cimbakahn I used catfish file search to see if it was on my computer.  I typed default_grass_footsteps.png and the results read that it is at /usr/share/minetest/games/mi​nimal/mods/default/textures  I even went to the file manually, and it is there.
01:31 cimbakahn It seems to me that minetest doesn't see that file, but it is there.  Could it be that the file is in the wrong location?  Or is a minetest file in need of editing?
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01:33 cimbakahn This is in my single player world.
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01:38 paramat minimal is a separate subgame. maybe you have a mod or subgame looking fir that texture? in mtgame 0.4.13 that node uses default_grass with an overlay texture default_footprint
01:39 paramat (for)
01:39 paramat so your mod/subgame needs it's tiles definition updating
01:41 cimbakahn Here is a screenshot of my mods ----> http://imgur.com/iNsqDwE
01:43 paramat not sure, search through the mod's node definitions, contact the author, and update the 'tiles' definition of 'grass with footsteps' to that in mtgame 0.4.13
01:43 cimbakahn paramat.  How do i do that?
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01:44 cimbakahn ok.
01:45 paramat open the mod files in a text editor, edit and save. node definitions are usually in a file called 'nodes.lua'
01:46 paramat replace the definition with this (line 286) https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game​/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L286
01:50 cimbakahn ok.
01:50 cimbakahn Still looking.
01:57 paramat a mod may have it's own version of a 'grass with footsteps' node, so it's best to just replace the 'tiles = ' lines
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02:08 cimbakahn Could it be called "default:dirt_with_grass_footsteps"  ?
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02:50 cimbakahn Are you sure i don't have to just rename default_grass_footsteps.png to dirt_with_grass_footsteps.png ?
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03:00 swift110-phone Hey all
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03:31 cimbakahn Thank you paramat!  I believe i have figured it out and the errors are gone.
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03:48 midnight does anyone now how to install mods
03:50 midnight i've never played minetest on linux
03:57 midnight before
04:10 RealBadAngel put unzipped mods in your /mods
04:11 RealBadAngel then enable them ingame
04:12 swift110-phone Hmm
04:12 swift110-phone Do u need the internet to really play the game?
04:15 freelikegnu nope
04:16 swift110-phone Ok
04:16 swift110-phone Ill play it some tonight
04:16 swift110-phone Anyone play it on Windows
04:20 midnight were is /mods
04:21 DusXMT midnight: Depends on how you installed it, for a global installation, ~/.minetest/mods
04:22 DusXMT (where ~ is your home directory)
04:26 swift110-phone What specs do I need for the game?
04:29 midnight could i send a screen shot
04:30 swift110-phone Sure
04:36 midnight i found /.minetest but there is no mod folder
04:43 RealBadAngel then make that folder
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04:45 chainsaw20 swift110-phone: I've played minetest on a four year old non-gaming desktop with integrated graphics, and it was playable :D, so not many.
04:46 swift110-phone Cool thanks chainsaw
04:46 chainsaw20 np
04:46 swift110-phone Ill try it on a core2duo
04:47 chainsaw20 If you press F5 while in-game, it will give you the FPS counter (You have to press it twice to turn it off, it's a 3-mode toggle, if you will
04:47 chainsaw20 )
04:49 swift110-phone Ok
04:49 swift110-phone Ive played before but all i did was walk around
04:50 swift110-phone Jump
04:50 swift110-phone I went to the top of the mountain and had no idea what to do next
04:52 chainsaw10 Sorry to send you this link again (IIRC I sent it to you a while ago?), but I'd suggest going thru this article here: http://wiki.minetest.net/Ho​w_to_build_your_first_house . It'll show you how crafting works.
04:53 chainsaw10 After that, I like to think of it as legos, you just build stuff.
04:54 chainsaw10 Anyway, good luck/have fun. I have to get up in 6 hrs, so I'm going /away :)
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05:00 swift110-phone Ok goodnight
05:00 gau_veldt anyone here familiar with the rendering code in minecraft/minetest et al?  specifically the algorithm used to determine what blocks in a chunk are to be triangulated to the GPU
05:01 gau_veldt a description or suitably annotated source would work as well (or at least what files to look for in minetest's code)
05:03 gau_veldt does it do something like raycast every screen pixel to find out the nearest non-air block surface?
05:04 gau_veldt then add triangles to a todo list in non-duplicating fashion?
05:05 gau_veldt and does such an algorithm go every frame or does it cache in some way (which I see failing any time the camera moves or rotates which is rather often)
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08:33 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Physical Therapy Day! 😃
08:36 waressearcher2 isn't today a labour day ?
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08:44 * JamesTait labours every day.
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09:25 rubenwardyy spam: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=190361#p190361
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09:58 waressearcher2 are there any statistic how many people actively developed minetest and how much lines of code added per month and all that kind of statistics ?
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10:48 gorilla Hi I recently joined VanessaE's server and was wondering whhere I can find papyrus?
11:20 RealBadAngel waressearcher2, such stats are aviable on github i think
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11:51 gorilla why do people remove the trunks of trees but leave the top block? Of course then the leaves stay... so ugly.
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12:02 gorilla JamesTait: I prefer Rum and Raison chocolate but thanks all the same
12:02 waressearcher2 does anyone notice if there is really big and really dip sea sometimes the land under water is just simply cubical is it because algorithm don't know how to generate deepness properly ?
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12:06 waressearcher2 by the way are there sequoias or any mod with really tall, like 100-200 blocks trees ?
12:06 waressearcher2 and say 5-10 wide
12:06 waressearcher2 because such trees do exist in real life
12:07 gorilla waressearcher2: yes, try moretrees
12:12 waressearcher2 what is the number of downloads for android version ? is it popular at all ?
12:15 nrzkt current installations is stable: 3k
12:16 nrzkt app has been installed 37k
12:16 nrzkt times
12:17 nrzkt only 55% of our users have updated their version
12:17 nrzkt 60% :)
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12:53 waressearcher2 nrzkt: what about rating ? is it in stars or something ?
12:56 nrzkt 3.7
12:56 nrzkt but the ranking is ... stupid :p
12:56 nrzkt there is many 5 many 3 and many 1
12:56 gorilla hehe.. andiord apps? :-D /me laughs
12:59 rubenwardy my server is dying :(
13:00 rubenwardy !server capture the flag
13:00 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (quick matches) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 21/25, 10/24 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms
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13:49 swift110-phone Hmm
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14:40 Sokomine hm, is the forum down?
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14:44 kaeza was gonna ask the same
14:44 rubenwardy not loading for me
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14:46 kaeza down up up left right left right?
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14:53 rubenwardy Server mod stats: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/ulNwcGL.png
14:54 nm0i Assuming i want to write own mod, where i could get needed documentation?
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14:59 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ is an introduction guide
14:59 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.com/minete​st_modding_book/lua_api.html documents the whole API
14:59 rubenwardy http://dev.minetest.net/ may contain more information on the API.
15:00 jojoa1997 can anyone else access forum.minetest.net
15:00 rubenwardy no, it's down
15:00 rubenwardy <celeron55> what the fuck happened to my server
15:00 rubenwardy <celeron55> ...what on earth could have taken it down like this
15:02 nm0i rubenwardy: thank you!
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15:06 rubenwardyy nm0i, you're welcome
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15:14 Thomas-S hi
15:21 STHGOM hello
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15:28 Sokomine seems the forum is up again
15:35 STHGOM you're grammar is bad
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15:35 waressearcher2 so celeron55 is happen to be here sometimes ?
15:38 Sokomine whose, sthgom?
15:38 STHGOM your's
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16:11 rubenwardyy Sokomine, I think STHGOM is trying to be funny
16:11 Calinou hi rubenwardyy
16:12 rubenwardy How's it going, Calinou
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16:13 Calinou fine, finished 2nd day of university
16:13 Calinou we had 2 PHP classes :p
16:13 STHGOM ;)
16:13 * STHGOM is probably failing
16:13 rubenwardy :'(
16:13 rubenwardy I don't go until the 18th
16:14 rubenwardy and the first lesson is the 28th
16:14 Calinou lessons started yesterday
16:14 Calinou some stuff is decent, some is boring
16:14 Calinou it's really easy at start
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16:17 Calinou we learned today: "Hello world", assigning variables, operators on variables (+ | - |
16:17 Calinou * | /)
16:17 Calinou and not much more really :P
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16:35 Krock hi MinetestBot!
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17:00 Sokomine rubenwardy: aah. ok :-)
17:00 Sokomine it's just that - as i'm not a native speaker - i'm glad whenever people tell me (preferably in private) when i made a spelling/grammar/other error
17:01 rubenwardy it was a small one
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17:01 rubenwardy should be "seems that the forum is up again"
17:02 rubenwardy but meh
17:02 Sokomine aah. ok. i'd count that rather as an abbreviation used in chat. like not using capital letters (not even in german where they are far more common)
17:02 Sokomine nothing serious then :-)
17:03 rubenwardy yeah
17:03 * Sokomine is fighting with shelves and shelfs and so on and never manage to get them spelled correctly
17:03 rubenwardy whereas you're -> your, your's -> yours
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17:04 Calinou YOU'RE WINNER!
17:05 * Sokomine runs away from all those strange captial letters calinou is shouting around :-)
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17:39 Testman hi all
17:40 Krock hi there
17:42 Testman how are you doing today?
17:43 Testman is there a way to craft a master crafting guide on the lord of the test game?
17:43 Krock good, thanks.
17:44 Krock craft? would use much time, better get the unified_inventory or zeg's crafting guide
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17:47 Sokomine Testman: yes, there is. afaik it takes all the other craft books to craft one. craft a book of "forbidden crafts" first
17:47 STHGOM ^
17:47 Testman ok,but it is on the lord of the test game,and so far i have not been able to craft it.
17:48 Testman ok how do i do that?
17:48 Sokomine Krock: the lott game has its own craft book mechanism. they come subdivided into normal crafts, cooking, brewing, potions, protection (armor) and...er...guess that was it
17:48 Sokomine have you crafted all the other books?
17:48 Krock Sokomine, quite unusual when you always work with one, huge dictionary
17:49 Testman i have all of those but the forbiden crafts book
17:49 Testman how do you make that one?
17:49 Sokomine Krock: yes, but it does fit to the game. lott is quite nice...comes with mobs (that even fight against monsters), some spawning structures and some nice nodes
17:50 Testman the server is especaily fun :D
17:51 Sokomine Testman: sourround a book of protection with gold ingots in your crafting grid. like a locked chest...only with gold ingots instead of wood and the book of protection instead of the steel ingot
17:52 Sokomine which one are you using?
17:53 Testman on the server my sisters cant make it
17:53 Testman yet though ill ask them to do it that way.
17:54 Testman Sokomine: "which one are you using" as in what?
17:57 Sokomine which server?
17:57 Sokomine oldcoder is running a fine lott server
17:57 Testman Yes that one!
17:58 Testman the oldcoder server is the server
17:59 Sokomine ah. seems you carry a diffrent name there? or are not online?
18:03 Testman well i havent been on there lately but my name is the same as here(i think)
18:04 STHGOM Testman, make all of the books you see crafts for in each one you make
18:04 Testman ok.
18:05 STHGOM you will need all of them to make a master book, anyway
18:06 Testman ok
18:07 Sokomine ah, ok
18:07 Sokomine when you join again, and havn't seen it, pay a visit to my dwarf city :-)
18:08 Testman yup
18:08 Testman my sister showed me it over her shoulder
18:08 Testman it looks pretty cool!
18:16 Testman Sokomine: are there any dimonds in the mine?
18:22 Testman okay thanks Sokomine ill tell my sisters.
18:22 Testman bye all
18:22 Testman :)
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18:28 STHGOM how would one add a sleep() like command to a mesecon luacontroller
18:28 STHGOM ?
18:31 T4im interrupts: http://mesecons.net/luacontroller/
18:37 STHGOM this looks more like something to repeat
18:37 STHGOM not pause for a moment
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18:39 STHGOM i am using digilines, and i want to make the signal one way by pushing the wire away from the controller then sending it along
18:40 STHGOM so port.a = true (new line) digiline_send (new line) port.a = false
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18:57 T4im STHGOM: it is to repeat "after a period of time"
18:58 T4im so you can use it to simulate a sleep
18:58 T4im its not beautiful, but sufficent
18:58 T4im sufficient*
19:16 MinetestBot [git] RobertZenz -> minetest/minetest: Add more information about how get_node_light works. fe6575b http://git.io/vZOFd (2015-09-08T21:14:56+02:00)
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19:29 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Change m_client_event_queue's type to std::queue 1f1e14a http://git.io/vZOxP (2015-09-08T21:23:09+02:00)
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19:50 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Update leveldb git url 183d0d5 http://git.io/vZ3JD (2015-09-08T21:45:16+02:00)
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20:44 Teckla CraigyDavi: Just wanted to shout out a 'thank you' for running your minetest server.  My daughter *loves* it and the folks there seem real nice.
20:45 CraigyDavi No problem Teckla, glad your daughter likes it :)
20:46 alket Teckla.reverse() = Alcket :p
20:47 est31 Alkcet
20:47 est31 lol
20:48 Teckla alket: ha  :)
20:48 Teckla CraigyDavi: Do you have a web page or anywhere we can read more about your mods, server specs, etc.?
20:49 CraigyDavi I'm going to be making a webpage for that soon™. For now, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7010 contains most info.
20:52 Teckla CraigyDavi: Thanks!
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22:17 swift110 hey guys
22:17 swift110 I got minetest on my windows partition of my laptop
22:18 swift110 how do I connect to the server and play with other people?
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23:26 sofar_ swift110: go to the 'client' tab and enter the server information
23:26 sofar_ swift110: this assumes you want to connect to someone else's server... of course
23:27 swift110 oh ok
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23:27 swift110 is it good to run minetest on a core2duo laptop
23:27 sofar sure, if it runs it runs
23:28 sofar turn down gfx settings if it's not performing well
23:28 sofar lowering desktop resolution may help as well
23:30 swift110 ok
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