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00:00 hmmmm it almost feels like i should expect an embedded youtube video of a man talking about how excellent minetest is that autostarts when i scroll down
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00:45 swift110-phone Hey
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01:03 swift110-phone Hey all
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01:23 swift110-phone Hey phantombeta
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01:27 phantombeta Hello swift110-phone...
01:30 swift110-phone How r u phantombeta
01:31 phantombeta swift110-phone:I'm good...
01:31 phantombeta Kinda busy...
01:31 phantombeta Playing something...
01:31 swift110-phone Ok cool
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09:33 Samson22 Do you think dispensers will be added to Minetest some time?
09:45 Samson22 VanessaE, Do you think dispensers will be added to Minetest some time?
09:45 thatgraemeguy pipeworks has a dispenser
09:45 thatgraemeguy oh, that's what you are talking about
09:45 Samson22 Oh
09:46 Samson22 Hang on, I am just going to look
09:47 Samson22 Sorry
09:47 Samson22 I did not know:\
09:48 thatgraemeguy no worries
09:48 Samson22 Do you think that they could drop like they do in Minecraft?
09:49 thatgraemeguy I'm not familiar with minecraft, sorry
09:49 Samson22 Okay
09:50 thatgraemeguy pipeworks' dispenser works on mesecon signals
09:50 Samson22 Okay:D
09:50 thatgraemeguy so if you put a stack of dirt in it, and send a mesecon signal somehow, button, etc. then it drops 1 dirt item
09:51 Samson22 Okay
09:52 Samson22 i am just thinking about the fire works mod, the dispenser drops it as a block, it does not set it off
09:52 Samson22 I will try and see what I can do about it:D
09:58 Samson22 How do you post screen shots on the forum?
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10:22 Calinou http://www.minetest.net/servers.html
10:22 Calinou is up!
10:23 SylvieLorxu This flag mouseover which sometimes has privs and sometimes not is kinda annoying :/
10:24 Calinou we should have proper Bootstrap tooltips
10:25 SylvieLorxu I must say, the new site doesn't look bad
10:25 SylvieLorxu It seems a lot more organized than the old one
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13:37 Samson22 VanessaE, How does your server work as in how do you put up skins for different players with out u_skins or simple_skins mod?
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14:25 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Make ClientInterface::statenames consistent with the state enum again 2c637ce http://git.io/vGR6y (2015-08-31T13:31:29+02:00)
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14:40 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Credits tab: fix accidental merger of two contributors 714b68a http://git.io/vGRyy (2015-08-31T16:37:02+02:00)
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14:48 Darcidride_ Hi everyone. Please, someone can give me a git link to a Skyblock server repository of something like this ? Im looking for a SkyBlock server version, up to date if possible :), thanks in advance
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14:50 sfan5 Darcidride_: i think the skyblock server uses this one https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock
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15:01 Megaf $ uname -a
15:01 Megaf Linux MacSam 4.1-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Debian 4.1-9 (2015-08-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
15:01 Megaf Now, serious, that's a fantastic kernel
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15:02 Megaf Extremely reponsive, even after running make -j 2 on a dual core CPU, everything still flowing smootly
15:02 Megaf I don't care if my system is 10% slower, it fells 500% faster
15:02 Megaf Things are just instant and with very low latency
15:03 Megaf take a look http://liquorix.net/
15:08 sfan5 tl;dr an realtime kernel with aufs and ureadahead support and debug stuff disabled
15:08 Calinou more power usage = lower battery life :P
15:08 sfan5 nobody cares about that
15:09 Calinou nobody? I think I do
15:09 Calinou also, that kernel is blobbed, we need a libre version of it :)
15:10 sfan5 stop being a stallman
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15:16 Megaf Calinou: I used to care about batery life, but, man, it's so good to use a responsive OS
15:16 Megaf and about libre stuff, well, Im stuck to nouveau, nvidia propriatery driver wont work with EFI
15:17 Calinou well, responsiveness is more impacted by using a SSD rather than specific software
15:17 Calinou get a SSD, get a Core i3 and higher, get 8 GB of RAM, bam, everything's responsive
15:17 Megaf Calinou: I hava a SSD :)
15:18 Megaf and again, I like being able to actually use the computer and watch movies and browser the web while compiling stuff or doing cpu intensive tasks
15:18 Megaf the ZEN/Preemptive kernel allows be to do that
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15:19 Calinou I can do that too :P
15:19 Calinou quad-core CPU with HT
15:19 Calinou even my laptop has such a thing
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15:22 luizrpgluiz hi all :)
15:22 Megaf so you are not stressing your cpu enough :P
15:22 sfan5 Calinou: quad-core with HT?
15:23 Megaf Calinou: by the way, you might be using a preemptive kernel already...
15:23 Megaf sfan5: i7 CPUs
15:23 Megaf Hi luizrpgluiz
15:23 luizrpgluiz Megaf: hi :D
15:24 sfan5 qell
15:24 sfan5 s/q/w/
15:24 sfan5 Calinou said i3 or higher
15:24 sfan5 that usually doesn't mean that you go with an i7
15:24 Megaf i3 is not quad core nor HT
15:24 Megaf :P
15:24 Megaf ;)
15:24 sfan5 i know that
15:24 Megaf Calinou: can you paste a uname -a please?
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15:25 Calinou Linux Hugo-PC 4.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.1.3-1 (2015-08-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
15:25 Megaf Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
15:25 Megaf This is the CPU I'm using here btw
15:25 Calinou Nom de modèle :      Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
15:25 Calinou desktop CPU
15:25 sfan5 >Nom
15:25 Calinou laptop is a i7-2620QM IIRC
15:25 sfan5 nomnomnomnomnomnom
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15:26 Calinou sfan5, well, i3 is enough if you don't compile software often
15:26 Megaf Calinou: I was using the same kenrel as you till one hour ago, and the difference is imense in my case
15:26 TBC_x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 540 @ 1.86GHz
15:26 Calinou it can do everything smoothly
15:26 Calinou it's nearly as fast as an i7 for single-core tasks
15:26 Calinou either way, Liquorix is not becoming the default in any distribution, not even Fedora...
15:26 nanepiwo sounds bad.... Client::handleCommand_ActiveObjectMessages: caught SerializationError: deSerializeString: couldn't read all chars
15:26 Calinou (I'd be surprised if it happened)
15:27 nanepiwo *after digging a giant underground thing with a full inv, so everything drops
15:28 * Megaf just noticed that his laptop will boot faster if the SSD is attached...
15:29 Megaf I wish Debian shipped with preempt kernel as option
15:29 Megaf it used to
15:29 Megaf it used to even have a RT kernel
15:30 Calinou RT severly increases CPU usage and decreases framerate in games
15:32 Megaf Calinou: I know that. But for multimedia stuff is better
15:32 Megaf if every application have time slice guarated
15:33 Megaf once I used Debian to record Audio for a presention, while the video was recorded using a SLR camera
15:33 Megaf total disaster, audio was compeltely out of sync
15:33 Megaf I beliebe that wouldnt happen with a RT kernel
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15:47 Megaf Hi nrzkt, so continuing my question, I think you asked me about my OS, didnt you? Maybe it was someone else
15:48 Megaf I know it was from France and it was a developer
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15:49 nrzkt i was french yes. But i can't remember
15:50 Megaf hm
15:50 Darcidride_ Please, someone can give me a git link/download link to a Skyblock server repository of something like this ? Im looking for a SkyBlock server working version, up to date if possible :), thanks in advance (the forum link isn't the answer i need ^^)
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16:01 Tesseract Long game name, huh? (servers.minetest.net): ../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.​./../../../../var/games/minetest/H2O/version9
16:01 Tesseract I guess we'll have to trim that too.
16:03 Calinou game_name should just be the "h2o" there
16:06 Tesseract Calinou: Yeah, I wonder how game_name got set to that.
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17:17 Telesight Hello all; I got a message on my server: ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found
17:18 Calinou game_time = 532
17:18 Calinou time_of_day = 17877
17:18 Calinou EnvArgsEnd
17:18 Telesight This means that env_meta.txt in a world folder got corrupted. Butwhat could be the reason of this corruption (So i can avoid it)
17:18 Calinou paste this in env_meta.txt inside the world folder, Telesight
17:19 Calinou the corruption is random, and can't really be avoided
17:19 Telesight aaarg ..
17:19 Calinou but when you stop your server, do not press Ctrl+C multiple times, press it only once, even if it is slow
17:20 Telesight Could a electricity breakdown be the reason (a sudden stop of the server)?
17:20 Calinou yes, likely
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17:21 Telesight Well that was the case ... ground discharge of lightning ;-)
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17:22 Milk ...
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17:32 Milk Hey I'm having a problem with the Farming Plus mod by PilzAdam... I have a log? http://pastebin.com/Hn0LVBYk           If one of you guys could help me that would be great... (please?)
17:32 segfault22 anyone have an earlier version of PilzAdam's throwing mod, before the extra stuff was added, but after the performance improvements
17:32 Milk omfg
17:33 segfault22 looks like an attempt to concatenate a nil value
17:33 Milk ...
17:33 segfault22 on line 297
17:33 Milk ........
17:34 segfault22 wtf kind of mod needs 297 plus lines of code? Probably all of those minetest.register_node()/minetest.register_item() function call blocks adding up before that, instead of just registering items from a table and using only one function call
17:35 segfault22 what a lag machine that would be haha
17:35 Milk "Farming Plus mod by PilzAdam" -Milk 2015
17:36 segfault22 It appears to be the dofile function that tries to load strawberries.lua
17:36 Milk k
17:36 segfault22 but that doesnt make sense
17:36 Milk I'm better at fixing java problems so.......
17:36 segfault22 can you pastebin a copy of your version of the init.lua, or try a later release
17:37 Milk okay
17:37 Milk http://pastebin.com/QCDyJDbW
17:38 segfault22 "cocoa.lua" haha thats the product of heating cacao to insane temperatures, he should know that cacao comes from a plant and cocoa does not
17:38 segfault22 do you have a strawberries.lua
17:38 Milk ...
17:38 Milk one sec
17:38 segfault22 y or n
17:38 Milk y
17:39 Milk need me to paste it?
17:39 segfault22 um okay then I don't see what the problem is
17:39 Milk okay
17:39 Milk ....
17:39 segfault22 it should be working
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17:40 segfault22 can you delete/remake your /bin/debug.txt, make the error happen again, then upload that
17:41 Milk i did this i don't know if you need it http://imgur.com/VD0ybJe...
17:41 Milk okay give me a sec
17:42 Milk do you need all of it?
17:42 segfault22 yes the whole debug.txt file, it may have more information or just the same thing, but its atleast worth checking
17:43 segfault22 make sure to delete/remake it first
17:43 Milk btw i got all these warnings because I moved the minetest_game/mods to mods folder XD
17:43 segfault22 so that it doesnt have all the entires from all the times you've loaded minetest
17:43 Milk http://pastebin.com/jSWfqUtQ
17:44 segfault22 Wait you shouldnt move the mods outside minetest_game, it will still try to load the other copy of the mods from the static sharedir
17:44 Milk ...
17:46 segfault22 thats probably why you have all of the conflicts and unsatisfied dependencies,... and it might have something to do with the "attempt to concatenate a nil value" problem
17:46 Milk k
17:47 Milk could that be a problem with the other mods?
17:48 segfault22 maybe; lets see what happens when you try to run the game with the mods left in the /minetest_game/mods/ folder in the static sharedir
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17:49 Milk oh i left them in there
17:49 Milk i just copyed them
17:49 segfault22 yes then you need to remove the copies from your main mods folder
17:50 Milk alrighty then
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17:51 segfault22 why did microsoft remove the window edge borders from everything? They were doing right with that for a little while but now thats all gone to waste
17:51 Calinou it saves screen real estate
17:51 Calinou I'm grateful they did that :)
17:51 Calinou I wish they made task bar more compact by default too
17:52 Milk k done
17:52 segfault22 Actually the borders are still there, they are just replaced with hard edges and extra empty space,... if anything that uses the same "real estate"
17:52 Milk i still have the same error :(
17:53 segfault22 there may be something wrong with your strawberries.lua, or it could be missing... either that or the modname is somehow nil
17:53 Milk should i see if a newer version works
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17:54 segfault22 yes that may help
17:54 Milk mmk
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17:57 Milk i tried the one that was for 0.4.7 stable and got the same problem...
17:57 segfault22 do you have the latest version of minetest
17:57 Milk 4.13
17:58 segfault22 I thought the farmingplus mod was updated for 0.4.13
17:58 Milk ...
17:58 Milk idk
17:58 Milk this is where I'm getting it from https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2787
17:58 segfault22 there is no version 4 yet unless ive been asleep for 10 000 000 000 years or something
17:59 Milk ...
18:00 segfault22 alright try downloading the latest from github github.com/PilzAdam/farming_plus
18:00 Milk mmk
18:01 * segfault22 has to go check mail
18:01 * segfault22 is away from keyboard
18:02 * Milk is testing something
18:03 * Milk 's test worked
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18:07 * segfault22 is back
18:07 segfault22 okay is it working
18:07 Milk no
18:07 segfault22 ...
18:07 Milk ...
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18:07 Milk ....
18:07 segfault22 .......
18:07 segfault22 that doesnt make sense
18:07 Milk ikr
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18:07 Milk i guess
18:07 segfault22 have you contacted pilz
18:08 segfault22 lol he doesnt like being called that
18:08 Milk i would like to
18:09 segfault22 this areas mod is so complex, I cant make it into a factions mod... does anyone have an early version of the basic area protection mod like what server admins used in the early days
18:09 est31 segfault22, perhaps the protector mod family is more something for you?
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18:10 est31 did you have to place a "protector" node which then protected a fixed area around that node?
18:15 segfault22 no I am looking at the areas mod source code on the github repository
18:16 segfault22 and its b.a.r. so the old protection mod will probably be working
18:16 est31 segfault22, making protection mods is very simple
18:17 est31 you will only need to override the minetest.is_protected call
18:17 est31 like the areas mod does it
18:17 segfault22 yes well I only have a moderately primitive understanding of Lua so I have to use code for reference in order to understand what it is doing; manifesting the mod from nothing will be impossible until I can memorize everything
18:18 est31 thats how I began too :)
18:18 segfault22 So I'm looking at the protection mod and will override minetest.is_protected() if possible (or if applicable)
18:18 segfault22 cool
18:18 Milk seg I'm new to this (if you couldn't tell)... uhm, how am i supposed to contact pilzadam
18:19 est31 Milk, for what
18:19 segfault22 wait until he is on the IRC or give him a private message at the forum
18:19 Milk I'm having a problem with his farmingplus mod
18:20 est31 ah, the best place to contact him would be to reply in the according forum topic
18:20 Milk ...okay?
18:20 est31 then other users can report whether they have the problem too
18:20 est31 or if they have it, they dont report twice :)
18:21 Milk so modding discussion right
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18:22 est31 no
18:22 Milk ...
18:23 segfault22 mod releases
18:23 Milk k
18:23 Milk oh
18:23 Milk on his post?
18:23 est31 yes, in his topic
18:23 Milk k
18:24 segfault22 is there a github repository for the old protection mod
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18:26 est31 dunno, perhaps
18:26 segfault22 is the old protection mod even on the forum
18:26 est31 most likely yes
18:26 est31 google "minetest " + mod name
18:26 est31 then you should find it
18:26 est31 if you know the name :)
18:27 segfault22 yes I know how to do that and have already done that, why would I be asking about it if I could just find it that way
18:28 segfault22 found it or something similar
18:29 segfault22 I basically need to use the extents of the current mapchunk (16x16x16 area) as the protection zone, and name it after the faction who owns it
18:30 segfault22 that way the areas arent screwed up sizes and whatnot, and other factions can claim over power-lacking factions' areas without issues with tidyness
18:30 Milk okay i decided not to use farming plus and my game runs now
18:30 Milk but I have a hunger mod installed and I'm not seeing it
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18:35 segfault22 all of these protection mods are beyond any recognition because they have been modified over and over hundreds of times
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18:38 nrzkt Milk, segfault22: use epixel it's native :p
18:38 Milk ?
18:38 segfault22 it looks like 0gb.us lost his hosting
18:39 segfault22 texturepack/server pls-join spam or something like that
18:39 segfault22 Does anyone have a copy og 0gb,us land claim mod
18:39 segfault22 of
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18:41 segfault22 epixel is not what we are talking about or looking for, it is just a subgame or something
18:41 nrzkt no it's another core build :)
18:41 segfault22 I need to find a copy of the land_claim mod from before 0gb.us lost his domain
18:42 segfault22 I am not interested in other game engines right now, I am trying to contribute to minetest
18:42 segfault22 maybe later someday but I doubt it
18:42 nrzkt i know :) it's good, :p
18:42 nrzkt i contribute to it too, often :)
18:42 segfault22 It is insanely offtopic right now, go post on the forum
18:42 nrzkt not atm, engine is not ready yet :p
18:43 segfault22 Now does anyone have an existing copy of 0gb.us land claim mod or nah
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18:44 segfault22 without the "download DIY printable water bottle" and "find the asian woman for you" ad-spam on his domain that got lost and sold to advertisers
18:45 segfault22 I need to not have to deal with that kind of stuff every time I try to find a mod, is there no online repository of mods keeping track of their history even when their websites get taken down
18:46 segfault22 come on this is supposed to be the nuclear age, not the sticks-n-hides age
18:47 segfault22 hello anyone,...
18:47 * segfault22 is sick and tired
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18:50 luizrpgluiz hi all :D
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22:01 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Allow papyrus growing on default:sand 4d9b595 http://git.io/vGztI (2015-08-31T22:58:33+01:00)
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22:17 Megaf Who changed the apples? They look like boxes now
22:17 Megaf Maybe it is just a matter of getting used to it.
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22:24 STHGOM are they nodeboxes instead of plantlike?
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22:25 segfault22 does anyone have that old copy of the basic protection mod or does everyone just use the ones that have been modified hundreds of times over and are now fubar because all of the functions/variables names are shortener'd
22:26 segfault22 or is there a mods repository somewhere that keeps track of every mod's history and changes over time
22:27 segfault22 I don't need people being able to share their faction claims or give them away to other people
22:27 MinetestBot [git] jh10001 -> minetest/minetest: gettext.cpp: Fix syntax error when using MSVC dce9468 http://git.io/vGzG7 (2015-09-01T00:26:11+02:00)
22:29 segfault22 anyone
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22:36 Megaf STHGOM: kinda
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22:52 Megaf Im just enjoying the performance of the Liquorix Kernel on my CPU AMD E1-6010 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics
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23:31 Kdax hi guys
23:31 Kdax i have one question i have two monitors how can i get the game to run on the right one of both?
23:31 Kdax is there a command for the confg?
23:32 Megaf just drag the window there?
23:32 Kdax i will try main prob is that i put in my resolution of the bigger left screen and it will draw over my panel
23:33 Megaf what OS are you using? Kdax
23:33 Kdax im using manjaro linux
23:34 Kdax i put fullscreen = true and the resolution of my biggerscreen
23:34 Megaf hm
23:35 Kdax but the full screen will appear on the smaller monitor and hangs into my left screen
23:35 Megaf if you open it from the monitor you want to run it wont it work?
23:35 Megaf like from the terminal
23:36 Kdax wait
23:37 Jordach Kdax, linux opens applications on the monitor your mouse cursor is
23:37 Jordach setting a screen as primary doesn't fix it
23:40 Kdax i have my right monitor set as the primary http://postimg.org/image/qa9l640cd/ and also in my X confg
23:47 Kdax i also messed up its my right screnn which is bigger and the picture is also hanging in my right screen sry for my bad english
23:50 Kdax if i put in the resolution of my right screen it's also shutting down my other stream at fullscreen mod
23:50 Kdax *left screen sry

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