Time Nick Message 00:05 Sketch2 there doesn't seem to be an input tho 00:05 Sketch2 you don't get the option to put anything into it from your inventory 00:06 Sketch2 and you can't seem to pipe anything with an item-injector 00:35 est31 wow, sethome is a mod of minetest_game? 00:35 est31 didnt know 02:01 wilkgr G'bye all 02:01 wilkgr Going to CoderDojo now :D 05:18 OldCoder *** OldCoder joined the game 05:18 OldCoder hi admin 05:18 OldCoder hi crainer 05:18 OldCoder *** crainer left the game 05:18 OldCoder *** OldCoder left the game 05:18 OldCoder Somebody faked me on my own world just half an hour ago 05:19 OldCoder Just to do that :-) Why in the world go to the effort? 07:38 CWz how high off the ground the structure must be to not cast shadow 08:17 rubenwardy what do you think? https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/2fc9f642a38882caf24c 08:17 rubenwardy !title 08:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy_bounties.md · GitHub 08:40 Krock rubenwardy, amazing idea. But that's just a candy. I doupt this will be a big motivation 08:40 rubenwardy no 08:40 rubenwardy we need sticks too 08:40 Krock ..sticks?? 08:41 rubenwardy you know, carrot and stick? 08:41 rubenwardy !g the carrot and the stick 08:41 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_and_stick 08:41 Krock Ah, the thing with the donkey.. 08:42 rubenwardy It was also thinking about doing a bug award, but it's harder to define those... 08:42 rubenwardy maybe do a competition of the most bugs fixed :P 08:43 rubenwardy also, I want to do a diverse award, where people are rewarded for subgames that go beyond the MC-like 08:43 Krock but then don't mix "fixed" with "eaten", there are many supid competitions all over the world 08:43 rubenwardy s/award/competition/ 08:44 rubenwardy lol 10:06 Donillo what are ways to light up something? 10:06 Donillo only lava? 10:07 est31 I think so, yes 10:07 est31 corium lights up too 10:07 est31 so it depends on the mods you have installed 10:07 Donillo huh, I need safe way 10:07 Donillo I just wanna burn down one tree 10:08 est31 but in minetest_game only lava ignites 10:08 Donillo rubber tree is somewhat hard to get rid of 10:11 est31 in the old days, stuff ignited fast 10:12 est31 since paramat's changes, you'll need a half hour to burn down the tree 10:12 est31 perhaps only 10 minutes 10:13 est31 if you have technic installed, use the mk3 drill 10:13 Donillo have not got it yet 10:14 Donillo how it can ignite stuff? 10:14 nanepiwo generally, why are mesecons considered laggy? is it many abms? 10:15 est31 nanepiwo, you really want me to install them? well, then lets do it. 10:15 nanepiwo what? 10:23 est31 nanepiwo, mesecons and pipeworks now installed on trepca server 10:23 est31 have fun :) 10:24 nanepiwo well.... 10:24 Donillo he asked why mesecons are considered laggy :/ 10:24 nanepiwo and I though trepca was turned off 10:24 Donillo for me toggling mesecons stuff causes short, but noticeable game freeze 10:24 est31 no, its still there 10:24 est31 but very low on the list :( 10:25 nanepiwo I think everyone left when they were told it would be shut off 10:26 nanepiwo though its not a creative server, and I haven't really played there, so will be hard to get mesecon stuff for testing 10:33 * Krock tries to build 0.4.13-dev with postgresql 10:48 Donillo http://kgdskill.linkpc.net/files/screenshot_20150822_104700.png 10:48 Donillo I think trees should not grow like that, even if there are a dirt node 10:52 rubenwardy https://vimeo.com/92623463 10:56 Donillo damn it 10:56 Donillo that's not a mese, that's sulfur 10:56 Donillo what uses sulfur have? 12:39 Donillo holy shit 12:39 Donillo what do with corium? 13:13 Donillo how to deal with corium? 13:13 Donillo I've used worldedit to get rid of one source I've placed 14:21 CWz "A member of the core team has finished abstracting away Irrlicht, and can now run MT with Orge3D - however it's quite buggy. Lots of work is still needed." where can i find that rubenwardy? 14:21 CWz or was it a joke 14:22 Amaz CWz, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-08-21#i_4373248 14:23 CWz Zeno is an hero 15:03 STHGOM where could i find info about perlin noise? 15:04 STHGOM oop, that wiki page didnt seem to be there a day ago :P 15:04 STHGOM nvm 15:08 Wolfruddel Hi 15:09 luizrpgluiz hi :) 15:47 CWz Yugioh is the snowest paced anime ever 15:48 CWz by the time a duel ends minetest devs would release 4 versions of minetest and return from vacation in Hawaii 15:48 sfan5 >yugioh 15:48 sfan5 and 15:48 sfan5 >hawaii 15:49 STHGOM snowest? 15:49 CWz *slowest 15:49 CWz i should probably stop typing too fast 15:50 SylvieLorxu >tfw Minetest lacks mod store :( 15:50 CWz um no. I'm pretty sure there is one 15:51 CWz never used it though. i mush prefer using git 15:55 Amaz CWz, it was disabledin 0.4.13 15:55 Amaz *disabled in 15:56 CWz hmm 15:56 CWz Oh well 15:57 * CWz thinks about opening a club for all those old versions minetest that nobody plays anymore.. 15:57 CWz ^oddie 15:57 Amaz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d565ce95395ec514d48b86910ae333bd5bfaa951 15:58 est31 see commit description for reason 15:59 SylvieLorxu I'm really sad about the mod database going offline 15:59 SylvieLorxu That stuff was good :( 16:04 CWz Amaz: doctor Zeno` ported minetest to OgreEngine he is still doing tests 16:09 rubenwardy the mod database never really worked 16:10 rubenwardy it was impractical and clunky 16:22 CWz i think it only worked 15% of the time 16:22 CWz and was laggy 16:41 cimbakahn Does anyone know what's happening with stormchaser3000's server? I am getting "Connection timed out" error. 16:43 cimbakahn I am not the only one. Others can't get logged in there either. 16:45 CWz it probably crashed or it locked up 16:46 cimbakahn I wish i could find out when it will be up next. Noone can get in touch with stormchaser. 16:47 VanessaE which server are you lookign for? his skyblock seems to be up now? 16:48 cimbakahn stormchaser3000.noip.me 16:48 Siva It is called The Storm 16:49 Siva it yseally attached to inchra..net 16:49 Siva in #minetest there 16:50 CWz no that is the economy server 16:50 CWz not the skyblock 16:50 Siva yes it is 16:50 cimbakahn Port 30002 16:50 cimbakahn I'm still getting "Connection timed out" error. 16:50 Siva we're oridibarly on the econy server 16:51 Siva ordinarly 16:51 Siva economy :-) 16:51 Krock !up stormchaser3000.noip.me 30002 16:51 MinetestBot stormchaser3000.noip.me:30002 is up (112ms) 16:51 Calinou https://github.com/shadowsocks/shadowsocks/commit/938bba32a4008bdde9c064dda6a0597987ddef54 16:51 Calinou lol 16:51 CWz VanessaE: likes skyblocks? 16:52 CWz i don't get it Calinou 16:52 Krock Calinou, how did it get that many followers? 16:52 CWz [off] small minder 16:53 Calinou it's a thing used bypass China firewall apparently 16:53 Calinou GFW = great firewall I guess 16:53 Calinou most users commenting are Chinese 16:53 VanessaE CWz: yes, I do. 16:54 VanessaE but storm reset the map recently and all my stuff is gone. I had a nice house and orchard and was reasonably wealthy :( 16:54 CWz [off] I am starting think that almost all minecraft youtuber are recolors of eachother 16:55 CWz [off] very hard to tell whos does what 16:56 CWz [off] i hope this doesn't happen to minetest 16:56 LandMine what happens? 16:57 CWz [off] minecraft youtubers being "recolours" of eacho other 16:59 CWz a few I saw video of a guy blowing up minecraft knockoff toys. i smiled when the creeper toy exploded 17:00 Siva Only Minecraft YouTubers I watcj are thr ypgcasy 17:00 CWz most of them MCyoutubers do the exact same thing 17:01 LandMine add me on steam niggs 17:01 LandMine http://steamcommunity.com/id/landminemt/ 17:01 LandMine why isnt MT on steam!!! 17:01 LandMine i would have added up so many hours lol 17:02 rubenwardy Do you think it would be greenlit? 17:02 LandMine yeh 17:02 CWz No minecraft fanboys would downvote it 17:03 LandMine but MC is not even on steam ethier 17:03 rubenwardy I don't think MT is of high enough quality 17:03 rubenwardy as in polishness and bug-free 17:03 cimbakahn I fear if Minetest was on Steam, Steam would make people pay for it. 17:03 CWz We need to weaponize zeno 17:04 CWz 12$ 17:04 rubenwardy I'd pay for Minetest 17:04 rubenwardy as long as it was FOSS 17:04 rubenwardy I'd probably pay about £3 if it is a game I've never heard of before, and I'd been sold it enough 17:05 rubenwardy also, itch.io and gogs 17:05 Calinou paying for copies of digital works? no thanks, I'll get a gratis copy 17:05 rubenwardy So all software should be gratis? 17:05 Calinou yep :-) 17:05 Calinou don't sell software itself, sell services 17:05 Calinou or physical goodies, or such 17:06 LandMine i think you can put a game for free on steam 17:06 Calinou you can put gratis games on Steam 17:06 Calinou but Greenlighting costs ~$ 100 17:07 Calinou so you're making a net loss :) 17:07 LandMine ill give you those 100 17:07 rubenwardy what's the open source steam-like called? 17:07 CWz 100$ aint worth it what about desura 17:07 rubenwardy desura? 17:07 LandMine if you really need ot pay it 17:07 Calinou Lutris 17:07 Calinou Desura went bankrupt 17:07 Calinou (oh, Minetest is already on Lutris) 17:07 CWz Desura rip 17:08 CWz that means my account is gone too 17:08 cimbakahn The things that separate Minetest from Mine craft is: Minetest runs faster on your computer, and it is free as in cost, and it is open source. 17:08 CWz minecraft runs better for me then minetest does on windows 17:08 Calinou Minetest is not faster 17:08 Calinou Minecraft is well optimized as of 1.8 17:08 LandMine lol CWz same for me 17:08 CWz + optifine 17:08 Calinou it's also less buggy 17:08 Calinou no, even without Optifine, CWz 17:09 rubenwardy apparently they're recovering: http://www.desura.com/news/may-27th-update 17:09 Siva Desura probably shouldn't of been by Bad JuJu 17:09 Siva developed 17:10 Siva thanks for dropping words keyboard 17:10 Siva I have? 17:10 Siva O_o 17:10 Calinou I could of done this; this would be better then not typing that. 17:12 CWz I wonder if there is an opensource the Sims 17:13 cimbakahn I'm still getting "Connection timed out" error. 17:13 rubenwardy I'd like an open source Sims 17:13 rubenwardy I started writing one, but it's too much for my skills :P 17:14 LandMine lol 17:14 rubenwardy I'd also like an open source Stronghold game 17:14 CWz i hope if one ever gets made it won't be called opensims 17:14 rubenwardy because it already exists 17:14 LandMine who else gets a AV pop up from the main page of minetest.net? 17:14 rubenwardy as that ###life 17:15 rubenwardy AV?# 17:15 rubenwardy !g AV 17:15 LandMine antivirus 17:15 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.avclub.com/ 17:15 rubenwardy not me 17:15 rubenwardy I use GNU/Linux 17:15 CWz i wonder if Notch has heard about minetest 17:16 CWz and played it 17:16 Calinou maybe in secret, but definitely not in public :P 17:16 Calinou rubenwardy, an open source GTA!!! 17:16 Calinou I want to be a gangsta!!! 17:16 Calinou :p 17:16 CWz i think there might be open source gta but probbaly not 17:17 LandMine i dont think so 17:17 rubenwardy unfortunately, if you are good enough to make such projects and invest enough time you want to make loads of profit 17:17 LandMine it would be cool 17:17 Calinou rubenwardy, there are exceptions 17:17 LandMine if it was multiplayer though 17:17 Calinou many great projects made today are not-for-profit 17:17 rubenwardy while you can make money with FOSS, it's not so "traditional" 17:17 Calinou sadly this is so rare in gaming 17:17 rubenwardy yeah 17:17 Calinou the problem is that gamers don't want free/libre software, they want hype 17:17 LandMine lol 17:17 Calinou they want stuff to be encrypted around so that you can't "cheat" or "know secrets" 17:19 Calinou rubenwardy, have you looked at Godot? 17:19 rubenwardy yeah 17:19 Hijiri is that the one freedomware game engine 17:19 Calinou I made Libre Pinball in it :) 17:19 Calinou Hijiri, yes 17:20 Calinou see https://notabug.org/koz.ross/awesome-gamedev 17:20 rubenwardy I have, it's a very good list 17:20 Siva GTA would be mostly boring without cheats 17:21 rubenwardy I was watching talks about procedural generation from it 17:21 Hijiri Calinou: does it come with precise sound timing 17:21 CWz what scripting language does godot use 17:21 Hijiri like could I play some music, then get a very accurate reading of the current position 17:21 Calinou if your game runs smoothly, possibly 17:22 cimbakahn I agree! We should have an open source Sims3 clone, and a GTA Vice City clone. 17:22 Calinou CWz, its own language: GDScript. 17:22 rubenwardy CWz: GDScript 17:22 Calinou it is similar to Python 17:22 rubenwardy damn 17:22 Hijiri I want it to be independent of how smooth the game is running 17:22 Hijiri if the music lags then the timing should lag too 17:22 rubenwardy music in games sucks, there's almost no work on sound physics engine 17:22 rubenwardy s 17:22 Calinou well, you can always use streams (.ogg music)... 17:23 rubenwardy well, not "sucks" 17:23 rubenwardy more "misses potentials" 17:23 rubenwardy all the work is by researchers, and not actually implemented 17:24 Calinou reverberation is possible in Godot, I think 17:24 rubenwardy that's cool 17:25 rubenwardy I can't wait to start uni, and learn more higher level stuff 17:27 Calinou I start uni in 10 days :p 17:27 Calinou I'll learn mostly high-level stuff 17:27 Calinou probably no C or CC 17:27 Calinou C++* 17:27 rubenwardy https://notabug.org/koz.ross/awesome-gamedev#utilities 17:27 rubenwardy monkey isn't FOSS 17:28 rubenwardy I start in a month :( 17:29 Calinou https://github.com/blitz-research/monkey 17:29 Calinou yeah it's strange 17:34 exio4 Calinou: what are you going to study? 17:35 exio4 been at uni for over a year, boring stuff mostly 17:35 Calinou http://src-media.com/ppn-mmi/fiches-modules.html 17:35 Calinou here you can find a list (in French) 17:36 Calinou hmm, doesn't go well in translator 17:36 Calinou so... we will study infography (using proprietary software), project management (also using proprietary software), Web development (mostly using free software!), networks (using Debian, likely) 17:36 Calinou and more 17:37 exio4 so you aren't studying computer science 17:37 exio4 I realized, I may don't know french but the language gives enough hints 17:37 Calinou it isn't computer science per se 17:38 exio4 Anglais sounds like English 17:38 Calinou yes, it is English 17:38 exio4 boring then 17:38 exio4 TICs are boring too 17:38 exio4 it's like software engineering and random stuff 17:38 Calinou many areas will help me dive into computer science, probably 17:38 Calinou like, more "advanced" maths 17:39 Calinou I don't think I have to touch C++ or Java anyway :-) 17:39 Calinou literally everything can be made in HTML, CSS, JavaScript 17:39 Calinou and other high-level languages 17:39 exio4 are you learning anything interesing? 17:40 Calinou well, JavaScript should sure be interesting... 17:40 exio4 I repeat my answer 17:40 exio4 like, something interesing with technical points in favor 17:41 exio4 not just marketing and/or forced-popularity 17:41 Calinou the university I go to doesn't plan to teach how to be a software developer 17:41 Calinou it's how to be a Web developer and designer 17:41 exio4 I never talked about being a software developer 17:42 exio4 ah, well 17:42 exio4 nothing from a technical point is interesing there :> 17:42 exio4 I found uni to be too damn boring so far 17:43 exio4 http://src-media.com/ppn-mmi/fiches-modules.html#m1202 doesn't show anything nice 17:43 Calinou look, I don't need C++ to make games, since I can use Godot... 17:43 Calinou exio4, click on Semestre 1 to see only activites of first semester btw 17:46 exio4 yea 17:46 exio4 h 17:46 exio4 what's réseaux? 17:46 exio4 research? 17:46 exio4 it doesn't look like tha 17:46 exio4 t 17:47 Calinou réseaux = networking 17:47 exio4 makes sense 17:47 Calinou should make heavy use of GNU/Linux :) 17:47 exio4 that looks like one of the boring parts too 17:47 exio4 I dislike everything actually 17:48 exio4 (I am not talking about your stuff, also mine) 17:52 LandMine calinou 17:52 LandMine where you from? 17:53 Calinou France 17:53 LandMine ok 17:54 exio4 oh, it's a short thing now that I see 17:55 Calinou exio4, it's only 2 years yes 17:55 Calinou but can be extended to 3 years 17:56 exio4 "extended" as in ? 17:56 Jordach [off] ...Calinou comes from the land of spies ;^) 18:00 Telesight1 Hello, where can i find the description of all the variables of the mapgenerator settings in minetest.conf ? Like this: mgv7_np_terrain_base = 4, 70, (600, 600, 600), 82341, 5, 0.6, 2.0 18:06 cimbakahn If anyone sees stormchaser3000. Please tell him the servers down. Noone can log in. I am getting "Connection timed out" error. 18:06 Calinou this is why you invest in an automatic restart script :) 18:08 Krock cimbakahn, sent him a message 18:11 cimbakahn Thank you very much! 18:15 hmmmm can somebody delete this post https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=13071#p187730 18:16 sfan5 done 18:18 TheWild 0.4.13 and my computer hasn't enough memory to handle Minetest 18:19 hmmmm i have trouble understanding why people would feel compelled to make shitposts like that 18:20 CWz what was the shitpost? 18:21 sfan5 "FIRST!!!!!!" 18:22 CWz I hate those. they really must have an uneventful life 18:25 sfan5 FOR FUCKS SAKE 18:25 sfan5 CAN NOBODY READ SHIT 18:25 sfan5 Lua Errors... (New posts) 18:25 sfan5 by Tmanyo » 17. Aug 2015, 03:45 18:25 sfan5 in fucking general discussion 18:27 sfan5 !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12983 18:27 MinetestBot sfan5: I got a DeviantArt Page - Minetest Forums 18:27 sfan5 nobody gives a shit 18:27 sfan5 why is that in general discussion 18:34 sfan5 found [snip] 18:34 sfan5 (Inocudom's Intuition: >_> Dude, when will you [snip]) 18:34 sfan5 I will be a real man and give my intuition the boot right now! 18:34 sfan5 SLAM!!! 18:34 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot 18:35 sfan5 for fucks sake 18:35 sfan5 anyway 18:35 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=187902#p187902 18:35 sfan5 did that guy take drugs or something 18:35 VanessaE wat 18:38 Siva someone should let hm know...."drugs are bad mmkay." 18:38 Krock lolz 18:39 Krock rekt 18:47 israuor hmm.. why don't I get a activation mail from forum.minetest.net ? 18:48 Calinou israuor, what is your forum username? 18:48 israuor israuor 18:49 Calinou I activated your account, you may now log in 18:49 rubenwardy while we're on it, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13044 18:49 israuor yeee thx. 18:49 rubenwardy should be in bugs and problems 18:51 * Out`Of`Control don't use forums 18:51 Out`Of`Control Krock: converting map fixed error 18:51 Krock good. 18:52 Out`Of`Control ty 18:52 CWz [off] ultra religious fanatic Christians tend to do drugs to feel the holy spirits merge and polymerize with there soul essence 18:52 CWz ^^[citation needed] 18:53 israuor CWz if it works... why not ;) 18:53 Out`Of`Control why don't they suicide to get near jesus? 18:53 CWz wow another person from my country 18:54 israuor ? 18:54 israuor CWz why do you think I'm from your country .. 18:55 israuor btw.. which one is "your" country ? 18:55 CWz nvm 18:55 israuor ? 18:55 Out`Of`Control israuor: from ? 18:57 israuor IL 18:58 CWz Nice country. 19:15 israuor nice .. but too expensive here for my taste ;) 19:17 Krock what's too expensive? 19:18 israuor living, eating, fucking.. everything. 19:21 Krock don't care about it. You won't need your money once you're dead. 19:24 CWz israuor: indeed 19:24 israuor ;) right.. that could've come out of my mouth as well ;_) 19:26 CWz israuor: that and constant terrorist threats by terrorist 19:27 israuor believe me.. nobody cares about that 19:32 WSDguy2014 Hello guys, 0.4.13 can generate acacia trees from mapgen v6? 19:32 CWz i think so 19:33 Krock testing is the fastest way 19:33 WSDguy2014 CWz, thats can generate cacia trees, right? 19:39 Krock cactus is not a tree 19:41 israuor I don't think he was meaning cactus ;p 19:41 WSDguy2014 guys how i do download latest dev version? 19:42 israuor which OS ? 19:42 WSDguy2014 Windows 19:43 israuor hnmm.... I have no Idea form windows.. but I guess you can find it here: http://www.minetest.net/download 19:43 Krock WSDguy2014, see forums, Builds section 19:44 israuor http://www.minetest.net/download#windows_xp_vista_7_8_81_10 19:44 israuor why are you using windows ? ... minetest runs much better on a gnu linux system. 19:48 luizrpgluiz hi all 19:48 israuor hi luizrpgluiz 19:49 luizrpgluiz israuor: hi,how are you? 19:49 israuor I'm good.. thank you for asking. :) How are you doin' ? 19:51 Telesight1 Hello, where can i find the description of all the variables of the mapgenerator settings in minetest.conf ? Like these: mgv7_np_terrain_base = 4, 70, (600, 600, 600), 82341, 5, 0.6, 2.0 19:51 WSDguy2014 allright, theres no download latest dev version 19:51 WSDguy2014 :| 19:52 israuor hm... I don't think you can download compiled daylies for windows.. 19:52 israuor (I'm not sure about that) 19:52 israuor but a possibility would be, to compile from source yourself 19:53 Krock hm... I don't think you can download compiled daylies for windows.. 19:53 Krock true, but https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42 19:53 Krock it's just that 0.4.13 stable is the newest build 19:54 israuor I know.. but there are no daily builds for windows, are ther? 19:54 israuor e 19:54 israuor (not that I'm interested in them) 19:54 WSDguy2014 okay, bye, i am gonna playing on singleplayer world. 19:55 Krock AFAIK no 19:55 TheWild 0.4.13 just came few days ago 19:55 TheWild I'll ask some questions about the beginnings? 19:56 israuor right.. but he was asking for latest dev builds 19:56 TheWild Why C++? And why Irrlicht? 19:57 CWz Why not? 19:57 israuor hhhh 19:57 israuor just wanted to answer the same.. 19:57 israuor I guess, that Cpp was the developer's favourite programmiong language.. 19:57 israuor and irrlich.. 19:57 israuor hm.. it's open source.. high performance realtime 3D enginge.. 19:57 israuor also written in C++ 19:58 israuor it's completely cross-platform, using D3D, OpenGL ... bla bla bla.. 19:58 israuor so I don't see a reason not to use it. 19:58 TheWild yeah, it's also about "not reinventing the wheel", but the problem is: When Irrlicht has bug, Minetest has bug too. 19:59 CWz i heard that some dev guy is porting minetest to ogreengine 19:59 CWz i think he's been smoking jungle_grass 20:00 israuor lol 20:00 israuor TheWild hmm... but when another enginge would have a bug.. .minetest would have a bug as well... same shit.. just another engine ;) 20:01 TheWild I wasn't ever messing with these engines. What such engine gives you that raw GL does not? 20:01 israuor I've got another question... When nobody is active in a part of a map... nothing's working there... tree's not growing... pipeworks as well ..... a bot would be nice... who's just ther to keep things going... 20:02 israuor I know, I could open another minetest instance for that .. but that uses a lot of resources.. .don't need a graphical interface for that... a little minetest - cli would be enough... has anyone done something like that already ? 20:03 TheWild well, actually I can understand why Minetest is working this way. Minecraft isn't better. 20:03 Brains israuor: I think you want one of the anchors.. World anchor? Basically keeps that bit loaded. 20:03 israuor Brains : anchors ??? never heard of them... gimme more information :) sounds interesting. 20:04 Brains israuor: The one I'm using is part of technic... "Administrative World Anchor" 20:05 * israuor is becoming horny now. 20:05 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10006 20:05 Brains israuor: technic:admin_anchor. I believe that you have to have an admin give it to you (not craftable or anything like that) and you might want to up the config option that limits the loaded blocks... 20:05 * Brains uses it to keep his quarries and processing plant running when he's doing silly things like sleeping. 20:06 TheWild about furnaces: It seems that someone was thinking harder and got the idea of storing the last time the furnace was active or something like to keep the information when server was unloading chunk where the furnace was. Some more theory, and when you go back to this chunk, amount of smelted stuff is magically recalculated. 20:06 israuor Brains yesss ... I guess that's exatly what I want... 20:06 israuor thank you so much for that information. 20:07 TheWild I do not remember it was done to the game or left to implement later (or never) 20:08 Brains TheWild: I am in a similar spot, I remember such talk but not if it was ever done. I'm also not sure how that would interact with the transport/sorting stuff. 20:08 * Brains usually has "surge" loops on his processing stuff so that bits can wait their turn while the machines were busy... So that bit of magic wouldn't really help a lot. 20:10 * TheWild is now AFK 20:10 luizrpgluiz It is simple to answer, C++ is a programming language faster than using Java, so you don't need to install another language like java to run on your computer 20:11 israuor Brains: surge loops ? 20:13 Brains israuor: Buffer is a better way to describe it... The loops just give breathing room between the surging output of the quarry and the steady processing of the machines. 20:14 Brains Anything new from the quarry that is already being processed in the machines can slide right in but new types will just circle around in the loop until the machine is free. 20:14 israuor okay.. now I understand... we do similar on our server . 20:15 israuor the problem alle the time is.. nobody there.. nothings working.. 20:15 israuor hashtag teleportin tubes. 20:16 Brains Yeah, the admin anchor will solve that for you. I have a set of 8 quarries working with one anchor that teleports the output to another room with the processing stuff and another anchor. Heck, I even get my uranium ground, centrifuged, and smelted for me. (Never bothered to set up a fuel rod creator bit, I can handle that manually well enough.) 20:17 * Brains only plays on a house server with his son and sometimes his wife. He has chests full of materials for whenever he gets bored. 20:18 israuor orrr... so no entry from outside ? 20:18 israuor just for looking ? 20:18 israuor entrance 20:19 Brains Quarry->tele->processing->tele->storage 20:19 * Brains will usually leave a teleporter or elevator or something to visit the machines. Oh, also gotta remember to put a vacuum tube in there for times when something gets messed up... 20:21 * TheWild is no longer AFK 20:22 TheWild luizrpgluiz, thanks for bringing the fact that "C++ is a programming language faster than using Java". 20:22 TheWild unfortunately, and by unknown reasons Minetest at current state doesn't work faster than our Java competitor 20:23 zat says who 20:23 TheWild me 20:23 zat and you are?? 20:24 zat who knows you? :P 20:24 zat Minecraft has always been a resource hog everytime I try it 20:26 TheWild but see other side. Minecraft can generate terrain visible from 150 blocks, while Minetest stays at 75 to keep its performance... moderate! 20:26 zat change the... config? DUHHHHH 20:26 Brains 75? I could swear that I'm seeing farther than that... 20:28 zat distance for terrain generation is a thing, not necessarily same as how much your client will keep in sight. 20:28 zat however, no setting there is forced. 20:30 TheWild ok, it seems I have to dig the old stuff 20:31 Brains Dig the old stuff? 20:33 TheWild I haven't running that Minecraft hog for some time 20:39 TheWild okay, you were right. Nothing to show today. Minecraft oscillates around 30 FPS. But feels smoother than Minetest... maybe because it does not change FPS that drastically. 20:47 israuor I'm most of the time around 60 fps.. 20:47 israuor never more than 60 20:47 israuor I guess that's limited form the game itself. 20:48 TheWild 60 FPS is the common stardand in gaming 20:48 israuor ;) no idea.. 20:49 israuor I'm not gaming at all... just started minetesting a few weeks ago. 20:49 brothersome There is a setting in minetest.conf that sets the FPS 20:49 israuor good to know :) 20:50 brothersome That is the Maximum FPS 20:57 israuor yess sir... just saw the /usr/share/doc/minetest/minetest.conf.example 20:57 israuor for the first time ;) 20:57 technics_ are you sure the anchor thing is into the technic mod? doesnt find it into git repo... 21:00 technics_ oh. found it 21:05 israuor yeeeeehh... 21:05 * israuor 's sitting on hot coals 21:06 israuor Looking forward to see the fu**ing world anchor 21:11 technics_ hm... 21:12 TheWild Superflat - what a stupid map, better try another seed. 21:13 technics_ :D 21:26 rubenwardy israuor, Irrlicht is outdated and rarely updated 21:26 israuor okay... didn't know that.. 21:26 israuor As I mentioned.. I'm not a gamer at all ;) 21:27 israuor Just obsessed with / addicted to minetest 21:27 rubenwardy also, we're probably not switching to Orge, they used it to test whether the abstraction works 21:29 TheWild What such engine gives you that raw GL can't? 21:33 israuor was there an idea to switch to Orge? 21:38 TheWild yeah, if Minetest get shadows, we can switch to Ogre 21:58 israuor so guys... was nice here.. but I've got to go tob bed.. work tomorrow .. 21:58 israuor see'ya 22:59 Out`Of`Control hi, i keep getting error with many new mods, "default.LIGHT_MAX" lines, if i remove "default." works fine. Do i need special mod for that??? 23:00 Out`Of`Control light_source = default.LIGHT_MAX-2 23:01 Out`Of`Control mt 0.4.13 dev, i get same error with 0.4.12 23:54 sloantothebone Soooo, anybody working on the last 2 issues for 0.4.13?