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01:00 cornernote hey all
01:01 cornernote so who here owns a tech-deck ?
01:01 cornernote they are loads of fun when you're supposed to be working
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01:47 swift110-phone Hey all
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04:17 Voronwe Hi, i seem to have lost a bones block, any way to locate it inside a server? After extensive search, I cannot find it.
04:20 Voronwe I looked in the various logfiles, cant seem to locate where I died....
04:21 Voronwe would it be possible to look for it in the database file (it's my singleplayer server)
04:21 kaeza Voronwe, if you dug some blocks before dying, you can try to look for the last odd location
04:21 kaeza dug or placed
04:22 gmaxwell the debug log should show the coordinates where you died, I though.
04:22 Voronwe yeah, unfortunately I've been in and outside the game so often that I simply cannot locate where I was last! I suspect I tried to teleport directly some time ago, then died so often that it isn't there?
04:23 Voronwe is there anyway to locate bones blocks say within the map database file itself?
04:24 Voronwe I thought perhaps I'd use minetest mapper, but how can I determine what shows up in the map image?
04:25 kaeza look for something like "PLAYER damaged by N hp at (X,Y,Z)" in the logs
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04:29 Voronwe Yeah I think that may be the thing to do - I'll just try to keep track of every singl place i might have died, and just teleport through each one by one.
04:30 kaeza by the way, you can disable bones too, if you don't like that feature
04:30 Voronwe It just occurred to me that maybe, if I set a colors.txt file containing only bones entry it would pinpoint the location, unless bones don't show up in minetest mapper?
04:31 Voronwe hmm, sometimes it's more hassle to have bones, i admit, but it makes one focus on staying alive if you use mobs mods
04:31 kaeza well, that's another option, assuming bones are in the surface
04:31 est31 Voronwe, can't you look into your debug.txt?
04:31 Voronwe ah they aren't I am fairly sure they're underground somewhere, probably near lava. I so hate lava. Arggh!
04:31 est31 just grep for "damaged"
04:32 Voronwe grep which file, debug.log?
04:32 est31 debug.txt
04:32 est31 its in the directory you started minetest in
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04:33 Voronwe yeah I found it gets so large I archived it - argh. Is there no way to search the db file itself? What format is sqlite anyway, is it open documented format?
04:34 est31 there are file openers for sqlite yes
04:34 est31 but that wont help you much
04:34 est31 a good bet would perhaps really be to hack on minetestmapper to search for that particular node.
04:35 * gmaxwell prods at xanadu and finds it down. :(
04:35 Voronwe well, it was really just a faint hope, because I couldn't work out where I am between ground and probably about 1000 blocksground to cover down somewhere between 1000 and -1000 each X,Y. Thats some
04:37 Voronwe anyway, I'll try as you suggest, they are helpful suggestions. Thanks very much.
04:39 Voronwe there appear to be no counts of "damaged" in my debug.txt file!
04:43 Voronwe Considering the situation, wondering whether it's really worth seeking it for a singleplayer or just scrap the world and start over? I'm sure it shouldn't be this much effort for stuff
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08:28 est31 bureau, buero, man french spelling is hard.
08:28 rubenwardy fuck yes
08:28 rubenwardy I got my grades!
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11:58 rubenwardy so many cringes in this topic
11:58 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=47&t=13009
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12:33 rubenwardy Suggestions? https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/2fc9f642a38882caf24c
12:34 rubenwardy !title
12:34 MinetestBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy_bounties.md · GitHub
12:34 rubenwardy note, that isn't in affect yet
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12:50 CraigyDavi Nice idea rubenwardy, I'd like to see those features
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14:57 diemartin have you noticed that every feking program and their mother want to be connected to the internet now? I mean really, it's obvious that an e-mail, IRC, browser, etc need to be connected, but srsly every fucking program wants to auto-update for no fuking reason
14:57 diemartin </rant>
14:57 kaeza and don't even get me started on "web technologies" (looking at you, Atom)
14:58 kaeza I guess lamefun was right after all... creepy
15:00 kaeza oh, and also, mornings
15:02 ElectronLibre Just a question kaeza, what program(s?) where you refering to when you complained about them wanting to connect to the internet at all costs?
15:04 VanessaE kaeza: I think you can blame windows/microsloth for not implementing a reliable package manager ala apt :P
15:05 Halamix2 I heard that Win 10 have package manager
15:05 Halamix2 and it's build-io one, not chocolatee
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15:05 Halamix2 *chocolatey
15:06 Halamix2 yup, http://www.howtogeek.com/200334/windows-10-inclu​des-a-linux-style-package-manager-named-oneget/
15:06 VanessaE too little, too late :P
15:06 Halamix2 yup
15:07 kaeza ElectronLibre, pretty much everything you download has some sort of auto-update, be it messaging software, text editors, image viewers, whatever
15:07 ElectronLibre I see.
15:08 ElectronLibre Now I understand. *looks at CTCP VERSION*
15:10 T4im iptables solves that issue partly :|
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15:11 T4im ipsets required too, at least with the browsers.. you heared about google installing proprietary spyware into open source chromium on linux?
15:11 T4im (I suppose the proprietary version has it in there anyway, but noone expects privacy with that anyway)
15:12 kaeza I wouldn't complain if they just put a "check for updates" menu item or some other widget that takes you to a webpage. but let ME decide if an update is worth it
15:13 kaeza particularly since I'm on limited bandwidth cap and can't afford e.g. chrome downloading 100s of MB per day
15:14 ElectronLibre I think they consider that the average user is too stupid to check regulary for updates.
15:14 Krock hello people
15:14 ElectronLibre Or too lazy.
15:14 VanessaE hi
15:14 ElectronLibre Hi.
15:15 T4im I would be more concerned with what they upload, kaeza :P
15:15 ElectronLibre That's why these softwares always end up doing things automatically without any order from the user..
15:17 T4im and they have proven to abuse it: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/g​adgets-and-tech/news/google-was-downloadi​ng-audio-listeners-onto-computers-without​-consent-say-chromium-users-10335111.html
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15:18 ElectronLibre What is shocking is that people are still shocked about such things.
15:19 T4im I don't know.. they aren't shocked enough for me... they got used to it and shrug it off
15:20 T4im rational people would run from windows 10 now, but soon they end up defending it instead
15:20 ElectronLibre Not everybody understands that a big corporation spying on you is NOT normal.
15:22 Halamix2 I bought a laptop with Win 10, I usually work on my Win 7 computer and on laptop I find it more enjoyable to work on Xubuntu, I maybe will stop using win 10 but for now it's too early
15:22 T4im you have read their ToS and "privacy" terms, right?
15:22 ElectronLibre Nobody does.
15:22 T4im I did
15:22 ElectronLibre (Normally)
15:23 T4im and I don't even use windows :p
15:23 T4im it was a too hilarious opportunity to skip
15:23 ElectronLibre Since I upgraded my old laptop I had not used since months to Win10 I only want to wipe everything off and install a GNU/Linux distro.
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15:24 Halamix2 by default they can collect data about e.g. how you write or speak, can send your wifi passwords to your skype friends (it's more complicated, by default you need to do some work in order to activate it)
15:25 T4im they can do more :p
15:25 Halamix2 on default ypou have one DI for ads, which means personalized ads
15:25 VanessaE well I always tell people I don't trust windows, main reason I don't run it.  Now there's proof of precisely why I don't.
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15:25 ElectronLibre That's a telescreen (don't know how it was in original english text in 1984) in your laptop.
15:25 Halamix2 but what can they do very bad that cannot be disabled?
15:25 T4im for example, you allow them to go through all your files and delete them if certain requirements are met
15:25 VanessaE ElectronLibre: the same.
15:25 ElectronLibre And people are willing to use it.
15:26 T4im basicly its faster to tell you that they havent allowed themselves to delete files of your own creation..
15:26 ElectronLibre That's just 1984 entering the real world.
15:26 Halamix2 sometimes they have no choice
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15:26 ElectronLibre Halamix2: You always have another choice.
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15:27 ElectronLibre But sometimes it means that you must stop doing things you used to do.
15:27 Halamix2 even in work where you must run certain programs that are uncompatible wth wine on PC that have only win 10 installed?
15:27 T4im prior versions where "security wise highly suspicious " the newest should be treated like economical espionage if anyone places it into a company but the leadership themselves..
15:29 T4im the result being, that they keep sticking with old versions .P
15:29 ElectronLibre Halamix2: You have another choice, but you have to sacrify things.
15:30 ElectronLibre Sticking with the old Win8 or Win7 remains the best solution to me if you need to have a Windows OS on your computer and do not want Win10.
15:31 est31 thats the problem about closed source
15:31 est31 you have no choice
15:31 est31 here, if a dev is angry they just fork off
15:31 Halamix2 how about using Xubuntu for work and win 10 for games etc.?
15:31 est31 and try their luck
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15:35 T4im Halamix2: they might prevent you from booting linux..
15:36 Halamix2 well, I don't think this is real threat
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15:36 T4im they can just as well read data from there
15:36 Halamix2 from ext4?
15:36 Halamix2 finally
15:37 * T4im shrugs
15:39 T4im there's the other issue published a few days ago
15:40 T4im http://www.pcworld.com/article/2965872/compone​nts-processors/design-flaw-in-intel-processors​-opens-door-to-rootkits-researcher-says.html
15:40 T4im I'd imagine it to be easier for malware to target windows and get access to these facilities
15:42 T4im 'ol vulnerability from '93 ;) still active
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15:56 CWz Latest dev seems to like crashing more
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16:02 est31 windows can open ext4?????
16:02 est31 really?
16:02 VanessaE CWz: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3047
16:02 Halamix2 not really
16:02 est31 sorry for that bug btw
16:03 est31 stupid mistake
16:03 VanessaE est31: actually there used to be an ext2/3 driver.
16:03 Halamix2 at least it couldn't last time when I telephoned to MS
16:03 Halamix2 but not official one driver
16:03 Halamix2 and writing was somewhat broken
16:04 MinetestBot [git] celeron55 -> minetest/minetest: Fix segfault caused by a8e238ed06ee8285ed4459e9deda3117419837f6 def274a http://git.io/v3Km0 (2015-08-13T19:02:48+03:00)
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16:09 Halamix2 http://www.tenforums.com/general-discussion/3348-w​indows-10-go-handles-linux-ext3-4-file-system.html
16:09 Halamix2 It looks like Windows 10 Enterpirise To Go can read and write ext3/4
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16:11 est31 it can be very well be a fake
16:11 Halamix2 yup
16:11 Halamix2 maybe I should call MS tommorrow?
16:16 T4im well consider how to go is being used; makes actually sense there for them (but not security wise for the host computer)
16:17 T4im linux live-systems often have support for ntfs and fat32 as well
16:17 est31 fat32 is a must
16:17 Jordach at least my laptop won't have this problem - it'll be pure Linux
16:17 T4im well, yea, true
16:17 est31 its universal usb and sd card standard
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16:19 amadin can i migrate from redis to leveldb or mysql?
16:19 T4im Jordach: great :)
16:20 T4im amadin: there's a --migrate parameter in the minetest binary
16:20 T4im to migrate from one backend to another
16:20 amadin it not work for migrate from redis
16:20 est31 amadin, most likely your error is not a redis problem
16:21 amadin and so?
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16:22 amadin i turn off server i think forever
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16:22 amadin because if i try migrate from redis to leveldb or mysql i get error
16:23 VanessaE amadin: there's another way if you can make migrate work:  start a client and use local map saving mode
16:23 VanessaE explore the entire map (well, all that has been built on)
16:24 VanessaE once you're done, close both, make a backup of both the original redis world and the client-saved result, and use the client's copy, which will be in sqlite, to run your server from there on
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16:25 VanessaE this method was used, in multiple sessions, to capture all of the map from Redcrab to create Silvercrab, since the former is basically dead now.
16:26 amadin i not undestand you
16:26 VanessaE best I can do to explain.
16:26 amadin how i must explore map?
16:26 VanessaE walk around?
16:26 VanessaE literally explore?
16:27 amadin and what i must do while i explore map? what i must see on here?
16:27 amadin on map
16:27 VanessaE just walk around.
16:27 amadin i walk every day
16:27 est31 you will have to explore the whole world
16:27 VanessaE make sure you have seen everything on the map
16:27 amadin i undestand
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16:28 amadin map must not have not explored places?
16:28 VanessaE you can ignore areas of the map that no one's built on
16:28 VanessaE you're only interested in the structures
16:28 VanessaE but you have to make sure you see *everything* that is important or it won't be saved.
16:28 VanessaE and that's assuming you turned local saving on
16:29 VanessaE but ahead of all this, you should keep trying to get your map to migrate properly.
16:29 amadin map is too big and players build mome sometimes very far away
16:29 Krock2 <3 BSoD
16:29 VanessaE or file a bug report if it'ds impossible.
16:30 Sketch2 you'll want to make sure you have the same map-gen key fro both
16:30 amadin so i can't migrate from redis to another database? or it's possible?
16:30 amadin because i will not explore all my map - it's too big
16:31 Sketch2 nobody, that I know of, has made a converter
16:31 amadin and please remove from wiki redis support
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16:32 amadin or make converter
16:33 amadin vanessa if i explored map, how i can save the client-side map?
16:33 VanessaE amadin: it's a minetest.conf setting you put in your client
16:33 VanessaE enable_local_map_saving = true
16:34 amadin i undestand
16:34 VanessaE the results will be dumped into <minetest>/worlds/ I think named for the server they came from
16:34 amadin so if i set fast speed i can do this
16:34 VanessaE possibly.
16:34 amadin huh
16:34 VanessaE but if the map is really large, you need to consider getting the --migrate option to work.
16:34 Sketch2 yeah, running and flying would be ok
16:35 est31 I honestly dont understand why redis conversion doesnt work
16:35 est31 I mean it should be possible to write a generic conversion routine
16:35 amadin one minute wait i put here an migrate error
16:35 est31 just read all mapblocks, and save them
16:35 est31 end of story
16:35 Sketch2 I agree est31
16:35 est31 the only additional function needed, is to list all mapblocks
16:36 amadin i think clien-side map save for players 70% of buildings
16:37 Sketch2 did the developers of those databases create a converter?
16:37 Sketch2 or are there any open-source solutions that might help in that regard?
16:37 amadin i think with client-side map i can copy map from other servers ;)
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16:39 VanessaE amadin: that's correct.
16:40 VanessaE est31: that's actually what the server is already supposedly doing
16:40 amadin create full copy from other server and run it ;)))))
16:40 VanessaE but I guess redis relies on an external database server so things may be a tad different there.
16:40 VanessaE amadin: you could do that yes, but you will surely get yelled at by the operators of the original servers.
16:40 amadin now i compile minetest again and put here erorr from migrate
16:40 VanessaE no
16:40 VanessaE put it in a pastebin
16:41 amadin error have 3 -4 worlds
16:42 VanessaE ok.
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16:46 Sketch2 I'm seeing some notes here that might begin a conversion - https://github.com/antirez/redis/issues/288
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16:53 amadin If i try migrate to leveldb i get - "error segmentation" in my own language (not english) so i think it write OS
16:53 amadin but migrate from mysql to leveldb worked fine
16:56 VanessaE oh, segfault eh
16:56 amadin So i can wait some days if anybody add conversion
16:57 Calinou use LANG=C to force console output to be English
16:57 Calinou eg. LANG=C ./minetest
16:57 sd1001 Is $LANG enough? I've always set $LC_ALL instead
16:58 Calinou works for me
16:58 Calinou it's ugly though
16:58 Calinou (you should not set LANG=C, but rather LANG=en_US.utf-8 or whatever
16:59 amadin Anybody else use redis on public server whith 10-20 players online?
17:02 freelikegnu I'm using the default sqlite with sync turned off, I should probably witch to level db...
17:02 Calinou LevelDB is not necessarily faster
17:02 Calinou in singleplayer it'll feel clunkier
17:02 VanessaE I use leveldb on my servers.
17:02 freelikegnu I pretty much only do MP
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17:05 Sketch2 MySQL Workbench is supposed to help with database migration - http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/
17:06 Sketch2 don't know the specifics, as I've never used it
17:07 freelikegnu sounds painful
17:09 Sketch2 I agree.  Most likely it'll output to something like plaintext CSV or JSON, then you'd need to go from there to the other type.
17:10 amadin how to enable mysql and redis, because if i enabled redis, then mysql turn off while compilation
17:10 amadin sqlite i mean
17:10 Sketch2 I'd imagine it's doable, but it'll prolly inflate the size like 5x, so you'd need a ton of space during the conversion
17:12 kahrl amadin: AFAIK there isn't even a way to compile without sqlite
17:12 amadin i ready
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17:20 Robert_Zenz I seem to have trouble building/compiling Minetest on 64bit Linux. Looks like the build is confused and tries to build a 32bit version. Does somebody know how to build it correctly on 64bit?
17:20 * Sketch2 wonders if Player1 was selling Viagra at his shop
17:20 Calinou Robert_Zenz, it should automatically be built for 64-bit... what distribution do you use? and which instructions are you following?
17:21 Calinou if on Debian or Ubuntu, try https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
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17:22 Robert_Zenz Calinou, Ubuntu 14.04. I'm following the build instructions from the dev wiki.
17:23 amadin follow instructions from README
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17:24 Robert_Zenz Calinou, amadin, okay, a little more specific: http://pastebin.com/0WYmzP2C
17:25 est31 Robert_Zenz, do you somehow cross compile?
17:26 Robert_Zenz est31, I do not intent to, if that answers the question.
17:26 est31 it seems that it wants to use 32 bit
17:26 amadin robert you must run cmake from /minetest direcory not from src
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17:27 Robert_Zenz amadin, the full path is ~/src/minetest ... src is the directory in my home where I keep sources.
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17:27 Robert_Zenz est31, I couldn't find any documentation on how to choose the target platform...do you know how?
17:31 est31 Robert_Zenz, which os?
17:32 Robert_Zenz est31, Ubuntu 14.04 64bit.
17:32 est31 Robert_Zenz, usually, that doesn't need additional config
17:33 est31 did you switch in the past?
17:33 est31 e.g. from 32 bit to 64 bit?
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17:34 CWz is it me or do jungletree look diffrent then they used to a a month ago
17:34 Robert_Zenz est31, yes, I have switched from 32bit-pae to 64bit the other day and wanted now to recompile Minetest.
17:35 est31 Robert_Zenz, have you tried a clean re-clone?
17:35 est31 cmake might be confused by the switch
17:35 est31 it has cache files
17:36 est31 those have the paths hardcoded
17:37 Robert_Zenz est31, so I gues running cmake does not start it from scratch, huh? Will try.
17:37 est31 no, it only loads that cache if present
17:39 kahrl I don't know what amadin is doing wrong, I just attempted a redis migration for the first time and it worked without issues
17:43 Robert_Zenz est31, that did it, Thank you very much, I thought that running cmake would reconfigure *everything*, mistake on my end.
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18:00 luizrpgluiz hi all
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18:05 luizrpgluiz TBC_x: are you going to be responsible for the multiworld or multiverse in minetest?
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18:07 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: game.cpp: Update cached settings a670ecf http://git.io/v36JR (2015-08-13T20:05:53+02:00)
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19:06 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: minimap: Add ability to disable from server be9024a http://git.io/v36g7 (2015-08-13T15:05:48-04:00)
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20:04 gold_digger Who do we go to for serious reporting of uses on "Just Test" server, we have redditWizards that is claiming im being sexual and perverted and DoS attacking him going on and on, he claims im using YOU (meow.minetest.net) servers to Dos attack him.
20:04 gold_digger i want to get his details from lag01 or the server to report this to the police,, the harrasment has been going on for months now, and I am finally fed up and want him delt with for this seriousness.
20:05 sfan5 if he has a problem with traffic coming for my vps he should speak to me
20:05 gold_digger sfan5: he always claims i am you on there abusing people.
20:05 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:05 ElectronLibre This server is a mess...
20:05 sfan5 then tell him that he's wrong
20:05 gold_digger sfan5: ive asked him to report me to the forum and he wont,, hes just spreading lies to get people to be unhappy with me.
20:05 ElectronLibre Just ignore them..
20:05 sfan5 and contact the just test admin
20:06 gold_digger ElectronLibre: how can you ignore with no ignore button , hes on just test now,, go have a look.
20:06 gold_digger lag01 / lag is never on.
20:06 gold_digger he never blocks,
20:06 gold_digger i want his ISP details so i can personaly sort this out now.
20:06 ElectronLibre Honestly I've never heard anything good about Just Test.
20:06 gold_digger every evening after work im playing and he just continues to harass.
20:07 ElectronLibre It's a pit filled with all kind of bad things you could imagine in minetest.
20:07 xenkey ElectronLibre: l-like lua?
20:08 ElectronLibre I'm thinking of things related to players.
20:08 sfan5 gold_digger: anyway, the police probably won't care about someone being harassed in a game also you can't sort it out with him personally even if you have his ISPs details
20:08 gold_digger ive been on there 3 years, generally fine, but this guy is so abusive, and personally attacking me.
20:08 sfan5 his isp won't give you his address / phone number or anything
20:08 xenkey You could get it yourself
20:09 gold_digger fine, then i will contact a lawyer to demand the information. just want lag to keep hold of it waiting.
20:09 sfan5 lel a lawyer
20:09 ElectronLibre gold_digger: Ah ah. You not serious?
20:09 sfan5 gold_digger: the ISP won't give a shit unless you come to them with a court order
20:09 ElectronLibre No, really, you're going to seriously believe someone who arrasses you on "Just Test"?
20:10 sfan5 and good luck convincing a court that you need some persons personal details because he has been harassing you in an online game
20:10 gold_digger ElectronLibre: this guy is not stopping, and yes, im going to make a point of being very serious about this.
20:10 xenkey Yup
20:11 ElectronLibre gold_digger: Contact the admin, and ask to make this guy shut up/ban him and that's it.
20:12 ElectronLibre Or find a better server.
20:12 Sketch2 and if the admin ignores you, go to a server where the admin cares
20:12 sfan5 !server just test
20:12 MinetestBot sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 27/78, 18/36 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 37ms
20:12 sfan5 !server players:most
20:12 MinetestBot sfan5: MINETEST ITALIA SERVER SURVIVAL | 176.31.162.215 | Clients: 30/50, 30/47 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest | Ping: 7ms
20:16 gold_digger i get that,, ignore him, move server, play else where,, but thats not a way to sort this out,, ive made friends and a lot of land there.  i dont walk away from bullies. and we shouldnt need to.
20:16 gold_digger its a childrens server, and hes putting chests near spawn with "Clit" in the name  "gold_digger_clitjob" and so on.
20:16 gold_digger I can't seem to PM lag01 on forums, no idea why,,
20:16 sfan5 just talk to the admin somehow
20:17 sfan5 we can't solve your problem
20:17 ElectronLibre Ask the admin.
20:17 ElectronLibre I don't even know if there's a proper moderation system on Just Test but there is obviously an admin (the hoster).
20:19 xenkey lol
20:19 gold_digger all starts because 3 months ago he thinks ive dos attacked him off the web from meow.minetest.net, he claims ive used vpn to access your servers and attack him.
20:19 xenkey And why would children file lawsuits
20:19 xenkey Did you read what you even put
20:20 gold_digger I am 40 years old. i mean children use that server.
20:20 xenkey Oh jesus
20:20 xenkey Here's how I'd solve it
20:20 xenkey Insult him.
20:20 xenkey That's it
20:20 xenkey That's all it's worth
20:21 ElectronLibre Even though he indeed doesn't deserve more attention than some insults I don't think it will surely work.
20:21 xenkey Did he ever steal money/personal information/data or cause injury/loss of anything ?
20:21 ElectronLibre Contacting the admin is probably the only solution I see.
20:21 gold_digger xenkey: thats what he wants,, hes not doing anything, just wants attention,, im sure hes getting excited from it,, but i want some action done now that will shock him into reality.
20:21 ElectronLibre Don't give him.
20:22 ElectronLibre In the worst case possible he just wants them to attack you.
20:22 xenkey Reality
20:22 Sketch2 save screenshots of what he's said to you, then post them on the forums
20:22 xenkey Looks like you need a dose of reality
20:22 Sketch2 if they are that serious
20:22 xenkey No I think the best idea would be to go to a lawyer right away
20:22 xenkey Sew this guy for all he's got
20:22 xenkey It's a horrific crime
20:22 ElectronLibre They would laugh at his face.
20:22 xenkey He should be behind bars
20:23 xenkey ^
20:23 xenkey Exactly
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20:23 ElectronLibre No lawyer is ever going to take seriously someone who he's harrassed in a videogame with so little evidences.
20:24 ElectronLibre That's just not going to happen, contact the admin, and get this person banned. That's it.
20:24 VanessaE "But...he told me to go to hell!"  "Well, I checked the law on that, and you don't have to go."
20:24 Sketch2 lmao, that's great
20:24 VanessaE (Robert Tyre Jones, Jr. when he was practicing law)
20:24 ElectronLibre (And strangely that's from Just Test..)
20:24 Sketch2 he coulda been talking about the nether mod
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20:30 Sketch2 people are pretty crunchy at times.  ever watch Willy Wonka?
20:30 Sketch2 perfect place, all the kids are rotten
20:30 Sketch2 you'll never get away from that
20:30 Sketch2 it's bound to happen.  deal with it
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20:59 VanessaE someone in minetest HAS to make this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpbo25iBvfU
21:00 sfan5 !title
21:00 MinetestBot sfan5: MINECRAFT CAKE VILLAGE How To Cook That Ann Reardon - YouTube
21:00 VanessaE it's a chocolate cake base with lots and lots of little fudge cubes (I think, I have sound turned off) for the terrain
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21:00 sfan5 sounds like a lot of work
21:06 gold_digger VanessaE: and I thought i wasted my time building inside minetest. here shes spending 10x building her real life version :)
21:06 VanessaE hehe yep
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21:27 * Sketch2 thinks the word "granted" should be taken out of that statement.
21:38 Sketch2 Ok, I'm slightly confused by this irrmesh format
21:40 Sketch2 you specify X, Y, Z, then normals for X, Y, Z, then color as ARGB, then your U,V coords for texturespace
21:41 Sketch2 that's fine, but why specify vertex color if you get color information from a seperate texture file?
21:41 Sketch2 It seems to me you would need one or the other, not both
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22:42 luizrpgluiz in which the file is hosted pvp code of minetest?
22:45 freelikegnu https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=pvp
22:47 Sketch2 I think some is in   minetest/src/client.cpp   and some is in   minetest/src/server.cpp
22:48 Sketch2 what were you planning on doing with it?
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22:49 Sketch2 most of the code keeps track of how damage is dealt, but you might look into the fleshy damage of items as well
22:50 betterthanyou13 hi
22:50 Sketch2 hi 13
22:50 luizrpgluiz I wanted to make a code that activates the pvp in a certain area
22:50 betterthanyou13 yo ima use iracha
22:51 betterthanyou13 nvm
22:51 luizrpgluiz ?
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22:51 betterthanyou13 yo
22:52 DI3HARD139 sup
22:52 Sketch2 that's interesting.  I was actually talking about something similar to this the other day
22:52 betterthanyou13 to what?
22:53 betterthanyou13 i waz just playin on storms econemy server
22:53 betterthanyou13 where did he go off to
22:53 Sketch2 because I was thinking it would be nice if your weapon was more powerful at home
22:53 betterthanyou13 oh
22:53 betterthanyou13 nvm
22:54 Sketch2 and enemies weapons would be less effeective at killing you in your own home
22:54 swift110-phone Hey all
22:54 Sketch2 home team advantage
22:54 betterthanyou13 die how do i get to iracha
22:54 Sketch2 it's another server
22:54 betterthanyou13 can u give me the link?
22:54 betterthanyou13 rly?
22:54 betterthanyou13 hm
22:54 Sketch2 inchra.net (176.9.29.178) port 6667
22:55 DI3HARD139 if freenode allows of it then: /connect irc.inchra.net/6667 then /join #minetest
22:55 betterthanyou13 naw it doesent allow
22:55 Sketch2 what IRC client are you using?
22:55 DI3HARD139 then ull have to move to kiwiirc or use xchat or hexchat
22:55 DI3HARD139 freenode webchat
22:55 betterthanyou13 im using freenode
22:56 * DI3HARD139 uses hexchat
22:56 betterthanyou13 how do i get it that way it shows in minetest
22:56 luizrpgluiz hummm,linux sistem?
22:56 betterthanyou13 ya
22:56 Sketch2 no, not what server, but what program are you using to connect?
22:56 betterthanyou13 wat u mean?
22:56 betterthanyou13 r other ppl reading this?
22:56 Sketch2 xChat, mIRC... what's the name of the program you are using
22:57 betterthanyou13 web irc
22:57 betterthanyou13 im using the internet
22:57 Sketch2 oh.
22:57 betterthanyou13 wat should i use
22:57 betterthanyou13 brb
22:58 Sketch2 that might be ok, but instead of connecting to freenode, connect to incra.net
22:58 DI3HARD139 unless Im missing something then inchra doesnt have a webchat plugin
22:59 betterthanyou13 is it a website?
23:00 betterthanyou13 or do i have to download somethin
23:00 Sketch2 http://chat.redenorte.net  type inchra.net into the server name
23:00 betterthanyou13 k
23:00 DI3HARD139 u can if u want. other wise a common webclient is: https://kiwiirc.com/client​/irc.inchra.net/#minetest
23:00 Sketch2 channel  #minetest
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23:01 Sketch2 yeah, that would do as well
23:01 betterthanyou13 do u mean the webchat name
23:02 betterthanyou13 k im tryin kiwi
23:02 betterthanyou13 how do i talk on kiwi
23:02 betterthanyou13 i just saw wat die said
23:03 DI3HARD139 just type in the bar thats at the bottom of the page and hit enter
23:03 betterthanyou13 nvm
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23:42 Testman hi oldcoder
23:43 Testman hi all
23:43 OldCoder Testman, Hi
23:43 Testman hi
23:43 Testman did you see my castle that i biult on lott?
23:43 Testman i didint finish it though
23:44 Testman also there was a teleporter to get thier but now it is gone.

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