Time  Nick          Message
00:02 aerth         awesome
00:25 aerth         what determines the order on my game's public server list
00:28 est31         lotsa things
00:32 aerth         btw using the areas mod, why can miners still mine protected named areas
00:41 est31         perhaps you give miners the areas priv??
00:41 est31         only give them the protect priv
00:55 aerth         ah thanks
00:56 aerth         duh
00:59 aerth         works great now
00:59 aerth         (Cascadia Mine)
03:10 MinetestBot   02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix 0.4.11 githash for android 137217fd3 http://git.io/vOTTb (152015-07-31T04:51:57+02:00)
06:27 JBB           Hi
07:03 RicePancake25 Is there a way to detect if a certain metadata value has changed? Something similar to on_metadata_inventory_move, but for other meta values
07:07 cornernote    RicePancake25, when you change the meta data, just compare the new data against the old data
07:09 RicePancake25 I'm changing the metadata from an ABM though, how would I do that?
07:16 cornernote    just before you set the metadata, read it... and check if its different
07:22 RicePancake25 ok thanks
07:23 Krock         moin
07:38 RicePancake25 How do you log something to the minetest console?
07:40 cornernote    minetest.log('action','your text here')
07:40 est31         RicePancake25, print("hi, RicePancake25")
07:40 est31         or minetest.log, its more proper
07:40 cornernote    print works too? nice
07:40 RicePancake25 cool, thanks
07:40 phantombeta   Heya...
07:40 phantombeta   Anyone here knows any channels for game development?
07:40 cornernote    #minetest ?
07:40 cornernote    :)
07:41 Krock         or os.execute("cmd /k echo "..text)
07:44 RicePancake25 How can you get the meta of surrounding blocks
07:44 RicePancake25 like
07:44 RicePancake25 Let's say I have the pos of a random block somewher
07:44 RicePancake25 How can I get the other positions of the ones surrounding
07:44 cornernote    use a for loop and get all the surrounding pos
07:45 RicePancake25 {pos.x + 1, pos.y, pos.z}
07:45 RicePancake25 is that valid?
07:45 Krock         Do you mean by surrounding all 27 - 1 nodes or just thpose in the 6 directios?
07:45 RicePancake25 6 directions
07:45 cornernote    {x=pos.x+1,y=pos.y,z=pos.z}
07:46 RicePancake25 oh I see.
07:46 RicePancake25 Thanks
07:48 Krock         RicePancake25, http://pastebin.com/zDmE9R0B
07:49 RicePancake25 Thanks :D
07:49 Krock         uh. found a typo in line 10, 'table' should be 'v'
07:50 RicePancake25 ah lol
07:58 * Krock       troutslaps phantombeta
07:58 phantombeta   Krock: ?
08:00 Krock         phantombeta, for intallin Win10. Mozilla, as example, wrote an email to the CEO to get a better default browser support.
08:04 phantombeta   Krock: I didn't install it...
08:04 phantombeta   I will, though.
08:05 Krock         Oh well, I thought you did. - phantombeta quit (Quit: Updating to Windows 10)
08:05 phantombeta   Oh
08:05 phantombeta   I had to stop the installation
08:05 Calinou       upgrade to GNU/Linux :)
08:06 phantombeta   My mouse doubleclicked on the step where you choose if it keep files, files and programs or neither...
08:06 Krock         Calinou, that's not an upgrate
08:06 phantombeta   Calinou: No.
08:06 Calinou       I would call MIME type support, POSIX compliance and standard UNIX shell an upgrade
08:06 phantombeta   Calinou: I haven't found any IDE that is as complete and powerful as VS
08:07 ruskie        isn't there vs for linux now or due soon?
08:07 Calinou       sure, you need VS to code Minetest mods /s
08:07 Calinou       ruskie, it's only Visual Studio Code
08:07 Calinou       a proprietary Atom-based editor
08:10 phantombeta   I actually haven't touched minetest in a while...
08:12 MinetestBot   02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: speed up rebuild, and prevent race condition fail 13e29b61e http://git.io/vOTbl (152015-07-31T10:12:20+02:00)
08:25 cornernote    i'd like to add teleports/portals to skyblock, is there a mod that will help with this ?
08:35 Krock         !mod teleporters
08:35 MinetestBot   Krock: travelnet teleporters/bookmarks [travelnet] by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877
08:36 Krock         uh, not this one
08:37 Krock         !mod [teleporters]
08:37 MinetestBot   Krock: Teleporters (linking finally updated) [teleporters] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3631
08:37 Krock         cornernote ^
09:02 JamesTait     Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy System Administrator Appreciation Day! 😃
09:02 est31         are freenode staffers system administrators too?
09:10 RicePancake25 What does get_stack return if the inventory slot is empty?
09:11 est31         empty string?
09:14 RicePancake25 Alright, thanks lol
09:15 CWz           VanessaE: are you around?
09:21 JamesTait     est31, some of us are, but not for freenode (at least I don't think so). There's a separate infrastructure team for that.
09:25 Krock         I'm also a system administrator :D
09:26 * sfan5       throws Linux at Krock
09:26 * Krock       gets some matches and uses them on Linux
09:32 aerth         is there a way to bind multiple worlds on one ip / port ? for example like apache or nginx has virtualhosts? I want to have subdomains for different worlds
09:33 est31         aerth, nope.
09:33 aerth         :(
09:33 est31         subdomains are done with the HOST line of HTTP
09:34 est31         just make a different port per server
09:34 aerth         i just deployed 4 servers 4 ports. !!
09:35 aerth         thanks
09:52 aerth         nginx reverse proxy sub.domain.com:30000 > realdomain:30001
09:54 est31         well that wont work
09:55 aerth         i guess not
09:55 aerth         maybe something else .. later y'all
09:56 sfan5         aerth: minetest does not use http, using nginx to proxy something obviously won't work
10:16 cornernote    anyone have any idea why my icon in unified inventory doesnt have a border? http://screencast.com/t/fQfAxyDm7pI
10:18 Krock         too big image?
10:19 Krock         make the white part transparent. I think the image "overrides" the button
10:34 TBC_x         http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SQLite-Release-Micro-Opts
15:07 bluegreen     #2977
15:58 Marq_         Hi miners
15:58 Marq_         in mining for different ores
15:59 Marq_         i was wondering about different methods and their efficiencies
15:59 Marq_         how do you mine?
16:00 bluegreen     down
16:00 bluegreen     and use the telenet mod
16:00 Marq_         down yeah haha
16:00 bluegreen     1x1 hole
16:01 Marq_         ok
16:01 bluegreen     I have bones disabled in a way so that i don't losse my stufff when i die
16:02 Marq_         i thought more in, just mine down in a square about 8x8
16:02 habs          How can I tell objectively if minetest is being accelerated by my graphics card or not?
16:02 Marq_         but maybe is better to mine in holes where i found already ores previous
16:03 Calinou       digging straight down is fairly dangerous, just be prepared to do /home in case you fall in lava
16:03 Calinou       don't do it on a laggy server :)
16:03 bluegreen     also on singleplayer i just do /giveme default:diamonds  -1
16:04 bluegreen     Calinou i mostly play on craig's server
16:04 Marq_         yeah but i try to play without cheating
16:04 Marq_         what does the telenet mod?
16:04 bluegreen     I adds teleporters
16:05 bluegreen     It*
16:05 bluegreen     your can create a teleporter network
16:05 bluegreen     for your mine
16:05 Marq_         that means i have to get firstly get down?
16:06 bluegreen     you need mese first though
16:06 bluegreen     yes
16:06 Marq_         and it makes it easy to transport stuff out
16:06 bluegreen     place one on the surface
16:06 bluegreen     than dig down
16:06 bluegreen     find a nice place
16:06 bluegreen     get ores
16:06 bluegreen     place an other teleporter
16:07 bluegreen     go to surface
16:07 Marq_         within the mods i thought more about a mod which could tell me something like "there is a big chance to find ore x here, within 10 nodes"
16:08 Marq_         as a solutions
16:09 Marq_         i mean, i'm looking for a solution which tells me, where i have to search and mine for ore, not for make mining easier, do you understand the difference?
16:10 bluegreen     kind of
16:14 Marq_         something like a dowsing mod :P
16:27 Inocudom      Them Inklings: https://youtu.be/0dec0sLvmos
16:28 Inocudom      Thwy are cute little beings, aren't they? However, could they also be a reference to the infamous black goo?
16:30 Inocudom      Speaking of Inklings, I found a couple of skins based on them for Minecraft and asked addi to add them to Minetest's skins database: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=185795#p185795
16:33 Inocudom      Here is a more detailed look at those skins: http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/     http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-female-inkling/
16:35 Inocudom      VanessaE: Does that wardrobe have a skins catalog exclusive to your servers? If so, could you add those two inkling skins to it?
16:36 Inocudom      People actually do play on your basic + server, you know. Doesn't it feel good to know that people are playing on your servers again, just like in the good old days?
16:43 bluegreen     #2977
16:48 VanessaE      Inocudom: actually the wardrobe just has a "standard" set of skins; I don't use anything specific on my server for it.  Rather. I use player_textures mod for that.
16:49 VanessaE      and I am sure glad people are playing there again.
16:51 Inocudom      VanessaE: Could you add those two inkling skins to the player_textures mod?
16:52 VanessaE      player_textures loads skins by filename, i.e. player_Inocudom.png for example.  So it's not something I need to "add to it" as such.  rather if a player wants it, I save a copy in the relevant directory named for that user.
16:53 VanessaE      I was thinking of changing the homedecor wardrobe to pull whatever it can from a central folder and let just anyone choose what they want, instead of having the 10 standard skins.
16:54 Inocudom      Yeah, I was thinking that too, VanessaE.
16:56 Inocudom      Well, I would like to have this skin as my in-game one on all of your servers: http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/
16:56 Jordach       ಠ_à²
16:56 Jordach       you might be a grown man, but i won't stop you
16:57 Inocudom      I am a grown man, and that Inkling is a boy. He is so cute and I want to look just like him.
16:57 Jordach       ಠ_à²
16:58 sfan5         (ಠʖಠ)
16:58 VanessaE      Inocudom: ok, got it.  cropped to 64x32/1.0 format and saved in my staging area.
16:59 sfan5         semi-related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAy-0D3rnfc
17:00 Inocudom      That's a 1.8+ Only Skin 64x64. It should be possible to edit it so that it works in Minetest. Just make sure that none of the parts are missing, you know, like will all other textures that people request.
17:01 Jordach       https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/genders.lua
17:01 Jordach       https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/player.lua
17:01 Jordach       which supports that new format since ever
17:01 Jordach       also saves the model format to a file for later logins
17:02 VanessaE      you should port that code to the player_textures mod then
17:02 Jordach       i tried canvas detection before
17:02 Jordach       didn't work as often as hoped
17:02 Jordach       fine
17:02 Inocudom      Not very fond of that remix of that song, but here's a gmod video of the squid sisters for your efforts that I found: https://youtu.be/pSU6voiICVI
17:02 VanessaE      all you gotta do is read the horizontal and vertical resolutions from the file (see signs_lib for relevant code).
17:02 Jordach       VanessaE, custom player textures never worked right
17:03 VanessaE      divide horiz / vert and if the result is not 1.0, it's a 1.8 skin
17:03 VanessaE      er if the result IS 1.0
17:04 Krock         Style error! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=162993#p162993
17:04 Jordach       holy shit
17:06 Jordach       uhm, VanessaE there is a reason why i made it like that
17:06 Jordach       default overrides the main function that changes model
17:06 Jordach       when both mods try to set a model - the default one is applied first
17:06 Jordach       you've got a race condition
17:09 UltimateNate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsYTj9kCHE
17:10 VanessaE      simple solution: hard-depend on default, use player override to change the model
17:10 Jordach       VanessaE, race condition again
17:10 Inocudom      VanessaE, did you make sure that the acadia and pine biomes appear in the maps of your servers? The base+ players would find them very enjoyable.
17:10 Jordach       if it even replaces it - default will wreck that change
17:11 Inocudom      Can't it just create the biomes in new chunks and leave the rest of the maps be?
17:11 VanessaE      Inocudom: I don't pay much attention to that, except to make moretrees use the default nodes for those.  I've seen pines and acacias in VE-Basic at least, but how many of those were planted by players versus spawned at mapgen time, idk.
17:12 VanessaE      Jordach: I'm sure something can be worked out.  why not submit a change to minetest_game to get autodetection and 1.8 support added in?
17:12 Inocudom      They must have gotten them from a shop?
17:12 Jordach       VanessaE, https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/commit/5d1a9896bc4f81e0b0e2b51e856b35eb064bb187
17:12 Jordach       it's been here for ages
17:12 VanessaE      Inocudom: beats me, probably I or one of my admins gave some out.
17:12 Jordach       it even detects player_textures existence
17:13 VanessaE      Jordach: I was talking about generic, mod-usable support
17:13 Jordach       VanessaE, it's possible to extend that framework in that fork
17:13 * VanessaE    shrugs
17:13 VanessaE      -
17:14 Jordach       gimme five minutes and i'll update it
17:16 VanessaE      I just meant auto-detect (server-side) the skin format by computing the aspect ratio, and activate the appropriate model.  default 1.0-compatible model + Sam II skin if 1.8-detection fails.
17:16 VanessaE      have a client-side auto-detect added as well, in the case of a client-side texture pack that supplies a skin of a different format than the one the server wants to use
17:18 VanessaE      and none of that male/female shit.  leave that to the skin mod to handle.
17:24 Calinou       male/female/cyborg is way better gender selectiohn
17:24 Calinou       -h
17:24 Calinou       I want to be a cyborg :'(
17:24 Jordach       https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/commit/edde5db0cd76d4f3f3ce3d373913eb371c6b1865
17:25 Jordach       VanessaE, download that and replace player.lua and install genders.lua (and add a dofile for genders.lua)
17:25 rom1504       Calinou: are you genre cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25 rom1504       *are you sure
17:25 rom1504       oh wow wtf
17:25 Krock         Calinou, why a cyborg?
17:25 rom1504       * Calinou: are you sure cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25 Calinou       Krock, Quake 2 reference
17:25 Calinou       you can choose either male, female or cyborg
17:26 Krock         uh okay
17:27 Jordach       heh, my player model framework is expandable to other types of models
17:28 TBC_x         my Quake 3 favorite character is orbb
17:28 Jordach       you only need to add a definition under player.lua and create a command for switching
17:36 est31         I don't see a penis for the default player, there is no indication it is male. I don't think we need one with prominent female features. If, we need to make people be abled to chose their skin color, thats obviously something you can't get neutral. Also, it could force little girls to think that in order to be accepted by society, they need to have special "girly" attributes. Better is a chosing screen where they can chose their skin, don't label the
17:36 est31         default skin as male. Its unimportant what players want to be, its important what they want to look like.
17:38 nrzkt         i'm a penis
17:39 nrzkt         oh no god somebody hijacked me :D
17:39 TBC_x         I doubt it
17:39 nrzkt         xD
17:40 TBC_x         http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6tw3hlytE1r8ououo1_500.jpg
17:40 Krock         [off] nrzkt, wrong verb, it's "I have", not "I'm"
17:40 TBC_x         I doubt it
17:41 nrzkt         Krock, no error in what i said :p
17:41 Krock         nrzkt, oh well then, how can you write so fast? :P
17:42 nrzkt         two balls and a penis xD
17:42 nrzkt         drinking is bad little guys, don't drink :p
17:42 TBC_x         I realized
17:44 nrzkt         est31, why 31 ?
17:45 est31         31 has all bits :)
17:45 TBC_x         because we 31 times told you to stop talking on IRC when you're drunk
17:46 est31         lol
17:46 est31         you cant develop the make build system for android without being drunk
17:46 est31         so much ugliness :D
17:47 est31         and bugs
17:47 TBC_x         just call a shellscript
17:47 est31         99% of that file is a shellscript
17:48 TBC_x         it looks like a makefile
18:18 proller       https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft  - they use bots to increase play rating
18:27 nrzkt         oh they use freeminer instead of minetest now ? xD
18:27 proller       тщ
18:27 proller       no
18:27 proller       modified mt
18:27 celeron55_    i'm at assembly summer (assembly.org) now, if someone's interested
18:28 celeron55_    (pribably not, but therr you have it anyways)
18:28 celeron55_    probably*
18:28 Calinou       MOV ASSEMBLY TRASH;
18:28 proller       https://play.google.com/store/people/details?id=103963557564192913718 - true bot
18:28 Calinou       very nice button effects on that site btw
18:28 nrzkt         proller: but in the screen we see freeminer :p
18:29 celeron55_    this is 600km closer to civilization than my usual location!
18:30 nrzkt         proller: screens are a pure copy of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freeminer.freeminermt
18:30 proller       https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft
18:38 hmmmm         heh
18:38 hmmmm         so celeron is at assembly
18:38 hmmmm         anybody here attending defcon?
18:39 hmmmm         it's gonna start next thursday
18:39 hmmmm         and tomorrow is black hat but nobody really goes there
18:40 VanessaE      wow, I remember when Assembly had a retro-computing focus.  guess it's changed a bit :)
18:41 celeron55_    i'm here mostly for the robot combat because i have two robots in dire need of destroyment
18:41 celeron55_    and yes, assembly is quite esportsy these days
18:42 celeron55_    i just watched some starcraft 2 matches 8)
18:45 Jordach       celeron55_, uwot
18:45 Jordach       [off] any koreans
18:50 Inocudom      Who wants to watch a funny LoL rage video: https://youtu.be/PvyD_8TgvXw     https://youtu.be/ackUAuI5Mec
18:53 Inocudom      But, you see, that's what happens when you get a gods vs. noobs division in an online game.
19:20 CWz_          hey VanessaE
19:21 VanessaE      hi
19:27 Inocudom      Jordach: I went and placed those two inkling skins into the player_textures folder in BFD. The boy inkling texture that I am using loads, but it doesn not look right. It is a 1.8 skin, which I thought BFD supported.
19:28 Jordach       Inocudom, use /player_cloth
19:28 Jordach       the autodetection didn't work that often
19:30 Inocudom      It works now. Thank you Jordach.
19:30 Jordach       it apparently auto-remembers, but i'm not sure if that works
19:32 Inocudom      Looks like you still need a way to factor in cape with the 1.8 skins, Jordach. Currently, the cape shows up with the texture of the lower back layer.
19:50 CWz           The drama train known as #minetest inchra is making lots of stops on the way
19:51 brothersome   Is there an admin of linuxgaming listening here?
19:59 CWz           I think we need to trip the "fat" in #minetest on inchra.net. just way to many server and too much drama.
20:00 bluegreen     I agree
20:00 CWz           I wonder what VanessaE thinks about that.
20:01 * VanessaE    shrugs
20:01 VanessaE      there really isn't all that much from the other servers, seems mostly to come from VE-Basic :P
20:02 CWz           VanessaE:  there was utter chaos a few minutes ago. across multiple servers.
20:02 VanessaE      welcome to the wonderful world of hosting popular servers :P
20:04 brothersome   Multiple server ah, i know that linuxgaming.us has crashed
20:05 VanessaE      idk about linuxgaming.us at all
20:06 CWz           soon there so much server on inchra that VanessaE will have to invest to time-scale glasses to see what being say before it passes into the "Oblivion Zone"
20:06 bluegreen     lol
20:07 bluegreen     true
20:08 bluegreen     If someone floods one server all the server are unusable
20:10 CWz           Good thing inchra doesn't have voice chat. othe wise  it will be like a Justin beaver concert full of screaming Nitwits. and sounds of bottles impacting the stage as well as a admins screaming back
20:10 bluegreen     LOL
20:11 bluegreen     how very true
20:43 bluegreen     so nayncat_rainbows can be crafted
20:43 luizrpgluiz   hello, I hope some day our minetest the doll can sense ambient temperature :)
20:44 bluegreen     https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:47 bluegreen     why is the rainbow block not in craft guide?
20:57 bluegreen     https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:58 bluegreen     I wonder how many people that download that used it without /giveme or creative
21:06 xfceKris      Anyone been on Dan's Carbone server lately?
21:18 luizrpgluiz   as I put in the trunk protected privilege to somentes admins open it?
21:19 luizrpgluiz   if there is use of hacks on the server?
21:25 bluegreen     luizrpgluiz what do you mean?
21:27 luizrpgluiz   bluegreen:I was wondering if you can change the default protected from the chest to the server admins can see what other players have it
21:27 VanessaE      I think he means someone was able to place a tree trunk in a protected area, and wonders if that was due to a hacked client or privilege escalation exploit of some kind
21:27 VanessaE      OH that kind of trunk
21:27 VanessaE      he is referring to an irritating feature of locked chests where only the owner can see inside - not even a server admin has access.
21:28 bluegreen     You can
21:28 bluegreen     I is simple
21:29 bluegreen     It*
21:29 VanessaE      how?
21:29 VanessaE      do tell
21:30 luizrpgluiz   I just wanted to know if it is possible to place privilege protected the chest so that the admin can view the items in case of hack server
21:31 bluegreen     https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua
21:31 bluegreen     1366
21:32 bluegreen     change the function
21:35 luizrpgluiz   ok, what line I should put the admin can look at the chest?
21:35 VanessaE      too bad the function is local, otherwise I'd hook into it with a mod.
21:36 VanessaE      I would say add a check for "basic_privs" privilege at the end of line 1367.
21:36 bluegreen     http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
21:37 bluegreen     that should work
21:37 VanessaE      yes, exactly like that
21:37 bluegreen     didn't try it yet
21:37 VanessaE      you should PR that against minetest_game, except I think you want to do NOT (server priv)
21:37 VanessaE      return false if the player shouldn't open it
21:37 bluegreen     oh yeah
21:38 bluegreen     lol
21:38 bluegreen     so this http://pastebin.com/kPk0DGv8
21:38 VanessaE      "and not"
21:39 bluegreen     lol
21:39 VanessaE      http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
21:39 VanessaE      something like that should work
21:40 * bluegreen   testing
21:40 VanessaE      not sure, I'm not well versed on using privs
21:41 aerth         wow what a good idea.i put creative mode on for a day and i'd love to see whats in everyones (probably stuffed full of diamonds) locked chests!
21:41 luizrpgluiz   did not know, I was just put that o.O
21:42 bluegreen     lol
21:43 bluegreen     if I join your server can you run /give bluegreen default:diamond -1 :)
21:46 luizrpgluiz   :D
21:46 luizrpgluiz   I apologize, it is that I'm still new to mods minetest
21:46 luizrpgluiz   ^^
21:46 bluegreen     thats one bug I don't want fixed :)
21:47 bluegreen     does the code work?
21:50 bluegreen     ahh
21:50 bluegreen     DON"T USE THE CODE!!!!
21:50 bluegreen     Nvm
21:51 bluegreen     why can't I revoke "server"  priv?
21:52 luizrpgluiz   It is that I'm worried, because there are people who can hack using items and to make sure, I wanted to see if this person really is not using illegal program
21:52 luizrpgluiz   ?
21:53 CraigyDavi    bluegreen, you're not revoking it from yourself, singleplayer or whatever "name =" is set to into minetest.conf?
21:53 luizrpgluiz   what do you mean?
21:53 bluegreen     what do you mean?
21:53 Krock         what do you mean?
21:53 CraigyDavi    what do you mean?
21:53 bluegreen     CraigyDavi
21:53 bluegreen     no I can't
21:54 bluegreen     what do you all mean?
21:54 CraigyDavi    Then I'm not sure what the problem is
21:55 bluegreen     CraigyDavi
21:55 bluegreen     I'm revoking from myself is that not allowed?
21:55 CraigyDavi    Uh, I'm not sure - but It shouldn't be a problem
21:55 bluegreen     luizrpgluiz
21:56 bluegreen     you can't check is a person using a hacked client
21:56 bluegreen     you can check however are you seeing them fly without privs
21:57 luizrpgluiz   We had a player on my server that months ago managed to fly without even having the privilege flight
21:57 bluegreen     yeah
21:57 bluegreen     thats why you have admin :)
21:57 bluegreen     admins*
21:59 bluegreen     the most they can do is fly ,noclip and if you don't have anti-cheat enabled fast
21:59 bluegreen     You can ban them when you see them
22:04 aerth         any way to lax the strict version check but keep it enabled?
22:04 bluegreen     I don't know
22:04 bluegreen     I think not
22:05 aerth         i searched for it and there was talk of it months ago but no real thing
22:08 bluegreen     well you can always modify minetest source code. :)
22:24 bluegreen     some error caused my log to get spammed
22:25 bluegreen     with the full json of the public server list
22:26 VanessaE      interesting, because one of my servers just crashed, "not enough memory"
22:27 VanessaE      well about 15 mins ago it did anyway
22:27 VanessaE      however, looks like it died while loading a mapblock or something
22:29 VanessaE      hm, no.  strike that.
22:30 bluegreen     http://pastebin.com/bSMeRaMJ
22:30 bluegreen     the debug.txt
22:30 VanessaE      weird.
22:30 bluegreen     this is not the first time
22:30 bluegreen     I happend brfore
22:31 bluegreen     also were is Line 1, Column 106559
22:31 VanessaE      nowhere :)
22:32 VanessaE      more likely that translates to char 106'559 of the json dump you got.
22:32 bluegreen     I don't think the dump should be printed to screen lol
22:33 VanessaE      I think current dev stops most such errors from making it to the screen
22:33 bluegreen     nope it doesn't
22:33 bluegreen     at least on windows it doesn't
22:35 yaman         How many more times is gold worth than stone in default minetest game, taking into account prevalence of each and depth at which they are found?
22:36 VanessaE      depends on the economy of the server - gold may be just about worthless on one server, and more valuable than the real thing on another
22:37 Inocudom      https://youtu.be/AfUwSU6Cf4w Remember this great painter?
22:37 VanessaE      yaman: but I would have to guess about 100'000 to 1.
22:38 bluegreen     can git branch names have spaces?
22:38 VanessaE      dunno
22:38 * bluegreen   checks
22:39 rom1504       bluegreen: no
22:39 * bluegreen   github is still online
22:39 * bluegreen   fetches branch
22:40 rom1504       git branch "test a" tells me the name is invalid ;)
22:41 bluegreen     let's see can github for windows handle it :)
22:41 bluegreen     the website can create a branch with a space
22:42 bluegreen     nvm
22:42 bluegreen     It replaced them with '-'
22:44 bluegreen     time to undone some commits
22:51 bluegreen     game#602
23:00 yaman         I am running a server on my computer, is it possible to restrict the server privilege of my user?
23:16 cimbakahn     Wow!  Are there actually people in this room?
23:17 cimbakahn     Hello VanessaE!  I saw some of your work on the internet.  Great job!
23:18 VanessaE      thanks :)
23:18 cimbakahn     I was on a server once and had problems there.
23:19 cimbakahn     I just wanted to create and beautify.  And a certain other person wanted to blow my creations up.
23:19 VanessaE      that's pretty common with online games
23:20 VanessaE      definitely not unique to minetest
23:20 cimbakahn     And constantly kill me so i would be respawing over and over again and would have to search all over to find my bones.
23:21 VanessaE      :(
23:21 VanessaE      that's why pvp is disabled on most of my servers
23:21 cimbakahn     Is there a server for people that just want to create things, without worrying about destruction?
23:21 VanessaE      try my Basic-plus server sometime
23:22 VanessaE      but beware that no matter where you go, there's gonna be *someone* trying to ruin peoples' creations
23:22 VanessaE      but if you use the protection features, you should be okayu
23:22 VanessaE      -u
23:23 cimbakahn     I had added some mods in my minetest.  Would i have to put in mods that match your server OR would i have to have a vanilla minetest?
23:24 cimbakahn     Does protection features always work?
23:24 luizrpgluiz   bluegreen:I tested here changing the code and the chest does not open at all
23:25 bluegreen     ?
23:25 bluegreen     do you have server privs
23:25 bluegreen     or are you owner
23:25 bluegreen     use the code from this pr
23:25 bluegreen     it works
23:25 bluegreen     https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:26 bluegreen     can yo paste the code you are using?
23:26 luizrpgluiz   yes i have a server privs
23:26 bluegreen     use the new code
23:27 aerth         thank you bluegreen
23:27 cimbakahn     What is pvp?
23:28 VanessaE      player-vs-player
23:28 bluegreen     pvp = player vs player
23:28 VanessaE      ninja'd :)
23:29 luizrpgluiz   you can again pass code, I'm using pidgin on windows
23:29 bluegreen     lol
23:29 aerth         am i doing it right:
23:29 aerth         git clone https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git;  git checkout locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:29 bluegreen     I have no idea
23:29 bluegreen     just download the zip :)
23:30 cimbakahn     So if pvp is disabled it means one player can't hurt another players character?  Is this correct?
23:30 aerth         :D
23:30 bluegreen     I'm horribly at git
23:30 luizrpgluiz   http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
23:30 bluegreen     had to revent pushed commits twice today
23:31 aerth         thats fun
23:31 luizrpgluiz   is this link that I caught your modified code
23:31 aerth         pretty sure that code did it though.
23:31 bluegreen     luizrpgluiz
23:31 bluegreen     that code is wrong
23:31 bluegreen     use that one posted by latter
23:31 aerth         because the merge (pull request) is to merge that locked_chest-bug-fixes BRANCH into with MASTER branch
23:32 bluegreen     or the one from the pr
23:32 luizrpgluiz   pr?
23:32 bluegreen     pull request
23:32 cimbakahn     Does protection features always work?
23:32 bluegreen     https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:33 bluegreen     http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
23:33 aerth         i cant clone the pull request.
23:33 aerth         i can clone your fork , and checkout your branch
23:33 aerth         just git bs
23:33 bluegreen     try wget https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game/tree/locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:34 bluegreen     :)
23:34 bluegreen     wget is a better version of git
23:34 aerth         lol
23:35 bluegreen     nvm
23:35 bluegreen     it's
23:35 bluegreen     wget https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game/archive/locked_chest-bug-fixes.zip
23:35 bluegreen     wrong url :?
23:35 aerth         heres the best way
23:36 aerth         git remote add fix https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git;git pull fix locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:36 bluegreen     here is a better way
23:36 cimbakahn     I worry about someone destroying a building that it took me so long to create, i would rather just play by myself on my own computer, and that is what i have been doing.
23:37 aerth         cimbakahn, protection features should work fine
23:37 cimbakahn     Thank you aerth!
23:37 bluegreen     rm -r ./
23:37 VanessaE      cimbakahn: that's why you use whatever protection mod the server has
23:37 VanessaE      my servers all use the Areas mod for example
23:37 cimbakahn     And Thank You VanessaE!
23:37 bluegreen     git commit -a -m 'fix all bugs'
23:38 aerth         ^ that works great
23:38 bluegreen     git push
23:38 aerth         btw im running that branch at minetest.xyz:30000
23:38 bluegreen     cool
23:38 cimbakahn     I don't know what Areas mod is but i'll take your word for it.
23:39 bluegreen     it nice to know some runs your code
23:39 VanessaE      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
23:39 * bluegreen   waits for someone to comment on https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/595
23:39 MinetestBot   02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Dungeon generation: Fix code style issues in dungeongen.cpp 13cfed682 http://git.io/vOmgJ (152015-08-01T00:37:26+01:00)
23:41 aerth         :D
23:42 bluegreen     it's going to take a long time
23:44 aerth         protected chest change works!
23:45 * bluegreen   thinks programming is x1 coding x4 debugging x7 waiting for merge
23:46 aerth         who was making the ncurses thing
23:46 aerth         wheres the link
23:47 bluegreen     I don't know
23:47 aerth         alright i will ask later
23:47 Jordach       cornernote, hnnng
23:48 Jordach       that new formspec
23:48 cimbakahn     I found cornernotes mods for unlimited locked chest, and the minetest guide very helpful.
23:48 bluegreen     https://www.google.ie/webhp?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=Agm8VfigMOmQ7Abo06bAAQ#q=site:forum.minetest.net
23:48 bluegreen     use that to search forum
23:48 bluegreen     for it
23:49 cimbakahn     Minetest is my 1st multiplayer game.  I just started a couple months ago.
23:50 bluegreen     Is this the mod https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=1207
23:50 bluegreen     found it here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10134&start=26
23:51 aerth         unified_inventory vs inventory_plus ... do they conflict?
23:51 bluegreen     here is an other on https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=1211
23:51 bluegreen     yes they do
23:51 bluegreen     just use one
23:51 aerth         people just login and change skins nonstop
23:52 bluegreen     lol
23:52 bluegreen     you can disable it if you want
23:52 aerth         no they like it
23:52 bluegreen     lol
23:52 aerth         at least everyones not sam
23:52 bluegreen     true
23:53 bluegreen     I'm often sam in diamond armor
23:53 bluegreen     :)
23:53 cimbakahn     I found mods from VanessaE and cornernote and PilzAdam very helpful.
23:54 bluegreen     https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
23:54 aerth         ^ ditto
23:54 bluegreen     I don't think anyone craft anything with this mod
23:54 bluegreen     without giveme or creative
23:57 cimbakahn     There is a beautiful house that VanessaE has that i want for myself.  It is right here ----> http://www.minetest.net/_media/minetest-screenshot-vanessa512hd-2.jpg?cache=
23:57 VanessaE      you can see that house on my creative server.
23:57 VanessaE      also HDX \o/
23:58 bluegreen     nice house
23:58 VanessaE      thanks :)
23:59 aerth         https://github.com/aerth/cannamine Cannabis Mod (Grow it, Grind it, Roll it, Heals HP when used)
23:59 aerth         working on making it standalone still
23:59 cimbakahn     Do i have to do anything special with my minetest to be compatible with your creative server?
23:59 VanessaE      aerth: heh
23:59 bluegreen     my house on craigs server is 100 node high
23:59 aerth         cimbakahn, just log in and let it load!
23:59 VanessaE      cimbakahn: you just need to have adequate RAM and patience.  it sometimes takes several tries to connect and get the world to load, due to server bugs.
23:59 bluegreen     aerth wow