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00:02 aerth awesome
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00:25 aerth what determines the order on my game's public server list
00:28 est31 lotsa things
00:32 aerth btw using the areas mod, why can miners still mine protected named areas
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00:41 est31 perhaps you give miners the areas priv??
00:41 est31 only give them the protect priv
00:55 aerth ah thanks
00:56 aerth duh
00:59 aerth works great now
00:59 aerth (Cascadia Mine)
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03:10 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix 0.4.11 githash for android 7217fd3 http://git.io/vOTTb (2015-07-31T04:51:57+02:00)
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06:27 JBB Hi
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07:03 RicePancake25 Is there a way to detect if a certain metadata value has changed? Something similar to on_metadata_inventory_move, but for other meta values
07:07 cornernote RicePancake25, when you change the meta data, just compare the new data against the old data
07:09 RicePancake25 I'm changing the metadata from an ABM though, how would I do that?
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07:16 cornernote just before you set the metadata, read it... and check if its different
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07:22 RicePancake25 ok thanks
07:23 Krock moin
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07:38 RicePancake25 How do you log something to the minetest console?
07:40 cornernote minetest.log('action','your text here')
07:40 est31 RicePancake25, print("hi, RicePancake25")
07:40 est31 or minetest.log, its more proper
07:40 cornernote print works too? nice
07:40 RicePancake25 cool, thanks
07:40 phantombeta Heya...
07:40 phantombeta Anyone here knows any channels for game development?
07:40 cornernote #minetest ?
07:40 cornernote :)
07:41 Krock or os.execute("cmd /k echo "..text)
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07:44 RicePancake25 How can you get the meta of surrounding blocks
07:44 RicePancake25 like
07:44 RicePancake25 Let's say I have the pos of a random block somewher
07:44 RicePancake25 How can I get the other positions of the ones surrounding
07:44 cornernote use a for loop and get all the surrounding pos
07:45 RicePancake25 {pos.x + 1, pos.y, pos.z}
07:45 RicePancake25 is that valid?
07:45 Krock Do you mean by surrounding all 27 - 1 nodes or just thpose in the 6 directios?
07:45 RicePancake25 6 directions
07:45 cornernote {x=pos.x+1,y=pos.y,z=pos.z}
07:46 RicePancake25 oh I see.
07:46 RicePancake25 Thanks
07:48 Krock RicePancake25, http://pastebin.com/zDmE9R0B
07:49 RicePancake25 Thanks :D
07:49 Krock uh. found a typo in line 10, 'table' should be 'v'
07:50 RicePancake25 ah lol
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07:58 * Krock troutslaps phantombeta
07:58 phantombeta Krock: ?
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08:00 Krock phantombeta, for intallin Win10. Mozilla, as example, wrote an email to the CEO to get a better default browser support.
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08:04 phantombeta Krock: I didn't install it...
08:04 phantombeta I will, though.
08:05 Krock Oh well, I thought you did. - phantombeta quit (Quit: Updating to Windows 10)
08:05 phantombeta Oh
08:05 phantombeta I had to stop the installation
08:05 Calinou upgrade to GNU/Linux :)
08:06 phantombeta My mouse doubleclicked on the step where you choose if it keep files, files and programs or neither...
08:06 Krock Calinou, that's not an upgrate
08:06 phantombeta Calinou: No.
08:06 Calinou I would call MIME type support, POSIX compliance and standard UNIX shell an upgrade
08:06 phantombeta Calinou: I haven't found any IDE that is as complete and powerful as VS
08:07 ruskie isn't there vs for linux now or due soon?
08:07 Calinou sure, you need VS to code Minetest mods /s
08:07 Calinou ruskie, it's only Visual Studio Code
08:07 Calinou a proprietary Atom-based editor
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08:10 phantombeta I actually haven't touched minetest in a while...
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08:12 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Android: speed up rebuild, and prevent race condition fail e29b61e http://git.io/vOTbl (2015-07-31T10:12:20+02:00)
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08:25 cornernote i'd like to add teleports/portals to skyblock, is there a mod that will help with this ?
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08:35 Krock !mod teleporters
08:35 MinetestBot Krock: travelnet teleporters/bookmarks [travelnet] by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877
08:36 Krock uh, not this one
08:37 Krock !mod [teleporters]
08:37 MinetestBot Krock: Teleporters (linking finally updated) [teleporters] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3631
08:37 Krock cornernote ^
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09:02 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy System Administrator Appreciation Day! 😃
09:02 est31 are freenode staffers system administrators too?
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09:10 RicePancake25 What does get_stack return if the inventory slot is empty?
09:11 est31 empty string?
09:14 RicePancake25 Alright, thanks lol
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09:15 CWz VanessaE: are you around?
09:21 JamesTait est31, some of us are, but not for freenode (at least I don't think so). There's a separate infrastructure team for that.
09:25 Krock I'm also a system administrator :D
09:26 * sfan5 throws Linux at Krock
09:26 * Krock gets some matches and uses them on Linux
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09:32 aerth is there a way to bind multiple worlds on one ip / port ? for example like apache or nginx has virtualhosts? I want to have subdomains for different worlds
09:33 est31 aerth, nope.
09:33 aerth :(
09:33 est31 subdomains are done with the HOST line of HTTP
09:34 est31 just make a different port per server
09:34 aerth i just deployed 4 servers 4 ports. !!
09:35 aerth thanks
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09:52 aerth nginx reverse proxy sub.domain.com:30000 > realdomain:30001
09:54 est31 well that wont work
09:55 aerth i guess not
09:55 aerth maybe something else .. later y'all
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09:56 sfan5 aerth: minetest does not use http, using nginx to proxy something obviously won't work
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10:16 cornernote anyone have any idea why my icon in unified inventory doesnt have a border? http://screencast.com/t/fQfAxyDm7pI
10:18 Krock too big image?
10:19 Krock make the white part transparent. I think the image "overrides" the button
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10:34 TBC_x http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news​_item&px=SQLite-Release-Micro-Opts
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15:58 Marq_ Hi miners
15:58 Marq_ in mining for different ores
15:59 Marq_ i was wondering about different methods and their efficiencies
15:59 Marq_ how do you mine?
16:00 bluegreen down
16:00 bluegreen and use the telenet mod
16:00 Marq_ down yeah haha
16:00 bluegreen 1x1 hole
16:01 Marq_ ok
16:01 bluegreen I have bones disabled in a way so that i don't losse my stufff when i die
16:02 Marq_ i thought more in, just mine down in a square about 8x8
16:02 habs How can I tell objectively if minetest is being accelerated by my graphics card or not?
16:02 Marq_ but maybe is better to mine in holes where i found already ores previous
16:03 Calinou digging straight down is fairly dangerous, just be prepared to do /home in case you fall in lava
16:03 Calinou don't do it on a laggy server :)
16:03 bluegreen also on singleplayer i just do /giveme default:diamonds  -1
16:04 bluegreen Calinou i mostly play on craig's server
16:04 Marq_ yeah but i try to play without cheating
16:04 Marq_ what does the telenet mod?
16:04 bluegreen I adds teleporters
16:05 bluegreen It*
16:05 bluegreen your can create a teleporter network
16:05 bluegreen for your mine
16:05 Marq_ that means i have to get firstly get down?
16:06 bluegreen you need mese first though
16:06 bluegreen yes
16:06 Marq_ and it makes it easy to transport stuff out
16:06 bluegreen place one on the surface
16:06 bluegreen than dig down
16:06 bluegreen find a nice place
16:06 bluegreen get ores
16:06 bluegreen place an other teleporter
16:07 bluegreen go to surface
16:07 Marq_ within the mods i thought more about a mod which could tell me something like "there is a big chance to find ore x here, within 10 nodes"
16:08 Marq_ as a solutions
16:09 Marq_ i mean, i'm looking for a solution which tells me, where i have to search and mine for ore, not for make mining easier, do you understand the difference?
16:10 bluegreen kind of
16:14 Marq_ something like a dowsing mod :P
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16:27 Inocudom Them Inklings: https://youtu.be/0dec0sLvmos
16:28 Inocudom Thwy are cute little beings, aren't they? However, could they also be a reference to the infamous black goo?
16:30 Inocudom Speaking of Inklings, I found a couple of skins based on them for Minecraft and asked addi to add them to Minetest's skins database: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=185795#p185795
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16:33 Inocudom Here is a more detailed look at those skins: http://www.planetminecraft.co​m/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/     http://www.planetminecraft.com​/skin/splatoon-female-inkling/
16:35 Inocudom VanessaE: Does that wardrobe have a skins catalog exclusive to your servers? If so, could you add those two inkling skins to it?
16:36 Inocudom People actually do play on your basic + server, you know. Doesn't it feel good to know that people are playing on your servers again, just like in the good old days?
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16:48 VanessaE Inocudom: actually the wardrobe just has a "standard" set of skins; I don't use anything specific on my server for it.  Rather. I use player_textures mod for that.
16:49 VanessaE and I am sure glad people are playing there again.
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16:51 Inocudom VanessaE: Could you add those two inkling skins to the player_textures mod?
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16:52 VanessaE player_textures loads skins by filename, i.e. player_Inocudom.png for example.  So it's not something I need to "add to it" as such.  rather if a player wants it, I save a copy in the relevant directory named for that user.
16:53 VanessaE I was thinking of changing the homedecor wardrobe to pull whatever it can from a central folder and let just anyone choose what they want, instead of having the 10 standard skins.
16:54 Inocudom Yeah, I was thinking that too, VanessaE.
16:56 Inocudom Well, I would like to have this skin as my in-game one on all of your servers: http://www.planetminecraft.co​m/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/
16:56 Jordach ಠ_ಠ
16:56 Jordach you might be a grown man, but i won't stop you
16:57 Inocudom I am a grown man, and that Inkling is a boy. He is so cute and I want to look just like him.
16:57 Jordach ಠ_ಠ
16:58 sfan5 (ಠʖಠ)
16:58 VanessaE Inocudom: ok, got it.  cropped to 64x32/1.0 format and saved in my staging area.
16:59 sfan5 semi-related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAy-0D3rnfc
17:00 Inocudom That's a 1.8+ Only Skin 64x64. It should be possible to edit it so that it works in Minetest. Just make sure that none of the parts are missing, you know, like will all other textures that people request.
17:01 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_​dig/blob/master/mods/default/genders.lua
17:01 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_​dig/blob/master/mods/default/player.lua
17:01 Jordach which supports that new format since ever
17:01 Jordach also saves the model format to a file for later logins
17:02 VanessaE you should port that code to the player_textures mod then
17:02 Jordach i tried canvas detection before
17:02 Jordach didn't work as often as hoped
17:02 Jordach fine
17:02 Inocudom Not very fond of that remix of that song, but here's a gmod video of the squid sisters for your efforts that I found: https://youtu.be/pSU6voiICVI
17:02 VanessaE all you gotta do is read the horizontal and vertical resolutions from the file (see signs_lib for relevant code).
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17:02 Jordach VanessaE, custom player textures never worked right
17:03 VanessaE divide horiz / vert and if the result is not 1.0, it's a 1.8 skin
17:03 VanessaE er if the result IS 1.0
17:04 Krock Style error! https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=162993#p162993
17:04 Jordach holy shit
17:06 Jordach uhm, VanessaE there is a reason why i made it like that
17:06 Jordach default overrides the main function that changes model
17:06 Jordach when both mods try to set a model - the default one is applied first
17:06 Jordach you've got a race condition
17:09 UltimateNate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsYTj9kCHE
17:10 VanessaE simple solution: hard-depend on default, use player override to change the model
17:10 Jordach VanessaE, race condition again
17:10 Inocudom VanessaE, did you make sure that the acadia and pine biomes appear in the maps of your servers? The base+ players would find them very enjoyable.
17:10 Jordach if it even replaces it - default will wreck that change
17:11 Inocudom Can't it just create the biomes in new chunks and leave the rest of the maps be?
17:11 VanessaE Inocudom: I don't pay much attention to that, except to make moretrees use the default nodes for those.  I've seen pines and acacias in VE-Basic at least, but how many of those were planted by players versus spawned at mapgen time, idk.
17:12 VanessaE Jordach: I'm sure something can be worked out.  why not submit a change to minetest_game to get autodetection and 1.8 support added in?
17:12 Inocudom They must have gotten them from a shop?
17:12 Jordach VanessaE, https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/com​mit/5d1a9896bc4f81e0b0e2b51e856b35eb064bb187
17:12 Jordach it's been here for ages
17:12 VanessaE Inocudom: beats me, probably I or one of my admins gave some out.
17:12 Jordach it even detects player_textures existence
17:13 VanessaE Jordach: I was talking about generic, mod-usable support
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17:13 Jordach VanessaE, it's possible to extend that framework in that fork
17:13 * VanessaE shrugs
17:13 VanessaE -
17:14 Jordach gimme five minutes and i'll update it
17:16 VanessaE I just meant auto-detect (server-side) the skin format by computing the aspect ratio, and activate the appropriate model.  default 1.0-compatible model + Sam II skin if 1.8-detection fails.
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17:16 VanessaE have a client-side auto-detect added as well, in the case of a client-side texture pack that supplies a skin of a different format than the one the server wants to use
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17:18 VanessaE and none of that male/female shit.  leave that to the skin mod to handle.
17:24 Calinou male/female/cyborg is way better gender selectiohn
17:24 Calinou -h
17:24 Calinou I want to be a cyborg :'(
17:24 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/com​mit/edde5db0cd76d4f3f3ce3d373913eb371c6b1865
17:25 Jordach VanessaE, download that and replace player.lua and install genders.lua (and add a dofile for genders.lua)
17:25 rom1504 Calinou: are you genre cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25 rom1504 *are you sure
17:25 rom1504 oh wow wtf
17:25 Krock Calinou, why a cyborg?
17:25 rom1504 * Calinou: are you sure cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25 Calinou Krock, Quake 2 reference
17:25 Calinou you can choose either male, female or cyborg
17:26 Krock uh okay
17:27 Jordach heh, my player model framework is expandable to other types of models
17:28 TBC_x my Quake 3 favorite character is orbb
17:28 Jordach you only need to add a definition under player.lua and create a command for switching
17:36 est31 I don't see a penis for the default player, there is no indication it is male. I don't think we need one with prominent female features. If, we need to make people be abled to chose their skin color, thats obviously something you can't get neutral. Also, it could force little girls to think that in order to be accepted by society, they need to have special "girly" attributes. Better is a chosing screen where they can chose their skin, don't label the
17:36 est31 default skin as male. Its unimportant what players want to be, its important what they want to look like.
17:38 nrzkt i'm a penis
17:39 nrzkt oh no god somebody hijacked me :D
17:39 TBC_x I doubt it
17:39 nrzkt xD
17:40 TBC_x http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumb​lr_m6tw3hlytE1r8ououo1_500.jpg
17:40 TBC_x I doubt it
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17:41 nrzkt Krock, no error in what i said :p
17:41 Krock nrzkt, oh well then, how can you write so fast? :P
17:42 nrzkt two balls and a penis xD
17:42 nrzkt drinking is bad little guys, don't drink :p
17:42 TBC_x I realized
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17:44 nrzkt est31, why 31 ?
17:45 est31 31 has all bits :)
17:45 TBC_x because we 31 times told you to stop talking on IRC when you're drunk
17:46 est31 lol
17:46 est31 you cant develop the make build system for android without being drunk
17:46 est31 so much ugliness :D
17:47 est31 and bugs
17:47 TBC_x just call a shellscript
17:47 est31 99% of that file is a shellscript
17:48 TBC_x it looks like a makefile
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18:18 proller https://play.google.com/store/a​pps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft  - they use bots to increase play rating
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18:27 nrzkt oh they use freeminer instead of minetest now ? xD
18:27 proller тщ
18:27 proller no
18:27 proller modified mt
18:27 celeron55_ i'm at assembly summer (assembly.org) now, if someone's interested
18:28 celeron55_ (pribably not, but therr you have it anyways)
18:28 celeron55_ probably*
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18:28 Calinou MOV ASSEMBLY TRASH;
18:28 proller https://play.google.com/store/peopl​e/details?id=103963557564192913718 - true bot
18:28 Calinou very nice button effects on that site btw
18:28 nrzkt proller: but in the screen we see freeminer :p
18:29 celeron55_ this is 600km closer to civilization than my usual location!
18:30 nrzkt proller: screens are a pure copy of https://play.google.com/store/apps/d​etails?id=org.freeminer.freeminermt
18:30 proller https://play.google.com/store/a​pps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft
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18:38 hmmmm heh
18:38 hmmmm so celeron is at assembly
18:38 hmmmm anybody here attending defcon?
18:39 hmmmm it's gonna start next thursday
18:39 hmmmm and tomorrow is black hat but nobody really goes there
18:40 VanessaE wow, I remember when Assembly had a retro-computing focus.  guess it's changed a bit :)
18:41 celeron55_ i'm here mostly for the robot combat because i have two robots in dire need of destroyment
18:41 celeron55_ and yes, assembly is quite esportsy these days
18:42 celeron55_ i just watched some starcraft 2 matches 8)
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18:45 Jordach celeron55_, uwot
18:50 Inocudom Who wants to watch a funny LoL rage video: https://youtu.be/PvyD_8TgvXw     https://youtu.be/ackUAuI5Mec
18:53 Inocudom But, you see, that's what happens when you get a gods vs. noobs division in an online game.
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19:20 CWz_ hey VanessaE
19:21 VanessaE hi
19:27 Inocudom Jordach: I went and placed those two inkling skins into the player_textures folder in BFD. The boy inkling texture that I am using loads, but it doesn not look right. It is a 1.8 skin, which I thought BFD supported.
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19:28 Jordach Inocudom, use /player_cloth
19:28 Jordach the autodetection didn't work that often
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19:30 Inocudom It works now. Thank you Jordach.
19:30 Jordach it apparently auto-remembers, but i'm not sure if that works
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19:32 Inocudom Looks like you still need a way to factor in cape with the 1.8 skins, Jordach. Currently, the cape shows up with the texture of the lower back layer.
19:50 CWz The drama train known as #minetest inchra is making lots of stops on the way
19:51 brothersome Is there an admin of linuxgaming listening here?
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19:59 CWz I think we need to trip the "fat" in #minetest on inchra.net. just way to many server and too much drama.
20:00 bluegreen I agree
20:00 CWz I wonder what VanessaE thinks about that.
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20:01 * VanessaE shrugs
20:01 VanessaE there really isn't all that much from the other servers, seems mostly to come from VE-Basic :P
20:02 CWz VanessaE:  there was utter chaos a few minutes ago. across multiple servers.
20:02 VanessaE welcome to the wonderful world of hosting popular servers :P
20:04 brothersome Multiple server ah, i know that linuxgaming.us has crashed
20:05 VanessaE idk about linuxgaming.us at all
20:06 CWz soon there so much server on inchra that VanessaE will have to invest to time-scale glasses to see what being say before it passes into the "Oblivion Zone"
20:06 bluegreen lol
20:07 bluegreen true
20:08 bluegreen If someone floods one server all the server are unusable
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20:10 CWz Good thing inchra doesn't have voice chat. othe wise  it will be like a Justin beaver concert full of screaming Nitwits. and sounds of bottles impacting the stage as well as a admins screaming back
20:10 bluegreen LOL
20:11 bluegreen how very true
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20:43 bluegreen so nayncat_rainbows can be crafted
20:43 luizrpgluiz hello, I hope some day our minetest the doll can sense ambient temperature :)
20:44 bluegreen https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:47 bluegreen why is the rainbow block not in craft guide?
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20:57 bluegreen https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:58 bluegreen I wonder how many people that download that used it without /giveme or creative
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21:06 xfceKris Anyone been on Dan's Carbone server lately?
21:18 luizrpgluiz as I put in the trunk protected privilege to somentes admins open it?
21:19 luizrpgluiz if there is use of hacks on the server?
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21:25 bluegreen luizrpgluiz what do you mean?
21:27 luizrpgluiz bluegreen:I was wondering if you can change the default protected from the chest to the server admins can see what other players have it
21:27 VanessaE I think he means someone was able to place a tree trunk in a protected area, and wonders if that was due to a hacked client or privilege escalation exploit of some kind
21:27 VanessaE OH that kind of trunk
21:27 VanessaE he is referring to an irritating feature of locked chests where only the owner can see inside - not even a server admin has access.
21:28 bluegreen You can
21:28 bluegreen I is simple
21:29 bluegreen It*
21:29 VanessaE how?
21:29 VanessaE do tell
21:30 luizrpgluiz I just wanted to know if it is possible to place privilege protected the chest so that the admin can view the items in case of hack server
21:31 bluegreen https://github.com/minetest/minetest_g​ame/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua
21:31 bluegreen 1366
21:32 bluegreen change the function
21:35 luizrpgluiz ok, what line I should put the admin can look at the chest?
21:35 VanessaE too bad the function is local, otherwise I'd hook into it with a mod.
21:36 VanessaE I would say add a check for "basic_privs" privilege at the end of line 1367.
21:36 bluegreen http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
21:37 bluegreen that should work
21:37 VanessaE yes, exactly like that
21:37 bluegreen didn't try it yet
21:37 VanessaE you should PR that against minetest_game, except I think you want to do NOT (server priv)
21:37 VanessaE return false if the player shouldn't open it
21:37 bluegreen oh yeah
21:38 bluegreen lol
21:38 bluegreen so this http://pastebin.com/kPk0DGv8
21:38 VanessaE "and not"
21:39 bluegreen lol
21:39 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
21:39 VanessaE something like that should work
21:40 * bluegreen testing
21:40 VanessaE not sure, I'm not well versed on using privs
21:41 aerth wow what a good idea.i put creative mode on for a day and i'd love to see whats in everyones (probably stuffed full of diamonds) locked chests!
21:41 luizrpgluiz did not know, I was just put that o.O
21:42 bluegreen lol
21:43 bluegreen if I join your server can you run /give bluegreen default:diamond -1 :)
21:46 luizrpgluiz :D
21:46 luizrpgluiz I apologize, it is that I'm still new to mods minetest
21:46 luizrpgluiz ^^
21:46 bluegreen thats one bug I don't want fixed :)
21:47 bluegreen does the code work?
21:50 bluegreen ahh
21:50 bluegreen DON"T USE THE CODE!!!!
21:50 bluegreen Nvm
21:51 bluegreen why can't I revoke "server"  priv?
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21:52 luizrpgluiz It is that I'm worried, because there are people who can hack using items and to make sure, I wanted to see if this person really is not using illegal program
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21:52 luizrpgluiz ?
21:53 CraigyDavi bluegreen, you're not revoking it from yourself, singleplayer or whatever "name =" is set to into minetest.conf?
21:53 luizrpgluiz what do you mean?
21:53 bluegreen what do you mean?
21:53 Krock what do you mean?
21:53 CraigyDavi what do you mean?
21:53 bluegreen CraigyDavi
21:53 bluegreen no I can't
21:54 bluegreen what do you all mean?
21:54 CraigyDavi Then I'm not sure what the problem is
21:55 bluegreen CraigyDavi
21:55 bluegreen I'm revoking from myself is that not allowed?
21:55 CraigyDavi Uh, I'm not sure - but It shouldn't be a problem
21:55 bluegreen luizrpgluiz
21:56 bluegreen you can't check is a person using a hacked client
21:56 bluegreen you can check however are you seeing them fly without privs
21:57 luizrpgluiz We had a player on my server that months ago managed to fly without even having the privilege flight
21:57 bluegreen yeah
21:57 bluegreen thats why you have admin :)
21:57 bluegreen admins*
21:59 bluegreen the most they can do is fly ,noclip and if you don't have anti-cheat enabled fast
21:59 bluegreen You can ban them when you see them
22:04 aerth any way to lax the strict version check but keep it enabled?
22:04 bluegreen I don't know
22:04 bluegreen I think not
22:05 aerth i searched for it and there was talk of it months ago but no real thing
22:08 bluegreen well you can always modify minetest source code. :)
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22:24 bluegreen some error caused my log to get spammed
22:25 bluegreen with the full json of the public server list
22:26 VanessaE interesting, because one of my servers just crashed, "not enough memory"
22:27 VanessaE well about 15 mins ago it did anyway
22:27 VanessaE however, looks like it died while loading a mapblock or something
22:29 VanessaE hm, no.  strike that.
22:30 bluegreen http://pastebin.com/bSMeRaMJ
22:30 bluegreen the debug.txt
22:30 VanessaE weird.
22:30 bluegreen this is not the first time
22:30 bluegreen I happend brfore
22:31 bluegreen also were is Line 1, Column 106559
22:31 VanessaE nowhere :)
22:32 VanessaE more likely that translates to char 106'559 of the json dump you got.
22:32 bluegreen I don't think the dump should be printed to screen lol
22:33 VanessaE I think current dev stops most such errors from making it to the screen
22:33 bluegreen nope it doesn't
22:33 bluegreen at least on windows it doesn't
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22:35 yaman How many more times is gold worth than stone in default minetest game, taking into account prevalence of each and depth at which they are found?
22:36 VanessaE depends on the economy of the server - gold may be just about worthless on one server, and more valuable than the real thing on another
22:37 Inocudom https://youtu.be/AfUwSU6Cf4w Remember this great painter?
22:37 VanessaE yaman: but I would have to guess about 100'000 to 1.
22:38 bluegreen can git branch names have spaces?
22:38 VanessaE dunno
22:38 * bluegreen checks
22:39 rom1504 bluegreen: no
22:39 * bluegreen github is still online
22:39 * bluegreen fetches branch
22:40 rom1504 git branch "test a" tells me the name is invalid ;)
22:41 bluegreen let's see can github for windows handle it :)
22:41 bluegreen the website can create a branch with a space
22:42 bluegreen nvm
22:42 bluegreen It replaced them with '-'
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22:44 bluegreen time to undone some commits
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22:51 bluegreen game#602
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23:00 yaman I am running a server on my computer, is it possible to restrict the server privilege of my user?
23:16 cimbakahn Wow!  Are there actually people in this room?
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23:17 cimbakahn Hello VanessaE!  I saw some of your work on the internet.  Great job!
23:18 VanessaE thanks :)
23:18 cimbakahn I was on a server once and had problems there.
23:19 cimbakahn I just wanted to create and beautify.  And a certain other person wanted to blow my creations up.
23:19 VanessaE that's pretty common with online games
23:20 VanessaE definitely not unique to minetest
23:20 cimbakahn And constantly kill me so i would be respawing over and over again and would have to search all over to find my bones.
23:21 VanessaE :(
23:21 VanessaE that's why pvp is disabled on most of my servers
23:21 cimbakahn Is there a server for people that just want to create things, without worrying about destruction?
23:21 VanessaE try my Basic-plus server sometime
23:22 VanessaE but beware that no matter where you go, there's gonna be *someone* trying to ruin peoples' creations
23:22 VanessaE but if you use the protection features, you should be okayu
23:22 VanessaE -u
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23:23 cimbakahn I had added some mods in my minetest.  Would i have to put in mods that match your server OR would i have to have a vanilla minetest?
23:24 cimbakahn Does protection features always work?
23:24 luizrpgluiz bluegreen:I tested here changing the code and the chest does not open at all
23:25 bluegreen ?
23:25 bluegreen do you have server privs
23:25 bluegreen or are you owner
23:25 bluegreen use the code from this pr
23:25 bluegreen it works
23:25 bluegreen https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:26 bluegreen can yo paste the code you are using?
23:26 luizrpgluiz yes i have a server privs
23:26 bluegreen use the new code
23:27 aerth thank you bluegreen
23:27 cimbakahn What is pvp?
23:28 VanessaE player-vs-player
23:28 bluegreen pvp = player vs player
23:28 VanessaE ninja'd :)
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23:29 luizrpgluiz you can again pass code, I'm using pidgin on windows
23:29 bluegreen lol
23:29 aerth am i doing it right:
23:29 aerth git clone https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git;  git checkout locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:29 bluegreen I have no idea
23:29 bluegreen just download the zip :)
23:30 cimbakahn So if pvp is disabled it means one player can't hurt another players character?  Is this correct?
23:30 aerth :D
23:30 bluegreen I'm horribly at git
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23:30 luizrpgluiz http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
23:30 bluegreen had to revent pushed commits twice today
23:31 aerth thats fun
23:31 luizrpgluiz is this link that I caught your modified code
23:31 aerth pretty sure that code did it though.
23:31 bluegreen luizrpgluiz
23:31 bluegreen that code is wrong
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23:31 bluegreen use that one posted by latter
23:31 aerth because the merge (pull request) is to merge that locked_chest-bug-fixes BRANCH into with MASTER branch
23:32 bluegreen or the one from the pr
23:32 luizrpgluiz pr?
23:32 bluegreen pull request
23:32 cimbakahn Does protection features always work?
23:32 bluegreen https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:33 bluegreen http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
23:33 aerth i cant clone the pull request.
23:33 aerth i can clone your fork , and checkout your branch
23:33 aerth just git bs
23:33 bluegreen try wget https://github.com/red-001/minetes​t_game/tree/locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:34 bluegreen :)
23:34 bluegreen wget is a better version of git
23:34 aerth lol
23:35 bluegreen nvm
23:35 bluegreen it's
23:35 bluegreen wget https://github.com/red-001/minetest_ga​me/archive/locked_chest-bug-fixes.zip
23:35 bluegreen wrong url :?
23:35 aerth heres the best way
23:36 aerth git remote add fix https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git;git pull fix locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:36 bluegreen here is a better way
23:36 cimbakahn I worry about someone destroying a building that it took me so long to create, i would rather just play by myself on my own computer, and that is what i have been doing.
23:37 aerth cimbakahn, protection features should work fine
23:37 cimbakahn Thank you aerth!
23:37 bluegreen rm -r ./
23:37 VanessaE cimbakahn: that's why you use whatever protection mod the server has
23:37 VanessaE my servers all use the Areas mod for example
23:37 cimbakahn And Thank You VanessaE!
23:37 bluegreen git commit -a -m 'fix all bugs'
23:38 aerth ^ that works great
23:38 bluegreen git push
23:38 aerth btw im running that branch at minetest.xyz:30000
23:38 bluegreen cool
23:38 cimbakahn I don't know what Areas mod is but i'll take your word for it.
23:39 bluegreen it nice to know some runs your code
23:39 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
23:39 * bluegreen waits for someone to comment on https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/595
23:39 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeon generation: Fix code style issues in dungeongen.cpp cfed682 http://git.io/vOmgJ (2015-08-01T00:37:26+01:00)
23:41 aerth :D
23:42 bluegreen it's going to take a long time
23:44 aerth protected chest change works!
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23:45 * bluegreen thinks programming is x1 coding x4 debugging x7 waiting for merge
23:46 aerth who was making the ncurses thing
23:46 aerth wheres the link
23:47 bluegreen I don't know
23:47 aerth alright i will ask later
23:47 Jordach cornernote, hnnng
23:48 Jordach that new formspec
23:48 cimbakahn I found cornernotes mods for unlimited locked chest, and the minetest guide very helpful.
23:48 bluegreen https://www.google.ie/webhp?ie=utf-8​&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=A​gm8VfigMOmQ7Abo06bAAQ#q=site:forum.minetest.net
23:48 bluegreen use that to search forum
23:48 bluegreen for it
23:49 cimbakahn Minetest is my 1st multiplayer game.  I just started a couple months ago.
23:50 bluegreen Is this the mod https://forum.minetest.net​/download/file.php?id=1207
23:50 bluegreen found it here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=10&t=10134&start=26
23:51 aerth unified_inventory vs inventory_plus ... do they conflict?
23:51 bluegreen here is an other on https://forum.minetest.net​/download/file.php?id=1211
23:51 bluegreen yes they do
23:51 bluegreen just use one
23:51 aerth people just login and change skins nonstop
23:52 bluegreen lol
23:52 bluegreen you can disable it if you want
23:52 aerth no they like it
23:52 bluegreen lol
23:52 aerth at least everyones not sam
23:52 bluegreen true
23:53 bluegreen I'm often sam in diamond armor
23:53 bluegreen :)
23:53 cimbakahn I found mods from VanessaE and cornernote and PilzAdam very helpful.
23:54 bluegreen https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
23:54 aerth ^ ditto
23:54 bluegreen I don't think anyone craft anything with this mod
23:54 bluegreen without giveme or creative
23:57 cimbakahn There is a beautiful house that VanessaE has that i want for myself.  It is right here ----> http://www.minetest.net/_media/minetes​t-screenshot-vanessa512hd-2.jpg?cache=
23:57 VanessaE you can see that house on my creative server.
23:57 VanessaE also HDX \o/
23:58 bluegreen nice house
23:58 VanessaE thanks :)
23:59 aerth https://github.com/aerth/cannamine Cannabis Mod (Grow it, Grind it, Roll it, Heals HP when used)
23:59 aerth working on making it standalone still
23:59 cimbakahn Do i have to do anything special with my minetest to be compatible with your creative server?
23:59 VanessaE aerth: heh
23:59 bluegreen my house on craigs server is 100 node high
23:59 aerth cimbakahn, just log in and let it load!
23:59 VanessaE cimbakahn: you just need to have adequate RAM and patience.  it sometimes takes several tries to connect and get the world to load, due to server bugs.
23:59 bluegreen aerth wow

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