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00:02	aerth	awesome
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00:25	aerth	what determines the order on my game's public server list
00:28	est31	lotsa things
00:32	aerth	btw using the areas mod, why can miners still mine protected named areas
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00:41	est31	perhaps you give miners the areas priv??
00:41	est31	only give them the protect priv
00:55	aerth	ah thanks
00:56	aerth	duh
00:59	aerth	works great now
00:59	aerth	(Cascadia Mine)
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03:10	MinetestBot	[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix 0.4.11 githash for android 7217fd3 http://git.io/vOTTb (2015-07-31T04:51:57+02:00)
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06:27	JBB	Hi
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07:03	RicePancake25	Is there a way to detect if a certain metadata value has changed? Something similar to on_metadata_inventory_move, but for other meta values
07:07	cornernote	RicePancake25, when you change the meta data, just compare the new data against the old data
07:09	RicePancake25	I'm changing the metadata from an ABM though, how would I do that?
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07:16	cornernote	just before you set the metadata, read it... and check if its different
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07:22	RicePancake25	ok thanks
07:23	Krock	moin
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07:38	RicePancake25	How do you log something to the minetest console?
07:40	cornernote	minetest.log('action','your text here')
07:40	est31	RicePancake25, print("hi, RicePancake25")
07:40	est31	or minetest.log, its more proper
07:40	cornernote	print works too? nice
07:40	RicePancake25	cool, thanks
07:40	phantombeta	Heya...
07:40	phantombeta	Anyone here knows any channels for game development?
07:40	cornernote	#minetest ?
07:40	cornernote	:)
07:41	Krock	or os.execute("cmd /k echo "..text)
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07:44	RicePancake25	How can you get the meta of surrounding blocks
07:44	RicePancake25	like
07:44	RicePancake25	Let's say I have the pos of a random block somewher
07:44	RicePancake25	How can I get the other positions of the ones surrounding
07:44	cornernote	use a for loop and get all the surrounding pos
07:45	RicePancake25	{pos.x + 1, pos.y, pos.z}
07:45	RicePancake25	is that valid?
07:45	Krock	Do you mean by surrounding all 27 - 1 nodes or just thpose in the 6 directios?
07:45	RicePancake25	6 directions
07:45	cornernote	{x=pos.x+1,y=pos.y,z=pos.z}
07:46	RicePancake25	oh I see.
07:46	RicePancake25	Thanks
07:48	Krock	RicePancake25, http://pastebin.com/zDmE9R0B
07:49	RicePancake25	Thanks :D
07:49	Krock	uh. found a typo in line 10, 'table' should be 'v'
07:50	RicePancake25	ah lol
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07:58	* Krock	troutslaps phantombeta
07:58	phantombeta	Krock: ?
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08:00	Krock	phantombeta, for intallin Win10. Mozilla, as example, wrote an email to the CEO to get a better default browser support.
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08:04	phantombeta	Krock: I didn't install it...
08:04	phantombeta	I will, though.
08:05	Krock	Oh well, I thought you did. - phantombeta quit (Quit: Updating to Windows 10)
08:05	phantombeta	Oh
08:05	phantombeta	I had to stop the installation
08:05	Calinou	upgrade to GNU/Linux :)
08:06	phantombeta	My mouse doubleclicked on the step where you choose if it keep files, files and programs or neither...
08:06	Krock	Calinou, that's not an upgrate
08:06	phantombeta	Calinou: No.
08:06	Calinou	I would call MIME type support, POSIX compliance and standard UNIX shell an upgrade
08:06	phantombeta	Calinou: I haven't found any IDE that is as complete and powerful as VS
08:07	ruskie	isn't there vs for linux now or due soon?
08:07	Calinou	sure, you need VS to code Minetest mods /s
08:07	Calinou	ruskie, it's only Visual Studio Code
08:07	Calinou	a proprietary Atom-based editor
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08:10	phantombeta	I actually haven't touched minetest in a while...
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08:12	MinetestBot	[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Android: speed up rebuild, and prevent race condition fail e29b61e http://git.io/vOTbl (2015-07-31T10:12:20+02:00)
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08:25	cornernote	i'd like to add teleports/portals to skyblock, is there a mod that will help with this ?
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08:35	Krock	!mod teleporters
08:35	MinetestBot	Krock: travelnet teleporters/bookmarks [travelnet] by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877
08:36	Krock	uh, not this one
08:37	Krock	!mod [teleporters]
08:37	MinetestBot	Krock: Teleporters (linking finally updated) [teleporters] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3631
08:37	Krock	cornernote ^
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09:02	JamesTait	Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy System Administrator Appreciation Day! ðŸ˜ƒ
09:02	est31	are freenode staffers system administrators too?
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09:10	RicePancake25	What does get_stack return if the inventory slot is empty?
09:11	est31	empty string?
09:14	RicePancake25	Alright, thanks lol
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09:15	CWz	VanessaE: are you around?
09:21	JamesTait	est31, some of us are, but not for freenode (at least I don't think so). There's a separate infrastructure team for that.
09:25	Krock	I'm also a system administrator :D
09:26	* sfan5	throws Linux at Krock
09:26	* Krock	gets some matches and uses them on Linux
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09:32	aerth	is there a way to bind multiple worlds on one ip / port ? for example like apache or nginx has virtualhosts? I want to have subdomains for different worlds
09:33	est31	aerth, nope.
09:33	aerth	:(
09:33	est31	subdomains are done with the HOST line of HTTP
09:34	est31	just make a different port per server
09:34	aerth	i just deployed 4 servers 4 ports. !!
09:35	aerth	thanks
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09:52	aerth	nginx reverse proxy sub.domain.com:30000 > realdomain:30001
09:54	est31	well that wont work
09:55	aerth	i guess not
09:55	aerth	maybe something else .. later y'all
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09:56	sfan5	aerth: minetest does not use http, using nginx to proxy something obviously won't work
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10:16	cornernote	anyone have any idea why my icon in unified inventory doesnt have a border? http://screencast.com/t/fQfAxyDm7pI
10:18	Krock	too big image?
10:19	Krock	make the white part transparent. I think the image "overrides" the button
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15:58	Marq_	Hi miners
15:58	Marq_	in mining for different ores
15:59	Marq_	i was wondering about different methods and their efficiencies
15:59	Marq_	how do you mine?
16:00	bluegreen	down
16:00	bluegreen	and use the telenet mod
16:00	Marq_	down yeah haha
16:00	bluegreen	1x1 hole
16:01	Marq_	ok
16:01	bluegreen	I have bones disabled in a way so that i don't losse my stufff when i die
16:02	Marq_	i thought more in, just mine down in a square about 8x8
16:02	habs	How can I tell objectively if minetest is being accelerated by my graphics card or not?
16:02	Marq_	but maybe is better to mine in holes where i found already ores previous
16:03	Calinou	digging straight down is fairly dangerous, just be prepared to do /home in case you fall in lava
16:03	Calinou	don't do it on a laggy server :)
16:03	bluegreen	also on singleplayer i just do /giveme default:diamonds -1
16:04	bluegreen	Calinou i mostly play on craig's server
16:04	Marq_	yeah but i try to play without cheating
16:04	Marq_	what does the telenet mod?
16:04	bluegreen	I adds teleporters
16:05	bluegreen	It*
16:05	bluegreen	your can create a teleporter network
16:05	bluegreen	for your mine
16:05	Marq_	that means i have to get firstly get down?
16:06	bluegreen	you need mese first though
16:06	bluegreen	yes
16:06	Marq_	and it makes it easy to transport stuff out
16:06	bluegreen	place one on the surface
16:06	bluegreen	than dig down
16:06	bluegreen	find a nice place
16:06	bluegreen	get ores
16:06	bluegreen	place an other teleporter
16:07	bluegreen	go to surface
16:07	Marq_	within the mods i thought more about a mod which could tell me something like "there is a big chance to find ore x here, within 10 nodes"
16:08	Marq_	as a solutions
16:09	Marq_	i mean, i'm looking for a solution which tells me, where i have to search and mine for ore, not for make mining easier, do you understand the difference?
16:10	bluegreen	kind of
16:14	Marq_	something like a dowsing mod :P
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16:27	Inocudom	Them Inklings: https://youtu.be/0dec0sLvmos
16:28	Inocudom	Thwy are cute little beings, aren't they? However, could they also be a reference to the infamous black goo?
16:30	Inocudom	Speaking of Inklings, I found a couple of skins based on them for Minecraft and asked addi to add them to Minetest's skins database: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=185795#p185795
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16:33	Inocudom	Here is a more detailed look at those skins: http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/ http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-female-inkling/
16:35	Inocudom	VanessaE: Does that wardrobe have a skins catalog exclusive to your servers? If so, could you add those two inkling skins to it?
16:36	Inocudom	People actually do play on your basic + server, you know. Doesn't it feel good to know that people are playing on your servers again, just like in the good old days?
16:43	bluegreen	#2977
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16:48	VanessaE	Inocudom: actually the wardrobe just has a "standard" set of skins; I don't use anything specific on my server for it. Rather. I use player_textures mod for that.
16:49	VanessaE	and I am sure glad people are playing there again.
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16:51	Inocudom	VanessaE: Could you add those two inkling skins to the player_textures mod?
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16:52	VanessaE	player_textures loads skins by filename, i.e. player_Inocudom.png for example. So it's not something I need to "add to it" as such. rather if a player wants it, I save a copy in the relevant directory named for that user.
16:53	VanessaE	I was thinking of changing the homedecor wardrobe to pull whatever it can from a central folder and let just anyone choose what they want, instead of having the 10 standard skins.
16:54	Inocudom	Yeah, I was thinking that too, VanessaE.
16:56	Inocudom	Well, I would like to have this skin as my in-game one on all of your servers: http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/splatoon-inkling-male/
16:56	Jordach	à² _à²
16:56	Jordach	you might be a grown man, but i won't stop you
16:57	Inocudom	I am a grown man, and that Inkling is a boy. He is so cute and I want to look just like him.
16:57	Jordach	à² _à²
16:58	sfan5	(à² Ê–à² )
16:58	VanessaE	Inocudom: ok, got it. cropped to 64x32/1.0 format and saved in my staging area.
16:59	sfan5	semi-related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAy-0D3rnfc
17:00	Inocudom	That's a 1.8+ Only Skin 64x64. It should be possible to edit it so that it works in Minetest. Just make sure that none of the parts are missing, you know, like will all other textures that people request.
17:01	Jordach	https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/genders.lua
17:01	Jordach	https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/player.lua
17:01	Jordach	which supports that new format since ever
17:01	Jordach	also saves the model format to a file for later logins
17:02	VanessaE	you should port that code to the player_textures mod then
17:02	Jordach	i tried canvas detection before
17:02	Jordach	didn't work as often as hoped
17:02	Jordach	fine
17:02	Inocudom	Not very fond of that remix of that song, but here's a gmod video of the squid sisters for your efforts that I found: https://youtu.be/pSU6voiICVI
17:02	VanessaE	all you gotta do is read the horizontal and vertical resolutions from the file (see signs_lib for relevant code).
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17:02	Jordach	VanessaE, custom player textures never worked right
17:03	VanessaE	divide horiz / vert and if the result is not 1.0, it's a 1.8 skin
17:03	VanessaE	er if the result IS 1.0
17:04	Krock	Style error! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=162993#p162993
17:04	Jordach	holy shit
17:06	Jordach	uhm, VanessaE there is a reason why i made it like that
17:06	Jordach	default overrides the main function that changes model
17:06	Jordach	when both mods try to set a model - the default one is applied first
17:06	Jordach	you've got a race condition
17:09	UltimateNate	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsYTj9kCHE
17:10	VanessaE	simple solution: hard-depend on default, use player override to change the model
17:10	Jordach	VanessaE, race condition again
17:10	Inocudom	VanessaE, did you make sure that the acadia and pine biomes appear in the maps of your servers? The base+ players would find them very enjoyable.
17:10	Jordach	if it even replaces it - default will wreck that change
17:11	Inocudom	Can't it just create the biomes in new chunks and leave the rest of the maps be?
17:11	VanessaE	Inocudom: I don't pay much attention to that, except to make moretrees use the default nodes for those. I've seen pines and acacias in VE-Basic at least, but how many of those were planted by players versus spawned at mapgen time, idk.
17:12	VanessaE	Jordach: I'm sure something can be worked out. why not submit a change to minetest_game to get autodetection and 1.8 support added in?
17:12	Inocudom	They must have gotten them from a shop?
17:12	Jordach	VanessaE, https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/commit/5d1a9896bc4f81e0b0e2b51e856b35eb064bb187
17:12	Jordach	it's been here for ages
17:12	VanessaE	Inocudom: beats me, probably I or one of my admins gave some out.
17:12	Jordach	it even detects player_textures existence
17:13	VanessaE	Jordach: I was talking about generic, mod-usable support
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17:13	Jordach	VanessaE, it's possible to extend that framework in that fork
17:13	* VanessaE	shrugs
17:13	VanessaE	-
17:14	Jordach	gimme five minutes and i'll update it
17:16	VanessaE	I just meant auto-detect (server-side) the skin format by computing the aspect ratio, and activate the appropriate model. default 1.0-compatible model + Sam II skin if 1.8-detection fails.
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17:16	VanessaE	have a client-side auto-detect added as well, in the case of a client-side texture pack that supplies a skin of a different format than the one the server wants to use
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17:18	VanessaE	and none of that male/female shit. leave that to the skin mod to handle.
17:24	Calinou	male/female/cyborg is way better gender selectiohn
17:24	Calinou	-h
17:24	Calinou	I want to be a cyborg :'(
17:24	Jordach	https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game/commit/edde5db0cd76d4f3f3ce3d373913eb371c6b1865
17:25	Jordach	VanessaE, download that and replace player.lua and install genders.lua (and add a dofile for genders.lua)
17:25	rom1504	Calinou: are you genre cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25	rom1504	*are you sure
17:25	rom1504	oh wow wtf
17:25	Krock	Calinou, why a cyborg?
17:25	rom1504	* Calinou: are you sure cyborg can't have many possible gender, just as human claim they do :p ?
17:25	Calinou	Krock, Quake 2 reference
17:25	Calinou	you can choose either male, female or cyborg
17:26	Krock	uh okay
17:27	Jordach	heh, my player model framework is expandable to other types of models
17:28	TBC_x	my Quake 3 favorite character is orbb
17:28	Jordach	you only need to add a definition under player.lua and create a command for switching
17:36	est31	I don't see a penis for the default player, there is no indication it is male. I don't think we need one with prominent female features. If, we need to make people be abled to chose their skin color, thats obviously something you can't get neutral. Also, it could force little girls to think that in order to be accepted by society, they need to have special "girly" attributes. Better is a chosing screen where they can chose their skin, don't label the
17:36	est31	default skin as male. Its unimportant what players want to be, its important what they want to look like.
17:38	nrzkt	i'm a penis
17:39	nrzkt	oh no god somebody hijacked me :D
17:39	TBC_x	I doubt it
17:39	nrzkt	xD
17:40	TBC_x	http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6tw3hlytE1r8ououo1_500.jpg
17:40	TBC_x	I doubt it
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17:41	nrzkt	Krock, no error in what i said :p
17:41	Krock	nrzkt, oh well then, how can you write so fast? :P
17:42	nrzkt	two balls and a penis xD
17:42	nrzkt	drinking is bad little guys, don't drink :p
17:42	TBC_x	I realized
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17:44	nrzkt	est31, why 31 ?
17:45	est31	31 has all bits :)
17:45	TBC_x	because we 31 times told you to stop talking on IRC when you're drunk
17:46	est31	lol
17:46	est31	you cant develop the make build system for android without being drunk
17:46	est31	so much ugliness :D
17:47	est31	and bugs
17:47	TBC_x	just call a shellscript
17:47	est31	99% of that file is a shellscript
17:48	TBC_x	it looks like a makefile
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18:18	proller	https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft - they use bots to increase play rating
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18:27	nrzkt	oh they use freeminer instead of minetest now ? xD
18:27	proller	Ñ‚Ñ‰
18:27	proller	no
18:27	proller	modified mt
18:27	celeron55_	i'm at assembly summer (assembly.org) now, if someone's interested
18:28	celeron55_	(pribably not, but therr you have it anyways)
18:28	celeron55_	probably*
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18:28	Calinou	MOV ASSEMBLY TRASH;
18:28	proller	https://play.google.com/store/people/details?id=103963557564192913718 - true bot
18:28	Calinou	very nice button effects on that site btw
18:28	nrzkt	proller: but in the screen we see freeminer :p
18:29	celeron55_	this is 600km closer to civilization than my usual location!
18:30	nrzkt	proller: screens are a pure copy of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freeminer.freeminermt
18:30	proller	https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft
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18:38	hmmmm	heh
18:38	hmmmm	so celeron is at assembly
18:38	hmmmm	anybody here attending defcon?
18:39	hmmmm	it's gonna start next thursday
18:39	hmmmm	and tomorrow is black hat but nobody really goes there
18:40	VanessaE	wow, I remember when Assembly had a retro-computing focus. guess it's changed a bit :)
18:41	celeron55_	i'm here mostly for the robot combat because i have two robots in dire need of destroyment
18:41	celeron55_	and yes, assembly is quite esportsy these days
18:42	celeron55_	i just watched some starcraft 2 matches 8)
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18:45	Jordach	celeron55_, uwot
18:50	Inocudom	Who wants to watch a funny LoL rage video: https://youtu.be/PvyD_8TgvXw https://youtu.be/ackUAuI5Mec
18:53	Inocudom	But, you see, that's what happens when you get a gods vs. noobs division in an online game.
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19:20	CWz_	hey VanessaE
19:21	VanessaE	hi
19:27	Inocudom	Jordach: I went and placed those two inkling skins into the player_textures folder in BFD. The boy inkling texture that I am using loads, but it doesn not look right. It is a 1.8 skin, which I thought BFD supported.
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19:28	Jordach	Inocudom, use /player_cloth
19:28	Jordach	the autodetection didn't work that often
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19:30	Inocudom	It works now. Thank you Jordach.
19:30	Jordach	it apparently auto-remembers, but i'm not sure if that works
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19:32	Inocudom	Looks like you still need a way to factor in cape with the 1.8 skins, Jordach. Currently, the cape shows up with the texture of the lower back layer.
19:50	CWz	The drama train known as #minetest inchra is making lots of stops on the way
19:51	brothersome	Is there an admin of linuxgaming listening here?
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19:59	CWz	I think we need to trip the "fat" in #minetest on inchra.net. just way to many server and too much drama.
20:00	bluegreen	I agree
20:00	CWz	I wonder what VanessaE thinks about that.
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20:01	* VanessaE	shrugs
20:01	VanessaE	there really isn't all that much from the other servers, seems mostly to come from VE-Basic :P
20:02	CWz	VanessaE: there was utter chaos a few minutes ago. across multiple servers.
20:02	VanessaE	welcome to the wonderful world of hosting popular servers :P
20:04	brothersome	Multiple server ah, i know that linuxgaming.us has crashed
20:05	VanessaE	idk about linuxgaming.us at all
20:06	CWz	soon there so much server on inchra that VanessaE will have to invest to time-scale glasses to see what being say before it passes into the "Oblivion Zone"
20:06	bluegreen	lol
20:07	bluegreen	true
20:08	bluegreen	If someone floods one server all the server are unusable
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20:10	CWz	Good thing inchra doesn't have voice chat. othe wise it will be like a Justin beaver concert full of screaming Nitwits. and sounds of bottles impacting the stage as well as a admins screaming back
20:10	bluegreen	LOL
20:11	bluegreen	how very true
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20:43	bluegreen	so nayncat_rainbows can be crafted
20:43	luizrpgluiz	hello, I hope some day our minetest the doll can sense ambient temperature :)
20:44	bluegreen	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:47	bluegreen	why is the rainbow block not in craft guide?
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20:57	bluegreen	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
20:58	bluegreen	I wonder how many people that download that used it without /giveme or creative
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21:06	xfceKris	Anyone been on Dan's Carbone server lately?
21:18	luizrpgluiz	as I put in the trunk protected privilege to somentes admins open it?
21:19	luizrpgluiz	if there is use of hacks on the server?
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21:25	bluegreen	luizrpgluiz what do you mean?
21:27	luizrpgluiz	bluegreen:I was wondering if you can change the default protected from the chest to the server admins can see what other players have it
21:27	VanessaE	I think he means someone was able to place a tree trunk in a protected area, and wonders if that was due to a hacked client or privilege escalation exploit of some kind
21:27	VanessaE	OH that kind of trunk
21:27	VanessaE	he is referring to an irritating feature of locked chests where only the owner can see inside - not even a server admin has access.
21:28	bluegreen	You can
21:28	bluegreen	I is simple
21:29	bluegreen	It*
21:29	VanessaE	how?
21:29	VanessaE	do tell
21:30	luizrpgluiz	I just wanted to know if it is possible to place privilege protected the chest so that the admin can view the items in case of hack server
21:31	bluegreen	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua
21:31	bluegreen	1366
21:32	bluegreen	change the function
21:35	luizrpgluiz	ok, what line I should put the admin can look at the chest?
21:35	VanessaE	too bad the function is local, otherwise I'd hook into it with a mod.
21:36	VanessaE	I would say add a check for "basic_privs" privilege at the end of line 1367.
21:36	bluegreen	http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
21:37	bluegreen	that should work
21:37	VanessaE	yes, exactly like that
21:37	bluegreen	didn't try it yet
21:37	VanessaE	you should PR that against minetest_game, except I think you want to do NOT (server priv)
21:37	VanessaE	return false if the player shouldn't open it
21:37	bluegreen	oh yeah
21:38	bluegreen	lol
21:38	bluegreen	so this http://pastebin.com/kPk0DGv8
21:38	VanessaE	"and not"
21:39	bluegreen	lol
21:39	VanessaE	http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
21:39	VanessaE	something like that should work
21:40	* bluegreen	testing
21:40	VanessaE	not sure, I'm not well versed on using privs
21:41	aerth	wow what a good idea.i put creative mode on for a day and i'd love to see whats in everyones (probably stuffed full of diamonds) locked chests!
21:41	luizrpgluiz	did not know, I was just put that o.O
21:42	bluegreen	lol
21:43	bluegreen	if I join your server can you run /give bluegreen default:diamond -1 :)
21:46	luizrpgluiz	:D
21:46	luizrpgluiz	I apologize, it is that I'm still new to mods minetest
21:46	luizrpgluiz	^^
21:46	bluegreen	thats one bug I don't want fixed :)
21:47	bluegreen	does the code work?
21:50	bluegreen	ahh
21:50	bluegreen	DON"T USE THE CODE!!!!
21:50	bluegreen	Nvm
21:51	bluegreen	why can't I revoke "server" priv?
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21:52	luizrpgluiz	It is that I'm worried, because there are people who can hack using items and to make sure, I wanted to see if this person really is not using illegal program
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21:52	luizrpgluiz	?
21:53	CraigyDavi	bluegreen, you're not revoking it from yourself, singleplayer or whatever "name =" is set to into minetest.conf?
21:53	luizrpgluiz	what do you mean?
21:53	bluegreen	what do you mean?
21:53	Krock	what do you mean?
21:53	CraigyDavi	what do you mean?
21:53	bluegreen	CraigyDavi
21:53	bluegreen	no I can't
21:54	bluegreen	what do you all mean?
21:54	CraigyDavi	Then I'm not sure what the problem is
21:55	bluegreen	CraigyDavi
21:55	bluegreen	I'm revoking from myself is that not allowed?
21:55	CraigyDavi	Uh, I'm not sure - but It shouldn't be a problem
21:55	bluegreen	luizrpgluiz
21:56	bluegreen	you can't check is a person using a hacked client
21:56	bluegreen	you can check however are you seeing them fly without privs
21:57	luizrpgluiz	We had a player on my server that months ago managed to fly without even having the privilege flight
21:57	bluegreen	yeah
21:57	bluegreen	thats why you have admin :)
21:57	bluegreen	admins*
21:59	bluegreen	the most they can do is fly ,noclip and if you don't have anti-cheat enabled fast
21:59	bluegreen	You can ban them when you see them
22:04	aerth	any way to lax the strict version check but keep it enabled?
22:04	bluegreen	I don't know
22:04	bluegreen	I think not
22:05	aerth	i searched for it and there was talk of it months ago but no real thing
22:08	bluegreen	well you can always modify minetest source code. :)
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22:24	bluegreen	some error caused my log to get spammed
22:25	bluegreen	with the full json of the public server list
22:26	VanessaE	interesting, because one of my servers just crashed, "not enough memory"
22:27	VanessaE	well about 15 mins ago it did anyway
22:27	VanessaE	however, looks like it died while loading a mapblock or something
22:29	VanessaE	hm, no. strike that.
22:30	bluegreen	http://pastebin.com/bSMeRaMJ
22:30	bluegreen	the debug.txt
22:30	VanessaE	weird.
22:30	bluegreen	this is not the first time
22:30	bluegreen	I happend brfore
22:31	bluegreen	also were is Line 1, Column 106559
22:31	VanessaE	nowhere :)
22:32	VanessaE	more likely that translates to char 106'559 of the json dump you got.
22:32	bluegreen	I don't think the dump should be printed to screen lol
22:33	VanessaE	I think current dev stops most such errors from making it to the screen
22:33	bluegreen	nope it doesn't
22:33	bluegreen	at least on windows it doesn't
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22:35	yaman	How many more times is gold worth than stone in default minetest game, taking into account prevalence of each and depth at which they are found?
22:36	VanessaE	depends on the economy of the server - gold may be just about worthless on one server, and more valuable than the real thing on another
22:37	Inocudom	https://youtu.be/AfUwSU6Cf4w Remember this great painter?
22:37	VanessaE	yaman: but I would have to guess about 100'000 to 1.
22:38	bluegreen	can git branch names have spaces?
22:38	VanessaE	dunno
22:38	* bluegreen	checks
22:39	rom1504	bluegreen: no
22:39	* bluegreen	github is still online
22:39	* bluegreen	fetches branch
22:40	rom1504	git branch "test a" tells me the name is invalid ;)
22:41	bluegreen	let's see can github for windows handle it :)
22:41	bluegreen	the website can create a branch with a space
22:42	bluegreen	nvm
22:42	bluegreen	It replaced them with '-'
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22:44	bluegreen	time to undone some commits
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22:51	bluegreen	game#602
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23:00	yaman	I am running a server on my computer, is it possible to restrict the server privilege of my user?
23:16	cimbakahn	Wow! Are there actually people in this room?
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23:17	cimbakahn	Hello VanessaE! I saw some of your work on the internet. Great job!
23:18	VanessaE	thanks :)
23:18	cimbakahn	I was on a server once and had problems there.
23:19	cimbakahn	I just wanted to create and beautify. And a certain other person wanted to blow my creations up.
23:19	VanessaE	that's pretty common with online games
23:20	VanessaE	definitely not unique to minetest
23:20	cimbakahn	And constantly kill me so i would be respawing over and over again and would have to search all over to find my bones.
23:21	VanessaE	:(
23:21	VanessaE	that's why pvp is disabled on most of my servers
23:21	cimbakahn	Is there a server for people that just want to create things, without worrying about destruction?
23:21	VanessaE	try my Basic-plus server sometime
23:22	VanessaE	but beware that no matter where you go, there's gonna be someone trying to ruin peoples' creations
23:22	VanessaE	but if you use the protection features, you should be okayu
23:22	VanessaE	-u
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23:23	cimbakahn	I had added some mods in my minetest. Would i have to put in mods that match your server OR would i have to have a vanilla minetest?
23:24	cimbakahn	Does protection features always work?
23:24	luizrpgluiz	bluegreen:I tested here changing the code and the chest does not open at all
23:25	bluegreen	?
23:25	bluegreen	do you have server privs
23:25	bluegreen	or are you owner
23:25	bluegreen	use the code from this pr
23:25	bluegreen	it works
23:25	bluegreen	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:26	bluegreen	can yo paste the code you are using?
23:26	luizrpgluiz	yes i have a server privs
23:26	bluegreen	use the new code
23:27	aerth	thank you bluegreen
23:27	cimbakahn	What is pvp?
23:28	VanessaE	player-vs-player
23:28	bluegreen	pvp = player vs player
23:28	VanessaE	ninja'd :)
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23:29	luizrpgluiz	you can again pass code, I'm using pidgin on windows
23:29	bluegreen	lol
23:29	aerth	am i doing it right:
23:29	aerth	git clone https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git; git checkout locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:29	bluegreen	I have no idea
23:29	bluegreen	just download the zip :)
23:30	cimbakahn	So if pvp is disabled it means one player can't hurt another players character? Is this correct?
23:30	aerth	:D
23:30	bluegreen	I'm horribly at git
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23:30	luizrpgluiz	http://pastebin.com/031u9rVc
23:30	bluegreen	had to revent pushed commits twice today
23:31	aerth	thats fun
23:31	luizrpgluiz	is this link that I caught your modified code
23:31	aerth	pretty sure that code did it though.
23:31	bluegreen	luizrpgluiz
23:31	bluegreen	that code is wrong
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23:31	bluegreen	use that one posted by latter
23:31	aerth	because the merge (pull request) is to merge that locked_chest-bug-fixes BRANCH into with MASTER branch
23:32	bluegreen	or the one from the pr
23:32	luizrpgluiz	pr?
23:32	bluegreen	pull request
23:32	cimbakahn	Does protection features always work?
23:32	bluegreen	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/602
23:33	bluegreen	http://pastebin.com/Rseh4guf
23:33	aerth	i cant clone the pull request.
23:33	aerth	i can clone your fork , and checkout your branch
23:33	aerth	just git bs
23:33	bluegreen	try wget https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game/tree/locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:34	bluegreen	:)
23:34	bluegreen	wget is a better version of git
23:34	aerth	lol
23:35	bluegreen	nvm
23:35	bluegreen	it's
23:35	bluegreen	wget https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game/archive/locked_chest-bug-fixes.zip
23:35	bluegreen	wrong url :?
23:35	aerth	heres the best way
23:36	aerth	git remote add fix https://github.com/red-001/minetest_game.git;git pull fix locked_chest-bug-fixes
23:36	bluegreen	here is a better way
23:36	cimbakahn	I worry about someone destroying a building that it took me so long to create, i would rather just play by myself on my own computer, and that is what i have been doing.
23:37	aerth	cimbakahn, protection features should work fine
23:37	cimbakahn	Thank you aerth!
23:37	bluegreen	rm -r ./
23:37	VanessaE	cimbakahn: that's why you use whatever protection mod the server has
23:37	VanessaE	my servers all use the Areas mod for example
23:37	cimbakahn	And Thank You VanessaE!
23:37	bluegreen	git commit -a -m 'fix all bugs'
23:38	aerth	^ that works great
23:38	bluegreen	git push
23:38	aerth	btw im running that branch at minetest.xyz:30000
23:38	bluegreen	cool
23:38	cimbakahn	I don't know what Areas mod is but i'll take your word for it.
23:39	bluegreen	it nice to know some runs your code
23:39	VanessaE	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
23:39	* bluegreen	waits for someone to comment on https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/595
23:39	MinetestBot	[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeon generation: Fix code style issues in dungeongen.cpp cfed682 http://git.io/vOmgJ (2015-08-01T00:37:26+01:00)
23:41	aerth	:D
23:42	bluegreen	it's going to take a long time
23:44	aerth	protected chest change works!
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23:45	* bluegreen	thinks programming is x1 coding x4 debugging x7 waiting for merge
23:46	aerth	who was making the ncurses thing
23:46	aerth	wheres the link
23:47	bluegreen	I don't know
23:47	aerth	alright i will ask later
23:47	Jordach	cornernote, hnnng
23:48	Jordach	that new formspec
23:48	cimbakahn	I found cornernotes mods for unlimited locked chest, and the minetest guide very helpful.
23:48	bluegreen	https://www.google.ie/webhp?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=Agm8VfigMOmQ7Abo06bAAQ#q=site:forum.minetest.net
23:48	bluegreen	use that to search forum
23:48	bluegreen	for it
23:49	cimbakahn	Minetest is my 1st multiplayer game. I just started a couple months ago.
23:50	bluegreen	Is this the mod https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=1207
23:50	bluegreen	found it here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10134&start=26
23:51	aerth	unified_inventory vs inventory_plus ... do they conflict?
23:51	bluegreen	here is an other on https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=1211
23:51	bluegreen	yes they do
23:51	bluegreen	just use one
23:51	aerth	people just login and change skins nonstop
23:52	bluegreen	lol
23:52	bluegreen	you can disable it if you want
23:52	aerth	no they like it
23:52	bluegreen	lol
23:52	aerth	at least everyones not sam
23:52	bluegreen	true
23:53	bluegreen	I'm often sam in diamond armor
23:53	bluegreen	:)
23:53	cimbakahn	I found mods from VanessaE and cornernote and PilzAdam very helpful.
23:54	bluegreen	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12106
23:54	aerth	^ ditto
23:54	bluegreen	I don't think anyone craft anything with this mod
23:54	bluegreen	without giveme or creative
23:57	cimbakahn	There is a beautiful house that VanessaE has that i want for myself. It is right here ----> http://www.minetest.net/_media/minetest-screenshot-vanessa512hd-2.jpg?cache=
23:57	VanessaE	you can see that house on my creative server.
23:57	VanessaE	also HDX \o/
23:58	bluegreen	nice house
23:58	VanessaE	thanks :)
23:59	aerth	https://github.com/aerth/cannamine Cannabis Mod (Grow it, Grind it, Roll it, Heals HP when used)
23:59	aerth	working on making it standalone still
23:59	cimbakahn	Do i have to do anything special with my minetest to be compatible with your creative server?
23:59	VanessaE	aerth: heh
23:59	bluegreen	my house on craigs server is 100 node high
23:59	aerth	cimbakahn, just log in and let it load!
23:59	VanessaE	cimbakahn: you just need to have adequate RAM and patience. it sometimes takes several tries to connect and get the world to load, due to server bugs.
23:59	bluegreen	aerth wow

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