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00:08 Jordach !tell Sokomine http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_010400.png one steel bed
00:08 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Sokomine is around
00:25 Sketch2 who was it that wanted the cactus, JBB?  the default scrollback for XChat doesn't go back far enough to see
00:26 Sketch2 I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but my brain is tired.  here's a drop-in replacement so you have a spiky cactus model - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00147671614419867784
00:27 Sketch2 by "do this," I mean package it as a mod.
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00:47 Jordach Steel Bed PvP potential: huge
00:47 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_014511.png
00:48 Jordach also handy for jailing unsuitable players
00:49 deezl oh how I wish VE-Basic had a jail
00:49 deezl dies that steel bed protect a player while "sleeping"?
00:50 Jordach deezl, might add a special steel bed - places a "admin" bed, except can be slept in by anyone
00:50 Jordach because only the admin can remove it - it's a jailbed
00:50 deezl ah
00:50 Jordach something like /kill would return them to it
00:51 Jordach or even lava traps
00:52 Jordach and it can't be destroyed by unruly players, either :)
00:52 Jordach (although a protected bed solves this issue, however, not all servers uses areas)
00:55 Jordach code used: https://gist.github.com/Jordach/11271742418b2f9f6c4a
00:56 Jordach (admin bed, insert the same check from can_dig into on_rightclick)
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00:58 Jordach why do i innovate with mods so much
00:58 Jordach new and fresh ideas
00:58 deezl so what makes that different from just a locked bed?
00:58 Jordach the admin one could be used as a PvP tool for PvP servers
00:59 Jordach while a normal locked one doesn't set multiple spawn points at the same bed
00:59 Jordach forcing others to find their own
00:59 Jordach (after all, who wouldn't want a bed that someone else slept in!)
00:59 deezl haha
00:59 deezl I see now, your bed becomes your spawn
01:00 deezl I didn't get that part at first
01:00 Jordach that's how it's always worked on non /home servers
01:00 deezl oh really?
01:00 Jordach also handy for skipping the night
01:01 deezl but I like the night....
01:01 deezl I never understood that
01:01 Jordach BFD has mobs - it makes sense there
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01:01 deezl oh
01:01 Jordach (rather overpowered mobs for early game, mid game they become less of an issue)
01:01 Jordach not to mention there isn't any armor
01:02 deezl ouch
01:02 Jordach dungeon masters one hit
01:04 Jordach DMs do about 30 hearts
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01:50 wilkgr Reviire hello again!
01:51 Reviire Morning
01:51 wilkgr Yes, just!
01:51 wilkgr IN 10 mins I'll be saying good afternoon!
01:52 Reviire You Australian/
01:52 wilkgr Yep
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02:34 jhcole anyone know if its possible to run two servers from the same machine?
02:34 est31 jhcole, it is possible
02:34 est31 just use different ports
02:34 est31 also you will want to have different debug.txt files and minetest.conf files
02:36 jhcole great, can i put the debug.txt and minetest.conf in the world folder?
02:37 est31 I think yes, but you shouldnt
02:37 est31 because of security reasons
02:38 est31 better to keep them somewhere else
02:40 jhcole good idea, unfortunately every time i start up the second server it seg faults as soon as i log in
02:40 est31 you have to set another port
02:41 jhcole i started it like this:
02:41 jhcole minetestserver --config ~/.minetest/worlds/local/minetest.conf --logfile ~/.minetest/worlds/local/debug.txt --port 30001 ~/.minetest/worlds/local/
02:41 jhcole the other one is on default port 30000
02:41 est31 so whats the segfault reason then
02:41 est31 any log message?
02:42 jhcole no log message other than:
02:42 jhcole 2015-07-22 17:39:20: ACTION[ServerThread]: Foz joins game. List of players: Foz
02:42 jhcole Segmentation fault (core dumped)
02:42 jhcole I can try to run with --trace
02:43 est31 can you run it in a debugger?
02:43 est31 like gdb
02:43 est31 also compile it in debug mode before
02:43 jhcole thats going to take a minute, also i've never used gdb, though i've been meaning to learn how
02:43 MinetestBot [git] RealBadAngel -> minetest/minetest: Fix issues with light of attached CAOs 1e0e85f http://git.io/vYYfN (2015-07-23T04:35:13+02:00)
02:45 RealBadAngel jhcole, just: gdb minetest
02:45 RealBadAngel then after crash: bt full
02:45 RealBadAngel and you will have the backtrace
02:47 est31 type r for starting minetest
02:49 jhcole its compiling with as type Debug now, what do you mean 'type r'
03:00 jhcole cool, it ran in gdb, and crashed, now i have a backtrace. Should i paste it here?
03:00 est31 no
03:00 est31 paste it in a pastebin
03:00 est31 then link it here
03:00 jhcole ok :)
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03:03 jhcole here: http://pastebin.com/C8DnBsJi
03:04 est31 jhcole, can you do a debug build?
03:04 est31 it has debug symbols
03:05 jhcole ok, i just need to find the option to give to the compiler, i guess i used the wrong one
03:05 est31 its a cmake option
03:06 est31 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
03:07 jhcole ohh, i had used -DBUILD_TYPE=Debug, its recompiling now
03:09 wilkgr Hm...
03:10 wilkgr I was browsing mods a few days ago, which I wanted to download on this machine, but I can't find the download link
03:10 wilkgr !mod lifts
03:10 MinetestBot wilkgr: Lifts [lift] by portals - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8882
03:10 wilkgr no
03:10 wilkgr Yes, that's the one
03:12 VanessaE looks like a dead project
03:12 VanessaE try Sokomine's travelnet mod.  it has simple elevators (though those just teleport the user between floors)
03:13 jhcole boom: http://pastebin.com/s332ejM3
03:13 wilkgr Yeah, but I they don't have the animation thing...
03:14 wilkgr It looks like it's just a vertical cart...
03:25 jhcole it seems like i'm still not compiling correctly with Debug, my build script looks like this: http://pastebin.com/QUFUbN33
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03:32 cornernote what are vessels used for ?
03:32 wilkgr Deco, afaik
03:33 cornernote can you put stuff in them ?
03:35 wilkgr Don't think so...
03:35 wilkgr VanessaE, I think you made this mod...
03:35 wilkgr Can you put water in them?
03:37 VanessaE they don't do anything by themselves.
03:38 VanessaE the point originally was for other mods to use them i.e. clone the defs and/or textures
03:38 VanessaE though the glass recycle recipe is useful at least.
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03:43 jhcole good news: when I deleted the map.sqlite and map_meta.txt of the new world, the seg fault went away. bad news: there exist some error in mapgen that can cause seg faults.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful figuring out what it was
03:44 cornernote regarding farming... my seeds turn into small plants, but they never grow
03:44 cornernote when i harvest them, i get nothing
03:45 cornernote im trying to make all items accessable in skyblock, and farming seems to be the trickiest
03:53 Sokomine any windows users present?
03:53 MinetestBot Sokomine: 07-23 00:08 UTC <Jordach> http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_010400.png one steel bed
03:54 Sokomine cornernote: is the land wet? there needs to be water no more than 3 blocks away. and it takes time
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03:55 Sokomine hm. jordachs bed doesn't look very comftable. i'd rather take a wooden one :-)
03:57 wilkgr Hello OldCoder!
03:57 OldCoder lo
03:57 OldCoder o/
03:58 wilkgr Are you feeling better?
03:59 OldCoder hm
03:59 OldCoder What channel are we in?
04:00 OldCoder wilkgr, this channel is for Minetest discussion
04:00 OldCoder Show me your car if you like
04:00 OldCoder I forget the world
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04:02 Sokomine hi oldcoder
04:03 OldCoder o/
04:11 wilkgr "ERROR: Connection timed out" when I try to connect to any server.
04:17 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Stairs: Register acacia wood stair and slab ec68283 http://git.io/vYYCU (2015-07-23T05:14:43+01:00)
04:17 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Flowers: Add mushrooms to mgv6 bc4d0c1 http://git.io/vYYCT (2015-07-23T05:14:32+01:00)
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05:39 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Optional reconnect functionality 3b50b27 http://git.io/vYYg5 (2015-07-23T07:38:13+02:00)
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05:50 ghaida hi
05:50 est31 hi
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06:17 Thron anyone here know "Brunominer" i need to get in contact with him!! ;)
06:20 ThatGraemeGuy ~seen Brunominer
06:20 ShadowBot ThatGraemeGuy: I haven't seen Brunominer in #minetest.
06:20 ThatGraemeGuy guess now
06:20 ThatGraemeGuy *not
06:20 ThatGraemeGuy derp
06:20 Reviire Did someone ping me
06:20 * ThatGraemeGuy goes back to sleep
06:21 TheMiner LOL you type like you still asleep hehehehe
06:21 TheMiner his name is Brunomine
06:21 ThatGraemeGuy double derp
06:21 Reviire Does shadowbot ping you when it does that
06:21 ThatGraemeGuy ~seen Brunomine
06:21 ShadowBot ThatGraemeGuy: I haven't seen Brunomine in #minetest.
06:21 ThatGraemeGuy nope
06:21 Reviire Oh it does
06:21 Reviire Annoying
06:22 ThatGraemeGuy yeah it sends a notice instead of a normal message, it's dumb
06:22 Reviire So who controls the bot
06:22 ThatGraemeGuy someone who has clearly not been on IRC since the dark ages
06:22 ThatGraemeGuy that bot would've been banned 20 years ago
06:23 ThatGraemeGuy lol
06:23 Reviire So i'm going to go back to eating and staring at my Steam library
06:24 Reviire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtKa6lZFKk8
06:26 ThatGraemeGuy if I'm going to listen to some weird japanese musical material I'll stick with babymetal
06:26 Reviire It
06:26 Reviire It's a pv, it's weird
06:26 Reviire IOSYS does stuff like that.
06:27 Reviire Babymetal is a cool band, it's one of the only bands I know I listen to.
06:27 Reviire Or rather, it's one of the only bands I like, among 5 others.
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06:28 Reviire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zpBdfnyy7I I tried this in Audiosurf, it feels like turbo in normal mode
06:29 cornernote my skyblock server's seems a little laggy... eg, lava doesnt flow for quite some time
06:29 cornernote is it possibly because there is too much flowing lava all around the place ?
06:29 Reviire Is your computer slow?
06:29 cornernote nope
06:30 cornernote i restarted the server, see if that helps
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06:30 Reviire If it's Minetest, it might be because of too much stuff flowing.
06:30 cornernote would lots and lots of flowing lava cause lag ?
06:31 Reviire It could, I don't really know the engine so I have no idea.
06:31 cornernote basically everyone in skyblock has their own flowing lava, and it flows a long way down
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09:02 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Gorgeous Grandma Day! 😃
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09:11 JBB hi
09:12 yh1986 why android has no sky render
09:13 JBB oh i think there are clouds normally
09:14 yh1986 but no sun、moon and stars
09:14 JBB .mhh i havent played it on android yet but my friend lnj
09:15 JBB he hasn't problems with that I think
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09:47 wilkgr Good night!
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10:19 Calinou "I can't believe I paid 20 dollars for Minecraft when I could get this for FREE." :D
10:19 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=12883
10:19 Calinou I could add a testimonials section to my site :P
10:20 Krock minetest stable-dirty
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10:31 RealBadAngel Calinou, and he likes the shaders, yikes ;)
10:34 cornernote hey everyone
10:34 cornernote im having performance issues with skyblock, i think due to so much flowing stuff
10:35 cornernote does anyone have any ideas on how i can make a solution ?
10:35 cornernote im thinking something along the lines of just replacing it with air below a certain depth
10:39 RealBadAngel cornernote, i can think of two solutions
10:40 RealBadAngel 1. world can be limited
10:40 RealBadAngel 2. lava flow propably could be made limited
10:41 RealBadAngel if theres a limit for horizontal flow, why not make the same for vertical? not so real but for sake of performance
10:42 RealBadAngel liquids spreding downwards endlessly are know servers killers
10:42 RealBadAngel *known
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10:44 cornernote i just made an abm that kills any flowing under the world bottom
10:44 cornernote visually it looks fine still, nobody goes down there because it kills you
10:45 cornernote does the flow happen via lua or in the c ?
10:46 cornernote looks like its in the c (because i cant find it in the lua)
10:47 cornernote also changed the world bottom from -32 to -16
10:48 cornernote i think that will help a lot
10:48 cornernote now, is having this ABM going to make it slower ?
10:48 RealBadAngel its engine side thingy
10:48 RealBadAngel and very costly
10:49 cornernote interval=1 chance=1
10:49 est31 what do you mean with flowing?
10:49 RealBadAngel heck, you know the effects
10:49 RealBadAngel est31, its a pain in the ass
10:49 cornernote default:lava_flowing
10:49 RealBadAngel make it flow from above and watch servers dying
10:49 cornernote https://gist.github.com/cornernote/d22596f7f8aaf7be66a2
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10:50 RealBadAngel its not only our problem, its general for the genre
10:50 cornernote you think this ABM will cause performance issues ?
10:50 cornernote i dont want to fix one problem and cause another
10:51 RealBadAngel if we could agree on limit flowing in the engine problem wouldnt exist anymore
10:51 RealBadAngel just limit flowing range from the source to one max value
10:52 cornernote i dont want to change any engine stuff... im a simple-minded user
10:52 cornernote doing that 3d cube extraction was about my limit... dont even know how i initally did that
10:52 RealBadAngel cornernote, wut? youre one of the finest mt modders out there :P
10:53 cornernote i do php/mysql, and im really good at it... lua is simple, c++ with 3d stuff is not where i want to be
10:54 RealBadAngel the language for the coder is an abstract
10:54 est31 ^
10:54 RealBadAngel more important is the state of mind
10:55 RealBadAngel willing to change something
10:55 est31 it is mostly abstract
10:55 cornernote ok, my state of mind wants to keep away from tinkering in c++ ;)
10:55 est31 but you have to stay inside your gerne
10:55 est31 if you know imperative/object oriented, you have a hard time learning a functional language
10:55 RealBadAngel what i wanted to say: if you can imagine how it should work
10:55 est31 and vice versa
10:55 RealBadAngel its 90% of the job done
10:56 cornernote i think changing the world bottom really helps...
10:56 cornernote the problem was the lava would hit the bottom of the loaded area (not the world bottom), then collide with water, and then make stone
10:56 cornernote and then there would be more flowing off the stone
10:57 cornernote how far away from a player does it load ?
10:57 cornernote (if load is the right word, which it isnt, but you get the point hopefully)
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10:59 RealBadAngel we can define liquids behaviour by a simple set of booleans, right?
11:00 RealBadAngel thats those 90%
11:01 RealBadAngel just define what you would expect from the engine and we will code that
11:01 RealBadAngel skyblock is definitely worth a bit of effort to make it one of default games
11:02 RealBadAngel theres only one game more that is actually different from minetest_game than skyblock
11:03 RealBadAngel its creatures by Taoki
11:03 RealBadAngel imho those two really deserves to be shipped in builds, as representing totally different gameplay, as whole
11:04 cornernote im hoping i can submit it to be shipped with the game within a cpl of weeks
11:04 cornernote just trying to get the levels/abms/nodes/etc worked out with the new minetest_game items
11:05 cornernote i think something like... flowing_min_y = INT
11:05 cornernote below that you just dont do anything with flowing
11:06 cornernote maybe a flowing_max_y to match it
11:06 cornernote i still have the problem that people may go up high and then put their lava/water
11:06 cornernote but thats a lot more rare
11:07 cornernote 95% of people in multiplayer dont complete level1
11:07 cornernote but i think this ABM will solve the issue, so long as the ABM itself isnt too heavy
11:07 cornernote should i decrease the interval ?
11:08 cornernote *increase
11:10 cornernote mouse up/down moves the selected inventory item
11:10 cornernote is there a keyboard shortcut ?
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11:43 RealBadAngel cornernote, i think that limiting max flow in EACH direction will do
11:44 RealBadAngel so liquid could flow down only by 16 nodes for example
11:44 RealBadAngel i mean distance from source
11:45 RealBadAngel if source is fixed already and we have such limits on x and z, why not with y too?
11:57 cornernote RBA, yes thats a good idea
11:57 cornernote how do i give an item via command ?
11:58 cornernote got it... /giveme
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12:24 twoelk cornernote, you may want to study the mod Skylands or the game Sky-Test from HeroOfTheWinds https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9152
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12:26 twoelk he did play with turning falling water into vapour after a certain amount of falling. cant remember wether he really implemented it
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12:35 Xack hi
12:36 Xack hey Calinou :)
12:36 Calinou hi Xack
12:36 Xack how you doing? :P
12:38 Calinou fine
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12:49 * Jordach tests the forcewalls
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13:14 RealBadAngel twoelk, it has to be done engine side. game like skyblock has a potential to be blazing fast on droid devices
13:15 RealBadAngel only thing stopping that is liquids flow imho
13:18 RealBadAngel if the world limit will be set just a few dozens nodes below the default starting level for a skyblock it should be enough
13:18 RealBadAngel ofc at wolrd limit you shouldnt been able to place anything and build up again
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13:19 Krock Jordach, forcewalls?
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13:32 Jordach Krock, stops players from exiting the defined area
13:32 Jordach like PvP maps
13:32 Jordach or servers with low storage space
13:32 Krock Jordach, yeah but are you using 1, big or thousands of regular nodes?
13:33 Jordach normal nodes that look and act like ignore
13:33 Krock I ask because I tried to make a forcefield mod and failed at the collision box
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13:58 cornernote when i connect to my server, i have fly/fast/etc
13:58 jojoa1997 hi
13:58 cornernote but i never gave them to myself
13:58 cornernote is it because im the 1st player in auth.txt ?
13:58 cornernote i connect as another user, and i dont have them
14:03 Krock cornernote, it's because your name is set in the server config
14:03 Krock and that's the admin name
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14:07 xenkey tfw server empty
14:07 xenkey Maybe I should use the old map
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14:17 Antibody` Hi folks. I can't change the PulseAudio output device for Minetest. Is there another way to change the sound output?
14:17 xenkey Antibody`: tried pavucontrol?
14:17 Antibody` That is exactly what I'm trying to change it with.
14:17 xenkey No idea then
14:18 Antibody` It refuses to change from the default audio device to the one I want (a headset)
14:18 xenkey It should do that anyway
14:18 Antibody` Agreed, it should :D
14:18 xenkey Try various things in the Configuration tab
14:19 xenkey By "should" I mean "it does for me" :P
14:19 Antibody` I understand. This isn't a configuration problem for Pulse. Other applications behave as expected.
14:19 Antibody` although no other Irrlicht apps...
14:21 xenkey Do you really want the sounds though?
14:21 Antibody` How would I know if I want them or not if I've never heard them?
14:24 xenkey Don't you have speakers?
14:24 xenkey I just tested with headphones and it transitions fine
14:25 xenkey Which OS are you using?
14:25 Antibody` Ubuntu 15.04.
14:26 jojoa1997 what do yall think of opensuse. I have to use it in my linux class
14:26 Antibody` And yes, I have speakers. Those also could not be selected, as they are yet another audio device listed by pavucontrol.
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14:27 jojoa1997 oh wrong chan
14:27 xenkey What's the output of `pactl info` ?
14:29 Antibody` Ah. I can't access the machine at the moment. I was just hoping for some clues to investigate later.
14:29 Calinou http://gamejolt.com/games/minetest/77389
14:29 Calinou lol, the comments
14:30 Calinou lol, the owner is called "Celeron55"...
14:30 Calinou "Try to run the Game Launcher as admin. Install java 7 or later versions."
14:30 Calinou "Head to /bin and run minetest.exe as admin and java.jar. This should do it."
14:31 Antibody` That's worse than YT comments...
14:31 Antibody` Depressing.
14:34 Antibody` xenkey: One thing I'll try is "pacmd set-default-sink "$FOO"" with $FOO being the desired output sink name or number.
14:34 Antibody` I wonder if that will be enough to boot it in the head.
14:35 xenkey "I think we have enough Minecraft clones out there. Please, do something unique."
14:36 xenkey LOL
14:37 Calinou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU
14:37 Calinou we should do this
14:38 sfan5 Game Launcher.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386 Mono/.Net assembly, for MS Windows
14:38 sfan5 seems legit
14:38 Calinou we should report it
14:39 sfan5 contents of java.jar: http://sprunge.us/MAMG
14:40 xenkey lol
14:41 sfan5 >Project goal is to give users possibility to access build-in or connected via USB webcams or remote IP / network cameras directly from Java code. Using provided libraries user is able to read camera images and detect motion.
14:41 sfan5 ok
14:42 Jordach u wot
14:42 Krock Is gamejolt used by kids and haters?
14:42 xenkey yes
14:42 Jordach YES
14:42 Antibody` Thanks for your help xenkey. Cheers.
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14:42 Krock ah, that's why there are so many low-niveau comments
14:42 xenkey An-
14:42 xenkey Ok
14:43 sfan5 ESET-NOD32a variant of Java/Adwind.GT20150723
14:43 sfan5 ok
14:43 sfan5 IkarusTrojan.Java.Adwind20150723
14:43 sfan5 yup
14:44 Jordach http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/876/520/471.jpg
14:44 Jordach inb4 DMCA
14:45 sfan5 https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/f1720a6acbf04d296ca34b01e642cfffe376180427ddc99c50d64db824b1ae6c/analysis/1437662542/
14:45 Jordach luckily i'm not touching that shit
14:46 Calinou I'm writing a contact e-mail right now
14:46 Jordach danke
14:46 Calinou done
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14:50 sfan5 lol
14:51 sfan5 the virus only supports sysvinit
14:51 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/uz1jXc8.png
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14:51 sfan5 also it tried to write to /etc/init.d
14:52 sfan5 thats stupid
14:52 sfan5 nobody is goind to run it with root
14:52 sfan5 s/tried/tries/
14:52 xenkey lol
14:53 Jordach LMAO
14:53 Jordach not even a windows virus
14:53 Jordach 0/10
14:53 sfan5 u wot
14:54 sfan5 it supports windows mac and linux
14:54 xenkey lol
14:54 Jordach lmao
14:54 Jordach fucking scrub wrote it
14:54 sfan5 http://sprunge.us/GgMZ?java
14:55 xenkey so it doesn't run on bsd
14:58 TBC_x are you trying to fix bugs in a virus?
14:58 xenkey lol
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15:00 xenkey is this slightly over the top https://sr.ht/7369.png ?
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15:02 Cornernote_ Does minetest.net still allow subdomains?
15:02 Calinou custom subdomains? I don't think so
15:03 Cornernote_ Used to be with afraid.org which allows anyone to set them up, but not there any more i think
15:03 jojoa1997 haha
15:03 sfan5 no, not anymore
15:03 xenkey https://sr.ht/8863.png when you see it
15:04 Cornernote_ Can i request one for skyblock.minetest.net. .. who would i talk to about it?
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15:04 sfan5 celeron
15:05 sfan5 but i doubt that you will get one
15:05 Cornernote_ I see... any reason for that thought?
15:06 sfan5 i don't think celeron will start giving people subdomains
15:07 sfan5 i think he dislikes the idea of random people being able to "host" stuff on a .minetest.net domain
15:07 Jordach xenkey, glorious
15:07 xenkey Tis
15:07 Jordach actually glorious
15:08 xenkey And add a question "What was wrong with the rules"
15:08 xenkey Oh shit this is clever
15:09 sfan5 why not include a 10th grade class test while you're at it?
15:09 xenkey I don't see why not
15:10 Jordach idiot filters are great
15:10 xenkey Jordach: The sad truth is: nobody will get through
15:10 Jordach Wolfram Alpha m8
15:10 xenkey lol
15:11 Calinou "Are you part of the Glorious PC master race?" [  ] No    [  ] No    [  ] Heck No
15:12 Jordach still better than walled gardens :^)
15:12 * sfan5 throws iOS at Jordach
15:12 Jordach meow
15:13 xenkey Okay
15:13 xenkey i made it easier
15:13 xenkey so normies can get in
15:13 sfan5 >Opensource nVidia drivers now support Opengl 4 (cgit.freedesktop.org)
15:13 sfan5 >Opengl
15:13 sfan5 it burns
15:13 xenkey https://sr.ht/ca41.txt
15:13 Jordach sfan5, OpenGL 4.5 here
15:14 * Jordach is waiting for Vulkan to become the new OpenGL
15:14 sfan5 Jordach: OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.6.1 (integrated) / 4.5.0 NVIDIA 352.21 (dedicated) here
15:14 Jordach ooh
15:14 Jordach sfan5, nVidia driver 353.30 here :)
15:15 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:15 sfan5 no idea whether there is an update
15:15 sfan5 didn't do -Syu recently
15:15 Jordach is for WinNT based macines
15:15 Calinou Jordach, we're all waiting for Godot. And waiting for Vulkan.
15:15 Jordach tfw i can't into English nor Kerbal space
15:15 Calinou http://www.godotengine.org/wp/first-steps-towards-1-2/
15:16 xenkey sfan5: You're an arch user?
15:16 sfan5 yes
15:16 TBC_x do you guys know colobot?
15:16 * Jordach grabs a pencil and draws a neckbeard on sfan5
15:16 Jordach w8 a second
15:16 Jordach i forgot the fedora :^)
15:16 sfan5 >windows 8 a second
15:16 sfan5 ok
15:16 Jordach lmao
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15:34 xenkey PilzAdam is on 3999 posts
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15:50 Marq A couple of days a go, I had several problems to install some mods.
15:51 xenkey Do tell
15:51 Marq Later I tried  to deinstall minetest.
15:51 Marq and now i see, i still have minetest om my computer
15:51 Marq (i use ubuntu as os
15:52 xenkey local like = minetest.require("madblocks","like")("madblocks") minetest doesn't seem to like this line
15:52 Marq what do you mean?
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15:58 Marq xenkey, i dont understand you
15:58 xenkey Because I'm not talking to you in particular
15:58 xenkey What I said wasn't in response to your question
15:59 Marq oh im sorry, it did sound like the response, after "Do tell"
16:00 xenkey That was the start and end of my response
16:01 Marq ok
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16:11 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_170330.png
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16:11 Jordach no longer dropping people to 5 fps near a flower
16:11 Jordach i'm exchanging the 3d models for a more realistic approach
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16:15 Jordach Krock, your PC won't grind to a halt anymore with the new model for flowers
16:15 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_171455.png
16:16 xenkey https://github.com/cyisfor/minetest-madblocks could anyone port this?
16:16 xenkey I tried
16:16 Krock Jordach, why grind?
16:16 Jordach Krock, the old models used too many faces
16:17 Jordach these ones, not so much
16:17 Krock Oh well then
16:17 Jordach (use like 24 triangles at best)
16:17 Jordach they use no more than a cube
16:18 Krock They're plantlike v2 :)
16:21 Jordach gets better
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16:22 Jordach Krock, they have small mutations
16:22 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150723_172138.png
16:22 Jordach some have different layouts
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16:44 Krock Jordach, can those changes be checked-out somewhere?
16:46 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/0f4b6fa6fe9a8fcb89e0bc3d6f130b12536ab990
16:46 Krock Omg noez, I can't use it: "1) Download Minetest 0.4.9-dev"
16:47 Krock jk
16:48 Jordach ayy https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig
16:48 Jordach updates m8
16:52 Krock 660 MB memory usage.. uuh
16:52 Krock but wow
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16:57 Krock Jordach, 628 trees grown after: 29.97s
16:58 Jordach Krock, ~1s for me
16:58 Krock congrats
17:02 Krock You did a great job there with the trees and decoration. It looks great. http://imgur.com/LBH4geR
17:05 Jordach they're MTG tree models
17:05 Jordach from vmanip
17:05 Jordach ah, the legendary V6 biome
17:05 Jordach put BFD in MGV6
17:05 Jordach try it :)
17:05 Krock that's v6
17:06 Jordach ah
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17:06 Jordach you'll want V5 or V7
17:06 Jordach also, sfan5 and MinetestBot trying to stop ShadowBot kicking everyone for "paste flood" http://i.imgur.com/eIilibP.webm
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17:07 sfan5 meow
17:07 Krock why.. why a vertical movie?
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17:15 VanessaE Jordach: you should be shot. :P
17:15 Jordach u wot
17:15 VanessaE for recording a video in vertical orientation
17:16 Jordach those aren't mine
17:16 VanessaE idc :)
17:16 sfan5 >implying Jordach has cats
17:16 VanessaE everybody should have a cat
17:16 VanessaE it ensures insanity :)
17:17 Jordach why not corgis
17:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/QLli9TA.jpg
17:17 VanessaE heh
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18:13 twoelk OldCoder?
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18:14 GoldenMewmew Hi
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18:29 OldCoder twoelk
18:30 twoelk you just visited my map, OldCoder?
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18:33 OldCoder twoelk, no. Ban the pretend OldCoder, please.
18:33 twoelk oh well probably an imposter
18:33 OldCoder twoelk, there are like a dozen of them. It is annoying.
18:33 OldCoder Kindly ban immediately.
18:33 twoelk ok
18:33 OldCoder Also tell other server hosts to do the same.
18:33 OldCoder I do not use this nick on other people's worlds unless it is arranged in advance.
18:34 OldCoder Seriously, tell other hosts to do the same. This is something like the 6th to 12th occurrence.
18:35 * OldCoder is curious about all of the pretend OldCoders. How do they talk?
18:54 Jordach huh
18:54 Jordach it's Megaf's bday
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19:02 Krock Megaf, happy bday
19:12 * Sketch2 thinks IP's of imposters should be shared so other admins can more easily spot troublemakers
19:12 Jordach Krock, asked to draw a skin - ended up using one i already drews
19:12 Jordach -s
19:12 Jordach may or may not have used Sam II :^)
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19:23 Krock Jordach, Dr. Sam is nice, too
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19:28 Delmin Hi
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19:29 Delmin does anyone have a compiled version of the windows?
19:32 Sokomine Delmin: if you mean *for* windows: there ought to be some on the web page. krock also offers builds. they can be found on the forum
19:33 Krock \o/ advertisements!
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19:36 Delmin i have problem with complation on windows7
19:36 Delmin compilation*
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19:46 Krock Delmin, "i have problem" says so much like "hi, I'm here"
19:46 Krock error log or cancel.
19:47 Delmin "with compilation on windows7"
19:47 RealBadAngel compiling on windows? yuck!
19:47 Krock RealBadAngel, it's not that hard
19:47 RealBadAngel is that even possible?
19:47 Krock *cough* see forums
19:48 RealBadAngel ive heard of some hardcore freaks trying to use windows to compile something, but thats really hard to believe ;)
19:48 RealBadAngel its like eating your soup using a fork ;)
19:49 Krock RealBadAngel, the ~60 zip/7z archives in my dropbox folder say something else
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19:50 kiwi190 hi :)
19:50 Krock hello (:
19:50 RealBadAngel Krock, i know. but getting the env ready to compile something on win is pain in the ass
19:50 Krock RealBadAngel, that's true. but once you got it it's not that hard anymore
19:50 RealBadAngel micro dollar os is not coder friendly
19:51 RealBadAngel windows is a good platform to test your viruses and IE, nothing more
19:52 Krock hell, IE is a virus
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21:08 luizrpgluiz hi all :)
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21:56 wilkgr I've been playing Minetest too much - I was pinging shadowninja.minetest.net to see if it was online, and cmd told me /ping is not a valid program....
21:57 ElectronLibre What cmd exactly?
21:58 wilkgr Er, commandline
21:59 ElectronLibre What system?
21:59 wilkgr I shouldn't have put the slash in front...
21:59 wilkgr windows
21:59 ElectronLibre Ok, 7? 8?
21:59 wilkgr I used /ping instead of ping
21:59 ElectronLibre I don't even know if ping will work. Try it anyway.
22:11 wilkgr It does, but not with a slash
22:11 wilkgr !!
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22:45 Red1 hi
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23:43 luizrpgluiz hi
23:45 nolsen Any Python programmers in here? :P
23:45 luizrpgluiz I have not used python, I know the basics of LUA
23:46 Brains Generally a better idea to just go ahead and ask the question instead of asking if you can ask...
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