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00:02 AndroidKris Wayward_One: I can't seem to craft the larger bags though. At least not in the way that I'm used to
00:05 AndroidKris aha. in the init.lua of /lotinventory/ it shows the craft recipe of the larger bags...and it IS different than what I'm used to.
00:05 AndroidKris got it now though. Thanks Wayward_One.
00:22 swift110 lol i got minetest on my phone
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00:26 LinuxGuy2020 I could use some help with understanding why this test mod wthrows this error and wont run. Please. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3zTuxMpx
00:27 asl97 your on_place function is missing the `end`
00:30 asl97 LinuxGuy2020: ^
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00:39 LinuxGuy2020 asl97: ok thank you ill try and read and figure that out exactly.
00:42 asl97 all function need to be close with an `end`, eg: `function f(a, b) return a or b end`, link: http://www.lua.org/pil/5.html
00:42 LinuxGuy2020 oh
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01:00 Sketch2 LinuxGuy2020 - Your brackets are skewed.  You begin register_abm with ({  and close with (}
01:00 Sketch2 well crap.  he left just as I was sending it
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01:03 Sketch2 MinetestBot tell LinuxGuy2020 Your brackets were skewed.  You opened with ({  and closed with  )}   Either keep them in the right order, or only use 1
01:03 LinuxGuy2020 Does it say anywhere in the wiki about the different triggers or whatever they are called for functions like on_place, action, etc?
01:03 Sketch2 I dunno if I did that righ, but you got the message
01:04 LinuxGuy2020 I dont know what those are refered to so not sure where to look,
01:05 Sketch2 If you open with  ({   then close the curly bracket before closing parenthesis.  So it should be   })   not  )}
01:06 Sketch2 Order of operations
01:07 LinuxGuy2020 Sketch2: Yes your exactly right. Thats what I get for tryng to do this after work so tired. Miss something so stupid.
01:07 LinuxGuy2020 Sketch2: Thanks
01:07 Sketch2 sure thing
01:08 LinuxGuy2020 This lua doesnt seem very difficult at all to get up and running with simple mods.
01:09 LinuxGuy2020 Sketch2: You hapen to know what the "commands" or whatever term they are called such as "on_place" "action". What are those refered to as so I can see what all is available to use?
01:10 Sketch2 http://dev.minetest.net/Main_Page
01:10 LinuxGuy2020 I keep seeing them in fuctions
01:12 Sketch2 http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
01:12 LinuxGuy2020 Sketch2: Exactly Thank you
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02:18 swift110-phone I got minetest on my phone now
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04:20 swift110-phone Hey
04:28 Emperor_Genshin o/
04:28 swift110-phone How r u
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04:41 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Server kicks: make messages configurable, cache wstring bf7174f http://git.io/vmVDS (2015-07-17T06:37:16+02:00)
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05:25 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Run updatepo.sh 2c359da http://git.io/vmVdO (2015-07-17T07:24:10+02:00)
05:25 MinetestBot [git] nijel -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Turkish) b4f166f http://git.io/vmVd3 (2015-07-17T07:18:51+02:00)
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05:43 blaise nice
05:44 swift110-phone Yes
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06:06 swift110-phone Ok
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06:42 jhcole quick question: In mods, i've seed both "minetest.register_node( ..." and "core.register_node( ... "  and they appear to be interchangable. Which one is the "right" way?
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06:43 jhcole or what is the difference?
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07:22 RealBadAngel jhcole, right - new one - is core.
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07:33 CWz problem: i cannot login to the forum when i return to the index i get reloged out
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08:12 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Add mushrooms 0cf4fd4 http://git.io/vmwRC (2015-07-17T10:12:00+02:00)
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08:38 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Yellow Pig Day! 😃
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08:50 est31 is there a green pig day too?
08:55 * JamesTait shrugs.
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08:57 rubenwardy !server 23.28.80.41
08:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: No results
08:57 rubenwardy !server Extreme Survival Minetest
08:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Extreme Survival Minetest | 23.28.80.41 | Clients: 1/75, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.12-969413b / extreme_survival | Ping: 131ms
08:57 est31 !server 127.0.0.1
08:57 MinetestBot est31: No results
08:57 rubenwardy apparently it's 42.6 years old
08:57 est31 MinetestBot, how can you claim to be minetest, if you have no minetest running on you?
08:58 rubenwardy !up 127.0.0.1
08:58 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down
08:58 est31 ah, thats the right check then?
08:58 rubenwardy !server checks the serverlist,  !up checks an IP :P
08:58 est31 i see
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09:46 Jordach yiss
09:47 Jordach nearly done with Sam's conversion to 1.8
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10:04 Jordach turns out RBA's shaders without maps are the tits
10:04 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screensh​ots/screenshot_20150717_105901.png
10:04 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screensh​ots/screenshot_20150717_110030.png
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10:06 kilbith you wanted Minetest evolution scheme, here it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D44aDQvWSx8
10:08 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Display an access denied message when client detects a server timeout 9c76f37 http://git.io/vmrfW (2015-07-17T12:06:30+02:00)
10:08 Jordach not upto date
10:08 Jordach :^)
10:08 kilbith it is
10:08 kilbith from the beginning (2010) to 14 feb 2015
10:08 kilbith oops
10:09 kilbith 14 july*
10:14 rubenwardy https://youtu.be/D44aDQvWSx8?t=45s
10:14 rubenwardy 2012 :P
10:14 rubenwardy - :P
10:15 rubenwardy When 0.4 was started
10:15 kilbith this is truly an organism
10:16 Jordach we;;
10:16 Jordach well
10:16 Jordach modern 0.4
10:16 Jordach not the original
10:16 Jordach the original had one "game" hardcoded
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10:17 Jordach also, it's hard to tell, but Sam II wears a little more clothing, and some things appear with a bit more depth
10:17 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screensh​ots/screenshot_20150717_111557.png
10:19 kilbith you should find a way for moving the bone head depending on the yaw
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10:20 Jordach RealBadAngel, HOLY SHIT
10:20 Jordach your shaders do work without maps
10:20 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screensh​ots/screenshot_20150717_105901.png
10:20 RealBadAngel suprised? ;)
10:20 RealBadAngel hi Jordach
10:21 Jordach also, how do i enable that minimap
10:21 RealBadAngel F9
10:21 RealBadAngel sneak + F9 toggles shape
10:22 Jordach i also converted Sam II's skin into a 1.8 style skin
10:22 RealBadAngel btw, minetest_game has now several hand made normal maps, theyre a bit better than autogen ones
10:24 rubenwardy RealBadAngel, is it possible to make a subgame where minimap is on by default?
10:25 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, in the future there will be an API to control minimap
10:25 rubenwardy okay
10:25 RealBadAngel so you could make it for example an craftable item
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10:25 RealBadAngel change the shape, control all its parameters, whatever
10:25 rubenwardy For my subgame, I'd like player positions to only be shown if they are line-of-sight to a member of the team the current player is on
10:26 est31 rubenwardy, you maintain a subgame?
10:26 rubenwardy ie: team red can only see a member of team blue if a member of team red can see thus member of team blue
10:26 rubenwardy !mod capturetheflag
10:26 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Could not find anything.
10:26 est31 makes sense
10:26 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&t=6947
10:27 rubenwardy I'm working on 1.0 right now
10:27 rubenwardy s/thus/said/
10:27 Amaz When do you think the minimap will get its api?
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10:31 Krock !mod capture the flag
10:31 MinetestBot Krock: City v City / Capture the Flag - Team Alloc by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6947
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10:31 rubenwardy yeah, figured that out
10:32 rubenwardy trying to update opengl now...
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10:36 Jordach oh
10:36 Jordach oooh
10:36 Jordach that explains the random patches at the edges of biomes in V5,7
10:39 RealBadAngel Amaz idk, its quite lots of things to code
10:40 Amaz Okay :) I can't wait till it's done though!
10:40 rubenwardy It would also be good to be able to place markers - images with positions associated with them
10:41 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, we do already have waypoints. minimap will show them
10:41 est31 we do??
10:42 RealBadAngel ofc, didnt you know that?
10:42 est31 no, where?
10:42 RealBadAngel UI has support for them
10:42 est31 i know that unified inventory has waypoints
10:42 RealBadAngel you just have to enable datastorage mod
10:42 est31 but didnt know that this is engine side
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10:42 est31 what is datastorage mod?
10:43 RealBadAngel est31, a mod that allows to write data on disk, per player
10:43 RealBadAngel an atempt to make mods data when we dont have still ability to save anything into database
10:43 est31 but either way i guess its not inside the engine, no?
10:44 RealBadAngel waypoints are engine hud element
10:44 est31 ah i see
10:45 rubenwardy How do I update openGL for xubuntu 14.04?
10:45 est31 you dont update an interface
10:45 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, with updating your video drivers, no other way
10:45 est31 its like asking how do i update http?
10:45 rubenwardy and how would you do that?
10:46 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, whats your GPU?
10:46 rubenwardy est31, I'm talking about going from opengl 2.1 to openfl 3.0
10:46 est31 rubenwardy, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
10:46 Jordach rubenwardy, ayy lmao, OpenGL 4.5 here
10:46 est31 thats the way if your drivers are inside package management
10:46 est31 if not, you have to find out how they got onto your box
10:47 rubenwardy I meant opengl 3.0+
10:47 rubenwardy btw, Jordach
10:47 est31 3.0 here
10:47 Jordach rubenwardy, waaaaaat
10:48 rubenwardy 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
10:48 est31 rubenwardy, Jordach pays a big price for having opengl 4.0, he has to endure windows
10:49 Jordach est31, nVidia drivers m8
10:49 Jordach i can get 4.4 on Linux if i wanted
10:49 Jordach (except, where the fuck is my CUDA support for Blender?!)
10:49 rubenwardy rubenwardy@rubenPC:~/dev/minetest$ glxinfo|grep "OpenGL version"
10:49 rubenwardy OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 10.7.0-devel (git-01cdbba 2015-07-17 trusty-oibaf-ppa)
10:49 rubenwardy :(
10:50 est31 OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.2
10:50 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, intel is rather a joke than GPU ;) your only option are dirvers provided by distribution
10:50 Calinou RealBadAngel, they do make proper GPUs that have first-class free drivers
10:50 Calinou their recent ones support OpenGL 3.3 on GNU/Linux, which is enough to run virtually any game
10:50 Calinou and soon OpenGL 4
10:51 RealBadAngel Calinou, they do proper GPUs to work in a spreadsheet or browse web
10:51 Calinou you can play games with them
10:51 RealBadAngel for gaming, sorry, their gpus are worth nothing
10:51 Calinou mine can even run Tesseract
10:51 RealBadAngel yeah, and sudoku
10:51 Jordach HAH
10:52 Jordach a forum website when searching rick roll redirects you to the video in question
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10:55 rubenwardy est31: what do I need to do?
10:55 rubenwardy video drivers?
10:56 est31 rubenwardy, whats your gfx card model?
10:56 RealBadAngel <rubenwardy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
10:57 est31 err
10:57 est31 thats not a model is it?
10:57 est31 they have fancier names
10:58 kilbith rubenwardy: the oibaf PPA is way too bleeding edge, try out this one instead : https://launchpad.net/~xorg​-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
10:58 kilbith only the latest stable mesa
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10:58 rubenwardy I just removed oibag
10:58 rubenwardy sudo apt-get ppa-add https://launchpad.net/~xorg​-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
10:58 kilbith no
10:58 rubenwardy sudo add-apt-repository
10:58 kilbith sudo apt-add-repositoru ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
10:59 kilbith sudo apt update
10:59 kilbith oops, typo
10:59 kilbith *apt-add-repository
10:59 rubenwardy yeah, I figured XD
11:00 kilbith you don't have suddent regression on xorg-edgers, unlike oibaf
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11:04 kilbith rubenwardy: also you should can benchmark your driver with : vblank_mode=0 glxgears
11:04 kilbith -should
11:04 Calinou xorg-edgers regressions do happen
11:04 kilbith it's only stable releases on xorg-edgers
11:05 kilbith oibaf is daily git for every changes
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11:19 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=12832
11:19 kilbith !title
11:19 MinetestBot kilbith: I am new to this game - Minetest Forums
11:20 rubenwardy "I just downloaded this game and realised that THIS GAME IS FUCKING CANCER!!!"
11:20 kilbith don't feed the troll
11:20 Krock That's our new slogan.
11:21 rubenwardy I misread the post and though it was a bot trying to sell minetest accounts
11:21 kilbith but he's right, MT is fucking cancerized by morons
11:24 mazal What's he actually trying to say ? I don't quite understand the post
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11:28 rubenwardy neither do I
11:32 est31 i think this is called "troll"
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12:22 est31 overriding my ssd with random data, 25 hours after start 278 GB are done
12:22 est31 this is 27 %
12:23 est31 what a shit device
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12:23 mazal And I thought ssd is supposed to be fast
12:23 est31 well yea
12:23 est31 but mine is an samsung 840
12:24 est31 im doing the random data wipe to give my ssd back to warranty
12:25 mazal I haven't done the change yet , but will remember " don't buy samsung " when I do
12:26 Calinou Samsung is also known for its backdoors on smartphones
12:27 mazal hmm
12:27 est31 meh, smartphones  are backdoored by design
12:28 est31 there is an application processor, and a second one thats connecting to the mobile network
12:28 est31 no phone is designed with isolation of that second one in mind
12:28 mazal Bye for now everyone
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12:46 est31 its running with 6 MiB/s now, and I like it, because its not 0 B/s
12:46 est31 it has that too, every time it generates a huge error in log
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13:50 Calinou working on nyan_tools mod for Carbone NG
13:50 Calinou will also be released separately
13:58 Calinou Nyan Tools done!
13:58 ThatGraemeGuy github link?
13:59 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/nyan_tools
13:59 ThatGraemeGuy mmm
14:00 ThatGraemeGuy not much use for the vast majority, it takes so long to find just 1 head, let alone 3 :-/
14:00 est31 no gitlab ? :D
14:00 ThatGraemeGuy maybe a head can be made craftable into something else which can use used for the tools
14:00 ThatGraemeGuy like the way mese crystals can be made into shards
14:01 est31 also, no gpl v 3.0 + license
14:01 est31 Calinou, you've changed
14:01 Calinou you do realize this is ~100 lines?
14:02 Jordach est31, you need to back the fuck up with this over the top FOSS stuff
14:03 ThatGraemeGuy pro tip, just let the vocal proponents do their thing, and do your own thing. life's too short :-)
14:03 est31 back up??
14:04 Amaz Jordach obviously doesn't want you to lose any of it ;)
14:04 est31 ThatGraemeGuy, idk, I'm 20 now, if i make it till 80 we perhaps have found out how to make life longer
14:05 Jordach and it probably won't be open source :^)
14:05 est31 however i guess assuming the worst is better
14:05 ThatGraemeGuy but would you really want to live that long?
14:05 est31 also, imo technology wont be the problem.
14:05 ThatGraemeGuy means more years at work
14:05 est31 yea
14:06 est31 well, work became less and less the last years
14:06 est31 err
14:06 est31 decades
14:06 est31 or centuries
14:06 est31 look at how much people work in countries that are industrializinh
14:06 est31 g*
14:07 ThatGraemeGuy from around 18 to around 60 or so where I'm from
14:07 ThatGraemeGuy that's more than half your life most likely
14:07 est31 no, not that time, but working hours per week
14:07 Calinou Half-Life 3
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14:17 kilbith https://www.freebsd.org/int​ernal/code-of-conduct.html
14:17 kilbith > Discrimination based on race O_o
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14:31 technomancy woooo carbone-ng
14:32 est31 Calinou, is it a design goal to make nyan cat tools so durable that you can mine solely with them, and have a positive output?
14:33 est31 or are they more intended as "luxury" items?
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14:35 Calinou nyan cats are pretty rare in minetest_game, you definitely can't use them as sole tools
14:35 Calinou and even in carbone-ng, have fun finding them in multiplayer
14:35 Calinou remember that each nyan cat is only 1 head...
14:36 Calinou most of the time you'll end up making a shovel
14:37 est31 seems you'll have to use the nyan data cruncher
14:37 est31 extract the seed, and find nyans!
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14:41 technomancy is it necessary to re-run cmake when you git pull, or just make?
14:42 Amaz Just make
14:42 Calinou just run make
14:42 technomancy cool
14:42 Calinou (most of the time)
14:42 Calinou some packages require a CMake re-run on update, this happened to me recently with Stunt Rally
14:42 technomancy because I don't remember the exact cmake instruction I had to flail around on to finally get luajit working
14:43 est31 technomancy, you will have to re-run cmake sometimes.
14:43 est31 but not always
14:43 est31 mostly if new files get added
14:43 est31 etc
14:43 Calinou if you're doing continuous integration you should always re-download a new archive
14:45 technomancy just want to play carbone-ng =)
14:45 technomancy looks like minetest.raillike_group was added recently
14:45 Calinou note that Carbone NG is a rebase on recent minetest_game, so you need a recent build; 0.4.12 stable won't work
14:45 Calinou it also lacks many things the original Carbone had, like silver and gold tools
14:46 Calinou or even coins (but those were annoying :P)
14:46 technomancy I'll live =)
14:46 Calinou it has a few new things like sprinting, HUD bars
14:46 technomancy shiny
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15:05 Wuzzy Carbone has [hudbars]? cool
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15:10 technomancy not a big fan of the hudbars TBH
15:10 technomancy is there a way to see the mob names in-game?
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15:13 technomancy err--assuming hudbars is the way carbone-ng displays health, that is. I preferred the health display from old carbone, but it's a minor point.
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15:39 twoelk hm, running a server with a map stored on a NAS on another place in the network doesn't seem to work that well :-(
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15:48 CWz Question how does one register keys in the source code. is that in the dev wiki?
15:49 est31 keys?
15:49 est31 I can give you a free license key for minetest
15:49 est31 000000000000
15:49 brothersome <key><Value>?
15:50 est31 ^ use that for the activation
15:50 CWz um nothing do to with want i asked
15:50 CWz i asked how to register keys not license keys
15:52 CWz but I think i may be wasting my time here. I will figure it out on my own
15:53 est31 CWz, that was meant as joke
15:53 est31 just say what you mean with keys
15:53 sofar CWz: what type of key are you talking about? there are no keys in the minecraft source, nor on any server
15:54 sofar ssh keys for access to github, perhaps?
15:54 jin_xi keyboard
15:55 sofar omg
15:55 sofar I never even thought of that type of key
15:55 sofar 8^)
15:56 sofar CWz: are you talking about keyboard keypress handling code?
15:57 CWz yes
15:58 sofar https://github.com/minetest/mine​test/blob/master/src/keycode.cpp ?
16:00 est31 ah that
16:00 est31 yea total spaghetti code
16:00 est31 its lotsa adding to tables and so on and so on
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16:18 nrzkt i don't thing we do better for this
16:18 nrzkt a table has the best performance in mapping
16:18 nrzkt it's what we use for packet handling
16:18 nrzkt and opcode table to find the right structure and handler
16:18 est31 but we have like gazillions of them
16:18 nrzkt but i agree est31: we should merge those tables into one table with struct
16:18 nrzkt it's better
16:18 est31 one table for the key, one for the event an extra one for the key setting cache
16:19 est31 then one for the settings themselve
16:19 est31 s
16:19 nrzkt one ring to rule them all
16:25 CWz Is minetest anticheat is as bad as VanessaE makes sound like it is. In never encountered  any serious issues with it
16:28 Calinou it's horrible
16:28 Calinou the anti-speedhack thing is incredibly broken
16:31 twoelk ACTION[ServerThread]: Player maximus moved too fast; resetting position  <- I get lots of this when players join
16:32 CWz most be related to being teleport to 0 0 0 on join.
16:32 nrzkt twoelk due to client lag generally
16:32 nrzkt if they lag they can go far and server didn't notice that
16:33 CWz anti-cheat is also missing anti-noclip
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17:32 CWz What is quicktune and what is it's use
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17:33 rubenwardy Please may a moderator move this to WIP Mods: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=6947
17:33 rubenwardy Well It's not a WIP actually
17:33 rubenwardy Just move it to Mod Releases
17:33 rubenwardy It's -RC because I may change the API slightly before then
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17:44 Calinou done
17:45 rubenwardy thank you
17:56 rubenwardy What would be better, Redis or Sqlite on a ramdisk?
17:56 rubenwardy My map will only ever by 160 x 160 nodes across
17:56 rubenwardy *be
17:56 rubenwardy I just need to be able to do minetest.delete_blocks quickly
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18:07 Calinou Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&amp;t=12834&amp;p=184680#p184680
18:08 Calinou to me, this is attacking a group of persons, and thus not allowed on forum...
18:08 Jordach we have strikethrough?
18:08 Jordach that works too
18:09 Calinou apparently there's no [s] or [strike]
18:09 Jordach dammmmmn
18:11 Calinou we should have a "Cakes" counter on this forum, like on the OpenArena forum
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18:13 Jordach no
18:14 Jordach more like mese crystals
18:25 yaman does minetest_game have separate hud than minetest, because I have found bug and I am unsure where to report it
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18:27 rubenwardy yaman, minetest
18:27 rubenwardy it doesn't have a separate one
18:27 yaman but it only occurs in minetest game
18:27 yaman I have tried same thing in minetest and I could not reproduce
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18:28 rubenwardy Do you mean minimal?
18:28 yaman yes
18:28 rubenwardy Don't use minimal
18:29 yaman I was testing my mod
18:29 rubenwardy minimal isn't Minetest
18:29 rubenwardy What is the bug you've found?
18:29 yaman http://codebin.org/view/1abdca05
18:30 yaman using this code in "init.lua" + "default" in depends.txt
18:30 yaman the hud looks like this, I will upload shortly
18:31 yaman http://i.imgur.com/DBy0s3Z.png
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18:33 AndroidKris Calinou: Carbone-ng still won't run for me. As of about 18 hours ago I git cloned again after seeing your update yesterday...still won't run.
18:33 AndroidKris Getting pastebin now.
18:35 AndroidKris http://pastebin.com/CFuDMS3N
18:35 AndroidKris thurr ya go.
18:36 rubenwardy the code looks perfectly fine
18:36 rubenwardy , yaman
18:36 rubenwardy You should report it in Minetest
18:36 rubenwardy no mtg
18:36 rubenwardy *not
18:37 yaman ok
18:37 AndroidKris brb
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18:41 AndroidKris guess whos back
18:41 AndroidKris back
18:41 AndroidKris back
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18:41 AndroidKris back again
18:42 AndroidKris miss me
18:42 AndroidKris ??
18:51 AndroidKris booting fresh debian live usb install bbl
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19:04 Krock wb AndroidKris, we all missed you so much
19:04 Krock I didn't know how to life without you!
19:05 AndroidKris Krock, sometimes...I don't know how to life either.
19:06 AndroidKris however, I did discover that I don't like Debian...at least not with KDE.
19:06 Krock Install windows
19:07 AndroidKris ....no
19:07 Calinou AndroidKris, try a daily build of Minetest
19:07 Calinou 0.4.12 won't work
19:07 Calinou (this will be fixed when 0.4.13 will be released)
19:07 AndroidKris for Carbone to work properly?
19:08 Calinou yes
19:08 Calinou also, for the GNU/Linux distribution, have you tried Fedora?
19:08 Calinou if you don't mind RPM distros, it can be a good choice
19:08 AndroidKris Krock. the wife is a windows fanatic...she can't wait for me to install win10.
19:09 AndroidKris Calinou, I tried Fedora...it felt to much like my OnePlus One android device.
19:09 AndroidKris I wonder...can I?
19:09 Krock AndroidKris, every 2nd version is good, like 2000, XP, 7 and 8.1, so 10 is bad
19:09 AndroidKris !minetest
19:10 AndroidKris dang.
19:10 AndroidKris Well. what about "9"?
19:10 Krock 9 was skipped, it sounds like "no" in german
19:11 Calinou Krock, ehm... that sentence was never true to begin with
19:11 Calinou people claim they know Windows by saying "hey, every 2nd version is good"
19:11 brothersome Triple 9    === Triple W (wow,wow,wow) is the number of the evil
19:11 Calinou but they don't
19:12 AndroidKris I know windows....and it all sucks
19:12 Calinou 9 was skipped because of compatibility issues
19:12 AndroidKris so HA
19:12 Calinou some software checks for Windows 9*
19:12 Calinou which would include Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows 9
19:12 Krock Calinou, what's the version number used for, then?
19:13 Krock Windows 7 is not 7.0
19:13 AndroidKris "This year, we put a 10 on the box"
19:13 AndroidKris HAHAHAHAHAHA
19:13 AndroidKris latest "unstable" minetest version okay to run without to much trouble?
19:13 Krock I love to troll linux users with windows talk :3
19:14 Calinou yes, AndroidKris
19:14 brothersome I think Lubuntu is a much better distribution than Windows 10 - special for its virus ability
19:14 xenkey AndroidKris: Only if you put your computer on top of a mint tea packet first
19:14 xenkey Otherwise it segfaults
19:14 AndroidKris Krock, I became a linux user because of windows.
19:14 xenkey Its virus ability?
19:14 Pie-jacker875 I don't remember why I switched to gnu
19:14 Calinou brothersome, good old "viruses" are simply no longer a thing...
19:14 xenkey gnu?
19:15 xenkey Everyone here needs to go learn some basic stuff
19:15 xenkey Except Calinou
19:15 xenkey You're good
19:15 AndroidKris can I update via command line?
19:15 xenkey Yes
19:16 brothersome AndroidKris, Ubuntu can
19:16 xenkey What OS?
19:16 TBC_x the easiest way to get rid of those sophisticated viruses is to start wireshark on every startup
19:16 xenkey ...
19:16 xenkey I'm just going to hang myself
19:16 AndroidKris xenkey. for basic computer stuffs. Harvard University holds a free online class for anyone that has the ability to access it for computer basics.
19:16 AndroidKris Not sure what it includes though.
19:17 xenkey Okay...
19:17 xenkey You should take it
19:17 AndroidKris Just fyi.
19:17 AndroidKris I did....like eight years ago
19:21 brothersome Read some books of Tanenbaum and do a BASIC course and you know enough
19:24 Calinou I'm on Capture the FLag
19:24 Calinou Flag*
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19:29 AndroidKris I'm still stuck on how to update minetest to latest nightly via command line..google isn't helping much
19:31 Calinou AndroidKris, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
19:31 Calinou easy peasy :)
19:33 AndroidKris currently saved worlds will be okay after running that update command?
19:38 AndroidKris Also, my mods folder...will it stay in place?
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19:50 AndroidKris screw it. copypasta my .minetest folder to desktop for backup and run the script anyway
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19:56 MinetestBot [git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix not_in_creative_inventory da9789e http://git.io/vm6AT (2015-07-17T20:53:55+01:00)
19:56 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Grant multiple tiles on stairs model 26866e4 http://git.io/vm6Ak (2015-07-17T20:53:32+01:00)
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20:01 Testman hey eveybody
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20:07 AndroidKris giting is at 65%
20:07 AndroidKris git pull
20:09 AndroidKris clone...not pull
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20:11 Testman clone?
20:11 Testman bye
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20:19 AndroidKris Ha, Calinou. you are the man. Carbone works now.
20:20 AndroidKris Now...what's the point? Survival?
20:21 Calinou AndroidKris, the same as minetest_game
20:21 Calinou :)
20:21 AndroidKris FREEDOM!!!!
20:21 AndroidKris lawl.
20:28 AndroidKris Start exploring and what is one of the first things I see??? NYAN CAT!!!
20:29 H-H-H lucky bugger
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20:29 H-H-H i been exploring for days and not seen one lol
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20:42 TBC_x how come a makefile downloads stuff from the net?
20:42 AndroidKris It was flyin by just out of sight. I barely caught the outline of it and was gonna blow it off as part of the surrounding hills, then I realized that the hills werent that tall...
20:43 TBC_x or was that makepkg prepare()?
20:44 TBC_x damn sf
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21:01 AndroidKris Also, mese...above sea level...exposed on the side of a cliff....wtf
21:04 RealBadAngel seems that the aliens crashed on that cliff. shit happens ;)
21:05 Amaz AndroidKris, I advise looking at it carefully :)
21:05 RealBadAngel thats what can happen when you fly and chat at the same time.... ;)
21:05 AndroidKris it's the old school mese...the solid gold looking block with MESE written on the sides.
21:06 AndroidKris I'm hunting for the materials to build a pickaxe that'll mine it.
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21:11 Xenoth TBC_x: I've never seen the makefile download anything.
21:12 TBC_x it was prepare() in pkgbuild
21:12 TBC_x had to modify the url to use github instead of sf
21:12 TBC_x making custom build of irrlicht
21:13 Xenoth Hm.
21:14 H-H-H i just had to borrow irrlicht from another machine thats used to auto build minetest to do a local build
21:17 AndroidKris Holy crap...another Nyan Cat.
21:20 VanessaE I don't mine enough.  in three years, I've never found one.
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21:23 H-H-H UNRECOVERABLE error occurred. Stopping server. Please fix the following error:minetest/bin/../buil​tin/game/register.lua:330: assertion failed!
21:23 H-H-H thats not good lol
21:24 H-H-H i got that when i hit another player and it crashed the server lol
21:25 H-H-H full log http://pastebin.com/U3nuDuDy
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21:49 AndroidKris VanessaE, I'm not even trying. I'm just walking around and spotted them flying by.
21:50 VanessaE heh
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23:36 sloantothebone Hello
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23:39 sloantothebone Hi stormchaser3000
23:39 sloantothebone hey Xenoth have you got orbiter running yet?
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