Time  Nick           Message
02:20 MinetestBot    02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add new texture for leaves, jungle leaves and style simple 130c5f6da http://git.io/vmfY0 (152015-07-13T03:17:26+01:00)
02:23 hoodedice      nice!
02:46 luizrpgluiz    hi all
03:10 hoodedice      ayy
04:59 haaaaa         how do I store a variable even if the game is restarted?
05:16 haaaaa         What is a good way to generate a random integer?
05:17 VanessaE       for the first question, save your variable in a file on disk.
05:17 VanessaE       for the second, look up math.random()
06:01 haaaaa         thankyou
06:02 haaaaa         how to override action of eating default apple?
06:16 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, best would be to redefine the item
06:17 haaaaa         as in I register the item with the same definition except for the part I want to change?
06:18 RealBadAngel   you will have to use ":default:apple" propably
06:18 RealBadAngel   to override it
06:19 VanessaE       you can also use the override_item() call too
06:19 VanessaE       that one lets you redefine just PART of the item instead of having to do the whole thing
06:19 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1753
06:19 VanessaE       that's the one
06:21 haaaaa         thankyou
06:21 haaaaa         i was not aware of this api's existence i thought it is all contained in dev.minetest.net
06:22 RealBadAngel   the file is present in every build
06:24 LazyJ          RealBadAngel, would you mind creating a forum post with tips for creating normalmaps in GIMP?
06:24 LazyJ          Please. :)
06:24 RealBadAngel   i am not using gimp, effects produced by gimp normalmap plugin are not any good
06:25 LazyJ          Ah.
06:25 RealBadAngel   hold on
06:25 LazyJ          What do you recommend?
06:25 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/kmkolasinski/AwesomeBump
06:26 LazyJ          Thanks ;)
06:26 RealBadAngel   its powerfull tool, but kinda hard to get used to
06:27 RealBadAngel   ive spent a few days with "fucks" flying around ;)
06:27 LazyJ          Any harder than using the command-line for minetestmapper?
06:27 RealBadAngel   i dont think so ;)
06:28 LazyJ          If not, I've survived that one OK. A bit warped afterwards but still OK.
06:28 RealBadAngel   one tip: to get rid of built-in grid effects, load diffuse then in its tab "enable preview" and "copy to N-H" then disable preview
06:29 LazyJ          Ok, thanks.
06:29 RealBadAngel   N_H here is normalmap and heightmap
06:30 LazyJ          It's late for me but normalmaps are something I want to improve on the texture pack I use (a mix of other tp's and custom stuff... a mess).
06:30 RealBadAngel   and, when exporting the map, select the one combined, with heightmap in normalmap's alpha channel
06:30 RealBadAngel   thats the format we are using
06:31 LazyJ          Ah-hah.
06:31 LazyJ          GIMP's result have been mixed.
06:31 LazyJ          Wasn't sure what I was doing wrong or if the normalmap feature of Minetest was still too young.
06:31 RealBadAngel   it is very mature by now
06:32 LazyJ          Ran into several blackend nodes when using the colorized function on a mod.
06:32 RealBadAngel   we are using parallax with slope information and relief mapping + bumpmapping ofc
06:32 RealBadAngel   default mode is relief mapping
06:33 RealBadAngel   since yesterday mintest_game supports relief mapping (at least for some nodes by now)
06:33 LazyJ          Which is easier for Minetest to handle atm,... Minetest's shader options or creating normalmaps from AwesomeBump?
06:34 RealBadAngel   autogen is slow and faulty
06:34 LazyJ          Ah.
06:34 RealBadAngel   it cannot simple detect the shapes
06:35 RealBadAngel   its mean to be used combined with supplied normalmaps
06:35 RealBadAngel   in case when theres no hand made map, it will make one on the fly
06:36 RealBadAngel   there are cases it works pretty decent, but also have fails like in case of bricks
06:37 LazyJ          A limit to how small of detail would be enough to stand out?
06:37 RealBadAngel   normalmap have to be greater resolution than used 16px
06:37 LazyJ          Or, probably more likely, what is reasonable given the quality of the monitor, strength of the computer and just plain some things aren't worth being bumpy.
06:37 RealBadAngel   absolute minimum for it is 128x
06:38 RealBadAngel   this doesnt make game any slower because of it
06:38 LazyJ          Heh. So much for enhancing my favorite 64px texture pack.
06:38 RealBadAngel   only memory reqs may apply there
06:38 RealBadAngel   wait, thats no problem
06:39 RealBadAngel   upscale it to 256x
06:39 RealBadAngel   make map on it
06:39 RealBadAngel   later on you will use original resolution pack, with upscaled normals
06:40 RealBadAngel   default minetest_game one are 256x, while textures are 16x
06:40 LazyJ          Ah. Good info.
06:41 RealBadAngel   shaders do not care of the image size
06:41 RealBadAngel   for them coords are in range 0 - 1, no matter the real size of the image
06:42 RealBadAngel   be it zillions px or 16 px
06:44 LazyJ          Thanks, RealBadAngel.  ;)
06:45 RealBadAngel   btw, autogen is using method similiar to gimp one
06:45 RealBadAngel   so dont expect gimp to produce any better normal map than autogen did ;)
06:53 LazyJ          Ah.
06:53 LazyJ          I hadn
06:54 LazyJ          Ak..
06:54 LazyJ          I hadn't messed with Autogen.
06:55 LazyJ          Time for this working stiff to crawl into bed. The Monday grind begins in a few hours.
07:44 haaaaa         is there a reason this doesn't work?  minetest.override_item("default:apple", {on_use = new_apple()})
07:45 haaaaa         new_apple is linked to a function in the mod, there are no errors but the apple doesn't seem to be overridden
07:46 haaaaa         nvm I have found the erro
08:00 haaaaa         on trying to override item, I get an error saying "attempt to override non-existent item default:apple", is there a reason for this?
08:04 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, maybe your mod is loaded BEFORE default
08:05 RealBadAngel   make it depending on default, so it will be executed after
08:11 haaaaa         ok thanks
08:18 haaaaa         how can I get player from on_use override?
08:19 Krock          haaaaa, override the field "on_use" with function(itemstack, user, pointed_thing) .. end
08:19 Krock          user:get_player_name() returns the player name
08:20 haaaaa         thank you Krock
08:21 Krock          np. If you want to keep the old on_use function, just add a new variable above the override function: local old_on_use = minetest.registered_nodes["node:name"].on_use
08:21 Krock          and then call that one in your new on_use function
08:22 haaaaa         thank you
08:29 haaaaa         it is working but for apple isn't removed from inventory, is there a mistake?
08:29 haaaaa         local oldApple = minetest.registered_nodes["default:apple"].on_use
08:29 haaaaa         oldApple(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)
08:30 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, please paste whole code
08:30 RealBadAngel   pastie.org
08:30 GrandChaos9000 anyone there yet?
08:31 RealBadAngel   GrandChaos9000, no, we are all just bots
08:31 GrandChaos9000 but there was a problem, if you sleep on the bed while walking, it gliched out from walking backwards.
08:32 GrandChaos9000 and also sleeping pose was still missing yet
08:32 GrandChaos9000 glitched*
08:34 haaaaa         http://codebin.org/view/b78f2274
08:34 RealBadAngel   propably theres no sleep animation yet in
08:34 GrandChaos9000 i know, they're would be soon to fix or not.
08:35 GrandChaos9000 they'll*
08:35 RealBadAngel   GrandChaos9000, fill in an issue on it
08:35 GrandChaos9000 so where is it
08:35 GrandChaos9000 github?
08:37 haaaaa         RealBadAngel, have you found reason?
08:37 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues
08:38 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, not yet, reading your code now
08:38 GrandChaos9000 ah,
08:38 GrandChaos9000 i knew it
08:38 GrandChaos9000 i'm trying to join my github account later
08:40 haaaaa         would you like explanation of what mod is aiming to do?
08:41 RealBadAngel   nah, i can see it
08:42 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/flashlight.lua#L38
08:42 RealBadAngel   please do read that code
08:43 RealBadAngel   this should fix your issue
08:48 haaaaa         what does inv:get_list("main") return?
08:48 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, players main inventory
08:48 RealBadAngel   slots 1-8 are hotbar there
08:48 haaaaa         as a dictionary?
08:49 Krock          as alist
08:49 RealBadAngel   table
08:49 GrandChaos9000 and finally i joined it!
08:49 haaaaa         ok
08:49 GrandChaos9000 second, i'll decide to post my first issue
08:49 RealBadAngel   do note that updating the stack is required for changes to be permament
08:49 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/flashlight.lua#L47
08:50 RealBadAngel   without writing the stack back all changes will be lost
08:50 RealBadAngel   youre working on a copy of a stack, its not the pointer to it
08:51 haaaaa         oh ok
08:51 haaaaa         what is the meaning of this line: local meta = minetest.deserialize(hotbar[i]:get_metadata()) ?
08:52 RealBadAngel   meta can store anything
08:52 RealBadAngel   data kept there is serialized
08:52 RealBadAngel   to get table back you need to deserialize it
08:52 haaaaa         is the amount of item stored in the meta?
08:53 RealBadAngel   no
08:53 RealBadAngel   meta is your data, whatever you want to store in it
08:54 haaaaa         ok
08:57 haaaaa         for now I will stay with .item_eat() but perhaps in the future I will try to add to current definition rather than replace thanks for the help
08:59 RealBadAngel   no problemo
09:02 haaaaa         nevermind, I will do it now because I think I understand
09:13 JamesTait      Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Embrace Your Geekness Day! 😃
09:17 Krock          moin
09:22 rubenwardy     lol
09:22 rubenwardy     oh no! I forgot
09:22 rubenwardy     "Hi all!"
09:24 Krock          "\"Hi everybody\""
09:25 haaaaa         inv:set_stack() does not seem to be changing the value of the inventory, what is the way to do so?
09:27 Krock          what's the exact code you're using?
09:27 haaaaa         I am now getting a different error: expecting item stack, itemstring, or nil, (let me upload my code)
09:28 haaaaa         http://codebin.org/view/caf97387
09:29 Krock          hotbar is not an array
09:29 Krock          use hotbar:get_stack(i):get_name()
09:30 haaaaa         oh ok
09:30 Krock          you don't need to use set_stack when take_item is called IIRC
09:32 Krock          remember on_use can return an item stack, so remove the first line and add "return oldApple(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)" at the end
09:34 Krock          ^ haaaaa
09:36 haaaaa         wow, that is very helpful, thank you!
09:36 haaaaa         ^ Krock
09:37 Krock          np
11:47 GrandChaos9000 there you have it
11:48 GrandChaos9000 i've posted my issue from minetest repository on github
11:56 SopaXT         Damn!
11:57 Krock          Good afternoon, SopaXT :)
11:57 SopaXT         The git repo branch contains hex digits 'dead'
11:58 Krock          I'd prefer 0xC0FFEE
11:58 SopaXT         Hi!
12:10 SopaXT2        Are there any 12-year-olds besides me who use linux
12:11 Calinou        SopaXT2, well I used to be 12 and to use GNU/Linux :-)
12:11 Calinou        that was years ago though :)
12:16 crecca         I wasn't that smart, I got into linux at my first year on polytechnic
12:17 crecca         most likely I wouldn't drop out then if I started sooner, so good riddance SopaXT2 :)
12:22 Amaz           SopaXT2, I probably began using it when I was 12... Not that long ago!
12:44 swift110-phone Hmm
12:53 SopaXT2        I am using it for 2-3 years continuous
12:54 SopaXT2        I like it!
12:54 SopaXT2        Even having a licensed windows-7 HomeExt
12:55 SopaXT2        Not even dualboot!
12:58 Krock          I don't have Linux! Not even dualboot!
13:02 CWz            your loss
13:10 swift110-phone Aww
13:47 crecca         kenney's mods are one of the best ideas I've ever seen in modding
13:48 crecca         the player model from voxus is simple and brilliant
13:48 crecca         i.imgur.com/F24Aozp.png
13:48 crecca         his designs are impecable
13:49 crecca         impeccable*
13:54 crecca         too bad he moved it away from minetest
14:00 Calinou        too blocky :P
14:04 crecca         I would just make it a single node with a smiley face on it!
14:23 rubenwardy     How can I change the seed of a world whilst it's running?
14:24 rubenwardy     I want to reset it from the code - minetest.delete_area the world, then change the seed, then map generates again
14:25 rubenwardy     damn it https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1959
14:26 rubenwardy     Basically I want to make a Capture the Flag server where the map resets after a game is finished, and a new map is generated, without disconnecting players
14:26 rubenwardy     The map resetting can't take more than 5 - 10 seconds
14:29 rubenwardy     I guess it's enough to just reset the map without changing the seeds
14:29 rubenwardy     but it's pretty slow - 5/10 seconds for just a 40x40x40 area
14:55 xenkey         Hi
15:44 rubenwardy     XD   https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/commit/5264cc034a200693905b01304c980823dcf44c92
15:49 haaaaa         How to override digging speed of default hand? is it like any other item?
15:51 rubenwardy     The item name is ""
15:51 rubenwardy     So you can do minetest.override_item(":") or minetest.register_craftitem(":", {})
15:51 rubenwardy     1sec
15:53 rubenwardy     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/register.lua#L305
15:53 rubenwardy     hmmm
15:53 rubenwardy     maybe not
15:53 rubenwardy     I don't know
15:54 haaaaa         thank you rubenwardy
16:04 RealBadAngel   haaaaa, creative mod does that
16:04 RealBadAngel   when using it digging is almost instant
16:05 RealBadAngel   frankly i hate that "feature"
16:05 haaaaa         ok I will look into it
16:05 RealBadAngel   line 137
16:06 RealBadAngel   /creative/init.lua
16:10 haaaaa         thanks RealBadAngel that was helpful
16:29 haaaaa         would it be better to create 2 global steps or 1 if I want an event to occur every 10 seconds and an event every 20 seconds
16:31 nore           haaaaa: the least globalsteps, the better
16:33 rubenwardy     > Editing a file in nano
16:33 rubenwardy     > Pressed ctrl+z
16:33 rubenwardy     :'(
16:33 sd1001         Why are you editing a file in nano in the first place? :P
16:33 rubenwardy     vps
16:34 rubenwardy     I'm ssh-ing into my vps to configure it
16:34 sd1001         Sure, but why nano?
16:34 rubenwardy     because it's simpler than VM or whatever
16:34 rubenwardy     vim
16:34 sfan5          nano is easiest
16:34 sd1001         ahh
16:35 sd1001         Wait, if ^Z suspended it, try using 'fg'
16:35 sfan5          rubenwardy: ctrl+z doesn't do anything in nano for me
16:35 rubenwardy     It quits the process for me
16:35 sd1001         wat
16:36 sd1001         Quits, not suspends?
16:36 Calinou        rubenwardy, type "fg"
16:36 Calinou        (foreground)
16:46 rubenwardy     How can I guarantee that a set_node works?
16:46 RealBadAngel   read it back
16:47 RealBadAngel   you will know if it has failed or not
16:48 RealBadAngel   propably it can fail when some protection mods are active
17:05 rubenwardy     I was thinking more failing on unloaded blocks.
17:33 rubenwardy     RealBadAngel, what I meant was that I want a snippet which is guaranteed to set a node
17:33 rubenwardy     ie: it loads the block if it isn't already
17:33 rubenwardy     or mapgens it
17:33 rubenwardy     do I use minetest.get_voxel_manip([pos1, pos2])?
17:37 H-H-H          hey can anyone remind me of the mod that says the item name above the inv hotbar like in MC ?
17:56 Dartmouth      unified_inventory does that, altho that it a complete inventory. afaik there is another single one, but I can't remember what it's called... :/
18:03 H-H-H          its called 4itemnames i just found it on my hard drive
18:03 H-H-H          ty anyway though :)
18:13 H-H-H          4itemnames mod by 4aiman
18:28 RealBadAngel   itemnames are a part of UI
18:37 SopaXT         ******!
18:41 haaaaa         Do you think the trouble of baking one bread is worth getting another hotbar space?
18:45 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgv6/treegen: (Re)Add fallback nodes for compatibility with subgames 1366ea356 http://git.io/vmINE (152015-07-13T19:41:26+01:00)
19:40 AndroidKris    HI all, I need to know if it is possible to create just a "ring" with the worldedit gui.
19:42 AndroidKris    I've selected two points of opposite corners of a square, but I'm unsure as to weather or not I can use those two points to create a ring of [node type]
19:42 AndroidKris    eg: dirt, stone, etc.
20:16 paramat        Amaz also, when you define a biome that alters stone only, you need the lines 'depth_top = 0,' and 'depth_filler = -4,' to disable grass and dirt. see my 'underground' biome in my biomesdev mod
20:16 paramat        also make sure to include the 'clear registered biomes/decorations' lines before your definitions
20:19 Amaz           Okay, thanks :)
20:19 paramat        https://github.com/paramat/biomesdev
21:09 bobomb         any voxelArea gurus or adepts here?
21:48 sfan5          !op
21:49 sfan5          !deop
22:28 Soni           add a diffing client chunk cache, if you don't have one yet
23:42 luizrpgluiz    hi all