Time  Nick           Message
06:57 swift110-phone Hry
06:58 sfan5          Hry
07:39 technomancy    the wiki claims that the player that started the server cannot have any privileges revoked, but I find that hard to believe
07:40 technomancy    is it really true that you can't host a server *and* play non-creative at the same time?
07:41 est31          thats possible
07:41 est31          I think#
07:41 technomancy    I have found that /revoke playername creative has no effect
07:41 sfan5          if you start the server from the server tab the "name" settings is set to your name
07:42 sfan5          the player with the name in the "name" settings always has all by-default privs
07:42 sfan5          and cannot have them revoked
07:42 technomancy    that seems like a problem
07:42 sfan5          if you don't want that you need to start a server from the command line
07:42 technomancy    I see; I guess that works
07:43 technomancy    thanks
07:55 technomancy    ok, so that didn't work
07:55 technomancy    starting from the CLI I still can't revoke privs
08:07 sfan5          technomancy: you need to remove the name variable from the config the server is using
08:11 mazal          sfan5, thanx for the new build
08:12 sfan5          mazal: if you want a new build you can just tell me
08:12 sfan5          i tend to forget to make as a build every week/2 weeks/whatever
08:13 mazal          sfan5, I only use yours , is the only ones that is stable for me and been waiting for a new one :)
08:30 technomancy    sfan
08:30 technomancy    err
08:31 technomancy    sfan5: I see, so it ignores the --name arg on the CLI if it's set in the conf file?
08:33 technomancy    or it allows both values maybe"
08:39 technomancy    ok, now I'm logged in as a different user and I only have privs interact and shout, but I don't get anything in my inventory when I dig nodes
09:26 Calinou        added sheep and rats to hunger games, they drop respectively a bread and an apple
09:26 est31          lol
09:26 est31          rly?
09:26 est31          have some sense of realism :)
09:26 est31          extreme heat doesnt free you from that responsibility
09:27 Calinou        I didn't want to bother adding new items for hunger compatibility :/
09:36 Calinou        my server also has sprinting, 3D torches too
09:57 MinetestBot    someguy_irc: 07-03 12:16 UTC <Krock> alert() unreachable because return is called before (quit message)
10:43 xenkey         Hi all!
10:44 Calinou        hi xenkey
10:45 xenkey         sup Calinou
14:18 swift110-phone Hey
14:26 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/trees: Add checks for air/ignore/needles to pinetree trunk 13585b2bc http://git.io/vq3wO (152015-07-05T15:23:55+01:00)
14:40 swift110-phone Hmm
15:01 * CWz          wonders if her are anyo ther kernels besides Linux and BSD that support desktop environments
15:02 Calinou        Hurd has graphical support, I think, but I'm not sure
15:06 swift110-phone Hey calinou
15:06 Calinou        hi
15:06 Calinou        building ilbot, takes so long
15:06 swift110-phone Do u still work with stk?
15:07 Calinou        no
15:08 swift110-phone Oh what happened
15:12 sloantothebone What happened to inchra?
15:13 Calinou        connect to digitalaudioconcepts.com, sloantothebone
15:21 xenkey         CWz: Plan 9
15:21 Jordach        mmm
15:21 Jordach        beer
15:21 xenkey         It's a hybrid kernel though, not monolithic like the UNIX based ones
15:27 TheWild        about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2879
15:27 TheWild        maybe here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/player.h#L192
15:52 Jordach        wow
15:52 Jordach        Codeplex is nice
15:52 Jordach        "Ad revenue goes to the TerraMap (Terraria World Map Viewer) project owners to help sponsor their efforts. Click here if your browser does not start the download automatically."
15:52 Jordach        they give ad rev to them as donations
15:53 Calinou        ads are still a bad thing though
15:53 Calinou        especially if they are targeted, and thus privacy-invading
15:55 hmmmm          ads are a security risk
15:55 hmmmm          if you're a windows user, anyway
16:00 swift110-phone Hmm
16:45 TBC_x          hmm... does minetest have any unit tests at all?
16:49 AnotherBrick   TBC_x : yes https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/master/src/unittest
16:51 AnotherBrick   don't know is there any mechanism for running them automatically or not
16:52 TBC_x          oh... didn't expect it would be inside src/
17:05 est31          cupoif
17:05 est31          err
17:05 est31          sry
17:05 AnotherBrick   aha
17:06 est31          yea you
17:06 est31          seen you did tests?
17:06 AnotherBrick   i did
17:07 est31          it breaks on just test you say, in which way?
17:08 AnotherBrick   i see only "<" and sometime ">"'s in chat
17:08 AnotherBrick   also lots of trash in console
17:09 est31          any difference with other servers?
17:09 est31          can you dump an example string on a working server
17:12 AnotherBrick   can you log on to VanessaE's vanilla server and say something non-english?
17:14 est31          done
17:15 AnotherBrick   looked like taast with double dots above both a's
17:15 est31          yes
17:15 AnotherBrick   still need that dump?
17:16 est31          I need a hexdump yes
17:18 est31          because its very weird that it doesn't work on justtest
17:19 luizrpgluiz    hi
17:19 AnotherBrick   it's not weird. it send chat msgs in wide format
17:19 est31          thats the old format
17:19 est31          but vanessae's server should send in that format too
17:20 haiku          !server megaf
17:20 MinetestBot    haiku: No results
17:20 haiku          !server Megaf
17:20 MinetestBot    haiku: No results
17:21 haiku          Megaf_, is the server down?
17:21 haiku          hi :)
17:21 red1           The reset  password page doesn't send an email to me
17:22 AnotherBrick   ok, here's input. your taast is somewhere in that: 3c657374746573743e20736d616c6c206e6f6e20656e676c69736820746573743a2074c3
17:22 red1           where can I report this bug
17:22 est31          red1, thats no bug, thats missing functionality
17:23 red1           ok
17:23 red1           :(
17:27 est31          AnotherBrick, it works for me on justtest
17:29 AnotherBrick   hmm...
17:31 TheWild        about smooth lighting: How the light levels or vertices are calculated from faces? Is it maximum, minimum or average?
17:32 AnotherBrick   est31 : you're using linux, right?
17:32 est31          yes
17:35 AnotherBrick   and here's taast after conversion: 7400e400e40073007400. looks valid to me
17:36 AnotherBrick   what i've got on just test - already posted in comment
17:39 AnotherBrick   does server somehow use client's locale to form messages for client?
17:39 est31          no
17:39 est31          the server just handles the strings as they come and go
17:40 est31          it depends on the other client's locale
17:40 est31          with the change, the server will do conversions, but only if somebody with a recent client talks with sb with an old client
17:41 est31          it wont do conversion if two legacy clients talk with each other, to avoid problems there.
17:41 est31          so you say you only see "<" ?
17:41 AnotherBrick   yeah
17:42 est31          is it only that single < or is the screen full with <s?
17:45 est31          hrmm I can reproduce
17:46 AnotherBrick   now it's only one <, but previously i got several <'s and >'s. it's ill conversion, whatever might happen
17:48 AnotherBrick   how do you reproduce it?
17:48 est31          I had to rebuild
18:04 est31          AnotherBrick, I get some other input
18:04 est31          in fact, its very strange
18:08 AnotherBrick   est31: what it looks like?
18:27 AnotherBrick   changed  in handleCommand_ChatMessage check of m_proto_ver to strictly greater than 26, now i see chat, though looks like no one see my messages
18:38 RealBadAngel   Jordach, here?
18:41 est31          ah, AnotherBrick I have a suspicion
18:41 AnotherBrick   est31 : changed protocol version check to >26 when sending messages, looks like now others can read my messages too
18:41 est31          AnotherBrick, thats not the way to fix it
18:41 est31          the problem is m_proto_ver is wrong
18:42 AnotherBrick   who define it? server or clietn?
18:42 est31          its sent by the server to the client, but only for >= 25 protocol
18:43 est31          just test has < 25 protocol I guess
18:43 est31          uses old init packets
18:43 AnotherBrick   no
18:43 est31          I know how to fix it
18:43 AnotherBrick   it's 1a
18:43 AnotherBrick   which is 26
18:46 AnotherBrick   at least i've got 26 at handleCommand_ChatMessage
18:48 Jordach        RealBadAngel, JA
18:48 RealBadAngel   Jordach, https://imgrush.com/QnUp3FBFt1qF.png
18:48 AnotherBrick   is there a fast way to redirect infostream into file?
18:48 Jordach        i see a MediaCrush fork :D
18:48 Jordach        RealBadAngel, too lose and uncubic due to the nature of normals and height maps
18:49 Jordach        loose
18:49 Jordach        however, can you focus on custom mesh wield items with armature defined keyframes similar to playeer models?
18:50 RealBadAngel   Jordach, not now, also i havent coded yet anything related to animated models
18:51 Jordach        RealBadAngel, i meant having a custom mesh for tools, instead of pre-extruded models
18:51 Jordach        that custom mesh can have an armature like entities for use, build and dig animations
18:51 RealBadAngel   doable, but not now
18:51 RealBadAngel   need to polish already made features
18:52 Jordach        tools and craftitems should have always had that option
18:54 RealBadAngel   try asking kahrl bout that
18:55 RealBadAngel   he made wieldmesh anyway
19:28 Calinou        hunger games anyone?
19:30 Krock          Strange things happen today. I'm able to control the CPU voltage now and just noticed I get +/- the same FPS ingame as with the double CPU speed
19:51 TBC_x          Krock: try to use software rendering :)
19:51 Krock          TBC_x, no. I want burnings video
19:52 TBC_x          you may get the double fps then ;)
19:52 Krock          I hope so
19:53 TBC_x          if you're comparing software rendering
19:53 TBC_x          though if you're getting almost the same fps the bottle neck may be the GPU
19:54 TBC_x          unless it's throttled by the game
19:55 Calinou        you doubled CPU speed? how is your PC even booting?
19:55 Krock          Calinou, it's at (less than) the half speed now, so double is normal
19:56 Krock          The reference point is important in this case
20:01 Sokomine       hm, strange. i tried a recend mc demo and it was extremly slow - even with graphics set to the lowest. not playable...
20:02 Calinou        the Beta 1.3 demo?
20:02 Calinou        Minecraft used to be very slow
20:03 Sokomine       no, the current one. i wanted to see how it works now. has been a while since i last tried it. with java updated, i thought it might make a change
20:07 Sokomine       the squids that swam around where very nice. but apart from that, all i got is a slideshow. perhaps it does take a lot of tuning to run
20:07 Sokomine       well, anyway...mt lets me change the game far more easily :-)
20:37 RealBadAngel   Calinou, any comments on grass?
20:37 RealBadAngel   https://imgrush.com/QnUp3FBFt1qF
20:38 Calinou        I don't know why but all your edits make the game too "noisy" to me
20:39 RealBadAngel   in case of sand or stone softening was good, but grass imho with some more shadows is just a bit more juicy green imho
20:40 RealBadAngel   idk why i used imho twice ;)
21:11 H-H-H          that grass and sand look cool
21:44 LinuxGuy2020   Is there a way to use mesecons without running wires all over the rooms for lights? I saw something about digilines. I assume thats something about wireless maybe?
21:46 haiku          Megaf_,  are you here?
21:46 haiku          hi all
21:52 RealBadAngel   LinuxGuy2020, theyre not wireless
21:54 LinuxGuy2020   How can I place a mese light on a room cieling and switch on the wall and wire them. I cant get the wiring to stick to the wall. It just places horizontal to the wall.
21:54 RealBadAngel   use vertical mesecons
21:56 RealBadAngel   there are not yet wires that can be placed at the floor and climb the walls in one
21:59 LinuxGuy2020   I tried placeing a switch on the wall and virtical wire on the wall. Mesecon lamp two blocks above on the wall. I tried a vertical wire between and it just places a base with wire going up in the middle. So not sure what Im doing wrong or its just not able to do this.
22:34 diemartin      Greetings
22:56 haiku          !server Megaf
22:56 MinetestBot    haiku: No results
23:06 RealBadAngel   !server megaf.co.vu
23:06 MinetestBot    RealBadAngel: No results
23:07 RealBadAngel   !server minetest.megaf.info
23:07 MinetestBot    RealBadAngel: No results