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00:06 Sokomine LinuxGuy2020: the areas mod is very good. use it in combination with my markers mod if you want some kind of gui
00:06 LinuxGuy2020 Ok thank you.
00:07 Sokomine LinuxGuy2020: and yes, regarding the saving, worldedit in combination with the //save command ought to work fine
00:08 LinuxGuy2020 For some reason I cant get the save to work in world editor. At least it doesnt seem to. Looked for the schemas folder or whatver its suposed to make and I didnt see it.
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00:40 Sokomine LinuxGuy2020: type "//p set"  (with two //). then punch the two corners of the area you want to save. then type "//save filename"
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00:56 Animetrom Hi
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00:58 Animetrom Hi
00:58 Animetrom alguem pode me ajudar?
00:59 Animetrom Hello
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01:38 sloantothebone Hi
01:38 sloantothebone animetrom
02:34 Sokomine ah, fine. now i do get colored output from git diff
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02:37 technomancy Sokomine: [color]\n    diff = auto # in ~/.gitconfig
02:46 Sokomine technomancy: had to adjust the parameters for my pager (less) so that the ascii color codes got interpreted
02:47 technomancy ah yeah, that too
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03:02 LinuxGuy2020 I have a server running in the house just for home play with a few family members. Children. How do I keep them from making 50 different spellings of there names and passwords? I just want one name and password for each and dont allow any new ones. How do I manage that?
03:03 LinuxGuy2020 Im using a protection mod so this would be helpful.
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06:06 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Biome API: Increase heat and humidity noise spreads to 1000 91f95fd http://git.io/vtPis (2015-06-30T07:04:18+01:00)
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06:40 TheWild mapformat.txt(383): "u8 allow_text_input (bool)" - ugh... yeah, that's very explanatory.
06:46 ecutruin technomancy, computercraft for MT basically? ^-^  Seems neat.. man.. MT needs something better than FormSpec. :p
06:46 ecutruin Wow.. that was way late. XD
06:46 ecutruin Did not realize that.. oh well.
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07:06 technomancy ecutruin: similar to computercraft, but with a different focus
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07:11 TheWild What do you think? Is Lua good as object-oriented language?
07:12 technomancy TheWild: I don't think that's a very interesting question; better to ask if Lua does a good job at encapsulation, inheritance, message-passing, etc.
07:13 technomancy (the answer is yes, who cares, and no)
07:17 TheWild There is better formspec implementation planned. I'm not sure whether or not it should provide more object oriented API (e.g. form:show()), or stay with something lile minetest.set_formspec_property(...)
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07:18 TheWild maybe I'm just making artificial problem
07:18 technomancy IMO formspecs should be declarative and data-driven
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07:31 ecutruin technomancy, different focus?  Perhaps I missed something, but you seem to have basically computers in-game.. no?  I mean sure CC added turtles and such with do stuff to the world.. but that wasn't there in the beginning.
07:33 ecutruin TheWild, I'd say no to Lua being a 'good' object-oriented language.  However, that has no relevance to its usefulness as a scripting language.  Lua is a great language for scripting content.
07:35 ecutruin technomancy, don't get me wrong though.  Always good to see neat things done in MT. ^-^  Tis the reason I keep this channel up when I'm online.
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07:46 RealBadAngel technomancy, ecutruin https://github.com/minetest-technic/techn​ic_game_2/tree/master/mods/forth_computer
07:47 ecutruin RBA, hehe.. RedPower computer replica?
07:54 ecutruin forth is an interesting language. ^-^
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08:07 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
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08:15 RealBadAngel ecutruin, idk if thats a replica, but definitely both are using forth
08:17 ecutruin Well I mean.. its a computer, in MC, using Forth to control it.. loading forth from a floppy drive.  Mimics RedPower's methods quite a bit. ^-^  Technic in MT though is essentially an implementation of Technic from MC isn't it?  At least trying to duplicate as many features as possible?
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08:43 Calinou http://retrosite.ninja/
08:44 VanessaE wtf
08:44 VanessaE .ninja  ?
08:44 VanessaE ( and it actually works? O_o )
08:45 VanessaE these new tld's...
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08:45 Calinou there's .rocks and .sucks too
08:45 Calinou inb4 microsoft.sucks
08:45 VanessaE heh
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08:55 Krock hahah microsoft.sucks leads to bng
08:55 Krock *bing
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08:59 VanessaE bbl, bed
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09:24 rubenwardy getting http://minetest.rocks/ is rather tempting...
09:25 Calinou http://truecraft.io/
09:25 Calinou https://i.imgur.com/6s5EeF2.png
09:26 rubenwardy wat
09:29 Calinou I'm trying to install TrueCraft
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09:30 rubenwardy awesome
09:35 Calinou but it fails :)
09:35 Calinou reported an issue
09:44 Krock Calinou, which dog is the king?
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10:11 TenPlus1 Hi folks...  is their a reason why a single player cannot connect to the server but can connect to others fine...  she has not been banned, just says connecting forever
10:13 TenPlus1 also, server is working a-ok... a few players on it just now...
10:14 Valley_Cat Is she able to ping the server? and what port is it on compared to servers that do work?
10:15 TenPlus1 asking her to ping server now, as for port, it's default
10:15 TenPlus1 she was on last night without a problem, she can connect to all other servers... it's weird
10:16 TenPlus1 strangely I cannot ping server, but am connected and playing
10:17 Valley_Cat How is the server setup? OS, Home or Virtual server etc..
10:18 TenPlus1 home server running linux, is working a-ok and we have 18 players on just now...
10:18 TenPlus1 checked ban lists and nothing, she has full privs
10:20 Valley_Cat :/ not sure unfortunately... I'm not that familiar with how Minetest works.
10:20 TenPlus1 no probs, thanks tho
10:22 Valley_Cat Double check the IP, and/or perhaps turning it off and on again might help? lol
10:22 TenPlus1 lol, she tried that... also tried connecting with her laptop and mobile phone... both no joy
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10:22 TenPlus1 her pings timedout
10:24 Valley_Cat ah well... if you're still stuck try looking at the differences between your server and one that works. hard to say really.
10:24 TenPlus1 it's definitely a weird situation... heh... thanks again
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10:31 rubenwardy I still think we should have a delete-and-warn policy on stupid bumps: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=183195#p183195
10:39 Krock yes, delete his account and warn everyone from him
10:40 Krock btw, rubenwardy, that's a cute avatar :)
10:40 Krock so colorful
10:45 rubenwardy raainnnbooowwwsss
10:45 rubenwardy !rainbow raainnnbooowwwsss
10:45 MinetestBot 4raa7inn8nbo3oowwws6ss
10:49 Krock Calinou, please add [b][i][/i][/b]
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10:51 rubenwardy just quietly mocking the OP
10:55 technomancy RealBadAngel: ah; I need to take a closer look at this
10:55 technomancy what's technic_game_2 vs technic_game?
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12:08 RealBadAngel technomancy, main difference was texture pack
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12:08 RealBadAngel i havent updated tg2 since ages
12:09 technomancy gotcha
12:09 technomancy I have been trying to keep interoperability between my servers in calandria and other systems like luacontrollers and digilines
12:09 technomancy I'm sure there's stuff in technic that it would make sense to do the same with
12:10 technomancy or maybe to have the crafting recipes use technic nodes or something
12:11 RealBadAngel youre welcome to do so, you can even make your mod part of technic game
12:11 technomancy thanks; that could be really cool, but I think it needs more time to bake first =)
12:12 technomancy I had an idea to make my own subgame focused on puzzles with a pre-existing world instead of creative/exploration, but I've put that on hold for the time being
12:12 technomancy no reason the same mod couldn't exist in both games
12:12 RealBadAngel why not?
12:12 technomancy the technic mod would actually make a ton of sense on the spaceship setting I had in mind for my subgame
12:12 RealBadAngel exactly
12:13 technomancy can you declare crafting recipes that rely on nodes only defined in an optional dependency?
12:15 RealBadAngel you can check for specific mod loaded (that could be soft dep) and then register specific recipes
12:15 technomancy makes sense
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12:16 technomancy I actually think the power system stuff from technic would work really well on a spaceship if you could integrate power distribution similar to http://ftlgame.com
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12:39 TwiSka Hi, i want to compile minetest on mac, and don't work ... (I'm french, sorry for my english)
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12:41 Krock TwiSka, see in the forumsl, build section. There are some OSX builds
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12:45 TwiSka Ok, Thank's Krock
12:45 Krock np's
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13:02 LNJ2GO hi
13:03 RealBadAngel LNJ2GO, hi
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14:24 luizrpgluiz hi :)
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14:36 _Raiz HeY!!!
14:38 CWz Lol fail : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZxkW50TGoU
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15:39 boonscape3 @VanessaE I am having issues with running two worlds I downloaded from your web server. I am getting a mod initialization error with one and a mainmenu GUI error with the other
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16:17 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Fix bugs in mainmenu 85f3d57 http://git.io/vtD6s (2015-06-30T18:11:38+02:00)
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16:19 Calinou https://github.com/awslabs/s2n
16:20 est31 TLS is over TCP, so wont help us
16:20 est31 we need "TLS over UDP"
16:20 est31 called DTLS
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16:42 xenkey Hai
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17:04 Taoki Hey. Does the latest Minetest release have minetest.register_on_player_hpchange? A.K.A. is it safe to add it to my mod?
17:05 * CWz wonders if he's the only one who has multiple versions of minetest installed
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17:08 nolsen Hi, Billy Mays here! Can't seem to get nightmares, then I have a video to fix the problem, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWOqKK9G-0
17:08 nolsen s/nightmares,/nightmares?,
17:13 Calinou Taoki's avatar is a night mare
17:13 Calinou :)
17:13 Taoki Calinou: Forum avatar, or are you using KVIrc too?
17:13 nolsen So is the video.
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17:17 Calinou Taoki, forum/GitHub avatar
17:17 Taoki Ah :)
17:19 xenkey tfw server empty
17:24 rubenwardy is nightmare the rat's name?
17:25 rubenwardy why's the rat purple?
17:26 blaise lol
17:27 Taoki xD
17:33 nolsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfgjYnXgjrk
17:35 sfan5 !title
17:35 MinetestBot No title found.
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17:37 Calinou youtube-dl can give you the title
17:38 Calinou [download] Destination: Let me hear your hell war cry-TfgjYnXgjrk.f137.mp4
17:39 nolsen Did any of you even see the video? :P
17:39 nolsen I'm uploading 2 more G Major videos soon.
17:40 nolsen With the power of Audacity and Videopad Video Editor free.
17:41 nolsen and YTD Video Downloader.
17:41 rubenwardy Can I run kdenlive in xfce?
17:42 Calinou why not?
17:42 Calinou KDE programs do run in Xfce
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17:42 rubenwardy just installed it. works XD
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18:00 CWz "error in error handling"  -- current minetest crash
18:01 Calinou this is caused by LuaJIT
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18:14 VanessaE Calinou: nope, it's a minor error that just got in.  caused by someone who made a mistake ;)
18:14 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix single click world select 29b0dc8 http://git.io/vtyK7 (2015-06-30T20:09:29+02:00)
18:15 VanessaE and there's the fix....
18:32 rubenwardy https://youtu.be/gjkYbvDfObc
18:32 rubenwardy !title
18:32 MinetestBot No title found.
18:32 rubenwardy still that bug? :(
18:33 rubenwardy Mandelbrot - detail vs maximum number of loops
18:33 sfan5 rubenwardy: "still"?
18:33 est31 python shit
18:33 rubenwardy It hasn't been able to read the title from yt in a while
18:33 rubenwardy the problem is that it only reads the first 128 chars
18:34 rubenwardy or something like that
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18:37 Calinou the first 4 kilobytes
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18:42 rubenwardy ffs
18:42 rubenwardy kdenlive, I hate you
18:42 Calinou crashenlive
18:42 rubenwardy I recorded in HD, but it exported in 320p
18:43 sfan5 320p
18:43 sfan5 whats that
18:43 sfan5 i only know 360p
18:43 rubenwardy sssh
18:44 CWz well it could have been worst it could have been 144p
18:44 CWz HD is overrated anyways
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18:45 rubenwardy not really
18:45 rubenwardy below HD is ugly
18:45 rubenwardy I cba
18:47 rubenwardy nevermind
18:47 rubenwardy youtube was fucking with me
18:47 rubenwardy it is in 720p
18:47 sfan5 youtube take a bit of time to convert to all formats
18:47 rubenwardy * screwing with...
18:49 rubenwardy have a look at the code behind that video: https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/3d104ebcef8258b14bc8
18:49 rubenwardy so hacky
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19:12 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Close keybind settings menu with esc 842579e http://git.io/vtSYg (2015-06-30T21:04:06+02:00)
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19:33 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Defer minimap update when shape changed 370a336 http://git.io/vtSWm (2015-06-30T21:14:28+02:00)
19:37 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Make m_blocks_cache private 9e3e6dc http://git.io/vtSlO (2015-06-30T21:34:23+02:00)
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20:19 Miner59 Hi Calinou, are you here?
20:19 Calinou yes Miner59
20:20 Miner59 i think i found problem with bouncing not working in minetest
20:21 Miner59 i commented out some lines and was able to compile a version where bouncing works
20:21 Miner59 i mean the bug where you jump way to high when you bounce
20:22 Miner59 here is the issue you opened some time ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/issues/1552#issuecomment-117278227
20:23 Calinou surround code in ``` tags
20:23 Calinou (optional: add programming language after the first ```, eg. ```C++)
20:23 Miner59 ok
20:24 Miner59 I just commented out some code, theres no new code
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21:45 GeHa Hi, when I run minetest by xinit, I dont have mouse in the game and after connecting, the keyboard also does not work. What to do ?
21:47 sfan5 why do you want to run minetst with xinit
21:48 VanessaE standalone "kiosk" style maybe?
21:48 GeHa sfan5, to try the performance when the game has its own xserver
21:48 VanessaE (like an arcade game)
21:49 VanessaE GeHa: it's probably sufficient, in that case, to just run it normally, using something like twm for the window manager.
21:51 sfan5 GeHa: just tried it, keyboard works, mouse works but there is no cursor
21:53 GeHa xinit $(which minetest) -- :4 , you probably did not try it in gentoo hardened )
21:53 sfan5 cd minetest/bin && xinit "./minetest" -- :3 -nolisten tcp vt$XDG_VTNR
21:54 TBC_x I use this in my script-->  xinit "$2" -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :3
21:54 TBC_x on my archlinux it works alright
21:55 TBC_x launching games in another vt
21:55 GeHa will try the command
21:57 GeHa no mouse.... :(
21:58 TBC_x gentoo wiki should have hints
21:58 TBC_x when I need such things wiki is the first thing I look into
21:59 TBC_x when it spits out errors I usually find [SOLVED] threads with google
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22:31 Worldblender Hi there everyone; I just registered an account on the forums, but I have mistyped my name and need it changed to "Worldblender". Can someone help me get my forum nickname changed, please?
22:32 xenkey Worldblender: what is it currently?
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22:34 Worldblender "Wroldblender". It's a mistake I noticed only on loging in for the first time.
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23:22 Worldblender If nobody will help me change my username, I'll make another account...
23:24 est31 VanessaE, ^
23:24 Worldblender Which clog up username lists...
23:30 GeHa Looking to build a first house and dont know the crafting methods, but at least Id like to know asking here, what servers allows fast move and will stay online/alive ?
23:34 est31 GeHa, try VanessaE's mostly vanilla server
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23:41 Worldblender I really don't want to have to leave anohter account unused. Is there someone that an help me change my username on the forums, please?
23:44 est31 Worldblender, just wait here, this channel is monitored by forum admins
23:45 Taoki Does anyone know why doing obj:setyaw(player:get_look_yaw()) (to copy the player's yaw to an object) seems to have incorrect results? The object doesn't get the player's yaw like it should, and faces in a weird direction
23:50 Taoki Seems to be rotated 90*
23:50 Taoki Trying to do 1 -  or 1 + but not much is happening
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