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[git] RealBadAngel -> minetest/minetest: Add minimap feature ffd16e3 http://git.io/vt42N (2015-06-27T03:42:01+02:00) |
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hi oOChainLynxOo :-) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv5/mgv7 caves: Remove sand found in underground tunnels 36163d9 http://git.io/vt4Km (2015-06-27T03:36:40+01:00) |
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technomancy |
according to the lua_api.txt docs, putting ${foo} in a formspec makes it retrieve foo from node metadata and interpolate it |
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technomancy |
however, that doesn't work when I try it here: https://github.com/technomancy/calandria/blob/master/editor.lua#L4 |
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technomancy |
any idea why not? |
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Jbb |
I think the forum is down again |
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VanessaE |
works for me |
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Jbb |
Oh i have an error "302" found ngirx |
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asl97 |
lol, your browser is broken |
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Jbb |
Ok |
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Jbb |
But other sites work |
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asl97 |
302 should be a redirect |
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Jbb |
Im using duckduckgo browsrr on android at the moment |
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VanessaE |
works fine in chromium and firefox. |
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VanessaE |
I didn't know DDG had their own browser. |
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VanessaE |
DDG is a search engine,. |
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Jbb |
later i'll try itnwith my pc |
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Jbb |
But therr is a browser too |
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Jbb |
In fdroid |
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Jbb |
Its a search app with fsst browser |
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Jbb |
I'll try lightning |
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Jbb |
You are right lightning works |
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Jbb |
But with ddg search widged forum.minetest.org worked |
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Jbb |
Whats the difference both use phpBB |
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VanessaE |
"search app with [...] browser"... you DO realize you can just search from within a browser anyway, right? |
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VanessaE |
including the standard one Android comes with (Chrome) |
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asl97 |
iirc, stock android doesn't come with chrome, it comes with a crappy buggy browser |
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VanessaE |
it comes with chrome./ |
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VanessaE |
at least my Galaxy S4 did. |
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est31 |
until recently, chromium for android wasnt fully open source |
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est31 |
dunno whether AOSP includes a browser |
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est31 |
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/05/22/1722217 |
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est31 |
100k lines |
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est31 |
more than minetest |
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est31 |
i think |
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Calinou |
<19est31> until recently, chromium for android wasnt fully open source |
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Calinou |
I've installed Chromium for Android and it's BS |
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VanessaE |
est31: your presence is needed on Trepca. |
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Calinou |
1. no add-ons? how do I block ads without rooting... |
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Calinou |
2. search engines? can't choose DuckDuckGo, can't remove the defaults |
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Calinou |
(even iOS has DuckDuckGo now) |
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technomancy |
aosp has a browser, but I don't think it gets security updates |
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technomancy |
it's really bad |
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Calinou |
thankfully some phone vendors don't even put AOSP browser anymore |
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Calinou |
http://blog.html5test.com/2014/07/the-android-browser/ |
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asl97 |
est31: 149427 lines |
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asl97 |
commit 4c9a8a91c |
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est31 |
wow quite alot |
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Calinou |
a lot* |
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technomancy |
cloc puts minetest at 117kloc, but I think that includes its bundled copy of lua |
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technomancy |
probably irrlicht too? |
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est31 |
yea |
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est31 |
no |
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est31 |
irrlicht is separate |
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est31 |
not copied yet |
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est31 |
perhaps will be, in future |
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Figec |
hi all |
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Figec |
what you think about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2838 ? |
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TheWild |
Calinou, https://github.com/beyondlimits/moreblocks/commits/master |
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TheWild |
my last 4 commits. What do you think about it? |
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peetaur |
Hi. A few questions... with a dedicated server, how do you load mods? and after placing a furnace, how do you remove it? |
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peetaur |
do I make a directory in ~/.minetest/mods named the same as the world? I don't know what gameid is. |
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Calinou |
TheWild, see my comments :P |
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Calinou |
I'll remove sawless recipes of slopes as they don't make much sense, yeah |
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Calinou |
you can send a pull request |
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Calinou |
I'll fix it later |
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TheWild |
Calinou: There are more than one things done. Should it be in single pull request? |
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TheWild |
I've no idea how to title it properly and not confuse others |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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Hello, protectors of the cubes :) |
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Nihao |
Here an issue we got on all servers: loss of resources during exchange. Seen recently using Barter Table. |
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Nihao |
http://pastebin.com/awvFdh14 |
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Nihao |
Sometimes, it seems to add resources, too. But in that case, people tend to complain less. |
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Nihao |
Seems this can appear on chests, too. |
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Nihao |
Does anybody know about this problem or have some idea on how to fix it? |
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Nihao |
OK, it does not make the server crash, but it is quite annoying, nevertheless. |
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TheWild |
f**k, I hate github |
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TheWild |
how to cancel a pull request? |
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technomancy |
TheWild: there's a "Close Pull Request" button at the bottom |
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TheWild |
but will it be left in "closed pull request"? |
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technomancy |
yes |
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TheWild |
:( |
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technomancy |
I think you can delete the branch it references if there's anything embarrassing in it |
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TheWild |
well, my current problem is that I've touched few parts of the mod. I wanted to make pull request, but had no idea for a good title for all of them. |
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TheWild |
I wanted to take single commits and make pull requests for each for them, but forgot to type which commit I want in it and took all of them accidentally. |
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TheWild |
can the repo owner kick this out without a trace? |
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TheWild |
^ no way, I read that. |
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TheWild |
Calinou, sorry but I'm just helpless. Finished with no pull request. You may see my changes and take them, but I won't waste more time trying to split the commits into different branches and playing with that unintuitive git. |
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* TheWild |
went back to his own projects |
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Xack |
hey Calinou |
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VanessaE: hi? |
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technomancy |
how do you get the current value of a formspec field without on_receive_fields? |
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technomancy |
I want to update a formspec without blowing away in-process input |
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est31 |
I think there is no way |
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est31 |
but im not sure |
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technomancy |
._. |
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technomancy |
hmm... I think I might be ready for an 0.1.0 release |
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technomancy |
https://github.com/technomancy/calandria documentation still needs work, but the basics are all in place |
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technomancy |
http://p.hagelb.org/unix.jpg |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Hi guys I figured out how to run a dedicated server. However I would love to know how to keep it running in the background. When I manually start it in a terminal window then close the window, it stops the server. Whats the proper way to start the server? |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
On Linux Mint |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
I tried adding & to the end but that doesnt work apparently. |
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ElectronLibre |
Use the command line to run the server. |
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ElectronLibre |
Look for a binary file called "minetestserver", and its option. Then, launch `minetestserver <options> & disown` and you should be able to close the terminal window. If you want to keep it open, you can. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Yeah but when I do that it hogs the terminal. Nothing else can be done after it. |
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ElectronLibre |
s/option/options |
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ElectronLibre |
Try to use a pipe to redirect logs then. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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ElectronLibre |
I've got to go, if you have any questions I can ensure you that a lot of people will be able to answer them. |
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VanessaE |
tip: Ctrl-D to close the terminal after using & on a process. |
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VanessaE |
then you don't have to worry about the terminal killing the process on the way out. |
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ElectronLibre |
VanessaE, it's the equivalent of disown && exit. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok I got it |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
The & works fine. It just wasnt updating my terminal prompt so I assumed it wasnt working. Stupid me. Thanks guys |
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Calinou |
hi Xack, finished chess tournament |
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Xack |
:) |
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[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Remove busy polling inside minimap thread 420125d http://git.io/vt0m4 (2015-06-27T19:20:25+02:00) |
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red-001 |
how can i get connected players in c++ |
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RealBadAngel |
red-001, client.cpp line 1490 |
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red-001 |
thanks |
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peetaur |
the wiki seems broken.... when editing anonymously it says "please select just the cat photos in the box below" but there is no box below. And when registering there is no confirmation code anywhere, but submitting the form has an error saying such a code is missing. |
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Krock |
peetaur, request an account |
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Krock |
see forums |
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Calinou |
peetaur, you can send me an IRC /msg with your e-mail address and desired username |
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peetaur |
Calinou: thanks, it works... I was on dev.minetest.net before which seems to have duplicate stuff and different login. :/ |
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Calinou |
yes, it uses different accounts |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
http://i.imgur.com/qvKW99P.png, anyone know what that error message is all about? get this from time to time and FPS drops to 0 and I pretty much have to quit |
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red-001 |
what is wrong with this code |
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red-001 |
minetest.register_on_shutdown(function() |
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red-001 |
for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do |
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red-001 |
local name = player:get_player_name() |
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red-001 |
core.kick_player(name,'server shutting down.') |
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red-001 |
end |
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VanessaE |
red1: next time use a pastebin; there's already a kick-all-players mod. |
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Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com (or the new encrypted trendy thing, https://up1.ca) |
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VanessaE |
wtf is the point of encryption for a pastebin?? |
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Calinou |
host not being liable for content |
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VanessaE |
eh |
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VanessaE |
DMCA already covers that (if hosted in the US) |
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VanessaE |
"safe harbor" provision. |
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VanessaE |
plus there's already some case law in the US and a few other places backing that up |
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VanessaE |
but I get your point. |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, your exams are over. fix the models in moreblocks ;) |
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peetaur |
wtf is the point of a non-encrypted pastebin? ;) |
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Calinou |
I had a chess tournament today, was quite exhausting :P |
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Calinou |
tomorrow is Sunday though |
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VanessaE |
ok that's a bullshit excuse to be proud of :D |
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VanessaE |
peetaur: encryption takes extra resources that are not always best-spent on encryption :P |
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Calinou |
on pastes it's tiny |
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red1 |
well so people have too much resources |
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VanessaE |
encrypt where it makes sense, not where it doesn't. that's all I'm saying. |
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VanessaE |
only the paranoid insist on encrypting *everything* :P |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/amq/firefox-debloat |
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peetaur |
that's why I just do it and suggest it rather than insisting ;) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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xenkey |
Hi |
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xenkey |
I'm just wondering, what are the minimum requirements for a server? |
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xenkey |
I mean of course it will run on a 90s Jornada but what specs do I need to make the players... happy |
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Trixar_za |
Depends on the amount of players and how you optimize the the server |
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VanessaE |
xenkey: a low-end CPU in the 1-2 GHz range, 1-2 GB of RAM, a fast disk, a fast network pipe |
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VanessaE |
that's about all you need, and you can run a few light-weight servers on that. |
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xenkey |
Okay |
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xenkey |
If we go backwards; how many players will a 4 core 2.6GHz 1GB RAM Xeon hold? |
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xenkey |
Oh yeah it's gigabit too |
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asl97 |
minetest only use one core iirc |
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asl97 |
or did that change? |
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Krock |
xenkey, 1 GiB is not much.. maybe 3 or 4 |
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xenkey |
I think there can be more than one emerge thread handling map generation |
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xenkey |
Krock: It's 1 or 0.5 :P |
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CWz |
my server has 2.33 pentium D, 1GB ram and 120GB HDD |
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asl97 |
xenkey: that cause buggy cave iirc |
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xenkey |
CWz: How many players do you have on a regular basis? |
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Trixar_za |
I've run a server on less |
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CWz |
0 |
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xenkey |
asl97: Not much of a problem imo |
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Krock |
xenkey, huh? The minetest server here only uses about 50 MiB RAM |
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Trixar_za |
Should be fine for about 10-40 players |
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xenkey |
Krock: Then how is 1GB not enough lol |
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asl97 |
xenkey: it depend on the world size and version of the minetestserver |
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asl97 |
if it's the old server which load every player files, 1gb wouldn't be enough iirc |
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Krock |
xenkey, my server has a minimalistic setup. It heavily depends on the active blocks settings and activated mods |
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xenkey |
I ran a server on a 4 core ARM box once and it reached the top of the server list (sort of), wondering if I should go again |
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Krock |
so how do you think it's 1 or just 0.5? |
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xenkey |
Krock: You'd have to put some effort into finding a server with only 50MB RAM |
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xenkey |
I have servers with 1GB and 512MB |
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Krock |
xenkey, minetest-server, not the complete server. |
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xenkey |
huh |
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asl97 |
krock said the server process use about 50 mib |
| 19:04 |
Krock |
^ |
| 19:04 |
xenkey |
yeah |
| 19:04 |
xenkey |
<22Krock> so how do you think it's 1 or just 0.5? |
| 19:04 |
xenkey |
With those I meant the RAM of my machines |
| 19:04 |
xenkey |
Not my estimate on the usage |
| 19:04 |
Krock |
ooh, I thought you were talking about the amount of servers |
| 19:05 |
xenkey |
Oh another thing |
| 19:05 |
xenkey |
It runs FreeBSD, is that an issue? |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
It's an issue when you can't get a compiled version for it :P |
| 19:05 |
asl97 |
^ |
| 19:06 |
xenkey |
"Minetest has never been more secure" |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
yay! Let's create a game with lots of security issues, then realease each month an even more secure version! |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
*release |
| 19:07 |
Trixar_za |
Using this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 I created a pretty lightweight server |
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Trixar_za |
wb xenkey |
| 19:08 |
xenkey |
I hate when my SSH sessions get interrupted |
| 19:09 |
xenkey |
Maybe it's time to reinstall this BSD box |
| 19:09 |
xenkey |
and... recompile the kernel |
| 19:09 |
xenkey |
no |
| 19:09 |
asl97 |
ssh lag, mosh is better but buggy at times |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
<VanessaE> only the paranoid insist on encrypting *everything* :P |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
I think we should encrypt all the things (no meme intended), because it's the only way stuff can be secure; without it, nothing is really secure |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
it is of course an ecological disaster, but better have that and save the world's privacy |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah but sometimes "secure" is useless |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
why be "secure" with a publicly-searchable pastebin? |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
now ont he other hand login credentials, bank stuff, and anything else that implies a private exchange should be encrypted for sure |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
I guess up1.ca is not indexed by search engines (and that's a good thing I'd say, pastebins should not be indexed unless author says so) |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
(and the strongest encryption that's practical, too) |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
I wish lichess.org was encrypted, I can't stand my chess moves not being encrypted! :D |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
stuff like "Bf4 c6 Nc3" is way too much information |
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* xenkey |
peeps in |
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xenkey |
minetest-0.4.12 is the version on the repo :D |
| 19:30 |
xenkey |
I mean you really can't beat this https://sr.ht/38e2.png |
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DusXMT |
xenkey: That's a pretty cozy configuration utility... Is that from a BSD's ports? |
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xenkey |
DusXMT: Yep, standard /usr/ports on FreeBSD |
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xenkey |
Wow I love FreeBSD https://sr.ht/b02d.png |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
>2015 >game security |
| 20:06 |
xenkey |
really |
| 20:07 |
xenkey |
i thought it was 1901 |
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| 20:14 |
xenkey |
So here's the biggie |
| 20:14 |
xenkey |
Does anyone want to start a server with me? |
| 20:15 |
xenkey |
I've done this before and it's a hell of a lot of work with a one man staff team |
| 20:16 |
xenkey |
I have the old world here but I don't think it's a good idea to upload 500MB on a connection like mine :P |
| 20:16 |
xenkey |
Dayumn 160MB debug.txt |
| 20:16 |
asl97 |
you don't need to transferthe debug.txt |
| 20:17 |
xenkey |
Yeah I know |
| 20:17 |
xenkey |
I was just saying 160MB is big |
| 20:17 |
xenkey |
I'll upload the conf and the game |
| 20:17 |
xenkey |
Seems cool |
| 20:18 |
asl97 |
i know it's lots of hard work, i started one not that long ago and lost interest in it :P |
| 20:18 |
Cryterion |
You should connect to IRC, helps with monitoring when you not in-game |
| 20:19 |
asl97 |
i am doing it the old landrush way |
| 20:20 |
xenkey |
BitX server |
| 20:20 |
xenkey |
How does that sound |
| 20:20 |
Cryterion |
I just went way the areas mod, sometimes need to help players understand the setup, but it works well |
| 20:20 |
Cryterion |
BitX? |
| 20:20 |
xenkey |
BitX. |
| 20:21 |
Cryterion |
?? |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
Like bit (data unit) and X (executable) |
| 20:21 |
asl97 |
name of the server i am guessing |
| 20:21 |
asl97 |
xenkey: if you want help with starting it, i could help, although, no promise on maintaining it |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
Well yeah duh |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
Alriht |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
Two man staff team is a plus already |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
2289 player info files |
| 20:21 |
xenkey |
woah |
| 20:22 |
Cryterion |
Yeah it is |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
call your server "BSD fan club" |
| 20:22 |
xenkey |
lol |
| 20:23 |
Cryterion |
If you using an old map, I'd say you would need to keep old player info |
| 20:23 |
xenkey |
http://psycho.space/p/6Ef2 |
| 20:24 |
daswort |
Do we have a server system requirements thread in the forum? |
| 20:24 |
xenkey |
... |
| 20:25 |
xenkey |
Now turn off your computer and go outside. |
| 20:25 |
xenkey |
Now turn off your compNow turn off your computer and go outside. uter and go outside. |
| 20:25 |
asl97 |
daswort: most computer can run a server well enough, uplink is the main thing |
| 20:25 |
xenkey |
I don't have a computer |
| 20:25 |
xenkey |
Good job this baby has gigabit |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
ah no? |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
and that's not a computer? |
| 20:26 |
xenkey |
So before i go love |
| 20:26 |
xenkey |
live |
| 20:26 |
xenkey |
What mods should I add |
| 20:26 |
Cryterion |
Most computers will, it's dependant on your inet connection speeds |
| 20:26 |
Krock |
xenkey, boost_cart ! |
| 20:27 |
xenkey |
Uh how do I get a mod list |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
name_restrictions, very important |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/ShadowNinja/name_restrictions |
| 20:27 |
asl97 |
xenkey: you should make sure you get all the mods you want in before starting, once started, the mod used is more or less set |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
Krock, pisto.horse |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
best domain I've seen yet |
| 20:27 |
xenkey |
Ah thanks Calinou |
| 20:28 |
Krock |
Calinou, great one :) |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
xenkey, and of course: More Blocks |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
and Map TOols |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
Map Tools* |
| 20:29 |
xenkey |
Got that one |
| 20:29 |
Cryterion |
I started my server off with the dreambuilder game, some mods added and some varied a bit |
| 20:29 |
xenkey |
I got a modified maptools |
| 20:29 |
daswort |
I know that a raspberrypi can run the binary of MT-server. But how much traffic, bandwidth and CPU power does one need for a server with mods and player. E.g. LibertyLands has Player and Mods but also a huge lag problem. |
| 20:29 |
Krock |
mesecons, pipeworks, technic. |
| 20:30 |
daswort |
See their graphs: http://grafana.ayntest.net/#/dashboard/file/minetest.json |
| 20:30 |
asl97 |
my server bottleneck is the network |
| 20:31 |
Cryterion |
you'll need a high speed inet connection, std ADSL is not fast enough |
| 20:31 |
Krock |
best is a 1 GBit fiber connection |
| 20:31 |
Cryterion |
Cryt-Servival runs on a VPS with an ISP and we still get lag |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
daswort, bandwidth: 0.1 Mb/s down+up per player |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
be sure to tune settings |
| 20:32 |
Cryterion |
within* |
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xenkey |
went from 30MB to 7.6MB |
| 20:33 |
Cryterion |
your ISP might limit your bandwidth |
| 20:33 |
xenkey |
they don't |
| 20:33 |
asl97 |
Cryterion: you need to know if it's network lag or cpu lag |
| 20:33 |
xenkey |
lol 7.0MB exactly |
| 20:34 |
xenkey |
sounds good to me |
| 20:35 |
daswort |
MB or MiB? xenkey |
| 20:36 |
peetaur |
what would cause a client to hang when connecting saying "item definitions..."? It happens when my brother (win8) tries to connect to my server (linux) with lots of mods enabled, but doesn't happen if he runs the server locally (windows), or if I connect with other clients here (all linux), or if there are fewer mods enabled. It looks like here except our versions match 0.4.12 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10844& |
| 20:36 |
peetaur |
hilit=item+definitions |
| 20:36 |
xenkey |
both |
| 20:37 |
asl97 |
peetaur: just wait for it to load, the more mod the slower thee joining is |
| 20:37 |
daswort |
xenkey, does not compute. |
| 20:37 |
peetaur |
asl97: with n mods, it takes like 5s, and with n+1 mods, it takes many minutes |
| 20:38 |
asl97 |
daswort: does it matter? it's only 24kib differents between 1mb and 1mib |
| 20:38 |
daswort |
Does someone have some Traffic numbers of his/her server for me? |
| 20:38 |
xenkey |
... |
| 20:38 |
peetaur |
asl97: with many mods plus load_mod_farming_plus = true, it is random whether it connects or not; with all mods enabled, he can never connect no matter how long he waits |
| 20:38 |
asl97 |
peetaur: that is cause it need to download the textures, sound and other stuffs from the server that isn't already downloaded |
| 20:39 |
daswort |
asl97, it alwaysâ„¢ matters. But not really no. |
| 20:39 |
peetaur |
asl97: looking in iftop on linux, I could see him downloading things slowly ... 400 kB/s for a while, and then it stops completely after a while |
| 20:40 |
asl97 |
then it enter the texture/mesh making step, disabling the preload stuff usally helps |
| 20:40 |
asl97 |
usually* |
| 20:40 |
peetaur |
would we see cpu usage during that point? |
| 20:40 |
asl97 |
ether that or it lost connection |
| 20:40 |
asl97 |
lol |
| 20:40 |
xenkey |
i skinned the minetest game so much |
| 20:40 |
xenkey |
no wool, dye, vessels |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
but we have moreblocks and darkage |
| 20:41 |
asl97 |
you can always pass him all the mods and start a world with it so all the stuff would be cache |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
and i hope no crafting conflicts |
| 20:41 |
asl97 |
on his client |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
or her |
| 20:41 |
Krock |
vessels... who needs those? homedecor, what else? |
| 20:41 |
peetaur |
asl97: well, one of our tests was for me to send him the whole world and mods, and he already did that |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
dont have homedecor |
| 20:42 |
peetaur |
asl97: also, with load_mod_farming_plus enabled, it is random whether it works or not... he can have success one time, then failure the next |
| 20:42 |
asl97 |
in that case, i blame windows xD |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
XP |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
you mean X{ |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
XP |
| 20:42 |
daswort |
xenkey, xdecore is nice and small. |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
Oo |
| 20:42 |
xenkey |
I'd read the forums more often but |
| 20:43 |
xenkey |
You know since we moved from PunBB IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE |
| 20:43 |
Krock |
Theory is when it doesn't work but you know why. Practice is when it works and you don't know why. When you use both, then it doesn't work and you don't know why. |
| 20:44 |
Krock |
(as an answer to Guest44606's quit message) |
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asl97 |
hmmm, the preload setting is no longer shown in the setting... |
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boonscape3 |
Is Vanesse's server back on yet? |
| 20:46 |
daswort |
xenkey, do you prefer this new forum software? (i forgot the name) → http://community.badvoltage.org/ |
| 20:47 |
xenkey |
no |
| 20:47 |
xenkey |
I really liked PunBB |
| 20:47 |
xenkey |
This one is too messy |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
PunBB was not responsive |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
use Discourse or NodeBB |
| 20:47 |
xenkey |
Which mapgen version should I use |
| 20:47 |
daswort |
I prefer fluxbb. And i really hope they release version 2 but hey, it is only 20.000 years! |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
that Bad Voltage thing is exactly Discourse |
| 20:47 |
daswort |
oh right Discourse is the name. |
| 20:48 |
boonscape3 |
I am waiting for vanessaE's creative server to come online |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
it IS online |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
I restarted it |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
didn't you see the msg? |
| 20:48 |
daswort |
oh wow: http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=8282 |
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boonscape3 |
I saw it |
| 20:49 |
xenkey |
Now fluxbb i like |
| 20:49 |
asl97 |
xenkey: it depend on the mods you use |
| 20:50 |
boonscape3 |
I may have left a message in the Mine DOT complaint box which was a thank you note intended for lolman |
| 20:50 |
daswort |
http://discuss.flarum.org/ |
| 20:51 |
xenkey |
ugh |
| 20:51 |
xenkey |
it won't write to debug.txt |
| 20:53 |
boonscape3 |
I am having an issue where I would log in to VanessaE's creative server an the connection would drop causing the map not to load |
| 20:53 |
asl97 |
xenkey: you are using minetest-skins? |
| 20:53 |
xenkey |
no |
| 20:53 |
boonscape3 |
Its whatever mods I get when I login to the server |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
boonscape3: everyone has that problem |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
you don't "get" any mods |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
minetest keeps all mods on the server. |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
it's a combination of a network bug and a player handling bug in the engine |
| 20:54 |
xenkey |
https://sr.ht/d8fd.png |
| 20:54 |
xenkey |
really |
| 20:54 |
xenkey |
really though |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
xenkey: cute |
| 20:54 |
boonscape3 |
ok |
| 20:54 |
xenkey |
VanessaE: this is the icon on the front page |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
boonscape3: just keep trying and you will eventually get in |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
xenkey: oh yes, I see it. |
| 20:55 |
xenkey |
Yeah |
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boonscape3 |
Ok I got in but the connection just dropped on me again |
| 20:55 |
xenkey |
I'll just go and update some mods then go live |
| 20:55 |
asl97 |
xenkey: didn't you post http://psycho.space/p/6Ef2 ? minetest-skins is stated in it |
| 20:56 |
xenkey |
asl97: I deleted a _lot_ of crap |
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xenkey |
https://sr.ht/6a91.png |
| 21:01 |
xenkey |
but there's no debug.txt |
| 21:03 |
asl97 |
it should be somewhere |
| 21:03 |
asl97 |
you can pass a path for the debug.txt to the minetest command and try to reproduce the error again if you can't find it |
| 21:04 |
xenkey |
http://pastie.org/10262203 |
| 21:05 |
xenkey |
groups = {bendy=2,dig_immediate=2,attached_node=1,connect_to_raillike=minetest.raillike_group("rail")}, this is the referenced line |
| 21:05 |
asl97 |
your default mod should be outdated or something |
| 21:06 |
asl97 |
there is no minetest.raillike_group |
| 21:11 |
xenkey |
i just downloaded it |
| 21:12 |
xenkey |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L1538 |
| 21:13 |
asl97 |
oh, your minetest version is outdated |
| 21:13 |
asl97 |
that is the dev minetest_game |
| 21:13 |
xenkey |
hooray |
| 21:13 |
asl97 |
it was added on May 12 |
| 21:14 |
asl97 |
you need to use release minetest_game or dev minetest |
| 21:15 |
xenkey |
Ugh |
| 21:16 |
xenkey |
fun |
| 21:16 |
asl97 |
yay fun |
| 21:33 |
xenkey |
Okay I'm about to finalize my modpack |
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Polsaker |
xenkey, what's the modpack about? |
| 21:58 |
xenkey |
Just a pack for my server |
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xenkey |
Hi |
| 22:17 |
Jordach |
two months later, and forgetting that I still have a MT server |
| 22:17 |
Jordach |
[23:17:30] <JD-Pub> Server has been running for 1423:44:05 |
| 22:18 |
xenkey |
lol |
| 22:18 |
xenkey |
i play on it and still forget about its existence |
| 22:22 |
* Jordach |
simulates some fluid |
| 22:22 |
Jordach |
i have an experiment to test |
| 22:23 |
Jordach |
YESS |
| 22:23 |
Jordach |
it works :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 22:29 |
* xenkey |
also runs an experiment |
| 22:35 |
xenkey |
http://pastie.org/10262282 does this look okay? |
| 22:36 |
asl97 |
isn't it a new server without anything build yet? |
| 22:36 |
xenkey |
yes |
| 22:36 |
asl97 |
i wouldn't announce it so soon though |
| 22:36 |
xenkey |
it doesn't show up in the list |
| 22:36 |
asl97 |
oh |
| 22:37 |
asl97 |
i though `server_announce = 1` put it on the server list? |
| 22:38 |
xenkey |
apparently not |
| 22:42 |
xenkey |
why do i always manage to break things |
| 22:42 |
xenkey |
so it segfaults when i change a line |
| 22:44 |
xenkey |
http://psycho.space/p/OWmW |
| 22:51 |
xenkey |
any ideas why it's not showing up in the server list? |
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Taoki |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5524&p=182938#p182938 Structures mod finally supports multiple road systems per town / city. |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: are they MineDOT compliant? :) |
| 23:01 |
Taoki |
MineDOT? |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
ask cheapie :D |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
they don't appear to be ;) |
| 23:01 |
xenkey |
bitx.pw is now running |
| 23:01 |
Taoki |
Not something I heard of before, so probably not :) Unless that's some game... it should be because they adapt to any terrain |
| 23:01 |
Taoki |
Ah |
| 23:01 |
xenkey |
A nice 4 core 1GB RAM FreeBSD server with 50GB of disk, LevelDB world |
| 23:02 |
xenkey |
Hope that didn't sound like me showing off |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: it's what cheapie calls his fictional road management firm on the servers :) |
| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
DOT = Department of Transportation |
| 23:03 |
Taoki |
Ah... nice :) |
| 23:03 |
xenkey |
But it still won't report to the server list |
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