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00:42 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=47&t=12659 If someone feels like helping with some maths and modding
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01:07 Taoki OldCoder: Poke
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01:28 Taoki Need to go now however, maybe tomorrow
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02:05 OldCoder Taoki, I am up for ghosts
02:05 OldCoder Taoki, ghosts are the mosts
02:05 OldCoder Taoki, of ghosts we shall boasts
02:05 OldCoder ghosts mosts we shall boasts
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03:38 Wayward_Tab Taoki: Hi, I was trying out your structures mod, and it works great, except when I use more than two emerge threads I get this error after a short while:   http://pastebin.com/B6JkctDE
03:39 Wayward_Tab *two or more
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04:25 fling What is the best mobs mod?
04:29 VanessaE Carbone MOBs is good
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06:45 technomancy carbone mobs only has 2 commits on it; that's weird
06:46 VanessaE that's because most of its history is part of the Carbone game
06:46 VanessaE it was forked not too long ago into  its own separate repo
07:03 technomancy ah that makes more sense
07:04 CWz hello VanessaE
07:04 VanessaE hi
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07:09 technomancy are carbone nyan tools only available in creative?
07:09 VanessaE no idea
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09:37 Jbb init: is your name init becuase of init.lua?
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10:00 TheWild Calinou, I attempted to fix the shadow glitch but the problem is there is nothing to fix. E.g. half raised slope causes glitches while it's model is without flaw
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10:01 TheWild According to wikipedia: "Vertices are stored in a counter-clockwise order by default, making explicit declaration of face normals unnecessary"
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10:38 TheWild is there a chance of improving Minetest performance to the point it can be played in "full viewing range"?
10:38 Calinou TheWild, never, because full viewing range is infinite-ish
10:38 Calinou (1024 nodes farclip applies, IIRC)
10:39 TheWild you mean, it disables chunk unloading?
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10:41 Calinou server-side it does not
10:41 Calinou client-side, all known MapBlocks are rendered
10:41 Calinou (sent by server or cached by client)
10:42 TheWild ah ok, you made it clear for me
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12:47 Taoki Hey. Is it possible to include and use custom parameters in item definitions? Like can I do something such as minetest.registered_items["​default:dirt"].my_parameter = 0, then read my_parameter from the item definition later? Or can I only set buildin parameters, like .groups and such?
12:47 Taoki Same would be good to know about nodes.
12:51 Krock You can set foobar = 1, works.
12:52 Krock minetest.registered_nodes is just a collection of tables/node definitions
12:53 Taoki Awesome, thanks
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12:53 Taoki Also, something else relevant to the mods I have planned for recently: Does having a lot of active entities automatically decrease server performance by a considerable amount? Even if they don't do anything?
12:54 Taoki Like if I have 1000 entities with a 3D model, which simply stand there and do nothing, will that harm the server too much?
12:54 Taoki (loaded / active entities)
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13:17 Taoki Hmmm... does anyone know how to set the inventory of a Lua entity also? I can see that entities do have a get_inventory(), but I'm not sure how to configure it.
13:17 Taoki I want to make mobs have a real inventory, like players. If that's not possible, I can of course use tables.
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14:30 twoelk Taoki: you could join VanessaE-Survival or VE-Creative and study the performance decrease around spawn. Both spawns have many signs, pipeworks, travelnet booths and technik and mesecon devices in a relative small area
14:30 Taoki might look into it
14:31 twoelk if you travel a little away from spawn you will notice there is some invisible border where performance gets better as long as you dont look towards spawn
14:31 Taoki Currently having a weird issue with entities: I used obj:set_properties to set a custom flag on an object, but I can't seem to get that object in the entity's on_step function. It acts like it doesn't exist.
14:31 Taoki Any thoughts as to why?
14:33 twoelk on the other hand visit the just-test server and travel to the barren rocks outside of spawn city, build a little pillar and wait for the night. Many mobs will spawn and perform their hopping dance around you. It does get a little dificult once you get down and fight them but that may be a client related issue
14:34 Taoki local obj = minetest.env:add_entity(pos, name) obj:set_properties({x = 1,}) Then in the entity's definition I try under on_step: print(self.x) as well as rint(self.object.x)
14:37 twoelk uhm, is this similar to the sheep shearing activity?
14:38 Taoki Somehow. I need to add a property to an entity after I add_entity it, then see that property from the entity's defined on_step function
14:40 twoelk hehe sounds like wanting to provide mobs with hunger and such
14:40 Taoki Something like that. But why isn't it working?
14:40 Taoki Incredibly enough, none of these work: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mgdykUgT
14:40 twoelk bah ouch my wool is gone, need some grass bahbah
14:41 Taoki How on Earth? Doesn't set_properties really set them or such?
14:42 twoelk maybe something hidden in the signs code? the letters are layers of entities iirc
14:43 Taoki Sorry, don't understand what that means
14:45 twoelk the letters of signs are not textures as such or thy couldn't be changed letter by letter
14:46 Taoki Ah, seems I got it: I had to do obj:get_luaentity().x = "!!##!!##"
14:46 twoelk that's why signs clutter up spawns with entities. Sort of one for each letter
14:47 Taoki Yeah, that's pretty bad. Now that textures can be changed per individual node, signs can hopefully be reworked to use materials
14:47 Taoki Anyone got around to that actually?
14:49 Taoki BBL
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15:08 Guest43725 Ugh firefox is laggy ._.
15:16 rubenwardy nolsen, not for me
15:16 rubenwardy because Linux
15:16 nolsen It is for me.
15:16 nolsen Well I can't use Linux on this computer.
15:17 nolsen They will not allow me to install linux, even just aside from windows.
15:17 nolsen Because it's not my computer.
15:17 nolsen And they are dumber than a kid with mental retardation.
15:17 nolsen jk
15:17 rubenwardy get your own ;)
15:17 * DusXMT wonders why Firefox for Windows could be slow...
15:18 rubenwardy build your own!
15:18 nolsen ...
15:18 * DusXMT uses Linux as well, so he doesn't get to experience the slowness
15:18 nolsen rubenwardy: What is your IQ? 2? I can't build or get my own.
15:18 nolsen I'm only 15.
15:18 rubenwardy DusXMT, it's a mixture between Window's bloatedness and Firefox's unoptimisness
15:19 Calinou I use NT! but also Linux!
15:19 Calinou sometimes even Mach!
15:19 init nolsen: you might still have you own computer
15:19 nolsen Apparently, "15 years old" and "Can't get one or build one" doesn't process anyone's head.
15:19 Calinou rubenwardy, that said, Firefox/Fennec is the only free/libre browser for Android
15:19 Calinou Chromium on Android is a bunch of raw mess
15:19 init nolsen: I had my first computer when I was 6, and I was free to do anything with it
15:19 nolsen Well this computer isn't mine.
15:19 Calinou (it's called "Chrome shell" or "Content shell", and has a weird logo)
15:19 DusXMT nolsen: Well, you can always try asking for one for x-mas
15:19 rubenwardy I didn't mean to offend you :O
15:19 nolsen I'm using my mom's laptop because I'm tired of fucking using my single-core dinosoar.
15:20 nolsen That was made in 10BC
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15:20 nolsen Yes, it was manufactured before the crusification of jesus.
15:21 nolsen Lately, I upgrade the dinosoar with more DDR ram, and added a wireless adapter.
15:21 DusXMT No need to rage. Even weak computers can be useful. Pentium 4 based computers, for example, are still pretty capable even today as general-purpose computers
15:22 nolsen DusXMT: It doesn't have pentium though.
15:22 nolsen Celeron.
15:22 nolsen More like Heleron
15:22 nolsen erm Helleron
15:22 DusXMT eee... that's a different story then
15:23 nolsen Celeron are good processors, my grandmother's computer was made around 2010 maybe, and it has a celeron processor.
15:23 nolsen Not sure if it's a single core though.
15:23 Calinou smartphones are actually really weak at heavy tasks
15:23 Calinou even if they have 4 or 6 cores
15:24 rubenwardy My computer is 6 years old, the only reason I still use it is because of linux. I have pentium admittedly. Before that I had a celeron 16MB of RAM, 4GB of Harddrive space laptop.
15:24 DusXMT Calinou: That's because they don't make heavy use of parallelism, the "heavy task" programs.
15:24 * nolsen ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A4-6210 APU with AMD Radeon R3 Graphics     (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3512 MB Total (1749 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) R3 Graphics ** Uptime: 15.46 Hours **
15:24 nolsen :3
15:24 rubenwardy I see your problem. Windows 8.
15:24 rubenwardy Well, at least it's 8.
15:24 DusXMT But even then, you can only get so much of an improvement with parallelism
15:24 rubenwardy 2
15:24 rubenwardy * 8.1
15:24 nolsen Can't do anything about it.
15:25 nolsen Does the word "Can't do anything about it" go through that anacrist head of yours?
15:25 rubenwardy I understand that you can't
15:25 nolsen anarchist*
15:25 nolsen rubenwardy: I told you, they will not let me put linux aside of windows.
15:25 nolsen I tried.
15:25 nolsen They want this computer to be a windows computer.
15:26 rubenwardy I use a Windows 7/xubuntu dual boot
15:26 Amaz Virtual machine?
15:26 nolsen VMs suck.
15:26 nolsen They will let me run LiveCDs, but they will not let me install.
15:27 rubenwardy Well, in 3 years you'll be eighteen and going to college/leaving home/doing something. Hold on out
15:27 nolsen I thought of doing something malicious and destroy windows hehehe.
15:27 DusXMT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law  - about the parallelism thing
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15:27 nolsen I could write a python program that does bad things.
15:27 Amaz Can you get a 8gb usb stick and install linux on that?
15:27 nolsen Don't have one atm.
15:28 Calinou <rubenwardy> I see your problem. Windows 8.i
15:28 Calinou do you realize Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7,
15:28 Calinou it boots faster, it feels faster
15:28 rubenwardy It is faster, year
15:28 nolsen HAHA
15:28 nolsen Boot fast
15:28 nolsen faster*
15:28 Calinou it really does
15:28 Calinou especially thanks to Fast Boot optimization
15:28 nolsen Calinou: After the BIOS screen, it takes a minute or more to get off the black screen.
15:29 rubenwardy Is the "fast boot" basically never shutting down, but rather hybernating?
15:29 DusXMT kinda reminds me of android...
15:29 nolsen rubenwardy: yep.
15:29 Calinou rubenwardy, sort of
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15:29 nolsen Which is bad.
15:29 DusXMT Didn't we have that before, with suspension?
15:30 nolsen What if you want to completely shut the computer down?
15:30 Krock use DOS 7.11, it boots very fast
15:30 Calinou DusXMT, people are free to suspend their PCs too :P
15:30 nolsen no suspension, without hard shutting down.
15:30 Calinou I'd suggest suspending as soon as it works
15:30 DusXMT nolsen: pull out the power cord
15:30 Calinou it uses nearly no power now
15:30 nolsen DusXMT: lol
15:30 nolsen mfw pulling out the power cord...on a wait for it
15:30 nolsen laptop.
15:30 Calinou there's a reason you suspend your phones and tablets instead of shutting them down*
15:30 Calinou [note: may not apply to the OnePlus One]
15:30 nolsen and expecting it to turn off.
15:31 nolsen DusXMT: Good idea, pull the power cord on something that has a battery.
15:31 DusXMT nolsen: or even better, plug your computer into a power strip with a switch. (or you can pull out the battery)
15:31 nolsen doing so in attempt to shut it down make yourself an idiot.
15:32 nolsen Or I can just hold the power button down.
15:32 DusXMT That's the first step, of course. You don't want to be cold-halting a running system, unless it's DOS
15:32 nolsen either way, both has a chance to corrupt windows.
15:32 nolsen Wait, that is a good idea
15:32 * nolsen holds the power button
15:32 nolsen jk
15:33 DusXMT Not to sound mean, but you'd only give trouble onto your own self...
15:34 nolsen Their fault for using Windows.
15:34 nolsen All I need to is corrupt Windows, destroy their backups, and boom.
15:34 nolsen Windows is gone.
15:34 nolsen And make a fake story on how it got corrupted.
15:35 DusXMT Still, the only one in trouble would be you, and you'd be forced to reinstall it.
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15:38 rubenwardy nolsen, they'd probably take it to a repair shop before letting you install linux
15:38 nolsen And the employee will make up some bullshit like they did to dad's iPhone
15:39 nolsen my dad's*
15:39 nolsen "iPhone ... browser conflictions ..."
15:39 nolsen Who the hell wants to use safari?
15:40 Calinou >2015 >iPhones ;)
15:40 nolsen >2015 >idiots
15:41 nolsen Calinou: Like Migraine$oft, iPhones are popular.
15:42 nolsen for some reason.
15:43 DusXMT Nice design, well advertised, with good reputation.   I think that's the reason. I'm not an Apple supporter by no means, but I acknowledge this.
15:43 nolsen Oh, you know that my dad doesn't like Linux but here's the catch...
15:43 nolsen Before he got the iPhone, he had Android, which IS Linux-Based
15:43 nolsen xD
15:44 DusXMT nolsen: but the only thing it uses from GNU/Linux is Linux, the kernel, the part that anages the hardware... So for the user, there's nearly no similarity to GNU/Linux
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16:15 nolsen Anarchrists everywhere!
16:16 nolsen anarchist*
16:16 Jordach if you wanted a truly FOSS computer
16:16 Jordach make your OWN chips from NANDs
16:16 Calinou Jordach, Libreboot X200
16:16 Calinou it's flashed by hand with Libreboot
16:16 Jordach Calinou, CPU may still be semi-non-free
16:17 Jordach or even the hardware to an extent
16:18 * DusXMT should eventually make himself his own Z80 computer
16:19 nolsen Jordach: Nah because I'm not paranoid unlike you :D
16:20 Jordach nolsen, i'm just presenting the facts
16:20 nolsen I'm also not an anarchist
16:20 Jordach tl;dr most F/OSS  advocates are hypocrites due to non-free HW
16:20 DusXMT Who said any of us were?
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16:20 nolsen Well it's like not using Firefox because it's not free as in freedom.
16:20 nolsen That's just stupid.
16:21 DusXMT That's not anarchy at all...
16:21 nolsen Then what is that?
16:21 nolsen idioicy?
16:21 nolsen Idiocy*
16:21 DusXMT The unwillingness to use/support non-free software
16:22 nolsen free means costless.
16:22 DusXMT Free as in the FSF definition, I meant, that is, Libre
16:22 nolsen If there isn't a price, it's free.
16:22 DusXMT nolsen: Fun fact, I used to think the same at your age
16:23 nolsen I use non-free software, but do I care? no.
16:23 DusXMT That's your choice
16:23 * nolsen was thinking of close sourcing some of his software
16:23 nolsen because close sourcing isn't all that bad :3
16:24 DusXMT That's also your choice. But it's stupid in my opinion, since then, if you abandon your works, no one can revive them, and no one can improve them and/or learn from them, or adapt them
16:24 nolsen Then I'll open-source it.
16:24 nolsen Also that's how people make money from their works.
16:24 nolsen Capitalism.
16:25 nolsen I'm not greedy like Migraine$oft or apple.
16:25 DusXMT I write software to serve a purpose, not to make money...
16:25 nolsen Though I can't make money because I'm underage.
16:25 nolsen DusXMT: Then how you suppose to make a living?
16:25 Calinou <nolsen> because close sourcing isn't all that bad :3
16:25 Calinou it really is
16:25 nolsen Enjoy living poor.
16:25 Calinou proprietary software controls its users, the inverse should happen -- ie. users should be able to control software
16:26 DusXMT nolsen: There's a thing called having a real job
16:26 DusXMT Many free software developers work as sysadmins
16:26 Calinou <Jordach> tl;dr most F/OSS  advocates are hypocrites due to non-free HW
16:26 Calinou hardware isn't even remotely similar to software
16:26 Calinou same goes for culture
16:26 Calinou free software, free culture, free hardware are entirely different movements for a reason; with a smaller scope, it is easier to gain traction
16:27 nolsen Unlike other companies like Migraine$oft, I would actually write software that'd be worth the price.
16:27 Calinou I haven't bought any software in ~4.5 years
16:27 DusXMT nolsen: but users wouldn't be able to adapt it, port it to different OSs and/or architectures, etc.
16:28 nolsen My program will be windows only.
16:28 * nolsen close source it now
16:28 nolsen Because it would probably be only useful on Windows :3
16:30 nolsen I will just open-source it again if I abonden it.
16:30 DusXMT And when we speak about software freedoms, we don't just mean these things theorethically, but practically. For example, look at skype. To run it, you have to have an x86 processor (or x86_64 with a system with multilib support) and be running pulseaudio. That means that people on other architectures, or those who do not want to use Pulseaudio, can't modify/adapy Skype for their needs... Which used to be
16:31 DusXMT a pain in my ass, before I abandoned it
16:31 nolsen Or...just use Windows or Jitsi
16:32 * DusXMT disappointedly shakes his head in disapproval.
16:33 Calinou the big problem is the network effect, it is hard to make people to switch to eg. Tox
16:33 Calinou Tox is the best contender right now, but has big unfixable flaws
16:33 Calinou like sharing, bandwidth usage at idle (kills battery life of mobile devices)
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16:52 nolsen https://opensource.com/business/13/10/sev​en-reasons-closed-better-than-open-source
16:55 Calinou opensource.com is hardly the best resource
16:59 DusXMT It's important to make a distinction here:  Open source - development model.   Free Software - A philosobly on how software should be.    I am personally a supporter of the latter
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17:17 Taoki Hi. How do I get the texture of an item from knowing it's name please? I tried this, and it doesn't work: local textures = minetest.registered_items["default:dirt"].textures
17:18 rubenwardy Calinou, isn't Tox that one that is fundamentally flawed?
17:18 rubenwardy ie: security wise
17:18 ElectronLibre It's something like minetest.registered_items[name].tiles[tile_number]
17:19 rubenwardy nolsen, I think that is satire
17:19 ElectronLibre If you want the inventory image then it's the same master table, and .inventory_image as the index.
17:19 rubenwardy that opensource.com link
17:20 rubenwardy if it isn't satire, then It's completely stupid
17:20 rubenwardy 1. is basically 'there is nothing you can do, you're helpless'
17:21 Taoki ElectronLibre: I think I want the textures table.
17:21 rubenwardy 2. isn't a problem really, you can choose
17:21 ElectronLibre Ok then use tiles.
17:21 Taoki Pretty much, I have a Lua entity which I want to assume the appearance of any given item
17:21 Taoki I assume I only have to use type "wielditem"
17:22 Taoki But in the entity itself, I only know the item's name.
17:22 ElectronLibre Wait, I've already seen such entities, I could give you an example of code where it is used.
17:22 rubenwardy 3. is just stupidity 4. is just "waaa! I have too much choice!". 5/6 isn't to do with open source, but rather community based development
17:22 Taoki I know the itemframes mode, already looked there for examples
17:22 Taoki **mod
17:23 Taoki ElectronLibre: tiles seems to work for blocks, but returns nil for tools
17:23 ElectronLibre There : https://github.com/Jat15/hol​o/blob/master/init.lua#L114 . Commented in french, but not bad.
17:23 Calinou <rubenwardy> ie: security wise
17:23 rubenwardy Those points are all terrible
17:23 ElectronLibre Normal, tools have inventory images, not tiles.
17:23 Calinou no, it's fine security wise
17:23 ElectronLibre The code above looks for both.
17:23 Calinou it's just that decentralization has its inherent flaws, hard or impossible to fix...
17:24 Taoki Thanks. I'll probably just want to use inventory_image
17:24 * DusXMT 's now kinda curious on how Gnunet is doing...
17:25 Calinou unless all states become totalitarian, it won't take off
17:26 init well, the US already is :>
17:26 init US ~ UK ~ NK
17:26 init everything makes sense now
17:26 DusXMT hehe. Well, at the very least, it'll have a following of a bunch of happy hackers
17:26 DusXMT (by hackers, I mean the classic kind)
17:27 DusXMT (as in MIT)
17:27 Taoki ElectronLibre: Is there a way to get the visual type of the item too (.visual doesn't seem to work)? Since I assume that "wielditem" won't make blocks appear like blocks...
17:28 ElectronLibre drawtype I think.
17:28 ElectronLibre Yes, drawtype is surely the field's name.
17:30 Taoki ElectronLibre: Seems to be nil for tools, but "normal" for blocks
17:34 ElectronLibre The drawtype? Yes, obviously.
17:35 ElectronLibre Check before if the item exists in the minetest.registered_nodes before using minetest.registered_items. These two categories have a few different fields.
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17:35 ElectronLibre s/before using/before looking into
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18:28 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=182417#p182417
18:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Custom inventory that behaves the same as the craft output. - Minetest Forums
18:34 Taoki Is visual = "wielditem"? I set it on one of my entities, set textures = {"image.png"}, but the texture appears as "unknown"
18:34 Taoki **is broken
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18:39 Taoki Ok, never mind. Apparently the textures table contains an item name for wielditem... which is pretty weird, but I guess I'll go with that
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19:23 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtpm is now functional as a mod installer. I just need to add support for git links.
19:23 rubenwardy Up next: subgames, worlds and texturepacks XD
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21:05 ShadowBot JohnsenTab: I haven't seen Cynthia in #minetest.
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21:55 Taoki VanessaE: BTW. You mentioned a Wield3D mod earlier. Can I get a link to it please?
21:55 Taoki Does it work with the default player model also?
21:56 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtop​ic.php?f=9&amp;t=6407&amp;start=50
21:56 VanessaE it does work with the default player model, yes
21:56 VanessaE er, wrong page on that link
21:56 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=6407
21:57 Taoki Thanks :)
21:57 VanessaE yw
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23:00 tranquilliam hello?
23:01 VanessaE hello
23:01 tranquilliam oh hi!
23:02 tranquilliam you are the guy who made the dreambuilder thing right?
23:02 VanessaE guy?
23:02 VanessaE O_o
23:02 tranquilliam oh, sorry, lady.
23:02 tranquilliam my apologies.
23:03 VanessaE indeed, I made Dreambuilder - or rather assembled it from its constituent parts
23:03 tranquilliam nice.
23:03 tranquilliam I just discovered minetest, pretty neat.
23:03 tranquilliam got dreambuilder, but I have no idea where to start.
23:03 tranquilliam is there a public server of some kind?
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23:04 JohnsenTab Omg..
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23:07 tranquilliam would anyone know of a public dreambuilder server?
23:08 Taoki Where can I get the latest b3d exporter for Blender please?
23:09 Pilcrow182 tranquilliam: err... it's right on the dreambuilder forum page. "This game is in use on my Creative server [https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=4057] and my Survival server [https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=7017]. Both servers have a few extra mods installed for their specific needs, but should give you a pretty good idea nonetheless."
23:09 tranquilliam ah, thank you, I was not aware of this.
23:10 Pilcrow182 so VanessaE, you're a guy now? when did you get that operation?  :P
23:11 tranquilliam lol, i apologize, i was not aware.
23:11 Pilcrow182 heh tranquilliam. just a little bit of harmless fun. welcome to minetest, by the way!  :)
23:11 VanessaE Pilcrow182: not that I know of...
23:12 Pilcrow182 VanessaE: better check? haha
23:12 tranquilliam thank you.
23:13 VanessaE ANYWAY
23:13 VanessaE yes, there are at least three public Dreambuilder servers
23:13 VanessaE I run two of them (digitalaudioconcepts.com ports 30000 and 30001)
23:13 VanessaE I forget who runs the third one
23:14 VanessaE yep, that's one of them...
23:14 tranquilliam for me, the world is slightly loaded, with a gray background. i assume that is normal.
23:14 VanessaE that's not normal
23:14 VanessaE that's a server bug
23:14 tranquilliam oh, okay...
23:14 tranquilliam i cant move either.
23:14 VanessaE try again
23:14 VanessaE and keep trying until the world loads properly
23:14 VanessaE it's a problem with SAO handling in the server code
23:15 tranquilliam ah, I am online.
23:16 Pilcrow182 seems like that bug has existed for quite a while...  :/
23:16 tranquilliam is there a way to view the playerlist?
23:19 Pilcrow182 there's no player list viewer built into default minetest.
23:19 Pilcrow182 I think there may be a mod for it, but I'm not sure dreambuilder has that mod (if it even exists)...
23:19 tranquilliam hmmm i see
23:20 tranquilliam but what are you guys (and gals) doing at the moment?
23:20 VanessaE tranquilliam: player list is  /status
23:21 VanessaE Pilcrow182:  ^^^
23:21 VanessaE :)
23:21 tranquilliam ah thank you
23:21 Pilcrow182 ah! VanessaE, did that get put into minetest while I wasn't looking, or is it a mod?
23:21 VanessaE it's been there forever :)
23:22 Pilcrow182 oh.. really?
23:22 VanessaE mmhmm
23:22 Pilcrow182 heh. I must've missed it in one of the changelogs. sorry for the misinformation, tranquilliam~  :P
23:23 tranquilliam uh, when I joined the survival server, it gives me lots of U's and 0's in the console
23:23 tranquilliam and it is frozen
23:23 VanessaE crap
23:23 VanessaE that is a network failure of some kind
23:24 VanessaE others have gotten that on other servers before too
23:24 VanessaE try again
23:24 tranquilliam like first its a u, then followed by a ton of zeros.
23:25 tranquilliam there doesnt seem to be any people on either server...
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23:31 tranquilliam well, i will be right back.
23:31 tranquilliam seeya.
23:33 Pilcrow182 VanessaE, I'd just like to point out, your server topics both say 'For a description of how to protect an area yourself, see my Dreambuilder forum topic.' but it doesn't look like the dreambuilder topic actually describes how to use Areas at all. Might be confusing for new players...
23:34 VanessaE well shit
23:34 VanessaE I thought I documented it there.
23:35 VanessaE well it's documented in the other two anyway :)
23:37 Pilcrow182 yeah, it shouldn't be much of a problem, I just thought you'd like to know...  :)
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23:50 Pilcrow182 hmm, I wonder what ever happened to sapier...
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23:54 MinetestBot [git] MirceaKitsune -> minetest/minetest: Fix some issues with animations, and allow non-looped animations to be defined 660fa51 http://git.io/vLSHP (2015-06-22T01:53:38+02:00)
23:54 Taoki Thanks!
23:57 Pilcrow182 non-looped animations? interesting...

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