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Taoki |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12659 If someone feels like helping with some maths and modding |
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OldCoder: Poke |
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Taoki |
Need to go now however, maybe tomorrow |
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OldCoder |
Taoki, I am up for ghosts |
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OldCoder |
Taoki, ghosts are the mosts |
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OldCoder |
Taoki, of ghosts we shall boasts |
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OldCoder |
ghosts mosts we shall boasts |
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Wayward_Tab |
Taoki: Hi, I was trying out your structures mod, and it works great, except when I use more than two emerge threads I get this error after a short while: http://pastebin.com/B6JkctDE |
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Wayward_Tab |
*two or more |
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fling |
What is the best mobs mod? |
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VanessaE |
Carbone MOBs is good |
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technomancy |
carbone mobs only has 2 commits on it; that's weird |
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VanessaE |
that's because most of its history is part of the Carbone game |
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VanessaE |
it was forked not too long ago into its own separate repo |
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technomancy |
ah that makes more sense |
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CWz |
hello VanessaE |
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hi |
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technomancy |
are carbone nyan tools only available in creative? |
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no idea |
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Jbb |
init: is your name init becuase of init.lua? |
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TheWild |
Calinou, I attempted to fix the shadow glitch but the problem is there is nothing to fix. E.g. half raised slope causes glitches while it's model is without flaw |
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TheWild |
According to wikipedia: "Vertices are stored in a counter-clockwise order by default, making explicit declaration of face normals unnecessary" |
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TheWild |
is there a chance of improving Minetest performance to the point it can be played in "full viewing range"? |
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Calinou |
TheWild, never, because full viewing range is infinite-ish |
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Calinou |
(1024 nodes farclip applies, IIRC) |
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TheWild |
you mean, it disables chunk unloading? |
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Calinou |
server-side it does not |
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Calinou |
client-side, all known MapBlocks are rendered |
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Calinou |
(sent by server or cached by client) |
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TheWild |
ah ok, you made it clear for me |
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lojag |
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Taoki |
Hey. Is it possible to include and use custom parameters in item definitions? Like can I do something such as minetest.registered_items["default:dirt"].my_parameter = 0, then read my_parameter from the item definition later? Or can I only set buildin parameters, like .groups and such? |
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Taoki |
Same would be good to know about nodes. |
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Krock |
You can set foobar = 1, works. |
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Krock |
minetest.registered_nodes is just a collection of tables/node definitions |
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Taoki |
Awesome, thanks |
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Taoki |
Also, something else relevant to the mods I have planned for recently: Does having a lot of active entities automatically decrease server performance by a considerable amount? Even if they don't do anything? |
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Taoki |
Like if I have 1000 entities with a 3D model, which simply stand there and do nothing, will that harm the server too much? |
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Taoki |
(loaded / active entities) |
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Hmmm... does anyone know how to set the inventory of a Lua entity also? I can see that entities do have a get_inventory(), but I'm not sure how to configure it. |
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I want to make mobs have a real inventory, like players. If that's not possible, I can of course use tables. |
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twoelk |
Taoki: you could join VanessaE-Survival or VE-Creative and study the performance decrease around spawn. Both spawns have many signs, pipeworks, travelnet booths and technik and mesecon devices in a relative small area |
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Taoki |
might look into it |
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twoelk |
if you travel a little away from spawn you will notice there is some invisible border where performance gets better as long as you dont look towards spawn |
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Taoki |
Currently having a weird issue with entities: I used obj:set_properties to set a custom flag on an object, but I can't seem to get that object in the entity's on_step function. It acts like it doesn't exist. |
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Taoki |
Any thoughts as to why? |
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twoelk |
on the other hand visit the just-test server and travel to the barren rocks outside of spawn city, build a little pillar and wait for the night. Many mobs will spawn and perform their hopping dance around you. It does get a little dificult once you get down and fight them but that may be a client related issue |
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Taoki |
local obj = minetest.env:add_entity(pos, name) obj:set_properties({x = 1,}) Then in the entity's definition I try under on_step: print(self.x) as well as rint(self.object.x) |
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twoelk |
uhm, is this similar to the sheep shearing activity? |
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Taoki |
Somehow. I need to add a property to an entity after I add_entity it, then see that property from the entity's defined on_step function |
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twoelk |
hehe sounds like wanting to provide mobs with hunger and such |
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Taoki |
Something like that. But why isn't it working? |
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Taoki |
Incredibly enough, none of these work: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mgdykUgT |
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twoelk |
bah ouch my wool is gone, need some grass bahbah |
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Taoki |
How on Earth? Doesn't set_properties really set them or such? |
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twoelk |
maybe something hidden in the signs code? the letters are layers of entities iirc |
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Taoki |
Sorry, don't understand what that means |
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twoelk |
the letters of signs are not textures as such or thy couldn't be changed letter by letter |
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Taoki |
Ah, seems I got it: I had to do obj:get_luaentity().x = "!!##!!##" |
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twoelk |
that's why signs clutter up spawns with entities. Sort of one for each letter |
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Taoki |
Yeah, that's pretty bad. Now that textures can be changed per individual node, signs can hopefully be reworked to use materials |
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Taoki |
Anyone got around to that actually? |
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Taoki |
BBL |
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Guest43725 |
Ugh firefox is laggy ._. |
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rubenwardy |
nolsen, not for me |
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rubenwardy |
because Linux |
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nolsen |
It is for me. |
| 15:16 |
nolsen |
Well I can't use Linux on this computer. |
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nolsen |
They will not allow me to install linux, even just aside from windows. |
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nolsen |
Because it's not my computer. |
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nolsen |
And they are dumber than a kid with mental retardation. |
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nolsen |
jk |
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rubenwardy |
get your own ;) |
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* DusXMT |
wonders why Firefox for Windows could be slow... |
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rubenwardy |
build your own! |
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nolsen |
... |
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* DusXMT |
uses Linux as well, so he doesn't get to experience the slowness |
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nolsen |
rubenwardy: What is your IQ? 2? I can't build or get my own. |
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nolsen |
I'm only 15. |
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rubenwardy |
DusXMT, it's a mixture between Window's bloatedness and Firefox's unoptimisness |
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Calinou |
I use NT! but also Linux! |
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Calinou |
sometimes even Mach! |
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init |
nolsen: you might still have you own computer |
| 15:19 |
nolsen |
Apparently, "15 years old" and "Can't get one or build one" doesn't process anyone's head. |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, that said, Firefox/Fennec is the only free/libre browser for Android |
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Calinou |
Chromium on Android is a bunch of raw mess |
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init |
nolsen: I had my first computer when I was 6, and I was free to do anything with it |
| 15:19 |
nolsen |
Well this computer isn't mine. |
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Calinou |
(it's called "Chrome shell" or "Content shell", and has a weird logo) |
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DusXMT |
nolsen: Well, you can always try asking for one for x-mas |
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rubenwardy |
I didn't mean to offend you :O |
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nolsen |
I'm using my mom's laptop because I'm tired of fucking using my single-core dinosoar. |
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nolsen |
That was made in 10BC |
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nolsen |
Yes, it was manufactured before the crusification of jesus. |
| 15:21 |
nolsen |
Lately, I upgrade the dinosoar with more DDR ram, and added a wireless adapter. |
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DusXMT |
No need to rage. Even weak computers can be useful. Pentium 4 based computers, for example, are still pretty capable even today as general-purpose computers |
| 15:22 |
nolsen |
DusXMT: It doesn't have pentium though. |
| 15:22 |
nolsen |
Celeron. |
| 15:22 |
nolsen |
More like Heleron |
| 15:22 |
nolsen |
erm Helleron |
| 15:22 |
DusXMT |
eee... that's a different story then |
| 15:23 |
nolsen |
Celeron are good processors, my grandmother's computer was made around 2010 maybe, and it has a celeron processor. |
| 15:23 |
nolsen |
Not sure if it's a single core though. |
| 15:23 |
Calinou |
smartphones are actually really weak at heavy tasks |
| 15:23 |
Calinou |
even if they have 4 or 6 cores |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
My computer is 6 years old, the only reason I still use it is because of linux. I have pentium admittedly. Before that I had a celeron 16MB of RAM, 4GB of Harddrive space laptop. |
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DusXMT |
Calinou: That's because they don't make heavy use of parallelism, the "heavy task" programs. |
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* nolsen |
** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A4-6210 APU with AMD Radeon R3 Graphics (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3512 MB Total (1749 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) R3 Graphics ** Uptime: 15.46 Hours ** |
| 15:24 |
nolsen |
:3 |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
I see your problem. Windows 8. |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
Well, at least it's 8. |
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DusXMT |
But even then, you can only get so much of an improvement with parallelism |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
2 |
| 15:24 |
rubenwardy |
* 8.1 |
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nolsen |
Can't do anything about it. |
| 15:25 |
nolsen |
Does the word "Can't do anything about it" go through that anacrist head of yours? |
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rubenwardy |
I understand that you can't |
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nolsen |
anarchist* |
| 15:25 |
nolsen |
rubenwardy: I told you, they will not let me put linux aside of windows. |
| 15:25 |
nolsen |
I tried. |
| 15:25 |
nolsen |
They want this computer to be a windows computer. |
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rubenwardy |
I use a Windows 7/xubuntu dual boot |
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Amaz |
Virtual machine? |
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nolsen |
VMs suck. |
| 15:26 |
nolsen |
They will let me run LiveCDs, but they will not let me install. |
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rubenwardy |
Well, in 3 years you'll be eighteen and going to college/leaving home/doing something. Hold on out |
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nolsen |
I thought of doing something malicious and destroy windows hehehe. |
| 15:27 |
DusXMT |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law - about the parallelism thing |
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nolsen |
I could write a python program that does bad things. |
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Amaz |
Can you get a 8gb usb stick and install linux on that? |
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nolsen |
Don't have one atm. |
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Calinou |
<rubenwardy> I see your problem. Windows 8.i |
| 15:28 |
Calinou |
do you realize Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7, |
| 15:28 |
Calinou |
it boots faster, it feels faster |
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rubenwardy |
It is faster, year |
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nolsen |
HAHA |
| 15:28 |
nolsen |
Boot fast |
| 15:28 |
nolsen |
faster* |
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Calinou |
it really does |
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Calinou |
especially thanks to Fast Boot optimization |
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nolsen |
Calinou: After the BIOS screen, it takes a minute or more to get off the black screen. |
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rubenwardy |
Is the "fast boot" basically never shutting down, but rather hybernating? |
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DusXMT |
kinda reminds me of android... |
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nolsen |
rubenwardy: yep. |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, sort of |
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nolsen |
Which is bad. |
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DusXMT |
Didn't we have that before, with suspension? |
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nolsen |
What if you want to completely shut the computer down? |
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Krock |
use DOS 7.11, it boots very fast |
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Calinou |
DusXMT, people are free to suspend their PCs too :P |
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nolsen |
no suspension, without hard shutting down. |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
I'd suggest suspending as soon as it works |
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DusXMT |
nolsen: pull out the power cord |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
it uses nearly no power now |
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nolsen |
DusXMT: lol |
| 15:30 |
nolsen |
mfw pulling out the power cord...on a wait for it |
| 15:30 |
nolsen |
laptop. |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
there's a reason you suspend your phones and tablets instead of shutting them down* |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
[note: may not apply to the OnePlus One] |
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nolsen |
and expecting it to turn off. |
| 15:31 |
nolsen |
DusXMT: Good idea, pull the power cord on something that has a battery. |
| 15:31 |
DusXMT |
nolsen: or even better, plug your computer into a power strip with a switch. (or you can pull out the battery) |
| 15:31 |
nolsen |
doing so in attempt to shut it down make yourself an idiot. |
| 15:32 |
nolsen |
Or I can just hold the power button down. |
| 15:32 |
DusXMT |
That's the first step, of course. You don't want to be cold-halting a running system, unless it's DOS |
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nolsen |
either way, both has a chance to corrupt windows. |
| 15:32 |
nolsen |
Wait, that is a good idea |
| 15:32 |
* nolsen |
holds the power button |
| 15:32 |
nolsen |
jk |
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DusXMT |
Not to sound mean, but you'd only give trouble onto your own self... |
| 15:34 |
nolsen |
Their fault for using Windows. |
| 15:34 |
nolsen |
All I need to is corrupt Windows, destroy their backups, and boom. |
| 15:34 |
nolsen |
Windows is gone. |
| 15:34 |
nolsen |
And make a fake story on how it got corrupted. |
| 15:35 |
DusXMT |
Still, the only one in trouble would be you, and you'd be forced to reinstall it. |
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rubenwardy |
nolsen, they'd probably take it to a repair shop before letting you install linux |
| 15:38 |
nolsen |
And the employee will make up some bullshit like they did to dad's iPhone |
| 15:39 |
nolsen |
my dad's* |
| 15:39 |
nolsen |
"iPhone ... browser conflictions ..." |
| 15:39 |
nolsen |
Who the hell wants to use safari? |
| 15:40 |
Calinou |
>2015 >iPhones ;) |
| 15:40 |
nolsen |
>2015 >idiots |
| 15:41 |
nolsen |
Calinou: Like Migraine$oft, iPhones are popular. |
| 15:42 |
nolsen |
for some reason. |
| 15:43 |
DusXMT |
Nice design, well advertised, with good reputation. I think that's the reason. I'm not an Apple supporter by no means, but I acknowledge this. |
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nolsen |
Oh, you know that my dad doesn't like Linux but here's the catch... |
| 15:43 |
nolsen |
Before he got the iPhone, he had Android, which IS Linux-Based |
| 15:43 |
nolsen |
xD |
| 15:44 |
DusXMT |
nolsen: but the only thing it uses from GNU/Linux is Linux, the kernel, the part that anages the hardware... So for the user, there's nearly no similarity to GNU/Linux |
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nolsen |
Anarchrists everywhere! |
| 16:16 |
nolsen |
anarchist* |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
if you wanted a truly FOSS computer |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
make your OWN chips from NANDs |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
Jordach, Libreboot X200 |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
it's flashed by hand with Libreboot |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
Calinou, CPU may still be semi-non-free |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
or even the hardware to an extent |
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* DusXMT |
should eventually make himself his own Z80 computer |
| 16:19 |
nolsen |
Jordach: Nah because I'm not paranoid unlike you :D |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
nolsen, i'm just presenting the facts |
| 16:20 |
nolsen |
I'm also not an anarchist |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
tl;dr most F/OSS advocates are hypocrites due to non-free HW |
| 16:20 |
DusXMT |
Who said any of us were? |
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nolsen |
Well it's like not using Firefox because it's not free as in freedom. |
| 16:20 |
nolsen |
That's just stupid. |
| 16:21 |
DusXMT |
That's not anarchy at all... |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
Then what is that? |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
idioicy? |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
Idiocy* |
| 16:21 |
DusXMT |
The unwillingness to use/support non-free software |
| 16:22 |
nolsen |
free means costless. |
| 16:22 |
DusXMT |
Free as in the FSF definition, I meant, that is, Libre |
| 16:22 |
nolsen |
If there isn't a price, it's free. |
| 16:22 |
DusXMT |
nolsen: Fun fact, I used to think the same at your age |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
I use non-free software, but do I care? no. |
| 16:23 |
DusXMT |
That's your choice |
| 16:23 |
* nolsen |
was thinking of close sourcing some of his software |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
because close sourcing isn't all that bad :3 |
| 16:24 |
DusXMT |
That's also your choice. But it's stupid in my opinion, since then, if you abandon your works, no one can revive them, and no one can improve them and/or learn from them, or adapt them |
| 16:24 |
nolsen |
Then I'll open-source it. |
| 16:24 |
nolsen |
Also that's how people make money from their works. |
| 16:24 |
nolsen |
Capitalism. |
| 16:25 |
nolsen |
I'm not greedy like Migraine$oft or apple. |
| 16:25 |
DusXMT |
I write software to serve a purpose, not to make money... |
| 16:25 |
nolsen |
Though I can't make money because I'm underage. |
| 16:25 |
nolsen |
DusXMT: Then how you suppose to make a living? |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
<nolsen> because close sourcing isn't all that bad :3 |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
it really is |
| 16:25 |
nolsen |
Enjoy living poor. |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
proprietary software controls its users, the inverse should happen -- ie. users should be able to control software |
| 16:26 |
DusXMT |
nolsen: There's a thing called having a real job |
| 16:26 |
DusXMT |
Many free software developers work as sysadmins |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
<Jordach> tl;dr most F/OSS advocates are hypocrites due to non-free HW |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
hardware isn't even remotely similar to software |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
same goes for culture |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
free software, free culture, free hardware are entirely different movements for a reason; with a smaller scope, it is easier to gain traction |
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nolsen |
Unlike other companies like Migraine$oft, I would actually write software that'd be worth the price. |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
I haven't bought any software in ~4.5 years |
| 16:27 |
DusXMT |
nolsen: but users wouldn't be able to adapt it, port it to different OSs and/or architectures, etc. |
| 16:28 |
nolsen |
My program will be windows only. |
| 16:28 |
* nolsen |
close source it now |
| 16:28 |
nolsen |
Because it would probably be only useful on Windows :3 |
| 16:30 |
nolsen |
I will just open-source it again if I abonden it. |
| 16:30 |
DusXMT |
And when we speak about software freedoms, we don't just mean these things theorethically, but practically. For example, look at skype. To run it, you have to have an x86 processor (or x86_64 with a system with multilib support) and be running pulseaudio. That means that people on other architectures, or those who do not want to use Pulseaudio, can't modify/adapy Skype for their needs... Which used to be |
| 16:31 |
DusXMT |
a pain in my ass, before I abandoned it |
| 16:31 |
nolsen |
Or...just use Windows or Jitsi |
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* DusXMT |
disappointedly shakes his head in disapproval. |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
the big problem is the network effect, it is hard to make people to switch to eg. Tox |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
Tox is the best contender right now, but has big unfixable flaws |
| 16:33 |
Calinou |
like sharing, bandwidth usage at idle (kills battery life of mobile devices) |
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nolsen |
https://opensource.com/business/13/10/seven-reasons-closed-better-than-open-source |
| 16:55 |
Calinou |
opensource.com is hardly the best resource |
| 16:59 |
DusXMT |
It's important to make a distinction here: Open source - development model. Free Software - A philosobly on how software should be. I am personally a supporter of the latter |
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Taoki |
Hi. How do I get the texture of an item from knowing it's name please? I tried this, and it doesn't work: local textures = minetest.registered_items["default:dirt"].textures |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
Calinou, isn't Tox that one that is fundamentally flawed? |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
ie: security wise |
| 17:18 |
ElectronLibre |
It's something like minetest.registered_items[name].tiles[tile_number] |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
nolsen, I think that is satire |
| 17:19 |
ElectronLibre |
If you want the inventory image then it's the same master table, and .inventory_image as the index. |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
that opensource.com link |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
if it isn't satire, then It's completely stupid |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
1. is basically 'there is nothing you can do, you're helpless' |
| 17:21 |
Taoki |
ElectronLibre: I think I want the textures table. |
| 17:21 |
rubenwardy |
2. isn't a problem really, you can choose |
| 17:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok then use tiles. |
| 17:21 |
Taoki |
Pretty much, I have a Lua entity which I want to assume the appearance of any given item |
| 17:21 |
Taoki |
I assume I only have to use type "wielditem" |
| 17:22 |
Taoki |
But in the entity itself, I only know the item's name. |
| 17:22 |
ElectronLibre |
Wait, I've already seen such entities, I could give you an example of code where it is used. |
| 17:22 |
rubenwardy |
3. is just stupidity 4. is just "waaa! I have too much choice!". 5/6 isn't to do with open source, but rather community based development |
| 17:22 |
Taoki |
I know the itemframes mode, already looked there for examples |
| 17:22 |
Taoki |
**mod |
| 17:23 |
Taoki |
ElectronLibre: tiles seems to work for blocks, but returns nil for tools |
| 17:23 |
ElectronLibre |
There : https://github.com/Jat15/holo/blob/master/init.lua#L114 . Commented in french, but not bad. |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
<rubenwardy> ie: security wise |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
Those points are all terrible |
| 17:23 |
ElectronLibre |
Normal, tools have inventory images, not tiles. |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
no, it's fine security wise |
| 17:23 |
ElectronLibre |
The code above looks for both. |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
it's just that decentralization has its inherent flaws, hard or impossible to fix... |
| 17:24 |
Taoki |
Thanks. I'll probably just want to use inventory_image |
| 17:24 |
* DusXMT |
's now kinda curious on how Gnunet is doing... |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
unless all states become totalitarian, it won't take off |
| 17:26 |
init |
well, the US already is :> |
| 17:26 |
init |
US ~ UK ~ NK |
| 17:26 |
init |
everything makes sense now |
| 17:26 |
DusXMT |
hehe. Well, at the very least, it'll have a following of a bunch of happy hackers |
| 17:26 |
DusXMT |
(by hackers, I mean the classic kind) |
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DusXMT |
(as in MIT) |
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Taoki |
ElectronLibre: Is there a way to get the visual type of the item too (.visual doesn't seem to work)? Since I assume that "wielditem" won't make blocks appear like blocks... |
| 17:28 |
ElectronLibre |
drawtype I think. |
| 17:28 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, drawtype is surely the field's name. |
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Taoki |
ElectronLibre: Seems to be nil for tools, but "normal" for blocks |
| 17:34 |
ElectronLibre |
The drawtype? Yes, obviously. |
| 17:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Check before if the item exists in the minetest.registered_nodes before using minetest.registered_items. These two categories have a few different fields. |
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ElectronLibre |
s/before using/before looking into |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=182417#p182417 |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Custom inventory that behaves the same as the craft output. - Minetest Forums |
| 18:34 |
Taoki |
Is visual = "wielditem"? I set it on one of my entities, set textures = {"image.png"}, but the texture appears as "unknown" |
| 18:34 |
Taoki |
**is broken |
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Taoki |
Ok, never mind. Apparently the textures table contains an item name for wielditem... which is pretty weird, but I guess I'll go with that |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtpm is now functional as a mod installer. I just need to add support for git links. |
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rubenwardy |
Up next: subgames, worlds and texturepacks XD |
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JohnsenTab |
~seen Cynthia |
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ShadowBot |
JohnsenTab: I haven't seen Cynthia in #minetest. |
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Taoki |
VanessaE: BTW. You mentioned a Wield3D mod earlier. Can I get a link to it please? |
| 21:55 |
Taoki |
Does it work with the default player model also? |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6407&start=50 |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
it does work with the default player model, yes |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
er, wrong page on that link |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6407 |
| 21:57 |
Taoki |
Thanks :) |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
yw |
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| 23:00 |
tranquilliam |
hello? |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
hello |
| 23:01 |
tranquilliam |
oh hi! |
| 23:02 |
tranquilliam |
you are the guy who made the dreambuilder thing right? |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
guy? |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
O_o |
| 23:02 |
tranquilliam |
oh, sorry, lady. |
| 23:02 |
tranquilliam |
my apologies. |
| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
indeed, I made Dreambuilder - or rather assembled it from its constituent parts |
| 23:03 |
tranquilliam |
nice. |
| 23:03 |
tranquilliam |
I just discovered minetest, pretty neat. |
| 23:03 |
tranquilliam |
got dreambuilder, but I have no idea where to start. |
| 23:03 |
tranquilliam |
is there a public server of some kind? |
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JohnsenTab |
Omg.. |
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tranquilliam |
would anyone know of a public dreambuilder server? |
| 23:08 |
Taoki |
Where can I get the latest b3d exporter for Blender please? |
| 23:09 |
Pilcrow182 |
tranquilliam: err... it's right on the dreambuilder forum page. "This game is in use on my Creative server [https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057] and my Survival server [https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7017]. Both servers have a few extra mods installed for their specific needs, but should give you a pretty good idea nonetheless." |
| 23:09 |
tranquilliam |
ah, thank you, I was not aware of this. |
| 23:10 |
Pilcrow182 |
so VanessaE, you're a guy now? when did you get that operation? :P |
| 23:11 |
tranquilliam |
lol, i apologize, i was not aware. |
| 23:11 |
Pilcrow182 |
heh tranquilliam. just a little bit of harmless fun. welcome to minetest, by the way! :) |
| 23:11 |
VanessaE |
Pilcrow182: not that I know of... |
| 23:12 |
Pilcrow182 |
VanessaE: better check? haha |
| 23:12 |
tranquilliam |
thank you. |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
ANYWAY |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
yes, there are at least three public Dreambuilder servers |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
I run two of them (digitalaudioconcepts.com ports 30000 and 30001) |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
I forget who runs the third one |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
yep, that's one of them... |
| 23:14 |
tranquilliam |
for me, the world is slightly loaded, with a gray background. i assume that is normal. |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
that's not normal |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
that's a server bug |
| 23:14 |
tranquilliam |
oh, okay... |
| 23:14 |
tranquilliam |
i cant move either. |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
try again |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
and keep trying until the world loads properly |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
it's a problem with SAO handling in the server code |
| 23:15 |
tranquilliam |
ah, I am online. |
| 23:16 |
Pilcrow182 |
seems like that bug has existed for quite a while... :/ |
| 23:16 |
tranquilliam |
is there a way to view the playerlist? |
| 23:19 |
Pilcrow182 |
there's no player list viewer built into default minetest. |
| 23:19 |
Pilcrow182 |
I think there may be a mod for it, but I'm not sure dreambuilder has that mod (if it even exists)... |
| 23:19 |
tranquilliam |
hmmm i see |
| 23:20 |
tranquilliam |
but what are you guys (and gals) doing at the moment? |
| 23:20 |
VanessaE |
tranquilliam: player list is /status |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
Pilcrow182: ^^^ |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 23:21 |
tranquilliam |
ah thank you |
| 23:21 |
Pilcrow182 |
ah! VanessaE, did that get put into minetest while I wasn't looking, or is it a mod? |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
it's been there forever :) |
| 23:22 |
Pilcrow182 |
oh.. really? |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
| 23:22 |
Pilcrow182 |
heh. I must've missed it in one of the changelogs. sorry for the misinformation, tranquilliam~ :P |
| 23:23 |
tranquilliam |
uh, when I joined the survival server, it gives me lots of U's and 0's in the console |
| 23:23 |
tranquilliam |
and it is frozen |
| 23:23 |
VanessaE |
crap |
| 23:23 |
VanessaE |
that is a network failure of some kind |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
others have gotten that on other servers before too |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
try again |
| 23:24 |
tranquilliam |
like first its a u, then followed by a ton of zeros. |
| 23:25 |
tranquilliam |
there doesnt seem to be any people on either server... |
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tranquilliam |
well, i will be right back. |
| 23:31 |
tranquilliam |
seeya. |
| 23:33 |
Pilcrow182 |
VanessaE, I'd just like to point out, your server topics both say 'For a description of how to protect an area yourself, see my Dreambuilder forum topic.' but it doesn't look like the dreambuilder topic actually describes how to use Areas at all. Might be confusing for new players... |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
well shit |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
I thought I documented it there. |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
well it's documented in the other two anyway :) |
| 23:37 |
Pilcrow182 |
yeah, it shouldn't be much of a problem, I just thought you'd like to know... :) |
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hmm, I wonder what ever happened to sapier... |
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MinetestBot |
[git] MirceaKitsune -> minetest/minetest: Fix some issues with animations, and allow non-looped animations to be defined 660fa51 http://git.io/vLSHP (2015-06-22T01:53:38+02:00) |
| 23:54 |
Taoki |
Thanks! |
| 23:57 |
Pilcrow182 |
non-looped animations? interesting... |
