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00:00 Kenney http://puu.sh/i7Mvi/e20432d78f.png hard to believe this is still Minetest lol
00:00 rjs232323 OO
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00:09 Creeper hi
00:10 rjs232323 hello
00:12 rjs232323 is it possible to attach custom property to a node?
00:12 rjs232323 Would that introduce server mod compability I wonder
00:12 rjs232323 incomplability*
00:12 VanessaE yes, you can do that
00:12 VanessaE either on a global basis (an ordinary table entry) or on a per-position basis (metadata)
00:13 rjs232323 ok
00:13 rjs232323 ah.
00:13 jordan4ibanez Hi Creeper
00:13 rjs232323 I see. Ok.
00:13 Creeper hi jordan
00:13 rjs232323 I'm making a block that acts like water mill that functions when there is water flow block under it just for fun
00:14 Kenney awesome!
00:15 VanessaE just FYI mesecons and technic have blocks like that
00:16 VanessaE might want to look at those for tips
00:17 rjs232323 ok
00:19 rjs232323 curious, have you made any mod too?
00:19 VanessaE hehe.  have I made any mods. :D
00:19 rjs232323 Tell me!
00:19 VanessaE Homedecor is my main one
00:19 rjs232323 ^^
00:19 rjs232323 ooh
00:20 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE?tab=repositories
00:24 rjs232323 OO, you have so many sub projects
00:25 VanessaE mmhmm
00:26 rjs232323 impressive
00:28 Kenney http://puu.sh/i7O2o/d9b41da355.jpg
00:28 Kenney added coins, hazards
00:28 exio4 have you seen/watch `kung fury`?
00:29 exio4 Kenney: that looks like a sega game with cuter graphics
00:29 Kenney hah yeah
00:29 exio4 (if the camera was fixed.. that's it)
00:30 Kenney here's what it looks like when riding a UFO; http://puu.sh/i7Oa7/e86e52d065.jpg
00:35 rjs232323 does flowing water have direction listed in itemstack ? West/north/south/easT?
00:35 VanessaE no
00:35 rjs232323 ouch, I see ok
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00:40 jordan4ibanez So why doesn't this change the stack?
00:40 jordan4ibanez stack:take_item(1)
00:40 VanessaE because you have to return the itemstack also.
00:41 VanessaE itemstack:takeitem() ; return itemstack
00:41 VanessaE bbl
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01:07 notsfan5 is there a reason to use t * t * t * instead of the pow() function here https://github.com/minetest/minet​est/blob/master/src/noise.h#L248
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01:12 jordan4ibanez Trying to change a chest's list
01:12 jordan4ibanez local meta2 = minetest.get_meta({x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z});
01:12 jordan4ibanez local inv2 = meta2:get_inventory()
01:12 jordan4ibanez inv2:add_item("main", stack)
01:12 jordan4ibanez This does not work, I'm not sure why
01:18 rjs232323 notsfan, I think they do that instead of calling pow for performance reason.  IT skips the overhead cost, thats only reason I can think of
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01:36 ajaypay hey v
01:37 ajaypay hey all
01:37 dakota_gaming ~rainbow ProXavi
01:37 ShadowBot dakota_gaming: ProXavi
01:37 dakota_gaming hai
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01:39 bobomb just made a mod if anyone likes weird things check it out: github.com/bobombolo/automata
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01:46 ajaypay hey im back
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01:48 ajaypay can bees mod be added to trepca?
01:48 ajaypay ?
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01:50 ajaypay because the bees are preety bad there
01:51 * ajaypay is trying to be paitent
01:54 ajaypay so whats smeltin?
01:54 ajaypay mese? ;)
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02:06 ajaypay yo tab
02:07 Wayward_Tab Ahoy thar, matey!
02:09 ajaypay hey :D
02:09 ajaypay how r u ?
02:10 ajaypay
02:10 Wayward_Tab I'm good, thanks. And you?
02:10 ajaypay srry
02:11 ajaypay oh
02:11 ajaypay im doin well
02:11 Wayward_Tab That's good :)
02:12 ajaypay yep ')
02:12 ajaypay .')
02:12 jordan4ibanez So how do I make changes to a chest inventory
02:13 jordan4ibanez I have inv2:add_item("main", stack)
02:13 jordan4ibanez But it's not making it write
02:13 ajaypay u playin mt?
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02:33 AndroidKris Can I use a filter/injector with a mv furnace?
02:40 jordan4ibanez Whoops
02:40 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/CVlOSDG.png
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03:02 rjs232323 mv furnace?
03:03 rjs232323 what mod are you using?
03:22 VanessaE rjs232323: that's from technic
03:22 VanessaE and I believe the answer is yes, but it's side-dependent
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03:26 rjs232323 I see
03:27 rjs232323 welcome back vanessa :D
03:27 VanessaE hi
03:27 rjs232323 I beleive I may have another question for ya
03:27 rjs232323 am playing with node box editor, I dont suppose I can make a block that are 2 block height (but only take up 1 block height)
03:28 VanessaE yes, you can
03:28 rjs232323 I'm making a animation where it spins under a block
03:28 VanessaE but it's not recommended with nodeboxes
03:28 VanessaE use a meshnode instead
03:28 rjs232323 oh
03:28 VanessaE (Blender is your tool of choice there)
03:28 rjs232323 mesh node
03:28 rjs232323 interesting
03:28 rjs232323 ok
03:28 rjs232323 may I ask why?
03:28 rjs232323 performance issue?
03:28 VanessaE because textures always tile/repeat past the first meter of node space
03:28 VanessaE at least on nodeboxes they do
03:28 VanessaE on meshes, it's totally free-form
03:28 rjs232323 ah
03:29 rjs232323 then I need to do mesh node!
03:29 sofar plus you can animate mesh nodes
03:29 VanessaE any reasonable size, any reasonable texture layout
03:29 VanessaE you can animate the textures on nodeboxes too but that's useless in this case.
03:29 rjs232323 *goes to install blender*
03:30 rjs232323 Btw, vanessa
03:30 rjs232323 do you recall our earlier converstation about the flowing water direction?
03:30 VanessaE yes
03:30 rjs232323 I found out by accident
03:30 rjs232323 that there is a way to determine their facing direction
03:30 VanessaE sure, look for other water nodes nearby :)
03:30 rjs232323 and their flowing height
03:30 VanessaE flow height is param2 I think
03:31 rjs232323 yes!
03:31 rjs232323 flow height is param2, and direction facing is param 1
03:31 VanessaE it is??
03:31 rjs232323 yes!
03:31 VanessaE O_o
03:31 VanessaE huh.  didn't know that
03:31 rjs232323 thats why I'm spilling it now!
03:31 rjs232323 I Want to make animation work with that
03:31 VanessaE doesn't sound right though, param1 is supposed to be for light calculations
03:32 * VanessaE shrugs
03:32 VanessaE as long as it works :)
03:32 rjs232323 let me play around with it
03:32 rjs232323 just to be safe
03:33 rjs232323 correction:
03:33 rjs232323 param 2 is direction of flowing water, param1 is strength of water (the height of it)
03:33 rjs232323 I had it backward
03:34 VanessaE hm.  been too long since I futzed around with liquids.
03:34 rjs232323 :P
03:37 rjs232323 Ok, apparently, I revisited it to double check the flowing water direction
03:38 rjs232323 I'm wrong >>, back to drawing board
03:39 VanessaE well I'm pretty sure you can read param2 for the water height
03:41 rjs232323 yes
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03:51 jordan4ibanez I have good news
03:52 VanessaE ?
03:52 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/a/UPmNA
03:53 VanessaE what IS it?
03:53 jordan4ibanez Hoppers
03:53 VanessaE ah
03:53 VanessaE why not use a mesh node for the top part?
03:54 jordan4ibanez I like using the nodebox
03:56 VanessaE ok.
03:56 VanessaE a mesh would be a better choice here though.  fewer faces
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04:01 rjs232323 Question, since its my first time playing with mesh node
04:01 rjs232323 does it matter how I export it?
04:02 VanessaE rjs232323: not really
04:02 rjs232323 ok
04:02 VanessaE just export it as .obj and make sure it was sized righjt
04:02 VanessaE right*
04:02 rjs232323 using scale
04:02 rjs232323 ok
04:02 VanessaE one blender unit == one minetest cube
04:02 rjs232323 ok
04:02 VanessaE don't adjust the scale at export time
04:03 VanessaE rather, just size the model right as you make it
04:03 rjs232323 so just leave it as it is
04:03 rjs232323 ah
04:03 rjs232323 ok
04:03 rjs232323 when you say one blender unit, you're refering to a grid inside blender
04:03 VanessaE sorta
04:03 VanessaE here, I made this mod as sort of a tutorial:  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=10428
04:03 rjs232323 ah, what is your definition of one blender unit
04:03 rjs232323 oh
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04:04 VanessaE the original .blends should be in there
04:04 rjs232323 you made that just for me!
04:04 VanessaE it also has examples that show you some VERY basic UV mapping
04:04 rjs232323 dandy!
04:04 VanessaE these models are exactly sized to fit one Minetest node
04:04 VanessaE (or two, in a couple of cases)
04:05 VanessaE one "blender unit" means the measurements blender uses in a model.  hard to describe them exactly, but -0.5 in blender coordinates is one edge of a minetest cube, +0.5 is the other edge
04:05 rjs232323 Ah!
04:05 rjs232323 gotcha
04:06 rjs232323 totally makes sense
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04:06 VanessaE the "back" side of a model in blender, i.e. Ctrl-keypad-1, is the front of a minetest node
04:07 VanessaE and thus, right and left are swapped.
04:07 VanessaE (or suffice to say, the whole thing's turned around :P )
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04:09 rjs232323 *plays with Vanessae's toys*
04:10 VanessaE hehe
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04:25 rjs232323 can I animate some part of the mesh node using blender or is that something I need to try animate using inside minetest?
04:27 VanessaE no
04:27 VanessaE only entities can be animated
04:27 VanessaE nodes can't (meshes or otherwise)
04:27 VanessaE but you can at least animate the textures
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04:29 rjs232323 I see, ok.  To animate the texture, this is done in blender or Lua has to do that?
04:29 VanessaE partly in Lua
04:29 VanessaE the rest in the texture itself
04:29 VanessaE arrange your frames in a vertical strip, like a filmstrip
04:30 rjs232323 ok
04:30 VanessaE a few lines of Lua in your node def tells the engine how fast to animate it and what the aspect ratio is
04:30 rjs232323 gotcha
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04:35 Pizza Hello?
04:35 VanessaE hi
04:35 Pizza Its boring everywhere
04:36 VanessaE so do something :)
04:36 Pizza Yeah but I have to be "pretend sleeping "
04:37 VanessaE heh
04:38 rjs232323 oh wow! it works
04:38 rjs232323 awesome
04:38 Pizza What works ?
04:38 rjs232323 Vanessae, you're a big help!
04:39 rjs232323 my very first mesh node
04:39 VanessaE :D
04:39 VanessaE cheers
04:40 Pizza :D
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04:48 rjs232323 Not sure how to solve mesh node being all black
04:48 rjs232323 I must have miss something
04:49 VanessaE paramtype="light"
04:49 VanessaE add this to your node def.
04:51 rjs232323 No luck, it has to do with blender model.  the block model when placed down shows al black, and my item version of that item shows all white in my inventory
04:52 rjs232323 I touch things I shouldn't have touch
04:59 VanessaE weird.  did you texture it yet?
05:01 rjs232323 using doors_steel_a.png
05:01 kahrl was the black mesh node _placed_ before you added paramtype = "light"?
05:01 rjs232323 I'm redoing it
05:01 rjs232323 yes
05:01 rjs232323 before/after yes
05:01 kahrl you need to re-place it to update lighting
05:02 rjs232323 oh
05:02 rjs232323 interestin
05:02 rjs232323 now its all white!
05:02 kahrl progress :D
05:02 rjs232323 haha
05:02 rjs232323 yes!
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05:04 rjs232323 ah ha!
05:04 rjs232323 i somehow deleted its UV
05:04 rjs232323 ok its all good now :D
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05:38 ChuckNorris Hmmm?
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05:46 melvin whos on
05:47 ChuckNorris Hello
05:47 ChuckNorris I am trying to regain my nick
05:47 ChuckNorris as Birdy
05:47 melvin oh has minetestgabo been on
05:47 ChuckNorris But apparently Someone is using my nick
05:47 melvin f it is how do i get in
05:48 ChuckNorris Um hold on
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05:48 melvin and the interface looks different
05:48 ChuckNorris I am trying to regain control over my nick as Birdy
05:48 melvin k
05:48 melvin ldcoder
05:49 melvin old
05:49 ChuckNorris Oldcoder I need help
05:49 melvin its birdy
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05:49 ChuckNorris Please
05:49 OldCoder Chuck Sure
05:49 OldCoder Free in a few minutes
05:50 melvin someone got he/she i forgots nick as birdy
05:50 ChuckNorris I need to gain control over my nickname . And register it
05:50 ChuckNorris It's weird
05:50 melvin ll be on minetestgabo
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05:54 ChuckNorris I am soo stupid
05:54 melvin crap
05:54 melvin hy
05:55 melvin why
05:55 OldCoder Hi
05:55 OldCoder Which IRC networks?
05:55 OldCoder Freenode or Inchra?
05:55 OldCoder You are Birdy?
05:55 OldCoder How have you lost the nick?
05:55 ChuckNorris Freenode
05:55 melvin i want to know how to join minetest-gabo
05:55 ChuckNorris I registered it wrong
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05:55 OldCoder At which network?
05:55 OldCoder Freenode?
05:56 ChuckNorris i used a fake email and forgot my nick
05:56 ChuckNorris Yes freenode
05:56 OldCoder Fake email is a problem
05:56 ChuckNorris Yeah ik now
05:56 melvin hhhhhuuuuuhhh
05:56 OldCoder Are you Arnaud Luqin?
05:56 ChuckNorris No.
05:56 OldCoder The nick is already registered
05:56 OldCoder You didn't have it anyway
05:56 OldCoder Do a /whois Birdy
05:56 OldCoder Review
05:57 ChuckNorris When was if registered
05:57 ChuckNorris *it
05:57 OldCoder This is what I see:
05:57 ChuckNorris Because I joined irc on February
05:57 ChuckNorris http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2015-02-08
05:57 ChuckNorris my first conversations
05:58 ChuckNorris I swear
05:58 OldCoder Copy paste is not working
05:58 OldCoder But
05:58 OldCoder try /whois Birdy yourself
05:58 OldCoder What do you see
05:58 ChuckNorris Look at the log
05:58 ChuckNorris i was Birdy
05:58 OldCoder Try it pls
05:58 ChuckNorris Okay then
05:58 OldCoder ChuckNorris, come with me to #freenode please
05:58 melvin i tried it arnaud liquin
05:59 ChuckNorris Weird ?
05:59 OldCoder ChuckNorris, come with me to #freenode please
05:59 OldCoder /join #freenode
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06:11 jordan4ibanez Here's an early release of hoppers, goodnight
06:11 jordan4ibanez https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=12379
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06:16 melvin ahhhh
06:17 melvin pung?
06:17 melvin ping?
06:18 melvin stop spamming me
06:18 TheWild could someone lead me to the code where the calculations (ray hitting something) of the pointed thing are?
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06:25 Guest20528 greetings
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06:28 TheWild ok I found it. It's in game.cpp
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08:15 kaeza greetings
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08:17 cd2 hi
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08:19 cd2 Is someone able to kick me out of minetest forums? the logout didnt work :(
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08:57 ThatGraemeGuy someone remind me what exactly is a "block" in "active_block_range"?
08:58 ThatGraemeGuy i.e. how many nodes in size is that block
08:58 Calinou ThatGraemeGuy, 16³
08:58 ThatGraemeGuy i was under the impression its 5x5x5 which would make it 25 nodes but then i see other things saying a block is 16 nodes, so I've got lost
08:59 ThatGraemeGuy oh 16^3, not just 16 nodes
08:59 ThatGraemeGuy thanks Calinou
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09:03 BirdyMeows Meep?
09:03 Calinou hi
09:04 BirdyMeows :3
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09:05 BirdyMeows Calinou: What have you been  Doing ?
09:06 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Say Something Nice Day! 😃
09:06 BirdyMeows Aye :D
09:06 BirdyMeows It's so earlier atm  for me .
09:08 BirdyMeows .......................
09:09 BirdyMeows Everything is so quiet....
09:09 kaeza it's 6 AM. what do you expect?
09:10 kaeza (here, at least :P)
09:10 BirdyMeows Well people like me don't care what the time is
09:10 BirdyMeows I am always awake :D
09:11 BirdyMeows It's 2 am here btw :3
09:11 BirdyMeows 2:11 to be exact .
09:12 BirdyMeows Think I am insomnia XD
09:12 BirdyMeows *have
09:13 BirdyMeows Gets lonely tbh though
09:14 * BirdyMeows might cry to sleep again .
09:15 * BirdyMeows rings doorbell ..., anyone home ?
09:16 BirdyMeows I need some sugar for my coffee .......
09:17 * BirdyMeows sometimes spams too much ....
09:18 BirdyMeows Anyone not like spam ?
09:18 BirdyMeows Echoooooo
09:18 * BirdyMeows leaves now before called annoying
09:20 BirdyMeows Omg my life ......
09:20 BirdyMeows I am practically taking to thin air
09:20 * BirdyMeows wants to play Charlie Charlie
09:21 * BirdyMeows goes to look for paper and pencils
09:21 BirdyMeows Anyone else want to play ?
09:22 BirdyMeows People it's fake so don't judge me
09:22 BirdyMeows Ugh
09:22 BirdyMeows Farewell then :3
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09:24 kaeza !next
09:24 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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09:37 BirdyMeows ...
09:37 BirdyMeows I am am not a costumer .
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09:40 Darcidride Hi everybody, please, some minetest_game devs can approve/check this PR ? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_​game/pull/494#issuecomment-107233546 (thank you in advance :))
09:41 Calinou #minetest-dev
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09:56 CWz any idea why http://pastebin.com/tXEFK6bm this is working right. for some reason it still registers players as placing the nodes. also the register on dignode dignode give the player the item it digs
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10:10 Pizza bored
10:11 kaeza eh it's 7 AM... and must get to work at 8 :|
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10:21 cd2 I cant login in minetest forums, bc after 2 secs I am logged out, does anyone know why?
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11:27 LNJ fhzdjk
11:27 Wayward_Tab Hello
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11:28 LNJ i WAIT FOR jbb
11:28 LNJ HI
11:28 JBB bin schon da
11:28 LNJ ohh caps lock
11:28 JBB ohhaa
11:28 LNJ we are into school
11:28 LNJ we have IT now
11:30 JBB Feinde: Leute die mir mein en Computer wegnehmen wolen
11:31 LNJ xD
11:32 LNJ but you have to speak german
11:32 LNJ sry engliah
11:32 LNJ ohhh these kayboards are very shity
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12:53 WSDguy2014 guys, i downloaded mod Nyan Cat's Heaven, i maded portal puching with stick and dosen't work, help me, here link: forum.minetest.net/viewtopic​.php?f=9&t=7689&hilit=heaven
12:54 WSDguy2014 Here link: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic​.php?f=9&t=7689&hilit=heaven
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12:58 Megaf WSDguy2014: That mod seems to be quite abandoned
12:58 WSDguy2014 but is reworked by Hybrid Dog
13:01 WSDguy2014 i created portal, punching a stick and nothing heppens, i will use modpack "Flight" https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.​php?f=11&t=11257&hilit=flight
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13:01 WSDguy2014 to fly with Magic Carpet to going up, very very long to reach Nyan Cat Heaven
13:03 WSDguy2014 @Megaf Megaf, this mod Nyan Cat's Heaven is reworked by Hybrid Dog
13:04 Megaf WSDguy2014: Yep. Well, I don't know whats wrong, try revuilding your portal, perhaps you missed something.
13:04 Megaf or build it in another location
13:04 WSDguy2014 how about demostration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven?
13:05 WSDguy2014 *demonstration
13:06 WSDguy2014 Megaf: How about demonstration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven?
13:08 WSDguy2014 @Megaf How about demonstration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven?
13:09 Megaf what video?
13:11 WSDguy2014 Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod
13:15 WSDguy2014 @Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod
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13:15 WSDguy2014 @Megaf Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod
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13:55 Wuzzy Hi, is there a way to make the tiny player names in multiplayer bigger? I would prefer a client-side solution.
13:57 VanessaE current minetest dev has normal-sized nametags
13:57 VanessaE I think they change with your font size setting
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14:09 Wuzzy do you mean the names are equally sized than i.e. chat messages?
14:09 VanessaE yes
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14:10 Kenney https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=50&t=12391 I made something
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14:21 Calinou innovative
14:24 Kenney yup, got another idea I want to do next
14:25 Kenney well - two
14:25 Kenney One where players walk through a portal where they get transformed into ants where they can play a few minigames
14:25 Kenney and Minetest Kart
14:26 exio4 Minekart! :p
14:27 Kenney better name indeed, Minekart it is
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14:28 Calinou Minekart sounds very close to Minecart…
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14:28 Kenney Not a huge problem
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14:50 Calinou https://agar-io-clone-d3vont3ch.c9.io/
14:51 Calinou https://github.com/huytd/agar.io-clone for code
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15:08 Amaz I think that the GMP security breaks the irc_commands mod... At least, I can't log in via irc when I've signed into the game with the latest git.
15:11 est31 btw, GMP security != lua sandboxing
15:11 est31 but yea, it might be that case
15:12 est31 Amaz, you are completely right, its broken
15:12 Amaz The server owner says that my password hash is much longer than anyone elses :P
15:12 est31 hehe, yea, it is
15:13 est31 I'll make a lua api function to check whether a password matches the one in the db
15:13 est31 and perhaps a PR to the irc_commands mod
15:14 Amaz Thanks :)
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15:15 hoodedice Calinou, you have me sold on godot
15:16 hoodedice but only 26MB download -> why?
15:17 est31 In the short term, let you give yourself an old password by the admin with /setpassword
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15:31 VanessaE est31: I have to wonder if he has as yet updated his IRC mods..  there was a patch added for the sandbox.
15:32 est31 yea but amaz meant my srp patch, and there its no big suprise
15:33 est31 because what I think the irc mod does is making a sha-1 hash of the sent password, and then comparing that to the database entry
15:34 est31 but in the case of srp, there is no sha-1
15:34 est31 or there is more than sha-1
15:34 VanessaE ah
15:34 VanessaE it's a good thing I haven't pulled recently :)
15:35 sfan5 hm
15:35 sfan5 using the IRC mod will defeat the whole security point of SRP
15:35 sfan5 unless you have a script that implements SRP over IRC
15:36 est31 yup
15:36 est31 thats part of the reasoning why I haven't implemented such a function yet
15:37 est31 it encourages server owners to request player's passwords outside of the srp protocol
15:38 Calinou hoodedice, the whole engine is a big executable, all resources are bundled
15:38 Calinou there is no installer
15:38 Calinou be sure to download and install export templates to export your games
15:41 hoodedice where do I get the linux builds from?
15:43 hoodedice or nvm, I'll find it out from their chan
15:43 Calinou hoodedice, build from source
15:43 Calinou it's fairly easy
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15:43 Calinou you need scons (sudo apt-get install scons)
15:44 Calinou then do: scons platform=x11 inside the Godot directory once you cloned it
15:44 * marktraceur has laid about 20,000 cobblestone in the past two days
15:44 marktraceur It may be time to take a break
15:44 est31 don't forget to paste it in bold writing
15:44 est31 bash won't accept normal style
15:45 Calinou there's no preformatted marking on IRC, or a way to distinguish code
15:45 Calinou I could use a colour too
15:45 hoodedice no prebuilts?
15:45 hoodedice =(
15:45 Calinou https://godot.blob.core.windows.net/rel​ease/2015-05-21/godot_x11-1.1stable.64
15:45 Calinou https://godot.blob.core.windows.net/rel​ease/2015-05-21/godot_x11-1.1stable.32
15:45 Calinou 64-bit and 32-bit respectively
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15:50 Calinou hoodedice, we have a subreddit, http://reddit.com/r/godot
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16:55 RealBadAngel ooh, theres Jordach
16:55 hoodedice Calinou, reddit is kill (@ Jordach)
16:55 hoodedice heya RBA
16:55 RealBadAngel ive got something for ya
16:55 hoodedice ooooh *me excite*
16:57 hoodedice Jordach is playing Space Engies, RealBadAngel
16:57 hoodedice show it to me
16:57 RealBadAngel this is again bout shaders
16:57 hoodedice oooooh pls
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16:57 RealBadAngel im about to make PR which will improve parallax occlusion mapping
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16:57 Jordach WHAT
16:57 hoodedice ^there he is, I pulled him here =)
16:58 Jordach pics or gtfo
16:58 hoodedice RBA pls
16:58 RealBadAngel http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20​150601_152217-wzkAH38N.1433177870.png
16:58 RealBadAngel eat THAT :P
16:58 luizrpgluiz hi all
16:58 Jordach seems too smooth
16:58 hoodedice Hole E. Shit
16:58 RealBadAngel Jordach, up to settings
16:59 hoodedice we need work on lighting actually
16:59 hoodedice shaders look good tho RBA, another great job =)
16:59 RealBadAngel but you wont complain anymore bout that it works differently
16:59 RealBadAngel i do own now tangent space, all the methods are aviable
17:00 hoodedice so what exactly is different in this RBA?
17:00 hoodedice like, Changelog style difference
17:00 RealBadAngel previously we had faked tangent space, computed on the fly in shaders
17:00 RealBadAngel now, its real
17:01 RealBadAngel so, shaders are faster
17:01 hoodedice two questions: 1. Is this faster
17:01 RealBadAngel WAY faster
17:01 hoodedice okay, so that is solved
17:01 hoodedice 2. Is the computation offset to the GPU or is this CPU side?
17:01 RealBadAngel GPU
17:02 hoodedice yaay
17:02 RealBadAngel and lighter than before
17:02 RealBadAngel because we had to compute fake tangent space before
17:02 RealBadAngel now we dont have to
17:02 hoodedice yaay
17:02 hoodedice me excite
17:03 hoodedice RBA, can you point me to some resources (documentations) you used for this
17:03 RealBadAngel previously there was a limit, very touchy, after which textures were going mad
17:04 RealBadAngel now you can set the height (depth) of your wish
17:05 RealBadAngel that means we are compatible with all the papers around on occlusion mapping
17:06 RealBadAngel ive picked iterative parallax mapping with slope information (to avoid textures swimming) with some slight modifications of mine
17:06 RealBadAngel and it fuckin rocks the hous
17:06 RealBadAngel e
17:06 sfan5 <insert i know some of these words .gif here>
17:06 VanessaE good, now push the code to your repo :)
17:07 RealBadAngel as usual, need to clean the mess first ;)
17:07 RealBadAngel im very messy coder ;)
17:07 RealBadAngel but this pearl is just a star
17:08 RealBadAngel perfect example on how to write minimal code and get maximal results
17:09 Calinou http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20​150601_152217-wzkAH38N.1433178541.png
17:09 est31 the universe is programmed using perl
17:09 Calinou woud be nice if we had a Minetest Ultra texture pack
17:09 Calinou would be a 256² pack, faithful to the originals :P
17:09 Calinou quite hard to do, but I'm sure it's possible
17:10 RealBadAngel Calinou, for that we would need very talented GFX man
17:11 RealBadAngel my textures are too 'technic'
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17:17 hoodedice (request for docs were ignored)
17:18 RealBadAngel docs are not really needed
17:19 RealBadAngel just make maps using CrazyBump, gimp or InsaneBump
17:19 RealBadAngel whatever
17:19 RealBadAngel only thing you have to take care of is that height have to be in alpha channel
17:20 RealBadAngel so normal map combined with height in .a
17:20 Calinou AwesomeBump is the new thing :P
17:20 RealBadAngel but thats common
17:21 Calinou https://github.com/kmkolasinski/AwesomeBump
17:21 RealBadAngel Calinou, About heightmaps i found out that man always can do better ones
17:21 RealBadAngel we do have areas perception built in
17:22 RealBadAngel many algorithms get lost while trying to do so
17:23 RealBadAngel still, GFX is an art
17:27 Calinou lol
17:27 Calinou first comment has 2211 points
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17:27 Krock 2212
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17:37 rubenwardy I can't be bothered to do any more. Maybe another time :P http://dev.minetest.net/Modding_Book
17:40 Calinou anyone for a game of chess?
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17:41 RealBadAngel Calinou, sadly i have no time today, but one day for sure
17:41 RealBadAngel i love that game
17:41 Calinou http://lichess.org/p47irHmi
17:41 Calinou first one to click plays
17:41 Calinou highlight me on IRC if I'm away
17:42 RealBadAngel its time limited?
17:42 RealBadAngel or?
17:42 Calinou yes, 10 mins per player
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17:50 Yellowberry Ahoy
17:50 Calinou hi Yellowberry
17:50 Yellowberry Anything new with minetest?
17:50 Calinou long time no see
17:50 hoodedice RBA, I meant OpenGL docs
17:50 Yellowberry Yeah, indeed Calinou
17:50 Yellowberry Been busy with school and programming
17:51 Yellowberry I actually just finished my math finals
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17:51 Yellowberry Hello bobomb
17:51 Calinou I have exams too…
17:51 bobomb hi
17:52 bobomb mod question: is there a way to register_abm with a list of nodes that uses a wildcard, or all nodes in a mod? instead of listing each one explicitly
17:53 Calinou okay, my opponent left, so http://lichess.org/iOaVTpTB
17:54 Krock bobomb, you can use "group:my_group"
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17:56 bobomb so i can use neighbors = {group:mygroup}
17:57 bobomb or nodenames = {group:mygroup}
17:57 Krock both
17:58 bobomb how do i define or register a group?
17:59 RealBadAngel Calinou, theres time limit??
17:59 Calinou it's automatic bobomb
17:59 Calinou RealBadAngel, yes, 10 minutes per player
17:59 Calinou (I can change it)
18:00 RealBadAngel shit, i had a visitor here, had to go away :(
18:00 Krock bobomb, it's defined in each node's definition in the table "groups"
18:02 rubenwardy If no nodes are a member of mygroup, then it just doesn't run (ABM doesn't)
18:02 rubenwardy Because there is nothing to run it on
18:03 rubenwardy Simples
18:03 rubenwardy :P
18:03 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl545RF6dXA
18:05 RealBadAngel anyway im back to preparing pull
18:05 RealBadAngel Calinou, we can play other day
18:05 bobomb ok so far, but when i try to do nodenames={group:mygroup} with no quotes it throws error expecting method, with quotes nothing happens.
18:05 Yellowberry hoodedwater: ha
18:05 hoodedwater related #godotengine
18:06 VanessaE Calinou: Awesomebump has got to be THE WORST user interface I've ever seen - confusing as fuck
18:06 Krock bobomb, how about nodenames = { "group:wood" } ?
18:06 Calinou heh
18:06 Calinou yeah, I agree
18:06 hoodedwater !g awesomebump
18:06 MinetestBot hoodedwater: https://github.com/kmkolasinski/AwesomeBump
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18:08 Calinou hoofdecide
18:09 bobomb ok i got it, i was not doing mygroup=1 in the node def, just mygroup doesn't work, and mygroup = true threw error
18:09 bobomb well this is awesome. any warnings about registering nodes on the fly? haha
18:10 Yellowberry ha
18:10 Yellowberry people in #python are essentially calling me insane
18:10 Yellowberry looks like they don't know me
18:10 hoodedice ?
18:11 Yellowberry I am trying to make a web browser from scratch in python
18:12 hoodedice ahahahahahhaha
18:12 hoodedice GG m8
18:12 hoodedice gr8 b8 there
18:12 hoodedice okay okay, but why?
18:12 bobomb yellowberry, how about an ingame browser block for minetest
18:13 Yellowberry I hate my current browsers, they are either too slow or too clunky or they don't support shit
18:13 hoodedice pale moon on windows man
18:13 hoodedice you'll need to compile for linux
18:13 bobomb lynx
18:13 hoodedice the only thing it doesn't support are some deprecated security features
18:13 hoodedice which is a good thing
18:14 Yellowberry so it supports html5 and all that jazz?
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18:14 hoodedice (but I have to switch for firefox to use my bank account)
18:14 hoodedice yes it does
18:14 hoodedice it is a firefox fork with support for some cpu features
18:14 hoodedice light on memory as well
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18:14 hoodedice !g pale moon linux build
18:15 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pm4linux/
18:15 hoodedice uh, let me get you something to read
18:15 Calinou pale moon is worthless
18:15 Yellowberry I just found the site
18:15 Yellowberry Also, it's just firecocks
18:15 hoodedice https://www.palemoon.org/sourcecode.shtml
18:15 Calinou watch your language :p
18:16 hoodedice firewhat?
18:16 Calinou hoodedice, https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml
18:16 Yellowberry firefox under a different name, practically
18:16 hoodedice it is firefox with some really needed security overhauls and cpu features
18:16 Calinou it's 2015 and we lack a proper Firefox
18:17 Calinou IceCat is too slow and not maintained enough, and its extensions store is ugly
18:17 Calinou it's also 2015 and we lack a proper Chromium
18:17 hoodedice MPL allows for it cal, and I don't see a problem with that IMO
18:17 Calinou (one that doesn't phone home)
18:17 RealBadAngel Calinou, ive found out that makin good heightmaps is not so difficult
18:17 hoodedice as long as you do not have a rogue developer, free software should have protections from scamming
18:17 RealBadAngel i will write a guide on it
18:18 RealBadAngel effects are excellent
18:18 Calinou selling and commercial use are important freedoms, especially in developing countries
18:18 Calinou where Internet access is not as widespread
18:18 sfan5 Calinou: chromium phones home?
18:18 rjs232323 when I write a value of int to meta using set_string, it writes without any error reporting.  But when I try to access its meta using get_string using {x=50,y=6, z 10}as the pos variable, it returns nil. Why?
18:18 bobomb you can compile elinks with js support http://elinks.or.cz/
18:18 Calinou sfan5, there are tons of blog articles on this
18:18 Calinou it phones home less than Google Chrome, but still phones home
18:18 rjs232323 the position are the same (i just printed it out to test something out)
18:18 Calinou on top of that, it's not distributed as a ready-to-go binary that auto-updates
18:18 sfan5 Calinou: can i have a link?
18:19 Calinou I don't have any at hand, sorry
18:19 Yellowberry I am unfarmiliar with that expression
18:19 sfan5 <Calinou> on top of that, it's not distributed as a ready-to-go binary that auto-updates
18:19 sfan5 linux isn't either
18:19 sfan5 why do you use linux?
18:19 bobomb RealBadAngel, I'm interested in heightmaps
18:19 bobomb can you send me a link
18:19 sfan5 (hint: use packages managers)
18:19 est31 ^
18:19 est31 self updating binaries are horrible windows bullshit
18:19 sfan5 ^
18:20 est31 finally win 10 has a package manager
18:20 sfan5 it does?
18:20 bobomb RealBadAngel dp you know a mod that uses heightmaps in the mapgen?
18:20 Calinou oh, I found this btw http://chromium.woolyss.com/
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18:20 Calinou sfan5, yes, called OneGet
18:20 Calinou we had unofficial stuff like Chocolatey before
18:20 est31 sfan5, only for powershell https://github.com/OneGet/oneget
18:20 sfan5 that sounds nicwe
18:20 sfan5 -w
18:20 Calinou (Minetest is available through it)
18:20 est31 yes but outdated AFAIK
18:21 est31 yes, still 0.4.10 https://chocolatey.org/packages/minetest
18:21 Yellowberry they are also switching to branch develoopment, it appears
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18:21 bobomb mod question: is there a way to list/find all nodes in the world by name or group?
18:21 sfan5 no
18:21 sfan5 doing that would take ages
18:21 est31 but inside a given area
18:21 sfan5 even in C++
18:22 bobomb so if i create a node on the fly, then exit the game, then enter the game, the node will be unknown, so i would have to write it to a file or something
18:22 est31 bobomb, mods that need functionality like this, like the travelnet mod, use tables they serialize into extra files
18:22 bobomb and load it at -- right
18:22 bobomb thanks
18:22 est31 so when sb builds a node, it gets entered into the table
18:23 est31 you shouldn't register nodes on the fly
18:23 RealBadAngel bobomb, heightmaps im using are completely different thing than mapgen ones
18:23 RealBadAngel mine are about pixels of texture displacement
18:24 RealBadAngel it has nothing to do with mapgen
18:24 bobomb ah. ok
18:24 bobomb yeah i will find a better way to do this than registering nodes on the fly
18:24 bobomb like just using the metadata
18:25 bobomb however, i like to use worldedit //replace or //mix so i want the nodes defined
18:25 RealBadAngel bobomb, what is your area of interest?
18:25 bobomb at this time
18:25 bobomb RealBadAngel, I want a mapgen mod that loads heightmaps stored as publicly available DigitalElevationModels.
18:26 bobomb which are usually about 100mb in size per tile, and one pixel represents 30m square to 1m elevation accuracy
18:26 RealBadAngel prove me if im wrong, you want terrain to be generated based on heightmaps?
18:26 bobomb yes that's right
18:27 RealBadAngel possible but the person you should talk to is paramat or hmmm
18:27 RealBadAngel those guys do the mapgens
18:27 bobomb i know, i have. i'm working on a silly mod right now to get familiar with modding then i will take their advice
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18:28 bobomb i just heard you mention heightmaps, and jumped to a conclusion
18:28 RealBadAngel even simple "plus" has many meanings
18:28 RealBadAngel im doing a bit different things than that
18:29 bobomb i gather
18:29 rjs232323 I'm stuck with the meta:get_string issue. Been trying to figure out whats wrong wtih this for hours now. Here's the logs: http://pastebin.com/qYn1WuLX
18:29 bobomb is there a way to apply an ABM to meta strings?
18:30 Yellowberry anyone know the current required minimum required specs to host a minetest server for 20 with little to no lag?
18:31 Yellowberry 20 people, that is
18:31 hoodedice IMO 4GB RAM, dual core proc
18:31 RealBadAngel rjs232323, please read technic tools code
18:31 hoodedice without a client session running
18:31 RealBadAngel theyre using meta to store any data
18:32 RealBadAngel in fact tables
18:32 Yellowberry hoodedice: how about net speed and the likes?
18:32 hoodedice net speed highly depends more on geographic location than speed IMO
18:32 luizrpgluiz hi
18:33 hoodedice no matter how fast your internets is, you are limited first by location
18:33 Yellowberry true.
18:33 hoodedice again, an IMO
18:33 Yellowberry All of the people connecting to the server are in the US
18:33 hoodedice also, I'm guessing vanilla mt_game
18:33 Yellowberry yes, vanilla
18:34 hoodedice I had a couple of people from europe and a couple from the states
18:34 RealBadAngel rjs232323, https://github.com/minetest-technic/techni​c/blob/master/technic/tools/flashlight.lua
18:34 hoodedice the people fromt he states didn't complain
18:34 RealBadAngel its a good example
18:34 luizrpgluiz what do you think I use dynvpn on my server?
18:35 hoodedice the ones from europe got off and tried to make a minecrap server
18:35 Yellowberry well, I've got a 16GB quad core with 5gbps down and 3gbps up, 2TB of space, Arch Linux. Do you think I've got enough?
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18:35 hoodedice ...show off
18:36 hoodedice get out
18:36 Yellowberry lol
18:36 Yellowberry If you want, after I get setted in, I can give you a sizable chunk of it
18:36 Yellowberry for free
18:36 hoodedice sure
18:36 Yellowberry Ok, i'll let you know
18:36 hoodedice I'll use ti to decompile apks and to compile my homework next semester
18:36 Yellowberry ha
18:37 Yellowberry so, is it enough?
18:37 Yellowberry is there anything I am missing?
18:37 Yellowberry Also, it's in Texas
18:37 hoodedice you're missing an OS that can do fancy stuff like...
18:38 Sinkidonk can anyone help me with this pieces of code http://pastebin.com/c7JPieaj I can't get post_effect_color to work the input, I get no error and I don't know how to troubleshot, the problem, it look like post_effect_color is treating the input as not existent, for the code in full view http://bit.ly/1BDAvVT an github link.
18:38 hoodedice ...play vidya
18:38 Yellowberry eh, Arch Linux is ok
18:39 hoodedice is that a xeon?
18:39 Yellowberry I don't remember off the top of my head, lemme go check
18:39 rjs232323 RealBadAngel, Am trying to do minetest.env:set_string that can store both string and int.   Like here https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blo​b/master/technic/machines/supply_converter.lua
18:40 Yellowberry It is, not sure which one
18:40 rjs232323 I'm converting int to string and storing it via set_string. But accessing it from meta:get_string() with same location, it returns nill which is very odd result
18:40 RealBadAngel meta is a table
18:41 RealBadAngel treat it so
18:41 RealBadAngel better for you will be trying to understand the following code:
18:42 rjs232323 well, I'm afraid I don't understand.  It's a table that acts like associative array but persists in HDD right?
18:42 Yellowberry hoodedice: ^
18:42 hoodedice ?
18:42 Yellowberry "It is, not sure which one "
18:42 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/bl​ob/master/technic/tools/mining_drill.lua#L241
18:42 hoodedice yeah, got that
18:42 hoodedice cool.
18:42 Yellowberry oh, ok
18:43 hoodedice currently running on a late 2006 mac mini with 1.8 GHz C2D
18:43 RealBadAngel here we read the meta  (the root table)
18:43 hoodedice xubuntu, latest
18:43 RealBadAngel and then the fields in it
18:43 Yellowberry Xubuntu is good
18:43 hoodedice main laptop is a 1.9 dual core celery 6GB of RAM with windows 8.1
18:44 Krock Somehow I'm the only here sitting on a singlecore PC.
18:44 hoodedice I teamviewer into this mac book to compile/decompile stuff. It is a work mac so I can't exactly take it home
18:44 Yellowberry Well, my main PC isn't even close to that powerful
18:44 hoodedice lolwut
18:45 Yellowberry my main: Windows XP, 500GB HDD, 2GB DDR2 ram, x2 Pentiums
18:45 Yellowberry not the greatest
18:46 Krock ^ my hero
18:46 hoodedice well, I guess you have a stronk server, so you prolly don't care about the client machine
18:46 Yellowberry yeah
18:46 hoodedice but how did you get dem internets?
18:46 Yellowberry But wait!
18:46 Yellowberry Fiber
18:46 Yellowberry :D
18:46 rjs232323 Ok, so what's the purpose of minecraft_env:set_string then?
18:47 rjs232323 I'm trying to understand the system
18:47 Krock >minecraft
18:47 hoodedice ^
18:47 Yellowberry lol
18:47 Krock dude, it's meta:set_string
18:47 hoodedice fiber? google fiber?
18:47 Krock and don't use minetest.env:, switch to minetest. or core.
18:47 Yellowberry not sure if it's google fiber, it could be
18:47 rjs232323 meta = minetest_env*
18:48 Yellowberry also
18:48 Yellowberry getting an amazing deal on it
18:48 rjs232323 oh, elaborate on that? core?
18:48 Yellowberry 20$/year
18:48 Yellowberry anyway
18:48 hoodedice ...
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18:48 Yellowberry I have nice friends, that's call I can say
18:49 Yellowberry *all
18:49 hoodedice "amazing" is an understatement?
18:49 Krock rjs232323, local meta = minetest.get_meta(pos) -> meta:set_string("key", "value"), that's how it's used
18:49 hoodedice *.
18:49 hoodedice also, I doubt you have nice friends. You prolly have an uncle at comcast =P
18:49 Yellowberry LOL
18:49 Yellowberry Nah
18:49 Yellowberry it's rubenwardy!
18:50 rubenwardy It's raining, so the internet is terrible
18:50 Yellowberry Ha, i've got 10 minutes to eat lunch before I have class again, I will be back
18:50 rubenwardy No idea why it happens
18:50 hoodedice > class
18:50 hoodedice tfw yellow is a student
18:50 * Yellowberry is in 9th grade
18:50 * hoodedice flips table
18:50 hoodedice I'm done
18:51 rjs232323 Krock, I understand.  I'm using meta:set_string("motus_source","13") but when I use get_string with same key, it returns nil (using same pos)
18:51 jordan4ibanez what is the hotbar inventory called?
18:51 hoodedice "top line of the inventory"
18:52 Krock rjs232323, so is meta:get_string("motus_source") returning nil??
18:52 Krock are you sure the node you called is loaded?
18:52 hoodedice suddenly, I don't believe that yellow has all that that he says he has *skeptic*
18:53 rjs232323 yes,  I'm next to it right now so I'm pretty sure its loaded.  HAven't left the area yet.   Here's the log :https://codeload.github.com/mine​test-technic/technic/zip/master
18:53 rjs232323 It writes here:
18:53 rjs232323 writing -48     6       -12     motus_source    13
18:53 rjs232323 at  that pos, with key of motus_source with the value of 13 (13.."" to make sure its a string to see if nil is coming from mistype or something)
18:54 rjs232323 but using meta:get_string("motus_source")
18:54 rjs232323 getting motus_source    -48     6       -12  -- this should be 13 but its returning nil? Why?
18:55 Krock strange
18:55 rjs232323 oh wow, I think i detected an extra space there. Double checking my script
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18:57 rjs232323 nvm, I dont see any extra space
18:58 rjs232323 very puzzling
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19:08 Yellowberry I have returned! now running Pale Moon!
19:08 Yellowberry It seems to be slightly less laggy
19:09 hoodedice <hoodedice> suddenly, I don't believe that yellow has all that that he says he has *skeptic*
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19:10 rubenwardy Implying you don't use a desktop client O_o
19:10 rubenwardy Oh, kiwiirc's decent
19:10 rubenwardy much better than webchat
19:10 rubenwardy OHHH
19:10 rubenwardy You're at school
19:10 rubenwardy When do I get kicked?
19:11 Yellowberry Kicked from here?
19:11 hoodedice what is even
19:11 rubenwardy is
19:11 rubenwardy it
19:11 rubenwardy time
19:11 rubenwardy based?
19:11 hoodedice what are runben even i cant
19:11 rubenwardy oh, shadowbot's away
19:11 hoodedice inchranet is kill
19:11 rubenwardy R.I.P
19:12 Yellowberry And this is why you don't walk into a channel and start talking
19:12 Yellowberry Rip in kill
19:12 hoodedice yello
19:12 hoodedice need into proof that you have a 16 gb with 5gbps down
19:12 rubenwardy this makes me sad: http://a.pomf.se/gcpydp.png
19:13 hoodedice > steam reviews
19:13 Yellowberry is not up yet. I will have access in mid july
19:13 Yellowberry LOL
19:13 hoodedice [skepticing intensifies]
19:14 Yellowberry [[intensifies] intensifies]
19:14 Yellowberry also, I am as skeptic as you are, hoodedice
19:14 hoodedice about what
19:14 rubenwardy this makes me cringe: http://a.pomf.se/cyvhze.png
19:15 Yellowberry sometimes my friends are rude, putting it lightly
19:15 hoodedice send him a hello world code in C++
19:15 rubenwardy lol
19:16 rubenwardy Saying "anyone who says banter should be shot"
19:16 Yellowberry yes
19:16 rubenwardy Anyway, gtg. I'll read the log :P
19:24 rjs232323 Could reading meta:get_String from different file receive nil instead of its value?
19:26 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Hoppers
19:27 jordan4ibanez Can a moderator move this into mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=12379
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19:31 CWz builtin init.lua seems to have bene broken
19:32 est31 in which way?
19:32 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: moved~
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20:14 Yellowberry It got really silent all of a suddent
20:14 hoodedice indeed
20:15 Creeper i know
20:15 jordan4ibanez sfan5: Thank you
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20:22 rjs232323 correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't minetest:get_meta(pos) return a table from that position?
20:23 rjs232323 when I write using meta:set_string(pos) on different position, it overwrites previous meta:set_string on a different pos variable somehow.  I double checked the pos and the cordinates are different yet it still overwrite it like pos didn't change
20:28 rjs232323 like if i write meta:set_set("_source","5") for {x=5, y=5, z=10} then write meta:set_string( "_source","15" ) for {x=6,y=6,z=10} and then call meta:set_string("_source") from {x=5, y=5, z=10}, it returns "15" instead of "5"
20:28 rjs232323 I don't understand why it's behaving that way
20:30 Yellowberry thank god from FreeDNS
20:30 Yellowberry *for
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20:42 Creeper i need help with server
20:43 BirdyMeows hmm?
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20:55 TheWild rjs232323 you mean meta:get_string("_source"), didn't you?
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21:03 bobomb modding: if i try to use minetest.register_node from within another function, core.get_current_modname() fails any ideas?
21:04 est31 when do you call core.get_current_modname() ?
21:05 est31 first of all you should do minetest.get_current_modname
21:06 bobomb it is called by register_node
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21:06 est31 ah
21:06 est31 yea, you shouldn't call register_node when not loading
21:07 * Creeper need help hosting server
21:07 bobomb but i want to register a node on the fly
21:07 est31 that isn't possible
21:07 est31 what is your usecase
21:07 est31 Creeper, what is your question
21:07 bobomb a programmable node
21:07 Creeper i cant get the server up.
21:07 est31 programmable in which way?
21:08 Creeper at all, no firewall, port forwarded on ip and port,
21:08 bobomb i have a node with a form, if the input validates, then the node is converted to another node type, if that node type is not yet registered, it needs to become registered.
21:08 est31 Creeper, what does it say when you try to start it? can you paste the output to gist.github.com and link here?
21:08 Creeper nothing........
21:08 bobomb i also have a file that saves nodes registered in this way to the world
21:08 Creeper says absolute nothing
21:09 bobomb and loads them at startup, that loading won't work either until i solve this.
21:09 VanessaE bobomb: the best you can do is fake those nodes with entities, since you can define their models and textures after-the-fact.
21:09 est31 Creeper, how do you start it?
21:09 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Allow more characters in file names https:/ http://git.io/vkDfG (2015-06-01T17:08:43-04:00)
21:09 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Localize mkdir helper https:/ http://git.io/vkDfZ (2015-06-01T16:53:03-04:00)
21:10 bobomb entities huh? will read
21:10 VanessaE mmhm
21:10 Creeper Server: Login, and already port forwarded
21:10 Creeper but the server still not online...
21:10 est31 Creeper, yes but how do you start the server?
21:11 Creeper i dont get it
21:11 est31 from command line?
21:11 Creeper wat do you mean......
21:11 Creeper np
21:11 Creeper o
21:11 Creeper *NO!
21:11 est31 how then?
21:11 Creeper i use the server tab in the minetest application
21:12 est31 ok
21:12 bobomb VanessaE i think i should have done this with entities from the very start. haha
21:12 est31 so you can join yourself?
21:12 Creeper yes. nobody else
21:12 VanessaE bobomb: entities are limited in usefulness - they're buggy and cost FPS
21:12 VanessaE so use them as little as possible
21:13 bobomb oh well that sucks. i might have to use metadata then.
21:13 Creeper is there a possible way to make nyancats spawn in the sky? just asking lol
21:13 est31 Creeper, yes there is even a mod
21:14 Creeper wow, lol
21:15 Creeper how do you start the server from command line?
21:15 est31 just open it and type minetest --server
21:15 bobomb minetestserver
21:15 est31 or minetestserver
21:15 Creeper I FORGOT TO DO THAT
21:15 est31 then it will ask you for the world
21:15 Creeper i even forgot the --worldname --sever whatever thingy!
21:17 Creeper what do you right click to open the command promt?
21:17 Creeper like what minetest file... i kniow i did it once
21:18 Yellowberry You on windows?
21:18 Creeper The Windows 8 version of KittyFishy 7
21:19 Creeper basicaly, yeah
21:19 Yellowberry Oh, ok
21:19 Yellowberry so
21:20 Yellowberry hold shift and right click on an empty space in the folder with the minetest executable in it and click open command window here
21:20 Yellowberry and there you go
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21:30 blaise hello...
21:30 Yellowberry Hi
21:30 blaise :D
21:30 blaise how ya doin?
21:31 Yellowberry Oh, I'm doing ok. Just doing finals
21:31 Yellowberry Nothing too special
21:31 blaise cool..
21:31 Yellowberry https://github.com/realtinymonster/grass
21:32 Yellowberry Do you guys think I should get back into making minetest mods?
21:33 Yellowberry brb
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21:33 Creeper help
21:34 blaise Creeper: sup?
21:34 blaise yellowberry wrote a web browser in python?!
21:34 blaise cheese and rice!
21:34 Creeper need to config irc mod, dont know what to put!
21:34 blaise Creeper: I've done it with no troubles, I will be more than happy to answer your questions
21:35 blaise :D
21:35 blaise Creeper: you do have an ircd running, yes?
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21:35 Creeper i need to see what i ned to put in order to configure it to join irc.inchra.net on channel #creeptest port 6667...
21:36 blaise Creeper: also, last time I messed with it, the irc mod for minetest didn't support ssl irc connections
21:36 Yellowberry 6667 isn't ssl....
21:36 blaise 6697 is
21:37 blaise I was just making a statement to my own alement with the mod, the only one in fact.. :)
21:38 blaise Creeper: aight, all settings for the irc mod are stored in your minetest.conf
21:39 Creeper ok
21:40 blaise Creeper: so "irc.server irc.inchra.net" would be the first line to add
21:40 Creeper what about the =??
21:41 Creeper DONE
21:41 blaise ehrm.. try it.. I didn't use one
21:41 Creeper I DID CHANNEL TOO
21:41 blaise cool
21:41 blaise they added sasl support.. interesting
21:41 blaise :D
21:41 blaise too bad it's not ssl enabled yet
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21:43 blaise I can't get recent mesacons mod to work with 0.4.10 or with 0.4.12
21:43 blaise lol
21:43 blaise am I not supposed to be using git?
21:45 Yellowberry Anyone know what happened to 0gb.us?
21:45 Yellowberry He died, it appears
21:45 blaise maybe he's on vacation?
21:45 Yellowberry For like 2 years?
21:45 Yellowberry I think not
21:46 Yellowberry damn, has it really been that long?
21:46 blaise true..
21:46 Yellowberry wow
21:47 blaise maybe he was commited to a mental facility, or landed in jail/prison?
21:47 Yellowberry Possible
21:48 Yellowberry unlikely, but possible, nevertheless
21:50 Amaz "When you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth"
21:52 blaise ;)
21:53 Creeper need help with irc mod, init.lua fail
21:56 blaise the actual error would be helpful in helping you
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21:57 kaeza_ Greetings
21:58 Yellowberry hi kaeza_
21:58 rjs232323 Thewild, yes I did
21:58 blaise kaeza_: o/
21:58 rjs232323 I meant to say meta:get_string("_source")
21:59 blaise Yellowberry: I can't believe you wrote a web browser in python
21:59 blaise Yellowberry: was that your school project?
22:00 Yellowberry blaise: *am writing, it's nowhere near complete, and no, I was just bored
22:00 Creeper hello???
22:01 Yellowberry Creeper: Please provide what the error says
22:01 Creeper the debug doesnt save!!! idk why??
22:01 blaise it's in the log file
22:01 blaise the error
22:01 Creeper what log file?
22:02 blaise the minetest server log file
22:02 Creeper huh??
22:02 Creeper OHHHH!!!
22:02 blaise it will tell you what line of the init.lua it had a problem with
22:02 blaise we need that error to help you
22:02 Creeper wait... what?
22:03 blaise I quit
22:03 * blaise walks away and lights up a cigarette
22:03 TheWild rjs232323, could you provide a script?
22:03 * Yellowberry slaps blaise and scolds them for smoking
22:03 Creeper what file is it???
22:04 Creeper where?
22:04 Yellowberry I believe it is called minetest.log
22:04 Yellowberry not positive
22:04 Creeper HELP
22:05 Yellowberry USING ALL CAPS ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE
22:05 Creeper ugh!! i ned to get used to this!!!! im getting frustrated
22:05 Amaz Yellowberry, it's debug.txt
22:05 Yellowberry Oh, ok
22:05 Creeper and it doesnt save there!!
22:05 Yellowberry I haven't used minetest in a long while
22:06 Yellowberry Ahaha
22:06 Yellowberry http://ismycomputeron.com/
22:06 blaise Creeper: it will look similar to this one.. 21:51:48: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ....minetest/mods/plantlife_mo​dpack/plants_lib/init.lua:430: attempt to call field 'get_us_time' (a nil value)
22:07 blaise lmao
22:07 blaise gdmf
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22:07 Creeper and where is the file that its in????
22:07 Creeper hi kaeza
22:07 kaeza o/
22:07 Yellowberry \o
22:08 Creeper wat???
22:10 Yellowberry http://www.webvalued.com/ismycomputeron.com.html
22:10 Yellowberry wow
22:10 Yellowberry ^k
22:10 Yellowberry *6k
22:10 Yellowberry nearly 7
22:10 Creeper can skmebody help me!?!?!
22:11 Creeper UGH
22:12 kahrl ismycomputeron.com is bugged
22:12 kahrl I shut all my computers off, sent a HTTP request over IPoAC, the response still said "YES"
22:15 Creeper thats because it is one of those, 'completely pontless sites'
22:15 jordan4ibanez Hi kahrl
22:15 kahrl hi jordan4ibanez
22:17 jordan4ibanez How goes it?
22:18 kahrl pretty well, hope you are fine too
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22:19 kahrl haven't had much free time lately unfortunately, not much minetest devving for me
22:20 Creeper irc mod help PLEASE
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22:21 kaeza hm?
22:21 kaeza Creeper, what's your issue?
22:21 Creeper init lua.... always
22:21 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix wrong replace from previous commit e479337 http://git.io/vkDBM (2015-06-02T00:20:12+02:00)
22:22 kaeza if you're trying to run it on Windows, I'll just say don't bother
22:22 Creeper GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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22:23 kaeza you only need it if you plan on hosting a server anyway
22:23 Creeper thats why i need it!!!
22:24 VanessaE laggity..
22:24 kaeza hey V
22:24 VanessaE hi
22:24 * Creeper getting mad.....
22:26 kahrl stay calm, don't explode
22:26 Creeper i need help fixingj!!!
22:26 crazyR hi all
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22:29 blaise Creeper: cat debug.txt |grep ERROR
22:29 blaise the lines that show up are what we need to know to help you fix
22:29 blaise comprende?
22:29 * Creeper is upsetnow
22:29 Yellowberry blaise, Creeper on Wandews
22:29 blaise fail
22:30 Creeper wut
22:31 blaise Creeper: what's your native language?
22:31 blaise because it's apparently not english.
22:31 Creeper lolcat, used in most memes
22:31 Yellowberry ha
22:31 blaise ah, so you're just a troll..
22:31 Creeper what
22:31 Creeper huh??
22:31 blaise tuche
22:32 sd1001 blaise: No need for that, you can just do `grep ERROR debug.txt`
22:32 blaise sd1001: yeah, but he runs windows anyway.. so there's no fixing anything
22:32 Creeper WUT
22:32 blaise it was broke before the machine even had minetest
22:33 blaise Creeper: you want help, we need the error to help you
22:33 blaise it's that simple
22:33 Yellowberry THE POWER OF LINUX COMPELS YOU
22:34 blaise there's no point in acting like a child.. and if you are a child, you need to get your parents to help you get help.. and you probably shouldn't be on the internet unsupervised anyway
22:34 Yellowberry heh
22:34 * Creeper is 30...
22:34 * blaise facepalms
22:34 blaise so, he is a troll
22:34 blaise moving on....
22:34 Creeper how am i a troll???
22:35 Yellowberry Learn to speak English properly.
22:35 blaise we told you to get the error from the debug.txt in the minetest directory.
22:35 Yellowberry Or speak in your native language
22:35 blaise without that we can't help you
22:35 Yellowberry And if your native language is English, I feel bad for you
22:36 Creeper derp...   debug isnt saving
22:36 blaise it's not like it saves it..
22:36 blaise it pipes the standard output from minetest.exe to that file
22:36 blaise there's no "alt-file, save" operation going on at all
22:36 Creeper then how do i find the error!
22:37 blaise so like, if you run cmd from the run prompt and cd to the minetest directory and run minetest.exe you will see the output we're talking about which is being sent to debut.txt
22:37 Yellowberry A few simple steps
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22:37 blaise it's not an option.. it does it by default..
22:37 Yellowberry 1. Speak properly
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22:37 Yellowberry 2. Look in the minetest folder for a file called debug.txt
22:37 blaise the only way to stop it is to put a setting in minetest.conf to NOT log to file
22:38 Creeper i think i heard you say that!
22:38 Yellowberry 3. Post the contents of it on pastebin
22:38 Creeper and debug has NOTHING
22:38 Yellowberry That is abnormal
22:38 blaise then you never ran minetest
22:38 Creeper i have minetest running right here!
22:38 blaise becuase even if you never start singleplayer or connect to a host it will log something
22:39 blaise it'll show the irrlich output, and a number of other things
22:39 Yellowberry Somebody message me when the trolls leave
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22:39 Creeper OH! found error
22:39 blaise Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1
22:39 blaise like that
22:41 kahrl it might not be saving if minetest wants to write debug.txt to a location where the current user doesn't have write permission
22:41 kahrl but idk, I don't use windows
22:43 Creeper no fikle irc.lua, no irc.dll, no field package.preload ['irc'] i think.... the slaches are backards? no file ...\mods\irc/irc/init.lua no fuke loadall.dll
22:43 Creeper no file! not fuke!
22:45 kahrl Creeper: copy & paste the message into a pastebin like paste.debian.net instead of typing it
22:45 Creeper i cant
22:45 kahrl ?
22:45 Creeper cant select whats in minetest engine
22:45 kaeza Creeper, did you follow the instructions in the README?
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22:45 kaeza but as I already said, it doesn't currently works under Windows
22:45 kaeza -s
22:46 kaeza hurr durr engrish
22:46 est31 dont use linux 4.0 :)
22:47 Creeper yes
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22:47 kaeza well, the error suggests you did not install luasocket
22:47 Creeper can you send me da link?
22:48 kaeza or rather, you didn't install LuaIRC
22:48 Creeper didnt install any
22:48 kaeza well read the README again
22:49 Creeper i have to have the program things???
22:49 blaise kaeza: hey, you know if there is a git repo for hunger ?
22:49 blaise I can't seem to find one
22:49 kaeza blaise, it's in default IIRC
22:50 kaeza oh wait, nope... that's drowning
22:51 blaise drowning?
22:51 kaeza blaise, try https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-survival_modpack
22:51 blaise ty
22:52 kaeza yw
22:59 jordan4ibanez I think it's time to rewrite the item entity
23:01 Yellowberry Is there a demand for python-based minetest modding?
23:01 est31 python is stinking
23:02 Yellowberry What, is /perl/ better?
23:03 kaeza bf pls
23:03 Yellowberry yes, totally
23:04 blaise kaeza: wow, uhrm
23:04 blaise kaeza: how do I drink and eat?!
23:04 blaise lmao
23:04 Yellowberry lol
23:04 kaeza blaise, should support some food-based mods, including default:apple
23:04 est31 minetest has lua
23:04 est31 everything one needs
23:05 kaeza for drinking, create a drinking glass and click water
23:06 kaeza if you have homedecor installed, you can also right-click the kitchen sink cabinet
23:07 blaise but, uhrm..
23:07 blaise lol
23:07 blaise I gotta have a furnace to make glass, and sand
23:07 blaise lol
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23:08 blaise I'm gonna die!
23:10 Yellowberry OH NO!
23:10 Yellowberry blaise is gonna die!
23:11 blaise lol
23:11 blaise I'll never find my stuff
23:11 blaise crap
23:11 blaise heheh
23:11 blaise I'll bbl
23:20 * Creeper will give people lots of gems if they help make housing on offline server
23:20 VanessaE what server?
23:21 Creeper what was supposed to be online... CreeperCity Testing Server
23:21 VanessaE oh
23:21 Creeper you can download my minetest and help build..
23:21 Creeper but i cant seem to put server online!
23:21 VanessaE well I've got about 9 servers running on my machine, so that's out :P
23:21 Creeper even though i followed the directions
23:24 Creeper idk why i cant put a single server up
23:25 VanessaE I never saw the error message, but you mentioned IRC.  did you install luasocket?
23:25 Creeper no, but ill try
23:25 Yellowberry they have Luasocket for Windows?
23:25 VanessaE you need that
23:25 Creeper mayby i can actually put it up for irc
23:25 VanessaE it'll be called luasocket51 or similar.
23:25 VanessaE no idea, Yellowberry
23:25 Yellowberry Well, Creeper is on Windows
23:26 Creeper yeah
23:27 VanessaE http://files.luaforge.net/releases/lu​asocket/luasocket/luasocket-2.0.2/lua​socket-2.0.2-lua-5.1.2-Win32-vc8.zip
23:27 VanessaE this appears to be the official release for luasocket51 windows
23:27 Creeper thanks, just got back to irc
23:27 VanessaE other links are here:  http://files.luaforge.net/r​eleases/luasocket/luasocket
23:29 Creeper now what
23:29 VanessaE ...install it?
23:29 Creeper did
23:30 VanessaE first thing you should have been doing is trying to run your server with no mods at all, then add a few, try again, repeat.
23:30 Creeper y?
23:31 VanessaE because that's the proper way to test something
23:31 VanessaE normally you don't just load it all up all at once
23:31 VanessaE it helps you spot problems in your setup
23:31 Creeper how do i make the irc mod work now......
23:31 VanessaE no.  start by getting the REST of your server running
23:32 Creeper what do you mean the rest?
23:32 VanessaE the other mods
23:32 VanessaE the basics of the servr
23:32 VanessaE ettc
23:32 VanessaE damn I can't type
23:32 Creeper all my other mods have init problems
23:33 VanessaE then start with NO mods
23:33 Creeper opk
23:33 VanessaE if the server refuses to run with a particular mod, remove it and try another mod.
23:35 Creeper i cant remove them.....
23:35 VanessaE yes you can.
23:35 Creeper unless you mean another remove
23:35 VanessaE I mean delete the mod from the "mods" or "worldmods" dir (but not from minetest_game/mods or whatever)
23:36 VanessaE move it to somewhere minetest can't find it.
23:36 Creeper ok.....
23:36 VanessaE point is to make sure minetest can't even TRY to load it
23:36 VanessaE you want to start out with a bare minetest_game and NO added mods.
23:37 Creeper my world is made of unknown nodes
23:37 VanessaE doesn't matter.
23:37 VanessaE you can restore the missing mods one at a time and the unknown nodes will become defined again
23:37 Creeper ok
23:38 Creeper i think this may take awhile
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23:41 Creeper dis taking forever
23:43 VanessaE welcome to the wonderful world of server hosting.
23:44 Yellowberry Aye.
23:44 Yellowberry all aboard the hype train
23:45 Yellowberry ppppppppppppppppppppppppppp​ppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
23:45 Yellowberry oops
23:45 Yellowberry sorry
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23:49 Creeper dobeee
23:51 Creeper hello?
23:51 VanessaE hi.
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23:51 Creeper done
23:52 VanessaE and?
23:52 Creeper irc still has problem
23:53 VanessaE and the problem is.......?
23:53 VanessaE we need a copy&paste of the errors from the debug window
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