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00:07 Xeprione hello?
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00:08 Xeprione hello Haudegen
00:08 Xeprione i literally just got here :D
00:15 Xeprione hello MinetestBot
00:15 MinetestBot Hey Xeprione
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01:16 AndroidKris mmmmm, ginger peach
01:18 AndroidKris anyone remember the craft recipe for a work table? or however it's called.
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01:32 AndroidKris circular saw, thats what i'm after.
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01:56 AndroidKris Which mod includes the circular saw by default? Cause I know I have a mod installed that does, just not sure which one and don't want to download the circular saw mod by itself
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02:24 FreeFull Ooh, minetest has connected glass now
02:27 AndroidKris been out of the loop a while FreeFull?
02:27 AndroidKris lol
02:29 FreeFull I didn't know =P
02:29 FreeFull AndroidKris: Moreblocks has the circular saw btw
02:29 FreeFull I found out through unifiedinventory
02:31 AndroidKris Thanks, I found it already. Saw it mentioned on homedecore mod website, then looked in the crafting.lua of moreblocks to find how to make it.lol
02:32 AndroidKris I always end up with the wrong set of stairs though, cause the tiny picture is hard to see, and a lot of the descriptions are the same.lol
02:44 FreeFull Seems connected glass only applies to glass blocks right now
02:50 AndroidKris got moreblocks installed?
02:50 AndroidKris I'm pretty sure there are a few other glass blocks it applies to...
02:51 AndroidKris I think it works for glass panels too
02:51 FreeFull I think I had to update it
02:52 FreeFull Let's try again
02:56 AndroidKris I'm in the process of converting all my downloaded mods to git sync (if available), so they stay up to date more easily.
02:56 FreeFull Oh, the pool table now has a cue and balls
02:56 AndroidKris lawl, it's got balls
02:57 FreeFull And all the signs I had on my chests turned sideways :/
02:57 VanessaE 16 of them to be exact :)
02:57 FreeFull Although the writing is in the same place, detached from the signs
02:57 FreeFull Weird
02:57 VanessaE FreeFull: use the screwdriver on the signs.  I announced that change ages ago.
02:57 FreeFull VanessaE: Ok
02:59 VanessaE (signs now have the same rotation behavior as the default one, makes it easier to add signs_lib to existing worlds that don't have it already)
02:59 FreeFull I accidentally used the screwdriver on a door >_<
03:00 FreeFull Closing it and opening fixed it though
03:00 VanessaE heh
03:00 VanessaE yeah, there's no way to tell the screwdriver that it can't rotate a node
03:00 FreeFull Streak free glass still doesn't seem to join together
03:00 VanessaE joined glass is a per-node thing.
03:01 FreeFull Glass panes too
03:01 VanessaE default glass has that setting, and some moreblocks objects do also
03:01 VanessaE (or did)
03:01 FreeFull Ok, glow glass does join together
03:01 VanessaE glass panes won't ever.
03:01 FreeFull I see
03:01 VanessaE (because joining nodes only works with whole cubes)
03:02 VanessaE (it's not specific to glass, you could make other kinds of materials do this too)
03:02 FreeFull My laptop in-game turned into a more realistic laptop without the toilet logo
03:02 FreeFull And chairs are no longer sittable
03:02 VanessaE that's because the laptop is a meshnode now
03:03 VanessaE sitting was disabled because it doesn't work correctly in some cases
03:03 VanessaE (and when it doesn't, it breaks kinda badly)
03:03 FreeFull Ok
03:04 FreeFull I should make obsidian glass
03:05 FreeFull Obsidian glass doesn't have the joining behaviour either
03:05 VanessaE odd, it should.
03:05 VanessaE unless moreblocks overrides it.
03:07 FreeFull Maybe I need to update my minetest a bit
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04:38 FreeFull Nope, obsidian glass isn't joining together
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04:58 AndroidKris yo
04:58 AndroidKris sup peeps
05:00 AndroidKris VanessaE, did you get Ops recently? Or do you just not ident with the bot often?
05:00 AndroidKris Because I swear I've never seen you at the top of the list before.
05:00 VanessaE I just don't usually op up, that's all
05:02 VanessaE had to fix an auto-ban (##fixyourconnection stuff)
05:03 AndroidKris As I suspected. Of course, I'm still what would be considered a newb here.
05:03 AndroidKris What's ##fixyourconnection?
05:05 VanessaE just a redirect that ShadowBot does when banning someone who keeps joining/parting repeatedly
05:05 AndroidKris Aha, nice
05:06 AndroidKris So with my shitty connection, If I get auto-banned without noticing, the next time I try to join here, I'll be directed to ##fixyourconnection ?
05:07 AndroidKris I'll have to immediately /msg you and get that fixed then.lol
05:08 VanessaE I'm not sure, but maybe :P
05:09 AndroidKris :D
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05:44 AndroidKris I can't seem to craft a bed, even though I know it's been merged into the main game.
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12:35 srifqi Anybody knows for what #minetest-delta is?
12:35 ElectronLibre It was an old fork. Now the channel is empty.
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12:52 srifqi ElectronLibre, old fork?
12:53 ElectronLibre I think it was. And old fork based on minetest 0.3.x if I remember correctly.
12:53 ElectronLibre This : https://github.com/erlehmann/minetest-delta
12:54 ElectronLibre Development of Minetest Δ has ceased on August 04, 2011. As every feature of Minetest Δ was merged upstream, it is now considered obsolete.
12:54 ElectronLibre ^ Quote from README.md
12:56 srifqi Okay, thanks
12:57 srifqi !wik Biomes
12:57 MinetestBot "According to Wikipedia, biomes are climatically and geographically defined as similar climatic conditions on the Earth, such as communities of plants, animals, and soil organisms, and are often referred to as ecosystems." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes
12:57 srifqi Deserts spawn underground rivers and lakes which can be over 200 blocks deep.
12:57 srifqi Are the text true?
13:01 ElectronLibre The wikipedia definition is true (as far as I know about weather and world climate).
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13:29 srifqi ElectronLibre, I mean about underground river at desert
13:29 Zeno` srifqi, what is your pending PR?
13:29 Zeno` oh, 2648
13:30 ElectronLibre It depends on mods you're using, and the mapgen engine you use, but I've already seen rivers in deserts very deep.
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13:37 MinetestBot [git] Etzos -> minetest/minetest: Fix player pitch and yaw not being set properly 400c608 http://git.io/vfMt6 (2015-04-26T23:36:05+10:00)
13:37 MinetestBot [git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: Remove fly mode in simple main menu 1c7c349 http://git.io/vfMti (2015-04-26T23:35:32+10:00)
13:42 MinetestBot [git] Warr1024 -> minetest/minetest: Fix fast leaves with texture_clean_transparent enabled. 1fb3d11 http://git.io/vfMq1 (2015-04-26T23:39:40+10:00)
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13:49 srifqi Zeno: yup! That's it. Thanks
13:50 Zeno` weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
13:56 srifqi sliding?
13:56 srifqi or jumping?
13:57 srifqi Zeno` ^
13:57 Zeno` both!
13:57 srifqi wow! Jumping+ Sliding!
13:57 Zeno` yup
13:57 srifqi Which of them is first?
14:01 Zeno` does [off] work with the channel log?
14:01 Zeno` I thought that was for the IRC mod only
14:02 srifqi Zeno` yes it does work here
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14:03 srifqi But you cannot do chat command with [off]
14:06 Krock srifqi, [off]how U underline?
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14:07 srifqi ~tell srifqi hi
14:07 srifqi Um...
14:07 ShadowBot srifqi: O.K.
14:07 srifqi Krock: idk
14:07 srifqi Like this?
14:08 srifqi umm
14:10 srifqi ~tell MinetestBot !g Minetest
14:10 ShadowBot srifqi: O.K.
14:11 srifqi Um...
14:12 jin_xi hm
14:12 srifqi jin_xi how did you that?
14:14 jin_xi %Uirssi color formats
14:14 jin_xi ops
14:15 jin_xi well previously i used ctrl-_
14:15 jin_xi liek this
14:15 srifqi Ctrl+_?
14:17 jin_xi 7,10 yes
14:17 ElectronLibre All those colours are a mess.
14:18 Krock test
14:18 Krock But please, on-topic again
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14:18 jin_xi 5,3no u
14:19 est31 ~topic
14:19 ShadowBot est31: Welcome to #minetest, the official Minetest channel | CLEAR your cookies if you can't log in to forum | Latest version: 0.4.12 (2015-02-18) | Responses may take a while, so be patient. | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
14:19 srifqi Just add [off] for oot text
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14:24 Krock 2nd and 3rd have no formatting.
14:24 srifqi ~topic
14:24 ShadowBot srifqi: Welcome to #minetest, the official Minetest channel | CLEAR your cookies if you can't log in to forum | Latest version: 0.4.12 (2015-02-18) | Responses may take a while, so be patient. | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
14:25 srifqi Krock: is it?
14:25 srifqi these:
14:25 Krock [on] yes
14:25 srifqi um...
14:25 Krock And now go into an other channel and don't test your IRC client's features hre
14:25 srifqi i think this feature is client-based
14:26 Krock Thanks.
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14:28 srifqi Krock, have you seen valley_mapgen?
14:35 Krock seen? yes.
14:39 srifqi have you tried it?
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15:17 MinetestBot [git] fishyWET -> minetest/minetest: Update chinese translation 45a77c8 http://git.io/vfMDg (2015-04-27T01:17:10+10:00)
15:19 Zeno` Wayward_One == Trouble Maker
15:19 Zeno` (LOL ... just kidding)
15:23 xenkey I don't get it
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15:24 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2653
15:25 est31 trouble maker != dude who points out there is trouble
15:25 Zeno` lol ;)
15:25 Zeno` Wayward_One will "get" my sense of humour
15:25 Zeno` err, well I hope he does
15:25 Zeno` he should... he's known me long enough!
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15:26 est31 2653 and 2045 are really the same thing, aren't they?
15:26 Zeno` cachegrind output would be better but I have a feeling that's what he's going to provide anyway
15:27 Zeno` est31, it's hard to tell
15:28 Zeno` since cmake changed and does not build minetestserver anymore (!!!!!!!!!!!) all my test scripts have been, well, not up to date :(
15:28 Zeno` I've been testing on and old version of minetestserver binary and didn't realise until today :/
15:28 est31 its still building for me
15:28 est31 at least it shows that in the log
15:28 Zeno` it's not for me
15:28 Zeno` not with the default flags anyway
15:29 Zeno` only minetest is created now
15:29 est31 may be thats the cause
15:29 Zeno` it'd be nice to know this shit :)
15:30 Zeno` so people don't spend hours and hours getting valgrind data for an out of date build heh
15:30 Zeno` </rant>
15:30 est31 The only flag that should have an effect is -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
15:31 Zeno` yes, well... that's what I always build with (when doing dev)
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15:31 est31 These are my other flags: -DENABLE_SYSTEM_GMP=1 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
15:31 Zeno` I only build Release on my VPS really (and when I am doing cachegrind)
15:32 Zeno` Wayward_One, I said cachegrind before... I meant massig
15:32 Zeno` massif*
15:32 Krock the system GMP might be interesting on windows :3
15:33 Zeno` gmp would have to work on windows... otherwise it cannot be merged
15:33 Zeno` dunno about "SYSTEM_GMP" though...
15:33 CWz hey Zeno`
15:33 Zeno` ho CWz
15:33 est31 I can only confirm that its building
15:33 est31 Krock, you could test it for windows
15:34 Krock est31, I had the same idea just 30s ago
15:34 xenkey i had it 31s ago
15:35 est31 great!
15:35 Krock xenkey, the system_gmp?
15:35 xenkey Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 1
15:36 est31 Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 2
15:36 xenkey Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 3
15:36 xenkey Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 6
15:37 Calinou Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 1.618
15:37 xenkey You're doing it wrong
15:37 xenkey Dunno I see a number, copy the same line but increment it by 3.something
15:40 Krock est31, I got a wtf error. "Unknown line type was found in line 5352".. I can't apply that patch
15:41 xenkey this has the same letters as shit and sometimes i type the wrong one
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15:49 Krock nvm, worked
15:51 Krock est est est. Est is est.
15:51 est lol
15:53 est applying worked, or you could also log in and so on?
15:53 ElectronLibre It's perturbing because "est" in french means "is". So you just said something using the same words to me.
15:53 est yea
15:53 est I think spanish has that word too
15:54 Krock est, src\network\clientpackethandler.cpp(58 and 273): error C2440: '<function-style-cast>': 'irr::u32' can not be converted to 'std::bitset<_Bits>'
15:54 est https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/est
15:54 ElectronLibre Indeed. It's the third person as in french.
15:54 ElectronLibre And it's also the direction (North -> Nord, South -> Sud, West -> Ouest, East -> Est).
15:55 Krock I think 32 bits could work
15:55 est ?
15:56 est ah that bitset thingy
15:56 est I'll remove it
15:56 est its just for logging, and not really needed
15:56 est just letting computers do the thinking
16:00 est Krock, try it now again
16:04 Krock est, sorry forgot to report. the 273 line was in serverpackethandler.cpp
16:05 Krock bitset is used there too
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16:07 est ok try again
16:07 est Krock, ^
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16:28 Krock est, add "set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE "/MT")" on top of gmp\CMakeLists.txt, this solves my link errors
16:29 est wut?
16:29 est why that?
16:29 Krock I get library conflicts without the /MT param
16:30 est what is "/MT"?
16:30 est first, which compiler do you use?
16:30 Krock MSVC 2010
16:30 Krock https://msdn.microsoft.com/​en-us/library/2kzt1wy3.aspx
16:31 Krock "Causes the application to use the multithread, static version of the run-time library."
16:31 Krock Same problem exists with json, solved it by changing the CXX flags
16:32 est but it isn't in json/CMakeLists.txt
16:32 Krock now it is.. I added it :P
16:32 Krock at least on my machine
16:34 Krock 554 characters for a 6 character long password. yay!
16:34 Krock sounds secure
16:35 YvesLevier Having a strange problem...
16:35 est the character number is constant.
16:35 Krock upside-down nodes?
16:37 Krock omg, the .exe grew by 60 KB!
16:37 YvesLevier My clients dont have the same textures when i start using ./Minetest/bin/minetest instead of minecraftserver
16:37 Krock >minecraft
16:39 YvesLevier I mean it works well when im Server+Client but not if i start the server itself
16:40 YvesLevier brb i look if i have several .minetest on my comp
16:41 est Krock, it works?
16:41 VanessaE good morning.
16:41 Krock est, dunno how to verify. I was able to connect and a hash was produced in the auth.txt after starting a serve in the GUI
16:41 Krock *server
16:42 YvesLevier Greetings VanessaE :)
16:42 est ok, thats already very nice
16:42 est perhaps you can try changing passwords?
16:43 YvesLevier Having a .minetest on my desktop and another in home
16:44 est YvesLevier, there is your reason
16:44 YvesLevier est: Then?
16:44 YvesLevier i have to get rid of one of them?
16:44 est no
16:45 YvesLevier Listening
16:45 est YvesLevier, when you run "minetestserver", it uses the one inside your home
16:45 est when you run ./Minetest/bin/minetest its using the one in .Minetest
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16:46 Krock est, I can't reconnect. 2015-04-26 18:45:52: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Your client sent something the server didn'
16:46 Krock t expect.  Try reconnecting or updating your client
16:47 est Krock can you try verbose logging
16:47 est ?
16:47 est and paste it?
16:47 est to a pastebin
16:48 YvesLevier est: Well but this is .minetest (not home) that works well.  How if i copy .minetest over home .minetest
16:48 YvesLevier ?
16:48 Krock ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: User Krock tried to log in, SRP-6a safety check violated in _A handler.
16:48 est Krock, I need the full log
16:48 est verbose
16:49 Krock http://pastebin.com/He6tTnZN
16:49 est YvesLevier, yes thats sounds good
16:49 YvesLevier est: will backup then try - thx :)
16:53 est Krock, is the password you use secret, or is it only a test password?
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17:06 Krock est, it's empty.
17:07 Krock I edited the auth and removed the password
17:07 Krock just to see if it works with "nothing"
17:07 est it should
17:08 Krock doesn't matter where, everytime I connect again after leaving the world, it throws this error
17:10 * est tries it too with an empty password
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17:26 YvesLevier est: Thx it works :)
17:26 Krock est, does the problem also exist on your side?
17:26 est yes Krock
17:27 Krock and that for "yes, it's tested" :P
17:28 est Krock, the problem also exists for me
17:28 est yea :/
17:28 est "tested" as in "it works for me"
17:28 est thanks for helping
17:28 Krock np
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17:39 Totoro_ Hi there!
17:39 Krock Hello!
17:45 Totoro_ minetest.net seems a bit.. deserted. Is the game still in development?
17:45 YvesLevier Is that possible that we cant sleep in VanessaE beds?
17:46 Calinou yes, it is still actively developed Totoro_
17:46 Calinou we should remake minetest.net with Bootstrap :D
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17:47 YvesLevier VanessaE: ^
17:48 YvesLevier If so, how to get a normal bed plz?
17:49 ElectronLibre Minetest Game's bed mod has some you can sleep on.
17:50 YvesLevier ElectronLibre: Merci (thx)
17:50 ElectronLibre Don't feel forced to speak french to me ^^
17:52 est wow forecast.io is cool
17:53 est just no idea how they want to make money
17:53 VanessaE YvesLevier: kilbith *just* added a change to fix that
17:53 VanessaE try updating and try again.
17:54 YvesLevier VanessaE: looking at this
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17:54 YvesLevier VanessaE: do i have to make something before to try it?
17:54 est their privacy guide is very... lets say wrong http://forecast.io/privacy.html
17:54 est "Forecast uses Google Analytics to collect usage statistics. These statistics are anonymous, and no personally identifying information is transmitted to either Google or to ourselves. "
17:55 VanessaE YvesLevier: nope.  just update homedecor.
17:56 YvesLevier VanessaE: k thx
17:56 est ah I see now, they demand money for their API
17:57 est Every API call after that costs $0.0001 each.
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17:59 est sounds fair
18:00 Calinou lol
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18:27 YvesLevier est: Seems i got the same problem than earlier
18:28 YvesLevier When i use server tab to enable new VanessaE beds, it woks good.  But using my server (home) with a client.  Beds didnt change.
18:29 YvesLevier Something i really didnt understand i fear.
18:30 YvesLevier Do i have to copy mods from home to ./Minetest/bin/minetest?
18:30 YvesLevier i mean keep the same in both folders?
18:30 est yes, and the same configuration, for the mods
18:31 est (you need to enable them there too)
18:31 est do you use the option (world.mt) method or the worldmods method?
18:31 YvesLevier est: i keep 2 copies of .minetest then.  Right?
18:31 YvesLevier and get them following each other
18:31 YvesLevier is that it?
18:32 est YvesLevier, either that, or symbolic linking
18:33 YvesLevier est: change .Minetest for a link to home .minetest?
18:33 YvesLevier is that what you mean?
18:34 YvesLevier I fear i installed my minetest wrongly
18:35 est yes
18:35 est not link though but symlink
18:36 YvesLevier est: i dont know symlink feature
18:37 YvesLevier People at home yelling on me cauz im not eating with them.  Sry  will read back in few mins.
18:37 est you should
18:37 est its very cool
18:38 est take your time
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18:59 Totoro_ How can I download the Ethereal 1.16 mod?
19:00 Totoro_ Forum topic (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7656) contains only 0.1.0 version.
19:05 est Totoro_, try this: https://github.com/tenplus1/​ethereal/archive/master.zip
19:05 est its the most recent version of tenplus1
19:05 Totoro_ Thanks!
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19:09 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Tests: Modularize unit testing 7220ca9 http://git.io/vfDbE (2015-04-26T15:08:54-04:00)
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19:28 YvesLevier est: Im back.  Still free?
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19:29 est read up on symlinks
19:30 est they are a very good feature of linux world
19:30 est s/linux/unix/
19:31 YvesLevier est: on it.  But was it better if i reinstall the whole?
19:31 YvesLevier reading anyway
19:32 est you dont have to reinstall
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19:35 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Remove craftdef serialisation 27e3a35 http://git.io/vfDhA (2015-04-26T21:30:52+02:00)
19:35 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Craftdef refactor 4f851fa http://git.io/vfDhx (2015-04-26T21:28:40+02:00)
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19:42 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Update .gitignore 068d561 http://git.io/vfyeu (2015-04-26T15:40:19-04:00)
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20:03 sofar VanessaE: can mesh nodes be animated?
20:04 sofar or have animated textures?
20:04 ElectronLibre sofar, no.
20:04 ElectronLibre Mesh nodes can't be animated.
20:04 sofar can they have animated textures though?
20:04 sofar like torches?
20:05 YvesLevier est: "./Minetest/bin/minetest/ point to a compiled file, since minetestserver point to usr/games compiled file
20:05 YvesLevier i cant see what to "cp -s what to where"
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20:06 est YvesLevier, best is if you make both directories contain the same things
20:06 est so link the whole ./Minetest to .minetest
20:08 YvesLevier est: backuping again then will
20:08 est yes
20:14 VanessaE sofar: animated textures work fine on meshes,
20:14 VanessaE do it the same way as with any other node
20:14 sofar cool
20:14 VanessaE but you can't have an animated mesh - only entities can do that, for now.
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20:16 VanessaE sofar: one important thing:  use multiple materials in your model, so that you can assign your animated texture to just the parts that need it.
20:16 sofar sure
20:18 YvesLevier est: Then end command shall look like "cp -s Bureau/Minetest .minetest" ?
20:19 YvesLevier Bureau is for desktop
20:20 est rather do ln -s .minetest Bureau/Minetest
20:20 YvesLevier thx
20:20 est if .minetest contains the "real" data
20:20 YvesLevier both are the same now!
20:20 est or if you are not in the home directory right now you will need to add ~/
20:20 est to the beginning
20:21 YvesLevier understood
20:21 YvesLevier Then i make mod changes and all to .minetest in future
20:21 YvesLevier Is that what you mean?
20:22 est yes in future both directories are automatically synced
20:22 est thats what symlinks are about
20:23 YvesLevier anyway i have backups for both - proceeding
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20:29 AndroidKris How to harvest wool from sheep?
20:29 est right click them
20:29 AndroidKris bare fist?
20:30 est yes
20:30 jin_xi we need clippy
20:30 est ?
20:30 est !g clippy mojang
20:30 MinetestBot est: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWpf6FnXCGE
20:31 AndroidKris doesn't work, brings up menu with two buttons "show debug info" and "nothing to heal"
20:31 est http://qubetubers.com/wp-content/upload​s/2014/09/1639e33b79ecde263b84e8129a066​c8a-clippy-recreated-in-minecraft.jpg
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20:33 AndroidKris craft sheers maybe?
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20:35 YvesLevier est: Looks perfect.  Now that means i can make changes to server options using ./Minetest/bin/minetest and minetestserver will follow
20:35 YvesLevier Thats it?
20:35 est yes
20:35 YvesLevier est: SMAK :)
20:35 YvesLevier thx
20:41 YvesLevier VanessaE: Signs had changed orientation and now text are written on inodes that were under them.  Is that included in your last mod or im facing a bug?
20:42 YvesLevier Trying to make a new one brb
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20:48 YvesLevier VanessaE: New signs dont do that (sad... that was nice)  Making some tests brb
21:04 YvesLevier That makes the same on other computer (client on my server) - np i can replace all of them easily
21:06 YvesLevier est: VanessaE: But that gives me the idea of transparent signs with a bigger font ;)
21:07 est Minetest clearly needs a better update migration mechanism
21:08 sfan5 why?
21:08 est like above
21:08 est changing other things too
21:09 est hmmmm wants to change order of mapblocks
21:09 est and so on
21:09 est if we want to drop support for old things, we need that mechanism
21:10 est and dropping support is better than getting fatter and fatter and maintaining backwards compat till the first commit of minetest
21:10 est </my opinion>
21:15 AndroidKris And I'm sitting here going, (how do i harvest wool? I need a bed)
21:16 AndroidKris You smart people and your smart talk
21:16 ElectronLibre Get some string.
21:16 AndroidKris from cotton or jungle grass. Of which I have neither
21:16 ElectronLibre To do so, find some cotton seeds, by digging jungle grass. It will drop some randomly.
21:16 ElectronLibre Ok, so... /give.
21:19 AndroidKris Trying not to cheat.lol
21:19 AndroidKris Got sheep though.
21:22 FreeFull Minecraft is capable of taking an old world and updating it (irreversibly)
21:22 FreeFull That sort of forward migration would be nice to have
21:23 FreeFull AndroidKris: If you have sheep, there is some way of getting wool from them
21:23 FreeFull I don't remember the exact method
21:23 FreeFull I don't think punching them does it anymore (without killing the sheep)
21:23 AndroidKris Yeah, I've been googling for a while and found nothing.
21:23 FreeFull There might be shears now
21:24 ElectronLibre If you have sheeps, then craft shears and right-click them.
21:25 est the issue is that the answer of this question depends on the mod used
21:26 AndroidKris ^^I'm thinking est has a good point. I'm using the animals mod from this link (one sec)
21:27 AndroidKris https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629
21:28 AndroidKris I have like fifteen mods installed right now, though not all are active on this world. I have homedecor, moreores, moreblocks, and animals.
21:28 AndroidKris Oh, and cottages.
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