Time Nick Message 01:00 AndroidKris So I just played through Final Fantasy IX...again.lol. 04:00 cheapie AndroidKris: Hi. 04:01 AndroidKris sup 04:01 * cheapie shrugs and wanders back over to ##linux 04:01 AndroidKris Hey, you got (or anyone for that matter) minetest mapper in c++ installed? 04:01 AndroidKris cheapie 04:02 cheapie I've never played with any mappers. 04:02 cheapie VanessaE might be a good person to ask about that. 04:02 AndroidKris I can't get it to compile. 04:02 AndroidKris I've got the git clone. 04:02 cheapie What's the error? 04:02 AndroidKris and the [cmake .] command does it's job. 04:04 AndroidKris but [make] keeps spitting out http://pastebin.com/2h3VZbFM 04:04 AndroidKris not the website...lol, the paste that I uploaded. 04:04 cheapie What distro? 04:04 AndroidKris haha, made myself lawl 04:04 AndroidKris xubuntu 04:04 AndroidKris 14.04 04:04 cheapie OK, just a second... 04:04 AndroidKris yup 04:05 VanessaE apt-get install libgd-dev 04:05 cheapie Bah, ninja'd. 04:05 cheapie (seriously, I had just looked that up) 04:05 VanessaE and if that fails, libgd2-noxpm-dev 04:06 AndroidKris gorsh yous guys are quick 04:06 cheapie http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gdfontmb.h&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any 04:07 AndroidKris 13 packages come with libgd-dev? 04:07 AndroidKris wtf? 04:07 VanessaE dependencies are fun aren't they? :) 04:08 VanessaE most are probably -dev packages though, and probably won't add up to a few megs 04:08 AndroidKris meh, at least it tells you what you're installing and it ONLY installs what is ABSOLUTELY needed... 04:08 cheapie AndroidKris: Try kde-plasma-desktop if you want to see some serious dependencies. 04:08 AndroidKris unlike winblows 04:08 AndroidKris I'd rather not mix kde with my clean xfce install...thank you very much 04:08 AndroidKris I dislike kde 04:09 AndroidKris lol 04:09 cheapie apt-get autoremove is the best part of the whole dependencies thing. 04:09 VanessaE xfce ftw :) 04:09 AndroidKris indeed^^ 04:09 VanessaE cheapie: that can sometimes break stuff though 04:09 cheapie VanessaE: I haven't seen that yet. 04:09 AndroidKris It has broken a few things for me in the past, but then I just installed synaptic package manager... 04:09 VanessaE had it happen once. smashed my video driver or some component it needed anyway 04:09 cheapie (although I do read the list before it removes anything) 04:09 AndroidKris no more breaky breaky with autoremove actions 04:10 VanessaE heh 04:11 AndroidKris minetest mapper successfully built... 04:11 AndroidKris After three days of dealing with shitty internet, and figuring out dependancies. 04:11 AndroidKris dependencies* 04:11 VanessaE \o/ 04:11 VanessaE now the FUN part: 04:11 VanessaE using it. 04:12 AndroidKris yeah, I was just getting to that.... 04:12 AndroidKris How 04:12 AndroidKris ??? 04:12 AndroidKris grrrr....the period on my keyboard is sticky, brb gonna clean it kids must have spilled something on it. 04:13 VanessaE ./minetestmapper --drawscale --drawalpha --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 -i -o 04:13 VanessaE ^^^^^^^^ that's how I run it 04:13 VanessaE (from a script) 04:14 VanessaE the geometry argument, if I understand it right, is :++ 04:14 VanessaE e.g. -50:-50+100+100 to make a map 100x100 in size, with 0,0 at the center. 04:16 est31 the geometry argument is one of the bad design choices 04:17 est31 its just lots of complexity 04:17 VanessaE perhaps 04:18 est31 https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp/blob/master/doc/manual.rst#geometry-syntax 04:18 cheapie Heh, it's sort of funny how so many distros know what to do with a SID file right out of the "box". 04:19 est31 what is sid? 04:19 est31 (except of a debian name) 04:19 VanessaE est31: chipmusic for the C64 04:19 cheapie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_SID 04:19 est31 interesting 04:20 est31 seems it is in "the great file(1) list". 04:20 VanessaE files containing music meant to be played on that ^^^^ device are themselves often called "SIDs" 04:21 VanessaE est31: btw, that manual page is for the current minetest mapper?? I had no idea it had so many options 04:21 est31 VanessaE, its only rogier's mod 04:21 est31 not the official one 04:21 VanessaE ahhh 04:21 cheapie Then there's also things such as the ability to install a copy of the OS *from* a running copy of itself onto a flash drive plugged into another computer... 04:22 cheapie Windows seems so inflexible by comparison. 04:22 AndroidKris is the geometry even needed? 04:23 VanessaE AndroidKris: not on smaller worlds 04:23 VanessaE but as your world is explored more, eventually you will want to limit it. 04:23 AndroidKris So the "size" of your world is based on the amount that's been explored? 04:23 VanessaE yep 04:23 AndroidKris Is it Infinite? 04:24 VanessaE no, not infinite 04:24 AndroidKris how big max? 04:24 VanessaE up to ~62km in each dimension 04:24 VanessaE (31k from the origin each direction that is) 04:24 AndroidKris 1km = how many node spaces? 04:24 VanessaE 1000 :) 04:24 AndroidKris jeeeee----sus 04:25 AndroidKris 62000 node across? 04:25 VanessaE so an image could in theory reach ~62000 x 62000 pixels 04:25 VanessaE uh huh 04:25 VanessaE but est31 has a better way to handle huge maps 04:26 est31 https://github.com/est31/leaftest 04:26 est31 try it here: http://alket.mooo.com/map 04:26 AndroidKris at the average of 72 ppi, thats....(calculator)...just over 860in. x 860in. 04:26 AndroidKris gawd 04:26 VanessaE uh huh :) 04:27 AndroidKris I've seen some large maps in my few years in the military...but nothing like that. 04:27 AndroidKris jebus 04:31 AndroidKris generating first map now. Without geometry arguments. just ./minetest_mapper -i blah -o blah.png 04:31 AndroidKris lol 04:32 VanessaE wont' look as good without --drawalpha :) 04:32 AndroidKris Spit out a list of unknown nodes. 04:32 VanessaE that's normal, unknowns are listed only according to what's in your colors.txt 04:33 VanessaE use this ginormous one, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt 04:33 AndroidKris just copy paste? 04:33 AndroidKris replacing the old 04:33 VanessaE yep 04:33 AndroidKris word 04:33 VanessaE or, 04:34 VanessaE you can apparently point to it in the command line? 04:34 VanessaE hm, nope, not in the standard version of the mapper. 04:34 VanessaE anyway yeah just overwrite the stock one. 04:35 AndroidKris overwrote already 04:35 AndroidKris lol 04:35 AndroidKris running again, with new colors.txt, and --drawalpha 04:36 AndroidKris ./minetest_mapper: unrecognized option '--drawalpha' 04:36 AndroidKris Aborted (core dumped) 04:37 VanessaE interesting. works on the copy I'm using 04:37 AndroidKris https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp 04:38 AndroidKris That copy^^^^??? 04:38 VanessaE nononono use the official one, https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper 04:38 AndroidKris grrrr....gotta start over? 04:38 AndroidKris grrrrrr.... 04:38 VanessaE mireq's version is old :) 04:38 AndroidKris so I'll just delete everything in that folder and do another git sync right? 04:39 VanessaE git clone to a new directory imho 04:39 VanessaE git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper.git minetestmapper-official 04:39 VanessaE or so. 04:39 AndroidKris meh, I'd rather not have two copies 04:40 AndroidKris Esp. if one is obsolete 04:40 AndroidKris I may have 1Tb of hd space, but I'm not Trying to fill it up. 04:41 est31 rm -r * only removes stuff thats not hidden 04:41 est31 rm -r directory however removes everything 04:41 est31 (youll need rf for git) 04:42 AndroidKris or, right click, click remove 04:42 AndroidKris :D 04:42 est31 or that 04:42 VanessaE that works too 04:42 AndroidKris after ctrl+h of course, so I can see the hidden files and make sure they go bye bye as well 04:43 AndroidKris after git clone, it's just cmake . then make right? 04:43 AndroidKris cd into the folder 04:43 AndroidKris first 04:43 VanessaE same method to build it as before. should be the same deps also 04:44 AndroidKris heh, I shouldn't have to fight with dependencies this time though. They should all be there.lol 04:51 AndroidKris --drawalpha still doesn't work. 04:51 AndroidKris segmentation fault 04:51 VanessaE wat 04:53 AndroidKris I'm running [./minetestmapper --drawalpha -i ~/.minetest/worlds/WaterHome/ -o ~/.minetest/maps/WaterHome.png] 04:53 AndroidKris Works without --drawalpha though. 04:53 VanessaE that's just weird. 04:54 AndroidKris yup 04:55 AndroidKris The actual output is "Segmentation fault (Core Dumped)" 04:56 VanessaE I got nuthin' 04:56 VanessaE :P 04:56 AndroidKris Well what good are ya then? 04:56 AndroidKris :D 04:56 VanessaE heh 05:00 AndroidKris You say yours works fine? 05:02 AndroidKris VanessaE, is yours up to date? 05:02 VanessaE mine is not. 05:02 VanessaE I'm at commit bca8d3ce0 05:03 AndroidKris Maybe it broke something in an update? 05:03 VanessaE possible 05:04 AndroidKris I really need to get a git account... and pastebin as well.lol 05:04 AndroidKris ^^random thought. 05:05 AndroidKris Could you, if I asked real nice like, would you update and check? If it's a bug, it should be reported. 05:05 AndroidKris lol 05:05 VanessaE no :) 05:05 VanessaE too tired right now 05:07 AndroidKris Understandable. When you get around to it then. 05:09 AndroidKris However, I do see this from almost a year ago. https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/issues/5 05:09 AndroidKris hehe. gonna read up on backtracing and see if the issues are related. 05:10 AndroidKris Or at least try to copy your steps in producing that info about the segfault. Maybe I can make heads or tails of it. 05:11 VanessaE good idea 05:11 VanessaE also try rolling back to bca8d3ce0 and recompiling 05:11 VanessaE if it works, git bisect it between there and HEAD and report the crash 05:14 AndroidKris I just watched that last bit fly over my head like a 757. 05:14 AndroidKris rolling back, got it. can do. 05:14 AndroidKris git bisect? HEAD? 05:15 AndroidKris dafuq? 05:15 VanessaE if it works, you just type 'git bisect start' and hit enter 05:15 AndroidKris lots of reading...skip that...taking notes. 05:15 AndroidKris Saving for later 05:15 VanessaE it'll spit out some status info 05:15 VanessaE just cmake/make/run it. 05:15 VanessaE if it still works, type "git bisect good' 05:16 VanessaE if it fails, type "git bisect bad" 05:16 VanessaE in either case, repeat the cmake/make/run attempt 05:16 VanessaE loop until it spits out a message telling you where the bad commit was. 05:17 VanessaE (I think the ends of the bisect default to your current commit and the HEAD of repo) 05:17 VanessaE 'man git bisect' for more details :) 05:17 AndroidKris Saving this irc log for reference tomorrow...or this weekend. 05:18 AndroidKris It's quarter after 0100 and i gotta be up in five hours. 05:18 VanessaE once it gives you the message about "such and such is the first bad commit", file a bug report. copy&paste that bisect message, and see if you can get a gdb backtrace also like you saw in #5 05:18 AndroidKris That's at least an hours work...If it goes smoothly. 05:18 VanessaE nah, it's quicker than that usually 05:19 AndroidKris Not for me...after 1am...and having never done it before. 05:19 AndroidKris << not to familiar with git 05:19 VanessaE heh 05:19 AndroidKris lol 05:19 AndroidKris I'll get it done this weekend though. 05:19 AndroidKris Depending on the kids schedules 05:24 AndroidKris And on that note, I'm going to bed....GOODNIGHT FREE...NODE?!? 05:24 VanessaE think I'll do the same 05:24 VanessaE night :) 05:25 AndroidKris Peace. 05:44 Nappi @oldCoder: http://minetest.org/minetest-win32-150423.zip works great :) no problems so far 05:45 OldCoder Nappi, thank you 05:45 OldCoder I will post a 64-bit version soon 05:46 OldCoder And update the extra _game in both 05:46 Nappi I like some of the little things you held on to that have been removed from current DEV version 05:47 Nappi like the main menu closing on double-click 05:49 Nappi It runs Paramat's dev-biome mod fairly quick too. thanks for sharing it 08:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Teach Your Children to Save Day! :-D 11:42 ron_montilla why people that makes mods don't put the folder already with the right name on the zip? 13:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove unused variable Client::m_active_blocks 13ab04b7f http://git.io/vf2XJ (152015-04-24T15:41:45+02:00) 17:15 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11955 17:15 Calinou come on, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory had that animation 10 years before us 17:17 sfan5 k 17:17 sfan5 apparently any salute is a nazi salute 17:17 Krock "You are not authorised to read this forum." 17:17 sfan5 sec 17:18 VanessaE I moved it to offtopic. 17:18 sfan5 Krock: http://i.imgur.com/ifFPaW8.png 17:18 est31 btw if a forum admin has time, could they give me "developer" attribute? 17:19 sfan5 VanessaE: belongs to trash imo 17:19 est31 ^ 17:19 VanessaE sfan5: fine by me 17:19 VanessaE (I wasn't entirely sure) 17:20 Krock sfan5, you've got a tall screen there. 17:21 sfan5 Krock: nope, just https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/full-page-screen-capture/fdpohaocaechififmbbbbbknoalclacl 17:21 Krock oh, what a nice addon :D 17:22 est31 There is also http://phantomjs.org/screen-capture.html 17:22 est31 (but wont work with login) 17:22 sfan5 it will 17:23 sfan5 you just need to give it the cookies 17:23 sfan5 but thats too much work 17:25 bus_error_10_2 what do the numbers after group names in lua mods mean 17:25 bus_error_10_2 for example, in nodes.lua "groups = {cracky=3, stone=1}" 17:26 est31 bus_error_10_2, the numbers stand for how long tools take to break something 17:27 bus_error_10_2 ok, that makes sense :) 17:27 est31 tools can specify how long they "dig" for a specified combination of group and number 17:27 bus_error_10_2 ... and you just answered my other question too 17:27 bus_error_10_2 thanks :) 17:35 Calinou gotta love media queries 18:29 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: German translation: shorter setting name 13e376441 http://git.io/vfVbc (152015-04-24T20:25:33+02:00) 20:31 Calinou finished uploading 20:31 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11956 20:34 Calinou so much spam \o/ http://lbf.haoluobo.com/forum/python/ 20:34 Calinou who said the Minetest forums were too spammed? ;) 23:18 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-oldcoder-win32.zip 23:18 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-oldcoder-win64.zip 23:18 OldCoder 32-bit and 64-bit Minetests for Windows. Kindly test either. The 64-bit one in particular needs testing. 23:18 OldCoder