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AndroidKris |
So I just played through Final Fantasy IX...again.lol. |
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cheapie |
AndroidKris: Hi. |
| 04:01 |
AndroidKris |
sup |
| 04:01 |
* cheapie |
shrugs and wanders back over to ##linux |
| 04:01 |
AndroidKris |
Hey, you got (or anyone for that matter) minetest mapper in c++ installed? |
| 04:01 |
AndroidKris |
cheapie |
| 04:02 |
cheapie |
I've never played with any mappers. |
| 04:02 |
cheapie |
VanessaE might be a good person to ask about that. |
| 04:02 |
AndroidKris |
I can't get it to compile. |
| 04:02 |
AndroidKris |
I've got the git clone. |
| 04:02 |
cheapie |
What's the error? |
| 04:02 |
AndroidKris |
and the [cmake .] command does it's job. |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
but [make] keeps spitting out http://pastebin.com/2h3VZbFM |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
not the website...lol, the paste that I uploaded. |
| 04:04 |
cheapie |
What distro? |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
haha, made myself lawl |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
xubuntu |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
14.04 |
| 04:04 |
cheapie |
OK, just a second... |
| 04:04 |
AndroidKris |
yup |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
apt-get install libgd-dev |
| 04:05 |
cheapie |
Bah, ninja'd. |
| 04:05 |
cheapie |
(seriously, I had just looked that up) |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
and if that fails, libgd2-noxpm-dev |
| 04:06 |
AndroidKris |
gorsh yous guys are quick |
| 04:06 |
cheapie |
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gdfontmb.h&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any |
| 04:07 |
AndroidKris |
13 packages come with libgd-dev? |
| 04:07 |
AndroidKris |
wtf? |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
dependencies are fun aren't they? :) |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
most are probably -dev packages though, and probably won't add up to a few megs |
| 04:08 |
AndroidKris |
meh, at least it tells you what you're installing and it ONLY installs what is ABSOLUTELY needed... |
| 04:08 |
cheapie |
AndroidKris: Try kde-plasma-desktop if you want to see some serious dependencies. |
| 04:08 |
AndroidKris |
unlike winblows |
| 04:08 |
AndroidKris |
I'd rather not mix kde with my clean xfce install...thank you very much |
| 04:08 |
AndroidKris |
I dislike kde |
| 04:09 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
| 04:09 |
cheapie |
apt-get autoremove is the best part of the whole dependencies thing. |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
xfce ftw :) |
| 04:09 |
AndroidKris |
indeed^^ |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
cheapie: that can sometimes break stuff though |
| 04:09 |
cheapie |
VanessaE: I haven't seen that yet. |
| 04:09 |
AndroidKris |
It has broken a few things for me in the past, but then I just installed synaptic package manager... |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
had it happen once. smashed my video driver or some component it needed anyway |
| 04:09 |
cheapie |
(although I do read the list before it removes anything) |
| 04:09 |
AndroidKris |
no more breaky breaky with autoremove actions |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 04:11 |
AndroidKris |
minetest mapper successfully built... |
| 04:11 |
AndroidKris |
After three days of dealing with shitty internet, and figuring out dependancies. |
| 04:11 |
AndroidKris |
dependencies* |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
now the FUN part: |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
using it. |
| 04:12 |
AndroidKris |
yeah, I was just getting to that.... |
| 04:12 |
AndroidKris |
How |
| 04:12 |
AndroidKris |
??? |
| 04:12 |
AndroidKris |
grrrr....the period on my keyboard is sticky, brb gonna clean it kids must have spilled something on it. |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
./minetestmapper --drawscale --drawalpha --geometry -5000:-7500+12000+15000 -i <path to world to read from> -o <path+filename of output PNG image> |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
^^^^^^^^ that's how I run it |
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VanessaE |
(from a script) |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
the geometry argument, if I understand it right, is <horizoffset>:<vertoffset>+<width>+<height> |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
e.g. -50:-50+100+100 to make a map 100x100 in size, with 0,0 at the center. |
| 04:16 |
est31 |
the geometry argument is one of the bad design choices |
| 04:17 |
est31 |
its just lots of complexity |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
perhaps |
| 04:18 |
est31 |
https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp/blob/master/doc/manual.rst#geometry-syntax |
| 04:18 |
cheapie |
Heh, it's sort of funny how so many distros know what to do with a SID file right out of the "box". |
| 04:19 |
est31 |
what is sid? |
| 04:19 |
est31 |
(except of a debian name) |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
est31: chipmusic for the C64 |
| 04:19 |
cheapie |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_SID |
| 04:19 |
est31 |
interesting |
| 04:20 |
est31 |
seems it is in "the great file(1) list". |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
files containing music meant to be played on that ^^^^ device are themselves often called "SIDs" |
| 04:21 |
VanessaE |
est31: btw, that manual page is for the current minetest mapper?? I had no idea it had so many options |
| 04:21 |
est31 |
VanessaE, its only rogier's mod |
| 04:21 |
est31 |
not the official one |
| 04:21 |
VanessaE |
ahhh |
| 04:21 |
cheapie |
Then there's also things such as the ability to install a copy of the OS *from* a running copy of itself onto a flash drive plugged into another computer... |
| 04:22 |
cheapie |
Windows seems so inflexible by comparison. |
| 04:22 |
AndroidKris |
is the geometry even needed? |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
AndroidKris: not on smaller worlds |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
but as your world is explored more, eventually you will want to limit it. |
| 04:23 |
AndroidKris |
So the "size" of your world is based on the amount that's been explored? |
| 04:23 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 04:23 |
AndroidKris |
Is it Infinite? |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
no, not infinite |
| 04:24 |
AndroidKris |
how big max? |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
up to ~62km in each dimension |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
(31k from the origin each direction that is) |
| 04:24 |
AndroidKris |
1km = how many node spaces? |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
1000 :) |
| 04:24 |
AndroidKris |
jeeeee----sus |
| 04:25 |
AndroidKris |
62000 node across? |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
so an image could in theory reach ~62000 x 62000 pixels |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
uh huh |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
but est31 has a better way to handle huge maps |
| 04:26 |
est31 |
https://github.com/est31/leaftest |
| 04:26 |
est31 |
try it here: http://alket.mooo.com/map |
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AndroidKris |
at the average of 72 ppi, thats....(calculator)...just over 860in. x 860in. |
| 04:26 |
AndroidKris |
gawd |
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VanessaE |
uh huh :) |
| 04:27 |
AndroidKris |
I've seen some large maps in my few years in the military...but nothing like that. |
| 04:27 |
AndroidKris |
jebus |
| 04:31 |
AndroidKris |
generating first map now. Without geometry arguments. just ./minetest_mapper -i blah -o blah.png |
| 04:31 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
wont' look as good without --drawalpha :) |
| 04:32 |
AndroidKris |
Spit out a list of unknown nodes. |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
that's normal, unknowns are listed only according to what's in your colors.txt |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
use this ginormous one, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 04:33 |
AndroidKris |
just copy paste? |
| 04:33 |
AndroidKris |
replacing the old |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 04:33 |
AndroidKris |
word |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
or, |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
you can apparently point to it in the command line? |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
hm, nope, not in the standard version of the mapper. |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
anyway yeah just overwrite the stock one. |
| 04:35 |
AndroidKris |
overwrote already |
| 04:35 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
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AndroidKris |
running again, with new colors.txt, and --drawalpha |
| 04:36 |
AndroidKris |
./minetest_mapper: unrecognized option '--drawalpha' |
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AndroidKris |
Aborted (core dumped) |
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VanessaE |
interesting. works on the copy I'm using |
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AndroidKris |
https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp |
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AndroidKris |
That copy^^^^??? |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
nononono use the official one, https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper |
| 04:38 |
AndroidKris |
grrrr....gotta start over? |
| 04:38 |
AndroidKris |
grrrrrr.... |
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VanessaE |
mireq's version is old :) |
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AndroidKris |
so I'll just delete everything in that folder and do another git sync right? |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
git clone to a new directory imho |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper.git minetestmapper-official |
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VanessaE |
or so. |
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AndroidKris |
meh, I'd rather not have two copies |
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AndroidKris |
Esp. if one is obsolete |
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AndroidKris |
I may have 1Tb of hd space, but I'm not Trying to fill it up. |
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est31 |
rm -r * only removes stuff thats not hidden |
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est31 |
rm -r directory however removes everything |
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est31 |
(youll need rf for git) |
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AndroidKris |
or, right click, click remove |
| 04:42 |
AndroidKris |
:D |
| 04:42 |
est31 |
or that |
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VanessaE |
that works too |
| 04:42 |
AndroidKris |
after ctrl+h of course, so I can see the hidden files and make sure they go bye bye as well |
| 04:43 |
AndroidKris |
after git clone, it's just cmake . then make right? |
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AndroidKris |
cd into the folder |
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AndroidKris |
first |
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VanessaE |
same method to build it as before. should be the same deps also |
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AndroidKris |
heh, I shouldn't have to fight with dependencies this time though. They should all be there.lol |
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AndroidKris |
--drawalpha still doesn't work. |
| 04:51 |
AndroidKris |
segmentation fault |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
wat |
| 04:53 |
AndroidKris |
I'm running [./minetestmapper --drawalpha -i ~/.minetest/worlds/WaterHome/ -o ~/.minetest/maps/WaterHome.png] |
| 04:53 |
AndroidKris |
Works without --drawalpha though. |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
that's just weird. |
| 04:54 |
AndroidKris |
yup |
| 04:55 |
AndroidKris |
The actual output is "Segmentation fault (Core Dumped)" |
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VanessaE |
I got nuthin' |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 04:56 |
AndroidKris |
Well what good are ya then? |
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AndroidKris |
:D |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:00 |
AndroidKris |
You say yours works fine? |
| 05:02 |
AndroidKris |
VanessaE, is yours up to date? |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
mine is not. |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
I'm at commit bca8d3ce0 |
| 05:03 |
AndroidKris |
Maybe it broke something in an update? |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
possible |
| 05:04 |
AndroidKris |
I really need to get a git account... and pastebin as well.lol |
| 05:04 |
AndroidKris |
^^random thought. |
| 05:05 |
AndroidKris |
Could you, if I asked real nice like, would you update and check? If it's a bug, it should be reported. |
| 05:05 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
no :) |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
too tired right now |
| 05:07 |
AndroidKris |
Understandable. When you get around to it then. |
| 05:09 |
AndroidKris |
However, I do see this from almost a year ago. https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/issues/5 |
| 05:09 |
AndroidKris |
hehe. gonna read up on backtracing and see if the issues are related. |
| 05:10 |
AndroidKris |
Or at least try to copy your steps in producing that info about the segfault. Maybe I can make heads or tails of it. |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
good idea |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
also try rolling back to bca8d3ce0 and recompiling |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
if it works, git bisect it between there and HEAD and report the crash |
| 05:14 |
AndroidKris |
I just watched that last bit fly over my head like a 757. |
| 05:14 |
AndroidKris |
rolling back, got it. can do. |
| 05:14 |
AndroidKris |
git bisect? HEAD? |
| 05:15 |
AndroidKris |
dafuq? |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
if it works, you just type 'git bisect start' and hit enter |
| 05:15 |
AndroidKris |
lots of reading...skip that...taking notes. |
| 05:15 |
AndroidKris |
Saving for later |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
it'll spit out some status info |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
just cmake/make/run it. |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
if it still works, type "git bisect good' |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
if it fails, type "git bisect bad" |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
in either case, repeat the cmake/make/run attempt |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
loop until it spits out a message telling you where the bad commit was. |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
(I think the ends of the bisect default to your current commit and the HEAD of repo) |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
'man git bisect' for more details :) |
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AndroidKris |
Saving this irc log for reference tomorrow...or this weekend. |
| 05:18 |
AndroidKris |
It's quarter after 0100 and i gotta be up in five hours. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
once it gives you the message about "such and such is the first bad commit", file a bug report. copy&paste that bisect message, and see if you can get a gdb backtrace also like you saw in #5 |
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AndroidKris |
That's at least an hours work...If it goes smoothly. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
nah, it's quicker than that usually |
| 05:19 |
AndroidKris |
Not for me...after 1am...and having never done it before. |
| 05:19 |
AndroidKris |
<< not to familiar with git |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:19 |
AndroidKris |
lol |
| 05:19 |
AndroidKris |
I'll get it done this weekend though. |
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AndroidKris |
Depending on the kids schedules |
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AndroidKris |
And on that note, I'm going to bed....GOODNIGHT FREE...NODE?!? |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
think I'll do the same |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
night :) |
| 05:25 |
AndroidKris |
Peace. |
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Nappi |
@oldCoder: http://minetest.org/minetest-win32-150423.zip works great :) no problems so far |
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OldCoder |
Nappi, thank you |
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OldCoder |
I will post a 64-bit version soon |
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OldCoder |
And update the extra _game in both |
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Nappi |
I like some of the little things you held on to that have been removed from current DEV version |
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Nappi |
like the main menu closing on double-click |
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Nappi |
It runs Paramat's dev-biome mod fairly quick too. thanks for sharing it |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Teach Your Children to Save Day! :-D |
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ron_montilla |
why people that makes mods don't put the folder already with the right name on the zip? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused variable Client::m_active_blocks ab04b7f http://git.io/vf2XJ (2015-04-24T15:41:45+02:00) |
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Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11955 |
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Calinou |
come on, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory had that animation 10 years before us |
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sfan5 |
k |
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sfan5 |
apparently any salute is a nazi salute |
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Krock |
"You are not authorised to read this forum." |
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sfan5 |
sec |
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VanessaE |
I moved it to offtopic. |
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sfan5 |
Krock: http://i.imgur.com/ifFPaW8.png |
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est31 |
btw if a forum admin has time, could they give me "developer" attribute? |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: belongs to trash imo |
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est31 |
^ |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: fine by me |
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VanessaE |
(I wasn't entirely sure) |
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Krock |
sfan5, you've got a tall screen there. |
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sfan5 |
Krock: nope, just https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/full-page-screen-capture/fdpohaocaechififmbbbbbknoalclacl |
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Krock |
oh, what a nice addon :D |
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est31 |
There is also http://phantomjs.org/screen-capture.html |
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est31 |
(but wont work with login) |
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sfan5 |
it will |
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sfan5 |
you just need to give it the cookies |
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sfan5 |
but thats too much work |
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bus_error_10_2 |
what do the numbers after group names in lua mods mean |
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bus_error_10_2 |
for example, in nodes.lua "groups = {cracky=3, stone=1}" |
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est31 |
bus_error_10_2, the numbers stand for how long tools take to break something |
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bus_error_10_2 |
ok, that makes sense :) |
| 17:27 |
est31 |
tools can specify how long they "dig" for a specified combination of group and number |
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bus_error_10_2 |
... and you just answered my other question too |
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bus_error_10_2 |
thanks :) |
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Calinou |
gotta love media queries |
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[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: German translation: shorter setting name e376441 http://git.io/vfVbc (2015-04-24T20:25:33+02:00) |
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Calinou |
finished uploading |
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Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11956 |
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Calinou |
so much spam \o/ http://lbf.haoluobo.com/forum/python/ |
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Calinou |
who said the Minetest forums were too spammed? ;) |
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OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/minetest-oldcoder-win32.zip |
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OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/minetest-oldcoder-win64.zip |
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OldCoder |
32-bit and 64-bit Minetests for Windows. Kindly test either. The 64-bit one in particular needs testing. |
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