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00:08 AndroidKris can mesecons pistons be used to lift, say, a section of floor?
00:12 VanessaE yes
00:12 VanessaE but only to a small degree
00:12 VanessaE pistons don't stack well, you might be able to elevate the floor section by 2m at most, if you're careful with your circuit
00:13 VanessaE point at the ground and place the piston and it'll point up.
00:14 VanessaE regular pistons will push the floor and whatever's above it up and it'll stay there on retract. sticky pistons will drag the floor section back down with them when they retract (but idk if the blocks above the floor will follow)
00:14 Sokomine hmm
00:14 Hijiri I don't think they follow
00:14 Hijiri but you can pull the top piston down
00:14 * Sokomine looks at one of the pistons
00:15 Hijiri and then have the top piston go up and pull the node down another block
00:15 Hijiri if you were willing to make the convoluted circuit, I think you could make it arbitrarily high
00:15 Hijiri I'm not sure though, maybe you would run out of space for the wires
00:16 Hijiri also it probably takes something like O(h^2) operations, where h is the height of the piston tower
00:16 Sokomine afaik pistons can push up to 20 blocks? or was that the movestone? i seldom use them
00:16 Hijiri actually I don't know about the arbitrarily high, I think pistons have a limit to how many blocks they push
00:16 Hijiri movestone I have no idea
00:17 Hijiri last time I tried them I couldn't get them to work
00:17 Sokomine no idea if movestones work at all
00:17 Sokomine the only thing i sometimes use are nodebreakers. mostly to dig wood automaticly for very small machines
00:22 AndroidKris Say I wan't to lift a section of floor that's 4x4 nodes. Will a piston at each corner work?
00:22 Hijiri I think a piston only pushes blocks on its axis of pushing
00:23 AndroidKris So directly on top, nothing connected to the block that it's pushing.
00:23 Hijiri yep
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00:23 AndroidKris k, I'll have to split the floor james bond style then.
00:23 AndroidKris lol
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00:23 Hijiri it will push other blocks that are in the direction of pushing
00:23 Hijiri but nothing perpendicular etc
00:24 Johnsen2 VanessaE
00:24 VanessaE Johnsen2: don't even start.  not here.
00:24 AndroidKris Awesome, Thanks Hijiri and VanessaE
00:25 Johnsen2 VanessaE i cant join #minetest
00:25 VanessaE Johnsen2: because I made that channel invite-only for now
00:26 Johnsen2 Well, ill go playing http://www.combat3.com
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00:45 AndroidKris Okay, I thought this was #minetest
00:45 VanessaE it is.
00:45 VanessaE but he's talking about a different network
00:45 AndroidKris ah.
00:45 VanessaE where several Minetest server IRC bots are located in a common chat
00:46 AndroidKris for you l33t guys, gotcha
00:46 VanessaE heh
00:46 Sokomine just join one of the servers :-) then you may talk on that channel through the server's bot
00:47 AndroidKris Sorry, I don't think I would like to be on that server. I'll speak for myself, don't need a bot to do it for me.lol
00:47 VanessaE haha
00:48 Sokomine the bot just forwards what's said in the chat on the server so that you can talk with players on other servers
00:48 Sokomine that's a very convenient thing and good to have
00:48 AndroidKris ah, so you'll be talking on that network, but I'll see the message here on freenode.
00:49 VanessaE not on freenode
00:49 VanessaE but on the network those bots are on - irc.inchra.net
00:50 AndroidKris I'm not trackin. Laymans terms please
00:50 AndroidKris Or an example.
00:50 VanessaE as freenode, efnet, ircnet, newnet, and so on are IRC networks, so is Inchra.  that address points to the main server you'd connect to to use it.
00:51 VanessaE anything said while signed into one of the Minetest game servers that are connected to that network will appear in whatever channel the server has joined, usually #minetest
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03:18 hmmmm hey
03:25 Zeno` heya
03:25 Zeno` what's shaking?
03:25 hmmmm nothing
03:25 hmmmm just looking at initializePaths()... what a horror show
03:25 Zeno` well, there is a lot of horror
03:25 Zeno` lol
03:26 Zeno` I was looking at touchscreengui.cpp
03:26 Zeno` Pretty sure I might rewrite it from scratch
03:27 hmmmm for RUN_IN_PLACE=0, why is it okay for Linux to attempt to find the share dir based on the exec path but not other POSIX-like
03:27 Zeno` *shrug*
03:28 Zeno` I don't really mind as long as it keeps looking in ~/.minetest
03:28 hmmmm hmmm
03:28 hmmmm /opt/bin/minetest is the path it'd be, right?
03:29 Zeno` well, I really don't know. Distros do different things :/
03:30 hmmmm i think it is safe to assume that the share dir for minetest would be under the same prefix as the bin
03:30 Zeno` Looking at that function, I can't help but wonder whether sometimes it's better to #ifdef the entire function for each implementation rather than having all the #ifdef/#elif/#etc within the actual function heh
03:31 hmmmm yeah
03:31 hmmmm that's what I thought
03:31 Zeno` Yeah, I've never actually done a system install so I'm not sure where it would go. But logically what you say is correct
03:32 hmmmm I'm trying to think of what solaris does
03:32 hmmmm this would totally F up if it was being run by root
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03:35 Zeno` ? on solaris?
03:35 hmmmm yeah
03:35 Zeno` I know someone who ran their server as root
03:36 Zeno` I pointed out that they were crazy and they said "oh, I'm only testing" lol
03:36 hmmmm yeah you're right
03:36 hmmmm this is nuts.  who on earth is going to run minetest on solaris as root and expect it to just work
03:36 hmmmm but it'll be a pleasant surprise when it does =]
03:37 Zeno` well, I would *hope* someone running solaris these days would know better heh
03:37 VanessaE system install for debian at least goes to /usr/local/* unless you change your install prefix
03:37 hmmmm so it's /usr/local for some linux distros too
03:37 VanessaE /opt/minetest would have been a better location imho
03:37 Zeno` shouldn't it be retrieved from cmake?
03:37 VanessaE I have MY install set to go to /usr/* though
03:37 hmmmm yeah true
03:37 hmmmm it should be
03:38 hmmmm why are we not using cmake for this bullshit
03:38 Zeno` the function probably hasn't really been looked at since it was initially written
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06:20 cd2 hi
06:21 cd2 how to programm a minetest-client in python?
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06:24 cd2 I found something on the Internet:
06:24 cd2 https://github.com/boppreh/minetesting
06:25 cd2 but it doesnt work
06:37 AndroidKris client?
06:38 AndroidKris like third party software to run the already prebuilt software?
06:38 Etzos cd2: Why do you want a minetest-client in Python?
06:39 cd2 I try to programm a simple minetest robot (AI) wich plays minetest for me :)
06:40 AndroidKris minetest is to complex of an application to have a "simple" AI to work for you.
06:41 cd2 I tryed it in c++ too, (based on the orginal minetest client)
06:41 AndroidKris The best I could think of would be something you could input a blueprint into and let it build, given the materials and enough free space.
06:42 cd2 I found this : https://github.com/boppreh/minetesting
06:42 cd2 minetest client in python
06:42 AndroidKris And as you previously stated, it doesn't work.
06:42 cd2 but it doesnt work
06:43 cd2 Error : could not allocate player
06:43 AndroidKris Need to find the coords and input them somewhere, maybe.
06:43 cd2 AndroidKris : Yes I Did and I did it again XD
06:44 AndroidKris I know nothing of py.
06:44 cd2 hmm, good idea
06:44 AndroidKris You'll have to read through the entire python script to even hope to find if that's the case.
06:45 AndroidKris Hope it's a short script.
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06:46 cd2 the 2. error : Access denied. Reason: Your client sent something server didn't expect.Try reconnecting or updating your client
06:48 AndroidKris that python script is for remote controlling a character, not automation.
06:48 cd2 I know
06:48 AndroidKris it allows say, my character on a server, to be controlled by possibly you.
06:48 AndroidKris How do you plan on turning that into automation?
06:49 Etzos The same way bots are made for other games.
06:49 cd2 there are some commands : turn(), walk(), teleport()...
06:49 cd2 in MinetestClient class
06:50 AndroidKris I guess you'll have to modify the posted mod and scripts to point to a local (user created) script that would tell the bot what to do.
06:50 AndroidKris but you'd have to write a new script every time you want it to do a different task.
06:51 AndroidKris well, maybe not, depending on how much can actually be done with a python script.
06:52 cd2 ...
06:52 AndroidKris creating a virtual server would minimize changes to the original script.
06:53 AndroidKris Don't hate me, It's 3am and Im wired.
06:53 cd2 Whats a virtual server?
06:53 cd2 I dont hate you :)
06:54 AndroidKris It's turning your pc into a server that only hosts you, and only when you tell it to basically.
06:54 AndroidKris I can set one up here in a matter of 30 minutes or so.
06:55 AndroidKris All you are doing is hosting yourself as a client, on your local network, twice. We'll call one client the puppet and the other is the puppeteer.
06:57 AndroidKris That would require running two instances of minetest, which I'm not sure is possible. Never tried, let alone on a local, virtual server
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06:57 cd2 hmm, I already tryed that
06:58 cd2 It works, but my client doesnt work
06:58 AndroidKris two pc's would work then.
06:58 AndroidKris or even a handheld, like android tablet or so.
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06:59 AndroidKris the virtual server pc would also have to play host to the puppet instance of your minetest ai.
07:00 cd2 I got an error message : 08:59:45: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: : Failed to emerge player
07:00 cd2 08:59:45: ERROR[ServerThread]: TOSERVER_INIT2 stage 2 client init failed for peer 2
07:01 AndroidKris Is that from trying to open minetest twice?
07:01 cd2 nop
07:01 cd2 Its from connecting the client ai to my local server
07:02 AndroidKris HA, i just realized that even when you log in as singleplayer to play a local game, minetest itself creates a virtual server.
07:02 AndroidKris read all the crap on the loading bar..."creating server" "joining server" etc.
07:03 AndroidKris Okay, enough for tonight. Good luck to you. Hope you figure it out. If you do...please share on minetest.net
07:03 AndroidKris I'd love to try out a mod like this.
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07:06 cd2 thx
07:06 cd2 I will try it :)
07:08 Etzos I would guess that the Python client isn't sending the ACK properly to the server, but I'd have to look at the minetest server code more to figure it out.
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09:04 Creeper Thanks for the cool MODS and hard work behind the scenes, i had to Creep in to thank everyone! :)
09:08 Creeper Standard MineTest without MOBS got boring after a few weeks, but now it´s cool and for free so it beats MineCraft! :D
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11:10 xenkey mods and mobs
11:16 xenkey Etzos: !!
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11:23 YvesLevier Hey.  I used a script that force me to be client on my server.  Then cause of Java, my server is slowdowned.  I wanna reinstall my server and my personal client serarately without loosing my world.  Any hint?
11:23 YvesLevier Plz
11:24 est31 YvesLevier you have to back up the worlds directory
11:25 YvesLevier you mean .minetest?
11:25 YvesLevier How?
11:25 est31 try moving .minetest to another location and start minetest
11:25 YvesLevier on it
11:27 YvesLevier .minetest in home copied to "Another location" folder on desktop
11:27 YvesLevier didnt move but copied
11:27 YvesLevier est31: shall all really move?
11:27 est31 yes really move
11:27 YvesLevier on it
11:28 est31 I want to find out whether when you start minetest, your world has disappeared
11:28 est31 because if it has, you know that your world is in the .minetest folder you moved right now
11:28 YvesLevier .minetest no longer in my home folder.
11:29 YvesLevier then try restart using term>  cd Bureau ....  Then : ./Minetest/bin/minetest
11:30 YvesLevier (dont have a launcher atm)
11:30 YvesLevier is that it?
11:30 est31 so does the client list your world?
11:31 YvesLevier lost my world port and all
11:32 YvesLevier Even my name
11:32 est31 ok
11:32 est31 then you know the minetest is in there
11:32 est31 you can safely back up that directory now
11:32 YvesLevier seems
11:32 est31 ok in theory your world can be at another location too
11:34 YvesLevier not im my clients apparently.  I make a copy on network?  What you mean friend.  Thx btw.
11:34 est31 YvesLevier, try to put the .minetest directory back and start the server
11:34 YvesLevier on it
11:34 est31 There will be a line ACTION[main]: World at [world directory here]
11:34 est31 so thats where your world is
11:36 YvesLevier it made a new .minetest as soon i restarded minetest first.  Empty one apparently.  I overwrite the empty by my backup.  Right?
11:36 est31 yes delete the empty one
11:37 YvesLevier This time i copied from my backup
11:38 est31 now start it
11:38 est31 and look for the line
11:38 YvesLevier but i didnt understand your :
11:38 YvesLevier 07:34:41 - est31 : There will be a line ACTION[main]: World at [world directory here]
11:38 YvesLevier 07:34:50 - est31 : so thats where your world is
11:38 est31 when you start the server in the console
11:38 est31 there is some output
11:38 YvesLevier i restart or try to understand ACTION you names
11:39 YvesLevier sure
11:39 YvesLevier lemme see
11:39 YvesLevier i retreaved all.  Apparently.
11:40 YvesLevier ACTION[ServerThread]: MOBF: saving entity without spawntime setting current time
11:40 est31 go higher
11:40 YvesLevier what you mean "higher"?
11:41 est31 scroll up until you see ascii art "MINETEST"
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11:42 YvesLevier i no longer see ascii art.  brb i change term size
11:44 est31 you can also have a look at debug.txt
11:44 YvesLevier i confirm.  No ascii art
11:45 YvesLevier WARNING: system-wide share not found at "/usr/local/share/minetest"
11:45 YvesLevier WARNING: system-wide share not found at "/home/levier2/Bureau/Minet​est/bin/../share/minetest"
11:45 YvesLevier WARNING: system-wide share found at "/home/levier2/Bureau/Minetest/bin/.."
11:45 YvesLevier i feel strange
11:46 YvesLevier maybe i didnt close properly
11:46 YvesLevier brb
11:47 est31 ignore those
11:48 YvesLevier it starts my minetest apparently normaly.  But with alot less term messages than usual
11:48 YvesLevier Didnt try to entrer btw
11:49 YvesLevier I tought i firstly installed bad scritps at first.
11:49 YvesLevier Listening
11:51 YvesLevier est31: Will wait your instructions idealy dont get too many people trying to help me at the time
11:51 YvesLevier take your time est
11:51 est31 have you found the line?
11:52 YvesLevier What line?
11:52 YvesLevier Sry im lost atm
11:53 est31 ACTION[main]: World at
11:54 YvesLevier not in term
11:54 est31 you have started the world?
11:54 YvesLevier not yet
11:54 YvesLevier shall i?
11:55 YvesLevier as server?
11:55 YvesLevier i mean tabs
11:56 YvesLevier do i try to play?
11:56 YvesLevier Still have my copy but :
11:57 est31 yes play, open your inventory, close it, then close minetest
11:57 est31 then look at the log
11:57 est31 and search for the line
11:57 YvesLevier before : must tell im having a (no dot) minetest folder on my desktop
11:58 YvesLevier then i go for it?  Start and look at inventory then log.  Ok?
11:59 YvesLevier i wanna get sure i dont get you lost in my operations.
11:59 YvesLevier This is why i hold for confirmations before to do anything
11:59 est31 so have you done it
12:00 YvesLevier on it
12:02 YvesLevier got ascii art then :
12:02 YvesLevier World at [/home/levier2/.minetest/worlds/StCamille]
12:02 est31 ok then
12:02 est31 then thats your directory
12:02 est31 so if you copy .minetest, that should be enough
12:03 YvesLevier looks like
12:03 YvesLevier but how separate my server and client?  It starts a client, as usual.
12:03 YvesLevier Understood what i seek?
12:04 YvesLevier In otherwords Java started
12:04 YvesLevier on a server i hope to be free to serve.  Not draw.
12:04 YvesLevier Am i intelligible?
12:05 YvesLevier i mean do i make sence?
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12:08 YvesLevier How to tell....  I retrieve all my world and all.  But im still a client of my own server.
12:08 YvesLevier Thats make my server to lost some requests from clients.  = some bugs.
12:08 YvesLevier i think
12:09 YvesLevier est31: Am I followable?
12:09 est31 no
12:09 est31 I can tell you how to separate client and server
12:09 YvesLevier Yes
12:10 YvesLevier Thats what i want
12:10 YvesLevier plz
12:10 tim_flatus Can anyone enlighten me as to what causes corrupted double-linked list errors? Is it something to do with glibc versions or is there likely to be something wrong with my lua?
12:10 tim_flatus I realise that it's a know issue
12:11 tim_flatus I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do about it
12:12 tim_flatus Other han learn how to use valgrind or whatever
12:12 YvesLevier est31: English isnt my first language.  Sorry for that.  But you understood what im seeking.  Separe client and server.
12:13 YvesLevier Will use another computer for client and leave my server free to serve...
12:13 tim_flatus minetestserver YvesLevier
12:14 YvesLevier a script?
12:14 YvesLevier Est trying to do so for me... getting sure i wont loose my world
12:15 tim_flatus It is a separate app
12:15 tim_flatus ok
12:15 YvesLevier so then there is a minetestserver script AND a minetestclient?
12:15 tim_flatus You can copy the world folder ...
12:16 tim_flatus There is minetestserver and minetest
12:16 YvesLevier lemme look in .minetest
12:16 tim_flatus These are executables
12:16 YvesLevier executables?
12:17 YvesLevier im in Linux tim
12:17 xenkey LINUX HAS EXECUTABLES
12:17 YvesLevier xenkey :)  nice to see you
12:17 xenkey They're just in ELF and have no extension
12:18 YvesLevier but i need to compile to get them.  Right?
12:18 tim_flatus no
12:18 tim_flatus not necessarily
12:18 YvesLevier How then?
12:18 tim_flatus apt-get?
12:18 xenkey minetest --server
12:18 xenkey minetestserver(5)
12:18 YvesLevier ok
12:19 tim_flatus I run minetestserver
12:19 xenkey sorry 6
12:19 YvesLevier kk 6
12:19 tim_flatus on Debian
12:19 YvesLevier then i can get client on my server, but not necessary.  Right?
12:19 tim_flatus minetestserver is just command-line
12:20 tim_flatus So you use minetest as a client
12:20 YvesLevier i thouth so
12:20 YvesLevier My actual client/server - then i choose client to connect to my server
12:20 YvesLevier is that what you mean?
12:20 tim_flatus yes
12:21 YvesLevier command is apt-get --server minetestserver(6)?
12:21 xenkey ...
12:21 xenkey lol
12:21 tim_flatus hein?
12:21 xenkey lol
12:22 YvesLevier as you see im nOOb enough
12:22 YvesLevier but i need it
12:22 tim_flatus YvesLevier what is 1ier langue and what is your distro?
12:22 YvesLevier Step by step plz
12:22 xenkey you want to be spoon fed
12:22 xenkey just say
12:22 xenkey "minetestserver"
12:22 YvesLevier im french and using Ubuntu 14.04
12:23 xenkey "minetestserver"
12:23 xenkey thats the command
12:23 tim_flatus ok so - apt-get minetestserver
12:23 xenkey minetest supplies it
12:23 tim_flatus $sudo apt-get minetestserver
12:23 tim_flatus Does it ok
12:24 tim_flatus So it is installed all ready YvesLevier
12:25 YvesLevier made sudo su
12:25 YvesLevier then : apt-get minetestserver
12:25 YvesLevier that tell that this not exist
12:25 xenkey minetest
12:25 xenkey apt-get minetest
12:25 xenkey apt-get install minetest
12:25 YvesLevier install
12:25 YvesLevier ...
12:25 YvesLevier of course
12:27 * tim_flatus is not properly awake yet
12:27 xenkey same
12:27 * sfan5 is a cat
12:27 YvesLevier telling that all is already installed yet
12:27 YvesLevier i try minetestserver in commandline?
12:27 tim_flatus yes YvesLevier c'est bon
12:28 YvesLevier Got the ascii art and looks like waiting
12:29 YvesLevier Now i start my usual minetest?
12:29 YvesLevier will it recognize my old mods and worlds?
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12:29 YvesLevier take your time
12:29 tim_flatus minetestserver --worldname <world> --config ~/.minetest/minetest.conf --logfile debug.txt
12:30 tim_flatus yes it is the same
12:30 YvesLevier lemme look - anyway i got plenty backups
12:30 YvesLevier brb
12:30 * tim_flatus feeds sfan5 4 fish
12:31 * sfan5 noms fish
12:36 YvesLevier My server is looking on port 30000 instead of 6661 as i told and dont recognize my pass.
12:36 YvesLevier Any clue?
12:36 tim_flatus You are not singleplayer
12:36 YvesLevier No. and i wasnt
12:37 tim_flatus ok
12:37 YvesLevier my problem was only i got client PLUS server even i want to use another computer for graphics in order my server to works better for my clients
12:38 YvesLevier is that kinda english?
12:38 tim_flatus So run minetestserver on the other computer.
12:39 tim_flatus You will need to copy he world folder and minetest.conf
12:40 YvesLevier will be still able to run a client on my own server?
12:40 tim_flatus In minetest.conf set port = 6661
12:40 YvesLevier i already have a client computer
12:40 xenkey is it really that difficult
12:40 tim_flatus If that is what you want
12:40 xenkey is it
12:41 xenkey no its not kindly rtfm
12:41 tim_flatus ^ that would be better
12:41 YvesLevier i see ( i think)
12:41 xenkey I also see
12:44 YvesLevier its already at 6661 in .conf
12:45 YvesLevier Shall i clean (copy) .minetest out then restart server?
12:45 tim_flatus So point your client at port 6661
12:45 YvesLevier my router
12:46 tim_flatus ah maybe you need to set portforwarding too
12:46 YvesLevier brb i reset to 30000
12:46 YvesLevier i tried with Ankman
12:46 YvesLevier having a TPlink de marde
12:46 YvesLevier brb
12:46 xenkey hey do you want to be swatted
12:46 xenkey if not then RTFM
12:49 YvesLevier i fear i installed my minetest very a wrong way
12:49 YvesLevier at start.
12:49 * tim_flatus has a nice cup of stfu ;-)
12:49 YvesLevier do you share that feeling?
12:49 xenkey idktf
12:50 xenkey i do everything the right way sir
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12:50 tim_flatus vous devez lire le manuel YvesLevier
12:51 YvesLevier tim_flatus: about minetest or my language?
12:51 xenkey yes i agree rtfm
12:51 tim_flatus about minetest
12:52 tim_flatus I know what works for me, but not for you
12:53 YvesLevier server and client/server dont seem to point at the same place.
12:53 YvesLevier will backup then start new installation
12:53 Zeno` I don't have a manual :(
12:53 tim_flatus Well make it so then
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12:54 YvesLevier thx for all - wheres that manual plz?
12:54 * tim_flatus facepalms
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13:00 tim_flatus chons vat!
13:01 YvesLevier having a .minetest in /root AND in /home (...)
13:01 tim_flatus delete the one in /root
13:01 YvesLevier is that because i made sudo su?
13:03 tim_flatus I don't know.
13:04 tim_flatus You should not run minetest as root
13:04 Zeno` sudo su? su is switch user, sudo is switch user and do... sudo su doesn't make a whole lot of sense
13:04 tim_flatus He means he has enabled su - Ubuntu is b0rken like that
13:05 Zeno` shouldn't make a difference. Anyway as tim_flatus said, you should not be running minetestserver as root
13:06 tim_flatus That would be what creates a .minetest folder in /root
13:07 CWz hey Zeno`
13:07 YvesLevier That was the problem
13:07 YvesLevier Thx again.  Now all is working fine :)
13:09 tim_flatus merveilleuse! :-)
13:10 Zeno` sudo passwd is the first command I run if using ubuntu lol
13:11 * tim_flatus is a Debian chauvinist
13:12 tim_flatus Ubuntu makes me want to defenestrate
13:12 tim_flatus lol
13:14 * CWz uses ubuntu server for his server
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14:40 YvesLevier Since im no longer client PLUS server.  I dont have access to "/" command prompt in my client chat.  How to directly send "/" commands to server.  Ex.:  change time, etc.
14:40 YvesLevier plz?
14:40 YvesLevier in command line line of my server, i mean
14:41 est31 that doesnt work yet
14:41 est31 you can set it up with irc
14:41 est31 but thats a bit complicated
14:42 YvesLevier So then : i log my client with priviledges to change then logout my client afterthen?
14:43 est31 yes
14:43 YvesLevier thx :)
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14:45 YvesLevier est31: endgoal is i start my server without gui.
14:45 YvesLevier ...for better server performance.
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14:45 YvesLevier your clue about IRC does work in that way?
14:46 YvesLevier I mean a server without graphics interface and can even control.
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14:47 YvesLevier Is startx then get out after a command a right way?
14:47 YvesLevier see?
14:48 YvesLevier i mean startx only for commands to server then quit GUI
14:48 YvesLevier am i lost again?
14:49 YvesLevier Or if your "kinda complicated" solution is the right way?
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14:51 YvesLevier Controlling the server without graphic interface.  My material is abit old...
14:52 ElectronLibre The only way I see to control the server is to connect with GUI as the admin, or to shut the server down and change configuration files.
14:52 YvesLevier Salut Électron :)
14:52 YvesLevier I see.
14:53 YvesLevier In other words, i can shutdown server.  Use "gedit" using command line (if possible) then restart server.  Is that what you mean?
14:54 xenkey use nano
14:54 ElectronLibre gedit requires the X server to work, if you only have CLI you can use nano/vi/vim.
14:54 YvesLevier "nano"?
14:55 ElectronLibre One of the most basic CLI file editor.
14:55 YvesLevier ElectronLibre: i feared that
14:55 ElectronLibre But if you only need to edit a file it's enough.
14:55 ElectronLibre nano <filename>
14:55 ElectronLibre Then save, restart.
14:56 YvesLevier i see.  Clearly. :)
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15:04 YvesLevier ElectronLibre: may i can use my privileged client (wich was client/server at installation) on another machine in order to make commands so then the server can kept my clients well served?
15:04 YvesLevier im never sure im speaking english or kind of...
15:05 ElectronLibre Anyway, I can't understand it, don't bother, speak french on #minetest-fr.
15:05 YvesLevier i mean without closer the server
15:05 YvesLevier thx
15:06 xenkey lol
15:06 ElectronLibre xenkey, I can understand when someone speaks french bad, but english isn't my mother tongue ^^
15:08 xenkey Yeah
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16:04 kaezaa Greetings
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16:04 jin_xi hey kaezaa
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16:28 VanessaE hi all.
16:29 ElectronLibre Hello VanessaE.
16:29 est31 hi
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16:34 VanessaE wonder if that was the real kaeza?
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16:35 ElectronLibre I don't think so.
16:36 VanessaE my logs show him having signed on once from that same IP back in march, also
16:36 VanessaE but usually he has a freenode cloak user@host
16:37 ElectronLibre Hmm, have you got his mask?
16:37 VanessaE nope.
16:38 VanessaE not his real user@host, no
16:38 ElectronLibre I had an idea, but I hope it's not her again.
16:38 VanessaE his cloak normally reads ~kaeza@unaffiliated/kaeza
16:38 ElectronLibre No, I mean the mask of this kaeza, not the usual one.
16:39 nrzkt hi VanessaE
16:39 VanessaE oh that last kaeza's user@host was ~androirc@170.51.65.168
16:39 VanessaE hey nrz.
16:39 ElectronLibre Ok, then I don't know.
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18:07 Octupuslegs havent been onn here for awhile
18:09 exio4 long time no see
18:10 Octupuslegs its been too long
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18:17 MinetestBot [git] obbneq@gmail.com -> minetest/minetest: fix infinite spawners 0c792db http://git.io/vvbGY (2015-04-18T20:14:34+02:00)
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20:38 xenkey hi
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20:46 luizrpgluiz hui
20:47 luizrpgluiz hi
20:49 xenkey hui luizrpgluiz
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21:10 Etzos xenkey: ping! We seem to keep missing each other.
21:24 xenkey Etzos: Hi there
21:24 xenkey I never see you online -.-
21:26 Etzos Like I said, we seem to miss each other. Although I'll admit I haven't been around much.
21:27 xenkey I'm around from about 9 till 11 BST
21:36 luizrpgluiz here in Brazil is 18:35
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21:39 Etzos I'd like to say when I'll be around, but recently I have no idea.
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23:54 AndroidKris phantombeta, check your internet connection

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