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01:08 Pilcrow yay, I changed my github profile pic to the same sleepy blue cat I use in the forums!  :D
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01:56 hmmmm I take back what I said about KDevelop
01:56 hmmmm it's crap
01:57 Pilcrow ^ what did you say about it before, hmmmm?  :P
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03:32 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix set_bits 699e066 http://git.io/j5M6 (2015-03-31T23:30:44-04:00)
03:32 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: ObjDefManager, Mapgen SAPI: Huge refactoring 337e79c http://git.io/j5Mi (2015-03-31T23:27:58-04:00)
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03:53 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix usage of destroyed mutex b4247df http://git.io/j594 (2015-03-31T23:50:38-04:00)
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04:08 MinetestBot [git] Warr1024 -> minetest/minetest: Clean scaling pre-filter for formspec/HUD. 6d61375 http://git.io/j5QV (2015-04-01T00:01:05-04:00)
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04:19 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix some minor details from 6d61375 ddf96c7 http://git.io/j57j (2015-04-01T00:19:10-04:00)
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04:39 Pilcrow cool. Warr1024's smooth-scaling option got merged. I've been using it and love it, so that's an awesome commit~  :)
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07:09 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716837/
07:09 Calinou how do I choose which screen to resume? screen -r minetest doesn't work, screen -R minetest creates yet another screen, screen -d minetest doesn't work either
07:09 Calinou mentioning PID doesn't work either
07:14 Calinou oh, screen -d -r 10935 does it
07:15 Calinou how do I remove a screen session entirely from the list (screen -ls)?
07:24 exio4 Calinou: exit everything in that screen?
07:25 Calinou thanks
07:27 exio4 Calinou: another "neat" param to screen is -D (other being -x), -D is "force detach other side", it basically kills (also) the parent where the currently attached plus detaching
07:28 exio4 -x is multihead, connecting to the same screen from more than one place
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09:09 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Fun Day! :-D
09:10 Calinou http://www.godotengine.org/w​p/godot-is-now-really-free/
09:14 sfan5 Calinou: "Type "screen [-d] -r [pid.]tty.host" to resume one of them"
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09:29 WSDguy2014 Hello guys, watch this april fool video and remember. Turn Volume Up for Best Experiment. Copy and paste link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzrnpk​NpiyY&feature=youtu.be&t=3m40s
09:29 Calinou no.
09:29 WSDguy2014 or click on link
09:29 WSDguy2014 ok, but why?
09:30 Calinou we have enough april fools :P
09:30 WSDguy2014 today its april fools day
09:30 Megaf_ Calinou: you will love tmux
09:31 Megaf_ is like screen, but with windows inside
09:31 Megaf_ Start session: tmux
09:31 Calinou my favorite quote on tmux: “suddenly: permissively licensed”
09:31 Megaf_ then, git ctrl + "
09:31 Calinou jokes aside, I don't need it
09:31 Megaf_ ok
09:31 WSDguy2014 if you laging, press Alt+F4
09:31 Calinou screen is enough
09:32 Megaf_ by the way,  I might have found an interesting an odd and bad bug on 0.12, #Minetest-Dev
09:32 Calinou !server Calinou
09:32 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 0/32, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
09:32 Megaf_ or theres something with my OS
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09:33 WSDguy2014 im going to... Jordach's Server
09:34 Megaf_ !server Megaf
09:34 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
09:35 WSDguy2014 in Jordach's Server there no players are
09:42 nrzkt !server nrz
09:42 MinetestBot nrzkt: No results
09:42 nrzkt comment il les trouve ? :p
09:42 nrzkt oops, how can the bot find the server ? :)
09:43 Megaf_ !server nrz
09:43 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
09:43 nrzkt !server Endless
09:43 MinetestBot nrzkt: Endless Story Survival | e-story.wtf | Clients: 0/100, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms
09:43 nrzkt there :D
09:43 Calinou wtf ftw
09:44 nrzkt yeah :p
09:44 nrzkt https://e-story.wtf :p
09:44 Megaf_ Oo
09:44 Megaf_ how do we get a wtf?
09:44 nrzkt i buy it with gandi.net
09:44 Calinou gandi.net :D
09:44 nrzkt 39$ per year
09:44 Calinou what is the command to perform reverse DNS?
09:45 nrzkt dig -x <ip>
09:45 Megaf_ does it have private whois?
09:45 nrzkt all you need
09:45 Megaf_ 35 USD a wtf at name.com
09:45 nrzkt 39€ not $, sorry :p we have some taxes
09:46 nrzkt 29,49€ now
09:46 nrzkt at the release of .wtf is was more expensive :p
09:47 Calinou paying a lot for silly domains is silly
09:47 nrzkt right, but this is a good name :p
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09:51 Megaf_ I'm happy with my .coms
09:52 nrzkt i also like .fr for my personal things, but for playing games .wtf is great :p
09:54 sfan5 !title
09:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Endless Story - Ysondre
09:58 xenkey !server Zenith
09:58 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 9/32, 8/10 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 15ms
09:58 xenkey Woot its not segfaulted
09:59 Megaf_ !server Megaf
09:59 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
09:59 xenkey Players > ping
09:59 xenkey :)
10:00 exio4 I am gonna make my own server ...
10:00 exio4 ... with blackjack and hookers!
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10:01 Megaf_ xenkey: my ping used to be 2ms
10:01 Megaf_ or even 1ms sometimes
10:01 Megaf_ I dont know what happened
10:02 xenkey (Shrug)
10:02 xenkey Looks like players haven't changed
10:03 Megaf_ xenkey: players prefer messy servers with no rules and stupid people
10:03 xenkey Lol
10:04 Megaf_ it's quite "hard" to play on my server, long load media time, you must type a password and you dont have interact by default
10:04 Megaf_ that keeps 95% of players away
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10:04 xenkey Hm
10:05 Megaf_ and I don't care, I have some top level people palying there and some of them have become my friends
10:05 Megaf_ most people there are 35+ years old
10:05 xenkey Wow
10:05 sfan5 !server ping:most
10:05 MinetestBot sfan5: Mundo en Español | arg-team.ddns.net | Clients: 0/10, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest | Ping: 263ms
10:06 sfan5 thats quite some ping
10:06 Megaf_ we have and Electronics Engineer, an Aircract Mechanical Engineer, a person who takes care of elders and other very nice people
10:06 Megaf_ so yeah, fuck the large number of players
10:06 xenkey Lol
10:06 Calinou my server has mostly people who talk languages other than English :s
10:06 xenkey Well played
10:06 Calinou despite there being a rule to talk English in chat
10:06 Calinou (I revoked shout to someone due to that)
10:07 xenkey Same :(
10:07 Megaf_ and on my server you are free to speak any language you want
10:07 xenkey !server ping:least
10:07 MinetestBot xenkey: RND | server.neoascetic.me | Clients: 0/15, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 0ms
10:07 xenkey Quite a ping
10:07 Calinou !server ping:most
10:07 MinetestBot Calinou: Kleine Minenwelt | 80.128.166.130 | Clients: 1/12, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 361ms
10:08 Calinou australia for the win
10:08 xenkey Damn
10:09 Calinou http://149.91.81.111/map.png
10:09 Calinou server map
10:09 Megaf_ !server Megaf
10:09 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
10:10 Megaf_ ping increases by 2ms when compiling stuff
10:10 sfan5 https://com.google/
10:10 Calinou made it transparent, added origin and scale
10:11 Megaf_ sfan5: lol
10:11 Megaf_ well played google
10:11 OldCoder I might pay somebody to edit a cow
10:12 sfan5 google.172800INNSns-tld1.c​harlestonroadregistry.com.
10:12 OldCoder I need a space helmet added in Blender to the kpgmobs cow models
10:12 sfan5 charlestonroadregistry.com goes to http://www.google.com/registry/
10:12 sfan5 TIL google is a domain registrar
10:12 OldCoder I am adding cows today to Moontest to make MOOntest
10:12 Calinou this is recent
10:12 OldCoder It being April Fools Day. But the cows could stay if they had helmets.
10:13 Megaf_ lol OldCoder
10:13 Calinou !server Calinou
10:13 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 0/32, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms
10:13 OldCoder Their hide actually goes nicely with moondust
10:13 OldCoder They fit right in
10:13 OldCoder MOOoooon
10:13 Megaf_ Calinou: we need a map thing that uses the actual textures from nodes to make the map
10:14 Megaf_ Calinou: it would be cool a mapping tool that actually joined the server, with infinite view and stayed very high
10:14 Megaf_ or something like that
10:17 sfan5 google own com.google until next year mar32
10:17 sfan5 google own com.google until next year mar31
10:17 sfan5 owns*
10:17 Megaf_ nobody can buy a .google
10:18 sfan5 I'm aware
10:21 xenkey Lol
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10:35 Calinou Megaf_, it would spam the logs and waste resources and a slot :P
10:41 Megaf_ minetest@mt:~/worlds/world$ du -hs players/
10:41 Megaf_ 66Mplayers/
10:41 Megaf_ 66 MB of player files
10:44 Megaf_ well, we need a better mapper, I have some exotic mods on my server and the mapper cant see most of all mods
10:44 Megaf_ and using only a color for every item is not good nough either
10:44 Megaf_ enough*
10:45 * Megaf_ is deeply frustraded now
10:46 sfan5 Megaf_: you can generate a colors.txt with the mod you have installed
10:46 Megaf_ I wrote a beautiful script to update my server, several lines
10:46 Megaf_ full of variables and stuff
10:46 Megaf_ it was perfect
10:46 Megaf_ then I ran out of space and I lost the script
10:46 Megaf_ its blank now
10:50 Megaf_ rewriting
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11:12 Megaf_ Hi Zeno`
11:12 Zeno` howdy
11:13 Zeno` what's new?
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11:50 Megaf_ Zeno`: not much, I had some troubles before figuring out, with the help of Calinou that the default is not BUILD_SERVER=1
11:50 Megaf_ and I'm writing a script to make a fast and minimal server setup straight from github
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11:51 Megaf_ instead of just updating my server with git pull I will always do a fresh git clone
11:52 Megaf_ !server Megaf
11:52 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
11:52 Megaf_ this server is built using my script
11:53 Megaf_ minetest@mt:~$ ls BinMegafServer/
11:53 Megaf_ bin  builtin  debug.txt  games  minetest.conf  mods  worlds
11:53 Megaf_ games, minetest.conf, mods and worlds are symbolic links
11:54 Megaf_ bin and builtin are the only two real directories on the server dir
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12:04 PicklesRGood Hi.
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12:52 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: NetworkPacket: reading outside packet is now clearer. 113bdd3 http://git.io/jbUB (2015-04-01T14:47:46+02:00)
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13:06 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Move globals from main.cpp to more sane locations 9527984 http://git.io/jbqo (2015-04-01T23:04:25+10:00)
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13:19 Zeno` Megaf_, can I have privs please?
13:19 Megaf_ Yep, hold on
13:26 * Megaf_ gives privs to Zeno`
13:27 Zeno` hehe
13:27 Zeno` ok, it's connecting... will take ages
13:28 Zeno` brb... it'll take 10 minutes to connect anyway :)
13:28 Zeno` (not because of your server of course... because of the way I am running the client)
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14:19 Calinou !server Calinou
14:19 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 4/32, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
14:19 Calinou wee! it didn't crash
14:20 xenkey !server xenkey
14:20 MinetestBot xenkey: No results
14:20 xenkey !server Zenith
14:20 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 21/32, 11/21 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 17ms
14:20 xenkey It no know me
14:20 xenkey lol jesus christ
14:20 xenkey Did someone update the android version or something?
14:20 YvesLevier Hey - im in fool hurry - no time to search - plz how make bone powder for vegetation?   :)
14:20 xenkey google.com
14:20 xenkey or rather
14:20 xenkey com.google
14:21 YvesLevier Calinou: svp ^
14:21 Calinou no idea, sorry
14:21 YvesLevier How it is named?
14:22 YvesLevier maybe im thinking too much minecraft
14:22 Calinou bone meal?
14:22 YvesLevier yes
14:22 YvesLevier i want to change grass to vegetation
14:23 ElectronLibre Is that even possible with the mods/game you have? Check before.
14:24 ElectronLibre Because it may be something possible with a mod, but I've never heard anything about vegetation and Minetest Game.
14:24 YvesLevier ElectronLibre: Tex=VanE
14:24 YvesLevier mods?
14:25 ElectronLibre Oh, you're using DreamBuilder? Check the list of mods with /mods and see if there is any mod related to vegetation so you could start looking in it.
14:25 YvesLevier You mean this mod: [mod] plant aging library [0.1b] [plantaging]  ?
14:26 ElectronLibre Maybe I don't have the list of mods you're using.
14:27 ElectronLibre Have you got any craft guide mod installed?
14:28 YvesLevier I think so.  But VanE...   brb
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14:33 YvesLevier Does not exist yet as far i can see - will make it manualy
14:34 YvesLevier plz ping me if have a faster solution. Thx :)
14:34 ElectronLibre Ok.. Are you sure you have vegetation, are there any on the map?
14:34 YvesLevier Grass
14:34 YvesLevier mainly
14:34 ElectronLibre A part from looking into the mods' sources I don't see anything..
14:34 ElectronLibre Oh. You want to recreate grass.
14:35 ElectronLibre By default it's not possible, but I don't know if it's possible with your game ask VanessaE.
14:35 YvesLevier flat grass dont correspond to what im working on
14:35 YvesLevier Thx (merci) :)
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14:58 Calinou !server Calinou
14:58 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [FR] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 4/32, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
15:02 gamemanj ...Does anyone like ComputerCraft-style mods?
15:03 gamemanj (And does anyone know of any for Minetest?)
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15:15 nrzkt Megaf_ what is your OS ?
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15:21 xenkey gamemanj: Yeah
15:21 xenkey Mesecons Luacontrollers
15:21 xenkey And something in Fourth
15:21 xenkey The name novatux comes to mind but I cannot recall what the name of the mod was
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15:24 gamemanj_at_gith Xenkey: Luacontrollers don't use a interactive prompt. As for the Forth system, it looks quite nice.
15:24 xenkey Is an interactive prompt what you're after?
15:26 gamemanj_at_gith Xenkey: Yes.
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15:27 gamemanj_at_gith As much as I like realistic computers, though, I've noticed from Minecraft communities that people prefer Lua prompts.
15:28 gamemanj_at_gith (over Forth prompts or etc.)
15:28 Jordach_ gamemanj_at_gith, there's one in worldedit
15:28 Jordach_ (through worldedit gui)
15:28 gamemanj_at_gith Wouldn't that be unsandboxed?
15:28 Jordach_ no idea
15:29 Calinou it's for admins only
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15:30 gamemanj_at_gith ...So it would be kind of against the point. (Note: gamemanj==gamemanj_at_gith)
15:32 gamemanj_at_gith What I'm talking about is a player-accessible, heavily sandboxed lua prompt.
15:35 gamemanj ...I'm guessing none exists?
15:39 xenkey Probably not
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15:50 WSDguy2014 Hello guys, Can Download Default Texture Pack? Im making a Troll Texture Pack
15:51 gamemanj Look in the subgame you're making a texture pack for.
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15:56 Calinou it's in games/minetest_game/mods/default
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16:29 ozwald_ Hi!
16:29 gamemanj Hello.
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16:30 Megaf_ Hey
16:31 gamemanj ...This is going to become a neverending cascade, isn't it? Hello.
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16:31 gamemanj (people saying hello causing people to say hello causing people to say hello causing...etc)
16:32 Megaf_ well, no longer, you broke the cycle
16:34 VanessaE hello
16:34 VanessaE ;)
16:35 VanessaE perfect time for me to wander in
16:35 Megaf_ Yes it is :)
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16:48 someguy_irc .
16:48 someguy_irc Nvm.
16:49 * gamemanj is confused.
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17:01 Sokomine problem: when i click on the singleplayer tab, mt crashes. latest version
17:03 Sokomine no information available as to why. if i change my minetest.conf to let main_menu_tab = singleplayer, it crashes right after start. version is latest git
17:05 gamemanj Does debug.txt have anything?
17:06 Sokomine even debug_level 4 doesn't help much
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17:23 Krock Lovely, my 1st april joke works: http://nimg.pf-control.de/ (refresh if it looks correct)
17:24 gamemanj ftw, tahw si gniog no???
17:24 Krock Wonk T'nod I.
17:25 gamemanj at this rate, my head will snap off.
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17:26 Krock disappearing texts would be lovely aswell but some users have javascript disabled :(
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17:26 Jordach_ Krock, noice css
17:27 * gamemanj loses his head, because it snapped off from looking at up-side-down text
17:28 gamemanj Also, you might be able to (ab)use css transitions for disappearing text
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18:06 Hijiri I've played a bit of minetest, but I haven't tried writing any mods
18:06 Hijiri Does minetest community have arguments over licenses?
18:06 Hijiri that mods use
18:06 Calinou Hijiri, what do you mean exactly?
18:06 Hijiri like, would people avoid GPL mods or something
18:06 gamemanj Mods on minetest are closer to plugins than mods.
18:06 Hijiri or AGPL or whatever
18:06 Calinou there's no reason to
18:06 Hijiri ok
18:06 Calinou it is suggested you make your mod compatible with LGPLv2.1+
18:07 Calinou for inclusion into Minetest
18:07 Calinou but not mandatory
18:07 Hijiri alright
18:07 gamemanj Minetest mods don't actually involve modification, despite the name.
18:07 Calinou so, LGPLv3+ and GPLv2+/GPLv3+ are not compatible
18:07 Calinou as for media (textures/models/sounds), use CC BY-SA 3.0
18:07 Calinou or CC0 1.0 (public domain dedication)
18:07 Calinou gamemanj, we could call them add-ons or modules
18:07 Hijiri What kind of mods are more likely to get included?
18:07 Calinou mods can also mean modules
18:07 Calinou in Linux, it means modules, not modifications
18:08 Calinou Hijiri, mods that follow the KISS principle and are useful to most users
18:08 michou WTFPL is a nice license too :>
18:09 Hijiri So things that would make sense to have in the "default" game?
18:09 Hijiri for the "useful to most users" part
18:09 Calinou michou, it's not recommended because it lacks warranty disclaimer, and contains strong language
18:09 Calinou CC0 is way better in that regard that is real public domain dedication, and when not possible, has a license fallback
18:09 Calinou that's why CC0 is called a waiver, more than a license
18:10 Calinou Hijiri, yes
18:10 Calinou definitely
18:10 gamemanj Calinou: I actually managed to completely mess up a mod release thanks to using WTFPL.
18:10 Hijiri ok, thanks for the help
18:10 gamemanj Made the mistake of telling a family member...who got really scared about the informal language...
18:10 gamemanj And insisted I change license to Apache.
18:10 Sokomine servers and players usually select the mods they like. i consider minetest_game to be just the common base which you extend with your prefered mods
18:10 Calinou Apache isn't compatible with LGPLv2.1+, so it's not recommended for Minetest mods
18:11 gamemanj Post-release. Yeah, it didn't end well.
18:11 gamemanj Suffice to say, I generally consider the whole thing a mess.
18:11 Krock Somehow I like BSD 3-Clause for its simplyness
18:12 Sokomine if you're the original author, you can release what you wrote under whatever liscence you feel up to...even under diffrent liscences
18:12 gamemanj ...Considering the mod wasn't that popular, there'd be no point re-releasing anyway.
18:13 Calinou Krock, MIT is preferable because there's no confusion about number of clauses :P
18:13 Calinou keep trying :P
18:13 Sokomine hard to tell if it was popular or not. there will most likely be people out there who'll like it (provided they even know about it)
18:14 gamemanj ...Well, it was a mod which added programmable robots. They didn't work on Lua or anything,
18:14 gamemanj I considered Lua to be too hard for people not into programming.
18:14 Calinou any language will be
18:14 Sokomine hmm. but why won't my mt start up correctly anymore? this is really odd...
18:14 Calinou Lua is one of the easiest “real” languages
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18:14 michou what about logic bricks *I'm already out*
18:14 gamemanj Let me grab a screenshot of the programming interface...
18:14 Sokomine gamemanj: there was some talk about robots. i'm pretty sure there *will* be people who like them
18:15 gamemanj Ah, this will work.
18:15 gamemanj https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720​/do_not_delete_screenshot_for_mt_forums.png
18:15 Sokomine afaik someone asked about how to program a robot on this particular chat some time ago...
18:17 Calinou https://github.com/mashlol/mintr
18:17 Calinou cool, might run this on my server
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18:19 Krock2 c'mon, time out!
18:19 Calinou http://mt.nerdpol.ovh:3000/
18:19 Krock2 +0 ?
18:20 gamemanj Did you really get that running that quickly,Calinou?
18:20 Calinou yes
18:20 Calinou My Little Node: npm is Magic
18:20 gamemanj Yes. Yes, it is.
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18:23 gamemanj Who likes sandboxing Lua?
18:25 jin_xi i prefer mud wrestling
18:27 Krock gamemanj, when is a box a sandbox?
18:27 gamemanj ...when it's filled with sand...?
18:29 * gamemanj is confused for the second time today.
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18:32 Kcork gamemanj, why are you Desufnoc?
18:32 Calinou !server Calinou
18:32 Kcork MTB is not here
18:32 * gamemanj is now even more confused.
18:33 Kcork Sometimes I tsuj flip a drow backwards
18:33 Kcork kinda ynnuf to daer
18:34 gamemanj I am confused about the question "when is a box a sandbox?"
18:35 Kcork The idea is gnitseretni but I'm not sure if it's required
18:36 gamemanj ...Is that referring to sandboxes or my confusion?
18:36 gamemanj Or boxes in general?
18:36 Hijiri what about boxing?
18:37 Kcork gamemanj, yes, refered to boxes, filled with samd
18:37 Kcork *sand
18:37 gamemanj Error: attempted to index nil. stack traceback: ../mods/ircbot/concepts.lua
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18:37 gamemanj Please contact a administrator.
18:37 gamemanj (Of me. meaning me.)
18:38 gamemanj (Hang on, but that's supposedly failed...Great, I've confused myself while reporting that I'm confused)
18:38 Kcork (How about giving us the source code to help you finding the problem?)
18:38 gamemanj Concepts.lua contains one line: "(nil):cause_a_indexing_error()"
18:39 gamemanj (Note: The above lua error is a joke.)
18:39 gamemanj (And thus any source reported for it is also a joke.)
18:39 Kcork Almost thought it would be something like a "throw new Exception()"
18:40 gamemanj That would just be a syntax error.
18:40 gamemanj Did you mean error("attempted to index nil")?
18:41 Kcork Doesn't matter. I spoke in C#
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18:52 Sokomine hmm. i've renamed the games folder. maybe there's something wrong with my local games...although why that ought to lead to a crash of the game seems mysterious
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20:36 xenkey My players didn't quite understand the joke when I said I was shutting down the server.
20:37 gamemanj Well, it's just a *little* bit late for that...(here it's 9:37 PM)
20:37 xenkey here too :^)
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20:46 gamemanj ...I have a mod that you might want to test. No textures, yet. Node descriptions are "Computer" and "Digiline Memory".
20:46 gamemanj https://dl.dropboxusercontent.c​om/u/21184720/luacomputing.zip
20:46 gamemanj Best used with Digilines, else you can't have a program execute on startup since there's nothing to boot from.
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21:03 ACSpike[Laptop] Hi, I'm trying to install the animals modpack for my kids. If this is a modpack, does that mean that all of these directories need to be direectly in the mods dir?
21:03 ACSpike[Laptop] rather than in an animals_modpack dir in mods?
21:03 gamemanj Nope, just drop in the animals_modpack folder.
21:03 ACSpike[Laptop] ok
21:03 * ACSpike[Laptop] tries
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21:15 ACSpike[Laptop] argh, my version of minetest isn't new enough for animals I guess.
21:15 ACSpike[Laptop] is it hard to build?
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21:20 sfan5 ACSpike[Laptop]: nope, it isn't hard to compile minetest
21:24 ACSpike[Laptop] hmm, i thought I found a ppa, but it doesn't seem to work. maybe difference between Ubuntu 14.04.1 and 14.04.2?
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21:25 ACSpike[Laptop] nevermind. forgot to update
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21:32 blackpenguin hi. trying to setup a server, but for some reasons tnt doesn't appear - it's neither craftable nor does it appear in menu in creative mode. Am I missing something?
21:34 jin_xi tnt is disabled in multiplayer unless you add some config option
21:35 jin_xi setting is called enable_tnt
21:35 jin_xi alternatively edit tnt mod
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21:45 blackpenguin thanks, jin_xi
22:00 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Treegen: Add pine tree. Force place trunks 74eb14c http://git.io/jpkb (2015-04-01T22:54:49+01:00)
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22:10 ACSpike[Laptop] now that I installed a new minetest from ppa the moreores mod installed via the default repos doesn't seem to be seen
22:10 ACSpike[Laptop] is there a way I can configure minetest to also look in the directories that the default repo minetest uses?
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23:30 WarrTab We should stop using the WTFPL, as it's too restrictive.
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23:37 xenkey I agree
23:38 WarrTab WTFPL only allows you to do what you want with the software.
23:38 WarrTab There's no explicit permission to do things you might need to do, but now want to.
23:45 xennex Sorry april fools ended ages ago
23:48 WarrTab Not foolin'
23:49 WarrTab A lot of projects require licenses that grant certain specific permissions; WTFPL falls short in many cases.

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