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00:34 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: default/mapgen.lua: Register mgv6 decorations ccb4b92 http://git.io/jc2b (2015-03-27T00:29:44Z)
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01:41 tim_flatus I'm still struggling to get these form tabs working :/
01:42 tim_flatus Also what does 'prepend' mean in the context of listelements?
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02:07 tim_flatus I tried prepending them with #RRGGBB and  it didn't work.
02:09 tim_flatus The form itself works fine
02:10 tim_flatus It's just the minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields() to catch the tab clicks I'm having problems with
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02:42 exio4 Megaf_: I don't trust that binary, sowwy :p
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06:20 fuznuts anyone here spend a lot of time building actual structures in minetest that are usable on personal servers?
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08:12 fuznuts_ anyone here spend a lot of time building actual structures in minetest that are usable on personal servers?
08:12 ekem what does that mean
08:12 nrzkt what do you mean ?
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08:56 PicklesRGood Someone help i just finished watching season 3 episode 3 of sherlock
08:56 PicklesRGood I'm literly crying right now
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09:57 Megaf_ [08:56:08] <PicklesRGood> Someone help i just finished watching season 3 episode 3 of sherlock
09:57 Megaf_ [08:56:43] <PicklesRGood> I'm literly crying right now
09:57 Megaf_ What was that?
09:57 Megaf_ Hi everyone
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10:16 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Theatre Day! :-D
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10:58 Megaf_ Happy day for you too :)
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13:27 WSDguy2014 Hello guys, how create texture pack?
13:28 Calinou WSDguy2014, make your own .png (preferred) or .jpg images, put them into Minetest/textures/yourname
13:28 Calinou then select the pack in the options
13:29 WSDguy2014 example default_stone.png?
13:29 Calinou yes
13:29 Calinou can be any size, powers of two are preferred
13:30 Calinou default is 16², you can use anything, avoid going over 256² though
13:30 Calinou (slow)
13:30 WSDguy2014 ok, im gonna try it
13:30 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=9428
13:30 Calinou try this as a template
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13:43 WSDguy2014 thanks Calinou
13:45 WSDguy2014 i created texture X-Ray cheat
13:46 Calinou we should probably prevent it in core
13:46 Calinou ie. make transparent pixels black on solid nodes, when provided by texture packs
13:46 Calinou although that's weak and can be removed
13:49 YvesLevier Is that true than Minetest core may be changed without consideration of mods and textures not documented in Sourceforge?
13:49 sfan5 Calinou: thats stupid
13:49 sfan5 YvesLevier: sourceforge?
13:52 YvesLevier What i understood about sourceforge.net is that all documentation about developments in open source is assembled there.  Apparenty (as far i understood) is that help Ubuntu community to work along.  ie.  mods that dont fit textures, etc.
13:53 YvesLevier Personaly i keep my old sources in sure backups, in case of...
13:54 sfan5 sourceforge is a project hosting site
13:54 YvesLevier Im wondering about my Windows clients...
13:54 YvesLevier yes
13:54 sfan5 like google code, github or bitbucket
13:54 sfan5 it's not a central place for anything
13:55 srifqi I prefer git-based
13:56 YvesLevier work isnt more documented in Sourceforge?  And why use many sites instead to assemble in only one?
13:56 YvesLevier Trying to understand.  No offence.
13:58 Hirato_ because people develop their mods wherever they feel like doing it, that is all :P
13:59 YvesLevier Getting a better seen.  Thx :)
14:00 xenkey Yo
14:00 sfan5 YvesLevier: centralisation is not a very good idea, especially when there is one entity doing everything
14:01 YvesLevier Hi xenkey
14:01 YvesLevier sfan5: Interesting point. Thx
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14:30 Calinou it's already centralized on GitHub, YvesLevier
14:30 YvesLevier Calinou: Merci :)
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15:03 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=ne​ws_item&amp;px=NVIDIA-OpenGL-Finger-Demo
15:04 est31 Calinou, now your notabug thingy shines with proper service :)
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15:04 est31 not interesting enough for chinese yet?
15:04 Calinou est31, hmm, why
15:04 Calinou I don't understand what you mean about notabug
15:05 est31 http://insight-labs.org/?p=1682
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15:09 Calinou oh, yeah, I know about the GitHub DDoS
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15:30 xenkey Do I need any other dependencies except cmake and irrlicht headers for building a server?
15:35 Calinou xenkey, yes, Lua and LuaJIT
15:38 xenkey Calinou: What are the packages for LuaJIT, LevelDB and Redis for Debian and Arch ?
15:38 xenkey Do I need the development packages?
15:38 Calinou yes
15:38 Calinou sudo apt-get install libhiredis-dev libluajit-5.1-dev libleveldb-dev
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15:42 xenkey What about gettext/freetype?
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15:53 est31 I guess you need gettext
15:53 est31 but freetype... no I think
15:57 sfan5 xenkey: you don't need any additionaly dependencies to build a server, luajit and leveldb is good idea however
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16:38 neuron_ does someone know what happened to rnd's LAB server?
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16:57 Calinou new script: https://gist.github.com/Ca​linou/93938dc92484bc5e89f0
17:01 Calinou made the same one for SVN
17:02 VanessaE Calinou: I have a similar one for the purpose
17:03 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/PJ3q2R3B  in case you're curious
17:03 VanessaE (overkill of course)
17:03 VanessaE (probably uses git wrongly but it works :) )
17:05 Sokomine neuron: yesterday, it was up and using diffrent textures
17:06 Sokomine doesn't anyone want to write a .we to .mts converter?
17:06 * Sokomine looks around hopefully
17:07 * VanessaE holds a mirror up to Sokomine
17:07 Sokomine VanessaE: ah :-) so you call your mods my_mods as well. and your update-script is more versatile then mine. i add mods manually to it
17:07 Sokomine hmpf!
17:07 VanessaE haha
17:08 Sokomine we don't have mirrors in minetest! you can't use that! :)
17:08 VanessaE maybe it's an opengl mirror ;)
17:08 * Sokomine stares at the mirror and wonders if it works
17:09 VanessaE > The mirror stares back at you.  What'chy lookin' at, Sokomine?!
17:09 * Sokomine suspects that the mirror is a mob
17:14 Sokomine ups? my traders became invisible? did the model for the player change?
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17:22 VanessaE Calinou: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=174109#p174109
17:22 Calinou I know :/
17:22 Calinou I know why it happens
17:22 VanessaE fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it  :)
17:23 Calinou busy right now
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17:28 Sokomine ah yes, that bug puzzled me as well. got some tiny glass slabs that where invisible
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17:43 Sokomine hi twoelk
17:43 twoelk hi
17:43 * twoelk is dreaming of reflections in minetest
17:45 Calinou it is possible, we have full GLSL shaders support
17:45 Calinou just write it :)
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17:47 twoelk I once followed a link that mauvebic gave me and played a demogame based on Irrlicht that indeed had mirrors. If I could only remember what game that was.
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17:57 twoelk Calinou, I was wondering wether something like this http://www.mediawiki.org/w​iki/Extension:CategoryTree might be usable for the minetest wikis
17:57 Calinou I can't install extensions AFAIK
17:57 Calinou else I'd already have installed a visual editor :D
17:57 Calinou great for editing tables
17:59 twoelk yeah, I created some tables withother tools and then readded them to the minetest wiki. pretty cumbersome to change large data amounts
18:03 twoelk http://www.tablesgenerator.com/mediawiki_tables <- for example
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18:04 harrison you know, IRC was a lot cooler back in what we old-timers used to call "the day"
18:06 xenkey What packages are required for building on Debian?
18:06 Calinou https://gist.github.com/Calinou/
18:06 Calinou oops
18:06 Calinou sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev libjsoncpp-dev
18:07 xenkey Sorry I meant headless
18:07 xenkey Server only
18:07 Calinou try compiling, and see what's missing.
18:07 Calinou then install packages as needed
18:07 Calinou use -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 of course
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18:29 Warr1024 Whatever happened to RealBadAngel?
18:31 VanessaE disappeared
18:31 VanessaE too busy with work and life, apparently
18:31 Warr1024 aw
18:31 Warr1024 I just read about FXAA
18:31 Warr1024 and it looks pretty awesome
18:32 Warr1024 and apparently it's supposed to be implemented as a shader post-processing between the 3D draw and HUD parts of the pipeline
18:32 Warr1024 which sounds like something that might be feasible for MT, if the algos are public anywhere.
18:32 Warr1024 sounded like something RBA would have been interested in :-)
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18:46 Calinou there are tons of public algos
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18:46 Calinou Tesseract (and its fork OctaForge) implement it using shaders
18:49 Warr1024 oh, so it might even be something that could be merged from downstream?  that'd be pretty awesome...
18:50 Calinou they are not forks of Minetest
18:50 Calinou they are separate games
18:50 Calinou http://tesseract.gg/
18:50 Calinou http://octaforge.org
18:50 Warr1024 oh, you said "its fork" and I misread it as "his fork"
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19:04 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Clean up and tweak build system 93fcab9 http://git.io/j40W (2015-03-27T15:00:48-04:00)
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19:10 Cidraque hi :)
19:11 Cidraque VanessaE: :)
19:13 Cidraque there are a "respawn" command?
19:14 VanessaE on some servers you can do  /spawn
19:15 Cidraque I'm trapped in a bug or something
19:15 Cidraque :(
19:16 Cidraque walls are light grey and can't move
19:16 VanessaE sign out and sign back in
19:16 Calinou disconnect and reconnect
19:16 Cidraque and when I try /spawn says "issued command"
19:16 Cidraque Calinou:  no effect :(
19:17 Cidraque It's the VanessaE creative (I think) server
19:17 VanessaE Cidraque: keep trying.
19:17 VanessaE it's a bug in the engine.
19:18 Cidraque VanessaE:  OMG,ok I wanna erase and reinstall
19:18 VanessaE no
19:18 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Fix MSVC compile error 3d53c90 http://git.io/j4Vf (2015-03-27T15:16:41-04:00)
19:18 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Document nil player as being allowed for can_dig e680d49 http://git.io/j4VJ (2015-03-27T15:11:28-04:00)
19:18 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo in OpenGL ES 2 CMake file 393722a http://git.io/j4VU (2015-03-27T15:10:27-04:00)
19:18 VanessaE it's a bug on my end.
19:18 VanessaE I mean, in the server software.
19:18 Cidraque ok, I take a look
19:19 Cidraque I can't understand it xD
19:19 Cidraque I'm so sorry
19:20 Cidraque What can I do?
19:23 Sokomine what can't you understand?
19:25 Cidraque Sokomine:  nothing
19:25 Cidraque yes, shame on me, I'm a windows guy
19:25 Cidraque I see the error it's on opengl so I changed the render to direct3d and I thing the issue it's resolved
19:25 Calinou you should never use Direct3D for Minetest
19:26 Calinou it's completely unsupported
19:26 Calinou try updating your drivers instead
19:26 Cidraque I used opengl
19:26 Cidraque opengl give me this error
19:26 Cidraque gave*
19:26 Cidraque sorry I know a very little of english
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19:28 Cidraque finally I go out of the cave :D
19:28 Cidraque oh my gosh
19:29 Sokomine indeed :-) shame on you :)
19:30 * Sokomine throws an usb stick with linux on it to cidraque as a means of rescue
19:30 Cidraque very funny :|
19:35 Krock <Cidraque>opengl give me this error
19:35 Krock which error?
19:35 Cidraque trapped in a cabe, with light gray walls
19:36 Cidraque cave*
19:36 Cidraque it's a bug in the server of VanessaE  she said
19:38 Cidraque it's ok
19:38 Cidraque thanks
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19:50 barrydk Hi everyone. Can someone please give me interact privs on Vanessa's survival server user name is barry. Thanks
19:50 VanessaE barrydk: done.
19:51 barrydk Thanks, by the way thanks for your great work VanessaE
19:51 hmmmm nzrkt:  so this was my situation
19:51 VanessaE barrydk: yw :)
19:52 hmmmm i have this hard drive with ZFS v28, which is the only vdev in the pool.  freebsd 9.1 is installed on here
19:52 hmmmm i got a new hard drive that I installed fedora 21 with ext4 on
19:52 hmmmm and the plan was to mount this ZFS-formatted disk while booted in linux and copy over my configuration files
19:52 hmmmm I don't know if this is a zfs problem or a ZFSonLinux problem but
19:53 nrzkt ZoL is not ready for production yet as i tested
19:53 hmmmm i mounted it with zpool import -f -o readonly=on zpool
19:53 hmmmm it mounts, but all the files have no permissions and are owned by root:root !!
19:54 hmmmm so I go to copy it anyway, fix the permissions, fix the ownership, fix any absolute paths that might have /usr/home instead of /home
19:54 nrzkt oO this is a problem on ZoL, it's sure,  the FS layer didn't know about the UID on ZFS
19:54 hmmmm and like 1/2 of the applications were either broken or didn't recognize my previous config files
19:54 hmmmm oh there's a UUID too?  :/
19:54 hmmmm great
19:54 exio4 user ID?
19:54 hmmmm oh sorry
19:54 hmmmm UID
19:54 nrzkt the user id :)
19:54 hmmmm yeah the UIDs aren't the same
19:55 hmmmm on linux my uid is 1000, on here it's 1001
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19:55 hmmmm don't know if that caused the problem
19:55 nrzkt ZoL didn't read it properly. And after when you reboot on FreeBSD the UID aren't altered ?
19:55 hmmmm of course not, that's because I imported it as readonly
19:55 nrzkt right
19:55 hmmmm didn't want to screw anything up
19:55 nrzkt you use ZoL with fuse ?
19:55 hmmmm hrmm I don't knoqw
19:56 hmmmm didn't remmeber seeing any fusefs-related text when installing it
19:56 hmmmm I got like 100 MB/s transfers though, if it were fuse then it'd be a lot slower, wouldn't it?
19:57 nrzkt the only thing possible is that ZoL didn't know how to read UID on zfs datasets and then map it to root, like it does when you mount NTFS partitions
19:57 hmmmm well I imported it as the root user
19:57 nrzkt right, it's a bit slower because of the abstraction layer
19:58 hmmmm so
19:58 hmmmm nothing really was working right on linux
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19:58 nrzkt maybe it could work better if you migrate to FreeBSD 9.3 and migrate your zpool and zfs datasets to get features enabled, but it's a pure supposition
19:58 hmmmm i'm not sure exactly what caused it, but after installing a bunch of things I couldn't log in through gdm anymore
19:58 nrzkt Fedora is not a good distro for hackers, use Archlinux instead :)
19:59 hmmmm and then i realized that linux isn't all that great
19:59 hmmmm you've got systemd nonsense, gnome-shell, etc.
19:59 exio4 I wouldn't recommend archlinux if he is looking for something that is somewhat stable
19:59 hmmmm linux won't really bring me many advantages either
19:59 exio4 hmmmm: systemd nonsense? but it rocks! it does everything!
19:59 nrzkt FreeBSD problem is the graphical layer, which is not ready for gaming, like Steam on Linux, it's the only reason why i'm archlinux
19:59 Calinou systemd is great, there are other DEs than GNOME
20:00 Calinou nrzkt, you don't need Steam to play games
20:00 Calinou I don't use Steam
20:00 Calinou and I'm a gamer
20:00 hmmmm systemd is horrible
20:00 exio4 "systemd is great"
20:00 exio4 nice joke Calinou
20:00 exio4 tell us another one
20:00 hmmmm it's a huge security concern
20:00 Calinou it boots very fast
20:00 Calinou which is what it was made for
20:00 nrzkt i use windows for real gaming experience, i hope in 3-4 years this will change Calinou. And i'm not playing only minetest or supertux kart, i talk about some good games like Civilization :p
20:00 exio4 that argument feels like "mongodb is web scale"
20:00 Calinou so you're developing a bad game?
20:01 Calinou exio4, Lichess uses MongoDB :P
20:01 exio4 !g mongodb is webscale
20:01 MinetestBot exio4: http://www.mongodb-is-web-scale.com/
20:01 exio4 Calinou: ^
20:01 nrzkt systemd is great in my point of view, because Linux ecosystem needs to be chained to one good init system, not many init systems with many apis
20:01 hmmmm yeah but systemd is forcing gnome as a dependency for everything
20:01 hmmmm so linux as a whole will be chained to red hat
20:01 est31 so you want to only have the choice between glibc and glibc?
20:01 Calinou software monocultures are never a good thing
20:02 Calinou we're having Git near-monopoly right now
20:02 Calinou it probably won't end well
20:02 nrzkt i want to have choice between FreeBSD or Linux, but not 50 Linuxes it's a pain for everybody.
20:02 est31 git is a simple tool like less or more.
20:02 hmmmm I was planning on swapping out systemd for runit
20:02 nrzkt subversion has ended, without offline commits it's useless
20:03 nrzkt openrc ?
20:03 hmmmm yeah, it's like that
20:03 Calinou there should be several distributions, always
20:03 Calinou there are several BSDs here too
20:03 Calinou est31, there's Mercurial as competitor
20:03 Calinou barely used
20:03 nrzkt Debian, Redhat, Gentoo, Suse and Archlinux. Others distros must disappear :p
20:03 exio4 ehm, no? systemd is great at rewriting software that works, replacing it with broken-in-any-nontrivial-environment, and it is also controversial in the sense that we now have either those broken "amazing things" from systemd or "things that work" that you can't use easily because you have to use the systemd version
20:03 exio4 nrzkt: I don't think so
20:04 Calinou nrzkt, Fedora and Ubuntu won't disappear anytime soon.
20:04 exio4 nrzkt: there are distros out there that try to be, not "general purpose", but for specific use caes
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20:04 hmmmm i assume red hat includes fedora in his list
20:04 hmmmm hrmm
20:04 VanessaE nrzkt: no love for good old Slackware?
20:04 hmmmm slackware is a systemd holdout
20:04 exio4 Slackware isn't hipster, it is not using systemd
20:04 nrzkt in fact exio4, trivial... no, hacky, yes. I think the systemd init system is good because it's a common API instead of shell. But the best inits (except for boot times) are BSD's because they use a good API to write minimal shells (better than LSB)
20:04 est31 Calinou, I know there are many competitors, like eg bazaar, but currently I like that its distributed VCS, dont need more. Also, git is a very simple tool, not as complex as a whole init system.
20:05 VanessaE neither is Gentoo, last I heard?
20:05 nrzkt VanessaE: okay for Slackware :p
20:05 exio4 VanessaE: shush, I need a reason to be ironic
20:05 nrzkt then hmmmm: for your ZFS problem: destroy your linux, :p
20:06 exio4 the problem is that systemd's "init system" is like 5% of it
20:06 hmmmm still haven't decided how I'm going to do this
20:06 hmmmm either install it all on a new hard drive or do a reinstall in-place here
20:08 nrzkt why not using an ext2 partition for your shared datas ?
20:08 Calinou ext2?!
20:08 Calinou in 2015?
20:08 nrzkt freebsd uses ext2 layer
20:09 VanessaE eek
20:09 VanessaE may as well use FAT32 at that point.
20:09 nrzkt if you want to use ext on FreeBSD
20:09 nrzkt FAT32 doesn't support rights :p
20:09 hmmmm i'm going to keep ZFS i think
20:09 nrzkt of you can use UFS2 and mount it on Linux
20:10 hmmmm i'm not using linux anymore
20:10 hmmmm it was a mistake
20:10 hmmmm at the time it just seemed like it was so much more stable and modern than freebsd but it's not true
20:10 hmmmm nothing "just works"
20:11 nrzkt or you can use Linux in BHyve
20:11 nrzkt my Android instance for Jenkins is a Debian on BHyVe
20:12 nrzkt it's not as friendly as a KVM + Libvirt but it works :p
20:12 exio4 the biggest reason (for me) for using fbsd is zfs
20:13 nrzkt if you only know about FreeBSD for ZFS it's a mistake, because you could use openindiana :p
20:13 nrzkt FreeBSD is more than ZFS :p
20:13 exio4 I know
20:14 exio4 I said biggest, not only nrzkt
20:14 hmmmm the hardware support is starting to get pretty bad
20:14 hmmmm like consider this situation:
20:14 nrzkt the biggest reason for using FreeBSD: the community and the developers. FreeBSD isn't an enterprise and not managed by enterprises, they can do what they want, and they do it well
20:15 hmmmm nv is a placeholder driver for nvidia that's not supported any more
20:15 hmmmm but nvidia dropped support for any cards below fermi
20:15 hmmmm so now it's like
20:16 hmmmm there's no option
20:16 hmmmm you either run an outdated version of the nvidia proprietary driver or nothing at all
20:16 est31 I'm using a community-led desktop environment on top of the most popular unix non-mac desktop distro, which ensures hundreds of users had my issue before I have it, so they are filtered.
20:16 exio4 hmmmm: there is a reason I am still using linux
20:16 hmmmm not even vesa works
20:16 hmmmm yeah that's a good reason
20:16 est31 or at least workarounds available
20:17 nrzkt hmmmm: AMD changes their mind and now opensource their development, it's well supported on FreeBSD
20:17 hmmmm yeah i mentioned that some time ago
20:17 hmmmm "gosh it seems like AMD is better supported than nvidia these days"
20:18 hmmmm i think my next card might be an AMD
20:18 hmmmm they have real support for >2 monitors
20:19 exio4 I still need money for the HDDs :(
20:19 nrzkt yeah :) my 7970 supports 6 monitors
20:19 hmmmm this gtx660 supports up to 4 in theory
20:19 exio4 I won't be able to have my dream setup til I spend 400~ USD
20:20 VanessaE my R9 280X does well on the two I have, though X is not known for its stability
20:20 hmmmm but if you plug more than 2 in, the gpu clock speeds rise and it sucks up 50% more memory
20:20 hmmmm errm
20:20 hmmmm electricity
20:20 exio4 can't you force it to downclock?
20:20 hmmmm nope
20:21 exio4 err
20:21 exio4 that doesn't sound that nice
20:21 hmmmm I think you're able to if you add some settings to xorg.conf, but reportedly what happens is you get insane tearing on one of your three monitors
20:22 hmmmm so that's why I went with the workaround of having two monitors on the gtx660 and one on an 8400gs
20:22 hmmmm but as of nvidia 340.00, they dropped support for that
20:22 hmmmm and you can't have two versions of the nvidia driver loaded at once
20:22 hmmmm so the next idea is to have nv loaded
20:23 hmmmm can't use it, there's some sort of crazy error i can't find any help with
20:23 hmmmm i ask about it in ##freebsd and they say, "why don't you just use the proprietary driver?"
20:23 hmmmm vesa gives some kind of bullshit error too
20:24 hmmmm i specifically bought the GTX660 because it was the first of the Kepler series, and kepler was supposed to support more than 2 monitors
20:24 hmmmm before that I ran the 8400gs for two of the displays, and then i had an ati rage XL for the IRC display
20:25 hmmmm everything is a workaround for a workaround for a workaround
20:26 Calinou nv is unmaintained?
20:27 Calinou no one seriously uses nv in 2015 :P
20:27 Calinou nouveau is ten times better
20:27 exio4 fbsd Calinou
20:27 exio4 inb4 "bsd user problems"
20:29 exio4 the sad part in my setup is that I can only have six [HS]DDs in my case
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20:45 Calinou I can have 8 here, but what's the point…
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21:06 Calinou http://opengameart.org/content/496-pi​xel-art-icons-for-medievalfantasy-rpg
21:06 Calinou might be of use to modders
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21:55 * JeDa saluda!
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22:38 YvesLevier Plz.  Is there a way to get rid of a cart?  I tried all.  Even on Lava, it stays over.
22:39 YvesLevier of course i tried right click in order to get it back in my inventory but....   it get in
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22:48 est31 shift click?
22:48 est31 I dunno too
22:48 est31 carts are weird stuff
22:49 est31 stupid laggy vehicles. lets hope kwolekr does the RPC stuff
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22:56 luizrpgluiz hi
22:57 exio4 !tell calinou redundancy, one (or half) of your disks could die tomorrow and now what, good luck with that (also, 8 is the 'limit' of my mobo, but I am only counting what would be for data)
22:57 MinetestBot exio4: I'll pass that on when calinou is around
23:04 sofar I just had to switch to nouveau as my 9800GT hangs entirely with the 340.x driver series
23:04 exio4 nouveau is pretty suck performance wise :(
23:05 exio4 sucky *
23:07 sofar I'm so fedup with closed source drivers
23:07 sofar my next system will be Intel GFX (DISCLAIMER: I WORK FOR INTEL) for sure
23:08 sofar exio4: all those nights attempting to fix my binary driver after a kernel upgrade... NOT worth my time
23:08 exio4 you work for intel?
23:08 exio4 I don't like you anymore!
23:08 * exio4 is an amd fanboy :P
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23:09 sofar congratulations, you're unique and there's not many of you
23:09 sofar exio4: I do open source for Intel exclusively, the folks who make the hardware don't really listen to me :)
23:10 exio4 I know :P
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23:25 Jordach i like AMD's GPUs
23:25 Jordach and yet the R9 290x still outclasses the 980 by far
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23:32 exio4 Jordach: I like AMD GPUs because they don't suck while using opensource drivers
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23:35 paxcoder hey. so did anyone make a fractal-based land"gen" yet?
23:37 twoelk ask proller :P
23:38 paxcoder twoelk, he doesn't appear to be here. What can you tell me about it?
23:42 twoelk there used to be a math mapgen. He used that for the servers "road" and "4circles" iirc
23:42 neuron_ yay rnd is back online *_*
23:43 paxcoder twoelk, did it work ok? Was the database size measured in kilobytes?
23:44 twoelk proller works on the freeminer fork. I don't know wether freeminer still uses some math mapgen
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23:45 twoelk uhm, I climbed the 4circles map to a hight of 800m or more and travelled several km on the road map
23:47 paxcoder twoelk, aaand?
23:48 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8951 <- four circles with overview map
23:48 paxcoder will check, thanks
23:48 paxcoder Is the author of the uranium technic feature on any of the PVP servers? I'd like to kill him repeatedly until I've generated enough for a reactor (so for a few months).
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23:49 paxcoder twoelk, wait, what's the point of that link?
23:51 twoelk might have missunderstood. this was the mapgen I was reffering to https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=7256
23:52 twoelk the 4circles map was highly 3 dimensional. that overview map only shows the lowest ring near the surface
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23:55 paxcoder :/
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23:58 paramat proller's fractal mapgens have been developed further in freeminer

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