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01:19 fireglow weird message in the server log: [string "interrupt(1)..."]:5: ')' expected near '::'
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01:47 fireglow ah, that might have come from meseons, luacontroller
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04:11 fireglow ShadowNinja: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=173580#p173580 for your consideration =)
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04:17 hmmmm i think we should think about a better ABM mechanism
04:18 hmmmm there's no way that a 2 block radius from the player is the best we can do when it comes to running very simple checks on an area of nodes
04:19 fireglow hmmmm, hmmmm! :)
04:19 fireglow I agree
04:20 hmmmm that's feedback i've gotten from an IRL friend who got hooked onto minetest
04:21 hmmmm "everything's awesome, except it doesn't make sense that a furnace stops working when I move a little bit away from it"
04:21 hmmmm this is the sentiment of the average player
04:42 exio4 hmmmm: IIRC there is a setting for that radius
04:43 hmmmm sure but the point is that it should be less cpu intensive to begin with so it doesn't need to be set so low by default
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05:01 exio4 yeah
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07:01 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix some loose ends from 3993093f 761b127 http://git.io/hyMQ (2015-03-22T02:58:54-04:00)
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07:06 PicklesRGood Hi everyone... okay so yeah ,hi.
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07:39 hmmmm well, pickles are good
07:39 hmmmm you've gotta give him that much
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09:06 Krock moin
09:07 nrzkt 185 installations on play store, gg :)
09:11 Calinou only? :/
09:11 Calinou we ought to get 500 at least
09:14 blaze link
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09:56 blaze i see only 35
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10:16 nrzkt https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF
10:16 Krock 2 days ago
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10:20 nrzkt yeah, play store stats works like this
10:21 YvesLevier looking at that!
10:21 YvesLevier Hey :)
10:22 YvesLevier Rounded, it looks exponential
10:24 YvesLevier You want i make a projection in future using matrix inversion?
10:24 YvesLevier Having tools for this
10:25 YvesLevier Tools that had abandoned Windows.  Unix only.
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10:26 neoascetic Hi all. If this is possible to generate a single big continent with small amount of islands around it and the ocean everywhere else?
10:27 Krock yes sure
10:28 neoascetic Krock can you please provide an example of mapgen params/seed?
10:28 Krock could be a bit complicated if you want to reah that with mgvX
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10:28 Krock *rech
10:28 Krock *reach, damn you keyboard
10:29 Krock neoascetic, better use a lua mapgen
10:29 neoascetic Ok, I thought it is possible with mapgen only
10:30 Krock lua mapgen is mapgen
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10:48 Krock !tell Jordach meep!
10:48 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
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10:50 CWz Krock: is the Krock on Jordach server really you? beacuse we had lots of imposters on inchra serves recently
10:50 Krock CWz, not anymore. I got a bad allocation
10:51 Krock that server is just too heavy :/
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11:02 Xack !catgirl
11:02 Xack :<
11:04 Xack Krock: meep
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11:19 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused ConnectionCommand::sendToAll function. NetworkPacket::oldForgePacket returns Buffer instead of SharedBuffer and is used in ConnectionCommand instead of Connection::Send 61f2d0c http://git.io/hSzz (2015-03-22T12:18:16+01:00)
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11:27 Calinou Krock, which server are you talking about?
11:27 Calinou I don't host any Minetest server
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11:32 xenkey Hello everybody
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12:05 farfadet46 helllo
12:05 Krock Calinou, oh sorry.
12:06 Calinou it's ok, but I'm considering asking to get it banned
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12:27 deezl I must have missed something, Calinou, what should be banned?
12:32 Krock "his" server
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12:35 ElectronLibre If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, it's her server.
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12:44 Sketch2 hi
12:45 Sketch2 I want to be sure that everybody knows I was trying to do right, and not upset anyone with my server
12:45 Sketch2 someone was acting as Calinou on it
12:46 Sketch2 I don't think any harm has really come of it
12:46 Sketch2 but it would be best that others know it happened
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12:47 Sketch2 I believe the offending user's IP was 151.228.208.35
12:47 ElectronLibre Sketch2, I just looked in my IRC client's logs and it's right.
12:47 Sketch2 so if anyone sees any further suspicious activity from that IP, then you might let others know
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13:14 Sketch2 OK so I just WHOIS'ed everybody in the chat room and the only two that come close to the traceroute location of London are exio4 and xenkey
13:15 exio4 wat
13:15 Sketch2 make what you will of that info.  not saying it's one of them, just that if there is a hacker / lurker, that's where my suspicions would be.
13:15 ElectronLibre Sketch2, I checked everyone in the chat room too, no one have the exact informations that had the person you seek.
13:16 Sketch2 ty ElectionLibre
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13:34 someguy_irc swee
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14:00 fireglow meow
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14:05 Zeno` ROAR
14:08 deezl ElectronLibre, Sketch2, et al, yes, the above referenced ip for "Kittenhelper" has been a big problem on multiple servers, and she likes to parade around as Admin-level players on servers, and has, through some social-engineering, obtained elevated privs on several servers in order to discredit/disrupt other player/mods/admins
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14:09 ElectronLibre That's maybe why Sketch2 and I thought it was important to talk about it here.
14:10 deezl yep, several server owners are aware, I would suggest maybe blocking the ip entirely in iptables
14:10 ElectronLibre Good idea.
14:11 ElectronLibre All the operators from channels I go on have banned her, she is klined from Inchra but she now attacks servers. Some people thought about banning her ip from masterserver but again devs would be opposed to it.
14:12 deezl yeah
14:13 ElectronLibre Another idea was to ban her ip directly in iptables, for all admins, and warn to be careful with unknown servers in public list appearing suddenly, where players with famous names play.
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14:35 Jordach Zeno`, my server bungled your players :D
14:35 Zeno` bungled?
14:37 Zeno` I hope you know that today is Emmy Noether's birthday
14:38 fireglow nrzkt: what's your apps name?
14:42 Zeno` roger?
14:54 nrzkt fireglow, which app ?
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14:55 fireglow nrzkt: that one:  nrzkt │ https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF
14:56 nrzkt it's google play store developper console
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14:57 fireglow wow
14:57 fireglow okay, nevermind =)
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15:16 luizrpgluiz hi
15:22 rubenwardy Who is C1ffisme?
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15:29 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, I have no idea, but you're not the first one to talk about him.
15:30 rubenwardy He seems to be using GitHub issues as a forum
15:32 ElectronLibre Yes, I saw that, and some other people did too :/
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15:44 xenkey what was the mod that engulfed whole trees in one go?
15:45 deezl treecapitator
15:46 xenkey thanks
15:46 deezl np :D
15:46 xenkey .playing on my server as a normal user
15:46 deezl love that mod
15:46 xenkey just to see whats missing
15:46 xenkey and yes it's useful
15:47 deezl helps with the noobish players that mine about half a tree and leave the rest floating
15:48 xenkey exacrly
15:48 xenkey like me :P
15:49 deezl lol
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15:51 xenkey > log in as normal player | > say you found a bug | > restart server
15:53 xenkey You should try it, you seem as though to have a good set of standards, perhaps you could give me some constructive criticism, deezl
15:53 deezl hehe
15:54 deezl what server is yours?
15:54 xenkey Zenith one
15:54 xenkey mt.3tm.net
15:55 xenkey What was the mod that allowed players to teleport to each other?
15:55 xenkey And what would you suggest for a crafting guide?
15:57 ElectronLibre Unified_inventory contains a craft_guide in its inventory.
15:57 ElectronLibre And about players to teleport to each other... giving teleport by default is the same. Also, there is craft_guide mod, but not sure it's still working.
15:57 xenkey I dislike unified though, it's too bloated for my needs
15:58 xenkey giving teleport by default?
15:58 xenkey What kind of trickery is this
15:58 deezl the teleport thing is...tpr I think?
15:58 xenkey Yeah tpa and tph
15:58 deezl I really like UI
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15:59 deezl my creative server gives teleport by default
16:01 deezl hi est31
16:01 est31 hi deezl :)
16:03 Jordach i've only just noticed
16:03 Jordach the coffee machine in homedecor has a particle spawner adding vapor to the coffee mug
16:03 deezl that must be new
16:05 xenkey deezl: Want to take a look?
16:06 deezl xenkey, at your server? sure
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16:06 xenkey I'm playing as a user and seeing on what I could improve, I'd be glad if you could join me and criticize a bit
16:07 deezl which server?
16:07 deezl oh, nvm
16:07 deezl sorry
16:08 deezl I didn't realize you had said it earlier
16:09 deezl I was on there the other day to look around, but sure, I'll come by, gimme a couple minutes
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16:12 rubenwardy !title https://youtu.be/ctnvad6fewA
16:12 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Destroyable Environment 3 - Networking - YouTube
16:19 YvesLevier Hi :)  i cant put DVD player nor Speaker driver anywhere.  Som1 know why?
16:20 deezl they are not placeable nodes, just craft items
16:20 est31 finally a version of windows without GUI
16:21 YvesLevier deezl: You mean...  items used by developers to make items?
16:22 YvesLevier Trying to figure what they deserve to?
16:22 deezl YvesLevier, yes, the are craftitems used to make other things in the game, I assume you are using VanessaE's Homedecor_modpack?
16:22 YvesLevier I do
16:23 deezl est31, what wondows has no GUI?
16:23 deezl other than DOS
16:23 est31 deezl, http://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.as​px?src=http%3a%2f%2fvideo.ch9.ms%2fsession​s%2fwinhec%2f2015%2ffiles%2fIOT201a.pptx
16:23 est31 https://channel9.msdn.com/​Events/WinHEC/2015/IOT201
16:23 xenkey What's the setting that lets me see the positions of all players on the server?
16:24 deezl you mean just to see there tags?
16:24 est31 you personally, or everybody everybodies
16:24 Calinou unlimited_player_transfer_distance = true
16:24 Calinou that is the default, xenkey
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16:24 est31 yes
16:25 xenkey Would you advise against setting it to false?
16:25 deezl I use player_transfer_distance = 10 on the carbone server
16:25 deezl since PVP is enabled
16:25 Calinou setting it to false renders your players kind of asocial :P
16:26 YvesLevier deezl: est31: You mean VanessaE is planning to make loudspeakers... eventualy?
16:26 deezl the speakers are already in the modpack
16:27 YvesLevier All i found are home speakers
16:29 deezl YvesLevier, yes, those the ones
16:29 YvesLevier Means she doesnt use Speaker drivers yet.  Right?
16:30 xenkey Know any craft guide mods which don't use unified?
16:31 deezl zcg
16:32 YvesLevier VanessaE: ^  (about speakers drivers...  for loudspeakers)
16:33 deezl the speaker drivers are required to craft the speakers
16:33 YvesLevier hidden?
16:34 deezl what do you mean hidden?
16:34 xenkey ssh xen@mt.3tm.net 'tar -zcf .minetest/games' | cat - files.tar.gz
16:34 xenkey Look good?
16:34 xenkey If this doesn't work...
16:35 YvesLevier deezl: i mean i wish speakers with speaker drivers to be seen on speakers appearance
16:35 deezl better to stop the server first
16:35 xenkey not at all
16:35 xenkey it'll work just fine
16:36 deezl YvesLevier, so you want speakers with the covers off...
16:36 YvesLevier YESS
16:36 YvesLevier ;)
16:36 deezl you may have to create your own textures for that
16:36 deezl or beg VanessaE to add those in :D
16:36 deezl that would be kinda neat
16:38 YvesLevier Will.  Thx :)
16:57 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/
16:57 xenkey um
16:57 xenkey Why does my scrot script randomly break
16:59 est31 scrot? I'm not googling that word.
16:59 est31 !g scrot
16:59 MinetestBot est31: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrot
16:59 Calinou it's a screenshot tool, very simple
16:59 Calinou installed it here because Debian lacks one by default
16:59 * Calinou should bind it to Print Screen
16:59 Calinou done
17:00 xenkey I have a script to automagically upload the image and copy the url to my clipboard
17:00 Calinou I like how Xfce makes it easy to add new key-bindings
17:00 xenkey Calinou: what DE/WM do you use?
17:00 Calinou Xfce + Xfwm
17:00 xenkey heh
17:00 est31 why do people name userspace tools like genitals
17:00 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/
17:00 est31 weird
17:00 xenkey Okay it's minetest's fault
17:00 Calinou Minetest can screenshot with F12
17:00 Calinou (PNG format only)
17:00 Calinou use a script to auto-convert to JPEG
17:01 est31 JPEG is lossy, PNG isn't
17:01 est31 saving screenshots to jpeg by default would be bad
17:04 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Revert "Add a Lua call to do damages / heals" ok @ShadowNinja 008d7e0 http://git.io/hHGq (2015-03-22T18:01:56+01:00)
17:04 Sokomine hmm. the save files are pretty big, and we do exchange them in that size on the forum...saving space there might be a good idea....although i'm not sure how...safe...jpeg is by now
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17:05 est31 minetest save files you mean?
17:05 Calinou est31, yeah, PNG is fine
17:05 Calinou but some people might want to screenshot to JPEG (slow connection)
17:05 est31 they can use imagemagick
17:05 Sokomine no, the screenshots
17:05 Sokomine they tend to sum up...
17:05 est31 or other tools they want
17:05 ShadowNinja nrzkt: No "ok @" please.  Add "Approved by: ShadowNinja" to the description instead if you must.
17:06 nrzkt why not ?
17:06 est31 "do one thing, and do it good"
17:07 xenkey deezl: http://pastie.org/10045538
17:07 xenkey I thought it did a good job :c
17:07 Calinou est31> they can use imagemagick
17:07 xenkey Any suggestions for a low-end 4 core machine?
17:07 Calinou what if you're on Windows? :P
17:07 Calinou xenkey, you mean a physical machine? get a cheap, recent i5
17:08 xenkey Calinou: i meant amendations to the aforementioned configuration file geared towards a low end 4-core machine
17:09 Calinou num_emerge_threads = 4 multithreads mapgen but might break some caves
17:09 Calinou that's why it is 1 by default
17:10 xenkey yeah i have that one
17:10 est31 Calinou, I admit, unix philosophy doesn't apply there, also I guess that most users of minetest wont know this philosophy, but I dunno if people really want to download mozjpeg along with minetest just to save screenshots as jpeg
17:10 xenkey it's still laggy as a bitch though
17:10 Calinou libjpeg is easy to get
17:10 Calinou use a recent version though
17:10 est31 libjpeg isnt as optimized as mozjpeg
17:15 Sokomine xenkey: what kind of hardware do you use?
17:19 xenkey ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
17:19 xenkey 4 cores, 2GB RAM
17:19 xenkey it's the hardware float one
17:20 Sokomine ah. one of these tiny boards?
17:21 xenkey Yeah
17:21 xenkey Works alright though
17:21 Sokomine i've just tested my villages on a pi 1 where someone allowed me to test it over the net
17:21 xenkey It has a dedicated IP with 100mbit uplink though
17:21 exio4 Calinou: "a cheap, recent i5"
17:21 exio4 Calinou: I think that doesn't make sense
17:21 Calinou hello AMD fan :)
17:22 Calinou there's i5 for 160 €
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17:22 exio4 that's cheap?
17:22 exio4 nice one
17:23 Calinou then buy an i3
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17:23 Calinou good dual-core is better than bad quad-core
17:23 xenkey VanessaE: how exactly could I plot the performance of my server against the online players?
17:23 Sokomine i wonder if my phone will be able to handle the villages code...oh. it seems it does
17:23 exio4 Calinou: which i3?
17:23 xenkey Using RRDtool that is
17:24 Calinou exio4, the slowest (non-S one) usually
17:25 exio4 Calinou: sounds like a waste of money
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17:31 fireglow VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png
17:32 SecretSpy * WidDos think Video games turning ppl into angry mobs
17:33 Johnsen2 It's true
17:33 Johnsen2 Video Games (minetest) is turning admins into angry mobs
17:34 Johnsen2 Banning
17:34 Johnsen2 kicking
17:34 Johnsen2 even muting!
17:34 Sokomine how did a screenshot under android work again?
17:34 Sokomine johnsen2: that sounds odd
17:34 xenkey power and home?
17:35 Johnsen2 @soul_miner
17:35 Johnsen2 Johnsen is banned from mtz at the moment, and I'm not interested in giving him a platform to cry about it right now
17:35 Johnsen2 Thats what soul miner said
17:35 Calinou Sokomine, Power + Volume Down
17:35 Calinou I think
17:36 Johnsen2 Sokomine, i lied that ill let my brother play but i was spying then i got banned THEN i got muted on irc i got banned from mtz
17:36 Johnsen2 just for "LYING" i get banned? thats not a great reason to ban or mute or kick
17:37 Warr1024 what did you lie about?
17:37 Johnsen2 That im letting my brother play. i was spying only.
17:37 Sokomine caliou: hmm. doesn't work right now. but on a tablet, i had another option for screenshots...it did show up amongst the softkeys. hm
17:37 Sokomine where did you get banned, johonsen2?
17:38 Johnsen2 MTZ-Basic. it was my favorite server ever i even made a bowl of icecream (made with wool) for selah's bday
17:38 Sokomine siblings are a bit problematic in these sandbox games. i've met countless griefers who claimed that their siblings did it...perhaps that's why some people get suspicious whenever they show up
17:38 button I'm gonna spy
17:38 Sokomine that's vanessas server. she's not generally known for banning people without reason. perhaps there was a misunderstanding? do talk to her
17:39 button Sokomine, i cant talk anywhere at a server maybe connected to irc
17:39 Warr1024 if you're gonna let a brother play, it might be a good idea to get him his own account, too.
17:40 Sokomine Warr1024: certainly! that would be a good start
17:40 button Im muted on IRC inchranet banned on mtz and got nothing else to say but this: IF i stand up and scream and be a man i get banned.
17:40 fireglow kiddie admins :)
17:40 button Sokomine, huh i said ill make a account for him
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17:40 button But then... i saw something saying: Banned or something...
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17:41 button There.. still voiced. and cant change name at IRC inchranet #minetest
17:41 Warr1024 if the admins of your favorite server are very fickle, it might also be better for you in the long run to consider switching to a server with admins who are less fickle.
17:42 Johnsen2 Admin's these days wanna ban ban ban kick kick kick and mute..
17:42 Johnsen2 Switching to a server (another?)
17:42 twoelk sometimes burned ground cant be regained
17:42 Warr1024 if a server is very popular, admins may be less willing to spend a lot of time resolving conflicts and just give the boot to anyone involved.
17:43 Tablet_One Admins also don't like people who have to be told things repeatedly
17:44 Warr1024 Some admins may just not like people who draw any attention to themselves, even.
17:46 twoelk attention seeking kids that cannot play by themselves can get annoying at times
17:46 LazyJ Experienced admins know that time wasted on babysitting troublemakers is better spent helping the well behaved players.
17:46 Johnsen2 Umm, i was just kidding that im letting my brother play i was spying on them.. and ca-boof i got banned instandly. now my friends kept asking me to play on mtz basic ever single min
17:47 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/fdildk.png
17:47 xenkey This is the rather strange thing i'm experiencing
17:48 xenkey On my server which is running git, there's a dark background
17:48 Johnsen2 That's it. im telling the truth on mtz. how i feel
17:48 Warr1024 Johnsen2: maybe they didn't ban you for lying; maybe they believed you, and banned you for letting somebody else use your account.
17:48 Johnsen2 MTZ-Basic, cmd me (message)
17:48 Johnsen2 thats what im doing
17:48 Johnsen2 Warr, umm i actually lied. i was just spying.
17:48 xenkey Any ideas?
17:49 Johnsen2 deezl revoked privileges from you: all
17:49 Johnsen2 This is what happend
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17:49 Johnsen2 i've been banned from my server that i loved most
17:50 Johnsen2 @soul_miner
17:50 Johnsen2 Johnsen, you cause nothing but problems here
17:50 Tablet_One Your fault, sir
17:50 Johnsen2 That is what happend next.
17:50 Johnsen2 DID i? caused problems. (nope) i did not. thats not a problem.
17:50 Sokomine hmm. mtz really is not a server where banning is likely going to happen too fast...there are other servers around where the situation is diffrent
17:50 Johnsen2 Sokomine, huh atleast i can still play at VE-Vanilla..
17:51 Johnsen2 I'm seriously gonna get banned from that server aren't i?
17:51 Tablet_One You have to do quite a bit to get banned from MTZ
17:51 Sokomine talk to vanessae. it's her server, and she's a very reasonable person
17:51 * Sokomine nods to tablet_one
17:52 twoelk be a good guy, do usefull stuff and maybe the bann gets revoked after some cooling down <- this needs time investment
17:52 Sokomine xenkey: that's normal now, that dark background while accessing inventory/chests/formspecs. it got changed in minetest_game
17:53 Johnsen2 When i get banned from a server connected to IRC inchranet #minetest i get banned from all the other servers connected to #minetest inchranet
17:54 xenkey Sokomine: but they're running exactly the same game
17:54 Johnsen2 I'm not allowed to (talk) anymore on IRC inchranet #minetest. huh
17:55 Sokomine that does sound strange, johnsen. do talk to vanessae
17:55 Johnsen2 Wings_
17:55 Johnsen2 I don't think Zeno` had made it fair enough
17:55 Johnsen2 Wings_
17:56 Johnsen2 Rather than revoking the privs, he adds on to it.
17:56 Sokomine xenkey: hm. perhaps those changes did only come into effect with a more recent driver? i do remember that that dark background has been in existance for some time for now
17:56 Johnsen2 Wings always wanted me banned
17:56 xenkey Sokomine: Hrmmmpppf
17:57 Johnsen2 Trying to login into other servers to talk 3; not gonna work
17:57 Johnsen2 3:
17:57 Sokomine she is on irc and can be reached here
17:58 Sokomine at least in a couple of hours i think. don't know when she'll show up
17:58 Johnsen2 OH MY...
17:58 Sokomine xenkey: i don't like it much either. maybe we can convince someone to make it configurable?
17:58 Johnsen2 Argh, i have a password for IRC i chould use but not gonna use it might not be good enough for me i might get muted on that account
17:59 xenkey but it's not on in my local world and is on my server
17:59 Sokomine a slightly darker background is ok, but this is a bit dark. i liked it better the way it was before. but it's not such a big sissue
17:59 xenkey Which means that the creative button intrudes into the crafting grid
17:59 xenkey it's quite a difference though
18:00 Johnsen2 I chouldn't use it i might lose the password
18:00 Sokomine Johnsen2: go to rnd's lab. that's a more survival-orientated server, where fighting mobs works amazingly well. it even has a skill system. maybe you'll get along better with the admin there. most of the time i feel like he's at least half-way trolling...but maybe you'll like that :-)
18:00 Johnsen2 Admins are exactly only at IRC#minetest
18:00 Johnsen2 YAY
18:01 Johnsen2 I love trolling. i might even get to be admin in some couple of months. but huh i cant request to be admin just that i was admin on MTZ..
18:02 Johnsen2 Yea i'll get along with the admins and owner. not get hated like always (anoyyed) by wings.. and stuff
18:02 VanessaE xenkey: I use a bunch of scripts for plotting server performance.  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vane​ssa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/
18:03 VanessaE fireglow: yes, it's safe to run moretrees on an existing map.
18:03 Johnsen2 I also love pvp.
18:03 VanessaE Johnsen2: if someone banned you from a server, that ban is specific to that server and only that server.  it does not automatically extend to the other servers in the network unless someone explicitly goes around banning you from the other servers.
18:03 Johnsen2 VE, humm... do i get muted on your ve vanilla server aswell? becuz i got banned and all privs revoked on mtz and also muted on irc
18:04 VanessaE and if you're letting someone else use your account, that's a kickable offense at least, probably bannable.  and yeah, if you're being excessively annoying, being muted is an appropriate response.
18:04 Johnsen2 And i remember someone telling me that when i get banned from a server it hops to another server i get banned there..
18:04 VanessaE however I've been afk a lot lately from that channel so idk.
18:05 VanessaE no, it doesn't "hop"
18:05 Johnsen2 VE, umm actually i lied im gonna eat and let my brother play but i was spying just wanna see what people says from me sometimes when im gone... `~`
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18:05 Calinou there are no global master bans currently
18:05 VanessaE if you join one server and act like a total asshole, you'll get banned.  if you move to another server in the same network, someone will probably automatically ban you right away
18:06 VanessaE but that takes an admin explicitly doing so
18:06 VanessaE it's not automatic as suchj
18:06 VanessaE -j
18:06 Johnsen2 ~whois away
18:06 ShadowBot Johnsen2: ecks (ecks@wookieepedia/administrator/pdpc.active.ecks) has been on server kornbluth.freenode.net since 07:57 PM, January 21, 2015 (idle for 17 hours and 37 seconds) and is on #minetest.  away is away: Auto away at Sun Mar 22 03:09:40 2015.
18:06 Johnsen2 O.O
18:06 Calinou heh
18:06 Calinou ecks hates Minetest normally
18:07 Johnsen2 Gonna try out rnd's lab
18:09 Johnsen2 Had to use Johnsen1000 username at rnd's lab `~` cuz my old password wont work
18:10 Johnsen2 ~seen Wings_
18:10 ShadowBot Johnsen2: I haven't seen Wings_ in #minetest.
18:11 Johnsen2 hmm thats intresting seems she's not on
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18:11 VanessaE jowrong channel.
18:11 VanessaE Johnsen*
18:11 VanessaE wings doesn't hang out on this network.
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18:18 asie pondering on BuildTest again...
18:18 asie but not the currently released one
18:18 asie a new one
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18:42 deezl oi, Horus netsplit on inchra
18:43 est31 3 minutes ago
18:50 xenkey should i stop pressing the button?
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18:58 Miner59 Hi, does someone know if the function minetest.get_craft_recipe("") has been removed or renamed? Because I get a lua error when I use it with a new built minetest version..
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19:03 est31 Miner59, please explain the error
19:04 est31 there have been some changes for that function, how recent is your build
19:05 xenkey Is there any way to bring back the old inventory?
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19:07 Krock xenkey, disable inventory++ and unified_inventory
19:07 xenkey n-no
19:07 xenkey I'm not using them
19:08 Krock w-what else is your problem?
19:08 xenkey I get the old inventory in singleplayer but not in multiplayer with the SAME game
19:08 xenkey i don't know what im doing wronfg
19:09 Krock creative disabled'
19:09 Krock *?
19:09 xenkey uh maybe
19:10 xenkey Krock confirmed for new einstein
19:11 Krock I love his hair.
19:11 xenkey what's the worst that could happen
19:12 Krock When the toilet paper's empty
19:13 xenkey Nah
19:13 xenkey When the only thing you have is a book on cats
19:13 xenkey that's bad
19:14 Krock you have a book on your cats?
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19:41 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv7: 1 up , 1 down overgeneration for chunk border continuity d6638b4 http://git.io/hQfD (2015-03-22T19:30:08Z)
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19:50 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Protect Player::hud from concurrent modifications 0e5e497 http://git.io/hQTa (2015-03-22T20:47:07+01:00)
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20:07 Johnsen2 Spuf spuf
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20:20 ElectronLibre I notified something on the latest build (actual HEAD), when you're connected, no HUD and the server freezes.. I have to kill the minetest process.
20:20 Johnsen2 I have news for you everyone.
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20:28 farfadet46 hi
20:29 STHGOM hi
20:34 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Player: Fix a deadlock triggered by previous commit 0e5e49736c0a5fa29bca257bafc02d7c7a7171c9 0ae75f2 http://git.io/hQnC (2015-03-22T21:33:09+01:00)
20:36 ElectronLibre I like when there is a new item in the feedlist of MinetestBot because it always crashes my clone of MinetestBot on my local IRC server. Wonderful.
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20:57 Calinou Minetest Package Manager idea: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=11562
21:01 est31 why code our own, when there are alot of package managers out there? just chose one, either pip, npm, or whatever.
21:01 est31 and then add gui
21:05 Calinou well, you could fork one of these and use it for Minetest
21:05 Calinou do they use namespaces to prevent conflicts?
21:06 Calinou est31, we'd need modders to add .json files probably for this to work well
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21:06 Calinou they'd specify version and such
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21:18 est31 I had this idea too, but ditched it as it would only consist of aliasses for git commands or a bash for loop
21:18 est31 except of course for the information about the repo part
21:20 Calinou this would allow people to install mods easily
21:20 Calinou without having to browse the Internet randomly :P
21:25 fireglow VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png RE: it's doing that again!
21:25 fireglow VanessaE: mutilating jungletrees
21:25 fireglow good thing I made a snapshot
21:29 Sokomine hm, this test village of the lumberjack type got happy: shop, pub, sawmill, church, school
21:29 Sokomine ...except that it was the wrong mapgen and now they only got stone around...
21:30 fireglow VanessaE: ping me if you want to debug this later, for now I have uninstalled moretrees and rolled back the map.
21:32 VanessaE fireglow: there's no way moretrees can grief existing trees
21:32 Sokomine fireglow: perhaps some interference? in general, moretrees works pretty fine. it might be that your map(gen?) does something diffrently
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21:32 VanessaE there's simply no code in there to do that
21:32 VanessaE all it does is call the engine's spawn_tree() call
21:32 Sokomine it can let the leaves from them vanish
21:32 Sokomine hi oldcoder
21:32 VanessaE maybe they're getting gavegen-griefed
21:32 VanessaE cavegen*
21:32 VanessaE which would be an engine bug
21:33 fireglow hmm!
21:34 fireglow I'm not sure how to proceed
21:34 Sokomine hmmm. fireglows map is a bit..odd...in parts. that's caused by the mapgen. it's floating islands
21:34 Sokomine was that a mapgen by paramat? perhaps he remembers
21:35 fireglow paragen has been disabled for a few months
21:35 fireglow the screenshot is from the default mapgen
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21:37 fireglow I could try disabling every other mod and just load moretrees...
21:39 Sokomine there was another map somewhere which had odd occurances around jungletrees
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21:41 OldCoder Sokominello
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21:44 fireglow nope, also happens with only plantslib and moretrees loaded
21:44 fireglow heh
21:44 fireglow well, besides default, of course
21:44 Sokomine strange, fireglow
21:45 fireglow I mean plantlife_modpack, and moretrees
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21:47 Sokomine are you sure you've got the most recent version of all elements?
21:48 fireglow I am sure I've got the most recent version of all elements.
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21:51 fireglow Hmm
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21:52 Nihao Greetings, keepers of the cubic world!
21:52 * Sokomine throws some wood at nihao for building :-)
21:53 Nihao We got seriious trouble with pipeworks on our server. Reboots all the time...
21:54 Nihao I do not understand what happens. But have access to the log in real time.
21:54 est31 Nihao, can you post the log errors on a pastebin?
21:55 Nihao I have saved the last two incidents. And yes, est31, I wanted to propose that. They are three consecutive reboots and you have to know that we already entirely disabled Quarry due to loads of server reboots coming from it.
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21:56 Baraa Hello
21:57 Nihao Here it is:
21:57 Nihao http://pastebin.com/tXy9ZVdw
21:57 Baraa est31 are you here ??
21:58 Baraa what is this nihao
21:59 Nihao Baraa: What is what?
22:01 Baraa Up
22:01 Baraa Nihao: the blue thing
22:02 Nihao :) it is a link to some error messages.
22:03 Baraa oh ok
22:07 Baraa Nihao Do You Know How I Do A Server Please
22:14 Tablet_Two O.o
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22:16 RentedMule hey, with indev engine gone, do any of the others support floating islands?  or was the lag just too bad?
22:16 Nihao Baraa: Sorry, no.
22:28 deezl Nihao, you still there?
22:28 Nihao Yes, hello deezl!
22:28 deezl what _game are you running pipeworks on?
22:29 deezl standard minetest_game, or some other?
22:29 Nihao deezl: minetest_game modified
22:29 deezl hmm
22:30 deezl I recently had some trouble with pipeworks running in carbone
22:30 deezl any time we placed a auto-crafter, or certain of the pipes, the server would crash immediately
22:30 Nihao If you want to break your server and render it totally useless, put some water and bones under a Quarry :)
22:31 deezl o.O
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22:31 deezl I don't run technic on my servers, due to lag issues
22:31 Nihao Using screwdrivers on pipeworks or machines has a high reset rate, too.
22:31 deezl ouch
22:32 deezl I never found a solution to the issue with carbone, so I just disabled pipeworks
22:32 Nihao You can test that here...
22:32 Nihao game_minetest-france.fr:30000
22:33 deezl I don't speak french, are they gonna hang me there? and is it creative?
22:33 Nihao deezl: nobody hangs you there.
22:33 Nihao Ask for Crotal.
22:33 deezl lol, ok
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22:34 Nihao deezl: Speak German French or English.
22:34 deezl er, not able to connect, I'll double check the address
22:35 Nihao must be a dot, not a _
22:35 Nihao sorry, I have so much headache that I can not write anymore :)
22:36 deezl there we go...only took 5 attempts
22:37 Nihao I confirm: game.minetest-france.fr
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22:56 LandMine Hey peeps
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23:15 luizrpgluiz hi
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