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00:45 Yves Im building a village, my village of 500 souls.  But we choose to electrify all our transports.  My question :
00:47 Yves What should be a correct texture pack and how to find and install it properly plz?
00:47 Yves VanessaE textures for example :P
00:48 Yves VanessaE: ^
00:49 VanessaE HDX is good if you wanna use it :)
00:49 Yves How?
00:49 VanessaE how?  what/
00:49 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/minetest: Silence Clang warning adfcdc5 http://git.io/pz6F (2015-03-10T20:47:52-04:00)
00:49 Yves How to install?
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00:50 Yves Very sorry im new here
00:51 Yves how to grab and install properly your HDX pack plz Vanessa?
00:51 Yves VanessaE: ^
00:51 VanessaE Oh
00:52 VanessaE what resolution do you want?
00:52 Yves plz hold
00:52 Yves 1600x900
00:52 VanessaE I meant HDX resolution
00:53 VanessaE 512px?  256?
00:53 VanessaE there are several sizes
00:53 VanessaE what you can run depends on your hardware
00:54 Yves my clients should are able for 1240x920  or something like that
00:54 Yves you want i verify?
00:54 VanessaE nono
00:54 VanessaE HDX comes in several sizes.
00:54 VanessaE which size do you want?
00:54 Yves plz hold
00:55 VanessaE my guess is a smaller size like 64px is probably bext
00:55 VanessaE best*
00:55 VanessaE since you're planning to point your clients at it
00:55 VanessaE download this:  https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-64/zipball/master
00:55 Yves 1024x768
00:56 Yves okkikkk i see 64 then
00:56 Yves on int
00:56 Yves on it*
00:56 VanessaE unzip it.  move it to <your minetest dir>/textures/  and name it "server"
00:56 VanessaE e.g. <minetest dir>/textures/server/<a bunch of HDX JPG files here>
00:57 Yves good
00:57 Yves on it
00:58 Yves do i create textures if i dont have it?
00:58 Yves and a server dir under it?
00:59 Yves VanessaE: ^
00:59 VanessaE create /textures/ if it doesn't exist, but server/ will be the name you give to the HDX folder therein
00:59 Yves i mean in .minetest dir
00:59 Yves good
00:59 VanessaE mv ~/Downloads/hdx-64 ~/.minetest/textures/server/
00:59 VanessaE or similar
00:59 VanessaE don't mkdir server first, you need to actually rename the HDX folder.
01:00 Yves in my new "textures" dir.  I rename VanessaE-hdx-64-182c510 to server.
01:01 Yves Right?
01:01 VanessaE yep
01:01 Yves trying
01:02 Yves Cute enough
01:02 Yves Thx alot Vanessa :)
01:03 VanessaE it works?
01:04 VanessaE :D
01:18 Yves VanessaE: Is very long for my client to get in.  Is that normal.  I know few about his graphic card.
01:18 Yves Shall i try a 32 before?
01:19 Yves or just tell him wait?
01:19 VanessaE tell the client not to use preload item visuals
01:19 VanessaE or tell them to wait
01:19 Yves He will wait
01:19 VanessaE (HDX64 is still pretty large, though how much is sent depends on how many mods you are running)
01:19 Yves i can see
01:20 Yves will tell you informed if you want
01:20 Yves keep*
01:20 VanessaE yeah
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01:39 Yves VanessaE: Should I desactivate some mods in order my client get it faster, or if it will be as long as soon i will reactivate those mods.
01:39 Yves Example :
01:40 Yves I get this error message on my server log :
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01:40 Yves Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture: animalmaterials_egg_ent_mesh.png
01:41 VanessaE your MOBF is outdated.
01:41 VanessaE animal materials was merged into MOBF ages ago
01:42 Yves what mod should i choose for animals?
01:42 Yves and monsters?
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01:42 Yves btw great job Vanessa
01:43 VanessaE MOBF is fine, carbone_mobs is good too
01:43 VanessaE thanks
01:44 Yves i got mobf into the game in Online mods repository
01:45 Yves i suppose im better to choose another way to get it?
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01:45 est31 Yves, yes mods repo is broken
01:45 Yves now i can understand
01:46 est31 there is nobody actually reviewing those huge mods
01:46 Yves so i shall change my mods
01:46 est31 but mods can be dangerous
01:46 Yves Where to go then?
01:46 est31 download it manually
01:46 Yves where?
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01:46 est31 there is a section in the forums for mods
01:46 Yves lemme look
01:46 Yves thx
01:47 est31 https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=​11&amp;sid=5fe7ecf27f3791ad798f7706c3bb3a60
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02:12 Yves VanessaE: est31: All is looking good for now - im reinstalling mods as est31 said under Vanessa texture
02:12 Yves thx
02:12 Yves still on it
02:18 VanessaE Yves: ok
02:18 VanessaE bear in mind:  some textures in HDX are out of date
02:19 VanessaE particularly stuff relating to mesh node models in pipeworks or homedecor
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02:23 Yves VanessaE: thx
02:23 Yves will try to understand that
02:23 Yves ;)
02:24 VanessaE just look for objects that have bad images
02:24 VanessaE if the image is bad, just delete that image file from HDX and send me a forum pm or /msg me here
02:25 VanessaE bad doesn't mean no HDX image of course - but rather, looks like it was an HDX image but is all wrapped around wrong
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02:29 Yves What mod will works good for carpets?  You know?
02:29 Yves *work
02:30 VanessaE Jordach made one I think
02:30 Yves looking at
02:30 VanessaE or if you have moreblocks and gloopblocks, you can use the circular saw to cut wool into very thin slices to use as carpet
02:30 VanessaE (gloopblocks contains defs to add wool to the circular saw)
02:31 Yves also looking at this
02:35 Yves VanessaE: i found gloop (you made i think) but not moreblocks
02:36 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks
02:36 VanessaE (forum thread:  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=509 )
02:36 VanessaE gloopblocks is, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4019
02:36 Yves thx
02:36 VanessaE (nekogloop made it originally, I maintain it now
02:36 VanessaE )
02:44 Yves VanessaE: i see more things... but no carpet.  What did i wrong?
02:44 Yves im playing in creative
02:45 VanessaE what did you install?
02:46 Yves moreblocks from calinou
02:46 Yves and gloop from you
02:46 VanessaE ok.  find a circular/table saw in the inventory and place it
02:46 VanessaE find some wool, any color and put it in your inventory
02:47 VanessaE right click the saw and put some of that wool into the "input" slot
02:47 VanessaE in one of the lower rows, toward the right, take out the thinnest cut of "slab" that's offered.
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02:48 Yves circular saw?
02:48 VanessaE yeah
02:49 VanessaE it's provided by moreblocks as part of its stairsplus component
02:49 VanessaE it's really a table saw  :)
02:50 Yves i got a square table with a cube of wool on it
02:50 Yves i fear i made it wrong
02:51 VanessaE not ON it
02:51 VanessaE *in* it
02:51 VanessaE you have to right-click the table
02:51 VanessaE to bring up its inventory
02:51 VanessaE put the wool into the table saw's input slot
02:52 Yves VanessaE: Impressed
02:52 Yves Very
02:52 VanessaE works?
02:53 Yves very well
02:53 VanessaE good deal
02:53 Yves i fear this is enough for this nite
02:53 VanessaE there's always tomorrow :)
02:53 Yves thx again for all the work and help
02:53 Yves bye :)
02:53 VanessaE yw :)
02:53 VanessaE night
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03:53 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: lua_api/l_mapgen: Fix overlapping areas of minetest.generate_ores/decorations b2b6bbf http://git.io/pgcJ (2015-03-11T03:36:39Z)
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04:19 EndymionM Hi, I'm having a problem with MoreOres; I went to craft a gold pick, and it won't do it - and when I invoke giveme for moreores:pick_gold , it says that it doesn't exist.
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04:22 VanessaE gold is part of the default engine now, but doesn't make tools anymore afaik.
04:22 VanessaE s/default engine/default game/
04:22 VanessaE I guess it was decided that gold makes terrible tools :P
04:27 EndymionM Hrm, darn.  But, would it break an existing world if I created a mod to add them back in, using the stats in the old_init.lua?
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04:27 VanessaE you don't need to
04:27 VanessaE worst that'll happen is a few users will have some unknown items in their inventories.
04:28 VanessaE as far as I know, there are already aliases in the current game to handle the old item/node names for the ingots, lumps, blocks, and ores
04:28 VanessaE (copper was also moved into the default game)
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04:30 EndymionM On the world in question, there are no other users.
04:30 VanessaE ok, so there's no real worry then :)
04:31 VanessaE if you're really concerned, you could throw together a small mod to alias all the gold tools to something else that still exists, such as silver
04:32 VanessaE (that would be four aliases, trivial to do, and you could tack them onto the bottom of moreores' init.lua or something probably if you want)
04:35 EndymionM Honestly, since the mod still includes the gold tool textures, I'd want them to be their own items.  But I think I'm following you.
04:35 VanessaE huh.  kinda surprised Calinou never deleted them :)
04:37 EndymionM For me, pleasantly so.
04:44 EndymionM Wait... the tools are still defined in the init.lua, and the recipes refer to moreores:gold_ingot.  How can I check the itemstring of an item in my inventory?
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04:45 VanessaE I don't think you can in the default game
04:45 EndymionM Criminy.
04:45 VanessaE however, there were supposed to be aliases in place
04:45 VanessaE so the recipes should have worked
04:48 EndymionM Well, let me try disabling and re-enabling the mod (since that worked with the damage glitch I ran into before in the same world)
04:48 VanessaE huh.  seems they were dropped some time ago
04:48 VanessaE there used to be an external_legacy mod.
04:49 VanessaE dropped at commit 8bf344e461b01ee8402a43053481141c21a3e51e
04:49 VanessaE April 16, 2014
04:49 VanessaE wow, that HAS been a while.
04:50 EndymionM Oh goody.
04:54 EndymionM So if we assume for the moment that the gold ingots in my inventory are in fact from default: and not moreores: (which is logical, as the game should override the mod)... I'd need to modify the crafts in moreores to use default:gold_ingot rather than moreores:""?
04:56 EndymionM Is it that simple and painless?  Or is there something wonkier that will have to happen?
04:56 VanessaE yep
04:56 VanessaE it would be as obvious as it seems
04:58 VanessaE that said, I don't see defs in the current moreores for gold...anything
04:58 VanessaE though the textures still exist
04:58 EndymionM Has it been updated since 2/21?
04:59 VanessaE current commit is from march 2, 2015
04:59 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreores
05:00 EndymionM Ah, yep.  I snagged it literally the Saturday before the gold tools went the way of the dodo.
05:01 VanessaE you musta got it from the old github repo then
05:01 VanessaE hm, no
05:01 VanessaE that's not right
05:02 VanessaE no commits from February (of any year) in the whole log, in my copy
05:03 EndymionM Well, I'm just telling you when I downloaded it, the commit was probably before that.
05:03 VanessaE no worries :)
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05:03 EndymionM Yup.
05:04 VanessaE anyway better you should update to the latest one, and alias the gold tools -> silver ones or something
05:06 EndymionM Or, before I update just copy the stats either from the one I have, append it to the current one with the changes, and run with that.  Then reinstall; and it shouldn't break my world.  I have a house (and a toilet :-p) I'm rather proud of.  And if I want to create tin tools, I can have moreores be a depend and create them similarly?
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05:23 * EndymionM is trying to figure this out...
05:25 VanessaE or fetch the external_legacy mod from an old copy of minetest_game
05:25 VanessaE that would be easiest
05:27 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest​_game/tree/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3​f99fee326b37475/mods/external_legacy
05:27 VanessaE this should get you pretty close
05:30 EndymionM Okay, I can't just get a zipball... how on Earth do I get this?
05:31 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest​_game/tree/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3​f99fee326b37475/mods/external_legacy
05:31 VanessaE this is the very last commit available before it was removed btw
05:31 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archi​ve/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3f99fee326b37475.zip
05:31 VanessaE there's the zipball
05:31 VanessaE download that, copy mods/external_legacy out of it and put it in your current game, see if it works
05:32 VanessaE no guarantees :)
05:32 VanessaE should work though, it's just a bunch of register_alias() calls for the moreores and diamonds mods.
05:33 VanessaE it does not, however, do anything with the missing gold tools
05:33 VanessaE so you'll still need to add aliases for those to point to something suitable (this mod should suffice as a place to add them)
05:34 EndymionM Or just use the minetest register_craft function, since Calinou did before.
05:34 VanessaE in that case, you need not do anything at all
05:34 VanessaE if you're gonna keep your outdated version of moreores
05:34 VanessaE just install that external_legacy mod
05:34 VanessaE and the moreores recipes should just work
05:35 EndymionM Well, I can just add them from old_init.lua, then throw external_legacy in, and poof, it all works like it did.
05:35 VanessaE you could try that, but it may not work - moreores got a huge rewrite not long ago
05:35 VanessaE worth a shot though
05:42 EndymionM I saw that.  But as far as the engine cares, minetest.register_tool and minetest.register_craft still work, right?
05:44 EndymionM Okay.  Golden Pickaxe worked.  yay.
05:45 VanessaE yep, the standard functions will still work fine
05:46 VanessaE I was just thinking of the case where the old code might have relied on some moreores-specific function
05:46 VanessaE (or table, etc)
05:49 EndymionM Nope, just the textures, thankfully.
05:49 VanessaE ok
05:49 VanessaE sounds like you might want to send Calinou a pull request to reinstate those old tools then
05:50 VanessaE (and copy the aliases back into moreores to suit)(
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05:55 EndymionM Wouldn't be a bad idea, frankly.
06:00 EndymionM But, thank you again for the help... because I tend to avoid programming or scripting whenever possible.  I did BASIC back in the TRS-80 CoCo days, then HTML & CSS... but generally not my thing anymore.
06:01 VanessaE well Minetest has got you now ;)
06:01 VanessaE you've been sucked into the bottomless pit of modding ;)
06:02 EndymionM The scary thing about that... is that you're right :-P
06:03 VanessaE heh
06:11 EndymionM But I do need sleep now.  Or else no money.  No money, no internet... no way to upload any mods I write :-P
06:13 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv6: Fix uninitialised heightmap used by cavegen 29e46d6 http://git.io/pgPF (2015-03-11T06:04:07Z)
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08:10 Samat hi!
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09:59 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Plumbing Day! :-D
10:00 * VanessaE tosses some pipeworks pipes into the channel
10:01 JamesTait \o/
10:01 JamesTait Hey, VanessaE. How're you?
10:01 VanessaE tired and sleepless but otherwise ok :)
10:02 JamesTait Welcome to my Monday. ;)
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10:25 srifqi does MESE block make signal (or pulse or power) in mesecons?
10:26 VanessaE it can transfer a signal like a wire
10:26 Dartmouth I think it only conducts
10:26 VanessaE but it does not itself make any signal.
10:26 srifqi only conducts? hmm...
10:26 srifqi okay rebuild
10:27 srifqi the circuit
10:28 srifqi wait, how about mesecons torch? does it?
10:28 VanessaE a mesecons torch is like an inverter
10:28 VanessaE works similar to a redstone torch
10:29 VanessaE when fed no signal, a mesecons torch will be "on" (since it interprets a no-signal as "off" and inverts it)
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10:29 srifqi okay, got it
10:30 srifqi are MESE ores rare for you?
10:31 VanessaE mese is supposed to be somewhat uncommon, yeah
10:31 srifqi so, for you, is it MORE precious than diamond?
10:33 srifqi test
10:33 srifqi another test
10:34 srifqi ah, didn't works
10:34 srifqi sorry
10:36 VanessaE idk which one is more rare, I don't do much mining
10:36 VanessaE (I usually play creative)
10:37 ThatGraemeGuy mese starts being found around -64, whereas you only find diamond starting around -128
10:37 ThatGraemeGuy so from normal ground level until around -256 you would find more mese overall
10:37 srifqi ah, btw VanessaE, i was enjoying your creative server when accidentally i destroyed a button ans then lag and then crashed
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10:38 srifqi still not go there till now
10:38 srifqi ThatGreameGuy: do you mean below y:-256?
10:38 ThatGraemeGuy below -256 mese is slightly more common than diamond, but not so significant that you'd notice
10:39 srifqi yes it is
10:39 srifqi but luckiness decidea
10:39 srifqi decides*
10:39 ThatGraemeGuy yes ores are not uniform like they used to be
10:40 srifqi not same as real life
10:40 ThatGraemeGuy used to be that in a 100x100x100 section you be likely to find more or less the same amount of mese and diamond
10:40 srifqi btw, is this channel is Minetest-related only?
10:40 ThatGraemeGuy but it was changed a few months ago so now in that same patch you might find no diamonds at all
10:41 srifqi ThatGraemeGuy, ^^
10:42 sfan5 srifqi: this channel is minetest only, but off-topic discussions are not uncommon
10:43 srifqi sfan5: okay, btw, are you a cat? many users say that
10:43 sfan5 meow
10:44 srifqi meow meow, meow meow meow?
10:44 sfan5 meow, meow.
10:51 srifqi *just finished take a bath
10:52 srifqi cats don't like take a bath, right?
10:53 gorilla srifqi: true. but most "cats" are intrigued by flowing water.
10:53 * gorilla throws the cat into the shower to find out.
10:53 srifqi flowing only?
10:53 srifqi XD
10:53 gorilla oops. I meant to put quotes around the word most.
10:54 srifqi okay,
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10:55 srifqi if flowing only, then how if i throw cat to lake?
10:55 srifqi sfan5: are you male or female cat?
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10:56 sfan5 uh
10:56 sfan5 i don't know
10:57 srifqi let me check
10:57 srifqi !gender sfan5
10:57 srifqi XD
10:58 srifqi hello MinetestBot
10:58 MinetestBot Hello srifqi
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11:29 srifqi sfan5 aka meow
11:33 srifqi Wuzzy
11:33 Wuzzy Meow.
11:33 Wuzzy hi you
11:33 srifqi lol
11:33 srifqi hello
11:34 srifqi still not finished for Indonesian translation :(
11:34 srifqi argh.. where is my free time?!
11:36 srifqi Wuzzy: the idea for adding mapgem flags to create world dialog is nice!
11:36 srifqi mapgen*
11:36 Wuzzy I agree.
11:36 Wuzzy It is not a new idea, actually.
11:37 srifqi yes not a new idea
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12:18 srifqi Wuzzy, how is your tutorial?
12:19 Wuzzy what do you mean?
12:19 Wuzzy its fine, I guess? lol
12:20 srifqi oh, hope i can continue translating it
12:20 srifqi to Indonesian
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12:24 srifqi est31, how're you?
12:24 est31 good
12:24 est31 & u?
12:25 srifqi fine ty
12:25 srifqi can an irc user uses 2 client?
12:26 est31 I guess so
12:26 srifqi let me try
12:27 est31 with the same nick or different nicks?
12:27 est31 same nick needs znc
12:27 est31 different nicks work fine without that
12:27 est31 znc or smuxi or quassel or whatever
12:27 srifqi failed :( changing client
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12:29 srifqi est31, it failed
12:29 srifqi using laptop now
12:30 srifqi est31?
12:30 est31 yes?
12:30 srifqi est31: ^ ^ ^
12:31 est31 ok fine
12:31 srifqi Wuzzy, still there?
12:32 srifqi est31: got it?
12:32 est31 what
12:32 Wuzzy ??????????????????????
12:32 srifqi est31: Wuzzy: nvm
12:32 srifqi just wondering what are you doing that always connected to irc
12:33 Wuzzy I am lurking, like on most other channels.
12:33 est31 you can use remote clients
12:33 Wuzzy but sometimes I talk
12:33 Wuzzy I am not always connected to IRC, however
12:35 srifqi oh, that's why sometimes i asking something,
12:35 srifqi no reply until more than 1 hour
12:35 srifqi :(
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12:36 srifqi Wuzzy, what is "Verlassend"?
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12:37 Wuzzy The German expression for “Leaving”
12:38 srifqi oh, *writing in notes
12:39 Wuzzy btw <http://dict.cc/> is an useful dictionary
12:39 srifqi *opening
12:39 srifqi ~source
12:39 ShadowBot My source is at https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria -- Custom plugins are at https://github.com/ShadowNinja/Limnoria-plugins
12:40 srifqi Wuzzy, what does "Deutsch-Englisch-Wörterbuch" means?
12:40 srifqi "Wörterbuch"
12:40 Wuzzy oops
12:40 Wuzzy forget it
12:41 srifqi what does it means?
12:42 FreeFull Word book
12:42 Wuzzy sorry, wrong URL
12:42 FreeFull Probably dictionary
12:42 Wuzzy http://www.dict.cc/?l=e
12:43 Wuzzy It means “dictionary” http://www.dict.cc/?s=W%C3%B6rterbuch
12:47 srifqi oh, so i opened a deustch site
12:49 srifqi btw, when will minetest has 0.4.12 official build in ALL OS?
12:50 srifqi est31: ^
12:53 srifqi sfan5: ^^^
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13:15 sfan5 srifqi: no idea
13:15 sfan5 srifqi: currently only android is missing
13:15 sfan5 and the ppa for some reason
13:15 srifqi only android?
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13:15 srifqi so, the ubuntu/debian has released?
13:19 srifqi sfan5: ^^^^
13:19 sfan5 <sfan5> and the ppa for some reason
13:19 sfan5 that is also missing
13:19 srifqi also? :(
13:19 sfan5 we don't have control over the official debian/ubuntu repositories
13:19 srifqi then who control it?
13:20 srifqi then who control them (repos)?
13:20 sfan5 the respective maintainers
13:20 srifqi explain
13:22 sfan5 the minetest packages for ubuntu are not maintained by us but by someone else
13:25 srifqi have you contact them?
13:28 sfan5 no
13:30 srifqi but, do you know how to contact them?
13:33 srifqi sfan5: ^
13:33 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Unescape tooltip texts 140245a http://git.io/paiX (2015-03-11T14:33:07+01:00)
13:34 sfan5 srifqi: yes
13:34 srifqi good to know
13:35 srifqi meow: which script that does chat when there is a commit to minetest/minetest?
13:35 srifqi sfan5: ^
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13:43 sfan5 srifqi: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbo​t-modules/blob/master/rssnotify.py
13:43 srifqi ah, why I forget about rss?
13:43 srifqi thanks
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13:57 srifqi Jordach: evening, hi
13:58 Jordach OW
13:59 Jordach i can't turn my neck right :( (it hurts like crazy)
14:01 srifqi wat?
14:02 Jordach srifqi, the muscle ij=n my neck hurts
14:02 srifqi oh,
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15:41 luizrpgluiz hi all
15:44 ekem hello!
15:45 luizrpgluiz hello ekem
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15:51 ekem hows it going luizrpgluiz
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15:53 luizrpgluiz ekem: I was studying some mapgen, flatland
15:54 luizrpgluiz ekem: and you?
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16:05 ekem finding minima and maxima to rational functions :\
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17:00 racam_ Hi, sometimes when i started a map, I got no texture. When I lookup the "--info" trace I found many RE-SENDING timed-out and finally : "INFO[ConnectionSend]: con(1216/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 3 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)"
17:00 racam_ does someone have an idea ?
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18:25 nrzkt /msg MemoServ READ NEW
18:26 nrzkt opps sorry :)
18:26 nrzkt Krock i'm closing it.
18:26 Krock xD
18:26 Krock okay
18:27 nrzkt it's a pure troll. there is no proof, the only proof i see is Zeno` bug report and i fixed it.
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18:29 Calinou https://notabug.org/mirror/minetest
18:29 Calinou heh
18:29 Calinou trying out organizations and migration
18:31 nrzkt what is the benefit ?
18:32 VanessaE greetz all.
18:32 Calinou hi
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18:39 * Calinou installed Shumway, to make the copy button working on that page
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19:16 Xack hey Calinou :)
19:17 Calinou hi Xack
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19:51 kodmaster23 hey guys, I behind a HTTP proxy from my "work" here in huehuebrbr and I was just wondering, it's possible to connect to a server hosted with 8080 ports, is there a way to auth to a http proxy within the minetest client?
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19:52 Krock minetest is not http
19:53 Warr1024 minetest runs over UDP, which can't be proxied over an HTTP proxy
19:53 Jordach if it filters UDP then no, you can't
19:53 kodmaster23 :cccccc
19:54 kodmaster23 thanks, so it's singleplayer all day haha
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19:56 kodmaster23 I was thinking to use something like widecap with the option to traverse UDP proto, but WideCap doesn't recognises minetest.exe :/
19:56 kodmaster23 But thanks guys :)
19:58 Warr1024 tunneling udp over tcp is actually something I've been meaning to find a solution for, in general...
19:59 Krock lovely. most tunneling services use UDP for their TCP packets :3
20:00 Krock JeDaYoshi, how do you invite someone in a room?
20:01 JeDaYoshi ?
20:01 Warr1024 TCP over UDP is usually not a bad thing, since TCP already provides reliable transport, and already runs over one datagram protocol (IP)
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20:01 Warr1024 UDP over TCP is tricky, because TCP will cause performance issues if packets are lost
20:01 Krock - JeDaYoshi has invited you to #forumdreamz
20:02 JeDaYoshi ah
20:02 JeDaYoshi just /invite nick
20:02 Krock oh, didn't know about that :3
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20:47 justas2 can someone help me??? create a server
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20:50 justas2 cam someone help me please?
20:50 Builder123 Hi Justas just logged on irc
20:50 justas2 i know but i need help
20:51 Builder123 if its technical - Im not the guy
20:51 justas2 no its about the server (how to create an server)
20:51 Builder123 yes I created a server
20:52 justas2 how
20:53 Builder123 there are a couple of links I can give you - how? Simple: modify your minetest.conf file with the server information. To run just run minetestserver with the appropriate options (like which world to use)
20:54 Builder123 Let me get that bookmark - I promise you can get one running in less than an hour (But - I do not port forward - mine is private on my homes lan)
20:55 Builder123 brb
20:56 Builder123 http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
20:57 Builder123 thats one - Im trying to find the one I used - are you on windows?
20:58 justas2 dont know but this pc is Asus
20:59 Builder123 https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=8924
20:59 justas2 its windows brb
20:59 Builder123 this is the one I used
20:59 justas2 it is
20:59 justas2 windows
20:59 Builder123 ok use the last link and read it
20:59 Builder123 [Guide] Create and maintain a server on Windows
21:00 Builder123 The reason I cant go public is because I'm on dsl - there is no cable service - my TV comes in from satellite
21:00 justas2 cant make it its my mum's broken battery pc
21:01 Builder123 ow
21:01 justas2 it has an X on a battery so i have to charge it every day
21:01 justas2 it hasnt spilled yet
21:01 Builder123 needs replacing - that battery is exhausted
21:01 justas2 yea
21:02 justas2 Windows defender needs to scan my mum's computer
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21:02 Builder123 I have a spare phone with that problem - runs only if its plugged in - replacement battery not worth the cost (the phone was a gift)
21:03 luizrpgluiz hi all
21:03 justas2 i wont scan it yet    my dad will scan it little while
21:03 Builder123 OK defender is good to have
21:03 Builder123 ok
21:03 justas2 yea
21:03 Builder123 are u kicked or banned? I see you are not playing
21:03 justas2 Hi luizrpgluiz
21:04 Builder123 I was playing Ocean Experiment - but the server is down
21:04 Builder123 that is one tough server to get started on
21:04 luizrpgluiz justas2: hi
21:05 Builder123 Justas do you have this under control?
21:05 justas2 what do you mean under controll?
21:06 Builder123 I was going to sign off unless you need me to stick around
21:06 Builder123 Like you can read and follow the instructions
21:06 justas2 yea
21:07 Builder123 ok Ill leave this up and running and check it periodically
21:10 justas2 this is really hard
21:11 Builder123 ok - if you want to go public - I cant help you - routers are set up differently from model to model - but in at home server just follow the instructions forsetting up the server - not so hard
21:12 Builder123 let me look at that page
21:12 Builder123 Sokomine r u there?
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21:13 justas2 hes here i think
21:13 Builder123 k
21:13 justas2 not away
21:13 Builder123 ok Skip to step 3
21:13 justas2 yep
21:14 Builder123 Step 3 will let you set up a server - this is not hard
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21:16 Trixar_za It's harder on Linux with no GUI
21:16 Trixar_za :P
21:17 Builder123 Running the server is not hard. I got mine running and then I logged into the server on 2 different devices (a phone and my tablet - the Linux laptop was my server - it works - I had 3 players in my singleplayer world.
21:17 Builder123 Linux was a piece of cake without GUI
21:18 Builder123 MT is so simple - in fact you can use the windows instructions (I did) to set up a server.
21:18 Builder123 ...on linux
21:18 Trixar_za Really? Empty world with the addition of mods? I had to learn about which files to edit
21:18 justas2 when you done step 2 how im gonna do the code copy on that???
21:18 est31 if you need to edit files in order to add mods, then you are using the hardest method
21:19 est31 just copy your mods into the worldmods dir and be happy
21:19 est31 hi builder :)
21:19 Trixar_za world's can have a mods directory?
21:20 Trixar_za I just modify the world.mt file after dropping the mods in the mods directory in the main folder
21:20 Builder123 Mods directory can be placed in the specific World that u want the mod to work in
21:20 Trixar_za And you guys are only telling me this NOW?
21:21 est31 I don't know why this isnt the default option
21:22 est31 perhaps with symlinks to the mods folder instead of stupid world.mt
21:22 Builder123 I can just drop mods into the singleplayer folder (andriod) or the specific subgame for windows or linx - they are automatically added to your game (of course as long as the mod is not corrupted)
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21:23 devmarth hey
21:23 Builder123 Ok but then you lose control of which mods you want to work for a specific game
21:23 Builder123 est!!!
21:24 Builder123 The location of the mod can be global or specific - I have barebones games as well as one with mesecons and digiline, another with home decor
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21:25 asie sometihng that might interest you: BuildCraft 7 is having all its textures redrawn, and the new ones will likely be under CC BY-SA or something similar
21:26 Builder123 Trixar - that mt modification is something that can be avoided - you're making it too hard
21:26 Trixar_za Nobody told me otherwise so that's how I figured out how to do it
21:26 Trixar_za :P
21:28 Builder123 Ok there is information for installing mods in the forum - but it shows you the directory structure - once you see the diagram, it will fall into place
21:28 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
21:28 Calinou asie, which version of CC BY-SA? shouldn't be 2.0 (not DFSG-compliant)
21:28 Calinou at least 2.5
21:28 Builder123 Twoelk to the rescue!
21:28 asie Calinou: probably 3.0
21:28 asie or 4.0
21:29 twoelk hi Builder123
21:29 asie another interesting idea to look into: write a new pipeworks
21:29 justas2 maybe ill do it tommorow
21:29 asie might do it if I need another break from MC modding
21:29 Builder123 Hi 2e whats up with Ocean Experiment?
21:29 luizrpgluiz I learned how to install mods on their own
21:29 twoelk dont know
21:30 Builder123 Justas Step 3 wasnt bad was it?
21:30 Builder123 I tried to log into O.E. and started at connecting to server.....
21:30 Builder123 stared...
21:30 * twoelk has just spent some time trying to rescue the family servermap from a fire out of control
21:31 Builder123 hehe
21:31 justas2 i as trying to do it but i dont know were to text the code
21:31 Builder123 I hate lava and fire
21:31 justas2 Huh?
21:32 Builder123 justas you must open the minetest.conf with notepad (preferred) or wordpad
21:32 justas2 oh
21:33 justas2 i dont have that
21:33 Builder123 What windows version r u running?
21:33 twoelk interesting when the meaning of consequenses dawn on the kids as there is no undo function (so I'm telling them)
21:33 justas2 i got Windows 7
21:34 devmarth hm
21:34 twoelk burnt server is burnt server
21:34 twoelk justas2 you have
21:34 Builder123 Try this - hit the windows key and the letter 'r' at the same time -- it will say 'Run' and enter notepad in the window then hit ok
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21:35 Builder123 twoelk one spoon at a time
21:36 twoelk haven't offered any spoon yet
21:36 Builder123 I had to modify my tree room - glass and papyrus is too fragile when harvesting wood
21:37 Builder123 :)
21:37 twoelk :-)
21:37 justas2 :( i had to go
21:37 justas2 bye
21:37 Builder123 By Justas catch u on mtzeno
21:38 Builder123 twoelk - I guess computer experience I have - just helped my son clean up his cpu cabinet eariler today
21:39 Builder123 Nothing like fresh thermal compound to ensure stable cpu operation
21:40 Builder123 2e - I found the voxelgarden forum - the closest thing to O.E. do you know who can update on server status?
21:42 Builder123 OE still down...
21:49 Builder123 looks too quiet here....
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21:57 twoelk it's Casimir's server and he lives in Europe if I remember correctly, so he might be going to sleep soon
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22:54 TheFox Hey all, I was wondering if someone in here knew anything about 0.4.12 coming out in the stable Ubuntu PPA? Much appreciated.
22:56 est31 sfan5: ^
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23:05 TheFox Judging from the logs, it looks like someone asked about that earlier today, and it was said that the PPA is separately maintained. It was asked if the maintainers were contacted yet at the time, and the answer then was no though the devs have the info to contact them.
23:07 est31 ShadowNinja, do you have control over the stable releases ppa?
23:07 est31 because you are listed as team member: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs
23:08 ShadowNinja est31: Yes, but I don't really know how to use LP. :-P
23:09 TheFox xD
23:09 est31 lol
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23:16 TheFox If someone could maybe contact the  other PPA team members about it, I'd be very grateful. :)
23:17 est31 told c55 and PilzAdam
23:18 TheFox Thank you, est31. :)
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23:23 iio7 When compiling from 0.5.0-dev the server version still prints as 0.4.12, is this normal or have I compiled the wrong version?
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23:24 iio7 I checked out 0.5.0-dev before compiling, at least I believe I did.
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23:26 est31 it is possible
23:26 est31 I'm not sure
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23:35 est31 http://pastebin.com/XpR3mKM0
23:35 est31 got this when I did //load schem
23:36 est31 why is it happening?
23:36 est31 I can only reproduce it on a production server
23:36 est31 it makes the situation more delicate
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