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00:27 luizrpgluiz hi all
00:27 ipv6b hi luizrpgluiz
00:28 luizrpgluiz someone here in the group can do mapgen? Please can someone pass me the right links for me to study the mapgen code?
00:32 luizrpgluiz please?
00:34 ipv6b Just looked in the src folder and it looks there's a mapgen*.cpp for each mapgen
00:36 ipv6b I've read that v7 added biomes while v6 didn't have any biomes.
00:37 ipv6b but maybe that ain't true. mapgen_v6.cpp mentions stuff about biomes ""biomeblend", MGV6_BIOMEBLEND"
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00:47 jojoa1997 v7 added lua definable biomes while v6 had a basic sense of biomes (forest, hills, desert)
00:47 jojoa1997 and jungle
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00:51 luizrpgluiz hi
00:52 luizrpgluiz but not the code in C, but in LUA
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02:25 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv6: Add heightmap. Do not make large caves that are entirely above ground 773aa8c http://git.io/x4zB (2015-03-02T02:13:43Z)
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02:43 paramat Gael-de-Sailly, see https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=167081#p167081
02:45 paramat hi hmmmm please could you update the LVM example here https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=18&t=6396 to the new version i know you have sitting around somewhere?
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02:54 paramat or, i'd be happy to cleanup your new example and post it myself in that thread, if you remove the old example from the first post
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03:17 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix narrow_to_wide_c (ANDROID) aefe807 http://git.io/x4XP (2015-03-02T13:16:01+10:00)
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10:13 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Dr. Seuss Day! :-D
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10:38 luca467 hey guys
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10:38 luca467 what's up
10:39 luca467 ?
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11:56 fireglow nodebreakers on pipeworks tubes are behaving weirdly...
11:58 fireglow mmm, waiting for est, he's my hero
11:58 mazal What is nodebreakers used for ? I tried thinking of a good use but couldn't
12:00 fireglow automatic farming of stuff, trees, cobble, ...
12:02 ThatGraemeGuy fireglow: currently being discussed in #minetest-technic
12:04 fireglow okay
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12:56 luizrpgluiz hi all,anyone here knows mess with mapgen?
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13:28 Guest46485 hi
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13:44 CD-bot hello world!
13:44 luizrpgluiz hello CD
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13:47 CD-bot hello world!
13:47 cd100 hi cdbot
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13:53 tim_flatus If I was to host textures on a separate server should they be organised in a single folder like a texture pack?
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14:00 tim_flatus And do I need to name that folder 'server'?
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14:00 CD-bot hi
14:01 tim_flatus lo
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14:03 cd100 hi
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14:16 WSDguy2014 Hello, guys, i got it tried extract to Zip file WinRAR, but didn't work single player within saving
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14:19 CD-bot hi
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14:20 CD-bot hi
14:21 cd100 little chat bot test :-)
14:22 Zeno` amazing :p
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14:30 cd100 How can I write a message to a minetest server?
14:30 cd100 e.g. mtz-basic
14:38 WSDguy2014 can help me to play minetest, single player with saving worlds?
14:41 cd100 what is your problem?
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14:44 tim_flatus WSDguy2014: It's hard to understand what you're asking. The world is automatically saved in singleplayer?
14:45 WSDguy2014 im played single player survival about 1 hour, wile saving, closing and re open game just not saved
14:47 cd100 What is your minetest version?
14:48 WSDguy2014 0.4.11   still not auto saving
14:48 tim_flatus Did you install to a directory for which you have write permission?
14:49 tim_flatus Are you on Windows?
14:50 WSDguy2014 i have Windows 7
14:50 WSDguy2014 Ultimate version
14:52 tim_flatus OK, I can't help you. At a guess you need to save the world in your home directory. I guess you have installed minetest in your programs dir?
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14:53 WSDguy2014 in WinRaR
14:53 tim_flatus http://wiki.minetest.net/Getting_Started#Windows
14:54 tim_flatus "Do not save to C:\Program Files\ or similar, as it will cause problems (unwritable files)"
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14:57 CD-bot hi
14:58 WSDguy2014 there no liquids_shader, plants_shader and solids_shader on my WinRAR
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14:58 CD-bot hi
14:58 tim_flatus That's because it's a file compression tool WSDguy2014
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14:59 WSDguy2014 can i fill to C:\Program Files or no?
15:00 tim_flatus No read the link ^^^
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15:00 CD-bot bye
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15:01 CD-bot hi
15:01 STHGOM hi
15:01 WSDguy2014 ok, i will try it...
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15:03 CD-bot Oh ,you will quit.
15:03 cd100 no I do not :-)
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15:05 cd100 *wont
15:06 WSDguy2014 Whoa, its released 0.4.12
15:06 WSDguy2014 link: http://minetest.net/download
15:07 tim_flatus Yes, it's amazing what you find out if you read stuff ;-)
15:08 tim_flatus How many minetest players does it take to read the motd? :-D
15:09 WSDguy2014 link: forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11260
15:09 WSDguy2014 copy link and paste
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15:10 CD-bot hi
15:12 STHGOM hello again cd-bot
15:12 * tim_flatus facepalms
15:13 STHGOM xD
15:13 cd100 cd-bot my little chat bot...
15:13 cd100 but It doesnt work good
15:13 cd100 cd-bot begin
15:14 cd100 I dont know why it dont work.
15:14 CD-bot Oh ,I dont know why it dont work.
15:14 cd100 It works :-)!
15:15 cd100 But not really good :P
15:15 WSDguy2014 YES. YES
15:15 WSDguy2014 its worked :)
15:15 STHGOM how do you talk to it?
15:16 cd100 I say something :).
15:16 CD-bot Oh ,I say something :).
15:16 cd100 oh no....
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15:16 CD-bot bye
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15:17 * tim_flatus hands cd100 a lifetime supply of Spam.
15:17 cd100 Why?
15:18 luizrpgluiz hi
15:18 luizrpgluiz all
15:18 cd100 hi
15:19 luizrpgluiz someone messes with mapgen here in the group?
15:19 tim_flatus a bit yes
15:20 luizrpgluiz tim_flatus: you can teach me some mapgen?
15:21 tim_flatus Not really - read some of paramat's postings on the forum
15:21 luizrpgluiz the Paramat is hard to understand, I wanted to learn the basics first
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15:22 tim_flatus There are no basics, sorry. :-/
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15:23 luizrpgluiz :/
15:23 cd100 You can read minetest dev wiki on the internet.
15:24 WSDguy2014 bye, thanks for helping
15:24 luizrpgluiz I've seen but do not know what the sequence of pages for me to read
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15:25 cd100 There is something about voxels.
15:25 cd100 ( modding api )
15:26 tim_flatus It may be better to wait until there is some proper docs on the v5/v7 biome system. I think that will be the easiest.
15:26 tim_flatus But I haven't got my head around it yet.
15:28 tim_flatus This: http://dev.minetest.net/VoxelManip but it is not simple.
15:28 cd100 I know...
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15:32 luizrpgluiz some questions, I saw in minetest forum that will have vanilla in bed, you'll have more news on minetest the game?
15:32 toothpick I just want to confirm something: if I kill the minetest server process...and do a git update of the current game (in this case dreambuilder) and start minetestserver I should be good to go?
15:35 tim_flatus That sounds reasonable toothpick
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15:38 toothpick tim_flatus: thanks. Going to try it momentarily
15:40 tim_flatus Does anyone have experience of hosting textures separately from the game server?
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15:46 toothpick It seems to work, but I didn't merge correctly. I forgot that I have additional player textures in the game now, so I need to merge the paths.
15:46 toothpick I did a wget of the master.zip
15:47 toothpick There is a way to do it with git I'm sure...have to find the command.
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15:47 tim_flatus OK, I found the remote_media forum thread.
15:47 tim_flatus A git pull should do it
15:48 toothpick tim_flatus: care to show me the command
15:48 toothpick the archive I want is here: https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game
15:48 toothpick I want it to be pulled into the path dreambuilder_game
15:48 tim_flatus I'm still learning myself
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15:49 tim_flatus But I think you have to add it as a remote repo and then pull that
15:50 WSDguy2014 Good News: Back in 2011, has Pre-Release version on "Minetest" World its "0.0.1-win32-110214104633" very first version made
15:50 tim_flatus You'd be better off reading the official git docs on adding rmote repos and pull / merge
15:50 WSDguy2014 link: c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/
15:56 luizrpgluiz how do I install the latest version of minetest in my linux mint?
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15:59 WSDguy2014 its only Windows Operation System to work latest version of minetest
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16:03 luizrpgluiz not like the windows because it is slower to process things even with a good computer, I like Linux because it is faster to have a better use of hardware
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16:07 SylvieLorxu luizrpgluiz: Add this: https://code.launchpad.net/~mine​testdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
16:07 SylvieLorxu "Technical details" tells you the commands to run
16:08 SylvieLorxu Not sure which Ubuntu version your Mint version relates to, though
16:15 toothpick VanessaE: I'm getting an error with mesecons preventing minetestserver from running
16:16 toothpick Failed to load and run script from /usr/share/minetest/games/dreambuilder_game​/mods/mesecon/mesecons_movestones/init.lua
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16:21 toothpick I took the older mesecons mod and placed it the newer branch and seems to work now.
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16:50 lordawe hi guys, my server crashed and I can't run it, can you help please? http://pastebin.com/GhcgHqme
16:50 lordawe ty
16:51 ElectronLibre lordawe, does it happen when you start the server?
16:51 lordawe yes
16:52 lordawe http://picpaste.com/schranka01-2jZN8PGk.jpg
16:52 ElectronLibre Oh great. Your world_meta.txt, or one of your world's configuration file is written badly.
16:53 lordawe :(
16:54 ElectronLibre Maybe it can be corrected, open map_meta.txt with a notepad-like program, open one from another world (not corrupted) and try to copy missing parameters.
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16:54 lordawe can it be fixed somehow?
16:54 lordawe ok
16:54 ElectronLibre ^ What I just said.
16:55 ElectronLibre If it's still broken, create a new world (same game, same seed), copy the map.sqlite and world.mt file into the new world's directory (the worldmods, players directories too) and try to run again.
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16:57 lordawe these are files in the world folder: http://pastebin.com/64T5zTSa
16:58 ElectronLibre I hope it's only map_meta.txt which is broken, copy the other ones.
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17:01 lordawe map_meta.txt is readable: http://pastebin.com/dKUfpcTf
17:03 lordawe wow, FIXED
17:03 lordawe The error was in env_meta.txt, there were some gibberish
17:05 lordawe I just copied three lines in it and it is working now! game_time = 1705, time_of_day = 7373, EnvArgsEnd
17:05 lordawe Thank you
17:05 ElectronLibre So I was right, it was corrupted.
17:05 lordawe yes
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17:06 lordawe I dunno why but it crashes from time to time, it is latest 64bit windows build with dreambuider_game
17:06 lordawe nothing special
17:06 lordawe :(
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17:13 toothpick I wish I didn't get server crashes when trying to load .we files with world edit
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17:17 luizrpgluiz ElectronLibre: hi
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17:21 ElectronLibre Sometimes it happens to me with the windows 64-bit build too.
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18:08 rubenwardy Compiling... compiling...
18:08 rubenwardy Such is my life
18:12 SylvieLorxu Oh hush, I'm trying to get Firefox 36 to compile but it refuses
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18:20 Krock rubenwardy, compiling Life (C) (R) (TM) 2015?
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18:24 luizrpgluiz someone here could teach me some mapgen?
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18:27 srifqi anybody on-line?
18:27 rubenwardy Here
18:28 srifqi oh, good evening, rubenwardy
18:28 * Krock ain't here
18:29 srifqi are you sure, Krock?
18:29 * Krock is sure.
18:29 srifqi really?
18:31 toothpick I need a working .we file to test.
18:32 srifqi find it at forum, maps section
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18:35 luizrpgluiz I'm enjoying seeing they are putting in new minetest as the bed
18:35 luizrpgluiz :D
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18:36 srifqi :D
18:37 srifqi hi proller (freeminer) (am i right?)
18:37 luizrpgluiz Krock: will have more things in the new version of minetest beyond the bed?
18:37 Krock look at the changes list
18:38 proller srifqi, yep
18:38 luizrpgluiz Krock: what is the link that has these changes?
18:38 srifqi yay,
18:38 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commits
18:39 srifqi !calc 9+9
18:39 srifqi !c 9+9
18:39 MinetestBot 18
18:39 exio4 oh look, it's a bunch of people talking
18:39 exio4 \o
18:39 srifqi ah, !c not !calc
18:40 srifqi proller, have you heard about blokel?
18:40 srifqi https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=14&t=11355
18:40 srifqi !help
18:40 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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18:42 Krock I doupt he cares about a new fork
18:42 nrzkt a new fork ?
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18:43 Krock a spoon of minetest
18:43 troller srifqi, no
18:44 srifqi troller? who are you?
18:44 srifqi I was saying to proller, not troller
18:44 troller but..
18:45 nrzkt a spoon ? he eats what ? soup ?
18:45 Krock srifqi, you know what !c "cat" == "cat" returns
18:45 troller hahaha
18:46 srifqi troller: jk, who are you really?
18:46 srifqi Krock: no, let me try it
18:46 Krock nrzkt, yes. the kitten love soup and minesoup is the best of it
18:46 srifqi !c "cat" == "cat"
18:46 MinetestBot True
18:46 srifqi True
18:46 srifqi same as:
18:46 srifqi !c true != false
18:46 MinetestBot NameError: name 'true' is not defined
18:46 Krock srifqi, same goes to troller s/t/p/
18:46 srifqi LOL
18:47 srifqi troller == sroller == proller?
18:47 srifqi Krock,
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18:47 Krock "s/" as of string replacement
18:48 srifqi example?
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18:49 srifqi wb, proller
18:50 srifqi Krock?
18:51 Krock wat.
18:51 srifqi can you help me, again?
18:51 Krock do you need a rebase again??
18:51 srifqi Krock, can you do this: https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/1964#issuecomment-76769471?
18:52 srifqi Krock, can you do this: https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1964#issuecomment-76769471 ?
18:52 srifqi maybe,
18:52 srifqi i still don't understand
18:52 toothpick How do I have the daily builds just an apt-get update apt-get install away?
18:53 Krock srifqi, I think you finally should learn how to do it
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18:53 toothpick Think I found it.
18:53 DanGeRGhosT S.a
18:53 srifqi okay
18:53 srifqi what does "CTCP VERSION"?
18:53 srifqi means?
18:54 Krock it's just to check your OS, I was too lazy to ask
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19:01 rubenwardy http://loser.com
19:05 srifqi rubenwardy, Kanye West?
19:06 rubenwardy A rapper.
19:06 rubenwardy Yeah.
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19:11 toothpick Ok, so I am running the daily server now, and just having difficulty with worldedit loading schems.
19:12 toothpick Undeclared global variable "drops" accessed at ...t/games/dreambuilder_game/mo​ds/item_tweaks/item_drop.lua:5
19:14 ElectronLibre ^ VanessaE .
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19:24 toothpick originx nil value is the error I get with worldedit when trying to load a .we file
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19:28 toothpick Which would you recommend .we or .mts for importing?
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19:29 srifqi .we is readable, .mts is smaller. (am i right?)
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19:57 toothpick Something is peculiar. The apartments which were in a zip file from https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7304 here load fine.
19:57 toothpick The pirateship.we from the same place crashes with that nil error in worldedit.
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19:57 toothpick I'm out of time to troubleshoot at the moment.
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20:07 toothpick The we files that I have received in a .zip work.
20:07 toothpick the ones that I used wget file.we do not.
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21:02 * JordachB meows at sfan5
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21:11 farfadet46 hi
21:12 ElectronLibre Hello farfadet46.
21:13 farfadet46 par rapport au wiki, la page FR n'est pas a jour par rapport au N° de minetest on est toujours sur la 0.4.11
21:14 ElectronLibre #minetest-fr <<
21:14 Calinou je regarde
21:14 * ElectronLibre thinks too much of std::cout;
21:15 Calinou le changement sera désormais automatique, j'utilise un template
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21:15 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.net/Template:Version
21:17 Calinou {{Version}} automatically calls the latest version
21:19 farfadet46 cool ;)
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21:19 ElectronLibre ^ That is funny that you can read it in french and in english and understand it the same way.
21:20 farfadet46 It's deliberate ! ;)
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21:27 JordachB ElectronLibre, i barely can even read french and i understand it by looking at it
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21:28 ElectronLibre So it must be a pain for you JordachB to be on MinetestForFun's channel x)...
21:29 JordachB ElectronLibre, i don't have a problem reading it
21:29 ElectronLibre Oh, ok.
21:29 JordachB it's basically reconstructing language chains from english words used from mods
21:30 ElectronLibre Interesting.
21:33 JordachB (in many cases, mesecons, etc)
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21:33 JordachC ಠ_ಠ wifi]
21:33 ElectronLibre So many Jordaches.
21:33 ElectronLibre My eyes must be tired.
21:34 JordachC ElectronLibre, nope, my desktop is turned on and my brother is playing Payday 2 on it
21:34 JordachC Jordach!
21:34 ElectronLibre Ok.
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21:39 * shadowzone wonders what pay day is
21:40 ElectronLibre The day when you receives some "$", before the governement get them back.
21:42 shadowzone ElectronLibre, lol
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21:43 Neolink2 how propagate by sheep?
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22:42 Chanku Hey
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