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00:12 stormchaser3000 i usualy use linux
00:12 stormchaser3000 but right now i am on windows 8.1
00:12 stormchaser3000 does anyone know how to compile minetest with visual studio 2013?
00:12 stormchaser3000 on a 64 bit system
00:14 exio4 all I can tell you is that it is possible to compile minetest with it
00:15 est31 stormchaser3000, is it possible to use cygwin?
00:15 exio4 how "easy" it is? about as easy as installing a random linux distro without keyboard, mouse, ssh server, and screen :D
00:16 stormchaser3000 :D
00:16 stormchaser3000 XD
00:16 stormchaser3000 windows is hard as !@#$
00:16 stormchaser3000 i might use like mingw
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00:38 est31 how can you cut something out and then paste it somewhere else with worldedit?
00:42 LazyJ est31, within the same world or between two different worlds?
00:42 est31 same world
00:42 est31 some player placed a chest where they shouldnt
00:42 est31 want to move it
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00:44 LazyJ I would make two files, one - a .we file and the other an .mts (mtschem).
00:44 LazyJ I don't recall which one preserves the meta-data (content).
00:44 est31 ?
00:45 LazyJ Set pos 1 and 2 in opposite corners of the chest and then use   //save <give_it_a_name>.
00:45 LazyJ Then the second one would be     //mtschemcreate <give_it_a_name>.
00:46 LazyJ The clean-up by deleting the chest     //set air
00:46 LazyJ To place the chest somewhere else, set pos1.
00:47 LazyJ Then     //load <the_name_you_gave_it>
00:47 est31 ok is there some //rm command=
00:47 est31 just //save worked too
00:47 LazyJ Not that I'm aware of yet, but WorldEdit has had some changed in the past month or so.
00:48 LazyJ The second placement option is     //mtschemplace <the_name_you_gave_it>
00:49 LazyJ Someone once told me that the   //save and //load   was for buildings and    //mtschemcreate and //mtschemplace   were for landscape stuff.
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00:50 LazyJ I've used   save/load   for my stuff but I didn't have to worry about chest contents.
00:51 LazyJ When in doubt, try it out in a singleplayer test world.
00:52 est31 I've just copied it and then checked the copy and then deleted the original
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02:28 ripdisk_ hey LazyJ
02:28 ripdisk_ are you around still?
02:28 LazyJ Yup.
02:28 ripdisk_ i had a house call so i had to leave abruptly
02:28 ripdisk_ i do apologize
02:28 ripdisk_ but i'm back
02:28 LazyJ No worries. Real life comes first, always.
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02:30 ripdisk_ is this real life? is this gonna last forever?
02:31 LazyJ Sure. For low-low monthly payments you to can have a real life just like Bill.
02:31 ripdisk_ wtf
02:31 ripdisk_ bill?
02:31 ripdisk_ my name's uh....bill
02:31 ripdisk_ .
02:31 LazyJ Or Bob... whoever is the mark in the infomercial ;)-
02:31 ripdisk_ oh
02:31 ripdisk_ ok
02:32 ripdisk_ so anyway though um, LazyJ , you should check your pm real quick :)
02:32 ripdisk_ (gigidy)
02:32 ripdisk_ no, jk jk, but really check it
02:32 ripdisk_ .....gigidy.
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03:26 whtemple1959 I have two question for which I have not been able to find answers for. 1 why is the creation of slabs limited to certain materials? 2 how do I create a ahand held map so I can see where I am going?
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03:42 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Wrap lines longer than 80 characters in lua_api.txt ...and minor formating changes 2b189d4 http://git.io/xTuJ (2015-02-27T13:41:17+10:00)
03:42 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix minor memory leak (Android) 338e66a http://git.io/xTuU (2015-02-27T13:40:27+10:00)
03:56 Tiktalik how's minetest doing?
03:56 Tiktalik whtemple1959, minetest isn't an exact copy of minecraft
03:56 Tiktalik are there even handheld maps
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03:59 VanessaE there are a couple of in-game mapping mods, yes
03:59 LazyJ whtemple1959, default slabs and slabs from MoreBlocks can be extended to other materials but it requires editing the mod code.
03:59 VanessaE but they don't work like the minecraft ones do.
04:00 LazyJ whtemple1959, what VanessaE said.
04:01 VanessaE whtemple1959: and the reason for not just randomly defining every node to be a stair/slab/etc is aht minetest doesn't use "one model, any textures" to do it.
04:01 VanessaE rather, each combination of shape and texture is one distinct node.
04:01 VanessaE and minetest does have limits to how many nodes it can load (32766)
04:02 VanessaE there are some loose plans to make it possible to do "one model, any textures" but when that will happen, I have no idea.
04:02 VanessaE there is code that implements it, too
04:02 est31 dreambuilder has reached 20k
04:02 VanessaE (I've played around with it)
04:02 VanessaE est31: naw, only about 15k
04:03 est31 VanessaE, ok can be. perhaps its only the number of recipes
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09:53 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Strawberry Day! :-D
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11:38 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Add find_surface_nodes_in_area LUA call which permit to only get the nodes which touch air. This permit to massively improve performance for mods like plantlife 0f556d0 http://git.io/xIJI (2015-02-27T21:34:33+10:00)
11:43 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Change find_surface_nodes_in_area to find_nodes_in_area_under_air fdb9140 http://git.io/xIUD (2015-02-27T21:42:00+10:00)
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15:01 Neolink2 who can code a timer that toggles port A every two seconds
15:02 Neolink2 for example to me
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15:11 Neolink2 couls anyone help me?
15:12 nrzkt no
15:12 nrzkt :p
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15:22 Neolink2 someone help me
15:22 est31 Neolink2, what's your issue
15:22 Neolink2 it's npthing
15:23 Neolink2 I need code a timer
15:25 est31 for what
15:25 est31 minetest lua?
15:25 Neolink2 yes
15:25 Neolink2 ode a timer that toggles port A every two seconds
15:26 est31 port?
15:26 Neolink2 for example to me
15:26 Neolink2 port may be any
15:27 est31 Perhaps you want this : http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.after
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15:32 Neolink2 it's language of minetest
15:32 est31 yes
15:33 Neolink2 i mean a luacontroller language
15:34 est31 ah that you mean with port
15:34 est31 for basic timing, you can use blinky lamps
15:35 est31 and for advanced timing, there are interrupt
15:35 est31 interrupts*
15:36 ipv6b Does anybody know of a German minetest server which had translations inside the game? I mean like when doing a mouseover on cobblestone it would ie say "Pflasterstein".
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15:39 Neolink2 i can't do it
15:39 est31 so whats the problem?
15:40 Neolink2 I don't know how write it
15:40 Neolink2 a timer that toggles port
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15:42 est31 I showed you the website
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15:44 Neolink2 I need write it in luacontroller you give me website about programming of minetest
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16:22 Neolink2 i did it
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17:11 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:11 rubenwardy Please delete, I realised that the post was stupid: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=171203#p171203
17:13 rubenwardy Propietary, but it pretty cool. It guesses what character you are thinking are based on your responses to questions (which can only be yes, no, don't know, probably, probably not) http://en.akinator.com/
17:20 rubenwardy It is very hard to get something it doesn't know about
17:20 rubenwardy It doesn't know about Sam from Minetest, for obvious reasons
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17:59 VanessaE FUUUUUUUCCCKKK
17:59 VanessaE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
17:59 VanessaE http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/02​/27/1734228/leonard-nimoy-dies-at-83
17:59 * Tiktalik hugs VanessaE
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18:37 w_laenger hi
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18:38 w_laenger what is this site about? http://www.slashtime.net/
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19:15 w_laenger bye
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19:39 Krock !title
19:39 MinetestBot Krock: Slashtime
19:41 Krock Agh damn, don't click that horror link.
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20:28 Johnsen2 Shadowzone
20:29 Johnsen2 Whats te other address for inchranet cannel
20:29 Johnsen2 Channel
20:29 est31 go to irc.inchra.net
20:30 est31 point your irc client there.
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20:30 Johnsen2 I idbut itdidnt work it sys ENOTFOUND or whatever stupid stuff :-V
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20:35 Johnsen2 I tink i remember playing with AnotherBrick on  server
20:36 w_laenger I saw AnotherBrick on the just test server I think
20:36 AnotherBrick confirm
20:36 AnotherBrick i was on just test
20:36 Johnsen2 Wrong i saw him with BudderWorrier i think
20:37 Johnsen2 The srver name starts wth a S i suppose it was two or one year ago
20:38 Johnsen2 He was my best friend
20:39 Johnsen2 Hey i forgot my google play store doesnt work when i tab on a game it says that google play store has stopped
20:39 AnotherBrick bloster? clip? or some strange server with turned off climb bug?
20:40 w_laenger I played on bloster with Krock
20:40 Johnsen2 No wrong the name was like seville? nope.... uh icant remember
20:40 w_laenger globis survival server?
20:40 Johnsen2 But you had a farm and was mking bread in furnace i remember
20:41 w_laenger with Jotrx space station
20:41 w_laenger and the big whirlwave tower at spawn
20:41 w_laenger sky station*
20:41 AnotherBrick i do that on every server :D
20:41 Johnsen2 The server that i was stuck in sme kind o arena and i chouldnt get out
20:42 w_laenger in a volcano?
20:42 Johnsen2 AnotherBrick remember BudderWorrier?
20:43 w_laenger from "mconline" server
20:43 AnotherBrick can you describe BudderWorrier?
20:43 w_laenger with the french admin
20:43 Johnsen2 The srver shut down then it wasnt on anymore
20:44 w_laenger was it CWorld?
20:44 Johnsen2 IDK MAN i just remember long tme ago memories then forget them
20:44 Johnsen2 It was a server with monsters
20:44 AnotherBrick and unusual textures?
20:44 AnotherBrick and strange mobs?
20:45 Johnsen2 The server nme starts with a S
20:45 Calinou Johnsen2, Minetest is not in the Play Store
20:45 Johnsen2 Anotherbrick with like zmbies yes strange mobs and txsures Correct
20:46 Johnsen2 Calinou, minebuild Is in play store :-P
20:46 AnotherBrick i remember some server, there were everything made out of cubes. trees, land. even players.
20:46 Calinou Johnsen2, it is an illegal build
20:46 Calinou stop using it
20:46 Calinou use an official build instead, as found on minetest.net
20:47 AnotherBrick Johnsen2 : yes i remember BudderWorrier
20:47 w_laenger I want cats with sounds in minetest. http://imgur.com/gallery/pBlElRn
20:47 Johnsen2 What you think.... why would i use that laggy minebuild i play minetest on computer but i cant play anymore
20:47 w_laenger there's a picture of CWorld http://i.imgur.com/OFnwYR4.jpg
20:48 Calinou or just play on a PC
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20:48 Johnsen2 Anotherbrick yea and there was a player that ws budderworriers friend tat made ashop the n itwas flooded wih water and there was signs
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20:49 Johnsen2 Calinou, i cant play on a pc anymore im on tablet
20:50 w_laenger swiado.me?
20:50 Johnsen2 I cant type good because m keyboard doesnt wrk god o tablet
20:50 Johnsen2 Good.
20:50 w_laenger Simpletest?
20:50 Johnsen2 Wrong the server was sme name that starts wth a S
20:50 w_laenger stormchaser3000noip?
20:51 Johnsen2 Noooo
20:51 Johnsen2 Wait storms server is online again?
20:51 w_laenger mc-team.org?
20:51 Johnsen2 Im gnna see when im gnna play on mineplex
20:51 w_laenger Survival. No rules?
20:51 Johnsen2 UGH im outa here gg
20:52 Johnsen2 Gtg
20:52 w_laenger ShrekIsLove?
20:54 Johnsen2 No
20:54 Johnsen2 Wrong
20:54 w_laenger ok
20:54 Johnsen2 bye
20:54 w_laenger bye
20:55 Calinou lol, Min£pl€x
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20:56 farfadet46 hello
20:59 farfadet46 somebody can help me with "minetest.register_chatcommand"
21:00 est31 farfadet46, what do you need
21:00 farfadet46 i can't show a windows like in exemple in wiki
21:01 est31 press "i"
21:01 est31 it only modifies the inventory view
21:01 est31 doesnt force showing the inventory
21:01 est31 or displays a window
21:02 farfadet46 chatcommand ins't like "/time ..."
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21:02 est31 but?
21:03 w_laenger using math.floor(n) instead of n-n%1  is ~0.83 times slower
21:04 farfadet46 i want make a little mod where the player can enter a chat command to see a windows where he can choose a quest
21:04 w_laenger using math.floor(n) instead of n-n%1  is ~1.2 times faster
21:04 farfadet46 like this mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.​php?f=11&amp;t=11265&amp;hilit=quest
21:04 iio7 I have been running Minecraft on a small AMD Sepron 2100+ with about 5-10 users with lag. I was hoping I could run Minetest on the same box instead, but even the vanila Minetest is causing huge lags on the box and the CPU is constantly on 100%. Are there any ways to optimize Minetest for the hardware?
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21:05 est31 farfadet46, you can look up the source code for that mod
21:05 w_laenger you can reduce the global step I think
21:05 est31 here it is :https://github.com/TeTpaAka/​quests/blob/master/init.lua
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21:07 Calinou iio7, what Minetest version/operating system?
21:07 Calinou which mods?
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21:08 iio7 I have tested vanila, ie. no extra mods, on Alpine Linux and Debian Linux, both 0.4.11 and 0.4.12.
21:09 iio7 CPU is constantly on 100% as soon as just one player is on.
21:09 farfadet46 est31 thank i have aldready take a look at this but i don't understand all this lua :/
21:09 farfadet46 my lua skill ins't very hight
21:10 iio7 Just for comparison when running Minecraft it is running at about 50% with 3 users on, occasionally jumping to 80 and this is with mods.
21:10 iio7 I was expecting a huge improvement going to Minetest due to C++ compiled instead of Java.
21:10 Calinou C++ is not much faster than Java
21:10 Calinou 10-20 %
21:10 Calinou and good Java is fast too
21:10 est31 java has GC
21:11 est31 GC is like a diva when it doesnt have enough RAM
21:11 Calinou also, Minecraft uses LWJGL, which is… native!
21:11 Calinou you can call native programs from Java
21:11 w_laenger can anyone help me with my mod?
21:12 Calinou don't ask to ask, just ask
21:12 iio7 Calinou, est31, but I would expect Minetest to perform just as well, if not better, but it is much worse - not in consuming RAM.
21:13 w_laenger sorry, that was against the rules, wasn't it?
21:13 Calinou no
21:13 iio7 But I guess since it is still under heavy dev, that it hasn't been optimized yet.
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21:13 Calinou we won't sanction someone for asking to ask, but it's bad practice
21:13 Calinou iio7, we've done lots of optimization actually
21:13 Calinou something is likely wrong on your system
21:13 iio7 Calinou, like what?
21:13 Calinou mostly in client though
21:14 iio7 Calinou, I have tested only client on Linux, on Alpine, Debian and Ubuntu, also both 0.4.10, 0.4.11 and 0.4.12, without improvements.
21:14 w_laenger currently I only added one wall side https://github.com/HybridDog/extr​ablocks/blob/master/init.lua#L509
21:15 iio7 Calinou, I have compiled all myself.
21:15 w_laenger to get glass
21:15 farfadet46 salut Calinou ;)
21:15 Calinou try tweaking server settings
21:15 w_laenger but somehow glass doesn't spawn on this wall
21:15 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=1825
21:15 Calinou active_block_range = 1 helps immensely
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21:17 w_laenger the node changes a cobble house, which Xanthin etc. hate, to a house with floor, wall and corners
21:17 iio7 Calinou, thanks I will try those different options and see if that helps.
21:17 w_laenger and glass
21:21 w_laenger a screenshot
21:22 w_laenger http://i.imgur.com/RRgx4m1.png there a simple house got removed
21:25 w_laenger Ive got a question about another mod.
21:26 w_laenger https://github.com/HybridDog/n​uke/blob/master/init.lua#L232
21:26 w_laenger I made a tool which mirrors the nodes using the player's look direction
21:27 w_laenger but somehow it doesn't work correctly if I use it diagonal
21:28 w_laenger so I make it approximate
21:30 w_laenger What do I need to change that I don't get this problem? http://i.imgur.com/Abnas9T.png
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22:27 luizrpgluiz hi all
22:30 luizrpgluiz hmmmm:how the world generator?(mapgen)
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22:39 hmmmm what?
22:41 luizrpgluiz hmmmm: you usually create multiple mapgens?
22:41 hmmmm ...no
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23:14 zat SHAWN! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0uCWjQ6Og
23:21 VanessaE someone needs to learn how to hold a camera.
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23:49 iio7 Is there an easy way to figure out which mods might conflict with other? I have added some mods which has "removed" tnt.
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