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00:04 Lugal ok
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00:07 ant___ hi
00:08 ant___ i'm playing with minetest's android version
00:09 ant___ and i'm trying to find an use with 3D printing, wich i did with the linux version
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00:09 ant___ is it possible to host a game while on the android version , can't find out right now?
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00:19 H-H-H hi guys would anyone happen to know if its possible to make a formspec non editable by any one but the creator
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00:38 bas080 H-H-H: Who is the creator?
00:38 bas080 A person in game or the modder?
00:38 bas080 nvm, he's gone
00:40 bas080 mutt is awesome! \o/. I cleaned up my Inbox without clicking checkboxes!
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00:47 tim_flatus OK, I'm going to compile minetest on debian - I haven't done this in a while, so ...
00:48 tim_flatus I want to install it in /usr/share/games/ - will make install do that? Or do I have to pass it some option
00:50 tim_flatus Neither tinoesroho's guide nor Calinou's script make that completely clear
00:54 tim_flatus I suppose I could just run make and copy it to the right place
00:57 Jordach !rtfm tim_flatus
00:57 MinetestBot tim_flatus, Someone thinks you should read the manual. The development wiki is at http://dev.minetest.net, the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net.
00:57 Jordach [x] rekt [ ] not rekt
00:58 tim_flatus I am
00:58 tim_flatus The README.txt suggests that it will be installed to /usr/bin
00:58 tim_flatus tI don't want it there
00:59 tim_flatus and so does http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
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01:58 sythe Hey, you guys like sandbox games; I'd really appreciate it if some of you filled out my 1-question survey on the design of mine: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/G273HKF
01:58 sythe You'll get a free download code when it's released
01:59 chrisf "1-question"
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01:59 chrisf also, hi sythe... been a while!
02:00 sythe chrisf: Haven't seen you in ages
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02:05 shadowzone hi, Menche.
02:05 shadowzone hi Zeno`
02:07 Menche hello
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05:39 devvy hey im working with the minetest engine and was wondering how to change the version number
05:39 devvy it seems its the function core.get_version()
05:39 Zeno`` change it?
05:40 devvy yes
05:40 Zeno`` in C++?
05:40 devvy or wherever possible
05:40 devvy what file say 0.4.12 or something?
05:41 devvy says*
05:41 devvy im trying to make a fork and Minetest 0.4.12 at the top isnt what i want :P
05:43 Zeno`` hmm
05:43 Zeno`` http://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest
05:44 Zeno`` where is your fork hosted?
05:44 devvy not completed
05:44 Zeno`` can I see it when it is?
05:44 devvy its more of a fun project that will just be for me and my friends, but sure u can
05:45 Zeno`` anyway, that URL I gave you should give you the info you need
05:45 devvy im not active here but when im done ill come here and share it with you
05:45 Zeno`` cheers
05:46 devvy wait, that page doesnt let me set it manually...
05:49 Zeno`` if you set it manually you'll have to change it every time you run cmake
05:50 devvy how do i reset the version?
05:50 Zeno`` I assume you cloned the repo with git?
05:51 devvy yes
05:51 devvy well, kinda, i just downloaded the source
05:51 Zeno`` just revert the changes then
05:51 Zeno`` hmm
05:52 Zeno`` should have used git :(
05:52 Zeno`` anyway you can sort of hardcode a version number
05:55 Zeno`` just change it in version.cpp
05:56 Zeno`` not a great way to do it, but *shrug*
05:58 devvy what folder is that in?
05:58 devvy nvm its in src
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09:37 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: update README.txt 109f0ff http://git.io/AZLM (2015-02-20T10:35:39+01:00)
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11:45 ipv6b I begin to like vanilla
11:46 ipv6b no mods whatsoever...
11:50 ipv6b As a basic idea...locked chests and door are still ungriefable so, that makes vanilla minetest not totally griefable :)
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13:20 MinetestBot MattJ: iqualfragile was last seen at 2014-12-19 17:41:29 UTC on #minetest
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14:10 LazyJ Where is the code that determines the size of the playername's above their avatars?
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15:05 rubenwardy Hi all!
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15:06 rubenwardy A friend gifted me Medieval Engineers on steam - I don't think he knew what computer I have
15:07 LazyJ Zeno`, any ideas how to fix this:
15:07 LazyJ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2363
15:07 LazyJ *this?:
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15:11 ipv6b cooldude are you there?
15:12 ipv6b !seen cooldude
15:12 MinetestBot ipv6b: Sorry, I haven't seen cooldude around.
15:29 ipv6b Does anybody know swaaws the minetest server from a long time back or has it just launched?
15:36 VanessaE LazyJ: your homedecor is outdated :P
15:36 VanessaE (those chains have since been replaced)
15:37 VanessaE about that font..  dammit I used to know how to fix that
15:37 VanessaE xyz showed me once
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15:40 LazyJ VanessaE, that's Zeno`s server, but still LG's HomeDecor hasn't been updated for a few months - too many chanes; I've been waiting for HomeDecor to settle down. ;)
15:41 VanessaE you'll be waiting a month of sundays fopr that :)
15:41 VanessaE for*
15:41 LazyJ mHmm.
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15:41 LazyJ One of my biggest concerns are the new, writable books.
15:42 LazyJ The text is not recorded in the logs and I don't want players leaving threatening, abusive book messages.
15:42 VanessaE ok, make an issue for that and I'll poke kilbith about it
15:42 VanessaE that's his department :)(
15:44 LazyJ Awhile back we had an unsavory character trying to setup a thieves' guild. He was encouraging some players to befriend other players and then steal/grief them.
15:44 LazyJ He thought he was being clever by using PM's and leaving signs in secret places.
15:46 LazyJ kilbith may not agree to having the books logged. He has a history on our server and believes I am a puritanical tyrant. I don't expect any help from him.
15:47 VanessaE heh
15:48 VanessaE [Nickname: LazyJ, classification: "puritanical tyrant" ,.. .. .. ERROR...ERROR..... DOES NOT COMPUTE]
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15:48 shadowzone VanessaE: Lol
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15:49 VanessaE speak of the devil :)
15:49 kilbith LazyJ, kilbith is agree to log the content.
15:49 VanessaE someone is always reading the logs :)
15:51 kilbith indeed, and may not appreciate incrimination in back
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16:05 LazyJ <VanessaE> LazyJ: your homedecor is outdated :P
16:05 LazyJ <VanessaE> (those chains have since been replaced)
16:05 LazyJ When will the chandeliers match the new chains?
16:05 VanessaE I don't yet know
16:06 LazyJ Are mesh nodes able to handle animations (the flames on the chandeliers)?
16:06 kilbith when i'll feel motivated to
16:06 VanessaE yep, that's easily done
16:07 VanessaE as long as "animations" can be done without moving parts of the model (in the case of the flames, that's a yes)
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16:18 ipv6b No but seriously, you never heard of swaaws before?
16:18 VanessaE nope
16:19 ipv6b That proves the point that it is a new server...I was misinformed.
16:19 VanessaE not necessarily
16:20 ipv6b !seen swaaws
16:20 MinetestBot ipv6b: swaaws was last seen at 2014-12-15 21:14:47 UTC on #minetest
16:20 ipv6b but I talked to the admin just yesterday
16:20 ipv6b VanessaE, how so?
16:21 VanessaE there's always that possibility of some really old-ass server existing that no one's ever heard of, because it's not advertised
16:22 ipv6b I have no clue why so many people join it. Many are on tablets and maybe they run some app that only connects to this server. Has such a thing happened before or is my imagination running wild?
16:23 VanessaE I dunno
16:23 VanessaE but,
16:23 VanessaE that "just test" server gets a ton of activity for some reason
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16:23 VanessaE even though, from what I'm told there's nothing to see there
16:24 shadowzone VanessaE: there isn't anything that happens there.
16:24 shadowzone It's the fact that it's an anarachy server that gives it some popularity.
16:24 VanessaE shadowzone: case in point.
16:24 ipv6b I found just test totally awesome. Anarchic but you can build a protection pretty easily, though I think mese is required.
16:24 VanessaE ipv6b: and yet, my FreeForAll server just sits there fallow.
16:25 VanessaE what does "just test" have that I don't? :P
16:25 shadowzone VanessaE: maybe set up an anarchy server, or adapt VE-FreeForAll into an anarchy server.
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16:25 shadowzone VanessaE: no rules, that's what.
16:25 VanessaE shadowzone: it already IS anarchy
16:25 ipv6b well the server I'm on now is the only server I think that supports IPv6. That's why I'm on it. I'm sorry if that looks like a stupid reason to you :D
16:25 shadowzone just test has no rules whatsoever
16:25 VanessaE there are no rules there except what the users themselves create
16:26 ipv6b but I think that has nothing to do why so many players connect to it.
16:26 shadowzone VanessaE: maybe they think "VanessaE set it up, must be boring cause of all her rules and stuff"
16:26 VanessaE :-/
16:26 ipv6b the servers advertises in its description about IPv6 so that peeked my curiousity...
16:26 shadowzone I don't get any players on my server.
16:26 * shadowzone burst out laughing
16:27 shadowzone ATP what a funny name.
16:27 shadowzone makes me think of A Toilet Paper, not sure why, but it does.
16:28 ipv6b VanessaE, don't you have any regulars on any of your servers?
16:28 VanessaE sure, plenty of regulars
16:28 ipv6b well, at least some people.
16:28 VanessaE but for any one server, not all that one
16:28 LazyJ Quantity of players is not necessarily a good thing.
16:28 VanessaE not all that many I eman
16:29 shadowzone VanessaE: My server got shut down.
16:29 VanessaE why
16:29 VanessaE ?
16:29 shadowzone server machine was powered off why the host was away.
16:29 ipv6b Also swaaws uses a version of minetest that doesn't have jungle trees.
16:29 VanessaE ipv6b: wow, old server
16:29 LazyJ I haven't checked yet, but does "Just Test" have a lot of mods or just a minimum?
16:29 ipv6b I compared with my version of minetest, it generated exact same terrain but all jungle trees were normal trees.
16:30 VanessaE oh, just a modified game?
16:30 shadowzone It's using v7
16:30 shadowzone Mapgen v7
16:31 * shadowzone pokes #minetest
16:31 ipv6b Most people I ask on the server, not only this one but also on just test use tablets to play.
16:31 shadowzone anyone alives, did I kill chat?
16:31 shadowzone I use a PC
16:31 shadowzone always.
16:31 ipv6b I had a hard time finding somebody using a computer.
16:32 shadowzone unless I get a tablet and use the official version.
16:32 ipv6b and Vikings was all about hiding the activity from their parents.
16:32 shadowzone the what?
16:32 ipv6b by using mobile phones or tablets.
16:32 shadowzone Oh..
16:32 ipv6b There was a server called VikingCrafters.
16:32 shadowzone I remember that.
16:33 shadowzone I don't hide it from my parents that I play Minetest
16:35 shadowzone I killed chat again.  :/
16:36 ipv6b I'm trying to understand why these servers are so popular. The server I'm on is pure vanilla.
16:36 ipv6b and its old, like VanessaE mentioned. I know it also because there are no jungle trees and no cotton.
16:37 ipv6b and more than 1 player plays it on their Ipads
16:37 ipv6b "survival craft" I think it was called. So far I've stumbled upon "buildcraft", "worldcraft". They always invent new names for the app stores.
16:38 ipv6b and the reviews seem to be mostly 5 stars.
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17:26 ipv6b Somebody managed to bring down the server
17:27 ipv6b I should talk to admin later today to see if I'm to blame for this, and what we should do. I hope we can at least upgrade to latest version of minetest.
17:28 * ipv6b will also try suggest disabling fire and boats
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17:33 ipv6b at least fire
17:38 * ipv6b thinks it's time for some IPv4 gaming
17:39 ipv6b at least until we get back online...
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18:28 Krock hi?
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18:36 ipv6b Hi Krock
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19:13 ipv6b Has anyone noticed that boats can cause lag?
19:15 STHGOM network lag or frame per second lag?
19:23 ipv6b Hmm...yes now I realize my question wasn't very specific.
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19:31 ipv6b Has anybody noticed the issue that if you place 4 boats exactly next to each other in a 2x2 area with water and you walk on top of them, a repeating 'walking' sound is heard. Like my character is walking repeatedly and very quickly although it is standing completely still on the boats.
19:31 ipv6b (was trying to find a way for others to easily reproduce this issue) Maybe a minor issue.
19:32 ipv6b or just a "glitch" that causes no harm.
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19:35 STHGOM it does for me too
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19:37 Dartmouth its probably a glitch, boats have a few. Try placing a boat while dirving one and "swtiching" to the one you just placed :P
19:37 Dartmouth driving* switching*
19:37 STHGOM ive noticed "tap dancing" other times too
19:37 STHGOM dont remember exactly when tho
19:39 ipv6b brb
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20:53 rubenwardy http://wiki.mcrcoderdojo.org.uk/i​ndex.php/Make_Your_Own_Easter_Egg
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20:55 rubenwardy comments in here may be interesting: https://groups.google.com/foru​m/#!forum/manchestercoderdojo
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21:02 ipv6b The boats really bounce up and down when hitting running water...
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21:21 Jordach rubenwardy, thought it was unrelated m8
21:22 rubenwardy Heh?
21:22 rubenwardy The group is about a gathering which want to include MT
21:22 rubenwardy Oh, the egg
21:22 rubenwardy http://wiki.mcrcoderdojo.org.uk/i​ndex.php/Make_Your_Own_Easter_Egg    in Minetest
21:24 est31 " Minetest -- it is like Minecraft but much better for programming. "
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21:32 rubenwardy What do you think about a project to provide resources for con (as in con in Comicon) to show off Minetest?
21:32 rubenwardy Leaflets, videos, subgames
21:32 rubenwardy Focused around getting kids to code
21:35 * Amaz wonders who is moving his mod topics withou him asking...
21:36 rubenwardy Lol. The last few times Vanessa E I think has moved them without me asking, as I always ask for them to be moved.
21:36 VanessaE not me.
21:37 rubenwardy Meh
21:37 Amaz I'm not cross or anything, just curious at this phenemona! The magic mod moving mod.
21:37 rubenwardy automagikally
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22:56 Calinou https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-​bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778853
23:01 est31 how can you sit down?
23:01 paramat hi hmmmm, i'd still like to see you contribute mgv8, if you want to and it's fun for you of course =)
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23:48 LazyJ VanessaE, BlockMen posted the avatar font problem fix as a pull request. I tried it out using your bitmap fonts and it works! The playername above the avatar's head is readable from a distance and gets smaller in proportion as you get closer to the player but still remains a legible size when standing near the player.    File:line to edit:  src/content_cao.cpp:965.   Change    getBuiltInFont    to    getSkin()->getFont
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23:54 ipv6b Hi Sokomine. I saw you connect.
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23:55 Nihao Hello Minetesters!
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23:57 Nihao I encounter a strange thing with a (for me) new tool: The sickle.
23:57 Nihao I like the idea, not to destroy the earth whilst farming.
23:58 Nihao The point is that it does not farm that well on my server -- and that it can be used to remove doors and chests.
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23:58 Nihao It removes even chests with content, the content is lost in that case.
23:59 LazyJ Hmm... That's not supposed to happen.
23:59 Nihao LazyJ: Sure not.
23:59 Nihao But server logs are formal.
23:59 Nihao Somebody knew that and used the tool for stealing and destroying.

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