| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
ekem |
Inocudom <3 u! |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: society is going down the tubes because people stopped caring about each other |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
it has exactly fuck all to do with tv or music |
| 00:00 |
ekem |
there is indoctrination and psycology at play in all media |
| 00:00 |
ekem |
to creat social order and create consumers |
| 00:00 |
Hirato |
the media lies |
| 00:01 |
ekem |
but its not lizard people mind control illumonot |
| 00:01 |
Inocudom |
Yep, that too, which said music and tv help with. |
| 00:01 |
ekem |
oh i spelled that wrong |
| 00:01 |
ekem |
ilomanunti |
| 00:01 |
Hirato |
lurmanardie |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: if you think music helps with that, you don't listen to enough music. |
| 00:01 |
ekem |
owloomanotigri |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
and if you think tv is the cause, you don't talk to enough people in the real world. |
| 00:01 |
ekem |
although we could be wrong and the lizard people have won already. |
| 00:02 |
ekem |
i used to work with a guy who listened to coast to coast with art bell relgiously. i remembered a famous episode where someone called in claming to be a time traveller |
| 00:02 |
ekem |
i proceeded to tell max, who was a veteran living in the woods with many weapons, that i was a time traveller, sent back to protect and guide him |
| 00:03 |
ekem |
i brought up the called to art bell |
| 00:03 |
ekem |
his eyes got really wide |
| 00:03 |
ekem |
he asked me what his name was, i guessed like john cause why not |
| 00:03 |
ekem |
apparently i was right, you could see this old timers wheels turning, like holy shit, this kids is a fucking time traveller |
| 00:04 |
Inocudom |
Just look at Minetest; the vast majority of people use crappy mobile ports/play on base game servers. And rather than build, they just dig random stuff and kill others. |
| 00:04 |
ekem |
i eventually couldnt help but smirk like an asshat, and he lightened up |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: no different than kids were in the last generation |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
they just used sticks and stones instead of mouse clicks and phones |
| 00:05 |
Hirato |
spelling illuminati that badly reminded me of this http://i.imgur.com/aCtRL3x.jpg :/ |
| 00:05 |
Inocudom |
And in fps, custom player models are, for the most part, a thing of the past. Most players just want to be invincible gods now. |
| 00:05 |
ekem |
Hirato++ |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: again, same as last generation. back then, it was cheat codes. |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: you're trying to draw a conclusion that does not exist. |
| 00:06 |
Hirato |
now we pay for cheat codes |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
people today are the same as they were a generation ago, and a generation before that |
| 00:06 |
Hirato |
cheat code DLC |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
the only difference is how those people express themselves |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
not whether they actually DO |
| 00:06 |
* Hirato |
wishes he was joking |
| 00:06 |
ekem |
http://onebit.us/x/i/53W0O9GXds.jpg |
| 00:07 |
ekem |
the dark ages have fallen once more |
| 00:07 |
Hirato |
oh man, where did I put this one |
| 00:08 |
Hirato |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23891252/lolcrap/LaB0kRN.png found it |
| 00:09 |
ekem |
lol |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 00:10 |
Hirato |
that dropbox folder is full of such idiocy |
| 00:11 |
Hirato |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23891252/lolcrap/ss%20%282014-06-08%20at%2011.11.01%29.png |
| 00:12 |
Inocudom |
I am really getting tired of winter. I am tired of the constant windstorms that keep me up all night, the constant rain, the constant ice. |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: you need to learn to relax then |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
or move to a warmer climate. |
| 00:13 |
Hirato |
I hear Arizona's pretty nice :3c |
| 00:13 |
ekem |
http://www.npr.org/2014/01/12/261437992/lessons-on-blindness-for-the-benefit-of-those-who-see |
| 00:13 |
Inocudom |
Of course, summer is just as bad, if not worse, what with its storms, bugs, and heat. |
| 00:13 |
ekem |
i think thats the one |
| 00:13 |
SylvieLorxu |
Hirato: Are playtesters hired on their stupidity? |
| 00:13 |
ekem |
basically talks about how coddling those with vision impairement leads to them not developing other skills to help them percieve the world |
| 00:13 |
Hirato |
SylvieLorxu: who knows, would explain why games have just gone down the toilet after the 90's |
| 00:14 |
ekem |
same things happens to everyone in society, too many easy paths that dont give people the opportunity to develop critical thinking |
| 00:14 |
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| 00:14 |
Inocudom |
There are dangers and disasters everywhere though. |
| 00:15 |
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| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: so leave PA. sucky state for winter weather. |
| 00:16 |
Inocudom |
February, you don't experiece winter's true might until that month. |
| 00:17 |
Inocudom |
There is no way we could move. I wise man learns to accept facts. He learns to accept that some things really are impossible. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
a wise man accepts facts. a wiser man uses those facts to change his situation. |
| 00:18 |
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| 00:19 |
Inocudom |
I learned to do so with Sauerbraten, Freeminer, Urban Terror. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
if my husband and I, with a combined income equivalent to a single full-time minimum wage job, could move from Virginia and PA to Florida, to Missouri, to here in NC, so can you :P |
| 00:20 |
Inocudom |
How did in the world did you manage that? |
| 00:20 |
* tim_flatus |
attempts to join in but is laughing too much |
| 00:20 |
ekem |
here tim_flatus, i think i found your sides outside my house |
| 00:20 |
LazyJ |
Ah, VanesaE, perhaps you'll know the answer. |
| 00:21 |
LazyJ |
And, no, you can't run and hide. ;)- |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
by saving up some money, and just deciding it was time to gtfo, and taking out a small (less than $1000) loan. |
| 00:21 |
* VanessaE |
runs and hides. |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
what's up, LazyJ ? |
| 00:21 |
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| 00:22 |
LazyJ |
So.... normalmaps. What difference is there between having normalmap images in the texture pack vs using Minetest's normalmap toggle setting? |
| 00:22 |
ekem |
did you know a bee hive can get up to 90 degrees as the bees vibrate to keep warm? you can save a ton on your heating bill by installing a bee hive in your living room |
| 00:22 |
Inocudom |
You know a windstorm is powerful when its very sound rattles the house. |
| 00:22 |
ekem |
3Think Green! |
| 00:23 |
LazyJ |
Is it worth creating normalmaps or just letting Minetest handle it? |
| 00:23 |
Inocudom |
Normalmap images allow for parallax occlusion (3d effect.) |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: the "normalmap" setting in minetest, as distinct from "bumpmapping", generates on-the-fly normalmaps from the regular textures using a sort of "sobel" edging effect. the "bumpmapping" setting just enables the use of the normalmaps you supplied in the texture pack, which will have been generated by G*d only knows what steps, as the author of them dictates. |
| 00:24 |
LazyJ |
What I'm contemplating is creating normalmaps in GIMP for the texture pack I use. |
| 00:24 |
tim_flatus |
But is it worth creating them? |
| 00:25 |
LazyJ |
That's what I'm wondering. |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: do that, and enable "bumpmapping", but do NOT enable "normalmaps" |
| 00:25 |
tim_flatus |
and what orientation should they be? |
| 00:25 |
* Sokomine |
tries to avoid ekem's living room |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
whether it's worth creating normalmaps depends on your textures I guess |
| 00:25 |
LazyJ |
I've tinkered with a couple images. I can push the 'bumpiness' farther but for a lot of images, it's really not that great of a look. |
| 00:26 |
tim_flatus |
OK |
| 00:26 |
Inocudom |
I felt rather sick this morning. Linked to the storm, perhaps? |
| 00:26 |
LazyJ |
Which is easier for Minetest to handle (barring the GPU's strength)? |
| 00:30 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: more likely stress, or.... I dunno...you're just sick? |
| 00:30 |
VanessaE |
how about not linking shit together that has no causal relationship |
| 00:30 |
tim_flatus |
The mind is a very powerful thing ... |
| 00:30 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: plain normalmaps generated in gimp (or use insanebump/crazybump or whatever it's called) |
| 00:31 |
Inocudom |
Symbolism is the oldest language there is. |
| 00:32 |
Inocudom |
Does anybody know that the United Nations called this the Year Of Light? What is the reasoning for doing so? |
| 00:32 |
LazyJ |
Inocudom, hot chicken broth in your mug and oranges in your hand. |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: once they're generated and made active, either one is the same amount of GPU/CPU effort, but it does involve CPU effort for the generate-normalmaps mode to actually create them at startup |
| 00:32 |
Inocudom |
I only have coffee I'm afraid. |
| 00:32 |
tim_flatus |
Inocudom I could take your arguments apart point by point but that would be way OT for this channel. |
| 00:32 |
LazyJ |
Or kiwis. Those pack a lot of good stuff in a little package. |
| 00:32 |
tim_flatus |
You are right about symbolism though |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: probably nothing but politics. this is also the year of the goat according to the Chinese zodiac |
| 00:35 |
tim_flatus |
Is it already? did I miss the new moon? |
| 00:35 |
LazyJ |
If I've learned anything over the decades it's not to get too worked up over "symbols". |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
I just checked, that's it now, or what's coming once the chinese new year celebration ends I guess |
| 00:36 |
tim_flatus |
In four days ... |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
I was just rounding it up. |
| 00:37 |
tim_flatus |
I assume you're familiar with lunisolar calendars ... |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
vaguely so |
| 00:37 |
tim_flatus |
My specialist subject |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
Hebrew calendar is also |
| 00:37 |
tim_flatus |
Exactly |
| 00:37 |
LazyJ |
It is one thing to use a symbols as a gesture of respect (honoring the flag, for example) but entirely another thing if the symbol is taken to extremes by extremists. |
| 00:38 |
tim_flatus |
You need to get the context right. You can't mix graeco-Rooman with Hebrew |
| 00:38 |
LazyJ |
And with that, I'm ducking out of the conversation. |
| 00:38 |
* VanessaE |
burns LazyJ's symbol in effigy :P |
| 00:38 |
LazyJ |
Thanks for the normalmap advice VanessaE ;) |
| 00:38 |
tim_flatus |
Well, you can and you get Christianity |
| 00:38 |
tim_flatus |
and I'll stop there probably |
| 00:38 |
LazyJ |
NOoo!! Not the holy donut! |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
jk |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
well there goes the power, flickering |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
good thing I have good UPS's. |
| 00:47 |
Inocudom |
VanessaE: That power could go out you know. Those winds are quite strong. |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
oh well. |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
if goes out, it goes out. |
| 00:48 |
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| 00:48 |
miner67 |
hi |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
if it gets too cold, we get in the car and drive to somewhere that's warm. |
| 00:49 |
* est31_ |
experiences how undeterministic mapgen is |
| 00:49 |
Sokomine |
lazyj: don't do too much honorinig the flag when us germans are present. for us, that may seem as if you're a dangerous madman :-) and yet it's perfectly normal in your country |
| 00:49 |
est31_ |
on trepca, there is a public forest which gets reset every now and then using //deteleblocks |
| 00:49 |
Sokomine |
power flickering? |
| 00:49 |
est31_ |
which triggers mapgen |
| 00:49 |
miner67 |
i was wondering why when i play this game it spawns nothing but coal and cobble |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: imho, to hell with honoring just a flag. that's just dumb. |
| 00:50 |
Sokomine |
est31: it ought to be deterministic i guess |
| 00:50 |
est31_ |
there is a lake in which the players spawn, and the lake changes shape on every re-run of the mapgen |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
miner67: add some good mods and make a new map. plantlife and technic will add all kinds of stuff |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
+moreores |
| 00:50 |
est31_ |
in fact its a lake under a platform with a travelnet |
| 00:50 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: no, beeing afraid of people honoring the flag is a german thing. it was easy to say that removing the symbols would also remove the mentality. so the easy thing was done back in the past |
| 00:50 |
est31_ |
sufficient depth is required |
| 00:51 |
miner67 |
soi havetoadd mods to make the map better |
| 00:51 |
Sokomine |
est31: that's strange. are there any other mods involved? |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: well yeah I agree with that, but I stand by my statement that blindly honoring "a flag" is dumb. |
| 00:51 |
est31_ |
Sokomine, I dont think there are any mapgen mods. |
| 00:51 |
est31_ |
its mostly minetest_game |
| 00:51 |
LazyJ |
My brother is active duty military. For him and his fellows, the flag means a lot. I just chose it as an example that I thought everyone would have an easier reference too. |
| 00:51 |
Sokomine |
vanessae: that as well :-) |
| 00:52 |
miner67 |
there is not trees |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
for example, our schools strongly encourage our kids to recite the "pledge of allegiance", which starts out "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the US and to the republic for which it stands"... |
| 00:52 |
Sokomine |
est31: a travelnet in a world that's generated by mapgen? it's doable, but i know of no such mod that places travelnets |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
s/US/USA/ |
| 00:52 |
est31_ |
nono, the travelnet doesnt get generated by mapgen |
| 00:53 |
est31_ |
the //deletenlocks just doesn't catch it :) |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
miner67: don't use mapgen v7. |
| 00:53 |
Sokomine |
LazyJ: diffrent cultures. and ours are still so similar we sometimes forget. gets more complicated with people from other cultures i'm afraid |
| 00:54 |
Sokomine |
eleteenlocks? |
| 00:54 |
LazyJ |
True. |
| 00:54 |
Sokomine |
but you're right that it's not the symbols but what we make out of them |
| 00:54 |
miner67 |
when kind of mods would you recommend for this game |
| 00:54 |
Sokomine |
depends. what do you like, miner? |
| 00:54 |
est31_ |
Sokomine, if you are interested you can join trepca server. |
| 00:54 |
est31_ |
alket.mooo.com port 3000 |
| 00:55 |
est31_ |
30000* |
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| 00:55 |
miner67 |
i like trees grass and animals because there is none of that |
| 00:55 |
alket |
is that what mrcraft reported ? |
| 00:55 |
Sokomine |
est31: i'd rather like to hear more about your experiments. so far i tought mapgen always created the same landscape. at least core mapgen. mods are a diffrent matter. it does give me a headache to get the villages to be deterministic |
| 00:56 |
Sokomine |
miner: use dreambuilder. that comes with mods from the eden modpack and creates a beautiful landscape. mobf is also very nice. it can be run alongside other mods that spawn more diffrent creatures |
| 00:56 |
Sokomine |
i'm not up to date as to which mod comes with the most mobs. one has bees and the like - they're very nice |
| 00:57 |
Sokomine |
for trees, moretrees is very fine. that's included in dreambuilder as well |
| 00:57 |
miner67 |
ok thanks for the support :) |
| 00:57 |
est31_ |
and there is still weird random blocks spawning, mostly loops |
| 00:57 |
Sokomine |
loops? |
| 00:57 |
Sokomine |
you mean - like stone loops? |
| 00:57 |
Sokomine |
up in the air? |
| 00:57 |
est31_ |
cobble and mossy cobble yes |
| 00:58 |
Sokomine |
i sometimes have that as well. iirc that's a failed dungeon |
| 00:58 |
est31_ |
are there actually dungeons? lol |
| 00:58 |
Sokomine |
yes, you can enable them. they're connected rooms made out of cobble/mossy cobble. they're empty |
| 00:59 |
Sokomine |
mobf has (had?) dungeon masters which came with their own dungeons |
| 00:59 |
tim_flatus |
Yes that's a failed dungeon. I quite like them in an odd kind of way |
| 00:59 |
Sokomine |
once, they had settled the whole area in a singleplayer world of mine. that was a bit much. sapier reduced the probability for their appearance, and i havn't seen one since |
| 00:59 |
Inocudom |
I am just going to let you guys know right now. I heard that in the future, a license will be required for internet access. Seems like a few years off, but still. |
| 01:00 |
Sokomine |
inocudom: there are a lot of politicions who seem to want that. still, it's not that far yet |
| 01:00 |
Inocudom |
Why do the nastiest, most powerful windstorms have to happen at mkidnight? |
| 01:01 |
tim_flatus |
I use a stripped down version of paramat's mapgen for v7 it works rather nicely. |
| 01:01 |
Sokomine |
there might be a reason for that. the evening with it getting cooler might create wind. but i'm no expert |
| 01:01 |
tim_flatus |
Yes temperature differentials |
| 01:02 |
tim_flatus |
And cosmic rays, naturally ... |
| 01:02 |
Sokomine |
and it might also be more impressive to hear a storm at night when you can't see too far |
| 01:02 |
tim_flatus |
Like rain in a tent always sounds horrendous |
| 01:02 |
Sokomine |
but those cosmic rays are the same day and night? probably even stronger during the day due to the sun shining? |
| 01:02 |
tim_flatus |
And then you leave the tent and realise it's only softing |
| 01:03 |
Sokomine |
oh yes. that might be a huge effect |
| 01:03 |
tim_flatus |
I wasn't serious |
| 01:03 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
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| 01:04 |
Sokomine |
but we probably ought to find a way to cheer inocudom up. i don't know much about those storms...the weather is pretty tame over here most of the time |
| 01:05 |
Inocudom |
The cheering up will have to wait till Monday. Right now, I am focused on surviving the cold. |
| 01:06 |
Sokomine |
does it only feel cold, or is there a real threat? |
| 01:07 |
Sokomine |
we once had a party in an empty house that was for sale. it was below zero outside - and the host did not know how to operate the heating system :-(. we ended up using the fireplace...the house had one. but it was still very cold, and i didn't move away too far from the fire |
| 01:09 |
Hirato |
turn yourself into an android |
| 01:10 |
Inocudom |
I thought Hurricane Sandy was the worst windstorm I ever experienced. What's out there right now rivals even that. I am experiencing the most powerful windstorm I have ever, ever seen in my life. |
| 01:10 |
tim_flatus |
It's pretty natural to feel anxious when faced with survival issues |
| 01:10 |
Hirato |
it's time to enter the nuclear bunker |
| 01:11 |
Inocudom |
Thunderstorms are a joke. A pathetic joke. What's out there right now is the real deal. |
| 01:12 |
tim_flatus |
And yeah we get it easy in Northern Europe ... |
| 01:13 |
est31_ |
or central europe |
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| 01:15 |
* Sokomine |
nods to tim_flatus and est31 |
| 01:16 |
Sokomine |
inocudom: over here, if there's a storm, most of the danger seems to arise form people beeing hit by falling branches, trees or shingle. inside the house, it's as save as ever |
| 01:17 |
Inocudom |
Britain gets it pretty hard from what I hear. |
| 01:17 |
tim_flatus |
We don't get real hurricanes |
| 01:18 |
tim_flatus |
Particular;y not if you're inland |
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| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: unless you've got a tornado about to rip through your house, I'm sure you're not experiencing anything particularly dangerous |
| 01:24 |
Inocudom |
Yes, but the violence, the turbulance I am hearing out there right now... Only brief moments of thunderstorm rival it. Nothing else compares in my life. |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
blah |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
"That? Those were just downdrafts and microbursts." |
| 01:26 |
Inocudom |
How loud it is... How its very noise shakes the ground and the house. I remember nothing of the sort around here in the past, and such storms are becoming the norm. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
dude, I've wind gusts sounding like they wanna blow the house over, and limbs falling onto my roof right now. Hell the power just blinked out for several seconds, a minute ago |
| 01:26 |
tim_flatus |
Are you two in the same part of the sataes? |
| 01:27 |
tim_flatus |
I can't type anymore ... |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
tim_flatus: he is in Pennsylvania, I'm in Western North Carolina |
| 01:28 |
Inocudom |
Oh, if only we could move. But where too? Fierce windstorms and earthquakes strike the Midwest, and the northwest has volcanoes and fierce storms. Doesn't matter where you go, every place has its devil. |
| 01:28 |
tim_flatus |
My concept of distances in the states is a bit skewed. |
| 01:28 |
Inocudom |
And yes, that is what the winds at my house sound like, VanessaE. Never seen anything like it before. |
| 01:29 |
tim_flatus |
I assumed that someone from Dallas would have been to Austin, until someone explained that Texas is half the size of France |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
tim_flatus: around 800 km between him and I |
| 01:30 |
* tim_flatus |
does a quick mental calculation ... |
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| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: I've seen it many times. I stood out on my balcony and watched as hurricane Charlie blew through my area in Florida at the time, 60 mph winds blowing things around |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
tim_flatus: 490-odd miles. |
| 01:30 |
tim_flatus |
Here to Edinburgh roughly speaking |
| 01:30 |
Inocudom |
Yeah, but that's in Florida. That is normal there. |
| 01:31 |
tim_flatus |
How exciting :-/ |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: yep, and when I was still living in the midwest, which is is where I was born and raised, tornadoes were the common thing there. |
| 01:31 |
Inocudom |
That is not normal in Pennsylvania. |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
(though I'd never want to meet up with one) |
| 01:31 |
tim_flatus |
I did once get caught in a force 9 gale. That was quite weird. |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
actually, it is normal in PA too, just rare. |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
even NY got hit with a tornado recently. Brooklyn, 2010. |
| 01:43 |
tim_flatus |
Time to build something really strange |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 01:43 |
Inocudom |
Yep, here's the pressure bar map for the USA. Looking quite bad where I am at: http://www.usairnet.com/weather/maps/current/barometric-pressure/ |
| 01:49 |
tim_flatus |
OK I think I don't quite understand worldedit |
| 01:50 |
tim_flatus |
I want to make a large hollow sphere very deep in the map. I thought I only needed to set //pos1 but apparently that's wrong |
| 01:55 |
tim_flatus |
I think I have managed to make a solid sphere :/ |
| 01:56 |
tim_flatus |
nm |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
oops, there went my power. |
| 02:03 |
Sokomine |
tim_faltus: same here. it's all so far apart. they may say that it's close together, but... |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
and it's back. |
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Fatih_ |
Hello? |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
hi. |
| 02:05 |
Fatih_ |
Hey, can anyone help me? I found out about Minetest since I searched about if MCraft would be faster in C++ or C#. |
| 02:05 |
Fatih_ |
As i found, I used a 256x TP and my game is pretty smooth compared to MC. |
| 02:05 |
Sokomine |
ah. welcome, faith. we do think it is :-) at least on my machine |
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* VanessaE |
wonders which 256px pack it was ;) |
| 02:06 |
Fatih_ |
Now, I have my PC running on Japanese Unicode since I play A LOT of JP games |
| 02:06 |
Fatih_ |
(sphax) |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
oh he |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:06 |
Fatih_ |
So, as I played for the first time, the game was in japanese. |
| 02:06 |
Fatih_ |
So yeah, I'm wondering, how can i change it to english? |
| 02:06 |
Sokomine |
vanessae: power failure? those are very rare over here. they happen sometimes, but usually it's in the night, and the only thing one notices (if anything) is that the clocks are blinking and wanting to be set...and the computer has rebooted |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: yeah, it's pretty windy here. of course, a squirrel could fart on the power line and it would go out :P |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
Fatih_: minetest uses whatever your OS's locale is I guess |
| 02:08 |
Fatih_ |
So Im gonna have to switch my locale? :( |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
Fatih_: yep |
| 02:08 |
Fatih_ |
Darn |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
wait |
| 02:09 |
Fatih_ |
Well, Since i recognise some japanese words, Ill try to find out on my own. |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
you can override it I think |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
language = en |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
in minetest.conf |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
or maybe US_en ? |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
fiddle with that |
| 02:09 |
Fatih_ |
Ah |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
or en_us |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
I forget what the official name is for it |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
# Override language. When no value is provided (default) system language is used. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
# Check "locale" directory for the list of available translations. |
| 02:10 |
Fatih_ |
nothing in the conf |
| 02:11 |
Fatih_ |
Should I just remove all other locales in the folder? |
| 02:11 |
Fatih_ |
or will i have no text? |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
no need to remove anything, just add that setting to minetest.conf |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
language = en_us maybe |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
or something like that |
| 02:12 |
Fatih_ |
ill try |
| 02:12 |
Fatih_ |
anywhere? |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
anywhere in minetest.conf yeah |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
at the end is find |
| 02:13 |
Fatih_ |
ill use uk since i dont see anything similar to english |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
try it and see :) |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
is fine* |
| 02:13 |
Fatih_ |
Yay! It worked! |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
yay :) |
| 02:14 |
Fatih_ |
Well, it works, but I keep saying character conversion failed... heh... |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
you probably need to build against gettext or something |
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Fatih_ |
Well, thanks anyways, Vanessa! |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
of course I wonder if it isn't better to set your machine's locale back to normal and force Japanese locale in your other games instead |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, file a bug report please |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/new |
| 02:17 |
Fatih_ |
What should I say though? |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
Just write what you were trying to do, why your system is configured like it is, that you overrode the locale in minetest.conf, and that it resulted in those "conversion failed" errors |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
(I've seen those before too, but not in this sort of situation) |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
tell what works, what doesn't, and what you expected |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
try to be thorough, give a brief rundown of how to reproduce the errors |
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est31 |
was japanese unicode born because of CJK unification? |
| 02:21 |
Inocudom |
Yeah, this windstorm is downright wicked, and it will only get worse as the night goes on; it is a very long-lived one. |
| 02:22 |
est31 |
unicode not uni at all :/ |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
noi idea |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
-i |
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est31 |
the minetest.delete_area isn't as safe as thought |
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est31 |
completely ruined my spawn area :( |
| 02:41 |
est31 |
just wanted to restore some desert sand |
| 02:42 |
est31 |
and the stupid thing just filled everything else too -- with dirt |
| 02:42 |
* est31 |
is angry |
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VanessaE |
sounds like it triggered the mud reflow code? |
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est31 |
mud reflow? |
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VanessaE |
yeah |
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est31 |
lol |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
a terraforming routine that runs right after the initial terrain is generated |
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est31 |
awww |
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est31 |
and it even made trees |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
it tries to "smooth" the terrain a bit, eliminating spikes and such |
| 02:44 |
est31 |
but why do mud reflow for areas that didnt get deleted |
| 02:44 |
est31 |
its just so bad |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
because it goes off into neighboring blocks also |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
idk how it works though |
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est31 |
everything ... covered in mud |
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est31 |
minetest.delete_area just isn't safe yet |
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VanessaE |
"/deleteblocks here" seems to be reliable though |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
just played around a bit with it |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
even plantlife seems to work right with it :) |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
(I think) |
| 02:50 |
est31 |
it did remove the stuff |
| 02:50 |
est31 |
but unfortunately also triggered mud reflow for areas it wasnt supposed to |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
it reset the block to its natural state, then trees appeared (then plantlife went through and repopulated it) |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
but I'm not working in a built area, just my test map |
| 02:50 |
est31 |
do that in a built area |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
no :) |
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est31 |
I mean it wasnt precisely a build area |
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est31 |
I just removed something from a desert |
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est31 |
and this has to happen with my shitty 64 k internet :( |
| 02:55 |
est31 |
I'm impressed you can play MT at those internet speeds at all |
| 02:56 |
est31 |
and mud reflow not just covers in mud, it actually removes stuff |
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Bradford |
e_e |
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Bradford |
xd |
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Bradford |
Polsaker: xd |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
est31: the "removes stuff" is probably cavegen griefing |
| 02:58 |
est31 |
it got replaced by mud |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
cavegen only replaces by air |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
I had that too |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
no idea then :) |
| 02:59 |
JoeInNH |
Hi VanessaE. I modified Pipeworks to pump lava through the normal pipes. It works with spigot and furnace. It also has flowing lava from the spigot. Would like the changes |
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est31 |
its just a "feature" of mud reflow to actually replace with mud |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
JoeInNH: as long as your changes were made against the new_flow_logic branch |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
and are able to coexist with existing water-flow also |
| 03:01 |
JoeInNH |
Unfortunately, I made the changes to the a copy of the main branch |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
ok, well hold off for now then |
| 03:01 |
JoeInNH |
and they can co exhist with the water |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
est31: are you able to test that branch? |
| 03:01 |
Inocudom |
This is a thornews video about Winter Storm Neptune. Turns out that it is linked to a 7.5 earthquake in the Atlantic Ridge somehow: http://youtu.be/uNG6Ay0eowA |
| 03:01 |
est31 |
you know, you type some command and it takes effect about 3 minutes later. thats 64 kbps internet |
| 03:01 |
est31 |
not now sorry |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 03:01 |
* est31 |
has to clean up dirt |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: knock it off, man. it's just a winter storm. not the first, won't be the last, and it ain't gonna be tied to an earthquake in the Atlantic Ridge. |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
JoeInNH: if you could, try the new_flow_logic branch. see how it behaves (just with water - don't make any changes to it). I need testers :) |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to merge that to master sometime soon - from my own testing, it's at least feature complete relative to master, but works tons better in general |
| 03:05 |
Inocudom |
Bye. |
| 03:06 |
JoeInNH |
The way I changed it treats it seperately. I will take a look at the new_flow_logic branch. I believe I only changes 6 files (pipes, init, devices, flowing_logic, autoplace_pipes, and compat) |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
wow, yeah you're gonna end up having to completely rewrite your lava upgrade for the other branch, as THAT branch is itself a complete rewrite of the flowing logic. |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
anyway make sure you're at HEAD in both branches and that you have 0.4.11 (or better, a recent dev build) |
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coihue |
Hi people. Got MT 0.4.11 in ubuntu 14.04, doesnt get fullscreen |
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coihue |
how can I fix it? |
| 03:11 |
JoeInNH |
I amtesting it on 4.11, but I don't have git installed on my windows system, so I just grabbed a zip file and tagged it with the date & time I grabbed it. |
| 03:12 |
JoeInNH |
It's nice seeing a furnace with 99 blocks of lavain it |
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VanessaE |
coihue: minetest.conf, fullscreen = true |
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VanessaE |
(I think) |
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JoeInNH |
night everyone. |
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est31 |
today's lesson dont play around with minetest.delete_area |
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tim_flatus |
weird bug, Several new players have spawned at 0, 0, 0 despite spawn being set differently. Has anyone encountered this? |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
tim_flatus: yeah, known glitch |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
not sure why it happens |
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Sokomine |
character conversion failed? common sight on servers |
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tim_flatus |
The one who emerged fully claimed to be on a proper minetest client too |
| 03:42 |
tim_flatus |
What does that mean Sokomine? |
| 03:43 |
tim_flatus |
OK I'll have to do something to accommodate it I guess |
| 03:44 |
Sokomine |
est31: mapchunks intersect a bit. they're usually 80x80x80 (5 mapblocks), but overlap 1 mapblock in each direction, so they go 16 nodes at each side into already generated terrain |
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est31 |
but minetest.delete_area only removes mapblocks, doesnt it |
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tim_flatus |
nm I can google |
| 03:48 |
Sokomine |
tim_flatus: i'm not sure. i thought it might be umlaute and other national characters |
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Sokomine |
est31: hmm. and then they're gone, and need to be generated again? |
| 03:48 |
est31 |
no, they just got covered in dirt |
| 03:49 |
est31 |
and trees were planted too |
| 03:50 |
est31 |
and actually there is some mod playing with mapgen: tenplus1's farming mod |
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est31 |
just not sure whether that one is determinsistic |
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tim_flatus |
Both characters had names in standard latin script. I built a stairway. |
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tim_flatus |
And a sign Douglas Adams would have beenproud of ;-) |
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ekem |
beward of the leopard |
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tim_flatus |
Right |
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tim_flatus |
Anyway gute nacht and nos da zzzz |
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grendal_prime |
hey daughter and her friends are playing a game, she is hosting (they are scattered all over the house) The daughter can fly, but the visitors to her world can not. is there a way to turn that on for everyone? |
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est31 |
grendal_prime, you can either try to do /grant playername fly |
| 04:26 |
est31 |
or you can turn off the game and edit the auth.txt and turn it back on |
| 04:26 |
grendal_prime |
hmm how do i get the terminal on that game? |
| 04:26 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Uberi -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #72 from HybridDog/globalfix https:/ http://git.io/NiuI (2015-02-14T23:25:20-05:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] HybridDog -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: fix an error message https:/ http://git.io/NiuL (2015-02-14T23:10:21+01:00) |
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est31 |
just type t or f10 |
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grendal_prime |
thanks ill give it a shot |
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est31 |
f10 is more terminallike |
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grendal_prime |
cool that worked thanks, i forgot at first you have to press k but kid figured that out |
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est31 |
you can also set a "default_privs =" value in minetest.conf, but that only is effective for new players |
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grendal_prime |
ya i think we are done. they are building a hugeass castle..and everyone gets their own hottub. (14 year old girls) |
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grendal_prime |
horses on each side of the castle, corvette in every garage. |
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grendal_prime |
No dirty dishes or even sinks for that matter. massive flat, patio roof on top of the castle with a basketball cort and swimming pool. No supports underneath (someone needs to build a " structural reality check" module for this thing man. |
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est31 |
it enables to be more creative |
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est31 |
would make game harder otherwiser |
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grendal_prime |
ya, but..well...lets face it..it sucks when you work hard on something and your kids says, "well i built an entire castle in mintest and everything was totally simple dad!" |
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est31 |
flying is simple too in minetest |
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grendal_prime |
I have to admit though my daughters spacial awareness has greatly increased. |
| 04:48 |
grendal_prime |
and we were poring some concrete the other day putting in a fence post and she says..."wait, that hole is round? ooooh ya, we can do that in this world!" |
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grendal_prime |
and dude it was a total moment, she actually had a "awww snap" about it and everything. |
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est31 |
lol |
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grendal_prime |
Shes funny as hell like that. |
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grendal_prime |
I was talking to this other parrent the other day about here ..and she she tells me, "you know my daughter was telling me how cool your daughter is the other day . she said " ya gracie just says words, they are not real words, i swear she makes them up on the spot! thing is everybody knows what shes talking about. We tell her all the time, (hey thats not a word) but she just says she doesnt care and goes on doin |
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grendal_prime |
g whatever the hell. |
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grendal_prime |
hehehe |
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est31 |
ShadowNinja, I'm not so sure anymore whether I really want the //deleteblocks command in worldedit anymore. |
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est31 |
people like me might just use it, and then comes mud reflow, and destroys everything :[ |
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grendal_prime |
hey guys |
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grendal_prime |
i teach at a charter school and the mentioned something about a minecraft educational edition. Like teching class in a minecraft environment. Have you guys heard of this and is this something minetest might be able to leverage? |
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grendal_prime |
it seems pretty whacky but minecraftedu |
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grendal_prime |
minetest on chromebook? |
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est31 |
mud reflow grief mostly repaired |
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est31 |
are old rollback logs deeted, or do I have to do this myself? |
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danthemango |
How is Minetest on Android doing? |
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danthemango |
Nobody tried it? ok then |
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Xenoth |
danthemango: It seems alright to me. Haven't updated my android build in a while. I'm on a 7 inch tablet. |
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danthemango |
oh cool, thanks |
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danthemango |
I guess I should try it out. Are there controls on the screen? |
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bleak_fire_ |
hi |
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bleak_fire_ |
there is an individual who is hacking servers to manipulate spawn locations and steal from protected areas |
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bleak_fire_ |
his name is "TriGer_Fear" and he has been harassing me on vitaminx's "pizza server" for a week now |
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bleak_fire_ |
but he just started hacking |
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bleak_fire_ |
i am trying to get a hold of someone who can ban him |
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bleak_fire_ |
home locations |
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bleak_fire_ |
i mean |
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bleak_fire_ |
like he will change it so he can keep pk'ing you |
| 06:54 |
bleak_fire_ |
i thjink he actually did change the spawn location for me |
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CaveJohnson |
hi :) |
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bleak_fire_ |
hi |
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bleak_fire_ |
do you know? because i am incredibly pissed off |
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bleak_fire_ |
this guy has absolutely no life |
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bleak_fire_ |
oh yeah |
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bleak_fire_ |
he can also modify your teleport privileges |
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bleak_fire_ |
so you can only teleport to certain people, or not at all |
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CaveJohnson |
i don't, sorry bleak_fire_ |
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bleak_fire_ |
have you heard of anyone being able to do that? |
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bleak_fire_ |
well i just pm'ed vitaminx via the forum |
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bleak_fire_ |
hopefully he'll take care of this fucker |
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bleak_fire_ |
:) |
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bleak_fire_ |
hey do you know how to make the single-player mode not lose your items when you fall? |
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Krock |
disable the bones or disable damage |
| 07:25 |
bleak_fire_ |
i found most of pizza's mods on the site and installed them |
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bleak_fire_ |
how do you disable bones? |
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Krock |
Comment out this line https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/bones/init.lua#L144 |
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bleak_fire_ |
i'd rather have damage but not lose the items e.g. if i fall |
| 07:26 |
Krock |
and the "end" two lines below |
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bleak_fire_ |
is there any easy way when you're using windows binaries? i dont have linux on my desktop anymore |
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bleak_fire_ |
also, does "disable damage" affect falls? |
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bleak_fire_ |
wait i see the lua is in the directory |
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Krock |
disable damage disables all damage |
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bleak_fire_ |
but there's no "mods/bones" directory |
| 07:29 |
Krock |
yes, open the file with notepad++ or similar |
| 07:30 |
Krock |
the "bones" directory should be in your subgame directory\mods\ |
| 07:30 |
Krock |
Otherwise, you're using an other mod, like dropondie |
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bleak_fire_ |
\games\minetest_game\mods\bones |
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Krock |
depends if you use minetest_game or something else |
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Krock |
I guessed you do, thus, I've sent you that link to the official codes |
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bleak_fire_ |
i commented it out, let me try |
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bleak_fire_ |
yep that did it thank you |
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bleak_fire_ |
goodnight |
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bleak_fire_ |
time for bed |
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[git] ngosang -> minetest/minetest: Updated Spanish translations 5eb0eda http://git.io/Nihq (2015-02-15T09:36:28+01:00) |
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Krock |
sofar, almost done with my forum topic fetch script :D |
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Krock |
no no |
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Krock |
so far |
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Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/AQde0Js.png |
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alket |
is there a Letter mod , like A,B,C etc ? |
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ElectronLibre |
There is a mod called "classroom" or "learning" by sfan5 I think, there are letters and numbers written on nodes in it. |
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fishyWET |
https://github.com/Amaz1/letters |
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alket |
thanks |
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sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: "teaching" |
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sfan5 |
alket: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest-teaching |
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Krock |
how about alphabet? |
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ElectronLibre |
Ah, thanks, I knew it was about that. |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Only do the IPv6 unit test if IPv6 is enabled 3b6b943 http://git.io/NPrv (2015-02-15T12:20:37+01:00) |
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alket |
which one is better, fishyWET or sfan5 ? |
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alket |
i mean the mods |
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sfan5 |
alket: my mod does a bit more than just letters |
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alket |
thanks |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix unit test if there isn't a localhost address (for example FreeBSD jails) a3e2b3e http://git.io/NPQv (2015-02-15T13:11:03+01:00) |
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sfan5 |
alket: here's a video of the mod in action http://meow.minetest.net/tmp/ph_GCppPdO5C.mp4 |
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alket |
sfan5: indeed, this is much better |
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alket |
thanks |
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Krock |
sfan5, wut? localhost is on version 0.4.7 and client on 0.4.9 |
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sfan5 |
huh |
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sfan5 |
didn't even notice that |
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VanessaE |
good morning. |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello VanessaE. |
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VanessaE |
hey |
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est31 |
VanessaE, read mt-technic backlog, managed to test pipeworks |
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est31 |
found 3 flow logic related issues 2 general ones :) |
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VanessaE |
est31: ok |
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alket |
is there any kind of maping ? |
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alket |
like minimap etc |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix unit test if there isn't a localhost address (for example FreeBSD jails), second part 8aebc31 http://git.io/NXuw (2015-02-15T14:30:34Z) |
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Krock |
rubenwardy, u has got a reply |
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rubenwardy |
Huh? |
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rubenwardy |
What do you mean? |
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Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10149&start=25 |
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rubenwardy |
I saw that, Krock. Is the source for the bot anywhere? |
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alket |
is it possible to have a live feed of audio inside game xD |
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est31 |
about the mapping, yes there is a way |
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est31 |
search for "VanessaE survival server", you will find a map of VE's in the forum post |
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alket |
should we install it in our server ? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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est31 |
its only external, nothing in-game |
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alket |
ah , great |
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luizrpgluiz |
alket: hi,you create mod? |
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alket |
what do you mean luizrpgluiz |
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luizrpgluiz |
alket: if you create mods |
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alket |
I never did one |
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alket |
although I know lua, i did some projects with love2d |
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* NekoGloop |
throws a kitten at rubenwardy |
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* rubenwardy |
throws a capybara at NekoGloop |
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Jordach |
purr |
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est31 |
Jordach, watch out you dont get a DMCA takedown request! |
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ElectronLibre |
Be careful Jordach by purring you could be thrown by mistake as a kitten. |
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est31 |
or get flagged |
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est31 |
by YT |
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est31 |
as infringing |
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est31 |
https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-flags-cat-purring-as-copyright-infringing-music-150211/ |
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Jordach |
est31, tl;dr don't use younoob |
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est31 |
or dont purr |
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Jordach |
*opens spotify* |
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Jordach |
u wot m8 |
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Jordach |
>there is a problem with your audio system |
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ElectronLibre |
YT flagging cats purring as copyright material, just insanely perfect. |
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est31 |
suits their bd |
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Jordach |
brb - need a force reboot |
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ElectronLibre |
(Or maybe, purr-fect.) |
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* ElectronLibre |
wins the award for the worst pun ever. |
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est31 |
purr* FTFY |
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SylvieLorxu |
ElectronLibre: Let me guess, sounded too much like Skrillex? |
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ElectronLibre |
Skrillex? Never heard about this, what is it? |
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Jordach |
nice job there AMD |
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est31 |
can anyboy explain me the line containing "VACUUM" in this file: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/backup-server.sh |
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olibec |
Bonjour tout le monde |
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olibec |
j'aimerais poser quelques questions de noob, c'est possible ? |
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ElectronLibre |
olibec, sur #minetest-fr en français oui. |
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ElectronLibre |
Ou ici en anglais. |
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olibec |
merci ! |
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rubenwardy |
It would be cool to do a collab youtube video. |
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Calinou |
we could have a cool trailer, with nice music |
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Calinou |
it'd be mostly traveling in nature and player builds |
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Calinou |
and showing off some mods |
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Calinou |
it could be featured on minetest.net homepage |
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Calinou |
videos on homepage are great to bring people |
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rubenwardy |
I wrote a script and started making it, but gave up because of painfulness. |
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rubenwardy |
No good video editor |
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rubenwardy |
I'll dig it up |
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alket |
openshot |
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alket |
http://www.openshot.org/ |
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rubenwardy |
That's the one that has the reputation for crashing? |
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rubenwardy |
I use kdelive, but it is painful when doing different resolutions and cropping |
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rubenwardy |
Oh, I've just moved to xfce. Can I still do kdelive? :O |
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rubenwardy |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CxeUQROl3NkSGsLpZ2_U-paaBGLzK-mbr6aZzekwPJ8/edit?usp=sharing |
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* ElectronLibre |
remembers the time when minetest freezed your player whenever you got disconnected. |
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ElectronLibre |
It could be great if the client showed you a notification whenever there is no packet received since, let's say, 50 seconds.. |
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rubenwardy |
Maybe ten seconds |
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ElectronLibre |
Yes, why not, I've never been reconnected after 30 seconds, 10 I've already been. |
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Animetrom |
hi |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou, it would be cool to start a 3 week competition to get resources for an official Minetest trailer, to involve the community. |
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Calinou |
I have tons of free/libre music |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, please, use something other than Google Drive |
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Calinou |
and its Obscurscript |
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rubenwardy |
I created that other a year ago. What would you suggest? |
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rubenwardy |
over |
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Calinou |
an Etherpad is enough |
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Calinou |
http://pad.riseup.net/ hosts some |
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Calinou |
hmm, pads not edited for 30 days ago away |
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Calinou |
https://public.pad.fsfe.org/ this one probably doesn't do it, but has no titles |
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rubenwardy |
https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/minetest-trailer |
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Calinou |
I'll put links to some music |
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Calinou |
you're probably not gonna like it though 8) |
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rubenwardy |
It can't have singing in it, IMO |
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Calinou |
I have instrumental music |
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rubenwardy |
But suggest away |
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rubenwardy |
Excellent |
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Calinou |
we don't necessarily need speaking in video |
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Calinou |
Minecraft had a video for a while, that had zero speaking |
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Calinou |
the one made for Beta 1.0 |
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Calinou |
it should still be available on YouTube |
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rubenwardy |
That is true, but it is harder to get the idea of customisation and modding across. |
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rubenwardy |
Although it is better for foreign languages |
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rubenwardy |
We could graphically show how easy it is |
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rubenwardy |
And have a section where we repeatly install mods and show how the world varies. (we'd need a nice multiplayer world, and maybe time lapse) |
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Christopher-Were |
Hi. I'm having a little trouble understanding how to install player skins on Linux Minetest. Please would anyody be able to help me? |
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rubenwardy |
It would be cool to have splines and camera recording in Minetest at full HD. |
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Calinou |
use external recorders |
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Calinou |
built-in recorder is useful, but not necessary |
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Christopher-Were |
OBS works a treat for recording |
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Calinou |
also tricky to make and bloats the game |
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Calinou |
I use SimpleScreenRecorder |
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Calinou |
OBS is tricky to use |
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Calinou |
Christopher-Were, you need to use a mod to apply player skins on players |
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rubenwardy |
You'd need a 1080p screen in height |
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Christopher-Were |
SimpleScreenRecorder is good. OBS is till in alpha |
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rubenwardy |
to do 1080HD |
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Calinou |
this one is simple: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3587&hilit=player_textures |
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Calinou |
I have a 1080p screen |
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rubenwardy |
Okay. Cool. |
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rubenwardy |
How laggy is moving the player and orientation using a mod? |
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rubenwardy |
In terms of making a camera follow a preset path |
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ElectronLibre |
What? I exited minetest while my server was removing objects and I've got an error from builtin. |
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Calinou |
you can't smooth player orientation movement |
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Calinou |
so, don't count on it |
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Calinou |
I'd like a smooth mouse setting |
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Calinou |
although there could be system tools to emulate it regardless |
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rubenwardy |
Should I create a github issue about it to gain suggestions? |
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Calinou |
yeah, call it “Video-making options†|
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Calinou |
smooth mouse, freecam (should probably require noclip privilege) |
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Calinou |
freecam = move camera independently of player |
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Calinou |
also lock cam (move player, but not camera) |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/wiki/Sites-that-run-Etherpad-Lite |
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Christopher-Were |
Thanks for the help Calinou, but after following the instructions the player textures still don't show |
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Calinou |
Christopher-Were, you need to name the textures with exact, case-sensitive player name |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2323 |
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Christopher-Were |
I've made sure of that Calinou but still no luck I'm afraid |
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rubenwardy |
You installed and named correctly? (see /mods) |
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Christopher-Were |
I've got a texture pack installed and the player model from the texture pack doesn't show up either |
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rubenwardy |
the mod correctly |
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Christopher-Were |
but all the other textures do |
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Christopher-Were |
I'm sure I'll get there eventually, it's just these intructions aren't very straightforward |
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Calinou |
the mod is enabled? |
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Christopher-Were |
I think so, it says it's installed |
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Christopher-Were |
Oh it was installed but not enabled. Silly me |
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Christopher-Were |
Thank you all for being so patient with me. |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou, did I explain smooth camera sufficiently |
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Calinou |
Minecraft has a smooth camera mode (F8) |
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Calinou |
it would work very similarly |
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Christopher-Were |
Are there any guides or repos where i could get a hold of some player skins? |
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rubenwardy |
!g minetest avatar skin database |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8524 |
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rubenwardy |
no |
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rubenwardy |
!g minetest skin database |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/ |
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rubenwardy |
That's it |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2325 |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Add camera smoothing by rubenwardy · Pull Request #2325 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou ^ |
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Christopher-Were |
thanks ill take a look |
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Christopher-Were |
Just so you guys know. It's really difficult determining what info in out of date and which is still relevant on the wiki |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, nice |
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rubenwardy |
http://youtu.be/wCkFRsCM0UY |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou ^ |
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rubenwardy |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Camera Smoothing in Minetest - YouTube |
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rubenwardy |
gtg |
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* Calinou |
youtube-dl |
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Azelphur |
I just got minetest running on my watch, hehehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MItj9AJbP4 |
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alket |
Azelphur: haha nice :) |
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alket |
wait .. smart watchs are real ? |
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Azelphur |
indeed, I'm going to a gaming convention soon too, so tempted to skin it up to look like Minecraft and confuse a bunch of kids saying I have Minecraft on my watch |
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Azelphur |
alket: yes? |
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VanessaE |
yeah, they usually use a smartphone for the actual computing power though |
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Azelphur |
VanessaE: yes, but amusingly all android wear devices are actually running android underneath (with a bunch of stuff stripped out) |
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VanessaE |
Azelphur: adjust your gui_scaling setting minetest.conf and you should be able to get everything to size/fit right on the screen |
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Azelphur |
so as long as you aren't loading android UI libraries or anything, it'll run on the watch directly |
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VanessaE |
setting in* |
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Azelphur |
VanessaE: haha no way, well have to adb back in and try it out. Where would that be on android? |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure off the top of my head, but you can also adjust it in the main menu, "Settings" tab - at least on PC |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
but you may not be able to actually click on it if the UI is oversized there |
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Azelphur |
yea, those tabs aren't on the screen at all - no chance ;) |
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VanessaE |
and don't use adb to hack into it, just install a text editor like JOTA or so. |
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Azelphur |
VanessaE: in order to do that I'd need a keyboard as well, Android wear has the keyboard stuff stripped out. |
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VanessaE |
oh right :P |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
in that case, adb away ;) |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
(I only just got my first smartphone a few months ago, nevermind having a smartwatch) |
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Azelphur |
hehe |
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VanessaE |
of course that kinda begs the question: how do you search for apps to install, without a keyboard to type in queries with? :) |
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VanessaE |
(seriously, how DOES that work?) |
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Levan |
Good People of IRC chat, I have a question :) |
| 21:39 |
catninja |
Levan: I hope it is not about the storm of neptune |
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Levan |
As far as internet information goes Minetest is the best open source alternative for minecraft,(I LOVE OPENSOURCE) So what I want to know is what is the difference between this two "games" because I really could not find a solid piece of information on this |
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Levan |
@catninja What is that ?? |
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VanessaE |
Levan: Minetest is its own unique, independent game engine written in C and C++, with Lua for the actual game content, while Minecraft is all Java I guess, so they're basically about as different under the hood as they can get :) |
| 21:42 |
catninja |
Levan: sorry it was just some dude here yesterday that apparently drove the special bus, and I did not recognise you nick and feared for the worst ^^ |
| 21:42 |
VanessaE |
gameplay is similar, with similar recipes, but when you start throwing mods into the mix, everything changes |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
but Minetest ships with a fairly basic default "subgame" called minetest_game, with the expectation that you'll add mods to it to get the content you want |
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catninja |
Levan: yeah minetest is more of a "choose your own adventure" than minecraft |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
yeah, that's one way to put it |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
you can for example install custom subgames like Nodetopia, Dreambuilder, Carbone, and there are a bunch of others |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
each one behaves differently |
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catninja |
and Lord of the test if you are a lotr fan |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
yep that one too |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
Realtest is another, Big Freaking Dig is another |
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| 21:45 |
VanessaE |
or you can just stick to minetest_fame and add a bunch of mods to it to customize it however you like. |
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Levan |
@VanessaE Thank you for the reply, but as far as I never got into the minecraft, I do not understand a lot about it, so the default features are the same and minecraft has a single player ( i remember it did not have one, it was all about exploring or something. did not it).So basically minetest does not have single player and minecraft has ?? |
| 21:46 |
Levan |
@catninja OO I see :) |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
minetest has singleplayer mode too |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
that's where subgames and mods are useful |
| 21:47 |
catninja |
Levan: but if you connect to a server the mods and games is choosen by the person hosting the server |
| 21:47 |
VanessaE |
in multiplayer mode, the server you connect to decides what game or mods are in use (and it controls them - you don't have to install anything) |
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catninja |
VanessaE: (ops sorry) |
| 21:47 |
VanessaE |
heh, two minds, same answer :) |
| 21:48 |
Levan |
@VanessaE @catninja minecraft has a story mode or something ?? and Default minetest does not ?? so that is the difference right now ? |
| 21:48 |
VanessaE |
Levan: that's a good assessment |
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catninja |
VanessaE: well I should let you speak first since you have the most experience ^^ |
| 21:48 |
VanessaE |
but that's only one difference really |
| 21:48 |
VanessaE |
I don't know anything about minecraft's story mode whatever that is |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
except that there's some "the end" level |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
with a big dragon or something |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
minetest does not have a mode like that, but making a subgame geared toward that is probably doable. |
| 21:50 |
VanessaE |
the game content is Lua, so anything you can code in Lua can probably run in Minetest as long as you can make the modding API do what you want |
| 21:51 |
Levan |
@VanessaE @catninja Thank you guise for very useful information :) wish you the best of luck. I am going to grab the minetest now :) again thank you for the information |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
have fun! :) |
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Levan |
:) |
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Azelphur |
VanessaE: you install apps from your phone |
| 21:52 |
Azelphur |
generally don't use the watch for that :P |
| 21:52 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 21:52 |
Azelphur |
that said, the watch does have voice input that works reasonably well |
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ulla |
hi |
| 21:53 |
Azelphur |
VanessaE: the best thing I've seen so far is some guy installed dosbox and had it running Windows 95 XD |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
hah |
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Azelphur |
ulla: hello |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
well have fun with it |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 21:54 |
ulla |
t i have a little problem whit my server |
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ulla |
i have set my modem net gear 2200 i have added string in .conf the server is announced but the ip is 0.0.0.0.0 30000 |
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Trixar_za |
Azelphur: How? Dosbox can't run 32bit systems. The best you can do is Windows 3.x with Calmira to make it look like Windows 95 or XP |
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Trixar_za |
http://trixarian.net/doswin.png - http://trixarian.net/doswin2.png |
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Azelphur |
Trixar_za: not sure actually, I thought it was Dosbox, now I'm not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZx-LJH5J_I |
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ulla |
tpls someone can help me? |
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Azelphur |
Trixar_za: nah it says in the video he's using Adosbox |
| 22:00 |
Trixar_za |
No, that's Windows 95 alright - how the hell |
| 22:00 |
Trixar_za |
Now I want to try |
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Azelphur |
so you're a fellow guy who likes to try and install stupid stuff on watches |
| 22:01 |
Trixar_za |
No, I'm the kind of guy that likes to do crazy stuff like install OSes in game emulators like dosbox :P |
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Azelphur |
ah hehe |
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Trixar_za |
installing* |
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Azelphur |
Trixar_za: I had a friend once that was pretty funny, he was running a NES emulator on a Gamecube emulator on a PC :) |
| 22:03 |
Trixar_za |
Maybe the 16bit limit is a Windows 3.x thing and not a Dosbox issue |
| 22:03 |
Trixar_za |
lol |
| 22:03 |
Trixar_za |
I've run ScummVM on my phone and once on a friend's N64 |
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chrisf |
Trixar_za: sure it can. [32bit support]. otherwise most later dos stuff wouldnt work either. |
| 22:04 |
Trixar_za |
... had to make a custom catridge for that last one. |
| 22:04 |
Azelphur |
nice |
| 22:05 |
Trixar_za |
No, those dos games used a 32bit enviroment that encased the game executable. That's how they got past that dos limitation. |
| 22:05 |
Trixar_za |
Still, it should be possible if the OS supports it natively and doesn't need an external library to give it that ability |
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Trixar_za |
I wonder if long names work |
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Trixar_za |
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=24936 |
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Trixar_za |
Interesting - still you need to create hard drive images to force support |
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Azelphur |
hehe |
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Trixar_za |
Wait Wait |
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Trixar_za |
You can do it with Windows 98? |
| 22:13 |
Trixar_za |
Because I don't need to go looking for a damn Windows 95 iso if that's the case - lol |
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Azelphur |
Trixar_za: huh? |
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Trixar_za |
I have the Win 98 SE cd |
| 22:17 |
Azelphur |
I don't have a Windows 95 ISO laying about :P |
| 22:17 |
Trixar_za |
... apparently there's a version of dosbox for even my ancient phone. Now to resist the urge to install Winodws on it |
| 22:18 |
Trixar_za |
me either - I'd have to buy or download it :/ |
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Trixar_za |
So installing Win98 is more convient since I already have it |
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ulla |
PLS help |
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ulla |
now i can connect in my server but no view in minetest list or client list? |
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ulla |
pls |
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ulla |
t pls help now i can connect in my server 93-42-171-123.ip87.fastwebnet.it but him is invisible in minetest server list and in client list on the game how is possible? |
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ulla |
t no help for me ? |
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shadowzone |
o.O |
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shadowzone |
pastebin your minetest.conf |
| 22:54 |
ulla |
O-O |
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ulla |
O_o |
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ulla |
? |
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ulla |
shadow yo help me pls? |
| 22:56 |
shadowzone |
Maybe.. |
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ulla |
i have create a server now i can connect but i no view him in the list of server |
| 22:58 |
shadowzone |
well can I see your minetest.conf? |
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ulla |
93-42-171-123.ip87.fastwebnet.it this is adress |
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ulla |
i have set .conf |
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ulla |
server_announce = true My server = ITALIAN server By UllA server_description = ulla server server_address = 93-42-171-123.ip87.fastwebnet.it |
| 23:01 |
shadowzone |
try adding public_serverlist = true |
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ulla |
after server_announce? |
| 23:02 |
shadowzone |
Anywhere |
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ulla |
ok i try |
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ulla |
online now but invisible |
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ulla |
93-42-171-123.ip87.fastwebnet.it if you wold can try connect ?pls . I HAVE connect whit my other minetest |
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shadowzone |
port please? |
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ulla |
30000 |
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shadowzone |
I can't connect |
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ulla |
is possible the problem is my provvider |
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ulla |
fastweb? |
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shadowzone |
I dunno |
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ulla |
ok ty too |
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ulla |
i retry tomorrow |
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ulla |
however it is strange I can not connect from the same PC with another minetest I installed 2 to try |
| 23:17 |
ulla |
lol google translate i can connect :-) |
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catninja |
ulla: are you swedish? |
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ulla |
ita |
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ulla |
bb all |
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catninja |
ulla: ah, ulla is a swedish name |
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ulla |
isnt my name |
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ulla |
is my nickname in real life |
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catninja |
aha, thx anyway and good night ^^ |
| 23:24 |
ulla |
t np a more time |
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ulla |
tgood night |
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