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00:07 whatsupdoc its because the world is going mobile and you are neglecting the android port.
00:07 VanessaE eh, no
00:07 VanessaE not neglecting.
00:08 VanessaE there's one guy working on it, and he has limited time
00:08 VanessaE moreso that the rest of the core devs
00:08 roniz the thing with the android port is that minecraft alternatives are swamped with shit.
00:08 VanessaE and besides, 75% of my userbase already was on Android
00:10 VanessaE and there exists unofficial android points from those clone guys, up to 0.4.10 at least
00:10 VanessaE which means they'll work with current servers
00:10 VanessaE (old ports work too but have glitches)
00:10 VanessaE s/points/ports/
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00:13 luizrpgluiz hi
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00:37 Inocudom Hello luizrpgluiz.
00:56 luizrpgluiz anyone here besides the Paramat moves well with worlds generator?
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01:20 Inocudom Well, Krock and Gael_de_Sailly have some skills in that area, luizrpgluiz. You could get some help from them.
01:20 Inocudom Look for them in the Minetest forums.
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01:43 jentron I have a bad memory, in worldeditor, the name for air nodes is...?
01:44 n4x "air"?
01:44 jentron Thanks. I kept trying it capitalized
01:46 jentron Doh. rectangles not lines. :(
01:46 * jentron majorly griefed his world
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03:44 Inocudom VanessaE: The problem is that it is difficult to have a solid voice in the forums if 4aiman sees fit to make harsh responsed. Same with the Freeminer forums.
03:46 Inocudom As long as he does that, I can't feel comfortable in them.
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05:00 Inocudom Sokomine: The forums aren't as good to me as they used to be.
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05:35 Zeno` Seems that you do have a lot of support on the forums though
05:47 AgentFire Who made home decor?
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05:56 Zeno` VanessaE
05:57 Zeno` and others
05:57 Zeno` https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack
05:57 Inocudom Zeno: It doesn't really seem like I do.
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06:13 Zeno` umm, paramat. Who said mods cannot be CCND?
06:13 Zeno` afaik someone who write a mod can use any license they like
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06:15 hmmmm of course they can
06:15 hmmmm whether or not they get endorsed by the minetest forums is a whole other issue
06:15 Zeno` yeah
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06:22 Zeno` That's a forum requirement though, not a requirement of minetest
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06:46 Inocudom Bye.
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07:45 Zeno` ok, time to give mingw another attempt I guess
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07:56 CWz lol there is a public server called "Sharmuta unstable"
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10:17 whatsupdoc hey are any of you prioritizing the android port yet or are you still ignoring it because lolnodevices
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10:19 whatsupdoc srsly not a valid excuse IMHO because 85% of mobile market is android
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10:19 Calinou whatsupdoc, we do what we can about it.
10:20 Calinou our developer manpower isn't immense
10:21 whatsupdoc understood but that is an advertising problem not a manpower problem. enough ppl are into mc and hate ms that if you get yourselves out there properly you will find many people interested in helping
10:21 Calinou wrong
10:21 Calinou very few people are competent C++ developers
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10:22 Calinou that are willing to learn the code base
10:22 whatsupdoc2 that are proficient in the language you use and everything
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11:50 sfan5 whatsupdoc2: how about you help instead of complaining about the problems?
11:51 sfan5 if you can't help don't complain that we aren't doing what you think is important
11:51 Zeno` what's important?
12:05 jin_xi android
12:07 Zeno` yeah, just looked at the logs
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12:22 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix weird (and wrong) comment in test.cpp 7109e8f http://git.io/HCaibA (2014-12-21T13:20:42+01:00)
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12:30 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Regenerate server_flags_creative.png from XCF 0483f91 http://git.io/ptwa_w (2014-12-21T13:29:02+01:00)
12:31 rubenwardy Hi all!
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12:57 rubenwardy april-fools/2014/runnerup/jojoa1997
12:57 rubenwardy ?
13:00 jojoa1997 freenode's april fools competition
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13:22 Zak03 hi
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13:30 Lansney hello
13:30 Zak03 HAI
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13:36 Lansney anyone is testing release candidate 0.4.11 here?
13:37 Zeno` lots of people I hope
13:38 Lansney I notice a few bugs while installing mods, but i'm not sure if i can ask support here
13:38 Zeno` yeah you can ask support
13:39 Lansney primary with the animal modpack
13:39 Zak03 wwell i have experienced slower start speeds and the helicopter mod malfunctions
13:40 Lansney yea i think some lua call has changed?
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13:46 Wayward_One http://imgur.com/cWzss8x
13:46 Wayward_One hehe
13:47 Zeno` I think it would be more helpful to mention what the bugs are ;)
13:48 Zeno` slower start speeds can be explained
13:48 Zeno` nodes are now converted to meshes at startup instead of during the game. So startup speeds are slower, but playing is faster
13:53 Lansney so, for my problem
13:53 Lansney it's quiete long
13:53 kahrl isn't that a good thing?
13:54 Lansney I simply download the anima lmodpack from here : https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack
13:54 Lansney i rename the folder to animals_modpack like any other mod
13:55 Lansney but it say that a dependecy is missing: advanced spawning : so I download it from here : https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning/
13:55 Lansney I activate all but dont work :(
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13:56 kahrl Lansney: what exactly doesn't work?
13:56 Lansney wait i trying to launch my game to get exactly my error
13:59 Lansney ok i said nothing everything work o_o
13:59 Lansney omg I'm sorry , but 3 days ago it didnt work
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13:59 Lansney and i do everything
14:01 kahrl Glad it could be fixed ;)
14:01 Lansney yea ^^
14:01 Lansney a and just one question though
14:02 Lansney does it work really good on server? i mean performance
14:04 kahrl I haven't used it on an actual server myself but I heard animals_modpack is (or can be) slow
14:04 Lansney arr :/
14:04 kahrl it depends on the server of course so test how it works for you
14:04 Lansney I'm just looking for a simple but effecive mob framework
14:04 Lansney mod *
14:06 kahrl http://wiki.minetest.net/Mobs
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14:06 kahrl try Simple Mobs if animals_modpack doesn't work
14:08 Lansney ho thank you for the wiki lsit i never saw this ^^
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14:48 ziggy909 how do i get the mobf menu?
14:48 ziggy909 what command?
14:48 ziggy909 i need to spawn some stuff
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15:16 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=165374#p165374
15:16 rubenwardy ^ spam
15:16 rubenwardy There is a lot of spam these days
15:17 rubenwardy We need 1) more moderators 2) better captcha
15:17 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=165375#p165375
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15:31 jin_xi ok, so i've been wondering about textures lately, specially ones generated on the fly with ^combine and such
15:31 jin_xi so to delete unused ones usage needs to be tracked, right? but you still need to make a decision which ones to delete
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15:37 luizrpgluiz hi
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15:52 rubenwardy How I love the Steam sale.
15:57 * Calinou stopped loving Steam long time ago
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16:28 rubenwardy Hi all!
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16:29 rubenwardy I like how Freeminer is the first item, but Minetest is on the fifth page: http://www.lgdb.org/category/game_modes/sandbox
16:29 rubenwardy I guess it is ordered by date added
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16:55 Arkaim038 Bonjour, je cherche de l'aide pour le jeu
16:57 * VanessaE looks at Calinou
16:57 VanessaE I think this is your department :)
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16:58 CreativeBlob hi
16:58 VanessaE hi
16:59 VanessaE Arkaim038: what help did you need?
17:02 Arkaim038 how to protect his house on the server Minetest france.fr... sorry i don't speak english
17:04 VanessaE what protection mod does it use?
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17:05 VanessaE kilbith: can you please help Arkaim038.  in French.
17:05 Arkaim038 (sorry with google traduction lol) against the destruction
17:05 kilbith Arkaim038, rejoins-nous sur #minetest-fr plutôt
17:05 VanessaE merci.
17:05 Arkaim038 ok merci, j'arrive sur le minetest.fr
17:06 kilbith #minetest-fr
17:06 Arkaim038 merci VanessaE, bye
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17:13 CWz there is a server on the public list called "Sharmuta"
17:14 marktraceur CWz: Oh my god.
17:14 marktraceur ...I have no idea what that means.
17:14 CWz it is Arabic for whore
17:15 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G/GAaFcLZK5MnY.png
17:15 gravgun People can name their server however they want :3
17:15 Calinou Bones using a PC.
17:15 marktraceur CWz: So?
17:16 Calinou hi marktraceur
17:16 marktraceur Ohai Calinou.
17:17 CWz nvm
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17:28 Amaz Interesting little rant: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=10&t=10804
17:29 gravgun "I build too far away from spawn, no-one visits, I build too near spawn, I get banned."
17:30 gravgun I'm still trying to concieve a n-dimensional space where distance wouldn't matter so much
17:31 kahrl F_2^n with the discrete metric?
17:31 kahrl oh I thought this was #math, heh
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17:48 kaeza greetings
17:48 marktraceur Hi kaeza.
17:48 marktraceur gravgun: Teleporter mods!
17:48 marktraceur And turn on fast for everyone.
17:48 marktraceur Because it's a useful tool.
17:48 gravgun *gets struck with idea*
17:49 gravgun "It's bigger on the inside!"
17:49 marktraceur Heh.
17:49 marktraceur gravgun: http://media.marktraceur.info/mgoblin_med​ia/media_entries/42/minetest-map-big.png <-- I could not have accomplished this without teleporters and fast move
17:50 gravgun indeed
17:50 marktraceur See also the lpgc world, http://gaming.libreplanet.org​/minetest/maps/2014-12-21.png
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17:52 gravgun I swear nothing is wrong with some map blocks near the top
17:52 marktraceur gravgun: It's an older version of the server software, mapgen is imperfect or something
17:54 jbb hi
17:54 jbb do you speak german?
17:55 jin_xi go to #minetest-de for german channel
17:55 jbb no not on the englich channel
17:55 jin_xi was?
17:55 jbb I dont speak english very welll
17:55 jbb but german
17:55 jbb and a little bit japanese
17:56 gravgun jbb ---> #minetest-de = german minetest chat
17:56 jbb there isnt anybody online :(
17:58 marktraceur Well, then you'll have to live with the English channel if you have a question :)
17:58 marktraceur jbb: What's up?
17:59 jbb yesterday I have played minetest with a friend!
17:59 marktraceur Neat!
17:59 jbb but he cant play anymore
17:59 jbb but I can
17:59 jbb so I do it
18:01 marktraceur Awesome.
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18:36 john_minetest hi
18:38 Broam ahoy.
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18:46 STHGOM hi john_minetest
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18:50 redstonecraftpl Hello :)
18:51 STHGOM hi
18:52 redstonecraftpl Anyone know how to install minetest 0.4.7 on debian 7.7?
18:52 john_minetest 3 days to the next version
18:52 STHGOM sudo apt-get install minetest ?
18:52 Krock redstonecraftpl, 1) read what john_minetest said 2) 0.4.7 is outdated. current versoin is 0.4.10
18:53 redstonecraftpl Ok! So i want 0.4.10 :)
18:53 john_minetest redstonecraftpl: Minetest 0.4.7 is pretty old. 0.4.10 is current and 0.4.11 will come out in 3 days.
18:53 STHGOM sweet
18:53 redstonecraftpl ok
18:53 redstonecraftpl but when i type apt-get install minetest, it will install minetest 0.3.0..
18:53 redstonecraftpl 0.3.1*
18:53 STHGOM ohh
18:54 Krock redstonecraftpl, get the binaries from the daily builds
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18:54 redstonecraftpl ok, why not try.
18:55 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
18:55 redstonecraftpl Btw, any chance to port minetest to amigaOS 4.1 or MorphOS, or ArOS?
18:55 Krock use windows or anything other common
18:56 * Krock looks around for angry people
18:56 john_minetest Debian is actually pretty common.
18:56 Krock yeah but not amiga/morph or ar
18:58 redstonecraftpl Krock: I am amiga enthusiast, so i just ask.
18:58 Krock redstonecraftpl, have you already tried to install minetest on it?
18:59 john_minetest If irrlicht runs on those computers, minetest could probably run there, too
19:00 john_minetest But running minetest without open gl is pretty ugly..
19:00 Calinou redstonecraftpl, the best idea is to get latest Git and compile it yourself
19:00 Calinou there is a script for that
19:00 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
19:01 Krock Ninja'd
19:01 Krock I told him that link 5 mins earlier
19:03 redstonecraftpl Krock: Not, i think minetest will dont work on m68k (I have only classic amiga at this while)
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19:07 da3m0n22 Is there way to obtain just `minetest.app` without creating .dmg package on OSX build?
19:08 * Krock looks around for a OSX user
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19:47 STHGOM !seen Jericho
19:47 MinetestBot STHGOM: Sorry, I haven't seen jericho around.
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19:53 Krock !seen MinetestBot
19:53 MinetestBot Krock: minetestbot was last seen at 2014-12-20 16:51:58 UTC on #minetest-de
19:53 redstonecraftpl !top10
19:53 redstonecraftpl yeah
19:54 STHGOM MinetestBot!
19:54 MinetestBot STHGOM!
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20:39 Yellowberry hi
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20:39 Yellowberry Its a Taoki!
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21:13 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/fh6upni
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21:38 MinetestBot [git] CraigyDavi -> minetest/minetest_game: Set number of screwdriver uses to 200 a9ac480 http://git.io/laC8-Q (2014-12-21T22:36:20+01:00)
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21:56 Krock !tell rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=165433#p165433
21:56 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
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22:05 proller somewhere in parallel universe:     core.setting_setjson("test", {a1=2, b3=4, c5={e6=7,ff={1,2,3,4}}})
22:05 Krock Fringe!
22:07 proller and...    print(  core.setting_setjson("test")["c5"]["e6"]   )
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22:18 RuCopper Hi
22:18 STHGOM hi
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22:19 RuCopper oh ok then
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22:19 RuCopper he's back
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22:42 luizrpgluiz hi
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23:26 paramat midwinter greetings .. solstice was 23mins ago
23:27 paramat .. or midsummer greetings
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