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00:00 hisforever HAS ANYBODY GOT THE CHRISTMAS MODE TO WORK?
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00:02 shadowzone Yep
00:03 hisforever I've renamed it Shadowzone but it still won't work grrrr
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00:03 shadowzone hmmm
00:03 shadowzone weird
00:04 shadowzone ask OldCoder
00:04 hisforever OldCoder are you here?
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00:05 hisforever think I'll delete and reinstall it see if that works
00:08 SergioAD somebody can help me to make the other two missing textures for my modpack?
00:10 SergioAD OldCoder: do you are a Fedora user? cool
00:10 SergioAD oh pardon me, wrong channel
00:10 SergioAD LOL
00:10 SergioAD OldCoder: making my vey own mod
00:11 SergioAD BUT I need help with the textures
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00:13 SergioAD are a new material a new block and a new pike
00:15 SergioAD OldCoder: jordach has made this one as the refined diamond's texture https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/co​mmit/22fd286e29afc0a9600f40fe4fe713476d7fd42a
00:16 SergioAD I only need a diamond pickaxe and a diamond block with the same texture to complete my brand new mod
00:17 jojoa1997 Yello
00:17 SergioAD the pickaxe resists 999 ues :)
00:17 SergioAD the refined diamond pickaxe
00:20 SergioAD Hello jojoa1997, OldCoder this pickaxe has not special effects but I plain add one made by a magma crystal block an ice crystal block and a refined diamond named as magic  pickaxe that has the effects of certain ice tool on water and the effect of the magma pckaxe on the rock / stoe / ores
00:20 SergioAD so will be amazing
00:21 SergioAD also this one (wich is hard to make it specially because of the needed crystals) will resist 99999 uses
00:21 SergioAD so will be practically unbreakable
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00:27 realbadangel hisforever, you mean this one? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=10701
00:28 hisforever no but I'll get that one and try it ty
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00:30 hisforever ty soo much
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00:35 SergioAD OldCoder: do you know somebody who can help me?
00:37 SergioAD I will not ask to you for direct help because I have pendent with you my server but because I need original content I am searching for somebody who can help me to do that
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01:02 hisforever is there a newer minetest than 0.4.10?
01:02 OldCoder Hi
01:02 OldCoder hisforever this month possibly
01:02 OldCoder SergioAD, I do not understand the question yet
01:03 OldCoder I do not use Fedora
01:03 OldCoder I use a distro that I created
01:03 OldCoder And Debian for VPS
01:03 hisforever ok ty I can't get the christmas craft to work all it dose id give me code errors
01:03 OldCoder Do you mean on your own PC or on a world?
01:04 hisforever world
01:04 hisforever I use dreambuilders game
01:04 hisforever I run Manjaro linux
01:09 realbadangel hisforever, you should compile on your own to get latest mt
01:09 realbadangel next stable, 0.4.11 will be aviable before xmas
01:10 hisforever ty realbad angel
01:10 AgentFire realbadangel: Have you ever considered making the locked chests in technic sharable?
01:10 realbadangel AgentFire, i dont quite understand the point. if locked then !shareable
01:11 hisforever I'm not good at coding
01:11 VanessaE realbadangel: like Sokomine's shared locked chests mod.
01:11 VanessaE maybe that's what he wants.
01:11 realbadangel hisforever, its quite easy
01:12 AgentFire VanessaE: Kind of, but less complicated. I like the idea of sharing locked things, but that whole key and keychain thing. I didn't understand it one bit
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01:19 SergioAD OldCoder: I am asking if you know about somebody who can make some textures for my mod
01:20 SergioAD well you know, I am not a developer nor a graphical designer
01:20 realbadangel SergioAD, try askin VanessaE
01:20 SergioAD Ok :)
01:20 * VanessaE hides
01:21 OldCoder SergioAD, you are asking for artwork?
01:21 OldCoder Learn GIMP
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01:22 OldCoder You can probably contribute in this area
01:22 OldCoder hisforever, the mod is not maintained
01:22 OldCoder I needed to delete the sticks override block myself
01:23 OldCoder For other reasons; try removing that first
01:23 SergioAD yes, I know that
01:23 OldCoder Then report more specifically what the error is
01:24 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/brjoH3X.png
01:24 realbadangel ^^nice to see that some1 is using meshnodes well
01:24 VanessaE nice
01:25 realbadangel i expect content explode after 0.4.11 release
01:26 SergioAD VanessaE: do you can help me to get ready the missing textures?
01:26 VanessaE I'm taking a break right now
01:26 SergioAD both are based on the default diamond pickaxe and diamond block but are more transparent
01:27 realbadangel VanessaE, oh cmon, HELP him :)
01:27 SergioAD here is the model of the diamond https://mediacru.sh/download/Q/Q6StSV3LHUjv.png
01:27 OldCoder VanessaE, perhaps offer him tips on how to do it himself
01:28 VanessaE I'm afraid I have no tips or advice right now
01:28 VanessaE you caught me at a bad time, creatively.
01:28 realbadangel hold on a second
01:29 realbadangel this texture is actually quite good
01:29 realbadangel i mean the diamond
01:29 VanessaE indeed
01:29 VanessaE just do layer -> transparency -> add alpha channel, then select-by-color on the black areas and cut or delete.
01:30 VanessaE then you can use it as an inventory image
01:30 SergioAD how to apply it on the pickaxe's diamond?
01:31 VanessaE the default pick?  select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas and just tweak the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation
01:32 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/yJUexCv.png
01:32 VanessaE be sure you do Image -> Mode -> RGB first.
01:32 SergioAD I will give a try
01:32 VanessaE usually you don't apply a second image to the pick when changing it; not knowing what it is you're trying to actually DO, it's hard to make suggestions
01:33 realbadangel select an area with curves (to select all the pixels)
01:33 realbadangel and then use source image as the brush
01:34 SergioAD VanessaE: only I want to make the diamond pike has the same transparency on the blade as the diamond
01:35 VanessaE the default diamond doesn't have any transparency that I am aware of?
01:35 VanessaE (other than entirely empty areas, of course)
01:36 SergioAD nope the default diamond is opaque, I want use the default diamond pickaxe to get a better one with a semitransparent diamond
01:37 VanessaE I see
01:37 SergioAD BTW pardon me because of my bad English
01:38 VanessaE in that case, Image -> Mode -> RGB, Select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas of the pick head, adjust the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation, then use the Eraser with the opacity set to around 10 percent
01:38 VanessaE periodically tweak how much of the head you select with the Select-by-color tool, erase, repeat
01:38 VanessaE until you have the desired level of translucency.
01:39 realbadangel http://i.imgur.com/ScHNs16.png
01:39 VanessaE but bear in mind:
01:39 VanessaE the pick won't have any translucency when wielded.
01:39 VanessaE it will be entirely opaque.
01:39 realbadangel imho that diamond texture is cool
01:39 VanessaE realbadangel: indeed sop.
01:39 VanessaE so*
01:40 SergioAD I see, so sad
01:41 * realbadangel runs away in panic screaming: please no requests for translucency when wielded!!! aaaaaa!!!!
01:41 VanessaE realbadangel: no, that's kahrl's department :"P
01:41 VanessaE :P
01:43 realbadangel well, its a mixed area lately
01:44 realbadangel like Ukraine lately ;)
01:44 VanessaE did I just hear an offer to code it? ;)
01:45 realbadangel well, its quite easy in fact
01:45 realbadangel i havent added that feature because of waving
01:45 realbadangel but some1 on git gave me a solution to that
01:46 realbadangel just copy a shader without waving code and use it in this case
01:47 realbadangel most simple solutions are usually most hard to find ;)
01:49 SergioAD realbadangel VanessaE can you help me to make it with not waving?
01:49 VanessaE SergioAD: what you ask is not possible right now.
01:49 VanessaE translucency in wielded objects is not supported.
01:49 SergioAD I see :(
01:50 realbadangel SergioAD, your request is accounted and will be done in the future
01:50 realbadangel xmas is coming ;)
01:51 SergioAD or maybe the diamond but in a light blue (almost white) instead of diamond's blue
01:51 SergioAD ?
01:53 SergioAD or some other color related with diamonds
01:53 SergioAD maybe a dark blue?
01:53 SergioAD I can do it for the default diamond and diamond block but not on the pickaxe; somebody can help me with the pickaxe?
01:55 VanessaE I just told you how :P
01:56 VanessaE [09-12 20:38] <VanessaE> in that case, Image -> Mode -> RGB, Select-by-color on the blue and blue-white areas of the pick head, adjust the colors with Colors -> Hue-Saturation [...]
02:00 exio4 the commit name seems longer than the changes themselves
02:00 exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/yixem/commit/b​32853450024b1ca0b45d341851ca7aff4e134ae
02:00 VanessaE haha
02:05 SergioAD Ok
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02:20 SergioAD Ok let's try it, good bye
02:28 Yellowberry exio4, a new language, eh?
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02:29 exio4 Yellowberry, more like "I am bored and need something to do"
02:29 Yellowberry lol
02:34 VanessaE exio4: rewrite Minetest in brainfuck. :)
02:35 Pentium44 did anyone ever get MT running at a decent speed on a RPI?
02:35 exio4 why brainfuck, if you have yixem
02:36 VanessaE Pentium44: not that I ever heard.
02:36 VanessaE exio4: why not? :)
02:36 Pentium44 brainfuck best language :D
02:36 Yellowberry yes
02:36 Yellowberry totally
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02:40 SergioAD Hello again, I got errors, can you help me? here is the init file
02:40 SergioAD http://pastebin.com/QsjwuCqe
02:43 exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/yixem/​blob/master/yixem-optimizer.hs \o/
02:43 exio4 barebones though, they're high-level transformation though
02:43 exio4 should have a lower-level programming language that is simpler though
02:46 exio4 man, I feel useless, I code and code, and the line count isn't increased exponentially but at a really slow rate
02:47 SergioAD I see
02:47 exio4 I am talking with myself btw
02:47 SergioAD OldCoder: do you know what can I do?
02:47 exio4 SergioAD, what errors do you get?
02:47 SergioAD oh; pardon me :D
02:48 SergioAD error getting the path of my init.lua but I am using the same path of the file
02:48 exio4 wait
02:48 exio4 ~/.minetest/games/Craftingworld​/mods/refined_diamond/init.lua
02:48 exio4 minetest.get_modpath("refined")
02:48 exio4 I don't see the same name there
02:48 SergioAD do you need the entere mod to check it?
02:49 exio4 or is "refined" other mod you are loading its files?
02:49 SergioAD nope
02:49 SergioAD pardon me, I am a complete novice with mods
02:50 exio4 so, there is your error
02:50 exio4 :P
02:51 SergioAD is this the error? well I will check
02:52 SergioAD if I find more errors I will advice you :D
02:52 SergioAD nope, the error persists
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02:56 Yellowberry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H588NOk-G8U
02:57 Yellowberry installing monodevelop
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02:58 Yellowberry exio4, do you know C#?
02:58 exio4 F#
02:58 exio4 also, NICE! there was a powercutr
02:58 exio4 s/r$//
02:59 SergioAD exio4: nope, has not worked
02:59 exio4 hm..
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02:59 exio4 I don't really know then?
02:59 Yellowberry lolololol
02:59 exio4 I don't have the actual error
03:00 exio4 well, powercut + ups = a nice story
03:00 Yellowberry it appears that TPB is somewhat blocked by google DNS
03:00 Yellowberry hehe
03:00 exio4 the UPS saved me like for the 13th time this week
03:01 SergioAD can I sed you the mod?
03:01 exio4 not really, I don't have minetest in this laptop
03:02 SergioAD I see
03:02 exio4 (and my desktop is off because well, powercut and using emergency system)
03:02 AgentFire Minetest is drunk and needs to go home
03:03 SergioAD hmmmmmm somebody can test my game to check why the mod is not going correctlly?
03:03 exio4 brb
03:03 AgentFire Sokomine: Beware, people dying in elevators glitch the elevators
03:03 SergioAD geting the mod working I will have the posibility to create a server with original content :)
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03:06 exio4 I don't know how I lived without the UPS
03:07 exio4 probably another powercut in a few minutes
03:14 exio4 Yellowberry: do you know how I could access TPB?
03:17 exio4 oh, another spanish speaker! buenas SergioAD :D
03:27 SergioAD buena, exio4:
03:28 SergioAD buenas aquí tratando de darle sentido a la estructura de mi mod
03:29 SergioAD OldCoder: can you help me to fix the issues? after you finih with the fixes you can upload it to your server; I will help you with some tasks
03:30 SergioAD like the spawn construction
03:31 exio4 SergioAD: cual era el error en si? podes pastiar lo que te tira minetest cuando probas correrlo?
03:31 SergioAD claro
03:32 SergioAD he cambiado el nombre del mod y del juego / I have changed the mod and game's names
03:32 exio4 vamos a ##minetest-es
03:32 SergioAD Ok
03:36 SergioAD if somebody know what I need to do please inform me :D
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03:40 Zeno` Sokomine, I can't get this experimental inv_move_demo to behave the way to describe in the README :/
03:45 Zeno` well instead of losing stack B I can double stack B hehe
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04:03 SergioAD Here is the error of my mod http://pastebin.com/F4zPH42T
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04:17 Sokomine AgentFire: hmm. bones that do replace nodes are a problem :-( they ought to be fixed and be placed only on top of other nodes...where there's air and free space. it might still be a problem with the travelnet, as that extends 2 nodes high while beeing one node. the elevators are two seperate nodes
04:18 Sokomine Zeno`: that may happen as well in some situations
04:18 Sokomine Zeno`: rule of thumb is that you'll loose the stack you wanted to keep....
04:18 Zeno` That's the problem. I don't seem to be losing anything
04:19 Zeno` Maybe I'm doing it wrong :3
04:19 Sokomine Zeno`: hm. let me test it again in one of my worlds. could be that something changed recently
04:22 SergioAD hello somebody can analize my init file to check where I am failing?
04:23 SergioAD http://pastebin.com/FA8a8NfE
04:24 Zeno` Well, line 14 has a typo in it
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04:25 SergioAD in wich part?
04:25 Zeno` output = "haediamond:diamond",  --->  output = "hardiamond:diamond",
04:26 Zeno` the 'e' part :)
04:26 SergioAD corrected; ay other thing?
04:27 SergioAD is my very first mod
04:27 Zeno` Not sure. Are you getting errors?
04:27 SergioAD so I am totally unexperienced :(
04:27 Zeno` You have to start somewhere, so that's fine :)
04:27 SergioAD yes, errors with the syntax
04:29 SergioAD if you can please identify the typos; as I said I am totally unexperienced moding :D
04:30 Zeno` you're missing a closing brace } for recipe on line 36; i.e. between lines 39 and 40 there should be a }
04:32 Zeno` Also you need a depends.txt file with a single line in it. So it looks like:
04:32 Zeno` default
04:32 Zeno` You needs that because you're using a sound from the default game
04:33 Zeno` as well as default:diamond :)
04:34 SergioAD I see
04:35 Zeno` http://pastebin.com/eH7TNukg    <--- works for me (once I add the depends.txt file in the same directory)
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04:51 SergioAD YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY it is working; thank you so much Zeno`
04:51 SergioAD my refined pickaxe is the most powerfull on the game :)
04:52 Zeno` yeah... you don't think it's a little bit TOO powerful? :D
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05:01 SergioAD yes but this is why is hard to make :)
05:02 SergioAD here is a problem now on the game it appears as unknown item
05:06 OldCoder SergioAD, reviewing
05:07 OldCoder SergioAD, if you'd like me to look at a mod, let me know when you're ready
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05:31 SergioAD OldCoder: ok
05:32 SergioAD can you help me to patch the little issues?
05:32 SergioAD I will send you the entere game with world
05:34 OldCoder SergioAD, do you have an individual mod to review?
05:34 OldCoder Or are you asking me to look at multiple mods in a _game ?
05:35 OldCoder SergioAD, I agree with Zeno` implied point that powerful tools can throw off game balance
05:35 OldCoder Hard to make does not entirely fix this
05:36 SergioAD Ok, I will make it less powerfull but with the same resistence
05:40 Pentium44 OldCoder, PM
05:41 OldCoder Pentium44, wait
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06:10 SergioAD OldCoder: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkp​ZzqL7hRFkyTTYySS16RUk/view?usp=sharing
06:10 ThatGraemeGuy anyone else noticed that water is becoming opaque every now and then? can't recall that it used to do that :-/
06:10 SergioAD the mod with not many attack and power less
06:13 OldCoder SergioAD, all right
06:13 OldCoder SergioAD, github is really much better for this
06:13 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Add paste command (Ctrl-V) in GUIChatConsole daefd0a http://git.io/2-fKTA (2014-12-10T07:12:08+01:00)
06:14 OldCoder What do you wish me to do; install it now and ask somebody to test it?
06:15 SergioAD if you can add the necesary patches to make it work and if you want you can use the refined diamond block instead of the refined diamonds for the blade and refined diamonds for the rest of the pike
06:16 SergioAD only use it on a single player mode to test it and patch it :)
06:16 SergioAD if the patches can be applied and the mod passes the test before the patching you can use my game for one new server
06:16 OldCoder SergioAD, kindly put this stuff in a top level directly?
06:17 OldCoder Unzipping just plopped a lot of junk in my mods folder
06:17 OldCoder directory *
06:17 SergioAD yes, it has been set up to work as a normal mod
06:17 SergioAD can be used as a part of a game or a mod
06:17 OldCoder It needs a top-level folder
06:17 OldCoder SergioAD, do you follow?
06:18 SergioAD I think :)
06:18 SergioAD can you explain yourself?
06:18 OldCoder SergioAD, it is very messy to make a mod without a top level folder
06:18 OldCoder Put the files in a folder named hardiamond
06:19 OldCoder And then ZIP the folder; not the files!
06:19 SergioAD Oh OK
06:21 OldCoder I am testing now
06:21 OldCoder And also use github
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06:22 OldCoder And also use github SergioAD
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06:23 SergioAD_ re compressing it
06:25 SergioAD_ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkp​ZzqL7hYXRCWkFadU5aVnc/view?usp=sharing
06:25 SergioAD_ here it is
06:26 SergioAD_ recompressed
06:26 OldCoder SergioAD_, already changing it
06:26 OldCoder You have a typo
06:26 OldCoder haediamond
06:26 OldCoder fix that
06:26 SergioAD_ Ok :)
06:26 OldCoder A player reports that the pick does not work
06:29 SergioAD_ fixing it
06:29 SergioAD_ ready, I will re upload it
06:31 OldCoder You left out the image!
06:31 OldCoder harddiamond_tool_diamondpick.png
06:31 OldCoder Link just that image, please
06:32 OldCoder refined_tool_diamondpick.png
06:32 OldCoder Is it supposed to be that?
06:32 OldCoder SergioAD_, answer, please
06:32 OldCoder I have spent time on this
06:33 SergioAD_ fixed
06:33 OldCoder Different link?
06:33 OldCoder Respond please, I am working IRL
06:33 SergioAD_ yep
06:33 OldCoder and have taken time to look at this
06:33 OldCoder What is the link?
06:33 OldCoder SergioAD_, didn't you test this AT ALL yourself?
06:34 OldCoder Why did you ask others to test it when you had not tried it yourself?
06:34 SergioAD_ The new one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6VUkp​ZzqL7hWFFxT3YwaTBGTjg/view?usp=sharing
06:34 OldCoder See question. I do not mean to speak strongly.
06:34 OldCoder But why did you ask others to test it when you had not tried it yourself?
06:35 SergioAD_ I ask to others to be betatesters to accelerate the final release :)
06:35 OldCoder SergioAD_, D:
06:35 SergioAD_ I have tried it
06:35 OldCoder This is not beta
06:35 OldCoder If you tried it, why did you not see that your images were missing?
06:36 OldCoder and the image is STILL missing
06:36 OldCoder Wait
06:36 SergioAD_ because I am not good making mods :) it is my very first one
06:36 OldCoder So it is correct image and incorrect code; patching my copy
06:36 OldCoder That is not an excuse
06:36 OldCoder You are clearly sharp
06:37 OldCoder How could you try it and not see the image was not there?
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06:37 OldCoder It is suggested that you try your own mods before asking others
06:37 OldCoder Hang on, patching my copy
06:37 SergioAD_ OK
06:38 SergioAD_ in fact, I saw that there where many bugs so I have asked you to patch it, that was all :)
06:39 SergioAD_ I made that for feedback and acceleration of the release
06:42 OldCoder Oh, gee, thanks
06:42 OldCoder So I was there to fix your bugs
06:42 OldCoder :P
06:42 OldCoder What are full punch interview and max drop level?
06:43 OldCoder Respond, please
06:43 OldCoder Look, if you ask people to work for you for free, focus and be responsive
06:44 SergioAD_ I think the punch interview is the frequency of a hit
06:44 OldCoder I have 1 for one of my picks and you have .0001
06:44 OldCoder What's up with that?
06:44 OldCoder This pick is supposed to be 10000X faster??
06:44 SergioAD_ I think I will modify that on future releases
06:45 SergioAD_ pardon me I am testing it too
06:45 OldCoder Answer, please
06:45 OldCoder From a technical perspective
06:45 OldCoder What does the difference mean?
06:45 OldCoder SergioAD_, focus; I have somebody waiting for a phone call from me
06:45 OldCoder I delayed them to help you
06:46 SergioAD_ I am testing that, please wait a little bit
06:46 OldCoder Answer, please, or I must leave
06:46 OldCoder You are not responding; do you know what the setting does?
06:46 OldCoder That is what I wish to know
06:46 OldCoder I do not wish to wait for a test; if you do not know, that is fine
06:46 SergioAD_ I am testing all the values please wait
06:46 OldCoder But you changed the setting
06:46 OldCoder No, I cannot; I am setting it to match sane values
06:47 OldCoder and asking players elsewhere to test
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06:50 SergioAD_ OldCoder: can you send me the patch?
06:50 air does minetest have occlusion culling or just frustum culling?
06:50 SergioAD_ I will make the values more like the others
06:51 OldCoder SergioAD_, I have prepared my version of the mod
06:52 OldCoder Wait while I check it
06:52 SergioAD_ Ok
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06:52 SergioAD_ together will be able to get a cool server :)
06:53 OldCoder http://minetest.org/harddiamond.zip
06:53 OldCoder The mod now appears to be working
06:53 OldCoder Note the name change
06:53 SergioAD_ Ok :)
06:53 * OldCoder is busy IRL now
06:55 hmmmm air, it has both
06:57 SergioAD_ OldCoder: tomorrow I will have ready the entere game
06:57 SergioAD_ to make our final release
06:57 air hmmmm: do you know how it works?
06:57 hmmmm yes
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07:13 SergioAD_ OldCoder: the diamond stills with not image; how can I solve this? pease say me and I make it happend
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07:23 OldCoder Hi
07:23 OldCoder SergioAD_, it works for us
07:23 OldCoder Are you using the ZIP I linked?
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07:36 lantizia Hey really impressed with minetest - where can I see a changelog and also a list of what is yet to be implemented?
07:37 DFeniks textures are named refined_diamond.png refined_diamond_block.png  , but in init.lua line 8   tiles = {"hard_diamond_block.png"},    line 47     inventory_image = "harddiamond_diamond.png",
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07:39 DFeniks change line 8   tiles = {"refined_diamond_block.png"},
07:40 DFeniks line 47     inventory_image = "refined_diamond.png",
07:40 DFeniks i didnt test it
07:41 DFeniks just readed code in that zip file
07:43 DFeniks but why have textures named differently then mod name and item names at all?
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07:46 DFeniks specifically : why texture names use refined diamond but items are called hard diamond?
07:47 DFeniks i guess it doesnt matter . but you have to be consistent and use right texture names in code
08:01 ThatGraemeGuy lantizia: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog / http://dev.minetest.net/Proposals / http://dev.minetest.net/TODO
08:01 ThatGraemeGuy lantizia: maybe also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues & https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues
08:10 OldCoder DFeniks, I'm glad just to get that thing working
08:10 OldCoder He can polish it now
08:10 OldCoder lantizia, Hi
08:10 DFeniks SergioAD_ are 9 hard diamonds supposed to craft into default diamond block ?
08:10 OldCoder lantizia, there is a changelog available in the git tree
08:10 OldCoder lantizia, IIRC you can type git log
08:11 DFeniks or more logical into hard diamond block?
08:11 OldCoder DFeniks, I look forward to talking to you further
08:12 DFeniks because there is no way to craft hard diamond block currently
08:12 OldCoder Yes
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08:12 OldCoder DFeniks, he states this is his first mod
08:12 SergioAD_ OldCoder: yes, I am using it
08:12 OldCoder Patience is called for
08:12 OldCoder Though he should have tested it himself
08:12 DFeniks can i repair his mod?
08:12 OldCoder Of course!
08:12 OldCoder Tear it apart!!
08:12 OldCoder That is my version anyway
08:13 OldCoder http://minetest.org/harddiamonds.zip
08:13 OldCoder Start with that
08:13 OldCoder And don't make the pick too powerful
08:13 OldCoder I think the settings in there are strong enough already
08:14 OldCoder DFeniks, I am very tired physically
08:14 OldCoder Do you understand I valued the Moontest patches, but simply could not tackle Moontest again
08:14 OldCoder right after the Landrush and Silvercrab rebuilds?
08:15 OldCoder I've got IRL to settle and have spent 2 months regardless trying to help out with MT worlds
08:15 DFeniks is this the same as http://minetest.org/harddiamond.zip or you made typo?
08:15 OldCoder Typo
08:15 OldCoder Wait
08:15 OldCoder Singular
08:15 OldCoder harddiamond
08:15 DFeniks ok i got this
08:15 OldCoder DFeniks, see above. Your time is greatly appreciated.
08:16 OldCoder I need to rest 15 minutes to 8 hours now
08:16 OldCoder May be right back
08:16 DFeniks i already downloaded it before
08:17 DFeniks i dont know much about pick settings . i will just fix names
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08:23 DFeniks currently hard diamond block cannot be dig . i tried only hard diamond pick , thought
08:23 DFeniks this may requre more work than i thought
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08:41 DFeniks SergioAD_ do you want me to make hard diamond block softer to mine , or make hard diamond pick stronger ? because now block is level 5 and pick is level 3 . i think nothing can mine block now
08:43 DFeniks i still donk know what other numbers mean , so im not sure how to make it balanced
08:44 OldCoder DFeniks, this is a minor mod; do not stress over it. Add comments, I can polish, it can be a model for new MT coders.
08:45 * OldCoder is resting
08:47 DFeniks i didnt made any comments. im not sure what im supposed to comment.  and make model for modding sounds harder than just make mod
08:49 ThatGraemeGuy DFeniks: are you working in conjunction with the Lua API doc? It seems that a node with level>2 is not diggable
08:50 ThatGraemeGuy https://github.com/minetest/mine​test/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
08:50 ThatGraemeGuy look for tool_capabilities
08:50 DFeniks will check
08:51 DFeniks but no im working only with my intuition and memory scraps that i read somwhere before
08:52 ThatGraemeGuy ah, that seems sub-optimal compared to using the API documentation ;-)
08:52 DFeniks and in minetest game diamond block already is level 3
08:53 ThatGraemeGuy ah ok then I probably misread
08:53 ThatGraemeGuy ah yes I took something out of context
08:54 ThatGraemeGuy If a tool has maxlevel of 2 for a certain group, then a node with the level > 2 is undiggable *for that tool*
08:54 ThatGraemeGuy sorry :-o
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09:51 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Human Rights Day! :-D
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11:01 kaeza mornings
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11:09 Zeno` mornink
11:10 Zeno` kaeza, do you know about Sokomine's issue with items being lost?
11:10 Zeno` let me find it
11:10 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/944
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11:11 Zeno` If anybody feels like testing: https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest/commit/d5e​0ed07456f09125ccfe6712fa389d84b332423.patch    (THAT IS NOT TESTED MUCH AT ALL)
11:13 catninja http://i.imgur.com/jUQBqkG.png is this how you make babies in minetest?
11:13 kaeza Zeno`, don't know much about that, but can test that patch
11:14 catninja planting tiny humans
11:14 kaeza will clone Sokomine/experimental to test
11:15 Zeno` kaeza, actually I couldn't reproduce the problem with her experimental heh
11:15 Zeno` I've had to use moreblocks and the circular saw
11:15 Zeno` (sokomine knows)
11:15 kaeza ah I see
11:16 kaeza also, any testing needed for anything under Windows/MinGW?
11:17 Trixar_za DirectX rendering?
11:18 Zeno` kaeza, the two commits (of Krock's) that I merged 18 hours might need testing on MinGW
11:18 Zeno` I believe MSVC is already tested
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11:21 kaeza will test that too
11:21 kaeza my internets are being horribly slow today ;_;
11:22 kaeza >23kbps
11:28 Zeno` that's... worse than mine!
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11:54 kaeza everything seems to work fine under MinGW
11:57 Zeno` phew :)
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12:06 kaeza Minetest looks so beautiful now... it's almost as if the programmers weren't a bunch of lunatics
12:17 Zeno` it's so pwetty :)
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12:56 * PenguinDad is laughing so hard right now
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13:15 Zeno` you may laugh!
13:15 Zeno` but... hmm, nvm
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13:53 n4x what changes make MT look beautiful?
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13:55 kaeza better textures, the fact that I can use view range >= 300 now (yes, 300, insert "this is sparta" joke here), and something was done to formspecs that they don't look (so much) like ass now
13:56 kaeza also those fixes to lighting, etc
13:56 n4x better textures? I have to check!
13:57 n4x kaeza: how are your guantanamo friends going btw :3
13:57 kaeza n4x, no comments on that
13:58 * n4x hides
13:58 n4x I just read about it
13:59 kaeza yeah, four guys trained in explosives by Al-Qaeda, left free to roam the streets
13:59 kaeza what could possibly go wrong?
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14:20 VanessaE good morning.
14:21 LazyJ Did you bring the donuts?
14:22 * LazyJ has a french press brewing... 1 more minute.
14:23 ThatGraemeGuy good afternoon
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14:41 VanessaE donuts?
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14:41 VanessaE gimme!
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14:45 Jordach meow
14:46 VanessaE hi
14:55 shadowzone hi Jordach
14:55 shadowzone morning VanessaE
15:00 Zeno` hi VanessaE !
15:00 Zeno` hi shadowzone !
15:00 PenguinDad Good morning shadowzone
15:00 Zeno` who's got the doughnuts?
15:00 shadowzone Zeno`: I do
15:00 Zeno` gimme?
15:00 PenguinDad I've only got dough :(
15:00 * shadowzone tosses a doughnut at Zeno`
15:00 Zeno` PenguinDad, hehe
15:01 * Zeno` noms on the yummy
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15:02 Zeno` I need another, please
15:02 * shadowzone hands Zeno` a box of 'em
15:03 Zeno` :-D
15:03 shadowzone that should do ya
15:06 Zeno` yep!
15:06 Zeno` thank thee
15:07 shadowzone You're welcome
15:08 shadowzone you know you are a nerd when you have a laptop, desktop PC, tablet, 2 phones and a rover on your desk
15:15 Amaz Zeno`, here you go! https://www.dropbox.com/s/3w​bwl6m43p343bs/donut.zip?dl=0
15:15 Zeno` lol, nice mod
15:16 Amaz :P
15:16 Zeno` who would have thought that donuts had mese crystals in them
15:16 Amaz XD
15:16 Zeno` ya learn something new every day
15:16 Amaz *mese crystal fragments
15:17 PenguinDad crunchy donuts :D
15:18 shadowzone Who made that mod?
15:18 Amaz Me.
15:18 shadowzone cool
15:18 Amaz Two seconds ago :P
15:18 shadowzone just now?
15:18 shadowzone Oh
15:18 shadowzone Lol
15:18 shadowzone I'll try it out in a bit
15:18 shadowzone right now I'm compiling Minetest
15:19 shadowzone I had to reload Linux Mint 17
15:25 shadowzone Zeno`: whatever you did really raised my FPS, nice job :)
15:27 Zeno` magic
15:28 shadowzone Lol
15:28 shadowzone I can pull 50 to 60
15:28 Zeno` gimme more donuts or I'll revert all the changes
15:29 Jordach u wot m8
15:29 * shadowzone hands Zeno` some donuts
15:29 Zeno` thanks :)
15:29 * Jordach force feeds Zeno` donuts
15:29 shadowzone Jordach: hmm?
15:29 Jordach u havin a gigglwe
15:30 shadowzone Jordach: okay....I don't know what you mean but I'll go with it
15:30 Amaz Zeno` But I gave you donuts!!! Just turn creative mode on! ;)
15:30 * Zeno` is rich in donuts
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16:12 catninja OldCoder: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/attachment/27689
16:12 catninja I made a robot for moontest!
16:12 catninja or I tried
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16:13 SergioAD_ Hello I almost finish the game
16:13 SergioAD_ here on Mexico are the 10:13 AM
16:15 * Jordach found something
16:16 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5/53RHVuqhjgeT.png
16:19 SergioAD_ only I need use the carbone's hotbar skin BUT with the default 8 spaces on it
16:19 SergioAD_ how can I apply that chage?
16:20 Calinou Carbone's hotbar skin is made to strech indefinitely
16:20 Calinou so that when you use /hotbar N (N is a number), it doesn't look broken
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16:21 ciwolsey hey
16:21 ciwolsey is there a way to reload mods without having to restart the game every time?
16:21 Jordach nope
16:21 ciwolsey ok thanks
16:22 Jordach (you'll get used to it in time)
16:22 Calinou the game starts very quickly
16:22 ciwolsey yupo its not much of a problem
16:23 SergioAD_ how can I apply it on a default mod?
16:23 SergioAD_ of the minetest game?
16:24 Calinou you'll need some additional code for that
16:24 Calinou look at init.lua of the default mod of Carbone game
16:24 Calinou or player.lua
16:24 SergioAD_ Ok
16:25 SergioAD_ after that my game will be completed
16:26 Jordach nvidia: y u anti alias my blender
16:28 Calinou anti-aliasing Blender looks cool
16:28 Calinou Jordach, I have a build of NeoTextureEdit I made, which fixes bugs
16:28 Calinou it quits properly and .tgr files open okay
16:29 Jordach mmmmmm
16:29 * Jordach likes eating savoury foods
16:31 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/downl​oads/neotextureedit/NeoTextureEdit-0.6.5-devel.zip
16:32 Calinou extract, run .bat
16:32 Xack hi :)
16:32 Calinou hi Xack
16:32 Xack hi Calinou :)
16:32 Jordach wat
16:32 Jordach double click anywhere there are clouds
16:32 Xack :O
16:33 Jordach (eg, client, multiplayer and advanced)
16:33 Jordach easy crash
16:33 Amaz Sky in game?
16:33 PenguinDad Jordach: that's not a crash
16:33 Jordach Amaz, at main menu
16:33 Amaz Right.
16:34 Jordach it tries to act much like the server when not provided a gameid + name
16:34 Jordach attempts to create worldid world
16:35 Jordach !tell twoelk https://cdn.mediacru.sh/x/xZpaIWGu5wz2.png
16:35 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when twoelk is around
16:36 PenguinDad looks like the letters are falling on you lol
16:39 Jordach PenguinDad, now fixing
16:39 Jordach there is only one of me, at the second
16:43 * Jordach is not abusive
16:43 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G/GzyBHvIhvlRX.png
16:44 Jordach tl;dr it's cold in here and i need something to warm the room up
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16:46 Jordach u wot m8 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/B/BIXxmy3UTByq.png
16:51 Jordach PenguinDad, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5/54ncd1K8ppa4.png
16:52 ciwolsey is there a way to see recipes?
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16:55 marktraceur ciwolsey: There's a mod that lets you build a computer with recipes...
16:55 marktraceur Or there was.
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17:04 ciwolsey oh
17:08 * Jordach considers bringing it back
17:08 Jordach might finally make Sokomine happy
17:10 PenguinDad Jordach: much better now
17:11 DFeniks ciwolsey: you could also try unified_inventory mod it allows you to see recipes.  unless you alredy use some mod that changes inventory
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17:24 Krock hi
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17:50 ciwolsey is it possible for blogs to have properties?
17:50 ciwolsey that other blocks can check?
17:50 ciwolsey blocks*
17:52 Krock blocks are 16*16*16 nodes.
17:52 Krock do you mean nodes?
17:52 ciwolsey yes
17:52 ciwolsey nodes
17:52 Calinou ciwolsey, yes, you can add metadata
17:52 Calinou see the carts mod for an example (booster rails)
17:53 ciwolsey ill just read api
17:53 Krock see default:chest, it has a formspe in the metadata
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17:55 ciwolsey thanks
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18:00 ciwolsey anyone happen to know of a quick way to share your screen with someone in linux?
18:01 Calinou *cough* not TeamViewer *cough*
18:01 Calinou VNC, but then you need to forward a port
18:01 Krock Btw, is GPL compatible with LGPL 2.1?
18:02 kaeza do you mean remote desktop, or simply "screenshot"?
18:02 Calinou SSH with X forwarding is heavy on bandwidth
18:02 Calinou Krock, #gnu is better suited for that question
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18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> OldCoder: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/attachment/27689
18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> I made a robot for moontest!
18:31 catninja 17:12 < catninja> or I tried
18:31 catninja (if you missed it :D)
18:32 catninja rooboots
18:33 ciwolsey how can you run some basic setup once a node is put down?
18:33 ciwolsey i just want to initialise the meta data
18:33 kaeza use on_construct / after_place_node in the node def
18:33 ciwolsey ok
18:33 ciwolsey thanks
18:34 PilzAdam ciwolsey, if you depend on the meta being set you should use on_construct
18:34 PilzAdam since after_place_node is only called if  a player places the node
18:35 Krock catninja, NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID
18:35 Krock That site can grief personal data
18:35 ciwolsey what do you mean by 'node def' ?
18:36 PilzAdam ciwolsey, nodedef refers to the node definition table you pass to register_node
18:36 ciwolsey oh
18:37 catninja Krock: the site uses cacert http://www.cacert.org/ which people that like open software should use too, but the major browsers does not care about such things
18:37 catninja that is what triggers the warning
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18:38 Krock ah
18:39 ciwolsey https://gist.github.com/ciw​olsey/e7785956f2823c301631
18:39 ciwolsey is it something like this?
18:39 kaeza "which people that like open software should use"
18:39 Krock ciwolsey, funtions start with (arg1, arg2,..) and end with "end"
18:39 ciwolsey ohh
18:40 Krock the brackets {} arenot needed in on_construct
18:40 catninja such english. but yeah it's for the greater good
18:40 kaeza so we should all use the same things, right?
18:40 kaeza yay for freedom
18:40 Krock ^
18:40 ciwolsey like this? https://gist.github.com/ciw​olsey/e7785956f2823c301631
18:41 ciwolsey minus the brace after the args
18:41 Krock https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/1add962266225a5265d1
18:41 ciwolsey ;) thanks
18:41 catninja kaeza: yes and be cool and go to CCC and get people to sign your cryptokey
18:43 Krock ciwolsey, it's regular Lua, just extended with some special functions. Once you know the syntax, it's simple
18:43 ciwolsey yeah ive used lua before just forget stuff
18:44 ciwolsey ive spent 8 hours coding javascript today so its kind of hard not to write that at the moment xD
18:44 kaeza my cryptokey is signed by my cat; your argument is invalid
18:45 OldCoder catninja that looks very nice
18:46 Krock ciwolsey, that's not an excuse. It's easy to switch between C++, Lua and PHP :P
18:49 ciwolsey not when youre as old as me it isnt
18:49 ciwolsey php :(
18:49 kaeza ^
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18:49 ciwolsey looks like a cats been dancing on my $ key
18:49 harrison but at least two of {C++,Lua,PHP} are terrible languages
18:50 Calinou C++ and Lua?
18:50 Calinou </WordPress developer>
18:50 harrison also -- how many cats can dance on a single key?
18:50 kaeza srsly
18:50 ciwolsey why do people use lua so much ?
18:50 Krock Jast for my justification: I use PHP because it's supported on more hosts than any other dynamic programming language.
18:50 ciwolsey why not js?
18:50 Krock *just
18:50 Calinou Lua is more readable, easier to write than JavaScript, at least for me
18:50 kaeza ciwolsey, because Lua is perfect for embedding
18:50 Krock JS is bad.
18:50 Calinou and it's made to be embedded into games and such
18:50 ciwolsey whats bad about js?
18:50 Calinou as an additional scripting language
18:51 PenguinDad because node.js
18:51 Calinou also has very good performance thanks to LuaJIT
18:51 Calinou Krock, but all the good hosts support Python :p
18:51 ciwolsey but i highly doubt luas performance vs js
18:51 harrison one would not want to code a realtime raytracer in JS or Lua
18:51 Krock ciwolsey, #securityleaks #noscript ##fix_your_connection
18:51 harrison or C++ either
18:51 Krock Calinou, oke. I don't care about phyton anyway :P
18:52 harrison also this python -- it might eat that cat you were talking about
18:52 harrison the dancing cat
18:52 ciwolsey also dont see whats bad about node
18:52 harrison hey, btw, when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn?
18:53 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor!
18:53 harrison [rimshot]
18:53 kaeza [cough]
18:53 * Krock does not get english word-jokes
18:53 Calinou [rimshot] = sounds like a shotgun to me
18:53 Krock ^
18:53 ciwolsey so how do you go about animating blocks?
18:54 ciwolsey is that a matter of registering many and having them replace themselves?
18:54 Krock you can use pngs like the torch...
18:54 kaeza yes, or use entities to fake nodes
18:54 Calinou animated textures are possible
18:54 kaeza depends on what do you mean by "animation"
18:54 Krock (not to confuse with GIF files=
18:54 harrison Calinou: shotgun ammunition is center fire
18:55 ciwolsey a node that changes appearance based on say.. time
18:55 harrison you are thinking of .22 rifle shells
18:55 kaeza ciwolsey, I mean, do you mean animating textures, or animating shape?
18:56 ciwolsey textures
18:56 ciwolsey im thinking of say...
18:56 Krock ciwolsey, I suggest you to look at the torch definition. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game​/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L667 It uses such special textures
18:56 ciwolsey a burner
18:56 ciwolsey a cooker being animated
18:56 ciwolsey but it might also be based on state
18:56 ciwolsey so lets say some hot metal.. thats cooling
18:56 kaeza look at how torches are implemented, as Krock pointed
18:56 ciwolsey ok
18:56 Krock Yes, two states (on/off) are required, then you can animate both seperately
18:56 Calinou look at how the active furnace is done to
18:58 kaeza you have a sheet with all the animation frames in a single image, and tell the game how many frames there are, and how long should the animation be
18:58 Krock Yeah. the furnace might be a beter example because torchlike drawtype is a bt confusing
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19:21 Calinou my VM successfully upgraded from Fedora 20 to Fedora 21
19:21 Calinou quite lengthy process, but works
19:24 Megaf_ Hi all
19:24 ElectronLibre Hello Megaf_.
19:24 Megaf_ Calinou: What's so special about upgrading from one version to other?
19:24 Calinou people say it breaks all the time
19:24 Calinou so I want to prove them wrong
19:24 Megaf_ It was a very simple thing back when I used Mandriva, and still simple in Debian
19:24 Megaf_ most of tha time...
19:25 Megaf_ Calinou: Fedora should work ok after upgrading
19:25 Megaf_ they usually care about that
19:26 Megaf_ And how did you upgrade?
19:26 exio4 Megaf_, he uses ubuntu, ubuntu wants to be the archlinux of the newcomer
19:26 exio4 where you upgrade and the system kills itself
19:26 Megaf_ Mandriva used to notify you about the possibility of upgrading and would assist you
19:27 Megaf_ heh
19:27 Megaf_ Arch Linux is a pain to keep it running stable
19:27 Megaf_ it has to be actively maintained
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19:28 Calinou fedup
19:29 Calinou you have to install fedup, then do sudo fedup --network 21 --product=noproduct
19:29 Megaf_ !server THIS
19:29 MinetestBot Megaf_: THIS IS A TEST | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 9/10, 7/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Pixel | Ping: 2ms
19:29 Calinou wait for download… reboot… select System Upgrade boot option, wait a bit… then your system is upgraded
19:29 Calinou requires 2 reboots, unlike just 1 for Ubuntu or Debian
19:29 exio4 I don't my system after upgrades
19:30 exio4 using sid, I do dist-upgrade every week
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19:30 Megaf_ exio4: I do dist-upgrade every day on my Jessie
19:30 exio4 testing doesn't change much :P
19:30 exio4 sid is a pain though
19:30 Calinou sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
19:30 Calinou this is enough, Megaf_ :P
19:31 exio4 dist-upgrade
19:31 exio4 oh, apt
19:31 Calinou full-upgrade in apt is like apt-get dist-upgrade
19:31 exio4 I still don't get used to it
19:31 Calinou I got used to it since it is available :P
19:32 exio4 I need more time for typing "apt" alone than "apt-get"
19:32 Megaf_ I didnt get used to apt
19:32 Megaf_ I rather use apt-get
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19:32 exio4 \o/ Megaf_
19:32 Megaf_ I dont even use aptitude...
19:32 Megaf_ apt-get is automatic, apt obligates me to think
19:32 Megaf_ I dont like thinking, lol
19:33 exio4 I haven't used aptitude since it tried to kill my system :P
19:33 exio4 I was using a fucked up debian with lots of repositories mixed, just sayin' I had like 25% of the system with ubuntu libraries
19:34 PenguinDad lol
19:34 exio4 ;_; I am not bored enough to write this boilerplate
19:34 Megaf_ exio4: I fixed all my problems using only stable main as repo
19:34 Megaf_ staying away of contrib and non-free
19:34 exio4 I am using debian stable as host
19:35 exio4 a really minimal setup
19:35 exio4 I run my main system inside a LXC though, debian sid
19:35 Megaf_ however, Im obligated to use contrib and non-free because GPUs...
19:35 Megaf_ (on my laptops and desktops)
19:35 exio4 I am using nouveau because I am too lazy :P
19:35 Calinou yay for not using contrib and non-free
19:35 exio4 I need blobs for the wifi though
19:36 Megaf_ Im using nouveau here too, and blob for wifi, its a b43
19:36 exio4 Calinou, has nouveau got perf improvements for my old GT610?
19:36 Megaf_ And Im using nouveau because nvidia driver wont work on 64 bit EFI...
19:36 Calinou probably slightly
19:36 Calinou but GT610 won't improve its performance itself :)
19:36 Calinou see, b43 is a blob
19:36 Calinou why would you have issues with “EFI” (you meant UEFI)?
19:37 Megaf_ maybe, but in my case is EFI
19:37 Megaf_ it's a Macbook Pro
19:37 exio4 this GT610 ran RE at 90FPS with mid settings
19:37 exio4 and MC with 70~FPS, and MT with 70~100, and ...
19:37 Calinou ah
19:37 exio4 right now, I can play RE, at 800x600 and lowest settings, and I barely get 30FPS in normal maps
19:38 Calinou thought it wasn't a Mac
19:38 exio4 and <10FPS
19:38 Calinou an Intel IGP does better than your GT610 then :P
19:38 exio4 in anything bigger than bath
19:38 Megaf_ if anyone want to see how people behaves join
19:38 Megaf_ !server THIS IS
19:38 MinetestBot Megaf_: THIS IS A TEST | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 9/10, 7/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Pixel | Ping: 2ms
19:38 exio4 my GT610 is like old as hell
19:38 Megaf_ Its a mess ther
19:38 exio4 I am not going to replace my GPU, it'd be a waste of money unless I sell a kidney in the black market for paying one
19:38 Megaf_ but there are some cool creathoins tho
19:38 exio4 a decent gpu starts at 4000 ARS
19:39 Megaf_ exio4: I have a 320M
19:39 Megaf_ it was old/slow back when it was new
19:39 Megaf_ and still ok to me
19:39 exio4 my GT610 with nvidia blob is kinda ok for me too, based on the fact that the "most expensive resource-wise" game I ever played was L4D2
19:40 exio4 and just guessing, this FX never had windows running natively!
19:40 Aragas yea talk about replacing components
19:40 exio4 (only in a VM for devs reasons.. :P)
19:41 Aragas In Russia all this stuff has risen in price like for 25%
19:41 exio4 sounds like a normal day in argentina
19:41 Megaf_ sound like a good day in Brazil
19:41 Aragas because of афдд ща учсрфтпу
19:41 Aragas pardon
19:42 Aragas because of fall of exchange
19:42 exio4 well, do you have a black market of foreign currency?
19:42 Aragas if i call it correct
19:42 exio4 I don't think anyone that isn't in venezuela can beat argentina there :P
19:42 Aragas nah, i think, yes, but this is like the lasf hope
19:43 Aragas don't wanna do dat stuff, who knoes how it will work
19:43 Aragas if will
19:43 exio4 Aragas, can you search how much the "Chaser A31" is in your country atm?
19:43 exio4 it is a thermaltake case
19:44 Aragas +15$ for this month, wtf
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19:44 exio4 I bought one recently; http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/M​LA-521508813-gabinete-thermaltake-cha​ser-a31-mid-tower-usb-30-ventana-_JM ; 1689 ARS
19:45 exio4 which is like 200 USD using official's exchange rate, the case is 80~USDin the US
19:45 Megaf_ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTg1OTQ
19:45 Aragas 86 $ here
19:45 Megaf_ !title
19:45 MinetestBot Megaf_: [Phoronix] Hardkernel Launches $35 Development Board That Can Smash The RPi
19:45 Megaf_ That could be my next Minetest Server
19:45 exio4 sounds like cheap
19:46 Aragas VP300A1W2N correct?
19:46 Aragas was 73$ a month ago
19:47 Aragas i'm butthurting
19:47 exio4 13USD isn't that much ><
19:48 exio4 VP300A1W2N
19:48 exio4 yes
19:48 exio4 www.thermaltake.com/product​s-model.aspx?id=C_00001951
19:48 Aragas is a precedent
19:49 Yellowberry hey
19:49 Aragas like this randon
19:49 exio4 FK YEAH!
19:49 Aragas Intel Core i7-4790K
19:49 Aragas +66 $
19:50 Aragas 388$
19:50 Yellowberry if you go to http://zk12.mooo.com/ and try to log in, does it say xhr poll error?
19:50 exio4 +66USD for an i7 extreme edition sounds like 0.01%
19:50 Calinou an i7-4790K isn't Extreme Edition
19:50 Calinou X suffix is EE
19:50 exio4 oh
19:50 Calinou K = unlocke
19:50 exio4 I read it as X
19:50 exio4 I know, more like "locked down"
19:50 exio4 no PCI passthru
19:51 exio4 overclocking should be a must in all cpus
19:51 Krock wtf no!
19:51 PenguinDad Krock: why not?
19:52 Calinou exio4 for Intel CEO
19:52 Krock PenguinDad, because cpu not overclox
19:52 Aragas Can't even upgrade somenthin', don't wanna overpay
19:52 exio4 I am overpaying for everything imported
19:52 Aragas nah' im a student
19:52 Krock Getting an old office PC or somehardware from a friend is enough to run minetest. :D
19:52 Aragas You know
19:53 exio4 Aragas, so am I
19:53 exio4 I am
19:53 Megaf_ Yellowberry: yes
19:53 exio4 whatever
19:53 Yellowberry thanks Megaf_
19:53 Yellowberry I think its my IRCd
19:54 * Krock keeps the crashed chome open to finish the download and hits [Ok, reload] after that
19:54 exio4 I am getting my last 2500 ARS of scholarship for the 20~
19:55 exio4 20 dec = buying PSU :D
19:55 Aragas 2500 ars?
19:55 Aragas like 300 $?
19:55 exio4 argentine peso = ARS
19:55 exio4 Aragas, at official exchange rate, it is 300 ARS
19:56 exio4 in real tech terms, it is 120~ in US prices
19:56 exio4 s/300 ARS/300 USD/
19:56 Aragas oh
19:56 exio4 we have import fees that are a bit... high
19:56 Aragas don't understood, is that a month apy?
19:57 Aragas pay
19:57 exio4 nope, it is 8600~ ARS per year for the first two years
19:57 exio4 I already got 6000~ ARS
19:58 Aragas Still more than i get
19:58 exio4 (I wasted 6k ARS on my ups, case and hdd)
19:58 exio4 teach is cheaper there though
19:58 exio4 tech*
19:58 Aragas 27$ per month
19:59 exio4 325 USD per year
19:59 Aragas Yep
20:03 exio4 Calinou, IRL without training, I tell you, I can't swim fast
20:04 Krock Calinou, a task for you: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=163974#p163974
20:04 Krock kill that spammer
20:04 Jordach exio4, i can swim
20:04 PenguinDad exio4: sam can survive swimming in lava for a short time...
20:04 exio4 lol PenguinDad
20:04 Jordach (and dive underwater for a moderately long time)
20:04 Aragas pfff
20:04 Calinou for infinitely long time if you use torches
20:05 Calinou :P
20:05 exio4 how many minutes Jordach
20:05 Aragas i drink lava every day
20:05 Jordach exio4, ~2
20:05 exio4 well, me too
20:05 Aragas you know, winter and stuff
20:05 exio4 when I am not fkd up with allergies :p
20:07 exio4 ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~
20:07 ShadowBot exio4: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:07 Jordach sod off ShadowBot
20:07 Krock ~ hi
20:07 ShadowBot Hello Krock!
20:07 Jordach nobody asked for your automated opinion
20:08 PenguinDad ~ what is this place ~
20:08 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:08 PenguinDad :P
20:08 exio4 ;_;
20:09 exio4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MLU25MQU9w
20:09 exio4 !title
20:09 MinetestBot exio4: Tarja &quot;Never Enough&quot; Official Lyric Video - from &quot;Colours In The Dark&quot; - YouTube
20:10 Krock MinetestBot, fix your HTMLspecial chars
20:10 PenguinDad &quot;Meow&quot;
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20:11 PenguinDad !cat
20:11 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/qNBpvF3.jpg
20:11 Jordach >MCPE for Windows Phone
20:11 Jordach as soon as i have no monies
20:30 kaeza you have a win phone?
20:32 Megaf_ I wish I could download hardware
20:33 Megaf_ ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~
20:33 ShadowBot Megaf_: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:33 Megaf ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~
20:33 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:33 Megaf stupid bot
20:34 Megaf [20:34:05] * [Whois] Megaf is Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf (Megaf)
20:34 ElectronLibre Bots, computers, everything like that are stupids. They just obey the orders we gave them.
20:34 Megaf ElectronLibre: he is not even obeying me
20:35 Megaf ~hostmask add
20:35 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:35 ElectronLibre He obeys his creator, who seems having said that after ~ he must find a command name, and " " isn't a command name :/..
20:35 n4x what command is it trying to do though
20:36 Megaf ~ there is no going back, what we used to be, there is no room of us, no place for me, never enough, never enough, oh, never enough, never enough, I gave it all ~
20:36 ShadowBot Megaf: O.K.
20:36 Megaf Yay
20:36 Megaf I made it
20:36 Megaf ElectronLibre: you are right
20:36 n4x what did it do.. o.O
20:36 Megaf I have no idea
20:36 Megaf but it said ok
20:36 n4x nice...
20:36 Megaf ~op
20:36 ShadowBot Megaf: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:36 n4x ~ping
20:36 ShadowBot pong
20:39 MinetestForFun Hi everybody, i 've a big problem with my server, i re-compiled it yseterday, and now i've this errors... my server doesn't boot now :/
20:39 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9466940/
20:40 MinetestForFun can someone help me ?
20:40 Megaf MinetestForFun: disable the mod food
20:41 ElectronLibre There isn't only the food mod which make these errores apparently ._.
20:41 Megaf and if possible report this error to the author of the mod
20:41 MinetestForFun i've tried without the food mod, after that an another mod let down the server, after the disable of the second mod it's the same things..
20:41 Megaf MinetestForFun: the warnings are normal, the were added to help fixing bugs
20:41 Megaf but they dont crash the server, are just warnings
20:41 Megaf food is crashing your server
20:42 ElectronLibre I tried to launch the server with the lastest sfan5's build, and the same mods/same subgame, it sends me the errors but the server starts.
20:42 MinetestForFun no megaf, you don't understand me
20:42 Megaf disable it, try again, and paste the output if doesnt work
20:42 MinetestForFun it's not only the food mod
20:42 ElectronLibre (Do what he does MinetestForFun he will understand with the second paste)
20:42 MinetestForFun when i disable the food mod, the unified_inventory mod crash my server, after the unified_inventory mod, it's an another mod, etc
20:43 Megaf MinetestForFun: are those mods updated?
20:43 MinetestForFun okok i paste the log after the food mdo disable
20:43 MinetestForFun all of my mods are up to date
20:43 Megaf and anyway, disable food, try again and paste the output
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20:43 Megaf its the only way we can help
20:44 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467016/
20:44 MinetestForFun (after the food mod disabled)
20:44 MinetestForFun the server doesn't boot
20:48 MinetestForFun any idea ? :)
20:48 Jordach MinetestForFun, the serverlist didn't respond to you
20:49 MinetestForFun but why ? before the recompilation, it respond me ...
20:49 Megaf MinetestForFun: did you change anything on minetest.conf?
20:49 Megaf like the master server address
20:49 Megaf and that shouldnt crash the server...
20:49 MinetestForFun i've changed nothing in the minetest.conf
20:50 MinetestForFun it's the same before the recompilation
20:50 MinetestForFun no, i changed nothing
20:50 MinetestForFun i can send you a pastebin of my minetest.Cfon if you want
20:50 Megaf MinetestForFun: please create an issue here describing as best as you can all you can https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues
20:51 Megaf I mean, with a title that explains the problem and on description that it was working and so on
20:51 MinetestForFun the mientest.conf : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467143/
20:52 MinetestForFun ok i will create an issue...
20:55 Megaf MinetestForFun: you can copy and paste there
20:55 Megaf write ``` in one line, hit enter
20:55 Megaf paste what you wish
20:55 Megaf and write ```
20:56 Megaf under the paste
20:56 Megaf so like this
20:56 Megaf ```
20:56 Megaf pasted stuff
20:56 Megaf ```
20:56 Megaf MinetestForFun: got it?
20:56 ElectronLibre (I've seen what he needs to paste it's a least 150 lines)
21:02 ElectronLibre I need to know, could someone tell when was commited the code which warns you when you use global variables please?
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21:20 MinetestForFun for the moment i do a rollback of the server
21:21 MinetestForFun we create a bracnh "unstable" for the issue wich is going to post in a issue on the minetest/issue (on github)
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21:29 Yellowberry I am compiling InspIRCd
21:29 Yellowberry yay
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21:38 MinetestForFun somebody can explain my why i've this message on boot of my server : 22:34:21: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Connection error: Connexion refusée
21:39 MinetestForFun Connexion refusée = connection refused
21:39 sfan5 hm
21:40 sfan5 maybe it's trying to connect to something
21:40 sfan5 servers.minetest.net possibly
21:40 sfan5 servers.minetest.net is fine
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21:40 PilzAdam MinetestForFun, do you use the IRC mod?
21:41 ElectronLibre Yes he does ._.
21:41 MinetestForFun yes i use the irc mod
21:41 MinetestForFun you think it's an answer of this mod ?
21:41 PilzAdam try disabling it
21:44 MinetestForFun non it's not the irc mod, when disabled the same message is here
21:44 MinetestForFun no*
21:44 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467557/
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21:46 PilzAdam does it happen with all mods disabled?
21:47 MinetestForFun it's not my goal, but i try it
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21:49 MinetestForFun it still the same thing without mods : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9467616/
21:51 PilzAdam which Minetest version?
21:52 Jordach sfan5, /back
21:53 MinetestForFun i've tried with the "December 9, 2014" (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit​/2f8fbdb9f52d2118108d69914207766e296d7d37) build and with the "Oct 18, 2014 "(https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/​fe8ef1be59399a327d9df50a0ab823bb2731de79) build
21:55 MinetestForFun with this two build, it's the same thing
21:55 MinetestForFun before the update of my subgame with minetest_game this error wasn't here
21:57 PilzAdam what mods are in your subgame?
21:58 MinetestForFun https://github.com/Ombridride/minetest-minetes​tforfun-server/tree/master/minetestforfun_game
21:59 MinetestForFun my subgame is a merge of Carbone and minetest_game, it works well before the last update, we merged the latest updates of minetest_game with our carbone "modified" version
22:01 PilzAdam can you try starting your server with the minimal subgame?
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22:07 Jordach lolwat
22:08 Jordach they put a fucking jet powered tank in TOCA Touring Cars (on console)
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22:25 Inocudom This is what is outside my house right now: http://www.weather.com/travel/commuter-cond​itions/news/winter-storm-damon-latest-news
22:26 Inocudom Big, nasty storms and volcanic eruptions are exploding all over the planet right now. This is one deathly-serious December.
22:29 VanessaE zzzz
22:29 VanessaE no worse than any other year
22:29 Inocudom Those winds outside my house... How long-lived, how loud, how strong they are. They look a little like the following: http://youtu.be/LSUG8uhrFyE
22:30 VanessaE or did you forget about hurricane Katrina, the volcano in Iceland that stopped all air traffic for like 3 days, and the earthquake that caused the tsunami that destroyed Fukushima and decimated parts of Japan?
22:31 Inocudom And all those happened in recent times. Very nasty events those were too.
22:31 VanessaE dude, unless you've got an EF1 or larger tornado roaring past your house, I don't think you need to worry about it
22:31 VanessaE that video depicts some pretty weak winds
22:31 Inocudom There have been many, many earthquakes lately by the way.
22:31 VanessaE compared to what I grew up with in the US midwest
22:32 VanessaE so?
22:32 VanessaE earthquakes are part of tectonic activity
22:32 VanessaE nothing humans can do will change the frequency or intensity of earthquakes (though fracking will cause some local tremors in areas that are usually quiet)
22:33 Inocudom Fracking is a contributing factor. A big one too,.
22:33 VanessaE not all that big
22:34 VanessaE huge earthquakes have been and will keep happening with or without fracking
22:35 VanessaE you're literally panicking over nothing.
22:35 VanessaE this all reads like all those disaster predictions leading up to December, 2012.
22:35 VanessaE somehow, we all seem to still be here.
22:36 Inocudom There are high winds in Europe right now, and the Philipines suffered Typhoon Hagupit, probably the worst of the storms. Don't forget the east coast either.
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22:36 Inocudom And, yes, the midwest still has hellish storms.
22:37 Inocudom Err, the west coast storm. That one has some fierce rain and winds.
22:37 VanessaE big deal.  The US has records of severe hurricanes, category 5 as far back as 1935.
22:37 VanessaE (Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 to be exact)
22:38 VanessaE F5/EF5 tornado records go back to 1950
22:39 VanessaE officially that is
22:39 VanessaE unofficially, they go back to 1880
22:39 Inocudom But the weather is not the only concern. Society itself is crumbling as well, as I think we are all seeing. Just look at the players on most Minetest servers.
22:40 VanessaE earthquake records going back to 1900, how about an 8.8 on the Richter scale, in 1906 in Ecuador.
22:40 VanessaE players on most minetest servers are kids
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22:40 VanessaE and they're the same mentality as they were when I was growing up 30 years ago.
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22:41 VanessaE the only difference is now they have a way to communicate with lots of people at once, so you can actually *see* it
22:41 VanessaE (before, it was just a telephone or if they were lucky, some kind of physical bulletin board or club)
22:41 VanessaE society may be going down the shithole, but it isn't our kids that are at fault.
22:42 VanessaE it's certain members of the *adult* population who are responsible.
22:42 Inocudom Why would it be the kids? It is the adults that are responsible, but the kids learn from them, of course.
22:42 VanessaE you cannot hold a child to a higher standard than you are willing to live up to yourself (the understood you, not you personally Inocudom)
22:43 VanessaE why would it be?  because you just pointed the finger at the kids.
22:43 VanessaE by way of pointing at "players on minetest servers"
22:43 VanessaE most of which are kids.
22:43 VanessaE (by and large, I'd say 75% of the players on these servers are under 18)
22:44 Inocudom And no adults are more guilty than the self-proclaimed gods and godesses of this world (the world leaders.) No man nor woman should ever proclaim such.
22:44 VanessaE at any rate, the world is not falling apart at the seams, so cool it :)
22:45 Inocudom Very true, VanessaE. That is why you must be very careful of what you expose kids to. Hate not the little ones.
22:45 VanessaE precisely so.
22:46 Inocudom Those who hate, harm, and kill children are the most wicked people of all. My hatred and anger burns against such monsters.
22:47 VanessaE indeed.
22:48 VanessaE idk why you suddenly shifted to that, though.
22:48 VanessaE from high winds that have you worried, to volcanoes to ....
22:48 VanessaE erm..
22:48 Inocudom They literally are monsters too. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
22:49 VanessaE dude, you're all over the map today
22:50 Inocudom I shift very easily. Speaking of tornadoes, way more of the planet is tornado country these days.
22:50 Inocudom Now, to prove that I can think, the news reactions to this stuff means either...
22:51 Inocudom A: Disasters really are increasing accross the planet.
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22:52 Inocudom B: They want us to think that disasters are on the increase for the purposes of the powers that be. Me, I answer both A and B.
22:53 Inocudom Because when things get really, really bad, people are more willing to submit to their governments. They themselves state that the people will come to them for safety.
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22:54 chrisf Inocudom: news is increasingly entertainment, and disaster-porn sells.
22:55 Inocudom Disasters and wars can be very useful to corporations and governments. Never forget that. I learned such stuff from a number of sources on the internet.
22:56 Inocudom Indeed, it is entertainment... And indoctrination. And that entertainment is getting more and more sick.
22:57 jalcine Fortunately, some of us know that and fight against it.
22:57 Inocudom http://youtu.be/wtnN5Tl5cqk?l​ist=UUBVGZny2lpynNDQe-rdC1eA
22:58 Inocudom Guy's beliefs may not agree with you, both those are real shows, and the reactions are real.
22:58 Inocudom Welcome, jalcine.
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22:59 Inocudom I, personally, am glad that the guy did not get eaten alive. Though some might say that he was eaten alive by Twitter.
23:01 Inocudom Yes, those winds are still outside my house. I hate the sound of that wind during the night. So irritating.
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23:05 Inocudom Welcome, chrisf. I hope you are staying sane, as Alan Watt like to say to people. I am barely holding on to my sanity, as is obvious.
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23:33 coagen VanessaE: hey, got a sec?
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23:39 VanessaE hm?
23:40 coagen VanessaE: pm plz...
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