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01:36 CrashOverride Hello.
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01:55 jentron what's the command in world edit to clear a region?
01:55 jentron That is, delete all the nodes or replace them with air?
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02:20 jentron thanks
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02:53 kaeza looks like yahoo mail fucked up something in their servers... 1400 emails downloaded yet again ;_;
02:53 Zeno` feature!
02:54 Zeno` it's the automatic redundant triple download backup feature
02:54 kaeza hah
02:54 n4x but only triple?
02:54 Zeno` it does more?
02:55 Zeno` automatic redundant infinite download backup feature (ARID_BF V1.0)
02:55 n4x but infinite is expensive
02:55 Zeno` doesn't matter
02:55 n4x you only need an enterprise level of redudancy
02:55 Zeno` it's good for their income
02:56 Zeno` you have to purchase the optional backup servers
02:56 Zeno` and each new backup server becomes full as soon as you purchase it
02:56 Zeno` Profit!
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03:10 john_minetest hi
03:10 n4x :O a wild john_minetest
03:10 * john_minetest uses "Hello!"
03:10 john_minetest This was not very effective.
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03:13 Zeno` lol
03:30 john_minetest Zenie
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07:19 john_minetest Oh, I missed the chance for getting better in the "most words said" IRC stats for the 4 - 5 am duration
07:20 Zeno` :)
07:21 john_minetest https://mediacru.sh/Cnhc0HIPbtla
07:22 john_minetest Wanted to use my graphics tablet a bit more :P
07:23 rickmcfarley lol
07:25 Zeno` ooo nice
07:26 Zeno` I have a Wacom
07:26 Zeno` your animation methods may need work :)
07:28 Zeno` I made a pretty picture as well!
07:28 Zeno` http://i.imgur.com/L57h6rZ.jpg
07:28 john_minetest Well, I only used 3 frames.
07:28 LazyJ Heh. No worries about the animation.
07:28 Zeno` yes, but you see your reindeer appears to be missing knees
07:28 Zeno` lol :)
07:28 LazyJ Here's one that's popular but not fancy:
07:28 LazyJ http://youtu.be/w0ffwDYo00Q
07:28 Zeno` I'm poking fun at you
07:29 john_minetest I'd do tweening usually but I just wanted to do it quick :P
07:31 john_minetest I'm using a Wacom Intuos Pen&Touch Medium.
07:32 Zeno` I have intuos4 that I use to draw some of my botanical illustrations
07:32 Zeno` the more important ones I do in ink
07:33 john_minetest Intuos4 was the professional series iirc.
07:33 Zeno` Probably; I got the best I could afford
07:33 john_minetest The old intuos became intuos pro and the old bamboo became intuos now.
07:33 Zeno` just wish it was a bit bigger
07:33 Zeno` other than the size I love it
07:34 john_minetest Mine is about 21 x 13 cm.
07:34 john_minetest active surface
07:34 Zeno` I'm used to drawing on A3 with large strokes, which is why the size of my intuos4 limits me a bit
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07:35 Zeno` I use it a lot for touching stuff up as well
07:35 Zeno` e.g. I'll draw on paper or film, get it scanned and do touch-ups digitally
07:35 john_minetest I'm used to drawing on the edge of paper with text on it with tiny strokes. So small tablets work for me ;)
07:35 Zeno` hehe yeah. Everybody has a different style
07:36 john_minetest hmm, I'll be back in half an hour.
07:47 Zeno` hi OldCoder
07:47 Zeno` didn't see you sneak in :)
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08:15 john_minetest hi
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09:00 OldCoder Zeno`, hey this day
09:00 OldCoder Zzz
09:01 OldCoder kaeza, see PM over at Inchra it is a Cinchra
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09:08 kaeza mornings
09:09 Calinou hi
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09:16 john_minetest Hi OldCoder
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09:48 PilzAdam lol https://github.com/minetest/minetest​_game/pull/365#issuecomment-65711075
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09:53 Krock PilzAdam, OMG I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!
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09:56 Zeno` me to!
09:56 Krock *!!!!
09:57 * Zeno` jumps up and down in excitement
09:57 * Krock gives Zeno` some LSD
09:58 Zeno` wow, even better!
09:58 * Zeno` looks at the pretty colours
09:58 john_minetest There was a drugs mod once.
09:58 john_minetest [edudrugs], educational drugs.
09:58 john_minetest They made damage.
09:58 Krock yours. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4103
09:58 Calinou is there a drug called “Boost library”?
09:59 Calinou </elitist programmer>
09:59 john_minetest I am so high on C++.
09:59 john_minetest :P
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10:04 Zeno` you're weird john_minetest
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10:23 john_minetest I'm not weird.
10:23 Zeno` are too!
10:23 Zeno` :p
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10:25 Krock you are wired
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10:28 john_minetest Ah, you finally found out that I am an electrical cephalopod AI!
10:29 Krock yes.
10:29 * john_minetest crawls away
10:29 Zeno` I used to be a cephalopod as well
10:29 Zeno` cost me a fortune to buy gloves
10:29 * john_minetest shoots lasers from his eyes and destroys cities.
10:30 Zeno` :-o
10:30 Zeno` careful where you look!
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11:28 kilbith !seen blockmen
11:28 MinetestBot kilbith: blockmen was last seen at 2014-11-09 16:16:22 UTC on #minetest
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13:17 catninja what most servers look like: http://imgur.com/gallery/VMZ1s1F
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13:43 XeBlackWater hello
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14:41 XeBlackWater how i create a bed?
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14:44 Krock XeBlackWater, get a crafting guide
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14:52 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Performance of main client loop up to 2x faster In places, up to 3 times faster 2b119e1 http://git.io/VYemZA (2014-12-07T00:51:01+10:00)
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15:46 XeBlackWater Krock:
15:46 XeBlackWater are you here Krock ?
15:46 XeBlackWater where i can find a crafting guide
15:46 Krock XeBlackWater, no I'm not.
15:47 XeBlackWater but where are you
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15:53 Krock XeBlackWater, under your bed
15:56 XeBlackWater are you a monster?
15:56 XeBlackWater i`m scarry by monster
15:56 Krock *scarried
15:56 XeBlackWater i told you to my mom, you are a monster and want to eat me
15:57 XeBlackWater my mom say you are not a monster
15:57 XeBlackWater you make joke with me
15:58 XeBlackWater so, where i find a crafting guide to download
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16:26 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix receiver looks, fixes #195, thanks to MT-Modder for reporting b3aa8f5 http://git.io/CmFVZw (2014-12-06T17:24:34+01:00)
16:42 freelike1nu :o
16:42 PenguinDad o:
17:05 kaeza ö
17:06 Krock http://games.usvsth3m.com/naughty/
17:06 Krock o
17:06 Krock ¨
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17:21 kaeza "The results are in! We reckon you're 100% nice You're Santa's special angel!" http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icon​s/original/000/005/882/I_lied.jpg
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18:05 hoodedice kaeza: forum PM
18:10 hoodedice chat == dead today
18:12 PenguinDad The chat must survive under any circumstances!
18:12 sfan5 hoodedice: you == not online in tox
18:12 hoodedice I will not log on tox unless needed
18:12 hoodedice takes too much bandwdth, and my wifi card already sucks
18:12 PilzAdam sfan5, you can't hide!
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18:12 PilzAdam go to #-dev!
18:13 PilzAdam :-p
18:13 sfan5 PilzAdam: no
18:13 hoodedice I'll go instead
18:13 PilzAdam hoodedice, but you are useless to me...
18:13 hoodedice but but
18:14 hoodedice I know java!
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18:14 hoodedice one year at a well-known college for CIS in north-east Ohio and what do I learn?
18:14 hoodedice JAVA
18:14 hoodedice fucking hell
18:14 n4x why aren't you learning Haskell
18:14 n4x or Racket
18:15 hoodedice uncle graduated 10 so years ago, he learnt C++ in the very first semester
18:15 n4x C++ isn't good either
18:15 hoodedice At least I can contribute to core
18:15 hoodedice and why not?
18:15 PilzAdam if you still rant about what language you learn then you didn't learn anything at your college
18:15 hoodedice PA
18:15 n4x learn C++ yourself
18:16 hoodedice two semesters
18:16 hoodedice and
18:16 hoodedice all I know is
18:16 hoodedice making
18:16 hoodedice constructors.
18:16 PilzAdam thats your fault
18:16 hoodedice they didn't teach me anything relevant
18:16 hoodedice well
18:16 n4x well PilzAdam, if you saw my programming classes you would take those words out
18:17 n4x it was a month for "learning how to use if"
18:17 PilzAdam you can't learn programming by listening to people anyway
18:17 hoodedice n4x, same here
18:17 hoodedice except two semesters of data types
18:17 hoodedice same shit
18:17 n4x if the teacher doesn't make the class "funny" or makes you "like' programming, it isn't a good class
18:18 hoodedice PilzAdam: Not everyone is PilzAdam.
18:18 PilzAdam come to a german university, they teach Java in 3 months here
18:19 PilzAdam and c++ in the second semester
18:19 n4x I self taught myself to program, and I think it was easier for me to read a book in a language I didn't know when I was 11 than listening to the teacher now
18:19 hoodedice MIT teaches java in four weeks
18:19 hoodedice that's where I learnt java from
18:19 hoodedice the online MIT OC thing
18:19 hoodedice the professor was at best, incompetent
18:19 n4x I am "learning" C++ at uni
18:20 hoodedice and the course was shit because I didn't learn anything new
18:20 hoodedice I had C next semester, but they changed it to another semester of java
18:20 n4x I used my C skills and passed the final exam without studying, because we didn't see anything that is actually C++
18:21 hoodedice but the professor, as far as I've heard can actually teach, and it is finally not about "Different ways to declare int x =0;"
18:21 hoodedice I'm going to the electrical engineering student group to learn C
18:21 n4x I am learning Haskell on my own and learning F# for working with it :p
18:21 hoodedice and a senior student taught me abstract and interface classes
18:22 n4x they aren't too abstract though
18:22 n4x higher-kinded polymorphism is a feature that mainstream languages lack and would be beautiful if they had
18:25 hoodedice http://www.ratemyprofessors.c​om/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=789405
18:25 hoodedice Look at the reviews for CIS 260
18:26 hoodedice first two
18:27 * Calinou tries to self-teach themselves to program
18:27 Calinou a dozen of times or so
18:27 Calinou it never worked 8)
18:27 n4x for what it is worth; an online course I took which was really good, https://www.coursera.org/course/proglang
18:27 Calinou so better program by changing variables and (un)commenting lines, it got me far
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18:28 hoodedice n4x, atm, the only way I see for me going forward is to indeed teach myself all that I need to know
18:28 hoodedice here's something people said about my semester 1 professor: "I could probably have a better chance learning programming from the Amish"
18:29 hoodedice After two semesters of messing around, uninterested, I am sure I will end up learning all of programming myself
18:29 hoodedice !whois hoodedice
18:29 hoodedice oh fuck
18:30 n4x hoodedice!
18:30 n4x learn Haskell
18:30 hoodedice !g haskell
18:30 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://www.haskell.org/
18:30 n4x https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell
18:31 hoodedice I'm learning lua on the side actually right now, but I'll look into this one too
18:33 hoodedice n4x, this looks too easy
18:33 n4x haskell?
18:34 n4x well, it is good if you find it easy :P
18:34 hoodedice I am going through the thing on the official website
18:35 n4x hoodedice: show . map
18:35 n4x hoodedice: how many params does this take (\f g -> show . map f . foldr g [])
18:35 hoodedice sort "hooded" is so much better than arrays.sort()
18:35 hoodedice hold your horses
18:36 hoodedice I ain't got there yet
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18:40 hoodedice Did you mean: hooded?
18:40 exio4 hoodedice, what have you seen in abstract algebra btw
18:40 hoodedice what is abstract algebra?
18:40 exio4 semigroups, monoids, groups, abelian groups, rings
18:41 hmmmm i love algebra
18:41 exio4 is that sarcasm or.. ? :P
18:41 hoodedice no really
18:41 hmmmm i never got too far into the subject though, i stopped before i got to modules
18:41 hoodedice all of algebra I learnt was in middle school
18:41 hoodedice linear, polynomial
18:41 hoodedice calculus in high school and college till now
18:42 exio4 I started "learning" the beautiful part of algebra when I started learning Haskell
18:42 hmmmm hehe, we ended our second semester of algebra by proving the unsolvability of the quintic
18:42 hmmmm and that you couldn't square a circle
18:42 hoodedice I have this thing called "discrete math" or something next semester
18:42 hmmmm incredibly elegant and simple proofs with algebra
18:42 Calinou third semester: “mapgen v5”
18:43 hoodedice what exactly do you mean by "square a circle"?
18:43 hmmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle
18:44 hmmmm particularily, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sq​uaring_the_circle#Impossibility  read that
18:45 hoodedice I understand -part of it
18:45 hmmmm i really need to take an algebra refresher
18:45 hmmmm so much of this stuff is rusty
18:46 hmmmm it's funny, 2 years ago i would've been able to tell you off the top of my head the 9 conditions of a ring
18:47 exio4 9 conditions? * forms a monoid, distributivity, + forms an abelian group
18:47 exio4 it is easier to remember it that way
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18:47 exio4 and because abelian group = commutative group, and group = monoid + invertibility(sp?) :D
18:48 hoodedice ... I remember the Alternating Seiries test, and I think that is the most advanced math thing I know
18:48 exio4 most of what I know isn't really in order to be honest, I try to learn as I find "shiny words" around :P
18:49 exio4 dammit
18:49 exio4 why did n4x die
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18:53 hoodedice "Remove trailing whitespace" must be the best commit ever
18:54 exio4 ehm, sure :P
18:54 * sfan5 meows at exio4
18:54 * exio4 slaps sfan5
18:54 sfan5 :(
18:56 hoodedice I wonder where kaeza is...
18:57 exio4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Module_%28mathematics%29
18:57 exio4 modules are kinda nice
19:02 hoodedice bbl
19:02 hoodedice !tell kaeza check forum PM this is very important
19:02 MinetestBot hoodedice: yeah, yeah
19:02 hoodedice !tell MinetestBot shut up
19:02 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know?
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19:22 kaeza !tell hoodedice asdf
19:22 MinetestBot kaeza: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around
19:24 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
19:25 * kaeza meows back at sfan5
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19:38 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Set param2 to 1 if player places leaves 9ec33f3 http://git.io/YVIMDg (2014-12-06T20:36:20+01:00)
19:38 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Move leafdecay doc to game_api.txt 2c2edfa http://git.io/Xw1gUQ (2014-12-06T20:36:20+01:00)
19:38 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Dont dry out soil if unloaded blocks are nearby 22dd46d http://git.io/cGTjFQ (2014-12-06T11:54:56+01:00)
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19:58 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Add a minetest.conf.example with all available settings 954d64a http://git.io/ao95bA (2014-12-06T20:56:52+01:00)
19:58 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Move doc for dyes to game_api.txt ef0eb4d http://git.io/DQhVKw (2014-12-06T20:54:53+01:00)
19:58 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix visibility of global/local dye tables 11a7b88 http://git.io/yy-euw (2014-12-06T20:54:02+01:00)
20:00 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Remove remains of finite liquids from bucket mod 957f945 http://git.io/FxScXA (2014-12-06T20:58:03+01:00)
20:00 MinetestBot [git] PilzAdam -> minetest/minetest_game: Remove remains of weather 4ec4672 http://git.io/QHwWEg (2014-12-06T20:58:03+01:00)
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21:43 rubberduck1 i can't craft castle sandstone brick stuff anymore on vanessaEs survival server, because it wants default:sandstone_brick, and the game uses default:sandstonebrick instead
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21:46 PilzAdam rubberduck1, minetest_game use default:sandstonebrick since at least May 18, 2013
21:46 PilzAdam probably even longer
21:48 rbduck but then the castle-mod has to be updated, because it uses sandstone_brick for recipes
21:48 PilzAdam yeah, probably a type in this mod
21:48 PilzAdam *typo
21:49 rbduck i think you have to contact vanessaE, because it is the mod in her dreambuilder game
21:50 PenguinDad typoing typo what a coincidence :D
21:50 exio4 http://dpaste.com/20NX1P3
21:51 rbduck hehe
21:52 rbduck a intentionally >tipo< here xD
21:53 PilzAdam PenguinDad, coincidence? I typed 3 letter correctly; what has 3 points? a triangle...
21:53 PenguinDad Illuminati confirmed
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22:32 * kaeza pets Jordach
22:32 Jordach nya
22:35 Jordach while i'm at it, i'm begging to completely remove MTG's artwork influence on BFD
22:35 Jordach beggining*
22:35 Jordach engrish
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22:39 kaeza you beggar!
22:39 Jordach kaeza, i'm working through all the crap textures that MTG has acquired over time
22:39 kaeza define "crap"
22:39 Jordach namely tools
22:40 kaeza maybe
22:40 Jordach ice, stone, sandstone, sandstone brick
22:40 Jordach cobblestone
22:40 Jordach not round enough
22:41 kaeza the only gripe I have with MTG textures is that the torches and jungle trees are way too realistic :<
22:42 kaeza don't fit well with the (semi) cartoonish feel
22:42 Jordach kaeza, i find them repetetive
22:46 PenguinDad randomized textures hurt my eyes ;_;
22:46 Jordach PenguinDad, IRL grass doesn't tile
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22:47 Jordach fail right there folks
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23:35 * Jordach notices his second monitor staying black until the electronics warm up
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23:41 JohnnyComeL8ly I have a Q for U!
23:41 JohnnyComeL8ly What does it mean when this is in the terminal? Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
23:42 Jordach the game shit itself for no reason
23:43 JohnnyComeL8ly I launched the game, got to the menu and proceeded to login to Minerealms Classic (I got the same message for a local game).
23:44 JohnnyComeL8ly Is there a place to look for a "core dump?
23:45 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm running LXLE, a flavor of Lubuntu.
23:46 JohnnyComeL8ly I disabled shaders... same thing.
23:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Here is a paste. http://pastie.org/9765174
23:51 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, come on, this can't be something over nothing... can
23:51 JohnnyComeL8ly you just give me a clue as to what I should look for?
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23:53 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm going to try a recover; it might help, it might not. I have two brothers who I catch messing around on here all the time, trying to turn Minetest on.

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