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03:16 btoothpick Greets
03:20 marktraceur Salut, btoothpick
03:24 exio4 <3 UPS
03:24 exio4 saved me from three "micro" powercuts
03:26 exio4 (the battery didn't even have time to go down to 98%, the lcd screen went to 99% (because it doesn't round, but floors) :P)
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04:49 tats hi. kind of new to minetest, great game! i'm trying to install some mods but having trouble with the animals modpack. running ubuntu 14.04. here's the game version info: http://pastebin.com/dJ5T0NkR
04:50 tats i get errors such as ERROR[main]: mod "mob_slime" has unsatisfied dependencies: "mobf"
05:02 OldCoder Try kpgmobs instead for now
05:02 OldCoder Sapier is going to make major changes to Animals
05:03 OldCoder tats, ^
05:04 tats OldCoder, thanks
05:04 tats OldCoder, any other suggestions to make the game more fun in survival mode? i just got simplemobs installed for now
05:06 OldCoder tats sure!
05:06 OldCoder I am leaving on an errand, but I'll pause here for a moment. Is this for home use or a server?
05:07 OldCoder tats, I guess you're away. You could try VanessaE Dreambuilder _game. If she has large windmills in it, delete that folder; too heavy. Small windmills are O.K.
05:07 OldCoder And if you answer in the next minute, I'll list some favorite mods of my own
05:08 tats OldCoder, home (for now)
05:08 OldCoder All right, first suggestion is try the Dreambuilder _game. But remove large windmills.
05:08 OldCoder I will now list a few favorite mods. Wait.
05:09 OldCoder Technic and Mesecons - Avoid these for now except in Dreambuilder. Quite heavy.
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05:09 OldCoder For December, the Christmas, Christmas Craft, and Xmas mods may be fun
05:10 OldCoder Dogblocks are fun at first but all the barking gets annoying *woof woof*
05:10 tats quick n00b question: is Dreambuilder a gameserver or a mod?
05:10 OldCoder VanessaE HDX texture pack is nice but don't go above 32px size until you get a feeling for px sizes
05:10 OldCoder It is neither
05:10 OldCoder It is a collection of mods
05:11 OldCoder Known as a _game
05:11 tats i see
05:11 OldCoder That work together
05:11 tats i thought that would be a modpack (like animals_modpack)
05:11 OldCoder kpgmobs is good. You can disable monsters using a configuration file setting
05:11 tats so a _game is something else
05:11 OldCoder It is a modpack of modpacks
05:11 OldCoder A collection of 80 mods in her case
05:11 tats wow
05:11 OldCoder OldCoder_game is 120 mods :D
05:11 OldCoder Her set is tiny!
05:11 OldCoder Wait
05:12 OldCoder Spidermob is interesting; that is a nice big spider
05:12 OldCoder Sea modpack is still buggy but worth a try
05:12 OldCoder Puts stuff underwater ^
05:12 OldCoder irc and irc_command mods can be difficult to set up but they are a must for servers
05:13 OldCoder They let you keep an eye on your worlds from right here in IRC
05:13 OldCoder VanessaE Homedecor and Plantlife modpacks are a must
05:13 OldCoder But you really don't need everything in Plantlife
05:13 OldCoder You can try using just the plants you are interested in
05:13 OldCoder I am now testing Farming Plus Plus
05:14 OldCoder You can use Farming and Farming Plus together or
05:14 tats i tried joining a server yesterday but it was taking forever, i abandoned. i guess some of them are too heavy.
05:14 OldCoder Farming and Farming Plus Plus
05:14 OldCoder You must use a Curl Client
05:14 OldCoder I think most never clients have Curl
05:14 OldCoder And the server must have a Curl Media Server
05:14 OldCoder Or the thing will be too slow
05:14 OldCoder More another time on this subject
05:14 OldCoder most newer clients *
05:14 OldCoder Wait
05:15 OldCoder Caverealms mod puts large interesting caves underground, but disable Fortresses
05:15 OldCoder it causes crashes
05:15 OldCoder Glow mod puts bioluminescent stuff in caves
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05:15 tats is there a central repository for all these mods? they seem to often just be zipped files in the forum.
05:15 OldCoder Sokomine is working on the Cottages mod (or modpack); medieval style buildings
05:15 OldCoder I used to have a central one
05:16 OldCoder May rebuild it
05:16 OldCoder Many are scattered on sites that die
05:16 OldCoder I
05:16 OldCoder I'd like to mirror them
05:16 OldCoder For a nice big collection get VanessaE Dreambuilder
05:16 tats yes, i'll do that
05:16 OldCoder The OldCoder _game will also be available once stable
05:16 OldCoder Moment
05:16 OldCoder Avoid Carts, they are buggy
05:16 OldCoder Boats are said to be O.K.
05:17 OldCoder The Food Modpack goes well with Farming+ or Farming++
05:17 OldCoder Chocolate Cake!
05:17 OldCoder I have a number of obsolete mods I am patching to work; I will make those public eventually
05:18 tats thanks OldCoder, much appreciated
05:18 OldCoder There are many other mods but perhaps this is a start
05:18 OldCoder Try Dreambuilder first but delete the large windmills folder if present
05:18 tats yeah! i'll try to install Dreambuilder
05:18 OldCoder Oh...
05:18 OldCoder News mod adds a popup screen that displays a news page for your players
05:19 OldCoder xban2 is important for servers
05:19 OldCoder Don't forget that one
05:19 OldCoder travelnet for large worlds is good\
05:19 OldCoder Many more but this is a start
05:19 OldCoder
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06:26 Zeno` Calinou, that shading issue on the forums... I'm bisecting it now (just taking a while)
06:26 Calinou OK
06:26 Zeno` NO WORRIES
06:27 Zeno` Why are we shouting? lol
06:27 Zeno` It's not as if it's noisy in here heheh
06:27 Calinou OK, then I can just delete my post since it's a known bug :P
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06:28 * Calinou is uploading a video
06:32 Zeno` Well, it's not really known
06:33 Zeno` I was going to make a bug report but I've been bisecting instead. Leave yours please?
06:34 Calinou what am I going to write in it?
06:34 Calinou I haven't even experienced this bug
06:36 Zeno` really?
06:36 Zeno` weird. Anyway I think I've found the issue
06:38 Zeno` well, the commit that caused it anyway
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08:32 Calinou chess anyone? http://lichess.org/zvwhpRwG
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08:38 Krock Hello world.
08:38 Krock Amazing. the /smsg command actually works
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08:40 Calinou you mean /amsg?
08:40 Calinou even celeron55 told me it was terrible!
08:41 Krock Calinou, /smsg sends a message to all servers and all rooms
08:41 Krock /amsg works for one server
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09:32 Krock !tell RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-te​chnic/unified_inventory/issues
09:32 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around
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14:14 someguy_irc !tell Jeija isn't this a bit outdated? o.o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmeQj6iW5k
14:14 MinetestBot someguy_irc: yeah, yeah
14:14 someguy_irc ok ok .
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14:44 galundrux Do you guys know about Mangler? I was thinking about if there was a way to make a gui for it inside minetest, then I could run a ventrilio server and it would be nice to have a gui in minetest to connect to it. Think anyone would be interested if I tried to make something like that?
14:50 galundrux Or maybe something like mumble would be better, since it's compatiblw with all operating systems and they have a better licence. What I'm asking is if it's hard to make guis that control third party apps in minetest?
14:57 Zeno` Someone was working on mumble I think
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15:00 Megaf Hi all
15:06 galundrux Yeah, I found some old treads about mumble, but nothing like that in them. I was thinking about being able to open a gui in minetest, like the server screen at launch, and conect to the channel you wanted to talk in from inside the game. Like a remote control for the mumble client, I'm reading the dev wiki now
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15:21 galundrux Looks like lua has something called os.execute that calls external commands so it should at least be possible, I think I might have to try messing around with this :)
15:21 TheCephalopod You can shut down your PC with that.
15:22 Jordach "I Can Has Nukes? \n Drop a Nuke on another Civ." - good times
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15:25 kaeza greetings
15:25 Zeno` no, no... it should not be done it Lua (IMO)
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15:40 kaeza indeed. don't use hacks like `os.execute` in the engine if you can avoid it; use a proper function from C++, like `execv*`/`popen`, or whatever the kids use these days
15:40 kaeza mention systemd and you are automatically dead, by the way
15:41 kaeza just in case :P
15:41 Zeno` I don't mind systemd
15:41 * Zeno` hides
15:44 brothersome I have a problem with minetest on m.ayntest.net, my account does not go further than the first screen with clouds, please help
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15:45 PenguinDad Woohoo I'm dead!
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15:48 Jordach brothersome, just wait
15:48 Jordach it's probably loading media
15:49 brothersome Jordach, when I login with brothersome2 it works, brothersome account not - looks strange to me
15:51 Jordach systemd sucks
15:53 Jordach minetest is like init.d
15:53 Jordach small, tiny, works
15:54 Jordach freeminer is like systemd
15:54 Jordach slow, fat, doesn't work due to distro developer fighting
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16:02 Out`Of`Control Jordach:  so you are systemd hater? :D
16:03 Jordach ya
16:03 Jordach we don't need no fucking monoliths
16:04 Out`Of`Control did you hear about devuan?
16:04 Jordach nope
16:04 Out`Of`Control http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTg1MDQ
16:04 Jordach staying out of a fight thats like a titanic shitstorm comparable to gamergate
16:09 sfan5 wat
16:09 sfan5 Jordach: you don't even use linux
16:09 Out`Of`Control loool
16:10 kaeza because systemd!
16:10 Out`Of`Control brothersome:  you there?
16:10 * kaeza runs
16:10 * kaeza pets sfan5
16:10 sfan5 and I'm tempted to [citation needed] for '<Jordach> slow, fat, doesn't work due to distro developer fighting' but that will only result in a fight
16:10 * sfan5 runs after kaeza
16:11 brothersome Yes Out Of Control
16:11 Out`Of`Control you still can't connect?
16:11 * PenguinDad follows sfan5
16:11 * sfan5 catches kaeza and cuddles
16:12 Krock Since when is nodeupdate(pos) no longer working?
16:12 brothersome Only with another account
16:12 kaeza Krock, define "not working"
16:12 brothersome VERBOSE[ConnectionSend]
16:12 Out`Of`Control brothersome:  did you do what Evil told you?
16:12 Krock kaeza, the updated node does not fall down. it's defined as falling_node
16:13 brothersome Yes Out of Control, that does not work - whole minetest does not start or is very slow loading the textures
16:14 Out`Of`Control brothersome:  yeah on first start it will take a while
16:14 brothersome Too long, I think there is something on the server. Why can I login with brothersome2
16:15 kaeza Krock, sand works for me
16:15 brothersome Today I have logged in with brothersome
16:15 Krock kaeza, how about snow?
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16:16 kaeza the block? it doesn't fall
16:16 Krock kaeza, the thing I try is to 'replace' flowing water with snow. The snow should fall through the water until there's a solid node
16:16 brothersome I shall try rename .minetest again
16:17 kaeza Krock, ah, I see now
16:18 kaeza Krock, looks like a bug in the "falling snow entity"
16:19 kaeza it takes liquids as solid
16:20 Krock kaeza, seems like builtin:item needs a ptach?
16:21 kaeza Krock, but sand works correctly in your case...
16:21 Krock hmm
16:23 Krock maybe it's the float=1 group which does this
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16:24 kaeza yep, looks like it
16:24 Krock *removes*
16:24 kaeza not sure if it's intentional
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16:27 Krock purrfect. problem solved
16:29 * PenguinDad meows at Krock
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16:35 MinetestBot [git] Amaz1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Added the new door textures 8007c14 http://git.io/7Dbfqw (2014-11-30T17:34:35+01:00)
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16:36 mitrom Good Mirnong
16:41 Krock good evening, mitrom
16:41 mitrom evennning
16:42 Calinou hi
16:43 mitrom ind33d i
16:43 mitrom Indeed*
16:44 mitrom Sorry habits
16:44 kaeza moog gornind
16:45 Krock kaeza, pls2topiclock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=4&amp;t=10657&amp;p=163193#p163193
16:46 Calinou lock? more like delete…
16:47 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: README.txt: pinetreetop > pinetree_top 1a5725f http://git.io/JyChAg (2014-11-30T17:45:42+01:00)
16:47 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Pine tree, pine needles, pine sapling and pinewood nodes, including textures by Splizard and Cisoun 215c0c1 http://git.io/2MqAPA (2014-11-30T17:45:42+01:00)
16:47 Krock Calinou, that user will re-poen it when he can't find it anymore
16:47 Calinou I'll PM them
16:47 Krock Don't forget to remove the download links in the post.
16:48 Krock "You are not authorised to read this forum."
16:48 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Pine tree, pine needles, pine sapling and pinewood nodes, including textures by Splizard and Cisoun 6fb072e http://git.io/mguQ7w (2014-11-30T17:47:02+01:00)
16:48 Krock Irony. I can visit the texture packs forum :3
16:48 Jordach dat double commit
16:49 Calinou super secret forum
16:49 Krock Calinou, the rest-in-pies-topics forum?
16:49 Calinou maybe, maybe not
16:49 sfan5 Jordach: squashes it before anyone (except the bot) noticed
16:49 Krock yes. who knows? :3
16:50 PenguinDad rip in peace MC texture pack
16:50 mitrom indeed.
16:50 CaveJohnson hi Calinou :)
16:50 mitrom p good pack imo
16:50 mitrom but its illegal
16:50 Krock "rest in peace in peace"
16:50 mitrom ripip
16:50 Krock ^ PenguinDad
16:50 Calinou hi CaveJohnson
16:50 Calinou I made lots of pull requests for the engine and game today :P
16:50 CaveJohnson you alright? :)
16:50 Calinou like, 5 or 6
16:50 CaveJohnson nice :D
16:50 * Krock puts a stone monster into CaveJohnson
16:50 CaveJohnson :O
16:50 * CaveJohnson puts a lemon monster on Krock
16:51 Krock that doesn't work.
16:51 Krock You are a cave. there it works
16:51 PenguinDad Krock: Make CaveJohnson take the lemons back!
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16:51 Calinou people do react quite negatively to them as usual
16:51 * Krock throws the lemon monster towards CaveJohnson
16:51 Calinou sometimes they just don't understand :(
16:52 Krock Calinou, very useful. https://github.com/Calinou/minetest/commit​/2728400dfb70c5db2666eed3f178bbc0124fc0be#​diff-8d585596eb0f55074bb385d0a609f570R137
16:54 PenguinDad also https://github.com/Calinou/minetest/commit​/2728400dfb70c5db2666eed3f178bbc0124fc0be#​diff-8d585596eb0f55074bb385d0a609f570R153
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16:54 Calinou this one is approved by RBA
16:54 Calinou I got around to understanding that code!
16:56 CaveJohnson huh
16:56 CaveJohnson i think i found a journalctl bug
16:56 CaveJohnson Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
16:56 CaveJohnson > no lines ellipsized
16:57 CaveJohnson yeah wc -c on them both returns the same amount
16:57 CaveJohnson i found a boog
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17:02 MinetestBot [git] CraigyDavi -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix some undeclared global variables 128f0ad http://git.io/tu4ecg (2014-11-30T18:02:33+01:00)
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17:37 Calinou making a build script
17:48 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317753/
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17:49 Calinou brought a working build down to 11 MB!
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18:29 MinetestBot [git] Sapier at GMX dot net -> minetest/minetest: Make hud use fontengine too 39162de http://git.io/fY39nw (2014-11-30T18:06:54+01:00)
18:29 MinetestBot [git] zefram@fysh.org -> minetest/minetest: Scale form elements consistently d1d6a97 http://git.io/f6GjwQ (2014-11-30T17:50:09+01:00)
18:29 MinetestBot [git] Sapier at GMX dot net -> minetest/minetest: Implement proper font handling dceb9f7 http://git.io/VRb_IQ (2014-11-30T17:50:09+01:00)
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19:06 exio4 Calinou, is nerfs == nerves?
19:07 Calinou I use “nerfs”
19:08 exio4 ahm?
19:09 Calinou I say “nerfs”
19:09 exio4 oh
19:12 marktraceur ...there's no such thing
19:12 shadowzone XD
19:13 jentron I just received a request for "hidden" doors. Is there a mintest mod for that?
19:13 Calinou you could make one
19:13 Calinou would be like doors, but with an invisible texture
19:13 Calinou very easy to make
19:13 Calinou if you want blocks you can go through (but look similar to normal ones), use More Blocks which provides Trap Stone and Trap Glass
19:14 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=509
19:15 jentron Hmm, I though I have MoreBlocks... Let me check
19:17 Calinou moreblocks:trap_stone
19:17 Calinou moreblocks:trap_glass
19:17 Calinou (there is a slight hint about them being traps)
19:18 marktraceur #spoilers
19:19 shadowzone they're somewhat invisable?
19:19 exio4 nice
19:19 exio4 nouveau + last minetest at max settings = 4FPS
19:20 exio4 (fHD)
19:21 Calinou max settings are slow
19:21 exio4 this is nouveau
19:21 exio4 and GT610
19:22 exio4 Calinou, have you seen the case I bought? :3
19:22 Calinou no
19:22 Calinou yeah, GT 610 too
19:22 exio4 http://www.thermaltake.com/pro​ducts-model.aspx?id=C_00001951
19:27 jentron Is there a command like /giveme moreblocks:trap_stone?
19:27 Calinou lol, Thermaltake
19:27 Calinou jentron, yes
19:27 jentron Is that the way it goes?
19:27 Calinou yes, /giveme gives items to you
19:27 Calinou /giveme stone -1
19:27 Calinou gives you a large stack of stone
19:28 Calinou (-1 = 65535)
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19:29 jentron thanks. :)
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19:37 Megaf Hi all
19:37 Megaf is there any documentation anywhere about the cracky, flashy amd other tools params?
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19:43 Krock Megaf, it's simple. they just reprsent the [group]=seconds
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19:47 Megaf Krock: Thanks
19:48 Megaf Krock: and any idea where I can find info on how to write a mapgen? Or a template?
19:48 Krock Megaf, just look up the work of the modders
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19:57 Megaf Im creating a game from almost scratch
19:59 jin_xi wub wub wub
19:59 john_minetest dö dö dö dö dö dö dö dö dö!
19:59 Megaf da da da
20:00 Megaf That German song
20:00 gravgun Ook?
20:00 * gravgun writes Brainf*ck in his brain, then translates to Ook
20:02 Megaf da da da
20:02 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5T8QnF24tI
20:02 Megaf !title
20:02 MinetestBot Megaf: &#39;Da da da&#39; Pepsi Ad: Bavaria and football - YouTube
20:02 john_minetest Megaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr15eJAGkiM
20:02 john_minetest !title
20:02 MinetestBot john_minetest: DUBSTEP INTRO - WUB WUB WUB WUB DÖ DÖ DÖ DÖ! - YouTube
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20:43 Megaf OldCoder: Are you there?
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20:55 Megaf can anyone help me with this code? https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/​minetest_game/master/mods/sethome/init.lua
20:55 Megaf I'd like to remove the part where it requires a priv
20:58 Megaf ok, easy enough
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21:08 OldCoder Megaf, yes
21:09 Megaf OldCoder: DMan is online now, would you like me to tell him to join openmine?
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21:19 jin_xi hm, was there some change with simple decorations? mine dont show up anymore
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21:40 OldCoder Megaf, I have talked a bit with him. Thank you for the remarks. I do not believe that he is real.
21:40 OldCoder He claims to have been in a crippling concussion fog for months
21:40 OldCoder Despite showing no signs of this. And during this foggy concussion period...
21:40 OldCoder He has been busy entering the Air Force
21:40 OldCoder Yeah, right :P
21:41 * OldCoder has gotten a little tired of this sort of thing after years of it
21:41 OldCoder
21:41 Megaf OldCoder: so you think he is an impostor?
21:41 OldCoder Concussions don't generally work like that
21:42 OldCoder Megaf, if you happen to see him in the future, tell him I had my own skull cracked...
21:42 OldCoder and suffered a subdural hematoma
21:42 OldCoder And that he should drop the bullsh*t
21:42 Megaf lol
21:42 OldCoder
21:43 * shadowzone cd minetest/Build and git pulls and compiles
21:43 OldCoder Well, we know that he is not Trustable :-)
21:43 OldCoder ^ joke
21:43 shadowzone I know a joke when I see one and that was a Joke
21:43 * OldCoder at humor does poke
21:44 OldCoder Either the original DMan was a prankster or this person was not the same one
21:44 OldCoder Whatever
21:44 OldCoder
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22:02 JPdelatorre is someone around?
22:02 JPdelatorre I have a question regarding promix gardening
22:03 kaeza "don't ask to ask, just ask"
22:04 JPdelatorre :P
22:04 JPdelatorre ok, sorry
22:04 JPdelatorre well, the thing is seeds are jumping back to my hand
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22:05 JPdelatorre I have the promix, water just bellow and grow lamps about 3 blocks away
22:05 JPdelatorre but the seeds won't stay in the ground
22:07 kaeza I think the lamps must be >= 4 blocks over the promix to work, but not sure
22:08 JPdelatorre probably
22:08 JPdelatorre :/
22:10 JPdelatorre didn't work
22:11 JPdelatorre but I can put the seeds anywhere else
22:11 JPdelatorre they just hate promix
22:13 galundrux what folder is map.sqlite supposed to be stored in?
22:14 shadowzone the world file
22:15 galundrux yeah, so it's in the worlds/worldname/ folder or the worlds/worldname/map/ folder?
22:16 shadowzone what OS?
22:16 galundrux linux, debian
22:16 shadowzone okay
22:17 shadowzone for me it is located in /home/../.minetest/worlds/<worldname>
22:19 shadowzone And if it's not there
22:19 shadowzone try
22:19 kaeza JPdelatorre, where did you get the hydro mod?
22:20 galundrux okay, thanks
22:20 JPdelatorre I'm playing in a server that's not mine
22:21 kaeza ah
22:21 JPdelatorre and I've seen the promix work elsewhere
22:22 kaeza this setup seems to work: https://mediacru.sh/4HzqDAqLRQ1c
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22:22 JPdelatorre thanks a bunch, I'll take a look
22:22 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix segfault at exit caused by non grabbed font 16781da http://git.io/ZIarEA (2014-11-30T23:21:14+01:00)
22:28 kaeza the code for the hydro mod makes me want to cry ;_;
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22:40 JPdelatorre kaeza it is still not working, I'll try again tomorrow and quit after that, if it doesn't work.
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22:40 JPdelatorre thank anyway, was very kind of you :)
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