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00:21 harrison i the harrison have returned
00:21 harrison i am back
00:21 harrison glossy and fettled out
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01:06 john_cephalopoda harrison: So you have come back, to trace all our rays back to the deepest depths of our octrees.
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02:35 mpa1212 Sokomine:  (In mg_villages) Is there some variable that gets set/function that gets called only once on the initial generation of each building? Everything I've tried gets called multiple times
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03:40 crazyR anyone able to make any sense of this error: https://gist.github.com/cra​zyR14/a8b99c21fea0dbc27b94
03:42 Sokomine mpa1212: that's a bit difficult. generation of buildings can be called multiple times - that is due to the demands of mapgen. are you trying to add mobs?
03:44 crazyR nope. it worked fine before restarting the server. after restart with no changes, thats the error i get
03:44 Sokomine mpa1212: i'm going to add a mob spawner soon. but even that generator might be placed more than once. you could set a variable in the data structure
03:44 crazyR oh sorry wasnt for me lol
03:44 Sokomine :-)
03:47 kaeza crazyR, "22:38:51: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found!"
03:47 kaeza http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting#.E2.80.9CServerEnvironment::loadMeta​.28.29:_EnvArgsEnd_not_found.E2.80.9D
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03:49 crazyR thanks, i need sleep for some reason i was looking in the map meta and seeing nothing wrong lol. il fix the envmeta now lol
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04:02 crazyR kaeza if i wanted to make a craftitem disapear upon dropping via the ondrop action how would i do it?
04:03 crazyR would removing node at the craftitem pos do it?
04:09 crazyR gues it does work :D
04:09 mpa1212 Sokomine: Yeah, adding npc's with buliding gen. https://github.com/Bremaweb/adventure​test/blob/master/mods/mg/villages.lua line 404 doesn't work with your version.
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04:20 Sokomine mpa1212: that would be very nice. i hope there'll be mobs in them once
04:20 Sokomine the mob spawner is another point that ought to be added...
04:21 Sokomine mpa1212: line 404 in villages.lua is commented out and obsolete
04:22 mpa1212 The one I linked is from a different fork, not mg_villages
04:23 Sokomine oh. you ought to use mg_villages eventually. it contains many bugfixes and has quite some capabilities
04:24 Sokomine there are of course still errors
04:24 Sokomine your request for a function that's called once is reasonable...
04:34 mpa1212 Sokomine: I am currently using mg_villages, however just pointing out that they have a version that allows one to generate npcs once, although it is a bit hackish. mg_villages is great :D
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04:54 Sokomine mpa1212: the way i'm most likely going to take is to change the data stored in  mg_villages.all_villages[ village_id ].to_add_data.bpos[ building_id ] and set a variable to 1 after whatever function has to be called once has done its work
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04:56 Sokomine adding additional table entries there is possible. that data structure is saved and restored for each map. blocks, on the other hand, may be placed up to 4 times
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06:17 AgentFire Heya, what's the tp command?
06:18 AgentFire Like, for an admin
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06:23 shadowzone Which one?
06:23 shadowzone cause there are a few
06:23 shadowzone /teleport <playername> /teleport <playername> <playername>
06:24 AgentFire Okay, thank you
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07:44 BFett OldCoder, are you awake?
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07:51 kaeza crazyR, can't parse
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08:00 someguy_irc um chrome is dead now.
08:00 someguy_irc phone google to make a grave.
08:01 someguy_irc new update broke it. load resource: net::ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED.
08:01 someguy_irc >_>
08:01 someguy_irc on facebook gmail etc.
08:01 someguy_irc help ._.
08:01 exio4 firefox to the rescue
08:02 someguy_irc Yep
08:02 someguy_irc I have it open
08:03 someguy_irc worked.
08:03 someguy_irc and I fixed it.
08:03 someguy_irc Idiot google bug :)
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08:18 Megaf_ Bom dia
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08:22 Megaf Morning Calinou
08:22 Calinou hi
08:22 Megaf Buenos dias kaeza
08:26 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.​php?110314-Fedora-21-Release-Candidate-1-A​waits-Your-Testing&amp;p=456047#post456047
08:26 Calinou Red Hat employees are (almost) always good at replying to posts on Phoronix
08:27 * Megaf looks
08:28 * Megaf laughs
08:28 Megaf lmao
08:28 Megaf I was a Fedora user myself, I used Fedora Core 4
08:28 Megaf and then later some other versions of Fedora, it was cool and stable, but it had almost no available packages on their repos
08:29 Calinou they have around 18,000 packages by now I think
08:29 Megaf And I din't want to rely on third party repos
08:29 Calinou Ubuntu has 46,972
08:29 Calinou Debian should have about 42,000
08:29 Megaf Debian has a billion
08:29 Calinou you can use copr
08:30 Calinou it's third-party, but supplied by Fedora
08:30 Calinou also the Fedora Apps thing
08:30 Calinou (which is how you can get Minetest using packages)
08:30 Megaf I'm happy with Debian
08:31 Megaf Debian has finally reached a point where I can use it as a Desktop OS
08:32 Calinou Debian Testing has some interesting points for desktops
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08:32 Calinou (VanessaE used Debian Sid for a small while on a desktop.)
08:32 exio4 I have been using Debian Sid for like, two years
08:32 john_minetest hello everypony
08:33 exio4 oh look, it is a john_minetest
08:34 Calinou hi john_minetest
08:35 john_minetest Debian is pretty cool for servers.
08:35 john_minetest If I had a dedicated server, I'd likely choose debian for it.
08:35 Calinou another good thing of Debian is that it's universal
08:35 Calinou can use on desktop, server, x86, ARM, exotic arches
08:36 Megaf Calinou: I'm using Debian Jessie here on my EeePC 701 netbook and on this new Toshiba laptop I bought, pretty happy with it
08:36 Megaf not so happy with this new GNOME
08:36 Calinou Xfce ;)
08:37 Megaf I like XFCE, but when you are in a situation where you need that something that just works without you having to do anything, then GNOME can be a better choice
08:37 exio4 that is a good thing
08:37 exio4 but I haven't seen a non-common device in my life
08:37 Calinou how is Xfce hard to install or use?
08:37 exio4 mips, arm, and x86/_64 are common
08:37 john_minetest I have used XFCE in the past. It's a really nice, small and fast WM.
08:37 Calinou it is a DE, not a WM, Xfwm is the WM
08:37 Calinou (you can use Openbox or such with Xfce too)
08:38 Megaf Calinou: I mean, with GNOME, almost all my Fn keys work
08:38 john_minetest uh, yeahö.
08:38 Calinou oh, that kind of stuff
08:38 Megaf changing brighness works (most of the time)
08:38 Megaf volume control works
08:38 Calinou brightness is the responsibility of graphics driver
08:38 Megaf on XFCE I would have to configure some stuff by hand
08:39 john_minetest I actually never had to configure much on xfce. Well, maybe the looks from apple-ish to more KDE-ish, but that's it.
08:39 exio4 I haven't used volume keys in my whole life
08:39 exio4 I only change brightness
08:40 exio4 like, every six months
08:40 john_minetest Volume keys only work in my media player for me.
08:40 john_minetest And I set brighness with some command.
08:40 john_minetest But only on my laptop, on my desktop I never change my brightness. Also there is a builtin adjustment function in the monitor ;)
08:41 Megaf my netbook has kinda a hardware brighness control
08:41 Megaf the fn keys for brighness work on the SETUP and GRUB
08:41 Megaf what makes it very responsive
08:42 exio4 same for my old laptop
08:42 Megaf not when this new GNOME is loaded tho
08:42 exio4 in my case it always worked
08:42 Megaf it seem as if it has a smooth thing on brightness
08:42 Megaf so it's no longer responsive
08:43 Megaf the built in thing on the laptop wants to change the brightness very quicky, and it does, and GNOME brings it back and then goes slowly
08:43 john_minetest Heh, I am using i3wm atm. It's funny when people try to annoy you by pressing "Alt-F4" all the time. Luckily this shortcut does nothing in my configuration. So they press a few times hastily, look at me dissapointed and say: "Duh, Linux." :D
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08:44 Megaf john_minetest: with me it's with the power button
08:44 exio4 I have disabled those things, I kept mis-pressing them
08:44 exio4 the power button, alt-f4 ...
08:45 john_minetest Power buttons on archlinux seem to be configured to do an acpi shutdown by default.
08:46 Megaf hm, I'm quite happy with th positioning of fn keys and power button on this toshiba, but I hate the position of fn keys on my netbook
08:46 john_minetest I let it switched on, because I am sometimes testing programs that hang up and freeze everything (like weston with proprietary nvidia on my card), and it is nice to be able to just shut down without having to cut the power.
08:47 Megaf I mean, the fn keys are as follows. (wifi on/off) (brighness down) (brightness up)
08:47 Megaf so I keep making it go off line all the time
08:47 Calinou Megaf, some DEs do smooth brightness changes
08:47 exio4 I normally mis-disabled the wifi too
08:47 Calinou animations make stuff less instant by design
08:47 exio4 Calinou: some drivers don't support smoth brigthness changes
08:47 exio4 (example? this only has "7" levels of brightness)
08:48 Megaf I wish I had controls as I had on my very old 1994 Compaq Aero and on my 19992 Toshiba Tecra, a dial on the side of screen to change brightness AND another one to change contrast
08:48 Megaf that was perfect
08:48 Megaf -9
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08:55 Megaf brb, will try acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\"" as a boot option
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09:01 Megaf back
09:01 Megaf I will have to remap my fn keys
09:01 Megaf somehow
09:01 Megaf brightness up is making my laptop sleep
09:02 Megaf brighness down just show a battery icon on OSD
09:02 Calinou my netbook can have brightness 0, which makes it totally dark
09:02 Calinou :x
09:02 Calinou normally, brightness 0 should leave stuff visible
09:03 Megaf my netbook on brigtness 0 things still very visable
09:03 Megaf visible
09:03 Megaf but on this toshiba and on my mac screen goes totally dark
09:03 Calinou often on these devices I just use brightness 0
09:04 Megaf yep
09:04 Megaf !server Megaf
09:04 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXplore | Ping: 2ms
09:04 Megaf yay, still running after one night
09:05 Megaf Calinou: I gad this dilema when buying this 14" laptop, I could buy a 10 or 11 inch netbook or this 15" laptop, for almost the same money
09:05 Calinou 14" is a great size
09:05 Megaf I have already a 13" macbook pro, and I have already a 7" netbook
09:05 Megaf But I think I did well, and it was only 362 euros for a toshiba
09:06 Megaf oops, it's 15"
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09:19 exio4 my laptop had an optimized gentoo and stuffs :P
09:19 exio4 really crazy, worked really fast for most basic stuff, and the system used nearly no memory nor cpu
09:20 Megaf folks, Im building a new spawn on my server, in a fresh generated area, far from everything, anyone whilling to help?
09:20 jin_xi ugh gentoo on a laptop... its nice when it runs but compiling big stuff sucks a lot
09:20 exio4 jin_xi: totally worth the time though
09:21 jin_xi used to do it, but came to appreciate binary distros for convenience
09:21 jin_xi i really liked use flags for reducing deps tho
09:22 exio4 the final system was minimal and ran wonderful
09:22 jin_xi and yeah, might need to do it again soonish as my crappy comp cant handle current distros very well
09:22 exio4 KDE4 felt like a whole new desktop on Gentoo tbh
09:22 exio4 (yes, I took my time to compile KDE4 on an intel atom \o/)
09:23 jin_xi gentoo on a laptop, and trying haskell... have fun compiling ghc for 3 days straight
09:23 exio4 x11+qt+kde4 was like a whole day
09:23 exio4 jin_xi: if I install gentoo on this laptop, I'll setup distcc and use my FX when I am at home
09:23 exio4 also, 3 days? nah
09:23 jin_xi ok not 3 days, but 12h or so
09:24 exio4 binary builds are really handy, won't deny that
09:25 exio4 I haven't used gentoo in like two years though
09:26 exio4 when I bought my FX I basically installed debian as an "easy temporal solution"
09:26 exio4 a year and half passed, bought a new hdd, setup raid & crypto, still using debian...
09:26 Megaf hm
09:26 Megaf sound is no longer working on my minetest
09:27 exio4 windows8 is the solution
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09:38 mitrom Good morning
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09:59 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Don't trigger an "off" event to itself when luacontroller turns a port off d2373eb http://git.io/g5MEiw (2014-11-29T10:56:09+01:00)
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10:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, present?
10:22 OldCoder Regarding Technic
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10:23 Megaf OldCoder: You are not the only one hunting him down because of technic
10:24 Megaf Fritigern is hunting him too
10:24 Megaf have you reported a bug?
10:25 Fritigern Megaf: You mean this one? http://paste.kde.org/pmrulpjvt
10:25 Megaf yep
10:26 Megaf or no?
10:26 Fritigern It's not technic related, just unified inventory
10:28 Megaf Jeija: my fences can connect to each other vertically, but they dont conduct the signal verticaly, to something that is placed on top of them, is there a whey to change that?
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10:29 Jeija It depends on what is above them
10:29 Jeija The node above them must also accept the power from below
10:29 Megaf hm
10:30 Jeija so, for instance, MESE blocks will do just that
10:32 Megaf Calinou: so, Leprechaun Tools are tools made out of a syntethic crystal. They are ultra fast and ultra strong
10:32 Megaf https://github.com/Megaf/leprec​haun_tools/blob/master/story.md
10:33 Megaf And they are green
10:33 Calinou I already have 3 fast and strong tool sets
10:33 Calinou Mese, Diamond, Nyan
10:33 Calinou in addition to Wood, Stone, Steel, Bronze, Silver, Gold
10:33 Calinou 9 sets… enough
10:33 Megaf lol, nyam
10:33 Megaf I don't agree with that
10:37 john_minetest nyan
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10:51 OldCoder Megaf, t y
10:51 * OldCoder is mostly asleep
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10:52 mitrom morning
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10:55 mitrom hi
10:55 mitrom 13.33.33.37
10:57 hacker y34h 1337
10:57 hacker hi mitrom
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11:27 Fritigern Has anyone ever succesfully used mtdbconvert (the one that comes with mtsatellite) to convert from LevelDB to sqlite?
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11:34 mitrom wow hacker
11:34 mitrom oh its just exio
11:36 mitrom lycide, hi
11:36 mitrom You're on OpenITC right?
11:36 mitrom I can tell by your IP
11:37 hacker mitrom: just me? :(
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11:47 mriagtrom ph wow
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12:13 mitrom hacker, ping
12:17 hacker pong
12:17 mitrom wow stop hacking me
12:19 hacker heh
12:19 mitrom hehe
12:20 mitrom haskell is hacking
12:20 mitrom Just knowing it
12:20 sfan5 hacker: ilegel
12:21 mitrom I read bagel ar firsh
12:21 mitrom RealBadBagel -.-
12:21 hacker mitrom: why would you think that?
12:22 john_minetest hacker != cracker
12:22 mitrom ugh
12:22 hacker john_minetest != john_minecraft
12:22 mitrom john_minetest !=
12:22 mitrom yeah
12:22 mitrom You got me
12:22 mitrom lol
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12:33 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Fix MSVC compiling error (argc/argv not available to pass to init_gettext) a3e019c http://git.io/quCbvw (2014-11-29T22:31:40+10:00)
12:43 someguy_irc am I late? cause I found how to make mono-stable circuits with mesecons.
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13:06 RealBadAngel OldCoder, Fritigern, Megaf i will check that UI bug, thx for reporting
13:07 RealBadAngel btw, whats the point of hunting me if im logged 24/7? just leave me a message instead :P
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13:27 Fritigern How hard or easy is it to remove a bad block from a leveldb-based world?
13:28 ElectronLibre What do you call a bad block?
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13:28 Fritigern Any block of which the content is corrupted
13:29 ElectronLibre Oh. Maybe you could just remove the entire chunck... With SQLite3 it's easy, but I don't know how to do with leveldb..
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13:35 Fritigern What i *COULD* do is migrade the db to sqlite, remove the block, and migrate back to leveldb
13:35 Fritigern It's convoluted, but i don;t know how else to do it
13:36 ElectronLibre That will probably works.
13:36 * Fritigern nods
13:36 Fritigern But it';s far from ideal
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13:36 ElectronLibre I don't know if leveldb databases are as easy to change by hand as sqlites ones.
13:40 Fritigern Okay, so that didn;t work.....
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13:41 Fritigern During the migration from leveldb to sqlite, i got tons of these: 05:38:27: ERROR[main]: WARNING: saveBlock: Block failed to save (75,-7,-64): SQL logic error or missing database
13:41 Amaz How do you remove blocks by hand in sqlite3? (Just curious.)
13:42 ElectronLibre Ok.. I don't see anything else sorry :/
13:42 ElectronLibre Amaz: Edit the blob in one entry, but it's more easy to remove an entire chunck (remove an entry in the db).
13:44 Amaz Okay...
13:45 ElectronLibre With that, I tried to replace all the dirt in a chunck by snow. It has worked the third time, but it has worked.. x)
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13:55 * ElectronLibre_ may have finally updated his forked repository of minetest. That was easier than he thought.
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14:14 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Rewrite Logic Gates: Makes it super-easy to add new gates and cleans up code c326dc2 http://git.io/iqqXaQ (2014-11-29T15:08:37+01:00)
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14:46 john_minetest Why is this channel logged?
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14:48 Leoneof why
14:52 sfan5 john_minetest: why not
14:52 PenguinDad john_minetest: because we can do it
14:53 john_minetest freenode discourages logging.
14:53 john_minetest And I think that it doesn't make sense to store logs so long. It just means that dumb things you said stay online until the end of all days.
14:55 Jordach john_minetest, prefix stuff with [off]
14:55 john_minetest Storing logs for one or two days might be okay since people might want to see what happened before they joined.
14:56 john_minetest :P
14:56 sfan5 john_minetest: logs are useful
14:57 proller Jordach, but you just stupid kid
14:57 Leoneof why i am here?
14:57 Jordach says the one spamming about a fork nobody gives a shit about
14:57 Amaz john_minetest, it might make people think before they say things...
14:58 john_minetest Amaz: Many people don't realize that.
14:58 Amaz Exactly.
14:58 Amaz Hence the might
14:59 john_minetest I don't think that I said stuff that is _that_ dumb here, but I have seen many fights here. Making them accessible only deals damage.
14:59 Amaz Yeah... But there is *some* useful stuff there...
15:00 john_minetest When you keep a 24-hours log, you can get the context of what's going on atm and just jump in.
15:00 john_minetest But who will ever need anything that is more than 24 hours back and not in your chat client's log?
15:04 john_minetest But when somebody knows your nick, you can easily be found, and all the old things that you have said years ago can come back to you.
15:08 john_minetest So all in all, I am against logs that are going back longer than 24 to 48 hours.
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15:09 Megaf Hi all
15:10 Megaf Fritigern: stay away from LevelDB :)
15:10 john_minetest People change. And everybody should get a chance to change. Without any logs that set some image that show a personality that's completely different than your current one.
15:11 Fritigern Megaf: too late. MUCH too late
15:11 Megaf someguy_irc: what do you mean with mono-stable?
15:11 someguy_irc Fire's a tick Super fast
15:11 someguy_irc not stable*
15:12 someguy_irc google it then
15:13 john_minetest From http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml :
15:13 john_minetest "If you're considering publishing channel logs, think it through. The freenode network is an interactive environment. Even on public channels, most users don't weigh their comments with the idea that they'll be enshrined in perpetuity. For that reason, few participants publish logs."
15:13 Megaf [14:56:02] <Jordach> [off] eg, proller is a idiot
15:13 Megaf lmao
15:13 Megaf I don't agree tho
15:14 Megaf john_minetest: I totally agree with the log thing
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15:17 Megaf Fritigern: I made the same mistake you made, using leveldb
15:17 Megaf I made the same mistake twice
15:18 Megaf got two maps corromped and without easy fix
15:18 john_minetest Who is responsible for hosting the bot and/or logs
15:18 john_minetest ?
15:18 Megaf I'm setting up another server now, and it will be sqlite, as Megaf Server is too
15:22 john_minetest What is broken in leveldb?
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15:23 Megaf Hey Wuzzy
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15:23 Megaf john_minetest: nothing on LevelDB itself
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15:23 Megaf but it is sensitive to minetest crashes
15:24 Megaf it might fail to save map properly when the server crashes
15:24 Megaf or you have a power outage
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15:25 Fritigern Megaf: I restored an older sqlite db, and I keep getting hit by this one: 07:24:12: ERROR[ServerThread]: WARNING: saveBlock: Block failed to save (3,-1,-2): SQL logic error or missing database
15:26 Wuzzy hi
15:26 Megaf Fritigern: this map is full or broken parts :D
15:26 Megaf ops
15:26 Megaf :S
15:26 Megaf Fritigern: what happened to this poor db?
15:27 Fritigern I have no idea. It messed up and i don;t know how to fix it
15:27 Megaf is it an important db?
15:27 Fritigern migrating to leveldb did save most of it, even though large parts are now missing
15:28 Fritigern It's only my server's DB, containing all the builds of everyone who has ever built on my server
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15:28 Fritigern So yeah, pretty important
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15:31 Megaf AVICCI - Levels video cleap is cool
15:31 Megaf Fritigern: backups?
15:31 Megaf I mean, nightly backups
15:32 Fritigern YEs, but it appears that those too are messed up. And i make hourly backups. Deleting the ones that are 7 days old
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15:34 Megaf hm
15:34 Fritigern Or perhaps is sqlite itself that is messed up
15:34 Megaf or minetest...
15:34 Fritigern I don;t know. I am tired and i wans to sleep...
15:34 Megaf Fritigern: how large is it?
15:34 Fritigern *want
15:35 Fritigern 316 mb
15:37 Megaf Fritigern: go to sleep, tomorrow you will be thinking better
15:37 Megaf Jeija: https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1884#issuecomment-64955415
15:39 Jeija Megaf: Setting active block range to 1 will hardly have any impact on mesecons, it only impacts the blinky plant and mesecon torches
15:40 Jeija I'd like to test the CPU usage before deciding either way
15:40 Megaf Jeija: it have huge inpact actually, because lots of mesecons will just not transmit the signal and machine wont be active
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15:41 Jeija That's not true, Megaf, mesecons on the server will always be active, it just doesn't update on the clients
15:41 PenguinDad Jeija: the default value should stay 2.0 imo
15:41 Jeija See the docs: "how large area of blocks are subject to the active block stuff (active = objects are loaded and ABMs run)"
15:41 Megaf um
15:42 Megaf so, if mesecon wires are not loaded and their ABM to change state doesnt run is less load...
15:42 Jeija Megaf, mesecons doesn't use ABMs except for the torch and the blinky plant
15:42 Megaf Jeija: decreasing that it's only a work around and not really a fix
15:43 Jeija Let's just test that: I have a minetest server running at 109.192.65.30, ports are 30000 (normal) and 30001 (with #1884). You can join and test it, and I will have a look at the CPU usage.
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15:43 Jeija please join both servers at the same time, so that I can compare
15:43 Megaf cool, let me switch laptops
15:46 Jeija So, everybody is invited: If you like to, please join 109.192.65.30, ports 30000 AND 30001 at the same time for testing purposes.
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16:01 Jeija Test results: 1-2% CPU usage increase with #1884, large improvement for local player, but only slight improvement for remote clients
16:01 Jeija (if any at all); so: maybe have a lower value in singleplayer and higher values for servers
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16:09 OldCoder RBA says is logged in 24-7 but does not seem to be here
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16:13 Megaf OldCoder: he said this
16:13 Megaf [13:06:59] <RealBadAngel> OldCoder, Fritigern, Megaf i will check that UI bug, thx for reporting
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16:14 Zeno` Jeija, you may now test 1855. Thanks! :D
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16:27 Zeno` lol
16:27 Zeno` #1885 I meant
16:27 Zeno` Thanks PenguinDad :P
16:29 Jeija Interesting, Zeno` , reading that now...
16:30 someguy_irc + I think bags mod uses textures from "backpack" mod from minecraft
16:30 someguy_irc hi Zenie
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16:32 Zeno` :( Hi someguy_ircie
16:33 shadowzone hi zenie wenie
16:33 someguy_irc ?
16:33 someguy_irc wut happen?
16:33 shadowzone huh?
16:34 exio4 oh
16:35 exio4 thought we were here
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16:35 * exio4 throws lots of doritos over Zeno`'s keyboard
16:35 * exio4 pours coca cola over VanessaE's
16:35 * shadowzone throws some rocks at exio4
16:35 * exio4 throws shadowzone's keyboard off
16:35 exio4 nuu
16:35 * VanessaE peeks in
16:35 * shadowzone picks up her spare
16:35 VanessaE exio4: go ahead, I just bought a new keyboard anyway
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16:36 exio4 heh :P
16:36 VanessaE one of these, in particular:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IYJD5CY/re​f=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
16:36 exio4 I only have my old kb
16:36 Zeno` hi shadzie_wadzie
16:36 VanessaE (I hate spending that much on a keyboard but I'm sick and G*d damned tired of junk keyboards)
16:36 someguy_irc Corsair ahh
16:37 shadowzone Zeno`: nice..
16:37 shadowzone just nice
16:37 PenguinDad exio4: Are they mountain dew flavored?
16:37 exio4 nope
16:37 PenguinDad :(
16:37 Zeno` I have a UPS now. Watch this!
16:37 shadowzone VanessaE: I want one
16:37 * Zeno` turns the power off at the wall
16:37 exio4 Zeno`: me too! :D
16:37 Zeno` aha! I am still here!
16:38 shadowzone Cool
16:38 * shadowzone plugs Zeno` back in
16:38 * exio4 hugs PenguinDad
16:38 Zeno` 80 minutes expected battery capacity
16:38 * Zeno` launches minetest
16:38 exio4 8 minutes
16:38 Zeno` 15
16:38 * Zeno` turns the power back on
16:38 exio4 I think I have like 10~15 minutes with high load
16:39 exio4 havent' used it with my new case
16:39 exio4 need to hack a little bit my old PSU
16:39 exio4 cheap psu that sucks
16:39 shadowzone I am getting new RAM modules
16:39 exio4 I am ok with my 12gb of slow ram
16:39 shadowzone so I don't have anymore random restarts.
16:39 exio4 it isn't my priority atm :D
16:40 exio4 (it still sucks badly)
16:41 Zeno` I have RAM
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16:46 OldCoder Megaf, t y but I have an interesting Technic lag issue. Lag spikes when people *leave* their machines.
16:46 OldCoder Not the same thing; I'll watch for him
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16:48 someguy_irc my ups is in the service center.
16:48 someguy_irc getting fixed by slackers.
16:48 someguy_irc it had gone boom ;-;
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17:00 Wayward_One hello Zeno` :) any news on those experimental speed/performance boosts?
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17:07 MinetestBot [git] kaeza -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix leaked globals. e707ba3 http://git.io/_DkmcQ (2014-11-29T18:03:18+01:00)
17:10 OldCoder If I have 2 days worth of rollback and try /rollback Bacon 150000 where Bacon is a player who has griefed and it says nothing to do; what might I be doing wrong?
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17:16 CraigyDavi Heh sfan5, anything wrong with https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/345 ?
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17:20 VanessaE OldCoder: same happens on my servers sometimes.
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17:21 OldCoder VanessaE, I have never seen rollback work but others have used it on my worlds
17:21 OldCoder So it can be useless?
17:22 OldCoder I am spelling the griefer's nick correctly and have rollback data for the period
17:22 VanessaE at times, yes, but I don't quite understand why it misbehaves
17:22 OldCoder Just says nothing to do
17:22 OldCoder Well, I'll use my world patch code but it will take a day
17:22 Amaz The only time I have ever seen rollback work was when I was testing it in singleplayer.
17:22 OldCoder Amaz, really?
17:22 Amaz Yep.
17:22 OldCoder I wonder what is different on servers
17:23 Amaz I've never had it work on my server or any of yours.
17:23 CraigyDavi Rollback is quite a pain, when rolling back it sometimes doesn't work or it lags like hell
17:23 CraigyDavi Also sometimes there are dark shadows left behind
17:24 OldCoder All right. So, useless. Is anybody here familiar with sicdonia? I'll need to write code to repair it.
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17:43 STHGOM would any1 be able to host a mt server for me?  I cant open a port on my anntenna
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17:44 Calinou we probably won't host a server for you…
17:44 sfan5 who is 'ew'?
17:44 Calinou there are tons of public servers
17:44 sfan5 we*
17:44 kaeza of course you can't. you need water to be able to have a port!
17:44 Calinou “probably”
17:44 Calinou maybe someone is generous enough
17:44 kaeza (unless it's an air port)
17:45 STHGOM kaeza: 0_o
17:45 PenguinDad kaeza: or an android port :P
17:47 STHGOM lol
17:48 STHGOM do you know of any CTF servers that are online?
17:49 CraigyDavi CTF =  capture the flag?
17:49 STHGOM yes
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17:50 CraigyDavi This was the last capture the flag server: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8790
17:50 CraigyDavi Not up any more though
17:51 STHGOM not enough ppl?
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17:51 CraigyDavi No it's just not up anymore for some reason
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17:53 Calinou my connection sucks, so I can't host one
17:53 Calinou except if you like 1v1 CTF :P
17:54 STHGOM lol
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18:30 Megaf Am I here?
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18:31 Megaf VanessaE: OldCoder: same happens to me
18:32 Megaf sometimes I have to wait a day so rollback will tell me who did that
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19:41 OldCoder Megaf, kk
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20:02 BFett OldCoder
20:04 BFett PM doesn't seem to be working
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20:36 marktraceur BFett: Yes, all PMs are down because of the zombies.
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20:55 hawk666 any modders on ?
20:56 marktraceur hawk666: Yes.
20:56 marktraceur Hello! When you're on IRC it's usually good practice to jump right in and ask a question, as it saves time for everyone involved :) how can we help you?
20:57 hawk666 I am having a texture issues, i am working on a car mod, i have added a car model that has two texture files, for some reason it only loads the one texture
20:58 hawk666 textures = {"sferiffi.jpg",  "sferiff.jpg"},
20:58 hawk666 this is my texture string
21:02 Jordach entities only support multiple textures if they have multiple materials
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21:03 waressearcher2 what can I do with screwdriver ?
21:04 NemoMT Rotate objects
21:05 marktraceur Screw stuff
21:05 marktraceur Open doors (if they aren't deadlocked)
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21:05 shadowzone I used a screwdriver to enter a locked house
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21:25 kaeza credit cards work too
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21:25 kaeza there's also the master key ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAC_Masterkey )
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21:57 jacksepticeye My freind told me cg world is in trouble
21:58 jacksepticeye Any admins here
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22:17 Krock !tell rubenwardy update #1748 please
22:17 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
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23:11 waressearcher2 how to increase gamma ?
23:11 waressearcher2 is there a console command or should I tweak source code ?
23:24 domtron waressearcher2: never done it myself. You might try looking at the main minetest.config which is in the root folder of minetest.
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23:38 Megaf VanessaE: Can you please fix this? http://paste.debian.net/plain/134256
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23:40 Megaf VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/​homedecor_modpack/issues/150
23:40 Megaf !title
23:40 MinetestBot Megaf: 18:39:00: ACTION[ServerThread]: Deprecated add_particlespawner call with individual parameters instead of definition · Issue #150 · VanessaE/homedecor[...]
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