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00:03 shadowzone XD
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00:23 Fritigern I just read this on notalwaysright.com : Lawn Care Customer: “Can you fertilize me next week?”
00:25 PenguinDad lol
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01:27 toothpickb Greetings
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01:33 freelikegnu Fritigern: yeah not like most of the internet runs on linux... should have said BSD "What that some kinda demonic OS!?"
01:33 freelikegnu does your ISP support HURD?
01:34 freelikegnu can I get an "internet install CD" for BeOS?
01:39 toothpickb Wondering if virtualbox running linux will be faster than running minetest server on windows
01:39 toothpickb I'll know shortly...or have an idea
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01:45 toothpickb freelikegnu, Haiku might please you.
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02:05 freelikegnu toothpickb:  virtualbox probably not, the 3D support is barely adequate
02:07 freelikegnu I have run it that way on a window 7 laptop, i7/nvidia virtualbox running xubuntu with virtualbox guest additions
02:08 toothpickb freelikegnu only as server no client needed...
02:09 freelikegnu that is probably ok, I suppose networking might be the only challenge
02:09 freelikegnu also make sure you are getting vt-x working
02:11 freelikegnu I had fun the other day making a ps4 dualshock joypad work over bluetooth with a linux guest in virtual box on windows host
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02:12 freelikegnu this was using the laptops onboard BT captured as a sub device into the virtualbox guest
02:12 freelikegnu *usb device
02:13 freelikegnu so glad I dont have to run windows at home :D
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02:35 AgentFire Heya NemoMT
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02:37 Fritigern Damn those netsplits!
02:38 NemoMT Hello AgentFire
02:38 AgentFire NemoMT: I'm about to join Liberty Land
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02:41 NemoMT AgentFire: Awesome. Unfortunately by internet is going slow at the moment. so I won't be joining the server now.
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02:48 AgentFire Aww, okay
02:50 toothpickb gnight
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03:35 bigman247 People have built some pretty cool stuff on that Liberty Land server.  Just learning the game, and this is way cooler than what I've built. :D
03:35 AgentFire bigman247: I know, I've got a nyan cat
03:36 bigman247 Lol - I read about those
03:36 bigman247 Trying to find an unclaimed area
03:38 AgentFire Tp to me
03:42 bigman247 what's the command to talk in Minetest?
03:42 AgentFire T
03:44 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx how can i set that swords cannot dig?
03:44 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx I dont want to destroy my landscape while fighting zombies
03:44 VanessaE make it so that only the "fleshy" group is affected
03:45 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx in which file i can configure it?
03:45 VanessaE the sword is probably set to affect snappy and such
03:45 VanessaE you have to find where the sword is defined in minetest_game/mods/default and modify it there
03:45 VanessaE probably tools.luya
03:46 VanessaE -y
03:46 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game​/blob/master/mods/default/tools.lua#L257
03:46 VanessaE might be enough to comment-out those groupcaps = {} stanzas
03:47 VanessaE leaving just the damage_groups = {} definitions
03:48 VanessaE (groupcaps sets the capabilities of a tool - what properties of a node the tool can work on.  snappy is things like leaves, grass, cactus, etc
03:48 VanessaE )
03:48 Fritigern OFF-TOPIC: I just read this one : "Stop trying to figure out who wears the pants in your relationship. Relationships work best when no one is wearing pants!"
03:49 freelikegnu werd
03:49 freelikegnu skirts ftw
03:49 Fritigern That's right skirts and kilts!
03:50 freelikegnu and fur cleaving thongs
03:50 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx didnt work
03:51 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx stil able to dig with a sword
03:51 Fritigern No? Fur cleaving thongs didn;t work? Hmmm... How about Speedoes?
03:51 freelikegnu maybe it was a speedont
03:51 Fritigern Loincloth then?
03:52 freelikegnu Tolkien marketing goes over the edge with the Gloincoth
03:53 VanessaE xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: unless you modified the wrong file, or modified a game you're not running, or modified without restarting, that should work
03:53 freelikegnu I can almost feel a beard in my mouth trying to pronounce Gloincloth™
03:55 Fritigern Try it Scots-style Lloinclogh!
03:56 freelikegnu made from authentic scotch tape and whiskey
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03:57 VanessaE xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: or you're trying to dig with a sword you didn't modify - there are several kinds, and they all have to be changed in the same way. whatever you didn't change, you'll still be able to dig with
03:57 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx btw does mods need to go to /minetest-master/mods or to /games/minetest_game/mods?
03:58 VanessaE minetest/mods
03:58 freelikegnu if only minetest was in a lunar landscape
03:58 VanessaE minetest_game/mods is for code that's been shipped as part of minetest_game.
03:59 freelikegnu you could just be happy
03:59 freelikegnu cutting the cheese
04:00 Fritigern Hmmmm.... Gouda.....
04:00 freelikegnu Gouda woulda shoulda
04:01 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx I made groupcaps={} to all swords
04:01 Fritigern BUT!!! Is the sword that you ue part of that group?
04:01 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx yes
04:01 VanessaE more to the point, is the sword you're using part of minetest_game or is it being supplied by a mod?
04:01 Fritigern It's good to have that double checked :-)
04:02 VanessaE i.e. is it say, a stone or steel sword?
04:02 VanessaE or something like a mithril sword (moreores)?
04:02 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx seems to be part of the game
04:02 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx Wooden sword
04:02 VanessaE and you're actually playing minetest_game in your world, and not minimal?
04:03 freelikegnu good for slaying octorocks
04:03 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx yes
04:03 VanessaE check again that you modified the right file - i.e. the active game files that you're playing
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04:05 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx yes done
04:05 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx when I modify the ull_punch_interval = 0.1, then I can kill mobs faster
04:06 VanessaE strange.
04:06 VanessaE wait,
04:06 VanessaE some of the nodes in the game are "oddly_breakable_by_hand"
04:06 VanessaE I wonder if an empty groupcaps={} will cause the game to revert to that mode?
04:06 VanessaE try setting those to nil instead
04:08 VanessaE well dirt is crumbly=3 so that's not it.
04:08 VanessaE anyway try that.
04:09 VanessaE beyond that, I'm out of ideas.
04:09 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx crumbly = nil ?
04:09 VanessaE no
04:10 VanessaE groupcaps = nil
04:10 VanessaE the only other idea I can come up with is groupcaps= with zeroed-out values for all of the dig times.
04:11 VanessaE e.g. copy this, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_gam​e/blob/master/mods/default/tools.lua#L11  and set all of those times to 0, or maybe it's 9999 or something and maxlevel=0
04:11 VanessaE it's been forever since I looked at how tools work
04:11 VanessaE lemme check the api
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04:14 VanessaE yeah, that seems right.
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04:16 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx yopu mean like this? choppy={times={[1]=0, [2]=0, [3]=0}, uses=0, maxlevel=0},
04:16 VanessaE try [1]=9999   et al.
04:17 VanessaE and set the uses= field correctly according to the tool.  it's a guess
04:18 VanessaE the API doesn't make it clear how the uses is interpreted when the tool is used to attack an entity
04:20 jessiebessie does Xavi come on this server?
04:21 VanessaE jessiebessie: not on this network, only on Inchra.
04:21 jessiebessie oh ok does that server have a irc network?
04:21 VanessaE yes
04:22 VanessaE irc.inchra.net
04:22 VanessaE or isis.inchra.net, or digitalaudioconcepts.com
04:22 VanessaE channel #minetest
04:22 VanessaE (Inchra is the name of the IRC network, not the name of a server)
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04:24 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx didnt work
04:24 VanessaE what did it do?
04:24 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx nothing changed
04:25 VanessaE then you're *definitely* modifying the wrong file
04:25 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx if you meant this
04:25 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx crumbly = {times={[1]=9999}, uses=999, maxlevel=1}
04:25 jessiebessie ok
04:25 VanessaE yes, except of course I meant for you to include the [2] and [3] entries, hence "et al."
04:25 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx no, the file is correct i tested
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04:26 VanessaE crumbly = {times={[1]=9999, [2]=9999, [3]=9999}, uses=999, maxlevel=1}
04:26 VanessaE and do the same for snappy and oddly_breakable_by_hand
04:26 VanessaE er maxlevel=0
04:26 VanessaE experiment
04:26 VanessaE play around with it until it works right :)
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04:26 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx lol i dont understand why, but now it worked
04:27 VanessaE jellow: wrong network :)
04:27 VanessaE grr
04:27 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx thanks :)
04:27 VanessaE jessiebessie: wrong network :)
04:27 jessiebessie I know lol
04:27 jessiebessie what is the channel name cuz I use kiwi irc and is their a channel for it?
04:28 VanessaE xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx:  if you included the [2] and [3] to make it work, it's because now you're accounting for nodes that have crumbly = 2 or crumbly = 3 in thier definitions
04:28 VanessaE jessiebessie: channel #minetest
04:28 VanessaE jessiebessie: but wait.
04:28 VanessaE jessiebessie: you don't have to close this tab to go over there.  you can open another page and be on both networks at the same time.
04:29 jessiebessie I know I can but this is #minetest
04:29 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx ah ok :)
04:29 VanessaE so? :)
04:29 VanessaE it's a different network
04:29 jessiebessie oh ok
04:34 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx can I clear all dropped items without clearing my NPCs?
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04:39 VanessaE xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: not precisely
04:39 VanessaE you can use worldedit to clear entities from a selected area
04:39 VanessaE and dropped items will auto-expire anyway
04:40 VanessaE but entities are entities as far as the engine is concerned, so NPCs will get removed too if they're in the selected area in question
04:42 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx but NPCs will not expire right?
04:42 VanessaE correct
04:42 VanessaE if the mod is up-to-date enough anyway
04:42 VanessaE actually, that shouldn't matter
04:42 VanessaE I think dropped items have an explicit setting to expire and everything else is set not to by default
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04:48 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx ok, thats good :)
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10:17 Megaf folks, the story of my new mod, it's not ready, I still have to make the textures, bue I'd like to share the story with you
10:17 Megaf https://github.com/Megaf/leprec​haun_tools/blob/master/story.md
10:18 Calinou everything bolded/title, why?
10:18 Calinou arrenge → arrange
10:19 Calinou shinny → shiny
10:19 Calinou (oh, both exist actually)
10:19 Zeno` Leprechauns!
10:20 Zeno` reverse engineering -> reverse engineered
10:20 Zeno` proccess -> process
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10:20 Zeno` specially atracted -> especially attracted
10:20 Zeno` find lot's -> find lots
10:21 Zeno` Sounds fun :)
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10:26 Megaf I cant fix that now, I got to run,I will try to hide in Duldalk
10:26 Megaf in County Louth
10:26 Megaf please, can someone correct the spelling in a PR?
10:27 kaeza mornings
10:28 Calinou hi kaeza
10:28 Zeno` ahoy there kaeza
10:30 Megaf bye all
10:30 Zeno` bye bye
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10:42 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Rewrite mesecon wires. This should increase the efficiency and speed of 194155f http://git.io/A9_Ucg (2014-11-22T11:40:58+01:00)
10:47 Calinou cool
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11:03 ventrillov_ I've got a problem. How to install minetest-irc mod? I have unzipped it and renamed it to minetest-irc. It does not work, my server is crashing when I launch it.
11:04 ElectronLibre Kaeza must be the best one to help you. Have you installed all the needed packages? (lua-socket, ...)
11:05 ventrillov_ Oh, I didn't knew that this mod needs additional packages. Thanks a lot for help. I've readed readme file and found what i had needed.
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11:24 Zeno` well
11:24 Zeno` that was fun
11:24 Zeno` :/
11:27 kaeza ventrillov_, this probably contains more updated info: http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods/IRC
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11:31 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Pressure plates and the object detector will send power to vertical b5cc933 http://git.io/2y6b-A (2014-11-22T12:30:39+01:00)
11:34 kaeza "Hello, I never want to disturb you at all with this business proposa.But will like you give me your attention pls. I need a matured and capable hand in a business deal of $8.5 million US dollars.I belief you are suitable to handle such project perfectly."
11:34 kaeza srsly
11:35 Zeno` count me in
11:35 Krock lol
11:35 n4x hi weird people
11:36 jin_xi ugh. reading comments on keyboard input element for formspecs makes me sad.
11:36 PenguinDad kaeza: I do right belief you in :P
11:36 jin_xi lets kill all interactive mods for no more lag and super fps
11:37 kaeza srsly, how do people fall for this bullshit?
11:38 kaeza PenguinDad, give me your attention pls
11:38 Zeno` what bullshit?
11:38 kaeza :D
11:38 PenguinDad Let's remove player movement everything will be much smoother then!!1!
11:38 jin_xi https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1737 this discussion
11:38 Zeno` PenguinDad, I've already done that
11:39 PenguinDad lol
11:39 kaeza jin_xi++
11:39 kaeza or... wait, what side? :P
11:40 * PenguinDad hands kaeza a bucket ful of attention
11:40 jin_xi wut? i'm hoping this feature gets added and promise to finish arcade mod when its in
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11:41 jin_xi also i think its a very bad way to welcome contributors, specially modders who do engine work to support their mod ideas
11:41 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&t=156&p=162560#p162560 what's wrong with the image?
11:41 Krock hint: look at the URL
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11:41 jin_xi are you 14?
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11:42 Krock no?
11:43 sfan5 jin_xi: s/14/12/
11:43 davegoopot Hello.  I'm setting up a server on linux and I'd like it to use the current working directory for the minetest files rather than ~/.minetest.  Any idea how to do that?
11:43 Krock ^ use run_in_place
11:43 sfan5 davegoopot: compile minetest with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
11:44 davegoopot No apt-get solution then?  :-)
11:44 sfan5 probably not
11:44 PenguinDad Krock: what are you talking about?
11:44 davegoopot Okay.  Thanks
11:44 sfan5 davegoopot: unless it's enough if you want the world folder config and log file in the current dir
11:44 Krock PenguinDad, about the sense of life
11:45 sfan5 you can do that via --world ./world --logfile ./debug.txt --config ./minetest.conf
11:45 sfan5 the subgame folder will still be in /usr/share tho
11:46 davegoopot sfan5:  Thanks i'll have a play.  I wanted to create a game with a custom mod + other bits
11:47 kaeza you can also store the game into worlds/yourworld/game/, and mods into worlds/yourworld/worldmods/; that keeps everything pretty much self-contained
11:49 davegoopot kaeza:  Thanks. I'm trying it out now...
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12:00 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix smooth lighting (ambient occlusion) cb2d467 http://git.io/bwQF1A (2014-11-22T21:58:00+10:00)
12:00 MinetestBot [git] neoascetic -> minetest/minetest: Fix compiling if no endian.h found f7f24d1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/f7f24d1470d9553fdedcc0c687f0d9bd263b4903 (2014-11-22T21:56:38+10:00)
12:08 * Zeno` wonders if neoascetic is here
12:08 Zeno` he's very quick at closing his PRs
12:08 n4x neat
12:08 n4x my chaser a31 is _finally_ on the way
12:08 Zeno` is that a car?
12:09 PenguinDad n4x: your UPS?
12:09 Zeno` UPS in the car?
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12:09 n4x no, the case
12:09 n4x the UPS is notyet™
12:09 Zeno` I need a UPS :/
12:10 * Jordach purrs
12:10 Zeno` power around here has been terrible lately
12:10 * Zeno` roars
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12:10 n4x power here has been terrible since I have memory
12:10 n4x rural area ain't nice in those things
12:11 n4x small packages have higher priority and take practically nothing
12:12 Zeno` I'm rural as well, but until this year things had improved
12:12 Zeno` now it's terrible again
12:12 Zeno` My Android should arrive Monday. I hope he's nice
12:13 n4x well, ← Argentina
12:13 Zeno` well, <- Australia
12:13 n4x really?
12:13 Zeno` yeah
12:13 n4x thought you were in DE?
12:14 Zeno` Because... of my accent?
12:14 Zeno` :)
12:14 n4x heh
12:14 Jordach i live in a farmlandy area but have a good internet speed + good power grid
12:14 n4x Zeno`: you're german though, aren't you?
12:15 Zeno` internet here is (usually) good, but not power
12:15 Zeno` n4x, nah I was born in Australia and my parents were born here as well
12:15 Zeno` I dunno where you got the idea I was german from lol
12:15 n4x neither I do
12:15 Jordach alright you criminal :3
12:16 Jordach .(although
12:16 Jordach your internet prices are literally criminal)
12:16 n4x everything is criminal-priced in australia!
12:16 jin_xi 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉!
12:17 n4x well, you're from the best hemisphere Zeno`, nice to know \o/
12:17 n4x heh
12:17 Zeno` haha
12:18 Zeno` It's like Krock. I know he's not in Germany but everytime I see his nick I think "aha! He's from Germany"
12:18 Krock *Switzerland
12:18 Jordach *worst hemisphere for prices
12:18 Zeno` I pay $69 a month for internet
12:18 Zeno` ADSL2
12:19 n4x wow, I am like, fkd up
12:19 Zeno` I know Krock, but for some reason I still think you're from Germany
12:19 n4x I thought Krock lived in 'murica
12:19 Zeno` lol
12:19 Zeno` you're in a spot of trouble n4x :D
12:19 n4x well, I am sure Calinou is french, right? RIGHT?
12:19 n4x at least lie
12:19 * Jordach and Krock had the same computer tower for a while
12:19 kilbith he is
12:19 Krock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region_of_Murcia
12:19 Jordach only difference being the CPU
12:19 * sfan5 looks at n4x
12:19 Zeno` kilbith is French as well
12:19 n4x and kaeza is from Uruguay 4♥
12:20 n4x oh, well
12:20 Zeno` sfan5 is from Istanbul
12:20 PenguinDad I always thought Zeno` lived in New Zealand
12:20 * Krock knows about the weakness of the Celeron D now
12:20 sfan5 Zeno`: wat, no
12:20 n4x I would like to know why I thought you were german anyway
12:20 Zeno` Sheesh, nobody knows where I live :(
12:20 n4x PenguinDad: you're german, no?
12:20 Zeno` I'm a german-australian-kiwi apparently
12:20 n4x lol
12:21 PenguinDad n4x: yep I'm german
12:21 * sfan5 noms Zeno`
12:21 Zeno` nom nom nom
12:21 sfan5 nom nom nom
12:21 PenguinDad mon mon mon
12:21 Krock dinosaur-behavior
12:23 Zeno` nom nom nom
12:23 Zeno` ok, this is weird
12:23 sfan5 meow
12:23 n4x yup, sfan5 is weird
12:23 Zeno` whimper
12:23 n4x that is like, old news
12:24 * Zeno` cries
12:24 Zeno` it's 40C here :(
12:24 Zeno` too hot
12:25 Jordach aww
12:25 Jordach grab a cold one then
12:25 Zeno` should I?
12:25 Jordach yavul
12:25 jin_xi n4x: no, sfan is a cat
12:25 Zeno` ok then, you've twisted my arm
12:25 n4x does anyone know sfan5's age?
12:25 Jordach ~17
12:25 n4x Zeno`: 40C? but.. humidity?
12:25 Jordach best guesses
12:25 Zeno` in cat years or human years
12:25 n4x human years
12:26 Zeno` He looks about 21
12:26 Zeno` wait
12:26 n4x I thought he was like 17
12:26 Zeno` that's kaeza
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12:26 Zeno` stupid internet!
12:26 n4x kaeza is older, I think
12:26 n4x kaeza: tell us your age! and win a pony for xmas!
12:27 Zeno` back to planting my underground rainforest
12:27 * sfan5 plants a kitten tree on Zeno`'s head
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12:27 Zeno` oh gawd :(
12:27 Zeno` did you have to? :3
12:27 * Krock likes sfan5's idea
12:27 sfan5 Zeno`: yes
12:27 Zeno` ok then
12:27 * Zeno` pats kitten tree
12:27 Krock kitten trees :3
12:28 Jordach BFD Easter Egg: Kitten Sapling that spawns a random kitty based on well known Minetester's skins
12:28 Jordach 1/40000 chance of dropping it from any tree
12:28 n4x we're at 18.2C but 75% humidity atm
12:28 Krock more common wasn't possible, eh?
12:28 * sfan5 drops a kitten in front of n4x
12:29 Zeno` I think humidity is... I'll look
12:30 PenguinDad Zeno`: humidity is the dry/wet ratio :P
12:30 Zeno` 88%
12:31 Zeno` thanks PD :p
12:31 n4x 40C and 88% humidity?
12:31 n4x that is like 50C feels like?
12:31 Zeno` yes :(
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12:31 n4x or 55C or something like that
12:31 Zeno` I dunno ... I just know it feels terrible
12:31 * ElectronLibre have finally arrived to compile his own Minetest-client on Windows. How fast it is!
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12:32 Jordach Krock, new build pls
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12:32 Krock Jordach, cuz of smooth lightening?
12:32 Jordach ya
12:32 Krock k
12:32 Jordach and that schematics (mgv7) work again
12:33 ElectronLibre That's beautiful, something endian.h-related crashed the compiling ._.
12:33 Zeno` again?!
12:33 Zeno` ElectronLibre, have you got the version from about 30 minutes ago?
12:33 Jordach why do we even need endian anymore
12:33 ElectronLibre I've downloaded it 10 minutes ago.
12:34 Zeno` Can you pastebin the error?
12:34 Krock Zeno`, are there gonna be more commits before Istart compiling?
12:34 Zeno` not that I know of
12:34 Krock k
12:34 Krock compiling with 2 new commits..
12:36 Krock btw, Zeno`, what's your avatar showing? a puppet or an animal?
12:36 ElectronLibre Zeno`, http://pastie.org/9736305
12:36 jin_xi its alf, right?
12:36 Zeno` it's ALF
12:36 jin_xi he likes to eat cats
12:36 Zeno` yes :)
12:36 Krock ElectronLibre, wtf? why not using msbuild?
12:36 ElectronLibre Msbuild?
12:36 Krock that's on every windows system
12:37 Zeno` I've suddenly decided to hate Windows
12:37 Krock mostly in %windir%\Microsoft.NET\Framework\[framework version]
12:37 ElectronLibre Oh, I see some commits after my last download.
12:37 Krock Zeno`, it compiled fine on MSVC just now
12:37 * Krock slaps ElectronLibre
12:37 Zeno` Maybe it will be ok then :)
12:38 * Zeno` pushes some commits just to annoy Krock
12:38 ElectronLibre I try.
12:38 * Krock ignores Zeno`'s try to annoy
12:38 Zeno` :D
12:40 Krock 4 minutes until you can play with the patched version, Jordach
12:40 * Zeno` jumps up and down in excitement
12:40 raffahacks http://is.gd/bmgw3p lol
12:41 sfan5 !title
12:41 MinetestBot sfan5: Source electric moped 125CC on m.alibaba.com
12:41 raffahacks (no virus, don't worry)
12:42 Zeno` it's a photo of my car
12:42 raffahacks Look carefully at the logo
12:43 Krock Jordach, https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v8m4k6nh​62pi4n/minetest_141121_fix.zip?dl=0
12:43 Zeno` lol raffahacks
12:43 ElectronLibre Zeno`, it compiles perfectly now thank you :).
12:44 PenguinDad YAYAMA :D
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12:44 Zeno` ElectronLibre, I didn't fix it, I just signed it off ;)
12:44 raffahacks Doyayama, the logo is the o
12:44 * ElectronLibre first read Yamaha and then realized it was wrong.
12:44 Zeno` took me a bit to see that
12:44 ElectronLibre Zeno`, ok ^^.
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12:45 ElectronLibre (I get a lot of warnings, but it compiles well)
12:45 raffahacks When you see a good brand on alibaba, always look very carefully
12:46 Zeno` alibaba and the 40 thieves
12:46 * Krock wonders why ElectronLibre compiles his/her Minetest binary self
12:46 raffahacks Like the UltraFlre batteries (FLRE, not FIRE)
12:46 bionictoothpick This isn't the right channel, but btoothpick says it is taken, and I registered it...
12:47 raffahacks And the 400000000 fakes
12:47 * ElectronLibre likes to change a few stuff in the code to customize his minetest build. And he doesn't need to wait the release of another build.
12:48 btoothpick Got it.
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12:48 raffahacks There are MANY MORE than 40 thieves on alibaba :)
12:49 Zeno` 42?
12:49 raffahacks 40^40 maybe
12:49 btoothpick Thinking of alibaba reminds me of my GP32...that was great while it lasted.
12:50 raffahacks Well, some electronics on alibaba are good
12:50 Krock Does anyone else have the problem where water in oceans do not flow into caves, even when update_liquids in the VM is called?
12:50 ElectronLibre Krock: I compile it on Windows actually because the fastest computer I own is on Windows. I've planned to install a Debian on it to use its 16 cores fully, I've heard that the FSF has got a SecureBoot key.
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12:51 * raffahacks thinks FSF is free software foundation
12:51 btoothpick I didn't realize I couldn't use keyboard remotely in vmware player until last night...was going to try switching a sever from windows to virtual linux
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12:54 ElectronLibre Oh, what a beautiful compiling error I get. *-*
12:57 Zeno` ?
12:58 ElectronLibre It seems I've not lauched mingw32 well, or something else. I try to to it again with a brand new source directory.
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13:09 btoothpick I am trying to find a collection of we files. The ones I create in game don't crash the server...the two I have tried downloaded elsewhere do.
13:12 kilbith don't use the WE files; use the MTS instead
13:17 PenguinDad kilbith: sometimes we files are useful
13:17 n4x "we files"?
13:17 n4x oh, WE files
13:18 kilbith WE are only useful for save the chest content
13:18 kilbith +files
13:19 kilbith otherwise it's completely uneffcient
13:20 Krock *inefficient
13:24 n4x not efficient
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13:29 Zeno` slow
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13:39 Krock http://i.imgur.com/yOFmWsw.png
13:39 ElectronLibre ._.
13:40 Zeno` hey, that's sfan5!
13:40 sfan5 no
13:40 sfan5 this is me http://i.imgur.com/ERebecg.jpg
13:40 Zeno` oh wait... that's the heavy load picture
13:40 Zeno` awww
13:40 Zeno` you cute!
13:41 Krock :3
13:41 * Zeno` makes sfan5 his wallpaper
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13:50 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Use an iterative algorithm for turnon() and turnoff(), fixes #160 ffacbfd http://git.io/9-UGCQ (2014-11-22T14:47:18+01:00)
14:09 ElectronLibre Does anyone know if this is normal? => http://pastie.org/9736473
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14:17 Krock ElectronLibre, use irrlicht 1.8.1, not 1.9
14:19 ElectronLibre I use 1.8.1 actually.
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14:21 * ElectronLibre have just realized he did an enormous mistake in the setting of IRRLICHT_SOURCE_PATH
14:27 ElectronLibre Ok, even with another directory, it doesn't work with irrlicht-sdk-1.8.1 and 1.7.3. I'm gonna try something else, if you've any idea, I would be happy to hear them.
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14:31 Krock no idea. it works with msbuild - irrlicht 1.8.1
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14:33 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: refactor main.cpp d6cc0d8 http://git.io/HpYtyQ (2014-11-23T00:27:02+10:00)
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14:39 ElectronLibre To be sure I don't do again a mistake,  must the IRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR be REP/irrlicht-1.8.1/sources ?
14:39 Krock let me see
14:40 Krock irrlicht-1.8.1/source/Irrlicht
14:40 ElectronLibre Ok, I've tried it but for 1.7.3, I'm gonna try with the 1.8.1 .
14:44 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Replace mesecon:<some_function> with mesecon.<some_function> for greater 5be179b https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/​commit/5be179bf110b44bdc06df6dbfde4e61487cf0635 (2014-11-22T15:42:22+01:00)
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14:50 ElectronLibre Ouch, it does the same error again, sorry Krock, that didn't help me... >.<
14:50 Krock ElectronLibre, http://pastebin.com/rcrRGbz2 how it looks in my configuration
14:51 ElectronLibre Let me see, there is no IRRLICHT_LIBRARY or IRRLICHT_DLL set in mine. ._.
14:53 ElectronLibre Ok, now there is no problem ._.
14:54 ElectronLibre Thank you Krock :D
14:54 Krock np
14:55 ElectronLibre There was no Library set for Irrlicht.. Now there is one. :D
14:55 gravgun If at least there was a package manager and/or pkg-config on Windows, everything would be fine...
14:56 ElectronLibre Wait for Win10, I've heard the will be something like that coming soon.
14:56 ElectronLibre (Or it was just a beggining project I don't remember well)
14:58 Zeno` scary
14:59 gravgun Meanwhile, /me stays on Linux, and won't come back to M$' operating system...
15:00 * Krock stays on Windows XP and waits for ReactOS
15:01 gravgun Is ReactOS still alive?
15:01 Amaz I think so.
15:01 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix bug in mesecon.mergetable that caused false rules 29dc500 http://git.io/SkmrdA (2014-11-22T16:00:49+01:00)
15:01 gravgun Darn, jeija is fast!
15:02 * Zeno` stays on Linux and waits for Haiku
15:02 n4x >Haiku
15:02 n4x >not *BSD
15:03 Amaz Yep, I think it is: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos/
15:03 Zeno` nope... Haiku
15:03 gravgun Zeno`: I tested Haiku once, thought it was pretty neat; I also liked the blazing fast compile time for the whole OS, and also love the fact it's written in C++
15:04 n4x written in C++? damn, lets remove it of my "awesome operation systems" list
15:04 gravgun n4x: it features a whole object-oriented API
15:05 n4x oh my
15:05 gravgun although C++ might not be the most loved language, it's still great
15:05 n4x how can someone live with that?
15:05 n4x that seems like the worst decision ever
15:05 gravgun >BeOS
15:07 gravgun It being written in C++ or any other language doesn't bother me; I just think an (official) OO API is awesome compared to functional C ones
15:07 gravgun Well C ones rocks too, but depends on which
15:07 gravgun (WinApi suxx)
15:07 n4x we need more high-level languages
15:07 gravgun Python?
15:08 sfan5 ^
15:08 n4x no, something like Rust would do it
15:08 n4x Python would be worse than C++
15:08 sfan5 n4x: relevant: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/3924c7ac5cf2c0573112
15:08 PenguinDad Let's write an os in Haskell ;)
15:08 gravgun x)
15:08 n4x PenguinDad knows
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15:08 * n4x gives PenguinDad some high-order candy
15:09 gravgun I like Rust for its features, dislike it for its look
15:09 n4x Rust isn't finished
15:09 gravgun I know
15:09 n4x they want to have higher-kinded abstractions somewhen
15:09 n4x that would be beautiful
15:10 gravgun quick, learn to LLVM and make custom language
15:10 n4x who didn't make a toy language somewhen...
15:11 gravgun Me
15:11 gravgun Well
15:11 gravgun "not yet"
15:11 gravgun plan to
15:12 n4x gravgun: it isn't that hard, there are lots of things that make it easier
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15:13 gravgun n4x: e.g. flex and yacc?
15:14 gravgun I plan on making the whole parser myself...
15:14 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix regression with USE_REDIS (refactor_main) 2146463 http://git.io/EWH3TA (2014-11-23T01:12:25+10:00)
15:14 n4x was talking about Parsec, or BNFC like things
15:14 n4x also, ADTs make it easier to make an interpreter or compiler
15:15 n4x gravgun: that is good if you don't care about the language itself, parsing is most boring task you can have
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15:17 n4x have you played with functional languages gravgun?
15:18 gravgun n4x: "functional" as in non-OOP?
15:18 n4x functional as in Haskell, Scheme...
15:19 gravgun then no
15:19 n4x learn you a haskell for a great good!
15:19 Zeno` chicken
15:20 gravgun wat?
15:20 n4x http://learnyouahaskell.com/
15:20 Zeno` http://www.call-cc.org/
15:20 n4x abstract syntax trees are well, trees, and trees are beautiful in functional languages
15:20 * ElectronLibre gives Zeno` feathers
15:20 Zeno` lol
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15:23 gravgun note to self: don't press Ctrl+Q by accident
15:23 n4x I looked at code I wrote like, 2 months ago and it already looks ugly
15:23 Zeno` probably written in Perl
15:24 n4x no, ugly in the sense that it has useless boilerplate around
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15:28 n4x I am like jehovah's witness with Haskell
15:29 PenguinDad Do you have time to talk about our lord and savior Haskell?
15:30 n4x exactly!
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15:38 luizrpgluiz hi
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15:57 Krock http://i.imgur.com/BK673by.png
15:57 shadowzone Lol
15:58 ElectronLibre Two kicks at once, wow.
15:58 PenguinDad Krock: How do you write that blurry text in minetest? :P
15:59 Krock PenguinDad, censored.
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15:59 * ElectronLibre loves the "feel my powaaah!"
15:59 PenguinDad [censored]Blurred text test[/censored]
16:00 PenguinDad Did it work?
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16:03 kaeza ,00no
16:03 ElectronLibre Krock, there is still something quite strange with minetest.exe when I launch it, there is an error message about a missing procedure's entry's point (translated from french..).
16:03 Krock ElectronLibre, got all dlls?
16:04 PenguinDad kaeza: that's sad :(
16:04 Krock ElectronLibre, can you send a screenshot?
16:04 Calinou hi
16:05 ElectronLibre I have all the dll founds in the bin directory of the last release (0.4.10). I'm gonna send you a screeshot, but it's in french...
16:07 y Calinou: they still suck
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16:10 Calinou better than low-end NVIDIA/AMD GPUs, sometimes
16:11 y low-end _newer_ NVIDIA/AMD GPUs are still better than ''high-end'' _newer_ intel gpus
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16:13 ElectronLibre Krock: https://mediacru.sh/jlujbB6bIE-s
16:14 kilbith Calinou: decrease the player's velocity/drifting in Carbone, bad for gameplay
16:14 Krock ElectronLibre, are you sure, you've got the version 1.8.1 of irrlicht.dll in bin\ ?
16:14 Calinou you mean, you want more acceleration?
16:14 Calinou current is good enough, feels semi-realistic
16:14 kilbith no, less
16:14 Calinou as for movement speed: it is unlikely to change
16:15 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Use iterative algorithm for mesecon.find_receptor_on, major performance improvement for large d19e975 http://git.io/Ih_SvQ (2014-11-22T17:12:48+01:00)
16:15 ElectronLibre Krock: I recompile again after having copied the file tu be sure.
16:15 kilbith when you jump+run from the water, you feel like a submarine's rocket
16:15 Calinou 4.8 has proven to be a very good value, however view bobbing doesn't follow it (sadly)
16:15 Calinou that's OK, swimming shouldn't be so slow
16:15 Calinou boats are still faster
16:15 Calinou (they are step-independent now)
16:15 kilbith are you feel like onto a rink when you're running in the lands
16:15 kilbith and*
16:17 Calinou it is running
16:17 Calinou 4 nodes/s is too slow, too boring
16:17 Calinou 4.3 (Minecraft) could be faster
16:17 Calinou 4.5 nodes/s is still a bit slow
16:17 ElectronLibre Here is what happen if I use the 1.8.1 SDK dll : http://pastie.org/9736682 (same message than earlier after I finally compiled to 100%)
16:17 Calinou 5 nodes/s a bit fast… so 4.8 is a good value
16:17 kilbith drifting is exagerate when you stop running
16:17 Calinou have you ever played Quake?
16:17 kilbith yes, a long time ago
16:17 Calinou there is less acceleration/friction even there
16:19 Xack hey Calinou :)
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16:19 Calinou hi Xack
16:20 kaeza ElectronLibre, it's better if you build Irrlicht yourself
16:20 ElectronLibre Ok, I'm gonna compile it by myself to see. I will do that for all the dlls I need and I've got the sources of.
16:20 kaeza cd irrlicht-1.8.1/source/Irrlicht && mingw32-make CC=mingw32-gcc sharedlib_win32
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16:21 ElectronLibre What happend without the CC?
16:21 y gravgun: please, don't even talk about powervr
16:21 kaeza it calls `cc`, but base mingw does not contain it
16:21 y I am using an "intel gma" of thoses that are actually powervrs
16:22 kaeza (it's just a link to `gcc` anyway)
16:22 ElectronLibre The default compiler set is Gnu GCC so..
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16:22 gravgun y: why?
16:22 gravgun oh
16:23 ElectronLibre gravgun, because. I think.
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16:23 y those things are one of the reasons I hate humanity
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16:23 gravgun ElectronLibre: 42?
16:23 y if you ever EVER, create something like that, and release it
16:23 y that is because you wanted to torture people
16:23 * ElectronLibre take 42, the universe meaning *-*
16:24 PenguinDad !c 42 << 1
16:24 MinetestBot 84
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16:24 PenguinDad uhhh
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16:26 Zeno` errrrrrrrrrr
16:27 Zeno` PenguinDad, was that a signed or unsigned 42?
16:27 PenguinDad Zeno`: dunno
16:27 PenguinDad !c -42 << 1
16:27 MinetestBot -84
16:27 Zeno` whoa!
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16:28 gravgun !c sqrt(42)
16:28 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sqrt' is not defined
16:28 gravgun Nuuuuu
16:28 Zeno` I think that's undefined behaviour
16:28 Zeno` well... implementation defined
16:28 PenguinDad !c math.sqrt(42)
16:28 MinetestBot 6.48074069840786
16:28 PenguinDad ^ gravgun
16:28 gravgun \o/
16:28 Zeno` !c math.pow(2, 2)
16:28 MinetestBot 4.0
16:28 gravgun it's lua?
16:28 sfan5 no
16:28 sfan5 python
16:28 Zeno` I dunno what it is lol
16:28 PenguinDad gravgun: python
16:29 Zeno` oh python... hmm
16:29 gravgun !c "a" + "b"
16:29 MinetestBot 'ab'
16:29 Zeno` I can't write python.. ignore my last !c
16:29 gravgun wow
16:29 gravgun !c "a"*3
16:29 MinetestBot 'aaa'
16:29 gravgun It's like an interactive shell
16:29 gravgun kewl
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16:30 y a REPL
16:30 Calinou please don't play with the bot here
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16:31 Zeno` !c "ok"
16:31 MinetestBot 'ok'
16:31 y sfan5: if I wrote an interpreter of my toy language, with timeout support 'n' stuff in Python, and made a plugin to MinetestBot that allows you to run it, would you install it?
16:31 * ElectronLibre now have got his own Irrlicht.dll
16:32 Calinou Python is fine, keep it
16:32 y it is python, as much as Java
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16:39 sfan5 y: y not
16:39 y y not what
16:40 sfan5 >[...], would you install it?
16:40 y oh
16:40 y thanks
16:45 kaeza make a LUA bot pls
16:45 kaeza yes, LUA
16:48 PenguinDad We need HLUABot :D
16:49 sfan5 kaeza: ur not online on tox
16:50 y you scared him sfan5
16:50 kaeza sfan5, I accidentally my tox
16:51 kaeza also, it consumed *ALL* teh bandwidth while active :(
16:51 sfan5 wot
16:51 sfan5 what is your internet connection
16:51 kaeza yea, something like 100M per day or so
16:51 sfan5 ooh
16:51 sfan5 you mean that
16:52 sfan5 it uses about 2.5-7.5 KB/s up and down for me
16:52 kaeza sfan5, I'm on a 5GB plan; 100M of tox means 100M less for pr0n^Wproductive stuff
16:53 sfan5 oic
16:53 kaeza (also, my computer rebooted and I forgot to start it again, and other lame excuses)
16:53 sfan5 do you use internet over hspa/lte?
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16:53 kaeza yes
16:54 * ElectronLibre is hopping Code::Blocks include crtdbg.h or he won't be able to compile Irllicht..
16:54 sfan5 kaeza: where do you live again?
16:54 kaeza ElectronLibre, let me get you a working command line
16:54 kaeza sfan5, Uruguay
16:55 y I need help of any python programmer, how would you make an evaluator of an AST? a tree structure!
16:55 y working Haskell code that does what I mean http://dpaste.com/32QYZ3N
16:55 sfan5 kaeza: is it fast, at least?
16:56 sfan5 !g evaluate AST python
16:56 kaeza ElectronLibre, try `make CFLAGS+=-D__GNUC__` or so
16:56 MinetestBot sfan5: https://docs.python.org/2/library/ast.html
16:56 ElectronLibre Ok, thank you kaeza.
16:56 sfan5 nope
16:56 sfan5 thats not the one
16:56 kaeza sfan5, 1mbps down, 256kbps up
16:56 ElectronLibre (Actually it's mingw32-make but it doesn't change anything, I think)
16:56 sfan5 kaeza: that sucks, is it lte or hspa or even umts?
16:57 ElectronLibre It doesn't change anything.. so Code::Blocks is my last hope.
16:57 kaeza ElectronLibre, actually, it's CPPFLAGS=..., not CFLAGS
16:57 ElectronLibre Oups.
16:58 ElectronLibre And another missing library appears :D
16:58 ElectronLibre I'm gonna fix this one, thank you kaeza :).
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16:58 kaeza sfan5, no idea, actually
16:58 kaeza ElectronLibre, np
17:00 sfan5 kaeza: umts is not actually what I was looking for;; it's probably hspa because hspa is fast enough for what you described
17:02 ShadowNinja kaeza: HLuaBot has the eval command, but it's owner-only.   A public sandboxed one is hard since it has to run in a separate thread or you have to use alarm() or something to limit execution time.
17:02 kaeza the frontend here says WCDMA, not sure if that's it
17:03 kaeza ShadowNinja, but it's Lua, not LUA :(
17:03 ShadowNinja The thingy I did with LuaCs might work too.
17:03 ShadowNinja kaeza: Oh, miinip (or whatever his name is) has a bot for that.
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17:33 ElectronLibre (Recompiling with hand-compiled Irrlicht.dll ; curl.dll started)
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17:55 ElectronLibre Same error again and again.. I'm gonna end by give up..
17:55 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx Hello. Minetest is free software right? does it mean, I can make with the content, screenshots, videos (etc)  whatever I want, even monetize on youtube?
17:57 sfan5 depends on the content
17:57 sfan5 looks at the licenses
17:57 sfan5 some might have non-commerical clauses that (probably) prevent you from doing monetizing
17:57 gravgun xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: I think this kind of issue is more related to the game / mods / texture packs than to Minetest itself...
17:57 sfan5 but minetest & minetest_game (w/o mods or texture packs) is fine
17:58 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx so without mods, its complete free software?
17:59 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx (/textures)
17:59 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:59 sfan5 yes
17:59 sfan5 it's probably free software with mods too
18:00 sfan5 I don't know of any mod that isn't open source
18:03 gravgun sfan5: mods being open source or not is not the problem, it's the author's decision on "can you make money with it"
18:03 sfan5 thats what i meant
18:03 gravgun and remember open source != free
18:03 gravgun most free mods have licenses that permit that
18:04 gravgun but suppose an open source but nonfree mod exist and forbids that, he's trapped
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18:28 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx is WTFPL the same as CC0 ?
18:28 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx I mean practically?
18:29 marktraceur xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: No, with WTFPL you retain copyright.
18:29 marktraceur CC0 releases to PD where possible.
18:29 marktraceur At least that's what I understand.
18:29 marktraceur IANALY.
18:29 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx ok, thanks
18:30 gravgun marktraceur: still, WTFPL is pretty permissive if I can say so :3
18:30 marktraceur It is.
18:31 marktraceur Functionally, in most cases, it's the same.
18:35 Calinou marktraceur, in France, it doesn't seem to be possible to release to public domain
18:36 marktraceur Calinou: So then they'd be pretty much the same thing.
18:36 marktraceur But only in that jurisdiction.
18:36 Calinou CC0 has warranty disclaimer and is more complete
18:36 Calinou also has no strong language
18:37 Calinou this is why the FSF approves, but does not recommend the WTFPL
18:37 marktraceur I thought there was a warranty disclaimer you could add to WTFPL
18:41 kaeza ElectronLibre, what issue are you having?
18:42 Calinou it is not included by default
18:42 Calinou thus = bad
18:43 kaeza I compiled irrlicht from sources successfully mucking around with `make` variables, but can't remember the procedure very well
18:44 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx Calinou and kaeza, if making youtube videos using your mods, is it necessary to credit you below each video, as asked fromk the CC-BY licence?
18:44 Calinou it would be impossible to attribute people individually
18:44 Calinou don't waste time doing it
18:45 kaeza I would be glad, but it's not really required
18:45 gravgun Just say which mods you use, and better, link to their homepages; credits are accessible from there
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18:46 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx to the mod pages of the minetest wiki?
18:46 ElectronLibre Kaeza: Still the same error, unable to export a bunch of undefined symbols...
18:46 ElectronLibre And I used my own compiled Irrlicht.dll
18:47 kaeza but did you point to the correct libIrrlicht.a?
18:47 ElectronLibre Don't you mean .a?
18:47 ElectronLibre *.dll?
18:48 kaeza no, for linking, the DLL doesn't matter; the DLL is only loaded at runtime
18:48 ElectronLibre Because I was poiting on libirrlicht.a or something like that, and someone said it was wrong.
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18:50 ElectronLibre *O*
18:50 gravgun ?
18:50 ElectronLibre Compiling working well with libirrlicht.a ...
18:51 kaeza \o/
18:51 gravgun Of course, it's statically linked...
18:51 gravgun (dynamic linking suxx hard on Windows)
18:51 ElectronLibre I remember someone said it was wrong.
18:51 gravgun Me? "<gravgun> Le .a c'est pour le static link"
18:52 ElectronLibre Yes, I may have misheard you perhaps..
18:52 gravgun Didn't say you musn't use it tho
18:52 ElectronLibre The only problem is now I get an error WHEN I start minetest xD
18:52 gravgun Awwww
18:52 kaeza what error?
18:53 ElectronLibre The same error than earlier. I seek the link.
18:53 kaeza when running, you need the DLL corresponding to the .a
18:53 ElectronLibre https://mediacru.sh/jlujbB6bIE-s
18:54 ElectronLibre Yes, obviously, I have Irrlicht.dll in the bin directory.
18:54 kaeza but is it the one you compiled?
18:54 Calinou Carbone will soon reach 400 commits
18:55 ElectronLibre Kaeza: Yes.
18:56 ElectronLibre With Code::Blocks (only way to compile with a missing Microsoft Visual C++ library).
18:56 Calinou Core::Blocks has an optional TDM-GCC bundle
18:56 ElectronLibre (A what?)
18:56 Calinou a compiler
18:56 ElectronLibre Yes, it's this one I used.
18:58 kaeza ElectronLibre, only thing that could be causing that issue is using a mismatching DLL
18:59 kaeza can you download Dependency Walker and see if you can find that symbol in your Irrlicht.dll?
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18:59 ElectronLibre I'm gonna do it right now.
19:00 ElectronLibre Have you looked at the name of this symbol, because I saw something related to Irrlicht with a similar name (irrXML).
19:01 kaeza you should see something like this: https://mediacru.sh/tASFD9v6KJPG
19:01 ElectronLibre Ok. This program seems to be easy to use.
19:02 kaeza BTW, if you load `minetest.exe` in it, it can also help you find if you are missing any other DLLs
19:03 ElectronLibre Wow : The list is shown, but I get an error : "Errors were detected when processing "c:\minetest\......\bin\MINETEST.EXE". => Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found.
19:04 kaeza ignore it for now, look for `irrlicht.dll` and take a screenshot of what you see
19:04 ElectronLibre Irrlicht.DLL is drawn in red..
19:07 kaeza huh?
19:07 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix compatibility with not yet updated mods that use mesecon:receptor_* a550323 http://git.io/n9FYBQ (2014-11-22T20:05:36+01:00)
19:07 ElectronLibre https://mediacru.sh/8iGkpw5ENXRq <== See there.
19:08 kaeza from the symbols on the list, it looks like it was probably not compiled with g++
19:08 ElectronLibre And the two red functions in the middle top with a red C at their left are the names of the missing procedure entry's point.
19:08 kaeza are you sure you didn't copy MSVC's version of Irrlicht.dll?
19:08 ElectronLibre No, that's mine.
19:09 ElectronLibre I'm gonna check by copying the other mine to ./bin..
19:10 ElectronLibre And if it's not mine, it's obviously the Win32-gcc one, because I've not copied another else.
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19:11 * ElectronLibre has got an idea
19:11 ElectronLibre Why not download the MinGW 0.4.10 release and use the dll in it?
19:11 Krock Bad point of the skin database: Every skin is sent to the player- about 400 images!
19:13 kaeza ElectronLibre, C++ DLLs compiled with different compilers usually don't work because ABI incompatibility
19:13 kaeza actually name mangling or w/e
19:13 ElectronLibre Oh..
19:15 ElectronLibre I've recompiled and copied Irrlicht.dll, and now the error is from elsewhere ._.
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19:16 kaeza at least you solved a problem :P
19:16 kaeza what is the error now?
19:16 ElectronLibre And I think I know how to resolve this one.
19:16 ElectronLibre There is a missing function in Libvorbis.dll
19:16 kaeza I see
19:17 * ElectronLibre disables sound.
19:17 y lol
19:17 kaeza I just downloaded the pre-built DLLs that buildbot uses (except obviously Irrlicht and hiredis)
19:19 ElectronLibre Ladies and gentlemen, it works!
19:19 kaeza \o/
19:20 ElectronLibre Ok, I have no sound, no cURL, and no gettext, but it works..
19:20 ElectronLibre "God bless DLLs"...
19:20 kaeza at least it's a step forward
19:21 ElectronLibre Yes.. 2 months ago I didn't know how to compile, 1 month ago I learned how to do on Linux, and now I'm gonna do it for Windows.
19:22 kaeza don't blame DLLs, blame C++
19:22 ElectronLibre I would thank all the people who helped me to do that, kaeza, Krock, and a few other I don't remember the names..
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19:22 kaeza you're quite welcome
19:23 AgentFire Hi kaeza
19:23 kaeza o/
19:23 * ElectronLibre is not receiving a Grammy Award. Let's calm down.
19:23 ElectronLibre Hello AgentFire.
19:23 AgentFire Hello ElectronLibre
19:25 Krock ElectronLibre, were you able to run it now?
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19:26 ElectronLibre Krock: Yes, it works.
19:26 Krock fine
19:26 ElectronLibre "It is alive! It moves! Who is crazy now? Mouhaha!"
19:26 y you are the crazy
19:27 ElectronLibre Ok, we're not in Frankenstein, but I'm so happy It took 8 hours but I did it x)..
19:27 GhostDoge y: we're all mad here :>
19:27 ElectronLibre y: If I had get one cent each time I've heard that...
19:27 y ElectronLibre: you'd have my two cents
19:29 ElectronLibre I would have a billion dollars, including your two cents :).
19:31 kaeza "Minetest was started by Perttu “celeron55” Ahola in October 2010, and is now developed by a random bunch of lunatics."
19:32 ElectronLibre That's so true...
19:33 * ElectronLibre get kicked by everyone.
19:33 * AgentFire kicks ElectronLibre
19:33 * AgentFire then apologizes and gives a large ice cream sundae
19:34 AgentFire Sorry, I can't do it, I can't be mean
19:35 ElectronLibre I think you can with me x)...
19:35 * ElectronLibre eats the ice cream before it melts.
19:36 AgentFire xD I love ice cream
19:38 ElectronLibre (My favorite tastes are apple and orange, but everything could be good.)
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19:38 AgentFire (I love chocolate x))
19:38 ElectronLibre So, thank you kaeza for this wonderful program you've shown me, Dependency Walker could be very useful to me in the future.
19:41 kaeza ElectronLibre, yw
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19:52 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix bug in mesecon.find_receptor that caused false turnoffs and rewrite lever + 80d1361 http://git.io/TotyVw (2014-11-22T20:49:54+01:00)
19:53 kilbith does we really to be notified from mesecons stuff ?
19:53 kilbith really need
19:53 ElectronLibre I was just wondering why mesecons is notified to us too.. and why not worldedit or something else.
19:55 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: we also get worldedit notifications
19:55 kilbith wordedit is essential, but mesecons... :/
19:56 ElectronLibre Ok.. because it's part of the most used mods on servers?
19:57 Jeija Well, you won't get notified too often; just a couple of times on like 5 days a year that I work on the project
20:01 VanessaE mesecons is essential :)
20:01 Krock kilbith, mesecons are important
20:01 Megaf Hi everyone
20:01 Krock <3 Jeija
20:02 kilbith oh really ? for what ? for whom ?
20:02 Megaf so, I think I corrected all spelling errors. https://github.com/Megaf/leprec​haun_tools/blob/master/story.md
20:04 Megaf VanessaE: my players are protesting on my server right now
20:05 VanessaE Megaf: why?
20:05 Megaf VanessaE: they are protesting agains the skins, because theres so much more male skins than females
20:05 ElectronLibre Megaf, what?!
20:05 VanessaE oh well
20:05 VanessaE get more skins off of one of the usual sites then
20:05 Megaf I would, but there is no easy way to add skins to that mod
20:06 Megaf the python scripts to generate preview and stuff are broekn
20:06 Megaf broken*
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20:10 Krock It seems as the combination of the mods homedecor, pipeworks, mesecons and moretrees are not good.
20:10 VanessaE Krock: what's wrong?
20:10 Krock My 1st server has them and my 2nd not. The 1st server is also the one with the most timeouts because the clients lag out themselves
20:11 VanessaE that's not gonna be a mod issue
20:11 VanessaE that's an engine issue
20:11 kilbith Krock: your homedecor is pretty outdated, though
20:11 Krock I guess so. I see no other reason
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20:11 Krock kilbith, tat means, it has less stuff than the current. even signs are turned off
20:12 VanessaE update to latest and just remove the signs mod if you don't want it
20:13 Krock I'll use the map saving feature to test if it's compatible
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20:14 casimir In formspec "list[context;fuel;2,3;1,1;]" What am I supposed to use as "context"?
20:15 ElectronLibre Oh, I remember now. How to use this feature about Saving the map of a server in the local system?
20:16 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/9d69436052c32bc218352fc991be157a4f135b9d​#diff-2fb5b44f6775f04cbd1e45bc2dfeb8b8R168
20:16 VanessaE /p set
20:17 VanessaE ops
20:17 Krock xD
20:17 VanessaE oops
20:17 Krock mhm homedecor isn't just homedecor..
20:17 VanessaE it's homedecor_modpack
20:17 VanessaE and if you want to get rid of some component, you just delete it
20:17 Krock much changed since I saw it last time :3
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20:19 CWz what is "dedicated_server_step"
20:19 Krock thrad minetest.conf.example
20:19 Krock *read
20:21 Krock oh fine. the terrain regenerates on the local copy
20:22 VanessaE Krock: what regenerates?
20:22 Krock the dirt turned into sand o.o
20:22 rubenwardy !title https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/8bfeca7880358a70e364
20:22 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Mathematical Expression Parser in Ruby
20:22 Krock and I lag as hell on singleplayer
20:22 Krock oh. memory overflow
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20:25 * ElectronLibre gives Krock memory.
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20:25 Krock VanessaE: 21:29:39: ERROR[main]: mod "homedecor" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks" "signs_lib"
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20:27 kaeza casimir, "context" refers to the inventory from where to get the list
20:28 kaeza err, ignore that
20:28 casimir And how do I know what the inventory (of the node) is called?
20:28 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1249
20:28 casimir Ah, overseen that.
20:28 kaeza casimir, if you assign the formspec string to the metadata of a node, "context" refers to "this very node's metadata"
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20:29 kaeza I'm not sure if "context" makes any sense on e.g. `show_formspec`
20:29 kaeza s/metadata/inventory/
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20:30 VanessaE Krock: wat?  it's not supposed to hard-dep on signs_lib...
20:30 VanessaE building_blocks, yes because it needs materials from that
20:31 Krock :/
20:31 VanessaE hm, strange.  it does hard-dep on it.
20:31 * VanessaE looks into it more
20:32 VanessaE you'll want building_blocks, it supplies about a dozen or so base materials that turned out to be VERY useful to craft with in HD
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20:33 Megaf kilbith: my newest mod, I believe its stable now
20:33 Megaf https://github.com/Megaf/leprechaun_tools
20:33 Megaf it adds tools made of leprechaun crystal
20:33 kilbith the looney's toons mod ?
20:33 kaeza it has horses, so it's stable
20:33 kaeza <_<
20:33 Megaf leprechain crystal is a syntetic crystal made from diamonds and mese
20:34 kilbith ah
20:34 Megaf kaeza: lmao
20:35 kilbith Megaf: can't test your mod, not played MT since 8 days :'(
20:36 casimir Thank you kaeza, but it seems to be complicated in my case...
20:36 Megaf my mod is not working
20:36 Megaf have to take a look the recipes
20:37 kaeza casimir, you're quite welcome
20:38 VanessaE Krock: fixing the signs_lib dependency now.
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20:40 luizrpgluiz the maximum size of the blocks is a resolution of 150x150?
20:42 VanessaE a texture can be any size
20:42 VanessaE preferably a power of two
20:42 VanessaE 64, 128, 256, 512, ....
20:43 Megaf kilbith: you need to buy a laptop asap
20:43 luizrpgluiz Megaf: hi Megaf :)
20:44 Krock VanessaE, fences.lua contains a function call of it
20:44 VanessaE Krock: fixed in git.
20:44 VanessaE signs_lib is now optional.
20:44 Krock okay thanks
20:44 VanessaE building_blocks is still required.
20:44 Megaf hi there
20:44 VanessaE (many recipes won't work without it)
20:44 Krock :/
20:45 kilbith we should offer alt. recipes for those materials...
20:46 kilbith Megaf: I'd prefer a better RPi-build with Irrlicht 1.7 ;)
20:47 VanessaE Krock: seems like building_blocks is optional in the sense of it not being more than a depends.txt issue
20:47 jin_xi hm, so i built head, and it feels quite fast. bt when flying around with debug graphs on i noticed they sometimes jump, like the entire bar is shifted in y direction and sometimes cut. so i wonder if that has been the case before and i never noticed or if its a new phenomenon
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20:48 VanessaE Krock: update and try it without signs_lib or building_blocks now.
20:48 Krock VanessaE, it works :)
20:49 VanessaE Krock:  of course you can expect many recipes not to work now without the latter.  hope you're in creative mode :)
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20:50 Krock there are like 3 pages of nodes more than in my old version 0.0
20:50 VanessaE yup
20:50 Krock unified inventory pages
20:50 VanessaE kilbith had a lot to do with some of that
20:51 kilbith ... and it's not finished :P
20:51 kilbith (kidding)
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20:59 Megaf I need help please. is there anything wrong with the recipe? https://github.com/Megaf/leprecha​un_tools/blob/master/init.lua#L66
21:00 shadowzone I think it's a little too expensive but other than that looks fine
21:00 VanessaE looks okay to me?
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21:00 VanessaE is there some crash you're trying to work through
21:00 VanessaE ?
21:02 Megaf Well, I try to craft the crystal but nothing happens
21:02 Megaf I'm trying*
21:02 Megaf oh wait, I see what I'm doing wrong
21:02 Jordach Megaf, output = 'leprechaun_tools:leprechaun_crystal 2',
21:03 VanessaE that just makes it cheaper but doesn't explain why it ain't working.
21:03 Jordach s/2/1/g
21:03 VanessaE not necessary
21:04 Megaf I'm sorry folks, mod is actually working
21:04 VanessaE ...
21:05 VanessaE I was gonna say, there's nothing wrong with this recipe..
21:05 Megaf someone it was unmarked on the list of enabled mods
21:06 Megaf somehow*
21:06 Megaf Is this the week of typos or something?
21:06 RealBadAngel or just new keys as in my case ;)
21:06 luizrpgluiz Megaf: your items is very fast
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21:07 PenguinDad Megaf: probably
21:07 Megaf shadowzone: That crystal can make powerful tools, do you think that could be more apropriated if it gave two crystals?
21:07 shadowzone True
21:07 Megaf RealBadAngel: I'm using a new keyboard too, actually a new laptop, so I'm getting used to it
21:09 RealBadAngel Megaf, http://www.a4tech.com/images/produ​cts/Accessary/KD-800L_410X220.jpg
21:09 RealBadAngel this is my new one
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21:12 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Re-implement settings system: f977ac8 http://git.io/mERiXw (2014-11-22T22:09:26+01:00)
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21:18 Jordach wait
21:18 Jordach jeija is alive
21:19 Jeija I guess so
21:19 PenguinDad Jordach: you're early at noticing this :P
21:19 Jordach :O
21:19 Jordach TIL
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21:20 Megaf RealBadAngel: I've seen it
21:20 Jordach Jeija, i missed ya
21:20 Megaf i like the looks :)
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21:20 Megaf Hi Jeija, thanks for merging my fences
21:20 Jeija But I guess I will only be "alive" for a couple of days and then go back to half a year of hibernation again
21:20 RealBadAngel holy shit! hi Jeija!
21:21 Jeija Hi RealBadAngel
21:21 Jordach Jeija, you're like a relic of the days of 20120116
21:22 Jeija @Megaf: I didn't merge your fences yet. Could you move them to a seperate directory (like mesecons_conductingfence) and use mesecon.register_node for node registration?
21:22 Jeija If so, that would be really nice and make things easier for me.
21:22 shadowzone hi jeija
21:23 Megaf Jeija: sure
21:23 Megaf I will be that later on
21:23 Megaf at the moment Im talking to the folks on my server about my new mod there, the Leprechaun tools, I think they liked it :)
21:24 AgentFire At what level can entire mese blocks spawn?
21:25 kilbith <= -1024
21:26 AgentFire Okay, I've still got to go deeper
21:27 Jeija Btw, has something like https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/490 been implemented in the time I was gone? I tried to rebase it to the current minetest, but things have changed too much.
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21:31 Megaf Jeija: I dont think so
21:31 MinetestBot [git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #156 from HybridDog/ov_it fb5c9ed http://git.io/4nsnIA (2014-11-22T22:30:31+01:00)
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21:37 AgentFire Mese is a part of the Mesecons mod right?
21:37 ElectronLibre Mese node is in default mod, in the minetest_game.
21:37 Jeija No, mesecons only re-defines it to use it as a conductor
21:37 ElectronLibre Mesecons, mese wires are defined in mesecons(/wires)
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21:39 gravgun Jeija: sorry if it's already been asked; but are color-coded mese wires possible?
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21:40 Jeija Like insulated wires with different colors?
21:40 gravgun Yes
21:41 Jeija Technically possible, yes. But I haven't coded it. Also, the performance impact of this would be quite large.
21:41 Jeija As for every wire color one has to register like a hundred nodes, which makes the minetest engine slow (especially slow to start up).
21:42 gravgun If at least MT would let us create node subtypes
21:42 Jeija I recommend to just use insulated wiring, you can achive the same thing with that (it may not be as comfortable as with colored wire however)
21:43 gravgun TBH I amlost never played with mesecons, but I thought it could be an idea (was comparing to MC's RedPower mod in my head)
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21:43 RealBadAngel Jeija, we are going to have specialized wirelike drawtype for such things, so only one nodedef will be required
21:43 luizrpgluiz Megaf: which mods you created yourself so far?
21:45 LazyJ Does anyone know what the fate of mapgen v7 is?
21:45 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge branch 'doorsounds' a814abd http://git.io/_ndWpg (2014-11-22T22:43:12+01:00)
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21:46 RealBadAngel Jeija, atm im changing drawtypes: http://i.imgur.com/GYVEWmK.png
21:46 RealBadAngel and http://i.imgur.com/36CFEmh.png
21:46 RealBadAngel the second shows how vga like signlike will look like
21:49 AgentFire Which is better for mining?
21:49 AgentFire Mese or Diamonds
21:50 RealBadAngel laser ;)
21:50 RealBadAngel or a mining drill
21:51 Jeija That looks really awesome, RealBadAngel
21:53 RealBadAngel Jeija, check plants with shaders on: http://i.imgur.com/TwSDoSm.png
21:53 AgentFire RealBadAngel: Umm, I don't think that's installed on the server
21:53 AgentFire Jeija: I have a question for you
21:54 RealBadAngel AgentFire, you need technic for those
21:55 AgentFire Jeija: How do I get a button and a powered rail to work?
21:55 gravgun RealBadAngel: VGA signlike? How will it be controlled lua-side?
21:55 RealBadAngel gravgun, video memory in meta
21:56 gravgun nice :)
21:56 Jeija AgentFire, I have nothing to do with powered rails. Where do you have them from?
21:57 AgentFire I don't know what mod they're in, I'm playing on a server, but they are apparently powered my mese torches
21:57 RealBadAngel gravgun, so basically vga drawtype will be a monitor
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21:57 VanessaE carts mod, AgentFire
21:57 gravgun RealBadAngel: with pixel-manipulation possible, or will it be VGA text-mode only?
21:57 VanessaE it provides the powered rails.
21:57 RealBadAngel gravgun, for start text only
21:58 gravgun \o/
21:58 VanessaE as for getting them to work, use a mese block as a conductor, and a wall lever to turn it on.  [rail][block][lever]
21:58 gravgun Expecting pixel impatiently
21:58 RealBadAngel but i do plan lotsa more, including video streams
21:58 gravgun \\\o///
21:58 gravgun Nyan cat live MT streaming
21:58 gravgun Oh wait we can do that with VGA already
21:59 RealBadAngel mt is capable of playing audio streams since ages, just nobody used that feature
21:59 gravgun I was not even aware
21:59 RealBadAngel why not allow the same for video?
21:59 gravgun and now I'm amazed
21:59 VanessaE aalib for minetest? ;)
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22:00 RealBadAngel mt uses openal, which is capable of playing ogg streams
22:00 gravgun Oh please RealBadAngel, implement libcaca VGA-like video playback!
22:00 * ShadowLadyXD think she broke her PC with Minecraft
22:00 gravgun </crazy>
22:00 khonkhortisan must've been the redstone
22:00 gravgun Mese tastes 4x better!
22:01 ShadowLadyXD Probably
22:01 gravgun Trust me
22:01 gravgun I tested
22:01 gravgun Had a bad day afterwards
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22:02 RealBadAngel with some little code one could make internet radio mods for mt
22:03 gravgun RealBadAngel: MT may support them C++-wise, but how does one do that Lua-wise?
22:06 khonkhortisan os.execute
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22:06 AgentFire Jeija: Yeah the carts mod
22:19 kaeza <RealBadAngel> mt is capable of playing audio streams since ages, just nobody used that feature
22:20 kaeza software sound generation/tone generation/whatever it is called would be awesome
22:20 kaeza maybe not...
22:21 kaeza also, MOD music, because fuck MIDI
22:21 MinetestBot [git] jeija@mesecons.net -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix crafting with the default mesecon wire fc4d675 http://git.io/_3m-Aw (2014-11-22T23:20:29+01:00)
22:21 PenguinDad Minetest: Now with builtin additive and subtractive synthesis!
22:23 kaeza also, playing sounds at different pitches/frequencies/whatever
22:23 kaeza there is tons of functionality for graphics, but almost none for sounds :(
22:23 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx are you implementing music for Minetest?
22:23 kilbith kaeza: eventually like a cee-bee ?
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22:25 kilbith hmm, don't know how it's called in english
22:25 kaeza the what?
22:25 kilbith trying to find the good name
22:25 kilbith citizen-band radio
22:26 kaeza ah :P
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22:26 kilbith it already exist online
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22:27 kilbith you can listen private conversation with that
22:30 kaeza suddenly: MinetestOS 0.4.15, now with built-in support for VNC!
22:34 PenguinDad kaeza: MT Studio: The only DAW with a block based piano roll! :P
22:34 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx MinetestOS exists?
22:34 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx o.0
22:34 kaeza :D
22:36 VanessaE xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx: yeah, it uses emacs as its kernel
22:36 * VanessaE hides
22:38 ElectronLibre VanessaE: And gcc, g++, lua an json as its drivers?
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22:39 VanessaE heh
22:40 PenguinDad and MinetestOS is of course written Emacs Lisp
22:40 jin_xi or write cpp compiler in elisp then compile emacs with it
22:41 VanessaE bbl
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22:43 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx lol
22:43 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx but I have recently thought about it, that a minetest OS would be a good idea
22:44 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx you could use Chests as Folders, and Nodes / Items as Files :)
22:44 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx And Systemdaemons would be mobs
22:45 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx system notifications would be spoken by a guard
22:45 xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx NPCs
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22:53 Megaf Does Hybrid Dog joins this server?
22:53 Megaf channel*
22:55 PenguinDad Megaf: yes under the name w_laenger afaik
22:58 Megaf oh
22:58 Megaf ok
22:58 Megaf And whats Krock's github name?
22:59 kilbith smalljoker
23:00 Megaf Oh, at least I knew that
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23:21 Megaf Ok, I do need help now
23:21 Megaf https://github.com/Megaf/minetest-mod-meseco​ns/blob/master/mesecons_mese_fence/init.lua
23:25 Megaf Yep, that too
23:25 Megaf I wish Jeija still here
23:26 btoothpick Greets
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23:33 Megaf done
23:33 Megaf fixed
23:33 Megaf missing commas...
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23:51 Megaf !seen w_laenger
23:51 MinetestBot Megaf: w_laenger was last seen at 2014-06-13 15:30:43 UTC on #minetest
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23:59 Megaf VanessaE: So, in my conducting fences mesecons mod, they were called mesecons_random:conductingfence

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