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00:00 Jordach marktraceur, i run a secondary linux vm for fun, and as a MT server i can remotely control from outside the house as a VPS
00:00 marktraceur Oh cool.
00:01 Jordach why am i not getting onto the three skill trees and the three sub-skill trees
00:01 Jordach tl;dr i made an MMORPG style player progression system for players
00:02 marktraceur Cool!
00:02 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=159721#p159721
00:02 Jordach made an actual write up
00:06 Jordach oak door https://cdn.mediacru.sh/B1JuuzUtIcER.png
00:09 JohnnyComeL8ly Jordach: Why don't you run a Linux machine and remotely connect to it from your Winbox?
00:09 Jordach JohnnyComeL8ly, it's running on my second screen
00:11 JohnnyComeL8ly I meant, why not get a separate hardware set (you probably have it) and run Linux on that in the way that I described.
00:12 Jordach JohnnyComeL8ly, there are somethings i may need win for
00:17 Megaf Jordach: you can have like, several VirtualBox VMs
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00:18 Megaf each one running on one VNC port
00:18 Megaf and then very old computers could be used, even diskless
00:19 Megaf botting a very minimal linux system over the network
00:19 Megaf just enough to run X.org and a VNC client
00:19 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes, exactly! I was googling the terms...
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00:22 JohnnyComeL8ly Googling for the terms... I knew, but I forgot.
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00:29 Megaf JohnnyComeL8ly: X.org isnt even actually needed
00:29 Megaf there is a VNC client that runs wihtout X
00:29 Megaf directvnc
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02:44 paigegirl hi people its paigegirl on lap top:)
02:45 paigegirl helllllloooooooooo peeps?!
02:46 paigegirl anyone here at all?
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02:46 paigegirl hi storm<3
02:47 paigegirl im on laptop no winzip so no minetest
02:48 paigegirl storm helo?
02:51 paigegirl hellllooooo?
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02:53 jhcole can anyone tell me if is it normal for the 'Item textures...' loading screen to take a few minutes?
02:54 stormchaser3000 oh hi paingegirl
02:54 stormchaser3000 paigegirl*
02:55 stormchaser3000 sorry
02:55 stormchaser3000 the n key is next to the g
03:07 paigegirl its ok sorry i was watching videos XD
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03:23 JohnnyComeL8ly I tried installing a newer version, but I guess it was already the newest version. I booted into safe mode uninstalled the driver and rebooted on being prompted to do so, after the restart I installed the "newer" version, but I guess since the installer could handle multiple chipset driver installations that it had different versions for different chipsets and so it ended up installing the same version as before.
03:27 JohnnyComeL8ly I guess if my driver is whacked, then I can't do anything to fix it, but if however, it is my hardware... well, then I can't even make the team on that one.  You guys... have any more ideas?
03:28 JohnnyComeL8ly I should probably just not use this old thing...
03:29 JohnnyComeL8ly Wait, did someone mention that there might be a bug in the IIricht thingy (whatever it's called)?
03:31 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll be afk.
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04:22 JohnnyComeL8ly So guys, I can't remember all that was said, but did someone "conclude" that I have an OS problem or a driver problem? Or is it my dead_as_a_bony_koopa iGPU?
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05:07 zBuilder hello
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05:26 OldCoder When I drop an item, the block spins. How long is it supposed to spin for?
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05:43 VanessaE forever.
05:43 OldCoder Um
05:43 OldCoder Isn't that odd?
05:43 VanessaE nope.
05:43 OldCoder What does it mean?
05:44 VanessaE that's normal behavior of dropped items.
05:44 OldCoder What does it mean?
05:44 * OldCoder is curious
05:44 VanessaE nothing.  it just means it's a dropped item. an entity you can pick up.
05:44 OldCoder All right. Seems weird.
05:44 OldCoder But if you "place" an object
05:44 VanessaE (rather than a solid block you have to dig)
05:44 OldCoder it will not spin, right?
05:44 VanessaE right
05:45 VanessaE because it's a different thing
05:45 OldCoder BTW I will be running with about 120 mods now
05:45 OldCoder Is that enough?
05:45 VanessaE a dropped item can represent a whole stack
05:45 OldCoder Ah
05:45 VanessaE I'd say so yeah
05:45 OldCoder But I need more
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05:45 OldCoder VanessaE, my latest patch for the network problem is the only one that will work
05:45 VanessaE glad it works
05:45 VanessaE better pull-request it then
05:45 OldCoder Yes
05:46 OldCoder Unless Sapier returns
05:46 VanessaE better to try to /msg him
05:46 VanessaE but pull request anyway
05:46 VanessaE meanwhile, I'm off to bed
05:46 OldCoder Yes
05:46 OldCoder Night
05:47 VanessaE night :)
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07:30 stormchaser3000 oh dear
07:30 stormchaser3000 well the commit that was supposed to fix the wield item glitch didn't wpr
07:30 stormchaser3000 work*
07:30 stormchaser3000 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1844
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08:19 stormchaser3000 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1844
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08:57 kaeza http://bash.org/?673372
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09:15 nore kaeza, plol
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09:19 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&amp;t=10366&amp;p=161968#p161968
09:19 Calinou nore, nice villages :)
09:20 nore thanks :)
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09:40 Calinou http://baiqiang.github.io/2048-3d/
09:40 Calinou this is definitely for paramat
09:44 kilbith idk why use weechat for the same ram-usage as hexchat, but with much less comfort
09:44 kilbith irssi is 3x lighter
09:45 marktraceur kilbith: Because you can run weechat in a screen
09:45 marktraceur And it's more configurable than hexchat
09:45 kilbith in a screen ?
09:46 kilbith in the console you meant ?
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09:55 Calinou yes
09:55 Calinou command-line support is important for some use cases, like SSH
09:55 Calinou (X forwarding is slow, should be used only on LAN)
09:55 kilbith but irssi is 3x lighter in this purpose
09:56 Calinou weechat is more featureful?
09:56 kilbith idk
10:02 nore Krock: was I fast enough? ;)
10:02 Krock nore, wow. lightspeed.
10:02 Krock thanks
10:03 nore I didn't test it though
10:03 nore np
10:03 Krock it should work
10:04 Krock ...and it does
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10:11 Calinou mg is quite fast
10:11 nore well, it doesn't do much
10:11 Calinou I think the move to a Lua mapgen by default should be considered from time to time
10:11 Calinou nore, what's missing?
10:11 Calinou there are caves, trees, biomes, villages, …
10:11 Krock floatlands!
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10:11 nore ah indeed
10:12 nore I also need to code the default oregen
10:12 nore right now it uses its own, which is quite special (ore veins)
10:12 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=161973#p161973
10:12 Krock it rotates
10:13 nore ..
10:13 nore Calinou, but if you want to merge it into Carbone, I'd be happy :)
10:13 Calinou would break worlds :/
10:13 Calinou and I'd need default ore generatin support
10:14 nore I could do it
10:14 Calinou Krock, v6 doesn't have these, so no functionality is lost there
10:14 Krock Calinou, right.
10:14 nore and about worlds, perhaps some special file that is created at world creation
10:14 Calinou also cave generation needs to be more interesting
10:14 nore together with the version of mg used
10:14 Calinou currently it seems to be mostly rays in the ground
10:14 nore yes, that's one of the things
10:14 Krock eased caves are interesting and look much more antural than the non-eased
10:15 Krock *Natural
10:15 Calinou but it shouldn't be too slow ;)
10:15 nore well, cave generation is actually the same as ores
10:15 nore it air registered as an ore
10:15 Krock lol
10:15 Krock so, no gravel in caves?
10:15 Calinou tweak the values? make more veins generate, but smaller ones
10:15 Calinou Krock, randomly generate gravel, dirt using ores
10:15 Calinou like I do in Carbone already
10:16 nore https://github.com/Novatux/m​g/blob/master/oredesc.lua#L1
10:16 Krock ah
10:16 nore Calinou, you mean, about ores?
10:16 Calinou what about underground water and lava lakes?
10:16 Calinou nore, no, the air veins (= caves)
10:16 nore ah
10:16 nore I could do that too
10:17 Calinou they should turn more (if possible), be more common but less long
10:17 nore perhaps some large-scale ones too
10:17 Calinou (height seems OK)
10:17 nore turn more: easy
10:17 Arcanum_za Hmmm - I've been playing with it a bit more. Apparently the reason direct3d8 crashes is because somebody forgot to compile it in. Also I made a reg file that speeds it up. Still crashes with an Access violation if there's an unknown block around though.
10:17 Calinou occasional large ones, yes
10:17 nore if you want to try
10:17 Calinou the video drivers are in Irrlicht
10:17 nore you can reduce sizen and sizedev
10:17 Krock Trixar_za, which build are you using?
10:18 nore now, the length of the tunnels are 100+-30
10:18 nore you can increase the turnangle parameters too
10:18 nore and reduce segment length
10:18 Trixar_za The first Windows build from the website.
10:19 Trixar_za The non-MinGW one if that helps :P
10:19 Trixar_za 32bit
10:19 Krock Trixar_za, so the 32 bit stable. Non-MinGW is MSVC
10:19 Trixar_za Yeah
10:20 nore there, try that: https://gist.github.com/No​vatux/2a8b663fe7475bd7e03c
10:20 Krock hmm, could you test an in-developement build from the forums?
10:20 Trixar_za Sure
10:20 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42 blockmen and I (don't know about sfan5 support the direct3d8 video driver)
10:21 Krock and when you still get the access violation there, then you need to use direct3d9 or even opengl
10:21 sfan5 my 64-bit builds have d3d9
10:22 Krock sfan5, but no 3d8?
10:22 sfan5 I'm pretty sure they don't
10:22 sfan5 but you can try
10:22 sfan5 why would you use d3d8 instead of 9?
10:23 Trixar_za Lack of Access Violation crashes with Unknown blocks?
10:25 Krock it shouldn't crash because of unknown nodes
10:26 Trixar_za It's the only way I can replicate it
10:26 Trixar_za I have a bad map - missing blocks - I turn to look at it and boom, crash
10:26 Trixar_za And I just made a song reference. I'm so sorry.
10:28 Trixar_za Krock: I'm trying your three day old build
10:29 Trixar_za bbiab (rebooting sucks)
10:29 Krock Trixar_za, please note: blocks are 16x16x16 nodes. Also, the direct3d8 and 9 works fine in my build when you've got a good video driver
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10:41 Trixar_za Yeah, it's crashariffic
10:41 Trixar_za Just looking up and into the rendering distance gives an access violation error :/
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10:44 twoelk|2 Trixar_za: are those areas edited?
10:45 Trixar_za No, i just created them. Also Krock, include minetest_game and minimal - I had to add them myself :P
10:46 twoelk yep Krock, the Tutorials says the default game is included. Don't confuse newbies
10:50 twoelk Trixar_za: have you tried creating a world with single-node? It shouldn't load any nodes so it shouldn't crash. Not very playable though
10:50 Krock mhm ok
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11:45 Megaf Hi everyone
11:46 kilbith hi
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12:15 nore Megaf, could you please test pipeworks? I should have fixed the filter thing
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13:42 twoelk !up digitalaudioconcepts.com:30000
13:42 MinetestBot twoelk: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
13:43 twoelk !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005
13:43 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 is up (334ms)
13:43 twoelk !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000
13:43 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30000 is up (230ms)
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13:46 twoelk hm, can't connect
13:47 twoelk !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000
13:47 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30000 is up (217ms)
13:47 twoelk strange
13:47 twoelk what does MinetestBot check?
13:48 marktraceur return server_name + ' is up (' + random.randrange(50,500) + 'ms)'
13:49 marktraceur One-line functions are always best.
13:49 ElectronLibre (or return name + ": " + error_message[random.randrange(0,10)] )
13:49 twoelk still can't connect to VE-creative so what Mintestbot sys seems not relevant :-(
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13:50 marktraceur Yeah, MinetestBot is an asshole.
13:50 Krock I can't connect to :30000 too
13:50 Krock it's not listed on the public list
13:51 rubenwardy MinetestBot creates a fake Minetest client, and connects to the server
13:51 rubenwardy It handshakes, but doesn't join as a player.
13:51 rubenwardy iirc
13:52 twoelk is she dos attacking it?
13:52 Krock yes, it sends the "Hello world" message
13:53 sfan5 twoelk: MinetestBot only test whether the protocol works
13:55 twoelk so something at port 30000 is responding?
13:57 sfan5 foobar is up == something speaking the basic minetest protocol is responding on that port
13:59 twoelk so the server seems rather locked than down, or server running but world not responsive - whatever
14:02 twoelk sfan5: btw using your latest 32build the cmd window takes a lot longer to close than before while the gui closes as fast as usual
14:02 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:05 * Krock throws his gsmapper build at twoelk
14:08 twoelk yeah seen that, have been using the last one for months not wanting to migrate and as soon as I play with sfan's latest you come up with a new gsmapper build
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14:09 twoelk (have allready downloaded it and am installing)
14:09 Krock https://gist.github.com/discover spammers...
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14:14 PenguinDad Too much unicode for me
14:29 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BIJzr8rTqrTd.png
14:30 rubenwardy That hotbar looks like OSX
14:30 rubenwardy ish
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14:39 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
14:39 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
14:42 Jordach Sokomine, reloaded the VM
14:47 lairsdragon !up mc.weinreich.org 30000
14:47 MinetestBot mc.weinreich.org:30000 is up (204ms)
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14:55 Krock > mc
14:56 PenguinDad Krock: mc == mesecoins :P
14:57 Krock yes.
14:59 lairsdragon Once upon the time it was a MC server, then a dark DMCA Dragon arose and took the Bukkit with it. Now I'm searching for a new kingdom :-)
15:00 Jordach lairsdragon, i'm trying to singlehandedly make an FTB like subgame#
15:02 twoelk lairsdragon: 76 servers known to http://servers.minetest.net/ with some 70 up at the moment and others not shown on the list
15:04 lairsdragon Yea, I've seen some of these Servers
15:05 VanessaE make your new kingdom on my Dreambuilder servers :)
15:07 Krock or on one of my servers :)
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15:08 VanessaE I'll give you a massive TAX BREAK!
15:08 VanessaE ;)
15:08 VanessaE haha
15:12 twoelk VanessaE: is creative up?
15:12 Krock !tell Calinou the brick nodes are too expensive. already getting 4 bricks is hard
15:12 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
15:12 VanessaE twoelk: it should be?
15:13 VanessaE crap.
15:13 VanessaE not again
15:13 kaeza that means no
15:13 kaeza well, too late :P
15:13 VanessaE it's deadlocked at 100%
15:14 Krock R.I.P
15:14 twoelk it responded to MinetestBot though
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15:17 VanessaE last thing anyone did was cheapie dug a tree and then ...something, a deployer maybe?...  placed a sapling.
15:17 VanessaE then the server locked up.,
15:18 twoelk hopefully not near my serverkiller tree;-P
15:19 VanessaE no
15:20 VanessaE it was cheapie's tree machine but this little thing can't possibly lock a server up.
15:21 VanessaE the little one at (-798,57,-400)
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15:27 kaeza plol, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=10&amp;t=10576&amp;p=161979
15:27 kaeza Krock++
15:29 kaeza this I mean: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=10&amp;t=10576&amp;p=161979#p161973
15:30 PenguinDad Krock: it doesn't work this way -.-
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15:31 marktraceur kaeza: DuckDuckGo used to do things like that to me
15:31 marktraceur "reverse proxy in apache" would give me mirrored, backwards letters for "proxy in apache"
15:31 marktraceur "upside-down cake", well, you can guess
15:32 kaeza heh
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15:37 Jordach Krock++
15:39 rubenwardy Krock /= 0
15:39 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, error : you can't divide Krock by 0
15:40 PenguinDad Krock--
15:40 rubenwardy Krock is no longer defined. He is free.
15:40 kaeza rubenwardy--
15:40 rubenwardy So much ping
15:40 kaeza ShadowBot, karma rubenwardy
15:40 ShadowBot kaeza: Karma for "rubenwardy" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
15:40 PenguinDad rubenwardy: pong
15:40 kaeza >:D
15:41 PenguinDad ShadowBot: karma Krock
15:41 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Karma for "Krock" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1.
15:41 rubenwardy Oh, new feature
15:41 * ElectronLibre loves this bot.
15:41 rubenwardy I am ignored by shadowbot, anyway
15:41 rubenwardy I insulted her math library
15:41 Krock omg wow. I got marma
15:41 Krock karma stuff
15:42 * sfan5 meows
15:42 * ElectronLibre meows at sfan5
15:42 twoelk does giving fish to cats increase karma?
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15:43 Krock maybe.
15:43 ElectronLibre Let's check.
15:44 * ElectronLibre gives sfan5 a fish <°((((><
15:44 ElectronLibre ShadowBot: karma sfan5
15:44 ShadowBot ElectronLibre: sfan5 has neutral karma.
15:44 PenguinDad ShadowBot: karma ElectronLibre
15:44 ShadowBot PenguinDad: ElectronLibre has neutral karma.
15:44 ElectronLibre No, it doesn't increase or dicrease karma. Fish are neutral.
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15:54 Jordach sfan5++
15:55 sfan5 Jordach++
15:55 Jordach sfan5++
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15:55 marktraceur marktraceur++
15:55 ShadowBot marktraceur: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
15:55 sfan5 Jordach++
15:55 Jordach sfan5++
15:55 marktraceur ShadowBot: Bastard.
15:55 PenguinDad sfan5++
15:56 marktraceur Jordach--
15:56 marktraceur Jordach--
15:56 marktraceur sfan5--
15:56 marktraceur sfan5--
15:56 marktraceur sfan5--
15:56 marktraceur was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
15:56 Jordach zing
15:56 PenguinDad lol
15:56 sfan5 wat
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15:56 sfan5 Jordach++
15:56 Jordach [ ] rekt [./] shrekt
15:56 marktraceur Douche.
15:56 ElectronLibre (It's karma battle right now, isn't it?)
15:56 PenguinDad ShadowBot: karma sfan5
15:56 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Karma for "sfan5" has been increased 4 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 1.
15:57 rubenwardy rubenwardy--
15:58 zlsa marktraceur--
15:58 ElectronLibre ShadowBot apparently ignores you rubenwardy :/
15:59 rubenwardy Yes
15:59 rubenwardy I insulted her math library
15:59 zlsa zlsa++
15:59 ShadowBot zlsa: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
15:59 rubenwardy So ShadowNinja ignored me
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16:00 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
16:00 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (935ms)
16:00 zlsa !up google.com
16:01 MinetestBot google.com:30000 seems to be down
16:01 zlsa ah, it only tries port 30000
16:01 zlsa is there a #minetestbot or something?
16:02 PenguinDad zlsa: there's ##minetestbot
16:02 zlsa thanks
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16:08 * ElectronLibre_ hates his network connection
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16:21 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ot4i5iWMiAzA.png
16:22 * ElectronLibre likes the doors with skulls, beautiful work.
16:23 Jordach ElectronLibre, the wood used is from a biome that's literally pure evil and spawns surface masters, a weaker version of the dungeon master
16:23 PenguinDad such wood many variation very door wow
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16:25 Jordach birch doors have a face when paired up
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16:31 kaeza Jordach, sounds like the Corruption/Crimson/Hallows (maybe not the Hallows)
16:32 Calinou rubenwardy, all Carbone mods are free/libre, I won't put anything that's not free/libre
16:32 Calinou so it's not “the majority” ;)
16:32 rubenwardy I meant in the minetest community, not in Carbon
16:32 rubenwardy e
16:32 Jordach sfan5++
16:33 Calinou ah
16:38 kilbith !seen BlockMen
16:38 MinetestBot kilbith: blockmen was last seen at 2014-11-09 16:16:22 UTC on #minetest
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16:45 WSDguy2014 I need to help, Minetest
16:46 WSDguy2014 i cant loging with Minetest Forums
16:47 ElectronLibre Have you created an account on the forum? What's its name?
16:49 WSDguy2014 I need help to loging my nickname: WSDguy2014
16:49 Jordach have you activated your account]
16:50 Jordach because you'll need to actually read your emails from your provider
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16:53 WSDguy2014 can i have email from my nickname: "WSDguy2014" to giving my password
16:54 Jordach wat
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16:54 Jordach login to your registered email
16:55 VanessaE WSDguy2014: https://forum.minetest.net​/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword
16:56 VanessaE click that, and then go to the place you use to receive email for the email address you used when you created your forum account.
16:56 VanessaE wait a few minutes and then look for the password-reset email.
16:56 VanessaE there will be instructions there on how to log back in.
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17:00 WSDguy2014 now i can't give my password: The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.
17:00 VanessaE WSDguy2014: then you never created a forum account to begin with
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17:00 VanessaE create one now.  use an email address that you check frequently.
17:01 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.php?mode=register
17:04 proller Jordach, because wat ?
17:05 Jordach go back to scamming people on steam, playing CS:GO and Dota 2
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17:14 WSDguy2014 ahhh, im going loging my nickname with: "WSD2014"
17:21 WSDguy2014 finaly i finished Register and then loging, but just hapening
17:22 WSDguy2014 now i cant loging like this "You have specified an incorrect username. Please check your username and try again. If you continue to have problems please contact the Board Administrator".
17:26 WSDguy2014 i have Windows 7 with laptop, im playing a Minetest 0.4.10 and now i cant play Single Player without saving world :'(
17:27 PenguinDad WSDguy2014: what's the problem with that?
17:28 WSDguy2014 i created world, im playing with sometimes later and cannot be saving world
17:29 WSDguy2014 Single Player is broken
17:30 WSDguy2014 Must be fix this saving world
17:33 WSDguy2014 you can be fixed with saving world?
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17:34 Jordach WSDguy2014, is the directory read only, eg program files where it was placed
17:35 WSDguy2014 im going to play Single Player with test problems
17:36 * Jordach pokes Sokomine
17:38 VanessaE WSDguy2014: are you trying to play the game from within the zip file?
17:38 WSDguy2014 yes. WinWAR
17:38 VanessaE that's why.
17:38 VanessaE you can't do that.
17:39 VanessaE you have to extract the zip first, then play it from OUTSIDE of winrar etc.
17:39 VanessaE i.e. close winrar and launch it from your desktop or a file manager or so
17:39 VanessaE otherwise you're just trying to save the world inside the zip
17:39 VanessaE which is impossible.
17:39 VanessaE (zip files are basically read-only in this case)
17:40 WSDguy2014 File manager?
17:40 raffahacks Hi
17:40 VanessaE you know, "explorer" it used to be called (not Internet Explorer)
17:41 VanessaE the thing that pops up when you click "My Computer" or a folder on your desktop
17:41 VanessaE or whatever it is Windows calls those icons now
17:41 VanessaE the program that pops up a window listing the contents of a folder is called a "file manager"
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17:46 WSDguy2014 now i played without zip. but i got error: Some exception: "Cannot open database file"
17:47 VanessaE did you fully extract the zip?  did you make sure you have permissions to read and write all files and folders there?
17:48 WSDguy2014 report this stupid bug without saving world
17:49 VanessaE WSDguy2014: it's an OS or folder issue on your end
17:49 VanessaE this is not a problem for the rest of us
17:51 VanessaE WSDguy2014: you have to fully extract the zip file to a folder where you, as a regular non-privileged user have read, write and execute privileges, then close winrar and play from there
17:51 VanessaE that is how the game works.
17:51 VanessaE it is not a click-and-play game or click-and-install.
17:51 VanessaE (though it probably needs to be made so some day)
17:54 stormchaser3000 um how do i update my openGL driver on linux?
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17:54 raffahacks Depends
17:54 stormchaser3000 Enke: do you know how to update OpenGL drivers for linux
17:55 Enke Newp
17:55 PenguinDad stormchaser3000: what gpu do you have?
17:56 hisforever How Do I get rid of Tar block I'm on the digatilaudio sim
17:56 stormchaser3000 PenguinDad: um i don't know how to answer that but i am going to answer intel
17:56 raffahacks Is that driver a package or a kernel module?
17:56 raffahacks Try #linux
17:57 WSDguy2014 oh, i can play Single Player?!?!? Seriosly?!?!?
17:57 PenguinDad stormchaser3000: on intel gpus you won't get anything newer than 3.x atm
17:58 stormchaser3000 DARN
17:58 stormchaser3000 well i guess i will have to put up with that darned wield item glitch
17:58 VanessaE WSDguy2014: if you do what I said, yes, you can.
17:59 * Jordach pokes Sokomine
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18:23 WSDguy2014 Well, i cant play Single Player without saving world i love play single player :(
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18:24 Krock WSDguy2014, use dummy backend
18:24 VanessaE WSDguy2014: I told you, don't play from inside the zip file.  extract it to your desktop
18:25 VanessaE singleplayer is supposed to save the world
18:27 WSDguy2014 i cant play single player without zip file i got error
18:27 VanessaE then you're doing it wrong
18:28 WSDguy2014 im playing with Windows 7
18:28 kilbith switch to linux then
18:28 ShadowNinja Krock: He means he can't play WITH saving, not without saving.
18:29 Krock that's brainfuck
18:29 ShadowNinja BTW, I'm working on a patch that makes the SQLite3 database schema saner.
18:29 Krock compability alert!
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18:31 WSDguy2014 yeah, im playing only multiplayer not single player :(
18:31 WSDguy2014 im soo sad for play this single player
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18:36 WSDguy2014 i got error from reason with out zip file:An unhandled exception occurred: Cannot open database file
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18:36 VanessaE then you wrote all the files as read-only or corrupt
18:37 VanessaE you did not truly extract the files
18:37 VanessaE maybe you created shortcuts
18:37 WSDguy2014 no
18:38 Krock WSDguy2014, maybe you were using a leveldb database, which is not supported by the current client
18:38 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default and flowers: only run on-generated functions in mgv6. Remove indev ore definitions e71b71c http://git.io/fCnauQ (2014-11-16T19:38:04+01:00)
18:39 Calinou cool
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18:46 WSDguy2014 but how to play single player with saving?
18:46 * VanessaE wanders off
18:49 Calinou WSDguy2014, extract the Minetest .zip somewhere
18:49 Calinou (outside of Program Files; the desktop is a good place)
18:52 WSDguy2014 ok
18:55 hisforever do I get rid of black fog with this //set air air?
18:56 kilbith sometimes
18:56 kilbith and it's just //set air
18:56 Amaz Use //replace air air
18:57 Amaz //set air will replace all the things in the region with air.
18:57 hisforever with just //set air it removes buildings as well as the black fog[
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18:58 hisforever but I think // set air air replaces just the air
18:59 kilbith ^ read above
19:01 hisforever ty Kilbith
19:01 kilbith thanks Amaz instead
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19:04 * sfan5 meows at Jordan4ibanez
19:04 Jordan4ibanez Hey sfan5!
19:04 sfan5 hi
19:06 Jordan4ibanez How are you today?
19:06 sfan5 good
19:13 WSDguy2014 i cant play single player with saving
19:15 Krock WSDguy2014, please add a "break;" to your "while(true)" loop.
19:16 WSDguy2014 you can help with how fix saving world in video?
19:16 kilbith Krock : lol
19:17 Krock WSDguy2014, wtf. get TeamViewer if you want to be controlled
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19:17 WSDguy2014 TeamViewer?
19:19 kaeza WSDguy2014, where did you extract the Minetest ZIP file?
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19:19 WSDguy2014 yes
19:19 kaeza ·_·
19:19 exio4 kaeza: p ∨ q?
19:20 kaeza the what?
19:20 PenguinDad yes is a very good place to extract it :P
19:20 WSDguy2014 i searched a TeamViewer
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19:21 WSDguy2014 with a google
19:21 ElectronLibre_ (WSDguy2014, do you still need help?)
19:21 WSDguy2014 yes
19:22 WSDguy2014 i cant play single player with saving
19:22 ElectronLibre_ Ok. Still with your account on the forums?
19:22 ElectronLibre_ Oh, I see.
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19:27 ElectronLibre_ (Rest.In.Pizza my poor network connection...)
19:28 exio4 I wouldn't rest in pizza
19:28 exio4 I would eat it
19:29 PenguinDad rip in peace ElectronLibre's internet connection
19:30 ElectronLibre I wouldn't eat a wifi chip.. So don't try to do it exio4. x)
19:30 exio4 I would, maybe it tastes like cheese
19:30 ElectronLibre PenguinDad, recursive acronym, interesting thing.
19:32 ElectronLibre exio4, I think it tastes more like when you bite a plugged wire.. If I remember well nobody has ever survived to say if it's true.
19:33 exio4 that is because I haven't tried yet
19:34 ElectronLibre Don't try please. If you treasures your life please don't do that x).
19:34 * sfan5 licks exio4
19:35 * ElectronLibre meows at sfan5
19:36 * kaeza hugs ElectronLibre...6
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19:37 * PenguinDad meows at kaeza
19:37 * ElectronLibre removes the 6 at the end of the action, print it out and place it over his fireplace
19:37 exio4 nah ElectronLibre
19:37 exio4 my life is worthless
19:38 kaeza he likes FP, so yes, worthless
19:38 * kaeza hides
19:38 exio4 between FP and Java
19:38 ElectronLibre Mine too, but i'm to young to leave this world.
19:38 exio4 kaeza: would you write a 400 LOC program in F# or 8000 in Java?
19:39 kaeza 1000 in C
19:39 ElectronLibre (Over 9000 in brainfuck.)
19:40 exio4 lol
19:40 exio4 kaeza: it ain't going to be 1000
19:45 blaise exio4: are you stating that what has been done in 8k lines of java can be done in 400 lines of fortran?
19:45 exio4 F sharp
19:45 exio4 a functional programming language
19:45 blaise b minor?
19:45 sfan5 F stump
19:45 sfan5 a non-functional programming language
19:45 blaise middle C ?
19:45 exio4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_S​harp_%28programming_language%29
19:46 * blaise sings "Me Me Me Me!!"
19:47 blaise I'd rather code in fortran or cobol
19:47 exio4 uh, why
19:47 * ElectronLibre holds Lua and Python in his hands and is gonna pick up F#
19:47 blaise f sharp looks disgusting
19:47 Calinou Cobolstone
19:47 kaeza lol
19:47 exio4 blaise: how?
19:47 Krock cobold stone
19:48 exio4 blaise: ever touched Haskell?
19:48 PenguinDad blaise: I prefer D minor :P
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19:50 exio4 it is a beautiful language
19:50 exio4 http://learnyouahaskell.com/chapters
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19:51 exio4 blaise: why is it looking disgusting?
19:51 exio4 it is OCaml in the .NET
19:52 exio4 for a functional language, that is better than Scala
19:52 SylvieLorxu "This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License because I couldn't find a license with an even longer name."
19:52 blaise salsa?
19:52 * blaise grabs his chips
19:53 SylvieLorxu "Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-NoDerivatives 3.0 Unported" would be slightly longer (and also even worse)
19:53 exio4 http://learnyouahaskell.com/in​troduction#about-this-tutorial o/
19:53 exio4 \o/ *
19:54 blaise in the past 15 hours I've had 5 visitors to my server
19:54 blaise isn't that sad?
19:55 Jordach !tw 534011965132120064
19:55 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/twitter​/status/534011965132120064
19:56 Jordach !tw https://twitter.com/peterritc​hie/status/534011965132120064
19:56 MinetestBot MT: Replace a semicolon (;) with a greek question mark (;) in your friend's C# code and watch them pull their hair out over the syntax error (@peterritchie)
19:56 blaise in the light of having no turkey day decor, I guess I'll start decorating for xmas
19:56 blaise MinetestBot: lmao
19:56 exio4 >minetestbot
19:57 blaise I suppose the same could be done with pascal
19:57 ElectronLibre Jordach : This is définitivly the greatest idea I've seen today :D (changing semicolon by greek question mark)
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19:59 Calinou ;;;;;;
19:59 Calinou they are not the same
19:59 exio4 thatisthejoke.exe
19:59 blaise and in light of everyone saying cobblestone is ugly, I've replaced all cobblestone blocks with concrete blocks..
20:00 blaise ;;
20:00 ElectronLibre That's pure evil.
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20:16 Krock players always want blocks. but that's impossible to give thhem
20:16 ElectronLibre Which kind of blocks?
20:21 Out`Of`Control i give away blocks all the time
20:22 Krock ElectronLibre, there are only mapblocks
20:22 Krock Out`Of`Control, oh. how that?
20:22 Krock you can't give away 16^3 nodes
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20:23 Out`Of`Control depends on server
20:23 Out`Of`Control Krock:  why 16^3?
20:23 Krock blocks are 16x16x16 nodes
20:24 Krock so, going off now
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23:15 MrBeNNy SP are you around?
23:24 Megaf hm, Minetest client have a memory leak here
23:24 Megaf it will easily use 3GB + of RAM
23:24 Megaf yet another memory leak =/
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