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00:02 JohnnyComeL8ly Hi, can we talk here of that stuff, VanessaE?
00:02 VanessaE there's nothing else to say :P
00:02 VanessaE I'm out of ideas
00:02 JohnnyComeL8ly The one guy was saying that he remembers an issue already being open.
00:03 VanessaE yeah, but I wouldn't be able to find it either
00:04 JohnnyComeL8ly I've been looking, and I think he's remembering someone else like me that mentioned it, but didn't follow through with it.
00:05 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm going to label it "Incorrect inventory images displayed" on github, sounds good?
00:05 VanessaE yeah
00:05 VanessaE but if there IS another issue already like it, it'll get marked as a duplicate and closed
00:06 JohnnyComeL8ly I looked, but I didn't see one.
00:09 JohnnyComeL8ly https://github.com/minetest/minetest is where I should do it, right?
00:09 Fritigern If it gets marked as a dupe, then it shouldmention the link to the issue that it is a dupe of. Revealing the original issue and allowing you to make comments on it
00:10 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, makes sense. (where though...)
00:11 VanessaE that's the correct repo yes
00:11 VanessaE issues -> New Issue
00:11 marktraceur Wait, we aren't supposed to download minetest from http://gi7hub.ru/minetest/really-minetest ?
00:12 Fritigern marktraceur: at link does not even resolve
00:12 Fritigern *that
00:12 marktraceur Yes, I know. Look up the word "trolling". It's next to my picture.
00:13 Fritigern Oh, haha. I am so amused, i almost forgot to laugh
00:13 marktraceur Fritigern: Remember to laugh
00:14 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay.
00:15 JohnnyComeL8ly Quick q: What is the screenshot hotkey?
00:17 JohnnyComeL8ly I looked it up... F12
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00:21 Fritigern I would like to bind the screenshot key to another key, F12 is already taken by Yakuake for me
00:21 Fritigern Unfortunately, the key config does not give me that option
00:22 Fritigern Neither does minetest.conf, unless i have overlooked it
00:22 JohnnyComeL8ly I pressed F12... Where is my picture going to be?
00:22 Fritigern JohnnyComeL8ly: I don;t know, but i would assume either in ~/Pictures, or in the Minetest folder.
00:25 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, I found it in the bin folder.
00:25 Fritigern Hmmm... No good. I feel that there should be a config op[tion for that
00:27 Fritigern Okay, i stand very VERY ccorrected on everything i said about screenshots so far. Yes, it is possible to change the keymap for the screenshot. And it is also possible to change the path in the conf
00:27 Fritigern keymap_screenshot = KEY_F12
00:28 Fritigern screenshot_path = <insert desired path>
00:28 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay.
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00:46 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, this is it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1838
00:46 JohnnyComeL8ly The first of this kind of stuff for me.
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00:53 Fritigern Since you mentioned the crafting grid (that's what it's called), you may want to include a picture of that too. Also, do mention if you have any mods installed, devs like to know that too.
00:53 Fritigern Other than that, looks great!
00:54 JohnnyComeL8ly It is vanilla.
00:54 Fritigern Don;t tell me that, put it in your bug report :-)
00:55 JohnnyComeL8ly The reason I didn't is because the items look messed up in either place the same... If I still should, then say so.
00:58 Fritigern I feel that you should. Because a dev would ask it too. Best to give them as much info as you can give them, so that they won;t have to ask. And if the info turns out to be not needed or irrelevant, then you still did as much as you could to help get the issue fixed
00:58 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, thanks.
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01:22 hisforever Hi where can I find blur print for buildings?
01:22 hisforever blue not blur lol
01:23 VanessaE blueprint?
01:24 VanessaE minetest-specific, idk.  real blueprints, .....well...google :)
01:31 hisforever minetest if possible I'm getting tired of the dane old build lol
01:32 hisforever I
01:33 hisforever VanessaE I want to thank you again for removing the trees And the land upgrade
01:35 VanessaE no probs.
01:35 VanessaE hey,
01:35 VanessaE was that bulldozer yours?
01:36 hisforever yes it was it was great
01:37 VanessaE did you get my message? :P
01:37 hisforever what message sorry
01:37 VanessaE I had to make changes to it...
01:37 hisforever understand
01:38 VanessaE those quarries you used triggered what I think is a server engine bug
01:38 VanessaE I removed them for now
01:38 VanessaE also I made some minor changes to the tubes so that they can properly dispose of excess materials
01:39 hisforever ty I was having trouble with that :)
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01:39 VanessaE you had a fair quantity of items just flowing back and forth through the tubes, going nowhere
01:39 hisforever sorry
01:39 VanessaE no worries
01:39 VanessaE until the devs fix the problem, please don't use quarries
01:40 VanessaE or at least, don't use so many in one place
01:40 hisforever I'' keep my face clean lol
01:42 hisforever I have 2 people that didn't have permissoon to move in my tower.
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02:28 Sokomine hisforever: my mg_villages mod comes with quite a lot of blueprints for buildings. though i'm thinking about testing the mod with other, new buildings as well
02:32 JohnnyComeL8ly One of you want to give criticism on this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1838
02:34 JohnnyComeL8ly As in, should I put some more info or something like that.
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02:59 Fritigern JohnnyComeL8ly: I think it looks good. You can make the debug stuffs look better by adding ``` on the line before and after the stuff.
02:59 Fritigern But that is purely cosmetic
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03:00 Fritigern BTW, i think that the new pics are better than the ones you had there first. It's a lot easier to see what the problem is
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03:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah, VanessaE to the rescue on the /time 12000
03:09 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm learning, so it helps to have help. :-P
03:24 Sokomine this happens if one screws up mapgen: https://mediacru.sh/Os0Sw5wDIyO9.jpg (my fault :-))
03:24 JohnnyComeL8ly I actually noticed that the icons were different even for the same setting that is supposedly a potential problem (preload_item_visuals).
03:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Fritigern: I think "```" is an escape sequence, or something like that... because it made [log] disapear when it was put before that; like, ```[log]
03:28 Fritigern It needs to be put before AND after it
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03:29 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes look at it now...
03:29 VanessaE JohnnyComeL8ly: just  ``` at the start and end
03:29 Fritigern Awesome! Doesn;t that log look a lot better?
03:29 VanessaE no [foo] tags
03:30 Fritigern VanessaE: He already did that. Looks good now
03:30 JohnnyComeL8ly No [log] you mean?
03:30 VanessaE correct.
03:30 VanessaE get rid of the [log] [/log] that you added
03:30 VanessaE certain qualifiers ARE allowed, but if you just write ``` without anything after it, it's treated as plaintext.
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03:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh yes, most pretty now! What are the "qualifiers?"
03:32 VanessaE https://github.com/github/linguist/bl​ob/master/lib/linguist/languages.yml  has a list of all the types of syntax highlighting that github can use
03:32 VanessaE (each line under "extensions" for a given language)
03:32 Fritigern Also have a look at https://guides.github.com/f​eatures/mastering-markdown/ after you have read VanessaE's link :-)
03:33 VanessaE so you could write ```lua and everything until the next ``` would be treated as and highlighted as Lua.
03:33 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, mine was just text, right?
03:33 VanessaE yeah
03:33 VanessaE logs are generally just plaintext, so ``` (with nothing after) is sufficient.
03:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok.
03:34 VanessaE gotta love github :)
03:35 JohnnyComeL8ly I guess!  Thanks for the reads!
03:37 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm going to have to make a note of those links.
03:45 JohnnyComeL8ly Wow, they almost have their own language going...
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03:45 JohnnyComeL8ly Those Github folk do.
03:46 JohnnyComeL8ly *folks
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07:30 ThatGraemeGuy anyone intimately familiar with pipeworks' injectors know if it would be possible to take item wear into account when adding items to filter?
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07:32 ThatGraemeGuy more specifically, technic's lava cans are implemented as 1 node with the level of fullness in the metadata
07:32 ThatGraemeGuy so you can't currently filter only empty cans for instance
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08:05 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Remove most exceptions from getNode() (and variants) 5b8855e http://git.io/GmXGJQ (2014-11-14T18:05:34+10:00)
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09:56 Fritigern I am about to pull out my hair! Does anyone know how to work with leaflet?
09:58 Fritigern I finally have the leaflet map to work... somewhat, but the order of the tiles is wrong! Also, i don;t know how to set the default view o a certain point on the map.
09:58 Fritigern Have a look at this, but do zoom out the moment you arrive. http://67.170.30.149/map.html
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10:09 Fritigern Amaz, do you have any experience with leaflet?
10:09 Amaz Non at all sorry.
10:09 Fritigern Darn
10:09 Amaz I don't even know what it is...
10:11 Fritigern It lets you have a map on a website. See http://67.170.30.149/map.html for what it does, and look at http://www.ayntest.net/pages/liberty-land-map.html for what i want it to do
10:11 Amaz Okay.
10:35 Fritigern So, Amaz, i'm sure you see my problem now
10:38 Amaz Yeah...
10:38 Amaz Sorry I can't help...
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11:23 Trixar_za Hey, is there any zombie survival servers?
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12:00 Zeno` Megaf_, have you tried with SN's example?
12:00 Zeno` It has not *directly* been addressed but it may have accidentally been addressed by my last push
12:02 Zeno` or something else. I'm just saying it because my last merge changed many of the (get)NoEx functions
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12:18 Megaf_ Zeno`: SN's?
12:18 hisforever clear
12:19 Megaf_ I'm worried that bug may cause problem saving the map
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12:25 Zeno` ShadowNinja's example in the bug report
12:27 Zeno` in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1556
12:27 Zeno` I don't know what to do about the server shutdown bug; I really can't track it down
12:27 Zeno` I could revert the commit that causes it I guess
12:27 Zeno` but that might make the person angry
12:28 Zeno` on the positive side the server state and map are most certainly saved before the segfault
12:32 Zeno` I actually don't think I could revert the commit even if I was willing to (without making a huge mess)
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12:34 Megaf_ Zeno`: so you tracked down the commit that causes it?
12:35 raffahacks Hey
12:35 Zeno` I know what commit causes it, yeah
12:36 Zeno` I could get rid of the crash by causing a memory leak but that would just hide things
12:37 PenguinDad eee​w hiding things with memory leaks
12:37 Megaf_ Don't do that Zeno`
12:37 Zeno` heheh yeah, bad
12:38 Zeno` which is why I won't do it :P
12:38 Megaf_ we have to find what exactely is causing that
12:38 Megaf_ Zeno`: tell me the commit on pvt please
12:39 Zeno` It's not secret: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0
12:40 kaeza Zeno` is a spy! he's leaking info so FM can benefit! you traitor!
12:40 kaeza also, mornings all
12:40 Megaf_ morning kaeza
12:40 * PenguinDad does the flamethrower test on Zeno` :D
12:42 Zeno` lol
12:42 Zeno` it's in #mintetest-dev log :P
12:42 * proller spying on pvt too
12:42 Zeno` I'm sure there are easier ways for proller to get the info hehehe
12:43 Zeno` anyway I spent some time yesterday trying to work out what was causing the issue and gave up :/
12:43 Zeno` wait
12:43 Zeno` proller, you're a spy!
12:44 Zeno` can I be like Get Smart?
12:44 Zeno` he is a good spy
12:48 jin_xi the enemy within ;)
12:49 Megaf_ Zeno`: maybe the problem is here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0​#diff-1dc3934293fad6b8769890134ac51c21R148
12:49 Megaf_ or close to that
12:50 Megaf_ or here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0​#diff-9cf8a2c3a462f80cdee5dd7abb29a6b9R37
12:51 Megaf_ oh
12:51 Megaf_ nevermind
12:51 Megaf_ can be in several other places
12:51 Zeno` maybe, I dunno. The actual issue is in delete oremgr
12:51 Zeno` I know where it happens, I just dunno why it happens :)
12:51 Megaf_ I think devs should avoid pushing so many things at once
12:52 Megaf_ it's difficult to solve the problem with many things added
12:52 Zeno` there is obviously a double free/delete somewhere because that's what the crash is caused by
12:52 Zeno` but where...
12:52 Zeno` no idea
12:53 Zeno` I gave up only because I needed a rest heh
12:53 Zeno` and beer
12:57 Megaf_ heh
12:57 Megaf_ take a day of
12:57 Megaf_ wheres sapier? Its been a while since I last saw him actually active
12:58 Trixar_za Oo
12:58 Trixar_za Did somebody say beer?
12:58 Zeno` yes!
12:58 Zeno` beer!
12:58 * Megaf_ hides
12:59 Trixar_za I have a song about beer
13:02 * Trixar_za is listening to: The Beer Song by Weird Al Yankovich
13:06 * ThatGraemeGuy listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_m6n0dGmWM
13:08 Trixar_za Oo
13:09 ThatGraemeGuy yeah
13:09 ThatGraemeGuy Someone linked me to one of them a while ago and when he explained what it is I was "no way wtf?!"
13:10 ThatGraemeGuy but actually quite cool
13:11 PenguinDad ThatGraemeGuy: interesting
13:13 ThatGraemeGuy the transitions between tracks could be smoother in some instances
13:13 PenguinDad but not really my style
13:22 ThatGraemeGuy not enough Taylor Swift? ;-p
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13:25 * PenguinDad looks up Taylor Swift
13:26 PenguinDad No thanks D:
13:28 ThatGraemeGuy lol
13:33 Zeno` PenguinDad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
13:33 * Zeno` boogies
13:33 Zeno` \o>   <o/     \o/
13:34 Zeno` we've know each other for so long
13:34 Zeno` we know the game and we're gonna play it!
13:34 exio4 you know the rules, and so do I
13:34 Zeno` lol
13:35 PenguinDad Zeno`: that video is blocked in my country :P
13:35 Zeno` too bad :(
13:35 exio4 where do you live? north korea? the US?
13:36 PenguinDad exio4: I live in Germany
13:39 Zeno` I'm sure you can find an alternate link
13:39 Zeno` that way you can jive with the rest of us
13:39 PenguinDad Zeno`: already found one :P https://soundcloud.com/omniedm/basscannon-omg
13:39 Zeno` woohoo!
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14:06 PenguinDad I wonder why https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/blob/master/src/mapgen.cpp#L296 is causing the issue :/
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14:13 _Esteban greetings!
14:14 kaeza o hai
14:15 _Esteban I passed by to ask: what are the textures that got changed in default game? I want to update my cel shaded texture pack and I want to know what textures I can reuse :P
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14:16 kaeza here: https://github.com/minetest/​minetest_game/commits/master
14:17 _Esteban thanks!
14:18 _Esteban cya
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14:28 Zeno` PenguinDad, elementary my dear Watson
14:30 Zeno` But I don't know the answer
14:33 PenguinDad This the only evidence I found Mister Holmes :P http://pastie.org/pastes/9719128/text
14:34 PenguinDad + is
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14:44 Zeno` PenguinDad, it's being freed by the biomemgr destructor somehow
14:46 Zeno` but not all of them
14:46 Zeno` just some of them :/
14:46 Zeno` this is crazy
14:46 Zeno` could it be because of emerge threads?
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14:49 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: Why does my hand glow in the dark? http://a.pomf.se/iasxfi.png
14:56 Salbei hi
14:57 Salbei what is the problem with the nuber 7 in minetest?
14:57 Zeno` I give up (again)
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14:57 sfan5 Salbei: do you use linux
14:58 Salbei yes
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15:00 Salbei i have a grieffer  player in my word called 123456789
15:00 Salbei i can't ban him!
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15:02 catninja OldCoder: please tell when you put up your version of moontest
15:03 kilbith Salbei : change your keyboard layout to US or UK, and for type 7
15:03 kilbith -and
15:05 sfan5 Salbei: this is a known problem, use the number keys above the main part of the keyboard
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15:06 kilbith a known problem for french keyboard
15:10 Salbei ok
15:11 Salbei it will be solved or never?
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15:41 _Esteban Found a new spam topic -.- :https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=10580
15:41 _Esteban Is there another way to communicate to mods bout these?
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15:50 _Esteban well cya later @everyone
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16:45 Calinou VanessaE, where is your automatic restart script for server?
16:45 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/m​inetest/Server-scripts/minetestserver-creative.sh
16:45 VanessaE and others in that dir
16:46 Calinou while true too? :(
16:46 Calinou doesn't that eat a lot of CPU
16:46 VanessaE not if there's a sleep in there
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16:49 Salbei [1~.
16:49 VanessaE !#$%@%$
16:49 VanessaE :P
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17:05 Zeno` CPU?
17:05 VanessaE fried.
17:05 VanessaE :P
17:05 Zeno` it will only eat CPU while it's trying to reconnect though won't it?
17:05 exio4 well
17:05 exio4 just bought an UPS >.<
17:06 exio4 bought doesn't sound that well-spelled
17:06 Zeno` I bought an helicopter
17:06 deezl well hop the pond then, and come visit :D
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17:07 Zeno` I can't afford fuel
17:07 deezl ok, I'll swim over, jump in, then it will be deezl powered
17:07 exio4 now I'll wait for it
17:07 Zeno` lol
17:07 exio4 and use my FX and profit
17:07 PenguinDad deezl powered xD
17:07 exio4 wat
17:08 exio4 I don't get it :<
17:08 deezl play on words: deezl prounounced like diesel
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17:08 Zeno` it's just a pity that I pronounce diesel as dye sell
17:09 deezl o,O
17:09 Zeno` lol, j/k :p
17:09 exio4 oh well
17:09 VanessaE well however you pronounce it, it's obsolete :)
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17:09 deezl never know, since the word "no" seems to have multiple syllables when you Aussie's say it :D
17:09 exio4 diesel ftw
17:10 deezl which, I love by the way
17:10 VanessaE electric vehicles ftw :)
17:11 deezl \o/
17:11 VanessaE you can always put a huge audio system under the bonnet if you need the sound of a big V8 or something :P
17:11 exio4 electric vehicles are nice, but there isn't any cheap one that people can buy
17:12 * PenguinDad just had a damn silly idea
17:12 VanessaE exio4: there are inexpensive ones, but they don't have a very long range, 200 km or less
17:12 exio4 any electric vehicle is for rich or higher
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17:12 deezl VanessaE said bonnet...hehe
17:12 deezl and stuff your groceries in the boot
17:12 VanessaE deezl: an electric vehicle doesn't properly have a hood or trunk, it has a bonnet and a boot
17:12 Zeno` I have taken the engine out of my car and replace it with a thousand mice on a treadmill
17:13 VanessaE with no engine, how can it have a "hood"?
17:13 VanessaE :)
17:13 deezl 1000mp!
17:13 Zeno` it's very efficient... I can't go anywhere
17:13 exio4 horsepower is outdated
17:13 exio4 micepower is the future
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17:13 Zeno` lol
17:13 Zeno` yeah a 1000mp engine
17:13 PenguinDad Ponypower is the future :P
17:14 deezl I just put a harness on my kids when I run outta petrol
17:14 VanessaE PenguinDad: I suddenly have an image in my head of rainbow dash propelling a car.
17:14 Zeno` 1000mp == about 0.00000000001pp engine
17:14 deezl then i stand on the hood and yell "mush!"
17:14 exio4 I am a poor again grr
17:14 PenguinDad lol
17:14 exio4 ;_;
17:15 deezl poor again?
17:15 exio4 got scholarship, and now wasting it in computer stuff
17:15 deezl just give up money, then you don't have to be disappointed when you run out of it
17:15 deezl 'waste'???
17:15 kaeza with the gas prices around here, the price of an EV is a bargain
17:15 deezl I'd call it a wise investment
17:15 kaeza yay talking to scrollback
17:16 deezl lol, hello kaeza
17:16 kaeza o/
17:16 exio4 deezl: wasted, because it could be well spent in lots of pizza
17:16 exio4 hai kaeza
17:16 * kaeza hugs exio4
17:16 VanessaE greetz, kaeza
17:16 * exio4 hugs back :3
17:16 deezl but pizza is temporary, your computer will love you back if you treat it nice
17:16 exio4 I already have my FX runnin'
17:17 * deezl thinks he just shared too much
17:17 exio4 I don't really know if I should buy a cheap case, or literally spend most of my $$ in a decent case :/
17:17 VanessaE a cheap case and lots of fans
17:17 VanessaE but better to use that money for what it was intended.
17:17 deezl cheap case and a dremel FTW
17:18 VanessaE + a dremel
17:18 VanessaE always buy a dremel.
17:18 exio4 well
17:18 exio4 now I need to google what a dremel is :D
17:18 deezl like a rotozip but not as heavy duty
17:18 VanessaE a hand-held rotary drilling/cutting/grinding tool
17:19 exio4 ah
17:19 deezl for poking holes, scribing, and other modding techniques
17:19 VanessaE also does a few other related jobs like polishing
17:19 exio4 I don't really need any tool
17:19 exio4 I can already use most of father's workplace
17:19 VanessaE no hacker's toolbox is complete without one.
17:19 deezl a hammer works nicely too
17:20 deezl hammer is my favorite tool for "light" adjustments
17:20 VanessaE mine is some off-brand, I forget what
17:20 VanessaE it works well enough (I was cheap)
17:21 exio4 well, the pneumatic(?) multi-use tool at my father's workplace works well enough
17:22 deezl exio4, yes air tools are nice
17:23 VanessaE electric is better
17:23 VanessaE you don't need a compressor :)
17:23 VanessaE and you can do the work in the house if the workshop is too cold
17:23 exio4 we have a smaller compressor we can use in-house too
17:23 exio4 but if it is too cold then well, I am not doing anything
17:24 exio4 also, too cold here is 5C / ~45F
17:24 exio4 and we're getting summer now, so it is going to be too _warm_ >_<
17:24 deezl it's ~30F here right now
17:24 exio4 I am sure we'll be getting 40C / 104F soon(tm)
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17:25 exio4 I am learning to use F!
17:25 deezl ~0C
17:25 exio4 C ftw
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17:32 exio4 also, not going to spend it in stuff for my uni now, based on the fact that I got 70% of the money in the last months of the year..
17:34 Jordach quassel
17:34 Jordach wat
17:34 Jordach there
17:34 Jordach where were my 120mb logs
17:35 Calinou <VanessaE> always buy a dremel.
17:35 Calinou lol, dremel fans
17:35 Calinou they're like Arch Linux users
17:35 Calinou they'll tell you
17:36 exio4 what is wrong with a multi-use tool
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17:38 deezl hehe
17:38 deezl <-------Arch Linux fan
17:40 exio4 archlinux is nice for testing, not for use, sadly
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17:42 deezl um, I use Arch everydasy
17:42 deezl everyday
17:42 deezl I find it to be quite stable and elegant
17:43 exio4 it is stable as long as you spend two hours per day in fixing everything that breaks
17:43 deezl I have yet to have anything break
17:44 deezl only occasionally with updates, but you just read the Arch newsfeed, and they usually have a fix for it pretty quick
17:44 exio4 I had a lot of problems with my laptop
17:44 deezl probably driver issues
17:44 exio4 yeah
17:44 exio4 the problem is that they kept updating everything and nothing worked
17:45 deezl for that, you look in the AUR
17:45 deezl well, they keep the kernel pretty bleeding edge
17:45 exio4 I had to install the kernel by myself, use a special framebuffer X11 driver, and etc for being able to play anything more than tetris
17:45 deezl I'm at 3.17.2 right now
17:45 deezl but am running on fairly modern hardware
17:46 exio4 it was an intel atom n270, a netbook, like 2 years and half ago, tried it again in the same laptop and only half the problems where fixed
17:47 exio4 but with gentoo and debian and all versions the same it worked, no idea the f*ck happened
17:47 deezl I really like Bodhi Linux on a netbook
17:47 Xack wow hi
17:47 exio4 I liked my gentoo setup
17:47 exio4 it took its time, but damn guy, it worked so nicely
17:48 deezl I've never run Gentoo, I keep meaning to give it a go in a VM
17:48 exio4 I haven't played with "distros" for more than a yar though
17:48 exio4 year*
17:49 exio4 the only "game" was switching a nearly-debian-wheezy in 32bit to debian sid 64bit early this year
17:49 deezl at one time I was booting like 6 different distros on the same machine till I settled on Arch
17:49 exio4 I never had more than two distros at the same time installed, I think
17:49 exio4 (in real hardware)
17:49 exio4 I always had a thing with debian though
17:50 deezl yeah, it was a little tricky :D
17:50 exio4 it is an ugly beast, but well, maybe because it was one of my first distros :P
17:50 exio4 how long have you been using linux deezl? I am pretty new
17:50 deezl uh, since about Ubuntu 10.10 I think
17:51 exio4 I have been using it for at least 6 years, I think
17:51 exio4 probably 7 though
17:51 exio4 I don't remember the exact month
17:51 deezl I'm no expert at it, but i am fairly comfortable with it, and I do well researching help topics in forums.
17:52 deezl I wouldn't use Windows at all if it wasn't for work
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17:52 Calinou celeberating 5 years here
17:52 exio4 I never installed Windows on my desktop!
17:53 deezl no Win on my desktop either :D
17:53 exio4 only in a VM, used it for debugging some stuff I had to develop for windows
17:53 exio4 I would really like to use coreboot, but sadly, my mobo isn't supported and ASUS isn't very opensource friendly
17:53 exio4 but it was the best mobo I could get at that moment
17:54 deezl yeah, ASUS mobo here too
17:54 exio4 which one? :P
17:54 exio4 just curious
17:55 deezl M5A78L-M LX Plus
17:55 exio4 ah, well
17:55 exio4 m5a99x evo here
17:55 deezl not bad
17:55 deezl mine was only $60 US
17:56 exio4 mine was $1050 ARS a year ago, when the USD was at 6ARS
17:56 exio4 between 150 and 175 USD
17:57 exio4 tech is expensive here
17:57 deezl but I slapped an FX Black 6-Core on it with 8GB Ram and a decent graphics card
17:57 exio4 and I want to buy stuff that is already expensive outside
17:57 exio4 deezl: 6100 or 6300?
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17:58 exio4 I have a 6100 on mine, with 14GB of ram atm
17:59 exio4 a sucky GT610 though
17:59 exio4 I don't really use my graphics
17:59 deezl that's pretty good
17:59 exio4 I am wasting my fast ram module though
18:00 exio4 it is 4gb hyperx@1600MHz, but then 10gb (8+2) of 1333mhz modules :/
18:01 exio4 I didn't have money for buying a 1600mhz 8gb module, and I really needed more ram, so I went for the slow one
18:01 exio4 oh well, yours has an integrated gpu, if I had an integrated gpu I wouldn't have bought the GT610 :P
18:02 exio4 I don't really know what to buy with the remaining 1800 ARS
18:03 exio4 there aren't lovely cases for that price, I can't buy more than 16gb of ram, but I could buy a 2*1tb combo, or a 2tb black, but then I would have it raid-less
18:03 exio4 and having too much data without raid? nope
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18:04 deezl sheesh!
18:05 deezl that's more than I need for my machine
18:05 exio4 atm I have two harddisks running in RAID 1
18:05 exio4 1tb * 2
18:05 deezl I don't do any sw dev, or graphics rendering or anything
18:07 exio4 I don't really do a lot of sw dev
18:07 deezl I have 500GB HDD in the machine and an external 1TB I use for backups and storage
18:07 exio4 I already have my terabyte filled with lots of data
18:07 deezl wow
18:07 exio4 it is one year of usage
18:08 exio4 1tb per year is actually pretty low
18:08 deezl pfff
18:08 deezl low for what/
18:08 deezl what takes up so much room?
18:09 exio4 well, it is kinda unfair, but I have like 400gb of music and 200gb of movies
18:09 deezl my movies/music is about 150GB
18:09 exio4 so I actually only used 300gb out of random data
18:10 deezl but I haven't put everything I have in digital form either
18:10 exio4 well, I only reinstalled recently
18:11 exio4 I still haven't cleaned the mess of files I have :/
18:11 exio4 a tag-based filesystem is what I need, but I only have used tags for specific things
18:13 deezl tag-based?
18:14 exio4 er, like, you tag files
18:14 exio4 then you search by tags
18:14 deezl I guess I don't do much downloading anymore. I use streaming services for most of my media
18:15 deezl used to keep tons of warez around when I was on Windows, but since I've moved to Linux all those exe's are pretty useless
18:15 exio4 I like to download stuff mostly for the reason that I can download higher-definition stuff than if I only streamed
18:16 deezl I guess that's true to a point.
18:17 exio4 I don't live in a place with decent network speeds remember
18:17 exio4 :P
18:18 deezl ah. mine is only /just/ decent. low end DSL, hoping to move to cable soon
18:18 exio4 what speed?
18:19 deezl on average I get about 365K down
18:19 exio4 that is good
18:20 deezl it's ok
18:20 exio4 two-three times my download
18:20 deezl not /good/
18:20 exio4 well, based on US' numbers, anything under 50mb isn't good
18:20 exio4 :P
18:20 deezl true
18:21 deezl that's mostly due to wide-spread fibreoptic infrastructure
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18:24 deezl but I live in a rural area, we don't have fiber here yet
18:24 exio4 rural area atm, and 0.25mbps
18:24 sfan5 whats a 'rural area'?
18:24 deezl far from a city
18:25 PenguinDad exio4: 0.25mpbs is still faster than my connection :(
18:25 sfan5 deezl: whats a 'city'?
18:25 deezl lol...
18:26 exio4 a place with houses and people, you know, but not just 40 people
18:26 deezl what country are you in sfan5?
18:26 sfan5 deezl: germany
18:26 deezl Berlin is a city
18:26 sfan5 I'm aware
18:26 sfan5 but what is a city and what isn't?
18:27 deezl well, there are about 3 markets where I live and they are all tiny
18:27 deezl that = "not a city"
18:27 deezl there is mostly farms here
18:27 PenguinDad "there is no agreement on how a city is distinguished from a town within general English language meanings" :(
18:28 sfan5 deezl: wikipedia says I like in a 'city'
18:28 ElectronLibre !c "that" ~= "city"
18:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:28 * sfan5 haz 12/1 (DL/UL in MBit/s)
18:28 ElectronLibre Wrong syntax..
18:28 ElectronLibre !c "that" != "city"
18:28 MinetestBot True
18:28 ElectronLibre Here is the final answer :D.
18:29 PenguinDad wikipedia says I live in a town :(
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18:35 exio4 PenguinDad: where do you live?
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18:42 * ElectronLibre is absolutly sure he lives in a town, a very tiny town..
18:42 exio4 so do I
18:43 Jordach m'lady https://cdn.mediacru.sh/e1tg0s3iV_Vf.png
18:43 * Jordach tips fedora
18:44 Aragas nah
18:45 Aragas http://www.speedtest.net/result/3909686737.png
18:45 exio4 damn
18:45 ElectronLibre 73 Mbs/s!! x_x
18:45 exio4 fxs are expensive
18:46 exio4 Aragas: gimme a few mbits!
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18:46 luizrpgluiz hi
18:46 deezl dat DL speed!
18:46 Aragas hehehe
18:47 PenguinDad Aragas: nice upload speed
18:47 exio4 ^ the nice part is the upload speed
18:47 Calinou 3 Mb/s down, 0.3 Mb/s up here
18:47 Aragas i heard that we have here 300 mb/s channels
18:47 Aragas but i dunno how to fill them
18:47 * deezl is green with envy
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18:47 mitrom Hi
18:48 Aragas i pay ~13 dollars per month >:D
18:48 exio4 wat
18:48 exio4 13 USD for that network?
18:48 exio4 I hate you
18:48 ElectronLibre Hello luizrpgluiz.. I only have 600Kb/s it's horrible to see that... x_x
18:48 exio4 only
18:48 exio4 ¬¬
18:49 Aragas We don't have here 2 dominant networks like in USA
18:49 sfan5 exio4: if you can convine 40 percent of your city to get fibre you can get 100/100 (DL/UL MBit/s) for about 62 dollars / month
18:49 PenguinDad !c 400 / (77.3 / 8)
18:49 MinetestBot 41.39715394566624
18:49 sfan5 (at least where I live)
18:50 PenguinDad uhhh
18:50 luizrpgluiz XD
18:50 Calinou could have 500 Mb/s if ISP wasn't lazy
18:51 * sfan5 throws why-would-your-ISP-do-that? at Calinou
18:51 sfan5 it gets them nothing
18:51 sfan5 unless they charge more
18:51 Aragas the only way to fill those channels - porn, like blu-ray
18:52 exio4 Aragas: why would anyone want more than 1mbps if it wasn't for porn?
18:52 sfan5 Aragas: or torrents
18:52 exio4 torrents for porns
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18:52 Calinou sfan5, they would charge a bit more
18:52 sfan5 exio4: for like.. downloading updates faster
18:52 Calinou two ISPs here are promising fiber: one for 11 months, another for 8 months
18:52 PenguinDad torrents for non porn anime :P
18:52 Calinou they already built some infrastructure, which is waiting to be used
18:53 Aragas games those days are reallu huge, like ~30-40 gb
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18:53 Calinou >2014 >AAA games
18:53 Aragas titanfall and other shi~
18:53 * sfan5 meows at Aragas
18:53 Calinou Titanfall is shit indeed
18:53 Aragas steam isn't givin' me more than 7-9 mb/s
18:54 Calinou torrents are not necessarily faster
18:54 Calinou you can't go faster than your connection
18:54 Aragas oh, wai~. maube megabytes here, not bits
18:54 sfan5 <Calinou> you can't go faster than your connection
18:54 exio4 you can top it
18:54 sfan5 no shit
18:54 Calinou Steam will easily top your connection
18:54 Calinou they can send like 30 MB/s
18:54 sfan5 they can send more
18:55 sfan5 otherwise 2 people downloading would overload their servers
18:55 Aragas yup
18:55 Aragas and this suck
18:55 Aragas at lest for me :DDD
18:55 Aragas least*
18:55 Calinou sfan5, some people are reporting they download at 62 MB/s
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18:56 Aragas maybe usa or europe?
18:56 Zephlon Mb =/= MB
18:56 Krock hi
18:56 Calinou I'm talking in MB, Zephlon
18:56 Krock Haaaands across the water - Heaaaads across the sky.
18:57 Zephlon In that case, wow that's fast!
18:58 sfan5 Aragas: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3909717990.png look. (note: the ISP and country thing is actually wrong, my vps is in russia)
18:59 Krock LI = Lithauen?
18:59 sfan5 LI ist Lichtenstein
18:59 sfan5 (oder wie auch immer man das schreibt)
18:59 luizrpgluiz Calinou:Are you a developer?
18:59 Krock FL ist Liechtenstein
18:59 sfan5 Krock: sure?
18:59 Aragas such speed with vpn?!
18:59 sfan5 Aragas: vps*
19:00 Aragas ah
19:00 sfan5 Krock: my geoip database says
19:00 sfan5 Liechtenstein
19:00 Krock sfan5, http://www.iten-online.ch/kennzeichen​/Liechtenstein/images/FL_normal02.jpg mhm okay. I might be wrong in this case
19:01 Krock cuz only car signs have those letters
19:01 sfan5 LT might be Litauen
19:01 Krock ah okay
19:02 Krock yes, the TLD of Liechtnstein is actually LI
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19:03 sfan5 Aragas: I could probably use it as a vpn
19:03 Calinou luizrpgluiz, no
19:04 Aragas server is in russia, correct?
19:04 sfan5 yes
19:04 Calinou sfan5, Lichtenstein VPS, why?
19:04 Calinou legal reasons?
19:04 * Calinou rolls eyes
19:04 sfan5 Calinou: russia
19:04 Aragas than it is useless
19:04 Calinou ah
19:04 Calinou French president is co-prince of Andorra
19:04 Calinou (-:
19:05 sfan5 Calinou: the geoip db has outdated records and you can't really explain the last hope before LI being RU
19:05 Aragas we have this china-like firewall, so any site or ip can be blocked anytime
19:06 sfan5 it's not as worse as in china
19:06 exio4 Aragas: can you watch porn legally?
19:06 sfan5 exio4: I'm pretty sure porn isn't illegal in russia (yet)
19:06 Aragas but still, my ass is really hurting because of this
19:07 Calinou channel is family-friendly
19:07 exio4 watching porn legal = good country
19:07 Aragas Yep, we like porn
19:07 sfan5 :P
19:07 Aragas but only traditional and lesbian :DDDD
19:07 Trixar_za Oo
19:07 exio4 legit
19:07 Trixar_za Well dammit - now I've thought up voxel porn. Thanks for that.
19:08 Calinou take it elsewhere
19:08 Aragas damn, voxel porn
19:08 exio4 elsewhere? lets move it to china
19:08 sfan5 Calinou: the channel rules don't talk about family friendly things
19:08 Aragas maybe north korea?
19:09 Calinou use common sense, many young people are present
19:09 deezl I don't think the communist party in either of those countries is fond of such material
19:09 sfan5 Nk might be the best place to host anything
19:09 sfan5 NK*
19:09 sfan5 ;)
19:09 exio4 sure sure
19:09 Trixar_za Seriously
19:09 Trixar_za It's box shaped things
19:09 exio4 _things_
19:09 exio4 I mean, hi
19:10 Trixar_za Hi exio4
19:10 Trixar_za And I just google imaged it and it's a safe word
19:10 Trixar_za well, phrase
19:10 Trixar_za lol
19:10 Trixar_za Until it gets Rule 34'd
19:11 exio4 :F alfajores
19:11 sfan5 Aragas: I mainly use it for torrents: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/il-sH8LAfXvw.png
19:11 Calinou what's that interface?
19:11 Aragas ohohohoh
19:11 sfan5 Calinou: transmission
19:11 sfan5 (web interface)
19:11 Calinou OK
19:11 sfan5 the gtk client is also very pretty
19:11 Aragas wait a minute, i'll shom statics from my provoder directly
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19:12 mitrom Hi again
19:12 Calinou but doesn't exist on Windows officially… :/
19:12 Calinou so I use qBittorrent, which works everywhere
19:12 Calinou (Qt)
19:12 Calinou also has Web interface if needed
19:12 mitrom Freenode never gives me the closest server :c
19:13 Aragas 322 days, 1.8 TB downloaded, 184 GB seeded. I'm not good at seeding, lol
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19:14 sfan5 ugh
19:14 exio4 1.8tb in 322 days?
19:14 sfan5 Calinou: qbittorrent is ugly
19:14 exio4 you waste your network!
19:14 Aragas yep, i lied about blu-ray pons :DDD
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19:16 Calinou looks good here
19:16 Calinou 0,19 ratio on Trisquel ISO
19:16 Calinou that's my best one
19:16 Calinou (1,4 GB size)
19:16 sfan5 pff
19:16 Calinou that one is requested often
19:17 exio4 my best ratio is like 0.8 out of a 25gb tv serie
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19:17 sfan5 Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RgfrTjJmCykL.png << raspi at home stats (running time is broken)
19:17 Calinou I don't run a PC 24/7
19:17 Calinou 309127 days of running?
19:18 sfan5 (running time is broken)
19:18 exio4 46 days of uptime here
19:18 Calinou anyway, there is not that much point to me seeding
19:18 Calinou some people have MB/s of upload, there are also lots of Web sources
19:18 sfan5 MB/s of upload pff
19:18 Calinou when I seed, it's 25 KB/s at most
19:18 Calinou and 430 KB/s of down
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19:18 mitrom sfan5, 846 years eh?
19:18 sfan5 also never seen a web src
19:19 sfan5 Calinou: I seed 75 KB/s
19:19 Aragas when i seed, it's 0 b/s at most, lol
19:19 sfan5 I have about 100 kb/s of upload
19:19 sfan5 mitrom: yep
19:19 Calinou I'd be happy if I could do that
19:19 mitrom erm
19:19 mitrom I call fake
19:19 exio4 he said running time was broken
19:19 mitrom Or 44 using the other figure
19:19 exio4 and all the people went like
19:19 exio4 OMG SO MANY DAYS!
19:19 Calinou mitrom, hello 2 years old NickServ account! :p
19:19 Calinou 2 hours*
19:19 sfan5 exio4: ikr
19:19 mitrom Ye
19:19 mitrom I am a noobie
19:20 exio4 I am a young shibe
19:20 exio4 only 3 years and 44 weeks
19:22 catninja then I have a friend for you http://mecatninja.imgur.com/all/
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19:23 catninja http://i.imgur.com/mQ26ZnJ.jpg I mean
19:23 mitrom Timing cached reads:   22356 MB in  2.00 seconds = 11188.47 MB/sec
19:23 mitrom damn
19:24 sfan5 Calinou: transmission way prettier: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Rxo0HgjWOvyY.png
19:26 Jordach catninja, https://mediacru.sh pls
19:26 Calinou I like the display, but it is less suitable for large numbers of torrents
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19:28 Calinou here, how it looks (legal torrents for once): https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Mznkgby2bsth.png
19:28 Calinou with extended info
19:28 sfan5 you can have that too
19:28 Calinou changed the columns around
19:28 mitrom Timing cached reads:     2 MB in  2.48 seconds = 825.24 kB/sec
19:29 mitrom Just look at the speed
19:29 Calinou very slow
19:29 mitrom Indeed
19:30 mitrom For a new vps
19:30 mitrom :c
19:30 sfan5 Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_tYnxpdKnOqM.png
19:30 OldCoder catninja very well; but I think I'd like to merge some of paramat's stuff first. This might become Worldtest or Solartest
19:30 Aragas oh, fullmetal
19:31 mitrom Calinou, Think I should write to the host about this?
19:31 mitrom 400kb ~ 4000MB
19:31 Calinou no idea
19:31 mitrom But the buffered disk reads are awful
19:31 sfan5 Aragas: yeah, seen it?
19:31 Aragas yea, seen and readed
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19:32 Aragas I like anime, but not lika all thosebig fans
19:32 sfan5 Aragas: brotherhood or the original one?
19:32 Calinou Timing cached reads:   26006 MB in  2.00 seconds = 13015.85 MB/sec
19:32 Calinou Timing buffered disk reads: 1548 MB in  3.00 seconds = 515.87 MB/sec
19:32 Aragas both
19:32 catninja OldCoder: Sorry for being unpatient, my server was just not as fun as yours without the extensions (but less easily agitated 12yrolds)
19:32 mitrom Calinou, What's that?
19:33 mitrom Yeah i get about those on my amazon and digitalocean vpses
19:33 Trixar_za That reminds me. Apparently the Anime producers of Naruto will continue beyond the Manga's end. Basically, it's not done by far. Sorry OldCoder.
19:33 mitrom hdparm -Tt ?
19:34 sfan5 Aragas: I've seen the original one and I'm currently watching episodes of brotherhood if I have some free time (and I feel like it)
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19:35 Aragas i envy u, have not time at all
19:35 Calinou yes, mitrom
19:35 OldCoder catninja, it is fine. We will release the current version when I have time to surface.
19:35 mitrom That an ssd?
19:35 OldCoder It's been pretty interesting lately
19:36 OldCoder Trixar_za, I don't mind the existence of the series; I simply feel that it is past time for Sasuke to eradicate Hidden Leaf
19:36 sfan5 Aragas: what are you doing that you're not having time?
19:36 Aragas study, first course
19:37 Calinou mitrom, yes
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19:37 mitrom ok good
19:37 mitrom On a vps?
19:37 sfan5 Aragas: my main activity is school
19:37 Calinou no, a desktop
19:38 * mitrom is jeliss
19:38 sfan5 Aragas: studying takes up a whole lot more of time, right?
19:38 _Esteban deviantart + aseprite + Minetest =  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qdlMYcTT45jH.png
19:38 sfan5 wat
19:39 _Esteban Im not sure either
19:39 Aragas yea, but the worst thing is that my university isn't in top, but still, no time for coding like a month or so
19:39 PenguinDad _Esteban: 2fast4u
19:39 _Esteban xD
19:40 * mitrom just had an idea
19:40 mitrom time sudo reboot
19:40 * sfan5 is a cat
19:40 Calinou how would that work
19:40 Calinou (that is, using the “time” command)
19:41 sfan5 Calinou: 'reboot' is async
19:41 sfan5 actually
19:41 sfan5 I'm not sure
19:41 sfan5 but 'shutdown -r now' or 'shutdown now' are async
19:45 mitrom Let's try it
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19:45 Sokomine hi
19:45 * Sokomine puts some milk in front of sfan5
19:46 * sfan5 noms the milk
19:46 * EvergreenTree drinks some bacon
19:47 Sokomine since about yesterday, my version of mt...exits with a lot of worriesome error messages whenever i close a local game
19:48 Sokomine many lines look like this: 7f2a18ef0000-7f2a18ef1000 rw-s 00000000 00:04 5536306                    /drm mm object (deleted)
19:49 Krock Sokomine, something with "free()"? there's already an error report
19:49 VanessaE Sokomine: already reported.
19:49 Sokomine the rest...looks as if it's either a directory listing or a list of processes
19:49 Sokomine VanessaE: ah. good. hope it can be solved
19:50 Sokomine it is worriesome to get such output. at least it doesn't seem to happen when using servers
19:50 Jordach EvergreenTree, mew
19:50 PenguinDad Bacon :3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLaTlg8QukE
19:51 Sokomine and i hope sfan5's save-to-localmap-patch gets merged eventually. that code just now helped me to recover part of a building lost on a server a certain jordach ran for a short while :-)
19:51 Jordach Sokomine, stored in a loving VMWare Disk
19:51 Jordach it's not lost :3
19:51 Sokomine ah :-) then it's good. i'm glad i have a local copy anyway :-)
19:51 Jordach i just haven't started it in a while
19:52 Sokomine though it ended in rebuilding the house. the materials are just far too diffrent. but taking a look at the existing house and seeing what i did how and how it can be improved helped
19:52 Sokomine servers are generally a good advertisement for games
19:55 EvergreenTree PenguinDad: Mmmm, baconstep
19:57 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: o/
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20:01 Calinou mgv5 is quite cool now
20:01 Calinou although dirt and sand patches are everywhere :(
20:02 PenguinDad Calinou: you can disable that
20:02 Jordach oh boy did i miss being buried in stone
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20:03 PenguinDad just put "mgv5_spflags = noblobs" in your minetest.conf
20:04 Calinou why isn't that the default
20:04 Calinou even with biomes, the patches spawn at surface
20:04 PenguinDad ask paramat
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21:00 SvenGek Question, how fast would one say Minetest is?
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21:01 mitrom SvenGek, 8/10
21:01 CraigyDavi_ SvenGek, depends on your hardware
21:01 mitrom My minecraft server uses less resources when inactive
21:01 mitrom But the client is very fast
21:01 SvenGek My computer sometimes struggles to play YouTube videos
21:01 mitrom I used to get that
21:01 mitrom Intel Atom?
21:02 SvenGek No, it's by Toshiba
21:02 SvenGek NB505
21:02 mitrom Got a sticker on the bottom?
21:03 SvenGek Yeah.
21:04 mitrom Intel <this> inside.
21:04 mitrom Wats <this> ?
21:04 mitrom Pentium, Atom, Xeon
21:04 SvenGek Oh it is Atom isn't it
21:05 mitrom Thought so
21:05 mitrom Windows?
21:05 SvenGek I don't see Intel written anywhere on it, but online it is called that
21:05 SvenGek Nah, linux, crunch bang
21:05 mitrom good
21:05 SvenGek hehe
21:05 mitrom Could you paste free -h, lscpu ?
21:06 RealBadAngel mitrom, mt is evolving and getting features mc doesnt have. and its faster no matter what
21:07 mitrom RealBadAngel, True
21:07 mitrom Locked chests for example
21:07 RealBadAngel thats trivial
21:07 mitrom MC is still fun, just MT has something it doesn't
21:07 RealBadAngel MT is free
21:07 mitrom The API is just great
21:07 mitrom Oh and that
21:07 SvenGek lscpu?
21:08 RealBadAngel if you have some spare time you can make mt better
21:08 mitrom Yes open a terminal and tye it
21:08 RealBadAngel thats a major difference
21:08 mitrom I don't really do any C++ or Lua
21:08 mitrom I have been known to Lua in the past
21:08 mitrom But it#s not something i continued with
21:08 mitrom It is a great language and I'd like to get into it again
21:09 RealBadAngel but for many its just a new hobby
21:09 RealBadAngel such like lego blocks in the past
21:09 SvenGek total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
21:10 SvenGek Mem:          1.0G       849M       151M         0B       9.1M       267M
21:10 SvenGek -/+ buffers/cache:       572M       428M
21:10 SvenGek Swap:         2.0G        36M       1.9G
21:10 RealBadAngel with mojang or m$ you could just scream for a change
21:10 RealBadAngel here you can act
21:10 SvenGek Should've pastebinned it
21:10 mitrom SvenGek, That's not lscpu but ok, gig of ram
21:10 RealBadAngel propably at the start you will be checked 100s of times, and should be patient
21:10 RealBadAngel but still
21:11 mitrom Paste cat /proc/cpuinfo too
21:11 RealBadAngel if you are checkin ram usage of the client
21:11 RealBadAngel it raised lately
21:12 RealBadAngel in case of dreambuilder game it is like 0,5 gb
21:12 RealBadAngel i decided to cache meshnodes and nodeboxes
21:12 RealBadAngel to gain more speed
21:13 RealBadAngel cache is expensive in terms of eating RAM, but RAM itself is cheap
21:14 mitrom sure...
21:14 SvenGek http://pastebin.com/wsPkQpP4
21:14 mitrom SvenGek, Now cat /proc/cpuinfo again
21:14 mitrom You forgot to copy it lol
21:15 RealBadAngel and 4gb system is quite enough to play with dreambuilder and 256x textures
21:15 RealBadAngel such thing would be just impossible in mc
21:15 mitrom yup
21:15 mitrom I once ran mt on 256mb ram
21:15 mitrom Ran fine, 20 players
21:16 mitrom `fine`; left like 1MB but it did run
21:16 RealBadAngel asked for swap, for sure
21:16 mitrom Yeah and 1GB of swap done
21:17 SvenGek http://pastebin.com/U6E08Ssn
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21:17 SvenGek I did
21:17 SvenGek ?
21:17 mitrom Sure that'll do
21:17 mitrom Yeah it'll run... playably
21:18 SvenGek Oh whoops, didn't even noticed I pasted the same thing twice :P
21:18 SvenGek haha
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23:19 hisforeverkid Hi I did it before but forgot how to get screwdriver to turn vertical?
23:24 VanessaE pray. :P
23:25 Wayward_One right-click to mode 3, iirc
23:25 Wayward_One lol
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23:25 VanessaE shift-punch it into mode 3
23:25 Wayward_One ^^ that too
23:25 hisforeverkid ty vanessa
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23:47 Megaf Hi all
23:47 Megaf I had a question but i forgot it
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