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00:21 jordan4ibanez Uh oh I'm pushing my computer to the absolute limit. Hopefully it doesn't crash. :/
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00:28 hisforever VanessaE is your server down by chance?
00:30 shadowzone Nope
00:30 shadowzone Server_announce is somewhat broke I think.
00:31 hisforever ty Shadow when I try to login I come up with a screen I've never seen before
00:33 hisforever I'[m getting in now
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01:15 Fritigern I just found this in the log of my current MT session, dunno what it means. I am not worried, I just want to know what it means.: Irrlicht log: Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 134
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01:56 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/GUQCNifn1e4
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04:47 Fritigern Zeno`: I am getting closer to the 1000fps mark :-)  https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8fq​vt8hqqx52o0/My_build7.png?dl=0
04:50 Fritigern FPS is closer to 500 when v_range == 75
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05:03 shmanceloticus 1000 fps :) Getting prepared for the release of "Minetest: The Matrix" http://www.librador.com/2009/01/1​6/The-frame-rate-of-the-universe/
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05:06 Fritigern shmanceloticus: Zeno already broke the 1000fps barrier :-)
05:08 Fritigern He got 1400 or so. <== Jealous!
05:10 Fritigern Here's proof :-)) http://imgur.com/2TD0pd8
05:13 zlsa i get 15fps :/
05:14 NemoMT zlsa, I feel your pain.
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06:07 Fritigern NemoMT: there are tricks to get a higherfps. have a look in minetest.conf.example
06:09 NemoMT Fritigern, will it boost your FPS in multiplayer?
06:09 Fritigern It should
06:09 Fritigern Just cut out some stuff like shaders, nice leaves, etc.
06:40 NemoMT Fritigern, this actually helped me a lot. Thanks a ton! :)
06:40 Fritigern You're welcome :-)
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06:53 FreeLikeGNU if only minetest were bundled with a live distro
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07:38 Fritigern FreeLikeGNU: Nobody is stopping you
07:44 FreeLikeGNU Now to get nobody out of the way
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08:40 Zeno` hah. Well done Fritigern
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12:35 Toothpick I was running .3 on a linux box with debian stable. I added the repositories for unstable and upgraded to .4~ and it framerate is now terrible. Stopped shading and framerate improved, but unable to see icons at bottom of screen (nodes?) like the wood, sticks and such
12:39 Zeno` .3 is... 2 years old?
12:41 Zeno` but nvm
12:42 Zeno` what version of 0.4. are you using?
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12:46 Toothpick It is .4.10
12:47 Toothpick It was this install from sid: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/minetest
12:47 Toothpick I don't have access to the computer until Monday, it's in a classroom.
12:48 Toothpick I turned all the video options off on the minetest client, I'll play with it more next week and see the icons will show.
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12:59 kaeza mornings
13:03 LazyJ o/
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16:24 Salbei_ hi
16:24 ElectronLibre Hello Salbei_.
16:24 kaeza hi
16:24 kaeza quiet morning, huh?
16:25 Salbei_ im french its 17h24 here :)
16:26 kaeza uruguayan, actually, it's 14:26 here <_<
16:26 ElectronLibre Only 3 hours beetween us, I throught there was more.
16:27 Salbei_ sfan5: do u know who add servers in banlist on servers.minetest.net?
16:27 sfan5 huh?
16:27 Salbei_ cauz i think im banned
16:27 sfan5 there is no server in the banlist currently
16:27 Salbei_ ok
16:28 Salbei_ I can't be in the list since few days
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16:29 ElectronLibre Have you checked your minetest.conf ?
16:29 Salbei_ yes
16:30 Salbei_ and i don't had modify somethink since few week
16:30 Salbei_ the last week i was listed
16:30 VanessaE Salbei_: the list is broken again.
16:30 VanessaE my servers aren't showing either
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16:30 Salbei_ ok i have to wait?
16:30 VanessaE yeah
16:31 VanessaE at least one other person here has also had his server inexplicably disappear
16:31 VanessaE not sure of the reason.
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16:31 shadowzone My server is showing up.
16:31 VanessaE shadowzone: yeah well you're just special ;)
16:31 jojoa1997 Hi
16:31 VanessaE hey jojo
16:32 ElectronLibre Hello jojoa1997.
16:32 sfan5 VanessaE: lemme try to revert shadows commit
16:32 VanessaE sfan5: wait first.
16:32 shadowzone XD
16:32 shadowzone I don't think so
16:32 VanessaE sfan5: why would his last commit cause only some servers to disappear and not all of them?
16:33 sfan5 VanessaE: dunno
16:33 Jordach wat
16:33 sfan5 wow
16:33 sfan5 a Jordach
16:33 Salbei_ sfan5: say here when is reverted plz
16:33 VanessaE inb4 sfan5's "shrug" emoticon :)
16:33 ElectronLibre Perhaps the build used is a cause.
16:33 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:34 VanessaE that's the one :)
16:34 sfan5 I have that at ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:34 sfan5 no
16:34 sfan5 not that
16:34 VanessaE lol
16:34 sfan5 !c ":" + "shr:"
16:34 MinetestBot ':shr:'
16:34 sfan5 thatz
16:34 sfan5 -z
16:34 VanessaE handy
16:35 sfan5 Salbei_, VanessaE: reverted the commit and restart uwsgi
16:35 VanessaE I'm genuinely curious because if it means my servers are behaving out-of-spec, I'd rather fix them than to have the master list be wrong
16:36 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:36 PenguinDad Rainbow Shrug! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:37 VanessaE sfan5: ok you think you're so smart, make a "hands on the hips, unfavorable expression on face" one :D
16:37 sfan5 !rainbow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:37 MinetestBot 4¯\7_(8ツ)3_/¯
16:37 sfan5 VanessaE: there is no katakana that looks like unfavorable expression
16:37 sfan5 (context: ツ is a katakana)
16:38 VanessaE figures :)
16:38 VanessaE I knew it was katakana though
16:38 VanessaE so switch to chinese traditional then :)
16:38 PenguinDad sfan5: Is there kanji for that then? :P
16:39 sfan5 PenguinDad: not sure, ask the unicode charts
16:39 PenguinDad lol
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16:40 VanessaE
16:40 VanessaE that's close
16:40 VanessaE ( "vomiting of a dog", U+5422 )
16:41 shadowzone I think my "I have no idea what they are talking about" emoticon is pretty funny.
16:41 shadowzone fO_O
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16:42 sfan5 VanessaE: ಠ▃ಠ
16:43 PenguinDad ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
16:43 sfan5 ┻━┻ ︵╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯︵ ┻━┻
16:44 VanessaE sfan5: 㕣 (U+3563, "marsh at the foot of the hills")
16:45 shadowzone °¸°
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16:45 VanessaE (yes, this is what happens when I get too bored...)
16:46 shadowzone VanessaE: go boot someone in the rear end for swearing.
16:46 VanessaE shadowzone: no one to boot :P
16:46 shadowzone awww shit
16:47 VanessaE ;kick shadowzone swearing
16:47 VanessaE ;)
16:47 shadowzone Okay..
16:47 VanessaE jk :)
16:47 shadowzone That was the plan.
16:48 VanessaE too lazy to ;op first :P
16:48 PenguinDad rofl https://soundcloud.com/alexm​ashup/weediam-tell-overture
16:48 sfan5 !op VanessaE
16:48 sfan5 look
16:48 sfan5 I did it for you
16:48 VanessaE haha
16:48 shadowzone XD
16:48 Calinou <shadowzone> fO_O
16:48 * Calinou gets the pitchfork from shadowzone
16:48 Calinou O_O
16:48 * sfan5 forks Calinou
16:48 shadowzone um..
16:48 shadowzone fO_O
16:48 Calinou ffO_O
16:49 shadowzone EO_O
16:49 shadowzone That is the pitchfork
16:49 shadowzone ---EO_O
16:49 * ElectronLibre finds these O very interesting. O_O"
16:49 shadowzone O_O
16:49 sfan5 VanessaE: does it work with the serverlist now?
16:49 PenguinDad 0_O
16:49 shadowzone Um..
16:49 shadowzone O_+
16:50 Salbei_ sfan not better
16:50 VanessaE sfan5: nope.avi
16:50 VanessaE which is rather odd.
16:50 sfan5 hm
16:50 sfan5 VanessaE: which IP does your server use to communicate with servers.minetest.net?
16:50 VanessaE sfan5: 192.99.11.10
16:50 sfan5 (asking because servers.minetest.net has v6 too)
16:51 sfan5 and I'm pretty sure you have v6 too
16:51 VanessaE as for ipv6...um... either  fe80::4e72:b9ff:fe66:169/64  or  2607:5300:60:3c0a::1/64  ?
16:51 sfan5 fe80:: is local
16:52 VanessaE (first is Scope:Link, the second is Scope:Global)
16:52 shadowzone Oooh
16:52 * Calinou enabled IPv6 just recently
16:52 Calinou it looks like some websites use it in a transparent way
16:52 shadowzone Okay
16:52 sfan5 s/some/every/ s/websites/website/ s/use/uses/
16:52 shadowzone Should I enable it then?
16:53 sfan5 it does not matter whether you connect via v4 or v6
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16:53 VanessaE sfan5: my server shows the following from ifconfig:  http://pastebin.com/VdSWi8nn
16:54 VanessaE well, just the stuff that mentions ipv6 anyway
16:54 VanessaE (I don't understand ipv6 at all really)
16:54 iqualfragile_ sfan5: is there some way to have some trusted ips in the serverlist
16:54 sfan5 iqualfragile_: y that?
16:54 sfan5 VanessaE: fe80:: is always local
16:54 iqualfragile_ where the script does not check if the server is actually up
16:54 sfan5 why?
16:55 iqualfragile_ so you can have socket activated servers
16:55 iqualfragile_ without being ultra hacky
16:55 sfan5 umm
16:56 sfan5 all you need to do is start the server, announce, shut down
16:56 sfan5 and do that in the normal announce interval to make sure the server stays on the list
16:56 iqualfragile_ sfan5: so there is an announce interval…
16:56 sfan5 VanessaE: your server is running, right?
16:56 iqualfragile_ this makes things harder
16:57 sfan5 harder?
16:57 sfan5 no
16:57 iqualfragile_ yes, you need to start and stop the server all the time
16:57 sfan5 actually you don't
16:57 VanessaE sfan5: yup, it's quite up.
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16:57 VanessaE !up Creative
16:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: Invalid Address
16:57 iqualfragile_ without you would be able to just put some json
16:57 VanessaE !up 192.99.11.10 30000
16:57 MinetestBot 192.99.11.10:30000 is up (82ms)
16:58 sfan5 VanessaE: this? 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 - - [06/Nov/2014:16:57:34 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-149-gdbf97af (Linux/3.10.23-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 x86_64)" "-"
16:58 VanessaE (well creative was having trouble yesterday but that was a mod crashing; the others were unaffected)
16:58 Salbei_ calinou its me the website user
16:58 sfan5 iqualfragile_: it is actually sufficient to have a listening "Connection"
16:58 Salbei_ what is the problem with thus?
16:58 sfan5 the server list only checks that
16:58 VanessaE sfan5: yeah, that looks like my ipv6 address shown alongside "Scope:Global".
16:58 iqualfragile_ ah, so the server list polls in regular intervalls?
16:58 sfan5 noi
16:58 sfan5 -i
16:59 sfan5 the server list doesn't poll at all
16:59 sfan5 the server list checks if the server is up if you announce
16:59 iqualfragile_ ok
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16:59 iqualfragile_ so far so good, understood
16:59 sfan5 if a server announce was not renewed within X time it gets dropped off the list
16:59 VanessaE *checks uname -a*
16:59 VanessaE yep, that's my machine all right
16:59 sfan5 VanessaE: the 202 status code means "registered successfully"
17:00 VanessaE ok so at least it's not on my end :)
17:00 sfan5 [...] - - [06/Nov/2014:16:59:44 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Windows/5.1-Service_Pack_3 x86)" "-"
17:00 sfan5 seriously
17:00 sfan5 who uses windows for servers
17:01 sfan5 actually
17:01 sfan5 isn't 5.1 XP?
17:01 Calinou stop whining
17:01 VanessaE yep
17:01 Calinou it is
17:01 VanessaE service pack 3 would suggest XP
17:01 sfan5 Calinou: I'm not whining
17:01 sfan5 yet another with XP
17:01 Calinou using Windows on a server is perfectly legitimate choice
17:01 sfan5 Krock's server is a different one
17:01 PenguinDad sfan5: Krock?
17:01 sfan5 no wait
17:01 sfan5 hm
17:01 sfan5 might be krocks server
17:02 shadowzone I ran a server on linux.
17:02 shadowzone Attempted to run one on windows.
17:02 shadowzone That failed successfully
17:02 Calinou I have ran Windows servers successfully for various games
17:02 Calinou it works mostly as well
17:02 Calinou ie. performance is good, and all that
17:02 Calinou may be harder to automate or such
17:02 Calinou but it doesn't mean you can't, or shouldn't do it just because you're on Windows
17:03 sfan5 hm
17:04 VanessaE sfan5: maybe a parsing error of the data for some other server in the list ahead of Fritigern's and mine?
17:04 sfan5 not very possible
17:05 sfan5 if it fails to parse something it will abort
17:05 VanessaE I mean after the database is populated, when it goes to read it back or something?
17:05 VanessaE just grasping at straws :P
17:05 iqualfragile_ Calinou: do you run windows?
17:06 Calinou not right now
17:06 Calinou but I have
17:06 Calinou http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images​/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif :p
17:06 iqualfragile_ Calinou: so can you test something on windows?
17:08 Calinou not for now
17:08 Calinou also can't compile
17:09 iqualfragile_ is there _somebody_  that can
17:09 iqualfragile_ anybody?
17:09 iqualfragile_ no?
17:09 iqualfragile_ so we have not a single windows user?
17:09 VanessaE can't use a virtual machine?
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17:09 iqualfragile_ i don't hve windows
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17:27 nyuszika7h iqualfragile_: I have Windows
17:27 iqualfragile_ nyuszika7h: can you compile minetest on windows?
17:27 nyuszika7h never compiled things on Windows... what do I need?
17:28 Calinou all the libraries… by hand
17:29 PenguinDad iqualfragile_: can't you compile with mingw?
17:29 iqualfragile_ it is actually about testing a patch on windows
17:29 iqualfragile_ i would like to have that tested on windows
17:30 iqualfragile_ … never mind
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17:38 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:38 rubenwardy I gotta try the MLP server. (I don't actually like MLP)
17:38 kaeza hey ruben
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17:38 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy :).
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17:40 Jordach ahhhhhhhhh yisssssss
17:40 rubenwardy !up 98.237.133.224
17:40 MinetestBot 98.237.133.224:30000 is up (163ms)
17:40 Jordach >dark room >f.lux enabled + screen dimming
17:40 Jordach my eyes man this feels good
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17:43 SylvieLorxu I knew I forgot something on my laptop: Redshift
17:44 * PenguinDad uses Redshift as Blueshift
17:44 * Jordach sometimes gets light induced headaches / migraines
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17:45 Krock Down by the river - down by the river.
17:45 Krock Hello people
17:45 FourFire ... and into the river we dive...
17:45 shadowzone "There must be something in the water"?
17:46 PenguinDad I don't know why it would shiver. *doesntknowlyrics*
17:47 Calinou rubenwardy, http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images​/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif
17:48 Calinou Jordach, just make your room not dark…
17:48 Calinou lower screen brightness
17:48 Jordach Calinou, woke up looked straight at the damn sun: instant headache
17:50 iqualfragile_ Jordach: why not redshift?
17:50 shadowzone Wow
17:50 iqualfragile_ shadowzone: ?
17:50 shadowzone Jordach: I am sorry man, that has to suck.
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17:54 FourFire I use f.lux
17:59 iqualfragile_ but thats not open source
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18:12 Calinou f.lux isn't, Redshift is
18:12 Calinou but I don't think Redshift exists for Windows
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18:42 Calinou rubenwardy, https://lut.im/MZ3F7DcA/VmXJxPzC
18:42 rubenwardy Wow
18:43 Calinou has lots of skins
18:43 Calinou /skins for list, /skin name to see name
18:43 Calinou (a few don't work or have missing texture)
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19:33 Calinou http://lichess.org/iQadZRKB → chess, first one to click plays
19:33 Calinou rubenwardy, ^
19:33 rubenwardy Busy
19:33 rubenwardy ==^_^==
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19:42 rubenwardy How do I do s/one/two if one or two contains / ?
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19:46 VanessaE rubenwardy: s:one:two:
19:46 VanessaE use colons or any other viable symbol instead of a slash.
19:46 VanessaE or you can escape the slash
19:47 y I like to use |, but you can use anything you like
19:47 y / is just the "mainstream" separator :P
19:48 rubenwardy Ah
19:48 rubenwardy Wrong syntax
19:48 rubenwardy instead of doing grep -rl scripts/lib . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g'
19:48 rubenwardy I did grep -rl * . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g'
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19:53 rubenwardy I was reorganising this: http://rubenwardy.github.i​o/physics_simulation_kit/
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20:27 Fritigern !up Pacata
20:27 MinetestBot Fritigern: Invalid Address
20:27 Fritigern !up 67.170.30.149:30000
20:27 MinetestBot Fritigern: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
20:27 Fritigern !up 67.170.30.149 30000
20:27 MinetestBot 67.170.30.149:30000 is up (167ms)
20:28 Fritigern Now tell me, MinetestBot, what is invalid about my address?
20:30 Fritigern !up RandomBunchOfWords
20:30 MinetestBot Fritigern: Invalid Address
20:30 Fritigern Ah, i see
20:31 Fritigern If MTB were my bot, i would have rephrades that as "not in list"
20:32 Fritigern or "unknown server"
20:33 sfan5 Fritigern: !up only works with IPs
20:33 Fritigern !server Pacata
20:33 sfan5 it has noting to do with the list
20:33 MinetestBot Fritigern: No results
20:33 Fritigern Well, i just did what Vanessa did :-)
20:34 Fritigern Not knowing that it was wrong, of course :-)
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20:41 Fritigern How can i find out if my server announces the corrrect/correctly formatted info to the server list or not? I mean, is there a debug setting to make it visible, or a tool that i can install?
20:42 sfan5 just check the server list
20:42 sfan5 also there is no reason why it would not announce correctly formatted data
20:42 sfan5 if the JSON is invalid the announce is ignored by the server list
20:43 Fritigern So, changes are that the JSON is invalid then
20:43 Fritigern *chances
20:43 sfan5 maybe
20:46 Fritigern But if the JSON turns out to be indeed invalid, then the next question would be "what made it suddenly invalid in g96fcca4?"
20:46 sfan5 from which IP do you announce?
20:47 sfan5 does your server have IPv6?
20:47 sfan5 a quick grep for your IP turns up nothing
20:47 Fritigern 67.170.30.149, and v6 is off
20:48 sfan5 nothing
20:48 sfan5 can you ping servers.minetest.net?
20:48 Fritigern Heck, i can pull up the page just fin, but i will ping it
20:49 Fritigern I get a nice and consistent "64 bytes from meow.minetest.net (212.38.181.18): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=173 ms"
20:50 sfan5 mhm
20:51 sfan5 Fritigern: run "curl servers.minetest.net/test" please
20:52 sfan5 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:52:07 +0000] "GET /test HTTP/1.1" 404 233 "-" "curl/7.37.1" "-"
20:52 sfan5 you said v6 was off
20:52 Fritigern It returned an XML formatted 404
20:52 sfan5 thats expected
20:52 sfan5 what we just found out is that IPv6 is actually enabled
20:53 sfan5 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:50:39 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-174-g96fcca4-dirty (Linux/3.16.0-24-generic x86_64)" "-"
20:53 Fritigern Well crap. Now why would it use v6 when i disable that in the config?
20:53 sfan5 status code 202 means it announced successfully
20:54 sfan5 Fritigern: since when is it broken?
20:54 sfan5 actually
20:55 sfan5 Fritigern: do you have "server_address" set?
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20:55 Fritigern It broke since g96fcca4, and yes i do
20:55 sfan5 what is it set to?
20:55 Fritigern server_url = http://67.170.30.149/
20:55 sfan5 it probably isn't related to any commit
20:55 sfan5 no
20:55 Fritigern server_address = 67.170.30.149
20:55 sfan5 server_address
20:55 Fritigern Sorry
20:55 sfan5 remove that
20:55 Fritigern Give me time to correct my mistakes, man :-)
20:56 Fritigern Okay, so i commented it out. What do i do now?
20:56 sfan5 restart the server
20:57 Fritigern Here we go!
20:57 sfan5 status code 202
20:57 sfan5 !server Pacata
20:57 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
20:57 sfan5 hm
20:57 sfan5 mhm
20:57 sfan5 I'm pretty sure I know what went wrong
20:58 sfan5 the problem is that the server list wants you to announce from the address you host the server
20:58 sfan5 and 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba is not the same as 67.170.30.149
20:58 sfan5 so you need to:
20:58 sfan5 either
20:58 sfan5 1) set bind_address to 67.170.30.149
20:58 sfan5 or
20:59 sfan5 2) get a (sub)domain that resolves to both your v6 and v4 (aka. both the addr you use for the http request and the addr the server is hosted at)
20:59 sfan5 ^ Fritigern
20:59 Fritigern I'm trying bind_address for now
20:59 sfan5 tell me when it restarted
21:00 Jordach HD on demand TV
21:00 * Jordach drools at 4k support
21:00 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with bandwidth
21:01 Jordach 8mps can handle it
21:01 sfan5 do you even quality
21:01 sfan5 8mbps will suck for 2160p
21:01 Jordach for some reason BBC steaming appears to work fine
21:01 Fritigern sfan5: It keeps failing to bind to the socket. minetestserver is not in the process list. Will restart now
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21:10 Fritigern sfan5: This is interesting: http://pastebin.com/8Ejvk7tt
21:11 sfan5 you are behind a NAT, right?
21:11 sfan5 in that case this won't work
21:11 sfan5 and you have to use 2)
21:13 Fritigern Now, the big question is still "why did it stop working?"
21:13 Fritigern Because it definitely worked before g96fcca4
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21:17 Fritigern It does need noting that i have skipped a few builds. The build that i used before g96fcca4 was one or two weeks old.
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21:25 sfan5 Fritigern: probably because IPv6 was not used for some reason
21:26 Fritigern sfan5: Could the issue be traced back to commit 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b ?
21:26 sfan5 fatal: bad object 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b
21:26 sfan5 does that commit exist
21:27 sfan5 ah
21:27 sfan5 there it is
21:27 Fritigern Sorry, try 209c0dd
21:27 sfan5 Fritigern: possibly
21:27 sfan5 those hashes are the same
21:29 Fritigern Now, i am trying to remember how to go back to a certain commit in git so i can compile an earlier version.
21:29 sfan5 git reset
21:29 Fritigern git reset <commit#>?
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21:31 sfan5 not exactly
21:31 sfan5 git reset <commit hash> --hard
21:31 Fritigern Okay, and that would be a long hash, correct?
21:32 sfan5 both work
21:33 Fritigern Okay, here goes. Going back to the commit before Zeno's IP v6 related commit
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21:34 Salbei_ sfan5: if the ip (or domain) from http request is different than the server_adress the server isn't listed?
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21:36 sfan5 Salbei_: if the IP of the HTTP request is not the server IP (or any of the A/AAAA records of the domain) the server isn't listed
21:36 Salbei_ ok now I know why im not listed
21:37 Salbei_ that is a problem for me
21:38 Salbei_ why don't only check the server_adress?
21:38 sfan5 thats what it does
21:40 Salbei_ no u said it check if server_adress is different of http request ip
21:40 Salbei_ it isn't listed
21:41 sfan5 yes
21:41 Fritigern sfan5: Did that perhaps change recently?
21:41 sfan5 do you mean I should compare server_address with server_address
21:41 sfan5 Fritigern: the IP check was re-enabled 19th sep
21:43 Fritigern Then what changed recently? My server was stil listed two weeks ago, and now it doesn't. I didn;t change stuff, so something else should have changed that messes with things.
21:44 sfan5 it's probably the IPv6 thing
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21:44 sfan5 whatever
21:44 Salbei_ no i mean you shouldn't compare server_address parameter from server and server IP from http request
21:44 sfan5 I'll temporarily disable the check again
21:44 sfan5 Salbei_: but then everyone could pretend to be someone
21:45 Fritigern I reverted to before Zeno's ip v6 commit, and that didn;t help. Going back further
21:45 Salbei_ hum itsn't wrong
21:46 Fritigern sfan5: Were imposters a big problem?
21:46 sfan5 no
21:46 sfan5 but there is no reason to design something insecure just because nobody takes advantage of it
21:48 Salbei_ yes its right
21:49 Salbei_ but an another solution don't exists? like an kind of ping to the server_adress by ur script
21:49 Fritigern I went back to before Zeno's refactor, and i am listed again
21:50 Fritigern I am now at 0.4.10-167-g9e811a9
21:50 Salbei_ im listed too now
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21:51 Fritigern And here i thought i found the commit that got me unlisted
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21:55 Fritigern Well, the transsfer of ownership of Mojang to Microsoft is a fact now. Everything is signed and (final?) payment has been made.
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22:04 Cylus So .... You're a waffle now?
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22:40 Fritigern sfan5: the ipv6 thing still bothers me. Moreover, i tried a few sites which would report and/or convert my ip v6 and i am getting different results from each site.
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22:56 Fritigern sfan5: What if you were to turn off v6 support on server.minetest.net? Would that not force all connections to be v4? In which case you would be able to reliablly use the checks again
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23:27 Fritigern sfan5: I did a couple of tests, and IPv6 is very inconsistent, and can not be used to discover the IPv4 address as this short list shows: http://pastebin.com/bVV7EK6h
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23:31 Fritigern In fact, if my IPv6 address is X, you may detect my IPv6 address as Y, which is what actually did happen :-)
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