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jordan4ibanez |
Uh oh I'm pushing my computer to the absolute limit. Hopefully it doesn't crash. :/ |
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hisforever |
VanessaE is your server down by chance? |
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shadowzone |
Nope |
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shadowzone |
Server_announce is somewhat broke I think. |
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hisforever |
ty Shadow when I try to login I come up with a screen I've never seen before |
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hisforever |
I'[m getting in now |
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Fritigern |
I just found this in the log of my current MT session, dunno what it means. I am not worried, I just want to know what it means.: Irrlicht log: Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 134 |
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jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/GUQCNifn1e4 |
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Fritigern |
Zeno`: I am getting closer to the 1000fps mark :-) https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8fqvt8hqqx52o0/My_build7.png?dl=0 |
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Fritigern |
FPS is closer to 500 when v_range == 75 |
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shmanceloticus |
1000 fps :) Getting prepared for the release of "Minetest: The Matrix" http://www.librador.com/2009/01/16/The-frame-rate-of-the-universe/ |
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Fritigern |
shmanceloticus: Zeno already broke the 1000fps barrier :-) |
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Fritigern |
He got 1400 or so. <== Jealous! |
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Fritigern |
Here's proof :-)) http://imgur.com/2TD0pd8 |
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zlsa |
i get 15fps :/ |
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NemoMT |
zlsa, I feel your pain. |
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Fritigern |
NemoMT: there are tricks to get a higherfps. have a look in minetest.conf.example |
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NemoMT |
Fritigern, will it boost your FPS in multiplayer? |
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Fritigern |
It should |
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Fritigern |
Just cut out some stuff like shaders, nice leaves, etc. |
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NemoMT |
Fritigern, this actually helped me a lot. Thanks a ton! :) |
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Fritigern |
You're welcome :-) |
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FreeLikeGNU |
if only minetest were bundled with a live distro |
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Fritigern |
FreeLikeGNU: Nobody is stopping you |
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FreeLikeGNU |
Now to get nobody out of the way |
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Zeno` |
hah. Well done Fritigern |
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Zeno` |
roar |
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Toothpick |
I was running .3 on a linux box with debian stable. I added the repositories for unstable and upgraded to .4~ and it framerate is now terrible. Stopped shading and framerate improved, but unable to see icons at bottom of screen (nodes?) like the wood, sticks and such |
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Zeno` |
.3 is... 2 years old? |
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Zeno` |
but nvm |
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Zeno` |
what version of 0.4. are you using? |
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Toothpick |
It is .4.10 |
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Toothpick |
It was this install from sid: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/minetest |
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Toothpick |
I don't have access to the computer until Monday, it's in a classroom. |
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Toothpick |
I turned all the video options off on the minetest client, I'll play with it more next week and see the icons will show. |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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LazyJ |
o/ |
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Salbei_ |
hi |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello Salbei_. |
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kaeza |
hi |
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kaeza |
quiet morning, huh? |
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Salbei_ |
im french its 17h24 here :) |
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kaeza |
uruguayan, actually, it's 14:26 here <_< |
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ElectronLibre |
Only 3 hours beetween us, I throught there was more. |
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Salbei_ |
sfan5: do u know who add servers in banlist on servers.minetest.net? |
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sfan5 |
huh? |
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Salbei_ |
cauz i think im banned |
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sfan5 |
there is no server in the banlist currently |
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Salbei_ |
ok |
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Salbei_ |
I can't be in the list since few days |
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ElectronLibre |
Have you checked your minetest.conf ? |
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Salbei_ |
yes |
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Salbei_ |
and i don't had modify somethink since few week |
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Salbei_ |
the last week i was listed |
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VanessaE |
Salbei_: the list is broken again. |
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VanessaE |
my servers aren't showing either |
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Salbei_ |
ok i have to wait? |
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VanessaE |
yeah |
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VanessaE |
at least one other person here has also had his server inexplicably disappear |
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VanessaE |
not sure of the reason. |
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shadowzone |
My server is showing up. |
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VanessaE |
shadowzone: yeah well you're just special ;) |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
hey jojo |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello jojoa1997. |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: lemme try to revert shadows commit |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: wait first. |
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shadowzone |
XD |
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shadowzone |
I don't think so |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: why would his last commit cause only some servers to disappear and not all of them? |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: dunno |
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Jordach |
wat |
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sfan5 |
wow |
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sfan5 |
a Jordach |
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Salbei_ |
sfan5: say here when is reverted plz |
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VanessaE |
inb4 sfan5's "shrug" emoticon :) |
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ElectronLibre |
Perhaps the build used is a cause. |
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sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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VanessaE |
that's the one :) |
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sfan5 |
I have that at ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
not that |
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VanessaE |
lol |
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sfan5 |
!c ":" + "shr:" |
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MinetestBot |
':shr:' |
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sfan5 |
thatz |
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sfan5 |
-z |
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VanessaE |
handy |
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sfan5 |
Salbei_, VanessaE: reverted the commit and restart uwsgi |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
I'm genuinely curious because if it means my servers are behaving out-of-spec, I'd rather fix them than to have the master list be wrong |
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sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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PenguinDad |
Rainbow Shrug! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: ok you think you're so smart, make a "hands on the hips, unfavorable expression on face" one :D |
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sfan5 |
!rainbow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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MinetestBot |
4¯\7_(8ツ)3_/¯ |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: there is no katakana that looks like unfavorable expression |
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sfan5 |
(context: ツ is a katakana) |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
figures :) |
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VanessaE |
I knew it was katakana though |
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VanessaE |
so switch to chinese traditional then :) |
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PenguinDad |
sfan5: Is there kanji for that then? :P |
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sfan5 |
PenguinDad: not sure, ask the unicode charts |
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PenguinDad |
lol |
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VanessaE |
å¢ |
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VanessaE |
that's close |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
( "vomiting of a dog", U+5422 ) |
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shadowzone |
I think my "I have no idea what they are talking about" emoticon is pretty funny. |
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shadowzone |
fO_O |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: ಠ▃ಠ|
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PenguinDad |
¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ |
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sfan5 |
â”»â”â”» ︵╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯︵ â”»â”â”» |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: ã•£ (U+3563, "marsh at the foot of the hills") |
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shadowzone |
°¸° |
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VanessaE |
(yes, this is what happens when I get too bored...) |
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shadowzone |
VanessaE: go boot someone in the rear end for swearing. |
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VanessaE |
shadowzone: no one to boot :P |
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shadowzone |
awww shit |
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VanessaE |
;kick shadowzone swearing |
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VanessaE |
;) |
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shadowzone |
Okay.. |
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VanessaE |
jk :) |
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shadowzone |
That was the plan. |
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VanessaE |
too lazy to ;op first :P |
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PenguinDad |
rofl https://soundcloud.com/alexmashup/weediam-tell-overture |
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sfan5 |
!op VanessaE |
| 16:48 |
sfan5 |
look |
| 16:48 |
sfan5 |
I did it for you |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 16:48 |
shadowzone |
XD |
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Calinou |
<shadowzone> fO_O |
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* Calinou |
gets the pitchfork from shadowzone |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
O_O |
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* sfan5 |
forks Calinou |
| 16:48 |
shadowzone |
um.. |
| 16:48 |
shadowzone |
fO_O |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
ffO_O |
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shadowzone |
EO_O |
| 16:49 |
shadowzone |
That is the pitchfork |
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shadowzone |
---EO_O |
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* ElectronLibre |
finds these O very interesting. O_O" |
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shadowzone |
O_O |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: does it work with the serverlist now? |
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PenguinDad |
0_O |
| 16:49 |
shadowzone |
Um.. |
| 16:49 |
shadowzone |
O_+ |
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Salbei_ |
sfan not better |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: nope.avi |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
which is rather odd. |
| 16:50 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: which IP does your server use to communicate with servers.minetest.net? |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: 192.99.11.10 |
| 16:50 |
sfan5 |
(asking because servers.minetest.net has v6 too) |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
and I'm pretty sure you have v6 too |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
as for ipv6...um... either fe80::4e72:b9ff:fe66:169/64 or 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1/64 ? |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
fe80:: is local |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
(first is Scope:Link, the second is Scope:Global) |
| 16:52 |
shadowzone |
Oooh |
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* Calinou |
enabled IPv6 just recently |
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Calinou |
it looks like some websites use it in a transparent way |
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shadowzone |
Okay |
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sfan5 |
s/some/every/ s/websites/website/ s/use/uses/ |
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shadowzone |
Should I enable it then? |
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sfan5 |
it does not matter whether you connect via v4 or v6 |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: my server shows the following from ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/VdSWi8nn |
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VanessaE |
well, just the stuff that mentions ipv6 anyway |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
(I don't understand ipv6 at all really) |
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iqualfragile_ |
sfan5: is there some way to have some trusted ips in the serverlist |
| 16:54 |
sfan5 |
iqualfragile_: y that? |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: fe80:: is always local |
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iqualfragile_ |
where the script does not check if the server is actually up |
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sfan5 |
why? |
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iqualfragile_ |
so you can have socket activated servers |
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iqualfragile_ |
without being ultra hacky |
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sfan5 |
umm |
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sfan5 |
all you need to do is start the server, announce, shut down |
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sfan5 |
and do that in the normal announce interval to make sure the server stays on the list |
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iqualfragile_ |
sfan5: so there is an announce interval… |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: your server is running, right? |
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iqualfragile_ |
this makes things harder |
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sfan5 |
harder? |
| 16:57 |
sfan5 |
no |
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iqualfragile_ |
yes, you need to start and stop the server all the time |
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sfan5 |
actually you don't |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: yup, it's quite up. |
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VanessaE |
!up Creative |
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MinetestBot |
VanessaE: Invalid Address |
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iqualfragile_ |
without you would be able to just put some json |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
!up 192.99.11.10 30000 |
| 16:57 |
MinetestBot |
192.99.11.10:30000 is up (82ms) |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: this? 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 - - [06/Nov/2014:16:57:34 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-149-gdbf97af (Linux/3.10.23-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 x86_64)" "-" |
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VanessaE |
(well creative was having trouble yesterday but that was a mod crashing; the others were unaffected) |
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Salbei_ |
calinou its me the website user |
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sfan5 |
iqualfragile_: it is actually sufficient to have a listening "Connection" |
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Salbei_ |
what is the problem with thus? |
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sfan5 |
the server list only checks that |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: yeah, that looks like my ipv6 address shown alongside "Scope:Global". |
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iqualfragile_ |
ah, so the server list polls in regular intervalls? |
| 16:58 |
sfan5 |
noi |
| 16:58 |
sfan5 |
-i |
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sfan5 |
the server list doesn't poll at all |
| 16:59 |
sfan5 |
the server list checks if the server is up if you announce |
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iqualfragile_ |
ok |
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iqualfragile_ |
so far so good, understood |
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sfan5 |
if a server announce was not renewed within X time it gets dropped off the list |
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VanessaE |
*checks uname -a* |
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VanessaE |
yep, that's my machine all right |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: the 202 status code means "registered successfully" |
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VanessaE |
ok so at least it's not on my end :) |
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sfan5 |
[...] - - [06/Nov/2014:16:59:44 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Windows/5.1-Service_Pack_3 x86)" "-" |
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sfan5 |
seriously |
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sfan5 |
who uses windows for servers |
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sfan5 |
actually |
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sfan5 |
isn't 5.1 XP? |
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Calinou |
stop whining |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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Calinou |
it is |
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VanessaE |
service pack 3 would suggest XP |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: I'm not whining |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
yet another with XP |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
using Windows on a server is perfectly legitimate choice |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
Krock's server is a different one |
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PenguinDad |
sfan5: Krock? |
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sfan5 |
no wait |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
might be krocks server |
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shadowzone |
I ran a server on linux. |
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shadowzone |
Attempted to run one on windows. |
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shadowzone |
That failed successfully |
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Calinou |
I have ran Windows servers successfully for various games |
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Calinou |
it works mostly as well |
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Calinou |
ie. performance is good, and all that |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
may be harder to automate or such |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
but it doesn't mean you can't, or shouldn't do it just because you're on Windows |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: maybe a parsing error of the data for some other server in the list ahead of Fritigern's and mine? |
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sfan5 |
not very possible |
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sfan5 |
if it fails to parse something it will abort |
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VanessaE |
I mean after the database is populated, when it goes to read it back or something? |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
just grasping at straws :P |
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iqualfragile_ |
Calinou: do you run windows? |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
not right now |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
but I have |
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Calinou |
http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif :p |
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iqualfragile_ |
Calinou: so can you test something on windows? |
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Calinou |
not for now |
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Calinou |
also can't compile |
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iqualfragile_ |
is there _somebody_ that can |
| 17:09 |
iqualfragile_ |
anybody? |
| 17:09 |
iqualfragile_ |
no? |
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iqualfragile_ |
so we have not a single windows user? |
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VanessaE |
can't use a virtual machine? |
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iqualfragile_ |
i don't hve windows |
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iqualfragile_ |
not even in a vm |
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nyuszika7h |
iqualfragile_: I have Windows |
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iqualfragile_ |
nyuszika7h: can you compile minetest on windows? |
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nyuszika7h |
never compiled things on Windows... what do I need? |
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Calinou |
all the libraries… by hand |
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PenguinDad |
iqualfragile_: can't you compile with mingw? |
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iqualfragile_ |
it is actually about testing a patch on windows |
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iqualfragile_ |
i would like to have that tested on windows |
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iqualfragile_ |
… never mind |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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rubenwardy |
I gotta try the MLP server. (I don't actually like MLP) |
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kaeza |
hey ruben |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello rubenwardy :). |
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Jordach |
ahhhhhhhhh yisssssss |
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rubenwardy |
!up 98.237.133.224 |
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MinetestBot |
98.237.133.224:30000 is up (163ms) |
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Jordach |
>dark room >f.lux enabled + screen dimming |
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Jordach |
my eyes man this feels good |
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SylvieLorxu |
I knew I forgot something on my laptop: Redshift |
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* PenguinDad |
uses Redshift as Blueshift |
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* Jordach |
sometimes gets light induced headaches / migraines |
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Krock |
Down by the river - down by the river. |
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Krock |
Hello people |
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FourFire |
... and into the river we dive... |
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shadowzone |
"There must be something in the water"? |
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PenguinDad |
I don't know why it would shiver. *doesntknowlyrics* |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif |
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Calinou |
Jordach, just make your room not dark… |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
lower screen brightness |
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Jordach |
Calinou, woke up looked straight at the damn sun: instant headache |
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iqualfragile_ |
Jordach: why not redshift? |
| 17:50 |
shadowzone |
Wow |
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iqualfragile_ |
shadowzone: ? |
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shadowzone |
Jordach: I am sorry man, that has to suck. |
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FourFire |
I use f.lux |
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iqualfragile_ |
but thats not open source |
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Calinou |
f.lux isn't, Redshift is |
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Calinou |
but I don't think Redshift exists for Windows |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, https://lut.im/MZ3F7DcA/VmXJxPzC |
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rubenwardy |
Wow |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
has lots of skins |
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Calinou |
/skins for list, /skin name to see name |
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Calinou |
(a few don't work or have missing texture) |
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Calinou |
http://lichess.org/iQadZRKB → chess, first one to click plays |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, ^ |
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rubenwardy |
Busy |
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rubenwardy |
==^_^== |
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rubenwardy |
How do I do s/one/two if one or two contains / ? |
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VanessaE |
rubenwardy: s:one:two: |
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VanessaE |
use colons or any other viable symbol instead of a slash. |
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VanessaE |
or you can escape the slash |
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y |
I like to use |, but you can use anything you like |
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y |
/ is just the "mainstream" separator :P |
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rubenwardy |
Ah |
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rubenwardy |
Wrong syntax |
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rubenwardy |
instead of doing grep -rl scripts/lib . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g' |
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rubenwardy |
I did grep -rl * . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g' |
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rubenwardy |
I was reorganising this: http://rubenwardy.github.io/physics_simulation_kit/ |
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Fritigern |
!up Pacata |
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MinetestBot |
Fritigern: Invalid Address |
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Fritigern |
!up 67.170.30.149:30000 |
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MinetestBot |
Fritigern: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
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Fritigern |
!up 67.170.30.149 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
67.170.30.149:30000 is up (167ms) |
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Fritigern |
Now tell me, MinetestBot, what is invalid about my address? |
| 20:30 |
Fritigern |
!up RandomBunchOfWords |
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MinetestBot |
Fritigern: Invalid Address |
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Fritigern |
Ah, i see |
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Fritigern |
If MTB were my bot, i would have rephrades that as "not in list" |
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Fritigern |
or "unknown server" |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: !up only works with IPs |
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Fritigern |
!server Pacata |
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sfan5 |
it has noting to do with the list |
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MinetestBot |
Fritigern: No results |
| 20:33 |
Fritigern |
Well, i just did what Vanessa did :-) |
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Fritigern |
Not knowing that it was wrong, of course :-) |
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* sfan5 |
gives cities a city |
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Fritigern |
How can i find out if my server announces the corrrect/correctly formatted info to the server list or not? I mean, is there a debug setting to make it visible, or a tool that i can install? |
| 20:42 |
sfan5 |
just check the server list |
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sfan5 |
also there is no reason why it would not announce correctly formatted data |
| 20:42 |
sfan5 |
if the JSON is invalid the announce is ignored by the server list |
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Fritigern |
So, changes are that the JSON is invalid then |
| 20:43 |
Fritigern |
*chances |
| 20:43 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
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Fritigern |
But if the JSON turns out to be indeed invalid, then the next question would be "what made it suddenly invalid in g96fcca4?" |
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sfan5 |
from which IP do you announce? |
| 20:47 |
sfan5 |
does your server have IPv6? |
| 20:47 |
sfan5 |
a quick grep for your IP turns up nothing |
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Fritigern |
67.170.30.149, and v6 is off |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
nothing |
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sfan5 |
can you ping servers.minetest.net? |
| 20:48 |
Fritigern |
Heck, i can pull up the page just fin, but i will ping it |
| 20:49 |
Fritigern |
I get a nice and consistent "64 bytes from meow.minetest.net (212.38.181.18): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=173 ms" |
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sfan5 |
mhm |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: run "curl servers.minetest.net/test" please |
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sfan5 |
2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:52:07 +0000] "GET /test HTTP/1.1" 404 233 "-" "curl/7.37.1" "-" |
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sfan5 |
you said v6 was off |
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Fritigern |
It returned an XML formatted 404 |
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sfan5 |
thats expected |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
what we just found out is that IPv6 is actually enabled |
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sfan5 |
2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:50:39 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-174-g96fcca4-dirty (Linux/3.16.0-24-generic x86_64)" "-" |
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Fritigern |
Well crap. Now why would it use v6 when i disable that in the config? |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
status code 202 means it announced successfully |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: since when is it broken? |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
actually |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: do you have "server_address" set? |
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Fritigern |
It broke since g96fcca4, and yes i do |
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sfan5 |
what is it set to? |
| 20:55 |
Fritigern |
server_url = http://67.170.30.149/ |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
it probably isn't related to any commit |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 20:55 |
Fritigern |
server_address = 67.170.30.149 |
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sfan5 |
server_address |
| 20:55 |
Fritigern |
Sorry |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
remove that |
| 20:55 |
Fritigern |
Give me time to correct my mistakes, man :-) |
| 20:56 |
Fritigern |
Okay, so i commented it out. What do i do now? |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
restart the server |
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Fritigern |
Here we go! |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
status code 202 |
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sfan5 |
!server Pacata |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: No results |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
mhm |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
I'm pretty sure I know what went wrong |
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sfan5 |
the problem is that the server list wants you to announce from the address you host the server |
| 20:58 |
sfan5 |
and 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba is not the same as 67.170.30.149 |
| 20:58 |
sfan5 |
so you need to: |
| 20:58 |
sfan5 |
either |
| 20:58 |
sfan5 |
1) set bind_address to 67.170.30.149 |
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sfan5 |
or |
| 20:59 |
sfan5 |
2) get a (sub)domain that resolves to both your v6 and v4 (aka. both the addr you use for the http request and the addr the server is hosted at) |
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sfan5 |
^ Fritigern |
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Fritigern |
I'm trying bind_address for now |
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sfan5 |
tell me when it restarted |
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Jordach |
HD on demand TV |
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* Jordach |
drools at 4k support |
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* sfan5 |
slaps Jordach with bandwidth |
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Jordach |
8mps can handle it |
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sfan5 |
do you even quality |
| 21:01 |
sfan5 |
8mbps will suck for 2160p |
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Jordach |
for some reason BBC steaming appears to work fine |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: It keeps failing to bind to the socket. minetestserver is not in the process list. Will restart now |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: This is interesting: http://pastebin.com/8Ejvk7tt |
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sfan5 |
you are behind a NAT, right? |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
in that case this won't work |
| 21:11 |
sfan5 |
and you have to use 2) |
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Fritigern |
Now, the big question is still "why did it stop working?" |
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Fritigern |
Because it definitely worked before g96fcca4 |
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Fritigern |
It does need noting that i have skipped a few builds. The build that i used before g96fcca4 was one or two weeks old. |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: probably because IPv6 was not used for some reason |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: Could the issue be traced back to commit 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b ? |
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sfan5 |
fatal: bad object 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b |
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sfan5 |
does that commit exist |
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sfan5 |
ah |
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sfan5 |
there it is |
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Fritigern |
Sorry, try 209c0dd |
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sfan5 |
Fritigern: possibly |
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sfan5 |
those hashes are the same |
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Fritigern |
Now, i am trying to remember how to go back to a certain commit in git so i can compile an earlier version. |
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sfan5 |
git reset |
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Fritigern |
git reset <commit#>? |
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sfan5 |
not exactly |
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sfan5 |
git reset <commit hash> --hard |
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Fritigern |
Okay, and that would be a long hash, correct? |
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sfan5 |
both work |
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Fritigern |
Okay, here goes. Going back to the commit before Zeno's IP v6 related commit |
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Salbei_ |
sfan5: if the ip (or domain) from http request is different than the server_adress the server isn't listed? |
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sfan5 |
Salbei_: if the IP of the HTTP request is not the server IP (or any of the A/AAAA records of the domain) the server isn't listed |
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Salbei_ |
ok now I know why im not listed |
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Salbei_ |
that is a problem for me |
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Salbei_ |
why don't only check the server_adress? |
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sfan5 |
thats what it does |
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Salbei_ |
no u said it check if server_adress is different of http request ip |
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Salbei_ |
it isn't listed |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: Did that perhaps change recently? |
| 21:41 |
sfan5 |
do you mean I should compare server_address with server_address |
| 21:41 |
sfan5 |
Fritigern: the IP check was re-enabled 19th sep |
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Fritigern |
Then what changed recently? My server was stil listed two weeks ago, and now it doesn't. I didn;t change stuff, so something else should have changed that messes with things. |
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sfan5 |
it's probably the IPv6 thing |
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sfan5 |
whatever |
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Salbei_ |
no i mean you shouldn't compare server_address parameter from server and server IP from http request |
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sfan5 |
I'll temporarily disable the check again |
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sfan5 |
Salbei_: but then everyone could pretend to be someone |
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Fritigern |
I reverted to before Zeno's ip v6 commit, and that didn;t help. Going back further |
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Salbei_ |
hum itsn't wrong |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: Were imposters a big problem? |
| 21:46 |
sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
but there is no reason to design something insecure just because nobody takes advantage of it |
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Salbei_ |
yes its right |
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Salbei_ |
but an another solution don't exists? like an kind of ping to the server_adress by ur script |
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Fritigern |
I went back to before Zeno's refactor, and i am listed again |
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Fritigern |
I am now at 0.4.10-167-g9e811a9 |
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Salbei_ |
im listed too now |
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Fritigern |
And here i thought i found the commit that got me unlisted |
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Fritigern |
Well, the transsfer of ownership of Mojang to Microsoft is a fact now. Everything is signed and (final?) payment has been made. |
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Cylus |
So .... You're a waffle now? |
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mmh, waffles yumyum |
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sfan5: the ipv6 thing still bothers me. Moreover, i tried a few sites which would report and/or convert my ip v6 and i am getting different results from each site. |
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sfan5: What if you were to turn off v6 support on server.minetest.net? Would that not force all connections to be v4? In which case you would be able to reliablly use the checks again |
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Fritigern |
sfan5: I did a couple of tests, and IPv6 is very inconsistent, and can not be used to discover the IPv4 address as this short list shows: http://pastebin.com/bVV7EK6h |
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Fritigern |
In fact, if my IPv6 address is X, you may detect my IPv6 address as Y, which is what actually did happen :-) |
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hello |
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