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00:05 Sokomine hisforever: no problem :-) i just first didn't recognize that you where trying to speak to me
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00:58 hisforever Great Soko this is a great place to learn that I flub up on typing lol
00:58 hisforever ..
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01:18 Cylus I hear some people here run IRC servers. Would someone knowledgeable in such matters be able to help me get a friend and I's servers connected? We don't seem to be able to connect.
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01:50 Salbei_ someone use irc mod here?
01:51 Salbei_ because i have this problem http://paste.kde.org/p8bufddpf
01:52 Salbei_ lua-socket & lua-socker-dev are installed
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02:27 freelikegnu .names
02:27 freelikegnu /doh
03:13 diemartin Salbei_, did you install luasocket?
03:46 hmmmm one year I sware I'm going to insert an easter egg into minetest_game somehow
03:47 OldCoder It should be simple hmmmm
03:47 OldCoder A special skin perhaps
03:47 hmmmm hahaha
03:47 OldCoder That has code that changes it
03:47 OldCoder On Christmas it becomes St. Nicholas
03:47 hmmmm easter eggs are kinda hard when it's open source
03:47 OldCoder Oh?
03:48 * OldCoder is confident that they are possible
03:48 hmmmm possible != hard
03:48 hmmmm possible != easy rather
03:48 OldCoder possible may be < == or >
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03:48 hmmmm I have to somehow add code to minetest_game that looks normal to everyone, yet contains a bug, a bug that carries out the actions of my intended easter egg
03:49 diemartin hmmmm, grab some random pull that adds a shitton of code, and slap in something in all the mess
03:49 hmmmm nah
03:49 hmmmm in any case I'm confident I'd be able to do this no problem in the core
03:49 hmmmm well.
03:49 hmmmm i'll just shut up and let you see it when it happens
03:50 diemartin for extra fun, `unexpand $(find . -name '*.cpp')` <_<
03:50 hmmmm haha
03:50 hmmmm no code obsfucation
03:51 hmmmm I'm not going to elaborate, but my thought is to have some sort of innocuous error string encoded in such a way that performing an invalid memory access would make it execute the easter egg
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03:51 hmmmm and i have to make it somehow not execute under unsupported architectures
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03:53 hmmmm tough, sure, but i have a whole year to do this.
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04:14 Miner_48er who runs the just test server? 87.110.8.195
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04:33 compunerd_nick We've found a bug on my server with hovers from the carbone game, if you place the hover next to a wall, you can use it to get through the wall. Has anyone else encountered this or have any idea how to resolve it. I can edit LUA a little, but I don't think I'm versed well enough to fix this issue.
04:35 compunerd_nick I know it's going to have to be fixed with the onplace(pos) function, just not sure how to get the pos to back out at least one block from the wall
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05:08 compunerd_nick Another bug I'm trying to work out is with moreblocks, for some reason, when you dig a brick slab, it gives you 9 moreblocks:slab_clay_brick instead of 1 moreblocks:slab_brick like it's supposed to be
05:09 compunerd_nick and moreblocks:slab_clay_brick is an unknown item
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09:29 Krock Lel. I keep timing out on a local network address
09:30 Calinou what is the Ubuntu package for redis library?
09:30 Krock hiredis?
09:30 Calinou O_o
09:30 Calinou why that name
09:30 Calinou that doesn't exist
09:31 Calinou libhiredis
09:33 Calinou my Ubuntu builds now support Redis
09:33 Krock congrats. mine only support sqlite and dummy :)
09:34 sfan5 Calinou: redis is the server sofware, hiredis is one of the C libs that allows minetest to connect to redis
09:47 Calinou Krock, doesn't yours support at least LevelDB?
09:48 Krock Calinou, how could I? Haven't found a working LevelDB lib yet
09:48 Calinou by stripping binaries from debug symbol, download size went from 12.2 MB to 10.9 MB
09:48 Calinou (I'm surprised there are some in the release builds at all)
09:48 Calinou some projects always strip in their Makefile
09:49 Calinou also the Minetest binary grew a lot
09:49 Calinou in 0.3 era it was 4 or 5 MB I think
09:49 Calinou 10.9 MB now, only for the binary
09:49 Krock wut? it's still 5MB
09:50 Krock wait. actually 3.54 MB
09:50 Calinou my Minetest binary is over 10 MB
09:50 Calinou I'm not on Windows…
09:50 Krock :P
09:50 Calinou server is 4,3 MB unstripped
09:50 Calinou I'm uploading Minetest + separate mapper and NodeBoxEditor builds
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09:51 Krock eww. I wish there was a new minetest mapper build
09:51 Calinou I can't make Windows builds :/
09:56 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8234292​2/minetest/mapper-Ubuntu-1410-amd64.tar.xz
09:56 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922​/minetest/Minetest-Ubuntu-1410-amd64.tar.xz
09:56 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/m​inetest/NodeBoxEditor-Ubuntu-1410-amd64.tar.xz
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10:14 CaveJohnson Calinou: hi :)
10:14 Calinou hi CaveJohnson
10:14 Calinou do you play chess?
10:15 CaveJohnson not that much, i how to play it though
10:15 CaveJohnson *know how
10:15 CaveJohnson but unfortuently i have to be doing revision ;_;
10:15 CaveJohnson i completely forgot about it
10:16 Calinou http://lichess.org/ is cool
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10:17 CaveJohnson :O
10:17 CaveJohnson and open source
10:17 CaveJohnson nice
10:17 CaveJohnson huh, scala
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10:39 Calinou Scala is made in France (-:
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10:40 PenguinDad Calinou: after using upx my minetest executable is only 3,4 MB
10:42 CaveJohnson Calinou: :O
10:42 CaveJohnson TIL
10:43 Calinou PenguinDad, can compressed binaries be run without speed decrease or additional dependency required?
10:44 Calinou won't use it anyway
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10:51 PenguinDad They can't be run without a speed decrease and I'm not sure about external dependencies
10:51 DinDinDin Hello, has anyone else experienced this issue and does anyone know the fix ? http://redd.it/2kxlia
10:52 Calinou hi
10:52 Calinou DinDinDin, are you using an “exotic” language/input like Japanese?
10:52 DinDinDin nope
10:56 sfan5 Calinou: your definiton of "exotic" is weird
10:56 CaveJohnson i think Calinou meant exotic as in very different characters from other languages
10:56 sfan5 DinDinDin: keyboard layout?
10:56 CaveJohnson and far, far more
10:57 DinDinDin sfan5: Bosnian , usual letters with đšžćč added and qwertz
10:57 exio4 that is probably why Scala is so ugly then
10:57 sfan5 maybe irrlicht doesn't get along with that
10:57 CaveJohnson wow rude exio4
10:58 Krock DinDinDin, is freetype and gettext compiled in your binary?
10:59 CaveJohnson (use minetest --version :P)
10:59 exio4 isn't that the same problem as with azerty?
11:00 DinDinDin Yep, they're both =1
11:00 CaveJohnson huh
11:06 DinDinDin Wow , I fixed it by changing my input language to de
11:06 DinDinDin (in windows)
11:07 DinDinDin Where do I report bugs?
11:07 NemoMT If you're admin of a server, is there a way to tell if a player has multiple accounts on that server?
11:08 NemoMT Have a little multi-account issue on the server I'm moderating. :/
11:11 PenguinDad DinDinDin: sounds like an already known irrlicht bug
11:11 DinDinDin ah okeyo
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11:21 LazyJ NemoMT, you would need access to the server logs to compare the IP address to the player names. Even then there are often cases where an IP that has multiple players associated with it is a public place like a school, library, internet cafe, etc. where the multiple players truly are "multiple" and not just one individual with multiple login names.
11:22 NemoMT LazyJ, thank you. Unfortunately I do not have access to the logs. I'll contact the server owner to review them.
11:23 LazyJ Unfortunately, Minetest lacks many useful, in-game, administration tools.
11:24 LazyJ As if it is assumed that all admins are server-ops. :/
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11:25 john_minetest hi
11:27 DinDinDin how do I show my FPS
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11:27 PenguinDad DinDinDin: Press F5
11:27 DinDinDin thx
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13:27 Megaf Hi everyone
13:27 Megaf Hi GhostDoge
13:27 Megaf folks, lets all join Diaspora!
13:27 Megaf https://diasp.net/i/c6e3084917bf
13:27 Megaf do so and help me in this dilema, https://diasp.net/posts/27667
13:28 Megaf ^ LazyJ
13:28 Megaf Diaspora = Open Source and Free Social Network
13:30 exio4 o/ another diaspora user
13:30 GhostDoge o/ YADU
13:30 Megaf exio4: yep :)
13:31 Megaf I loved Diaspora
13:31 Megaf it has everything I want and dont have everything I dont want
13:31 Megaf it's perfect!
13:31 exio4 I haven't been 'online' for a few years though :/
13:31 Megaf years? Are they that old?
13:32 LazyJ The page seems a bit odd,... at least from my end with Firefox. Is it supposed to be a white page with only about 9 blue links?
13:32 exio4 Megaf: I got an account in ≈2011
13:32 Megaf LazyJ: it's white, but there should be more stuff
13:32 Megaf refresh it maybe?
13:32 john_minetest Why would you need a social network when you got IRC?
13:33 Megaf john_minetest: to share photos
13:33 exio4 and why tox when you need irc!
13:33 john_minetest mediacru.sh, picpaste, imgur, ...
13:33 exio4 privacy
13:33 john_minetest exio4: Tox can do phone.
13:33 Megaf john_minetest: so you dont have facebook neither twitter, right?
13:33 john_minetest Yep.
13:33 Megaf good for you
13:34 Megaf really :)
13:34 exio4 I don't have facebook!
13:34 john_minetest No faceboook, twitter, g+, linkedin, tumblr, imgur and similar.
13:34 exio4 and my twitter account is only used for SMS hackery
13:34 Megaf I dont have neither of you in my Tox
13:35 Megaf isnt that supposed to be a hash?
13:36 exio4 tox dns :P
13:36 Megaf added
13:36 LazyJ "Opera" loaded the page. Reading...
13:37 Megaf LazyJ: do oyu have a diaspora?
13:38 LazyJ No, I've got a Google+ account, but I'm not very good at the "social" part of social media. :p
13:39 Megaf me neither
13:40 LazyJ As for the laptops, same advise as desktops - as much RAM, HD, and cpu as you can afford.
13:40 LazyJ The chromebook looks too thin and easy to break.
13:40 LazyJ *same advice as...
13:41 john_minetest But battery life is important for laptops, too. Also stability of the hardware.
13:41 GhostDoge Megaf: I have to wait for the federation :/
13:41 john_minetest If you got the money, buy some business model.
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13:41 LazyJ Battery life always seems to be a crimp in the works.
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13:42 exio4 anyone using twister?
13:43 Megaf not me
13:43 Megaf PenguinDad: what do you mean?
13:43 Megaf LazyJ: the Toshiba one is the cheapes and has a decent battery life
13:44 PenguinDad Megaf: your post isn't visible on my pod yet
13:44 exio4 I wonder how you are going to live without fullHD?
13:44 Megaf LazyJ: 5.5 hours
13:44 exio4 ;P
13:44 john_minetest LazyJ: I got between 5 and 7 hour of battery life when not gaming.
13:44 john_minetest And a full HD screen :D
13:46 Megaf my mid 2010 macbook pro still lasts for up to 13 hours
13:46 Megaf with a core2duo and nvidia 320m
13:46 Megaf (when not player)
13:46 Megaf thats with low brightness and browsing using Safari on wifi
13:47 Megaf gtg, brb later
13:48 LazyJ If you reformat the hard-drives on these laptops, what laptop keyboard functions will be lost (all that blue, Fn key stuff) as well as the manufacturer's helper programs that step down the cpu, and other power-saving functions?
13:50 LazyJ With brand new laptops I always figured I was "locked-in" with what the manufacturer put together for it.
13:51 LazyJ For my old laptops, I'm less concerned if they don't work like the manufacturer intended so reformatting the hard drives and installing Linux didn't bother me so much.
13:52 exio4 the 'intel gpu' which isn't a real intel gpu I have in my laptop is pure crap
13:52 LazyJ So long as the new laptop worked, as advertised, for the amount of money I spent on it, I didn't mess with it. I spent that much money for a fully functioning tool, not a tinker toy.
13:52 exio4 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
13:52 exio4 the only bad thing about this ^
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14:08 LittleJoe_ anybody here know how to use this: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper#usage
14:09 LittleJoe_ specifically where you put the [options]
14:11 LittleJoe_ anybody?
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14:21 Krock LittleJoe_, I would like to help you but I'm stuck at a version from 2012...
14:21 LittleJoe_ is it the same syntax?
14:21 LittleJoe_ that's all I need : )
14:21 Krock nope, many things changed
14:21 LittleJoe_ ok
14:21 LittleJoe_ oldcoder is helping me too : )
14:21 Krock "s two mandatory paremeters, "
14:21 Krock "paremeters"
14:21 LittleJoe_ yup
14:21 LittleJoe_ in and out
14:22 Krock "pare"
14:22 Krock dat typo
14:22 Krock LittleJoe_, I guess [options] euals "Parameters"
14:22 Krock *qeuals
14:22 Krock *equals
14:22 LittleJoe_ yup : )
14:23 LittleJoe_ it says it can't find ./minetestmapper....
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14:51 kaeza ooohohohoho
14:52 kaeza "I am writing this mail to you with tears and sorrow from my heart. My name is Miss Kaweria Kipkalya Kones, 23yrs old female and I held from Kenya."
14:52 OldCoder That is a lot of k's
14:52 JohnnyComeL8ly I, err... where do you hold from now?
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14:57 PenguinDad kaeza: kk
14:59 JohnnyComeL8ly PenguinDad: Or, kkk?
14:59 paramat Sokomine, try the latest version in mgv6 and let me know if it can be improved https://github.com/paramat/randomblend (obsidian = building, sandstone = front of building flat area) then i will write the 'mark inside building area' function for you
15:01 PenguinDad JohnnyComeL8ly: no I'm not about the Kingdom Kupa Keep :P
15:02 PenguinDad s/not/not talking/
15:02 JohnnyComeL8ly PenguinDad: I thought you were talking about Kingdom KDE Keep.
15:02 PenguinDad lol
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly PenguinDad: Do you use linux?
15:03 PenguinDad yes I do
15:04 JohnnyComeL8ly Me too, but I don't have my desktop set up for the reason it was ousted for company's sake. :(
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16:24 ElectronLibre Hello everyone.
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16:32 PenguinDad Hi ElectronLibre
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16:36 JohnnyComeL8ly ElectronLibre: Hi.
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16:46 Calinou [sudo] password for <user>:
16:46 Calinou Désolé, veuillez réessayer.
16:46 Calinou :o
16:47 Calinou sudo's wrong password message is finally translated
16:47 ElectronLibre Yeah :D!
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16:49 ElectronLibre But which version of sudo are you using? And which distro?
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16:56 Erthome Happy Day Between the Years Wishes All :-)
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17:03 Calinou ElectronLibre, Xubuntu 14.10
17:03 Calinou Version de sudo 1.8.9p5
17:03 Calinou Sudoers policy plugin version 1.8.9p5
17:03 Calinou Sudoers file grammar version 43
17:03 Calinou Sudoers I/O plugin version 1.8.9p5
17:03 Calinou was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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17:03 PenguinDad ShadowBot!
17:03 Calinou thanks for not suggesting pastebin.com
17:04 ElectronLibre Ok. Use pastie.org instead.
17:04 Krock "Use a pastebin"
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17:14 Aragas Hello. Is there any documentation on Minetest multiplayer protocol?
17:15 Krock yes, see /doc/
17:15 Krock protocol.txt
17:15 Aragas Thanks
17:16 Krock it's quite simple. for more information, you'll need to look up the codes
17:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Krock: I don't have that in my /doc folder...
17:16 Krock It comes with the Git
17:17 Krock https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest/tree/master/doc
17:17 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, I had precompiled.
17:17 JohnnyComeL8ly If that is the right phrase...
17:17 Aragas Okay. Thank you for such an quick answer ;D
17:17 Krock np
17:21 CaveJohnson hi Calinou
17:21 Calinou hi CaveJohnson :)
17:22 CaveJohnson you alright? :)
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17:31 Calinou yes
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17:42 Megaf Hi everyone
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17:43 Megaf ElectronLibre: Hi there
17:44 ElectronLibre Hello Megaf :).
17:44 Megaf ElectronLibre: do you use Diaspora?
17:44 ElectronLibre Hum, no, I've heard about it but I don't exactly what it is.
17:47 Megaf LazyJ: I think no funcions will be lost, Debian works fine on my EeePC, Macbook Pro and on my girldfrieds Samsung laptop, no fn key has been lost at all. I'm more concerned about boot loader stuff, if htey boot via USB, if their BIOS will work properly or if their EFI will be compatible.
17:49 paramat nore, is it possible you could merge https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/328 ? =) now rebased and squashed
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17:50 Megaf ElectronLibre: It's an opensource and free social network
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17:53 Calinou hi Megaf
17:53 Calinou More Blocks update has slopes
17:54 Krock kilbith, your ladder looks like rails :3
17:54 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Boats mod improve y motion. Smaller collision box. Reverse turn with negative velocity only. Smooth turning. Enable underwater higher acceleration d57cb0a http://git.io/5GhPVA (2014-10-29T10:54:39Z)
17:54 kilbith s/your/a
17:54 Krock paramat, I guess that was a yes :P
17:54 paramat \O/
17:55 paramat thanks so much!
17:56 Krock kilbith, hmm no. today's ladders don't have those 'spikes' on the left and right side
17:57 kilbith today...
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17:57 kilbith everyone can have his critic for everything anyways
17:57 Krock :)
17:58 ElectronLibre Megaf, If it's a social network, I won't ever join it.
17:58 Calinou Krock, it's very close to Minecraft's ladder
17:58 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: why?
17:58 kilbith today the ladders are made in wood, btw
17:58 Krock Calinou, which one? The current?
17:58 kilbith are not*
17:59 Krock btw, kilbith, what's the license of your grass textures?
17:59 JohnnyComeL8ly ElectronLibre: I'm with you on the social networking.
17:59 Megaf ElectronLibre: the cool thing is. It runs on several computers around the globe
17:59 kilbith there's no license
17:59 Megaf its distribuited and descentralized
17:59 Calinou no license = we can't do anything…
18:00 Megaf they call each part of it pods,, and you can run a pod on your server
18:00 kilbith my ores block didn't have a licence too
18:00 kilbith they get merged
18:00 JohnnyComeL8ly Why not just join a programming society?
18:00 JohnnyComeL8ly Like this one Megaf:
18:01 ElectronLibre Megaf, it's a good thing it runs on several computers around the globe, but I'm not very social, and I don't like talking about me.
18:01 Krock kilbith, so, wtfpl?
18:01 kilbith yes
18:01 Krock okay thanks
18:02 Megaf another cool thing about diaspora is that they really care about their users, I made a post complaining about an issue, they found my post and helped me, even after we figured out there was ntohing to do with diaspora
18:02 PenguinDad I prefer IDGAFPL :P
18:02 Megaf JohnnyComeL8ly: programming society?
18:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf: It was a joke... :)
18:04 ElectronLibre Ok, I see, thank you for having explained to me what it is.
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18:07 paigegirl hello
18:07 Krock olleh
18:07 paigegirl lol
18:07 * Krock knows hello sdrawkcab
18:08 Aragas This may be a strange question, but why you don't send packet length too? It can be in header. Like protobuff
18:08 * paigegirl is wondering if anyone notices shes on a different type of device
18:08 Krock ./ctcp paigegirl version
18:08 Krock Windows XP
18:08 PenguinDad zomfg paigegirl is using webcat!
18:09 PenguinDad *webchat
18:09 paigegirl how do you play on minetest cause miine i keep opening it and it wont do anything it just closes
18:09 Krock and IE
18:09 Krock eww
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18:09 Krock paigegirl, open debug.txt with notepad
18:09 Jordach TIL
18:09 paigegirl yes i am im on my laptop :P
18:09 Jordach Blender's normal maps are real triangles
18:09 paigegirl ok thx krock
18:10 Krock paigegirl, gonna like you. Good old Win XP
18:10 paigegirl yea my grandpa fixed it it was my bros
18:11 paigegirl you all playin on onez?
18:11 Krock no, this is the official channel
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18:11 paigegirl ok lol im new to computers but still type fast brb
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18:14 JohnnyComeL8ly paigegirl: You are knew to computers, or PC's?
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18:15 paigegirl back
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18:16 JohnnyComeL8ly paigegirl: Are you new to computers or PC's?
18:16 paigegirl both.....
18:16 paigegirl i can only play when im here (at a certain place)
18:17 paigegirl why?
18:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, I get it. I just thought that not many would have NO experience with computers... but, I guess not. ;)
18:18 Krock ShadowBot: give Krock pastebin.com
18:18 ShadowBot Krock: Don't use pastebin.com. Use a sane pastebin like http://bpaste.net, https://dpaste.de, https://gist.github.com, http://sprunge.us, http://ix.io, http://fpaste.org ...
18:18 paigegirl ok lol
18:19 Krock paigegirl, post the latest 10 lines of debug.txt there: http://sprunge.us
18:19 Krock (if the problem still exists)
18:19 paigegirl thx
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18:20 paigegirl what do i do from therre?
18:20 JohnnyComeL8ly you give the link.
18:21 paigegirl ok
18:22 Krock oh lol.
18:22 Krock I sent exactly the wrong pastebin service
18:22 paigegirl lol krovk
18:22 Krock I meant something like http://bpaste.net
18:22 paigegirl krock*
18:23 paigegirl hold on
18:24 paigegirl whatdo i pick from that
18:25 Krock press on Paste
18:25 paigegirl ok
18:26 paigegirl "it didnt validate grrr
18:26 gravgun paigegirl: Just open the site, click on the big white box, paste the text you copied from debug.txt, click on the "Paste" button (@ bottom), then copy the text in the browsers' adress bar here
18:26 Krock lel. you need to paste the debug log first
18:26 Krock ninja'd by gravgun
18:26 * Krock hides
18:26 * gravgun follows Krock
18:26 * gravgun finds him
18:27 * Krock unfinds himself
18:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Des guys...
18:27 gravgun Oh noes he disappeared! \o/ !
18:27 paigegirl thx afk
18:28 gravgun "afk", tsssss....
18:28 * gravgun thinks "DO YOU EVEN /AWAY" loudly
18:28 PenguinDad "afk: No such server" :(
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18:29 Krock afk: Someone said thx to you.
18:29 Krock thx: Someone is afk.
18:29 PenguinDad Krock: ^
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18:48 raffahacks What does "max sendQ exceeded" mean?
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19:04 Jordach annnnndddd new blender version
19:05 Jordach dammit nabbit dammit
19:11 Calinou 2.72a
19:11 Calinou 2.27b*
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19:27 SoniEx2 am I allowed to make a minetest ripoff called minetaste?
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19:28 Krock yes.
19:28 SoniEx2 (minetasteless for the tasteless ripoff :3 and yes this is silly)
19:35 * PenguinDad throws a vocoder at SoniEx2
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19:47 Calinou https://github.com/twogood​/unshield/blob/master/TODO
19:47 Calinou heh, was commited before GitHub was started
19:48 Calinou 2004-05-09
19:54 * Jordach wonders if real life is aliased or anti-aliased
19:59 Krock Calinou, even older: https://github.com/twogood​/unshield/commit/c3bd2439
20:01 PenguinDad Krock: even older https://github.com/yasm/yasm/commit/98​5479b71480ba0d2785204e9daacd81fd714020
20:01 Krock \o/
20:02 Krock possibly one of the founders
20:03 CraigyDavi This is the oldest github commit: https://github.com/mojombo/grit/commit/6​34396b2f541a9f2d58b00be1a07f0c358b999b3
20:03 PenguinDad founders of what?
20:03 Krock of github
20:03 Krock CraigyDavi, false
20:03 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: nope
20:03 Krock PD's link was even older
20:03 CraigyDavi Well mojombo/grit is the first repo on GitHUb
20:04 CraigyDavi Well that was just imported from another git repo somewhere else
20:04 Calinou how to remove ugly merge commits from pull request?
20:04 Krock maybe someone imported a git project to github
20:04 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/min​etest/tree/faster-view-bobbing
20:04 Calinou I do not want to delete and create another repository
20:04 PenguinDad Krock: Peter Johnson did never work at github
20:04 Jordach atom/atom has 10k stars
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20:05 Krock PenguinDad, then he imported it from an other git service which existed before github
20:05 PenguinDad Krock: nope he imported it from svn
20:05 CraigyDavi Calinou, https://gist.github.com/Crai​gyDavi/520fe7177e512021eb11
20:06 Krock k
20:06 Calinou this isn't what I want
20:06 Calinou I want to remove the “Merge <xxx>” commit
20:06 Calinou which is ugly and prevents my PR from getting merged
20:06 Calinou well… it's also cramming all commits for some reason
20:06 CraigyDavi Squash the commits
20:06 Calinou I'm not squashing two separate features
20:06 Calinou closed ASAP
20:07 Calinou enjoy your useless, un-deletable pull request, GitHub
20:07 * sfan5 meows at Calinou
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20:21 Calinou https://status.github.com/graphs/past_month
20:21 Calinou the graphs are quite predictable
20:21 Calinou there is a pattern depending on day of the week
20:24 Calinou https://github.com/github/dmca/bl​ob/master/2013-09-17-Minecraft.md
20:24 * Calinou applauds
20:24 Calinou “Molang”
20:25 Calinou “fUrther”
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20:25 * Jordach has found a buzzing noise when stopping audio from Firefox
20:26 blaise lol
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20:29 blaise Calinou: what's that all about anyway?
20:31 john_minetest Calinou: What is view bobbinig?
20:31 Calinou john_minetest, when you move, your wield item and camera shake
20:31 Calinou I increased the speed threshold from 40 units to 80 units (that is, 4 to 8 nodes/s)
20:31 Calinou feels better with increased movement speeds and fast_mode
20:32 Calinou however, the pull request is broken
20:32 Calinou so I'd like if someone did a PR :(
20:32 Calinou a working one
20:32 Calinou <Calinou> camera.cpp:506
20:32 Calinou <Calinou>   m_view_bobbing_speed = MYMIN(speed.getLength(), 80);
20:32 Calinou <Calinou> add this line (to replace the old one)
20:32 Calinou <Calinou> better view bobbing
20:32 Calinou was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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20:33 blaise so mojang is saying minetest is violating them?
20:33 Calinou hmmmm, hmmmm easter eggs are kinda hard when it's open source
20:33 Calinou I call BS
20:33 Calinou Meze is a fine easter egg…
20:33 Calinou so is eatable mithril
20:33 Calinou nyan cats
20:33 Calinou people are enjoying them for months ;)
20:33 VanessaE blaise: no legal basis for a DMCA takedown.
20:34 Calinou blaise, no, it was apparently a source code leak
20:34 Calinou of Minecraft
20:34 VanessaE that only applies if some project is using actual Minecraft assets
20:34 shadowzone They should make cat sandwiches(Yes I am a Alf fan)
20:34 ElectronLibre Second "paste flood" in a day, wow :x...
20:34 VanessaE otherwise it would be a trademark action at best.
20:34 PenguinDad shadowzone: Zeno´ would like them too ;)
20:34 VanessaE shadowzone: "No more tabby-paw pie for [you] before bedtime!"
20:34 shadowzone Yep
20:34 Calinou compunerd_nick, http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-11-01#i_4003835 → sorry, not easy to fix (hovers bug)
20:34 shadowzone :(
20:34 Krock 'BS' is a float which defines the exact player position (factor 10)
20:34 Calinou I should look about bricks bug
20:34 shadowzone Awwww
20:35 Jordach bricks bug
20:35 Jordach wat
20:35 Calinou commited a fix (brick blocks drop themselves like in minetest_game)
20:35 shadowzone VanessaE: pwease....can I have some tabby cat pie?
20:35 VanessaE shadowzone: :P
20:35 Calinou <VanessaE> that only applies if some project is using actual Minecraft assets
20:35 Calinou Mineclone…
20:36 Calinou using Faithful in Minetest may be deemed confusingly close
20:36 VanessaE Calinou: nope.avi
20:36 VanessaE the word "Copyright" is in there for a reason.
20:36 VanessaE if it's not actual assets, then the only claim they can make is trademark infringement
20:36 Jordach aha!
20:36 Jordach dammit Flash Player
20:37 VanessaE or perhaps patent violation/infringement if that were in place (which it isn't)
20:37 shadowzone actually no.pe
20:37 Calinou heh, patenting block-based games
20:37 Calinou do some indie game companies actually patent game design?
20:37 VanessaE Calinou: don't put it past Mojang to try it :P
20:38 blaise it's microsoft, now.. right?
20:38 VanessaE Calinou: it wouldn't surprise me. some CAD/drafting company back in the 70's claimed a patent on using XOR to draw a cursor.
20:38 blaise my guess is, they're going to pull all the stops
20:38 VanessaE blaise: MS is just Mojang's parent company I guess
20:41 Jordach if [they] make one tiny fuck up, MS loses their investment
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20:49 Calinou they won't be able to gain more money than they spent
20:49 Calinou it's purely control
20:50 Calinou (Minecraft is on Xbox 360/One since 2 years ago)
20:50 Calinou (or because Microsoft employee likes Minecraft…)
20:53 Krock which mod auto-plants saplings?
20:56 Calinou heh, an abm could do that
20:56 Calinou maybe nature
20:56 Calinou that'd be fun but could grief some buildings
20:57 Calinou or you meant, place sapling at the bottommost tree block?
20:57 Calinou when digging tree
20:57 Calinou that's so abusable
20:57 Calinou unlimited saplings… too easy
20:57 Krock I meant autoäplanting dropped saplings
20:58 Krock s/ä/-
20:58 Calinou that'd cause lots of saplings in a small area
20:58 Krock I think a simple on_step addition does it
20:58 Calinou not a good idea either
20:58 Calinou on_step is costy, too
20:58 Calinou I'd rather give 10 saplings, 10 apples, 10 torches, wooden pick to all new players
20:58 Calinou some basic stuff to start without trees
20:58 Calinou (or less trees)
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21:25 Jordach Calinou, i'm noticing firefox when playing anything with a audio stream when stopping causing buzzing
21:26 Jordach (headphone out buzzing, soundling much like a basstone version of feedback)
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21:30 sfan5 Jordach: do you even chromium
21:30 Jordach fuck no
21:30 sfan5 y not
21:31 Jordach i dislike Google related crap
21:34 sfan5 Jordach: do you even difference between chrome and chromium
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21:36 john_minetest chromium is better.
21:36 SylvieLorxu Chromium is still Google
21:36 john_minetest Freedom! Privacy!
21:37 john_minetest Chromium is open source. There are no spyware plugins integrated.
21:37 john_minetest Also I prefer firefox over all.
21:37 Jordach i like my webpages like my framerate: not flashinh
21:38 Krock https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/62b176b0b0e2b3c07814
21:39 Krock sapling planter easymade :)
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21:43 PenguinDad Krock: do you have to fully redefine __builtin:item?
21:43 Krock PenguinDad, I don't have but it's funny
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21:43 Krock on_step is only 22 lines long
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21:52 paigegirl j
21:52 paigegirl hello
21:52 Fritigern I wonder where all the Guest#### accounts come from....
21:52 Fritigern Hi paigegirl
21:53 paigegirl how do i get connected with servers on #minetest?
21:53 Fritigern Do you have Minetest running?
21:54 paigegirl yes
21:54 paigegirl you mean on a server?
21:54 Fritigern Then click the "client" tab, make sure that "Public serverlist" is checked, click one of the servers and connect
21:54 paigegirl ok afk
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21:55 Fritigern And if it wants a password, then type a password.
21:56 paigegirl i mean how do i get this #minetest chat connected to a server on minetest
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21:56 Fritigern Ah! Well, for that you need to run a server and have the IRC mod installed
21:58 paigegirl ok i want a server now
21:58 paigegirl lol
21:58 Fritigern However, i don;t think that people here would like it if you hooked up your server to #minetest, because i have a feelingg that most people here are not interestedin the chat on your server
22:01 paigegirl try query with your self lol
22:01 paigegirl bye
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22:07 Krock Fritigern, those guests are currently dying.. slowly.
22:09 Fritigern But where do they come from?
22:09 Krock !up minetest.info.tm
22:09 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
22:10 Krock Fritigern, from the cookie paradise
22:10 Fritigern That doesn't answer my question
22:10 Amaz Fritigern, they come from mobile clients with children mainly.
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22:11 Fritigern Amaz: as in Buildcraft, worldcraft and the likes?
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22:11 Amaz Yep.
22:12 Jordach bullshitcraft, wankcraft and illegaltest right
22:12 Krock Amaz, that's "Admin".
22:12 Fritigern Then i don't feel bad about having the no_guests mod :-)
22:12 Amaz Someone (One of the devs) made it so that if you connected to a server without a name, it would give you the name Guest1323
22:13 Krock no_guests and some little additions are the best
22:13 Amaz I may be wrong there...
22:13 Amaz Yep, no_guests is a necessity really.
22:13 Fritigern Krock: What little additions?
22:14 Krock Fritigern, https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/713ed8cea020e2e7bfc3 it prevents from accounts like Abcd and aBcd and abCd..
22:14 Krock short and useful
22:15 Fritigern Oooh! I like that one. But it should be merged into no_guests
22:16 Krock There was a pull for builtin to add a function like that. Now I was faster and coded that :3
22:18 Fritigern I think we should nag kaeza about merging your uploaw mod. It's so tiny and definitely complements no_guests
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22:46 STHGOM how do you make mods?  :P
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22:47 STHGOM or how do you start making mods?
22:48 SylvieLorxu Something something Lua
22:48 SylvieLorxu Someone else probably knows better :P
22:55 jin_xi STHGOM: do you have programming experience
22:55 STHGOM a bit
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22:56 STHGOM a little bit
22:56 jin_xi its not hard to get started making simple mods with minetest
22:56 jin_xi all you need really is a text editor
22:59 PenguinDad Lol dat smiley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_heating
23:04 STHGOM minetest has heat and humidity?
23:07 jin_xi i dont think so
23:07 carlvelleri they should that would be an awsome mod
23:07 STHGOM dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_heat
23:08 john_minetest HEY!
23:08 john_minetest STHGOM!#
23:08 john_minetest Haven't seen you in a while.
23:08 STHGOM :D
23:09 jin_xi STHGOM: better use https://raw.githubusercontent.com/min​etest/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt its more up do date
23:09 STHGOM ok ty
23:09 jin_xi there has been some support for heat but its been removed
23:09 jin_xi i think its in freeminer though
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23:49 STHGOM cya
23:51 carlvelleri they should make earthquake mod
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