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00:52 H-H-H ok mental note lol dont make an automated pickaxe machine that has 50 chests for storage and then forget to turn it of coz the cleanup is a PIA
00:56 xrazybud i wanna make one of those
00:57 H-H-H this is my first time playing with pipeworks mod over the last few days and its frigin awesome
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01:13 Fritigern !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod
01:14 Fritigern And of course MTB is MIA
01:17 OldCoder Where does obsidian come from?
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01:19 Yellowberry LAVA_source + water
01:19 Yellowberry ^ OldCoder
01:21 OldCoder Yellowberry, if we can talk, that will be great. You told me that before. One of the kids has placed water next to lava.
01:21 OldCoder Nothing happens. I assume that it needs to be lava *source*
01:21 OldCoder Remember, I run worlds, I have not really played the game
01:21 OldCoder May we continue speaking in PM sometime when you are able to do so?
01:22 OldCoder I have been working pretty hard on several worlds, including yours, and would appreciate help
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01:25 Fritigern OldCoder: Put water on top of lava, it generates obsidian. However, when water touches lava from the sides or the botton, it generates cobble
01:26 OldCoder On top of any lava or must it be lava source?
01:27 Fritigern It must be a lava source
01:27 OldCoder Thank you
01:28 Fritigern Welcome ;-)
01:28 OldCoder Is a lava cube that has moving patterns a source?
01:28 Yellowberry no
01:28 OldCoder All right
01:28 Yellowberry only the solid ones
01:28 Fritigern If you can scoop it up with a bucket, it's a source
01:28 OldCoder a non-moving lava cube is a source, then?
01:28 Yellowberry yes
01:28 OldCoder Yellow I really could use answers about saplings when you have time
01:29 OldCoder I am spending hours a day trying to answer questions there
01:29 Yellowberry i'm eating dinner ATM, but I could help soon
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01:30 Fritigern OldCoder: Is the sampling thing something that i could possibly help you with?
01:30 Fritigern *sapling
01:31 Fritigern "Where does obsidian come from?" Well, when mommy lava and daddy water love eahother very much........
01:32 OldCoder Fritigern, thank you. And heh. We will see what Yellowberry can do.
01:32 OldCoder I will request help from others when he is unable to continue.
01:32 OldCoder It is his mod and world, so he may wish first craft.
01:33 Fritigern I had hoped that the question would be a general one. Something like "hopw do i get saplings?"
01:33 OldCoder Fritigern he has not finished the tree code
01:33 OldCoder But could you possibly come and show the kids how to make obsidian
01:33 OldCoder One has been trying for an hour
01:33 OldCoder * first crack
01:34 Fritigern Okay, i will give it a whirl
01:34 OldCoder Server is minetest.org port 30021
01:39 OldCoder slime there is a test
01:39 OldCoder slime you must answer a question
01:39 OldCoder slime are you a polite player?
01:40 OldCoder O.K. the_kreator Fritigern is looking at the code
01:40 OldCoder Wrong window
01:40 Fritigern LOL
01:45 OldCoder Yellowberry, did you delete the Cool Lava Source ABM?
02:02 OldCoder Fritigern, you used the wrong password
02:02 OldCoder Need a reset?
02:03 Fritigern I don;t know. I'll try and see what's wrong. Might be CaPs
02:03 Fritigern There we go
02:03 OldCoder BTW sorry about teleporting you into lava before
02:03 OldCoder That stuff is pretty hot, I suppose
02:05 Yellowberry hehe
02:05 Yellowberry yeah
02:05 Yellowberry you would make fried bananas out of me with that stuff
02:05 Yellowberry ^ OldCoder
02:06 OldCoder Indeed
02:06 OldCoder Fritigern what do all of those CONTENT_IGNOREs look like to you?
02:06 * Yellowberry enjoys pretending to be a banana
02:07 OldCoder Yellowbanana the change worked, I will merge with your next pass
02:07 Fritigern OldCoder: I have no idea. First time i have seen an error like that
02:07 Yellowberry maybe?
02:07 OldCoder Well, that was obsidian, right?
02:07 Yellowberry OldCoder, just push change to repo please, I will accept
02:08 OldCoder Yellowberry, do I simply clone and push?
02:08 OldCoder What about auth?
02:08 Yellowberry ah
02:09 Yellowberry do you not have a GitHub account?
02:09 OldCoder I do
02:09 OldCoder I am BoldCoder IIRC
02:09 OldCoder checking
02:09 OldCoder Hang on
02:09 OldCoder debugging a world issue
02:09 Yellowberry just use email address as username and password as pass
02:09 OldCoder Fritigern are you saying
02:10 OldCoder Yellowberry you need to add me first, right?
02:10 Fritigern Looks like the error spam is torch related. Dunno how
02:10 OldCoder https://github.com/OldCoder
02:10 OldCoder I'll need to patch it out?
02:10 Yellowberry yeah, that could become a problem
02:10 OldCoder But how were the torches removed?
02:10 OldCoder What could become a problem?
02:10 Fritigern I dug them
02:11 OldCoder Is that world specific?
02:11 Yellowberry seeing as we don't want all the mods you added added to your copy
02:11 OldCoder Yellowberry you need to add me first, right?
02:11 OldCoder Yellowberry I can push just the change
02:11 Yellowberry ok
02:11 Yellowberry hold on
02:11 Fritigern Psss... Where can i find the news mod?
02:12 Yellowberry also, please pull in about 2 minutes, fishyWET added some stuff
02:12 OldCoder Fritigern I will give it to you shortly; I forget who gave it to me
02:12 OldCoder Yellowberry hang on a second
02:12 OldCoder DOn't merge his stuff ye
02:12 OldCoder DOn't merge his stuff yet *
02:12 Fritigern I was hoping for a link
02:12 Yellowberry OldCoder, I wont
02:13 OldCoder Boy there's a lot of those CONTENT IGNORE errors
02:13 OldCoder Fritigern I don't have one
02:13 OldCoder I will make one
02:14 OldCoder Yellowberry, just a few minutes
02:14 Fritigern BTW, what's wrong with the bones mod? I can't dig my own bones and the content appears to be wildly different than my starting inventory
02:14 OldCoder Good question
02:14 OldCoder One step at a time
02:20 Fritigern I wonder if the solution would be to restore default to... ermm... its defaults
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02:41 wazupwiop hey guys, I am new
02:41 wazupwiop How do I pick up a furnace?
02:43 Cylus wazupwiop: Use a pick.
02:43 Cylus Any pick will work.
02:43 wazupwiop Will a wooden pick work?
02:43 Cylus wazupwiop: The furnace must be empty to pick up though.
02:43 Cylus A wooden pick will work.
02:43 wazupwiop I am left-clicking and it isn't picking up
02:44 Cylus Hmm. It worked last time I tried. I'll pull up my world and try again.
02:45 wazupwiop I am running Mac OSX Mavericks
02:45 wazupwiop On the 20140903 release
02:45 Cylus WEIRD. They changed it. Wooden picks will not work on furnaces any more.
02:46 Cylus It seems a stone pick will works.
02:46 Cylus I swear though, I thought wooden picks worked. They used to.
02:47 wazupwiop cool thanks
02:47 Cylus Yeah, no problem.
02:47 diemartin wazupwiop, just out of curiosity, are you "clicking", or holding the button?
02:47 wazupwiop holding
02:47 diemartin alright
02:48 diemartin (no offense intended, some people seem to assume nodes are dug by clicking :P)
02:49 wazupwiop haha
02:49 wazupwiop How often is minetest updated?
02:49 Cylus I think it varies.
02:49 Cylus Also, it depends on if you want stable or unstable Minetest.
02:50 wazupwiop Yeah.  I am a dev, so I am thinking about taking a crack at adding some features.
02:50 Cylus Most people here tend to go for unstable Minetest, and get updates whenever they feel like it.
02:50 wazupwiop I am really impressed by the game.
02:50 wazupwiop It runs amazingly well.
02:51 wazupwiop have they added in mobs to fight yet?
02:51 Cylus Yeah, it's pretty sweet. I totally found this place by accident too. I was lucky that day.
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02:51 Cylus Mobs are not in the default game, but people have created mods/modules/scripts to add them.
02:52 wazupwiop I have to say this is pretty amazing
02:53 wazupwiop has anyone ported computercraft to this yet?
02:53 Cylus The forum might be the place to look for such a mod. I think the popular mobs mod is "mobf".
02:53 Cylus I've never heard of "computercraft". Is that a Minecraft thing?
02:54 Cylus I think someone created a computers mod, but the computers are only decorative, not functional.
02:54 wazupwiop Yeah, computercraft was one of my favorite mods from MC
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03:38 Yellowberry Cylus, its mod where you can write programs in lua for interactive computers
03:40 * Yellowberry just realized he is an hour too late
03:40 Cylus Yellowberry: Ah. So like out Lua Controllers, or whatever that mod is called?
03:41 Yellowberry sorta, but its like a command line type thing
03:41 Yellowberry you write the files outside the game then run them through the computer, like batch scrips
03:41 Yellowberry *scripts
03:41 Cylus Ah. Well it sounds like it's doable from here then, if someone wants to build it.
03:41 Yellowberry yeah
03:42 Yellowberry especially because minetest is lua natively, so no library implementation is needed
03:44 Cylus Hmm. Do these computer-run scripts effect the world around the computer, or just do things on the computer itself?
03:45 Yellowberry Cylus, they can effect the world around them if put into a special computer called a turtle
03:45 Yellowberry which can interact with the world with the certain tool you craft it with
03:46 Cylus Trippy. That might be kind of interesting.
03:49 Yellowberry yeah
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03:56 Yellowberry Anyone awake and knows python around here?
03:59 Cylus I know Python. I'm also partially awake, Yellowberry.
03:59 Cylus SssssSSSSSsssss ......
03:59 Yellowberry lol
03:59 Yellowberry could you help me debug something?
04:00 Cylus Alright, what's the problem?
04:00 Yellowberry #moontest please
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04:21 Yellowberry I am surprised
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04:58 Simcra o/
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06:16 OldCoder What is player breath?
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06:25 Cylus OldCoder: It probably has to do with the new drowning mechanics.
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07:06 OldCoder Cylus, yes; I'll need to learn it. There are no docs.
07:06 OldCoder Reviewed the code but not clear. Thanks.
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08:55 Zeno` Scooboy doooby dooooooooooo
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08:56 * Zeno` gives sfan5 a scooby snack
08:58 DuDraig I found the solution to my problem with nodes that have on_place set to minetest.rotate_node not calling the node after_place_node and global registered on_placenode callbacks. Anyone interested in this?
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09:47 Jordach shit https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RlHATaVj_hl7.png
09:48 ElectronLibre O_O?
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09:48 Zeno` works for me
09:49 Amaz And me.
09:49 * ElectronLibre can see the beginning of an email adress on another tab >_>
09:49 ElectronLibre It works perfectly here.
09:50 PenguinDad Works here too
09:51 Amaz XD
09:52 ElectronLibre Ok... I see... '_'
09:52 Zeno` Yeah, that's most likely it... iptables -A INPUT -s Jordachs_IP -j DROP
09:53 Zeno` I always choose the simplest answer
09:53 Zeno` I call it Zeno's Razor
09:54 * Zeno` looks at PenguinDad
09:54 Zeno` you...
09:54 Zeno` nvm
10:03 * PenguinDad why there's libsane but no libinsane
10:03 PenguinDad s/why/wonders why/
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10:09 Zeno` huh?
10:10 Zeno` lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 May 23 08:33 /usr/lib64/libinsane.so.1 -> libinsane.so.0.0.1
10:10 Zeno` looks fine to me
10:14 PenguinDad Zeno`: I don't have this library :(
10:15 Zeno` PenguinDad, I can give you the src code if you want insanity as well
10:16 * Zeno` suddenly realises his deception may be revealed and quickly codes up a library
10:30 Azelphur Just figured you guys might be interested, I'm here at MozFest 2014 with a bunch of older hardware that couldn't run Minecraft, Installed xubuntu and minetest on them and it's going down a storm, https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?ser​vice=files&t=1f052e64384d55a1eb6356b1bde76342
10:32 Azelphur A quick way I garnered interest was just setting the kids the challenge, "Dig to bedrock" while cackling like an evil bastard ;)
10:33 Jordach you genius bastard
10:33 Jordach even with technic and stuff installed, it takes me about a few hours to dig straight down a single KM
10:34 Azelphur haha :D
10:34 Azelphur and this is stock
10:38 Zeno` will keep them occupied
10:40 Azelphur indeed
10:40 Azelphur I'm just sitting here cackling manically, one kid has started to figure it out.
10:44 Azelphur https://home.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?ser​vice=files&t=512c0a7099829100ebfa382a4685160f android builds are getting some love too
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10:48 Jordach +1 for fullscreen
10:57 iqualfragile Azelphur: woho, you seem to be quite the risk taker, eh?
10:57 iqualfragile running a public owncloud?
10:57 Azelphur iqualfragile, why's that risky? it's designed for it
10:57 Jordach iqualfragile, https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=159721#p159721
10:58 iqualfragile i read about critical owncloud problems like very 2nd month
10:58 iqualfragile are you the guy with the tatoos?
10:58 Azelphur iqualfragile, nope I'm the guy taking the photo
10:59 iqualfragile ah, makes sense
11:00 iqualfragile PenguinDad: no, seeing taht you are talking about libinsane why was entirely correct
11:01 iqualfragile *critical security problems
11:03 Jordach sfan5, !!cat https://i.imgur.com/TebzLzl.jpg
11:07 * Zeno` looks at PenguinDad. Want a Scooby Snack?
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11:09 Zeno` no?
11:09 * Zeno` gives the Scooby Snack to iqualfragile
11:09 * iqualfragile keeps it
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11:20 urbanizator Hey I have problems running minetest on ubuntu. It does not show the three buttons neither does it start fullscreen and now it started closing the moment I open it
11:21 urbanizator debug.txt = http://pastebin.com/7SRiRcxJ
11:21 kilbith your minetest version ?
11:21 urbanizator the one from the ubuntu store
11:21 urbanizator where can I see?
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11:22 urbanizator minetest 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1
11:22 kilbith avoid this one, download from here : http://www.minetest.net/download
11:22 kilbith it's 0.4.10 since July
11:22 urbanizator oh I thought if I add the ppa it would just work using the gui
11:22 urbanizator so I have to use command line then?
11:23 kilbith install MT 0.4.10
11:23 kilbith firstly
11:23 urbanizator oh its minetestc55
11:23 urbanizator that i need?
11:23 kilbith your ubuntu version ?
11:24 urbanizator 14.something
11:24 urbanizator anyway I now have 4.10
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11:24 urbanizator it opened in the middle of my screen without the options to close/make smaller/minize
11:24 kilbith yes minetestc55 package
11:25 kilbith or this one which is more recent : https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs​/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+packages
11:25 urbanizator Yea it works now, tnx
11:25 kilbith yw
11:25 urbanizator annoying that if you search for just "minetest" that you get the wrong version
11:26 kilbith just avoid the "-store" or something
11:26 urbanizator Ubuntu Software Center?
11:27 kilbith i personally prefer synaptic
11:28 kilbith further infos
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12:28 * GhostDoge barks
12:30 * Zeno` roars
12:30 * GhostDoge licks Zeno`
12:31 Zeno` yuck, yik, yukky
12:32 Zeno` brb, having another shower :(
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12:38 * Zeno` looks around in a daze
12:38 Zeno` hark! who goes there?
12:39 * Zeno` shines torch into Wuzzy's eye. Identify thou self!
12:40 * Zeno` whirls around and looks behind
12:40 Zeno` hark! who goes there?
12:41 Zeno` I am surrounded my silent people!
12:41 Wuzzy lol
12:42 Wuzzy what's up?
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12:43 brothersome Is there anyone working on the memory absorption of the game?
12:43 Zeno` brothersome, in what sense?
12:44 Zeno` Wuzzy, not much. I am calm now
12:44 Zeno` Wuzzy, you?
12:44 Wuzzy yea
12:45 Zeno` brothersome, I know some people have been indicating that the latest dev versions consume memory but I haven't seen this myself. Is this what you're referring to?
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12:46 cheesecreamelbow can someone help me setup shadowninja's protection mod?  the readme doesn't make sense to me
12:46 brothersome Thanks Zeno for responding, I had to put 1 GB extra in my Laptop but minetest still is not working when I came to some buildings, it consumes and consumes memory
12:46 Zeno` brothersome, what version?
12:46 cheesecreamelbow readme said If you wish to specify configuration options, such as whether players are allowed to protect their own areas with /protect (Disabled by default), you should check config.lua and set the appropriate settings in your minetest.conf.
12:46 brothersome Zeno, I use Ubuntu and I am at the latest version using the app
12:47 cheesecreamelbow but, there is no config.lua in the mod folder
12:47 brothersome Version is 0.4.10
12:47 Zeno` does  minetest --version output anything extra?
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12:47 brothersome Many times only the missing of textures
12:48 Zeno` whatever "minetest --version" (without the quotes) outputs might be useful
12:49 brothersome I use linuxgaming.us and when I ran to some buildings I see the memory increasing and then it swaps
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12:50 brothersome Looking for the command of minestest --- it is not minetest (c55)
12:51 brothersome Minetest 0.4.10, Using Irrlicht 1.8.1, Build info: VER=0.4.10
12:52 brothersome Is it a minetest problem or Irrlicht problem? Somewhere
12:52 Zeno` I have fixed some mem leaks and so have others...
12:52 Zeno` (since then)
12:52 Zeno` just to confirm, this is the client you're talking about?
12:52 brothersome Yes
12:53 Zeno` let me look at the commit log
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12:55 Zeno` There has been memory leak fixes, but I am not sure if they're affecting the client
12:56 Zeno` But, to answer your earlier question, yes people are looking at finding and fixing them all the time
12:56 brothersome When I am at the same node it calls Client::addnode several times, I do not know what that means
12:57 Zeno` how did you determine that?
12:57 brothersome I started with: minetest --info
12:57 Zeno` oh wait... are you playing singleplayer game?
12:57 brothersome No, linuxgaming.us , I am now at spawn
12:58 Zeno` hmm
13:00 brothersome I justed walked around spawn and it takes 400 MB extra
13:00 * Zeno` thinks
13:00 * brothersome using openbox
13:01 Zeno` if you go away from spawn does the memory decrease?
13:02 brothersome I do not see an declinement of memory in the windown running top
13:03 Zeno` I think a new release will be coming pretty soon. Maybe it's best to see what happens after it's released
13:04 brothersome Ok, I shall wait --- I just spend 30 Euro's on memory to get things running more smoothly
13:04 Zeno` unless BlockMen or someone else has a new Ubuntu build for you to tesdt
13:04 Zeno` well, the extra RAM won't go astray for other things as well ;) so it's not wasted
13:04 brothersome I'm a developer myself, If somebody has a testversion I can help
13:05 Zeno` brothersome, can you compile your own version then?
13:05 brothersome I have gcc and g++ on my computer
13:05 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest
13:06 Zeno` git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git and follow the README might be worth it
13:06 brothersome I can look for it, hopefully it is not too big for this celeron machine
13:06 Zeno` hmm
13:06 Zeno` probably not too big... many people compile on lower-end machines (it just takes longer)
13:07 Zeno` Does anybody know if there is a release date for 0.4.11?
13:07 brothersome I am now cloning
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13:11 Zeno` I'll see what happens if I join that server
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13:14 sfan5 Jordach: that picture looks like a paiting
13:14 sfan5 painting*
13:15 Zeno` wow ok
13:15 Zeno` so sitting at spawn my RAM usage just keeps going up
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13:16 Zeno` what the...
13:16 brothersome How can I compile minetest? I do not see a configure script
13:16 Jordach brothersome, read the readme
13:17 sfan5 brothersome: cmake
13:18 sfan5 ahaha
13:18 sfan5 aw
13:18 sfan5 it's gone
13:18 Zeno` ok there is a problem somewhere bothersome. My RAM just keeps going up as well (30%) now
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13:20 Zeno` compiling new client... bbiab
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13:22 brothersome Strange --- CMAKE error --- Cannot find X11
13:22 sfan5 I guess you need X11 installed
13:23 sfan5 except you want a server only
13:23 iqualfragile why no wayland
13:23 GhostDoge brothersome: do you the have dev libraries minetest needs?
13:23 iqualfragile sfan5: make featurz plz
13:23 Zeno` x11-dev
13:24 sfan5 iqualfragile: do I like like I want to implement wayland support in irrlicht?
13:24 brothersome Ubuntu complains that it cannot find x11-dev
13:24 sfan5 like -> look
13:25 Zeno` I don't know the ubuntu package name :)
13:27 Zeno` anyway I can confirm that it's continually using up memory on that server
13:27 Zeno` I stopped when it got to 8GB
13:27 * sfan5 throws valgrind at Zeno`
13:28 Zeno` sfan5, and what doth thou thing I am doing right now :p
13:28 sfan5 dunno
13:28 Zeno` just takes a while hehe
13:28 Zeno` well, I am running the client under valgrind and connecting to that server ;)
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13:29 Zeno` valgrind won't necessarily find leaks though (if they're all cleaned up at the end)
13:30 Zeno` I do know that OpenAL leaks, but not sure if that's what's happening here
13:32 Zeno` 0 frames per second hehe
13:32 Zeno` oh oh oh! 1 FPS
13:32 Amaz :D
13:33 GhostDoge Valgrind grinding your fps :D
13:33 Zeno` yeah! I love playing like this
13:36 Zeno` lost blocks in ProcessData... that's new
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13:37 Zeno` oh... maybe particle spawners
13:38 Zeno` yeah that's where it's happening
13:38 Zeno` who looks after that area of the code?
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13:40 sfan5 [redacted] - - [25/Oct/2014:13:39:51 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Linux/3.12.13-gentooBeAsT x86_64)" "-"
13:40 sfan5 ^ oh look, gentoo
13:41 Zeno` thank brothersome
13:41 Zeno` I'll try my best to report it
13:41 Zeno` thanks*
13:42 Zeno` I can't fix it myself because I don't really understand that part of the code (not looked at it yet)
13:42 Zeno` The part of the code I suspect is the issue*
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13:48 brothersome I am now building minetest --- A lot of work to get to this stage
13:49 Zeno` brothersome, well it's worthwhile probably :D
13:49 Zeno` it won't fix your current issue, but...
13:49 brothersome Now 8 %
13:49 brothersome I can search for the code for memory
13:50 Zeno` I know what's the most likely cause now and have let the core devs know
13:50 Zeno` I'm between a rock and a hard place though
13:50 brothersome Thanks Zeno a lot
13:50 Zeno` if I fix the issue it will mess up 12 days work of mine that is not merged yet hehe
13:50 Zeno` perhaps that's selfish, but *sigh*
13:51 Zeno` I'm sure it'll be fixed now it's been brought to attention
13:51 brothersome Is it because I had that info log on?
13:52 cheesecreamelbow can someone help me with sahdowninjas protection mod?
13:52 Zeno` nah I think it's particle stuff
13:52 Zeno` sfan5, you can help me :D
13:52 sfan5 no
13:52 sfan5 busy being a ca
13:52 sfan5 t
13:52 Zeno` sfan5, by testing my PR
13:53 Zeno` cats like testing
13:53 sfan5 nah
13:53 Zeno` sheesh, tough crowd
13:53 Zeno` nobody will test it :/
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13:54 brothersome Testing what Zeno --- perhaps a client version?
13:54 Zeno` yeah :(
13:55 Zeno` not a version per. se. ... a cleanup
13:56 brothersome If I can help you, let me know ---- I am able to test a client --- I use linuxgaming.us as servefr
13:57 Zeno` it still won't fix your current issue, but yeah... the more testers the better:   https://github.com/Zeno-/min​etest/tree/refactor_the_game
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13:58 kilbith « nobody cares »  - © proller Corp., all rights reserved.
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14:03 brothersome Zeno, how to get your sources?
14:03 brothersome Going for tea now
14:03 Zeno` https://github.com/Zeno-/min​etest/tree/refactor_the_game
14:03 Zeno` https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest
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14:05 Zeno` well, I may watch some TV now... 12:04AM here :)
14:05 kilbith you only sleep at day ?
14:06 Zeno` these days... yes
14:06 kilbith batman
14:06 Zeno` I lost my job 4 or 5 or 6 weeks ago because there was no work coming in
14:06 Zeno` and for some reason I've turned into a night owl
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14:18 OldCoder Zeno`, read Swizec's book "Night Owls"
14:18 OldCoder I believe parts are free online
14:20 kilbith https://github.com/Swizec/nightowls
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15:39 Calinou fffffff
15:39 Calinou trying to make HUD-without-hunger, the mod does nothing
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15:53 GhostDoge Calinou: did you expect anything else?
15:56 Calinou health bar background and stuff like that
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15:56 Calinou but anyway I'm not putting hud mod in Carbone
15:56 Calinou lag is clearly visible
16:01 Jordach what lag
16:01 Jordach i haven't seen any with my somewhat edited version
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16:11 Calinou obvious lag of health compared to not having a HUD mod
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16:17 Krock meow
16:18 * GhostDoge licks Krock
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16:29 hassage hi
16:29 ElectronLibre Hello hassage.
16:29 * Krock licks GhostDoge
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16:39 Fritigern !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: A pulldown menu listing all the (installed) mods, choosing one entry shows only the items from that one mod
16:39 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around
16:41 Calinou !tell RealBadAngel Idea for Unified Inventory: non-ugly slot textures
16:41 MinetestBot Calinou: yeah, sure, whatever
16:41 GhostDoge Calinou: s/ugly/square/
16:41 GhostDoge *non-ugly
16:41 Fritigern MT's gui as a whole is... erm.... not pretty
16:42 Calinou how would you improve it?
16:43 Fritigern Different graphics toolkit, like Qt perhaps
16:43 Calinou WTF?!
16:43 Calinou you want to implement a graphics toolkit in a game?
16:43 Calinou that is totally irrelevant to visuals anyway
16:43 Calinou it'd never be accepted
16:43 Calinou that's like wanting Boost libraries
16:44 Fritigern You asked, it's not my fault that you don;t like my answer
16:45 Calinou it's not a suitable answer
16:45 Calinou changing default colours, font… is one
16:45 Fritigern It's my answer and you'll have to deal with it
16:45 kilbith Fritigern: you can sort the items from a mod by searching with the name of the mod
16:45 Calinou eg. I'd like if gradient of buttons was reversed when you click on them
16:45 Calinou adds more effect than just offsetting the boc slightly
16:46 kilbith would be better to have category tabs instead
16:47 Fritigern kilbith: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5641
16:48 kilbith yes, like that
16:48 kilbith 'ported for UI
16:49 VanessaE ew.
16:49 Fritigern http://www.deviantart.com/​art/Minetest-GUI-321089133 perhaps?
16:50 VanessaE better widgets, way worse theme.
16:51 GhostDoge Fritigern: for a nintendo ds maybe
16:51 Fritigern I'm also not too fond of the font. It feels like someone thought "wewll, this will do for now" and then never went back to it
16:52 GhostDoge Fritigern: you can already change the font
16:53 Calinou mockups are never actually made
16:53 Calinou rule 1 of mockups ^
16:53 Calinou also it looks like crap
16:54 Fritigern Yeah, i wil have to play around with the font. However, i worry that people have adjusted stuff like buttons, HUD positions, etc with the current default font in mind.
16:54 Fritigern Calinou: Have you got anything better?
16:56 Calinou yes, with larger font you will need to adjust stuff
16:56 Calinou try Droid Sans 18
16:56 Calinou with shadow alpha 255
16:56 Calinou much better
16:56 Calinou (same font as Warsow's font used for console)
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17:32 OldCoder I've got steel shingles which are extinct popping up. I have no idea how players managed to summon them.
17:32 OldCoder Does anybody have the original steel mod which defined steel shingles?
17:32 OldCoder It seems to be gone
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17:35 VanessaE OldCoder: my fork, https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-steel
17:35 VanessaE it's improved over the original steel mod anyway
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17:46 VanessaE bbl
17:47 OldCoder VanessaE, it does not have
17:47 OldCoder those textures
17:48 OldCoder I see that pitriss and you discussed this before
17:48 OldCoder Item "steel:shingle_side_roofing" not defined
17:48 OldCoder Item "steel:shingle_outer_corner_roofing" not defined
17:48 OldCoder Does anybody know where these may be obtained?
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18:07 * Krock wrote his 2k' th post
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18:08 Krock erlehmann!
18:08 kilbith ^ sfan5
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18:09 GhostDoge !tell erlehmann Fix yer connection
18:09 MinetestBot GhostDoge: yeah, sure, whatever
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18:13 Jordach !ban erlehmann
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18:16 Krock why does everybody try to clone mindcraft?
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18:16 Calinou they find it cool
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18:18 ShadowNinja ~mode -b+b erlehmann!*@* erlehmann!*@*$##fix_your_connection
18:28 Krock 1051 correctly titled mods exist :)
18:29 Amaz Did you find that from your search?
18:29 Krock yes.
18:30 Amaz :D
18:30 Krock 296 diffrent mod creators
18:30 Krock !c 1051/296
18:30 MinetestBot 3.550675675675676
18:30 Krock ^ mods per user
18:31 Krock *mods per modder
18:31 Amaz That is the best search for the forum available. All the mods I've wanted to found, and looked through their to get, I've found on the first time.
18:31 Amaz *for the modding forums.
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18:38 rubenwardy "Good move - But you can do better."
18:38 rubenwardy :(
18:38 rubenwardy and, Hi all!
18:42 GhostDoge Hej rubenwardy
18:43 Calinou hi rubenwardy
18:43 Calinou chess?
18:43 rubenwardy I only have 15 minutes
18:43 * sfan5 paws rubenwardy
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18:44 rubenwardy I only have 15 minutes
18:44 Calinou OK
18:44 Calinou so 6 minute game?
18:44 rubenwardy sure
18:44 Calinou see notice
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19:01 rubenwardy gtg. Bye all!
19:01 Krock bye rubenwardy
19:02 rubenwardy gg, Calinou. Maybe I'll beat you before the universe ends
19:07 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone_torches
19:07 Calinou 3D torches
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19:08 kilbith pity that they aren't inclinated
19:09 nu|| hi guys. i am trying to run a game from my LAN server and i get all clients stuck on "item definitions..." no matter how long i wait
19:09 nu|| any clues?
19:10 kilbith your minetest version ? and told them to 'disable preload item visuals'
19:10 nu|| in terminal i can see the action of my player joining, but as a player nothing but "item definitions..." shows up
19:11 nu|| kilbith, the version is the latest grabbed from the minetest site
19:16 Calinou kilbith, I could use meshes now ;) but won't work on 0.4.10
19:16 Calinou I keep stable support for all my mods
19:16 kilbith obviously
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19:19 kilbith you'll can even add the future Irrlicht particles atop those (MC-like)  ;)
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19:23 Calinou need something client-side
19:23 Calinou server shouldn't deal with visuals too much
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19:53 Krock 21:56:50: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Sorry, you can not connect with the name 'kroCk'. Are you 'krock? If yes, check the  upper/lowercase or pick another name.
19:55 ElectronLibre Interesting.
19:55 Krock Only 8 lines..
19:55 Krock of code
19:57 Jordach :> https://pbs.twimg.com/media​/B0n_EAmIUAEf_M3.png:large
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20:02 GhostDoge so true
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20:06 FreeFull PHP should be replaced
20:07 FreeFull With something
20:07 ElectronLibre What exactly?
20:08 GhostDoge ElectronLibre: with a better language like ruby or python
20:10 FreeFull Something that has PHP's advantages without everything else
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20:17 Krock Jordach, write a brainfuck compiler in brainfuck!
20:20 GhostDoge Krock: LOLCODE is better ;)
20:20 Krock no.
20:20 Krock Ook! Is better
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20:24 GhostDoge Krock: I am not an orang-utan :P
20:24 Krock oh.
20:25 twoelk I think chef-code is quite nice and sort of unobviouse
20:27 twoelk an Hello World Souffle is served here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Chef_%28Programmiersprache%29
20:33 gravgun Krock: (late, I know) actually writing a BF compiler in BF wouldn't be that hard
20:33 Krock gravgun, tutorial pls
20:33 VanessaE why not just write in several languages at once?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglot_(computing)
20:33 gravgun Krock: eh don't have any tutorial sadly...
20:34 gravgun didn't say it would be easy either
20:36 gravgun but it's just be a matter of storing corresponding assembly pieces in memory slots, reading input, comparing it to the possible operations, writing the cached ASM bits to output
20:36 gravgun depending on what operation was just read
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21:11 maxaitor hi
21:11 Krock ][-][ ][
21:18 Calinou Carbone: Add highlandpools: generate water lakes above sea level.
21:18 sfan5 Nobody: Cares
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21:25 GhostDoge sfan5: at least she cares :P "[nobody] (~nobody@unaffiliated/outoufcontrol/bot/ufo/x-7872754): Supybot 0.83.4.1+git"
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21:36 Zephlon How can you make a tool do something on right click instead of left click? I tried replacing on_use with on_rightclick in PilzAdam's throwing mod, but nothing happens when I right click. http://pastie.org/9675583
21:58 GhostDoge Youtube: y u kill my firefox?
21:58 gravgun GhostDoge: you using HTML5 or Flash video?
21:59 GhostDoge Flash because I'm too stupid to figure out how to install these codecs on debian :/
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22:01 gravgun GhostDoge: just install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg already
22:01 gravgun FF enabled GStreamer backend not so long ago IIRC
22:01 gravgun better make use of it
22:02 gravgun If the Flash-based player still shows up, go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and click the big blue button
22:05 GhostDoge damn gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg isn't in the jessie repos for some reason :/
22:09 FreeFull You don't need any codecs to watch youtube html5 videos
22:10 FreeFull Because Firefox has webm support built in
22:14 GhostDoge Everything I actually need right now is mp3 and H.264 support
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22:27 sfan5 GhostDoge: FYI YT uses either vp9 or h.264 and vorbis or aac-le
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22:28 GhostDoge sfan5: mp3 has other reasons
22:28 sfan5 anyway
22:28 sfan5 do you even ffmpeg
22:33 GhostDoge sfan5: I just did :P "ffmpeg -i Guncakes.mp3 Guncakes.flac"
22:34 exio4 >mp3 to flac
22:34 exio4 mfw
22:34 exio4 that is like converting a jpg to png
22:34 exio4 you already lost important information
22:39 * GhostDoge : Making no sense since 2000 plol
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23:50 hmmmm WOOOT
23:50 hmmmm internet's back
23:50 LandMine yay
23:50 hmmmm hello there LandMind
23:50 hmmmm LandMine rather
23:51 LandMine lol hi
23:51 hmmmm weren't you exiled from this channel for being an asshat a couple years ago?
23:52 hmmmm wb
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23:55 LandMine i was yes
23:55 LandMine i was here all the time, under various alias but i have been forgiven

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