IRC log for #minetest, 2014-10-23

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00:11	DuDraig	I'm finding that the function given to minetest.register_on_placenode(func) is not being called for some nodes (like moreblocks:stair_stone_inner). The wiki docs do not mention any circumstance where this would happen. Does anyone know why this happens?
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00:34	hisforever	Hey everyone hows everything?
00:36	hisforever	Ok I'll ask this again I changed the time to stay at 12 noon so How do I change it back to default time?
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00:50	kaeza	assuming you set the time to noon with `/time` and `/set time_speed`, use `/set time_speed 72` and restart the game
00:56	kaeza	DuDraig, I'm not sure, but I think on_placenode callbacks don't get called if the node in question has a custom on_place function
00:57	kaeza	unless such function calls the callbacks explicitly
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01:20	hisforever	Ty Kaeza that helped
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01:23	ReaLM	Sup peeps
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01:25	Argyle77	Is Nature Pack mod redundant with Plantlife modpack?
01:26	VanessaE	yep
01:26	VanessaE	just make sure your copy of plantlife modpack is fully up-to-date that that you have no parts of the old nature pack installed.
01:27	Argyle77	I've been running both for a while now.
01:27	Argyle77	Guess I can remove Nature Pack.
01:27	VanessaE	yep.
01:27	Argyle77	Thanks!
01:27	VanessaE	current plantlife includes the few components of nature pack that are still useful
01:27	VanessaE	and those components have since been rewritten and/or expanded a bit
01:27	ReaLM	hi ve
01:27	VanessaE	hi
01:27	ReaLM	can i pm you today?
01:27	VanessaE	sure
01:28	VanessaE	Argyle77: no prob :)
01:29	VanessaE	Argyle77: be sure when you update (well, if you need to) that you take note of what components plantlife brings with it - there may be more there than you need/want
01:30	Argyle77	I've been going through all my mods today and connecting them to the git repositories.
01:30	VanessaE	ah good
01:30	VanessaE	those old mods that are in the debian repos and mmdb and so forth are...old. :)
01:31	Argyle77	I abandoned the distro repos a while ago in favor of compiling from source.
01:31	VanessaE	good :)
01:31	Argyle77	I wanted luajit, so no choice. It was easy though.
01:32	hisforever	Whats the lastes mintese?
01:34	hisforever	How do you compile from Source My linux os is manjaro
01:35	Argyle77	Goto https://github.com/minetest/minetest
01:35	hisforever	ty
01:35	Argyle77	There is a good readme file.
01:36	VanessaE	hisforever: when someone says "the latest minetest" or "latest git", what they mean is "whatever is the current commit in the git history", which will change from one day to another usually.
01:36	Argyle77	That's why I didn't know how to answer that question.
01:36	VanessaE	it's just shorthand is all.
01:37	hisforever	Should I delete the old minetest to install the newer
01:37	VanessaE	hisforever: do you track git using git clone/git pull?
01:38	hisforever	I have no idea sorry
01:38	VanessaE	then you don't :)
01:39	VanessaE	in which case, just back up your mods and worlds, and do whatever you did before. maybe you used Calinou's script?
01:40	hisforever	I installed it using yaourt in the terminal
01:40	VanessaE	yaourt?
01:40	hisforever	it's an arch depostory
01:40	Argyle77	You don't have to unless you 'make install', but I'd suggest run-in-place until you know your new version works.
01:41	VanessaE	ok so you're just using whatever's there' not quite the same thing
01:41	VanessaE	hisforever: stick with that, and poke at the folks who maintain the package you're using to get updates :)
01:41	hisforever	yes where do I get the the updates?
01:42	VanessaE	arch is not known for being easy to compile on compared to other distros :P
01:42	hisforever	I knoe hehe
01:42	VanessaE	I do not know
01:43	hisforever	I also have zorin 9 on this system thats a umbunto distro
01:43	VanessaE	you could try just cloning the repository and following the generic build instructions, see if it compiles :)
01:43	hisforever	ok ty
01:43	VanessaE	I know folks who run arch are able to build just fine, but HOW they do it, I don't know
01:44	VanessaE	good luck :)
01:44	hisforever	I run my mintest just fine ty for all you do God bless
01:45	VanessaE	yw :)
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01:52	* H-H-H	was just about to try to help as i run manjaro (basically ARCH)
01:59	LandMine	Yay im back!\=
01:59	ShadowNinja	o/
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02:19	jojoa1997	Hi
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02:20	VanessaE	hey jojo
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03:12	dardevelin	hi everyone
03:13	dardevelin	anyone around. wondering if is there anyone working or considering making an at least debug mode which acts as a live system in minetest
03:13	VanessaE	can you explain?
03:13	dardevelin	VanessaE, are you familiar with 'live systems' ?
03:14	VanessaE	well I know what a live boot image does of course
03:14	VanessaE	but in the sense you're using the phrase, I'm not sure what you mean
03:14	dardevelin	it's something you build in the core game infrastructure which allows you be running the game and add new code without restart of any part
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03:15	VanessaE	that's what I figured you meant.
03:15	VanessaE	no, such a feature is not being worked on
03:15	dardevelin	interest for it ?
03:15	dardevelin	as I would love to help getting something like that done :)
03:15	VanessaE	some folks have expressed interest in it though
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03:16	dardevelin	so mods are sweet but they still require going to main menu for proper activation/loading
03:16	dardevelin	also some mods can crash the system
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03:16	dardevelin	a live system either with debug break points or with a 'rewind'+fallback mechanism could be used
03:17	dardevelin	so instead of mods being at a core of a register basis where they conflict I am considering a consumable api
03:17	dardevelin	example a plugin that goes and changes behavior consumes a game event
03:17	dardevelin	so it doesn't propagate
03:17	VanessaE	sounds like material for a minetest issue
03:18	VanessaE	better put this there so it doesn't get lost
03:18	dardevelin	ok
03:20	LazyJ	When would using the tri-linear filter be better than using the bi-linear filter?
03:21	VanessaE	LazyJ: a matter of taste and GPU power
03:21	LazyJ	I forgot to add -> Minetest, "Settings" tab.
03:21	VanessaE	trilinear is generally better but may use more GPU
03:21	VanessaE	also you might not even be able to tell the difference :P
03:21	LazyJ	^ that's what prompted the question. ;)
03:22	VanessaE	I also don't remember the difference, from a technical standpoint
03:22	LazyJ	Should bi-linear filtering be used on 32px texture packs or is it better suited for 64px and up?
03:23	VanessaE	better to use those filters with textures on the order of 128px and up maybe
03:23	VanessaE	that's more of a personal preference
03:24	LazyJ	Thanks. ;)
03:24	LazyJ	I think my computer can handle it, in so much that I haven't been able to discern a difference.
03:26	LazyJ	But I have my computer juggling a lot of tasks so I try to be mindful of where I'm using settings that consume more resources than they are worth to me.
03:31	Sokomine	hi. hm. seems i can't compile the most recent version?
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03:32	LazyJ	Nope. Me neither. Posting an issue on GitHub atm.
03:32	LazyJ	It's the /po/ja/minetest.po that's fubared.
03:32	Sokomine	same here
03:33	LazyJ	I replaced it with an earlier version and the compile was able to finish.
03:34	Sokomine	sounds like a good idea. will do the same here
03:37	LazyJ	Ok, here's the issue link for any one else to chime-in on:
03:37	LazyJ	http://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1761
03:38	Zeno`	you should link to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/31a8a8022a8ab4b2d341821ae1987d19b0436a0e ;)
03:43	LazyJ	How? Copy/paste the link into the "issue" text or does GitHub have system for that?
03:46	Zeno`	How did you paste the other link?
03:46	Zeno`	You can probably just type 31a8a80 in your message I think
03:50	LazyJ	Copy/paste I understand. My dealings with GitHub have been such a hassle that I wondered if there was some internal, intricate linking system that required me to enter cryptic commands line-by-line in my terminal.
03:50	Zeno`	not that I am aware of :)
03:53	OldCoder	Zeno`, quick note as you are busy; previous lockup seems entirely fixed. I plan to have Sapier vet the patch and then do the pull request.
03:53	Zeno`	Nice
03:53	Zeno`	Hopefully sapier will show up again soon :3
03:53	OldCoder	It is basically your fix with the line that we discussed added
03:54	OldCoder	He was apparently online for half an hour today. I'll email him.
03:54	OldCoder	Oh, and timeouts increased. I think mobile is not nearly as fast as regular.
03:56	Zeno`	I don't think it is :)
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05:19	OldCoder	Would anybody like a couple of funny bits from a world?
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05:19	OldCoder	First, a young player has been begging to become admin. Here is his justification:
05:20	OldCoder	Moontest> <jerkiebro> i promise that u cwn trust me on my dads grave
05:20	OldCoder	<OldCoder> Is your Father actually deceased?
05:20	OldCoder	<Moontest> <jerkiebro> yes he died yesterdqy :',
05:20	OldCoder
05:20	OldCoder	Actually, that is the funny one, I'll leave it at that
05:21	OldCoder	Note: It is unlikely that the player's Father has actually met an untimely end as the player was online most of the day yesterday
05:21	OldCoder
05:22	OldCoder	The :', was moving, though
05:26	cYLUS	wHY DO NEW PLAYERS THINK THEY SHOULD BE ADMINISTRATORS WITHOUT EVEN GETTING TO KNOW THE SERVER FIRST? iT SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD SUSPECT THAT EVEN ASKING WOULD INSURE THEY DON'T GET THE POSITION.
05:27	cYLUS	OldCoder: wHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT THOSE CHARACTERS WERE MOVING?
05:27	OldCoder	cYLUS, Caps lock is cruise control for cool!
05:27	OldCoder	It was very affecting to see :',)
05:27	OldCoder	It was very affecting to see :',( *
05:28	cYLUS	OldCoder: tODAY IS iNTERNATIONAL cAP lOCK dAY!
05:28	* OldCoder	omitted the ( before
05:28	OldCoder	Ah, excuse me
05:28	OldCoder	A dedicated player at any rate
05:28	OldCoder	Who plays all day on the day of his Father's death and selflessly volunteers for admin the next day
05:28	OldCoder
05:29	cYLUS	aH. yEAH, VERY DEDICATED INDEED. i CAN ONLY HOPE TO ONE DAY HAVE SUCH DEDICATION MYSELF.
05:32	Zeno`	Wasn't yesterday international all caps day?
05:36	OldCoder	Date-Time Line?
05:37	OldCoder	International Date Line? Whatever it is called
05:37	cYLUS	Zeno`: i'T ONLY 22:37 HERE.
05:37	OldCoder	Caps Lock Day is hitting the Pacific Ocean now
05:38	Zeno`	Oh :(
05:38	Zeno`	I thought we decided to use UTC hehe
05:39	Zeno`	the Pacific Ocean? I am in the Pacific and it's 23rd October here (3:38PM)
05:39	Zeno`	Maybe it's the other side
05:43	Cylus	Okay, I wasn't aware we were using standard time. My bad.
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05:44	Zeno`	lol, I was joking (well, half joking)
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07:45	Xack	hi
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08:44	Elrondion	Hallo
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12:08	DuDraig	Kaeza: (if you ever see this) I've verified that your theory is partially correct. The offending nodes do override on_place with minetest.rotate_node. This calls minetest.rotate_and_place that apparently never calls minetest.item_place but uses some other method to place the node. This results in the node after_place and the global on_place never being called, and a couple of server log msgs not being logged.
12:08	DuDraig	If you use on_place to just call minetest.item_place, everything works as normal.
12:10	DuDraig	This would seem to be a bug with minetest.rotate_node acting in a manner different from minetest.item_place. Very frustrating.
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13:37	MinetestBot	[git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Fix syntax error in Japanese translation 737cce5 http://git.io/wQpN2w (2014-10-23T15:36:11+02:00)
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14:12	Yellowberry	Yellowberry has arrived!
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14:15	Yellowberry	hi ElectronLibre_
14:15	ElectronLibre_	Hello Yellowberry.
14:16	Yellowberry	wooow, this song be real gud
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14:17	Yellowberry	http://www.audiotool.com/track/time_is_candy_with_ignapon3_luxior_almate_teqtoniq_and_kavil/
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14:28	Yellowberry	lol
14:28	VanessaE	good morning.
14:29	Amaz	Good afternoon.
14:31	Yellowberry	VanessaE: Morning?
14:31	VanessaE	it is for me :)
14:31	VanessaE	hi
14:31	* Yellowberry	thought that VanessaE lived in Europe
14:32	VanessaE	hah
14:32	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: The great and powerful Timezones :P
14:32	Yellowberry	as most people in this project do
14:32	Yellowberry	PenguinDad: http://www.audiotool.com/track/time_is_candy_with_ignapon3_luxior_almate_teqtoniq_and_kavil/
14:34	Yellowberry	perfect for ze halloweenz
14:35	Yellowberry	:P
14:35	* Yellowberry	is going to carry around a jukebox playing that song all halloween night
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14:36	ElectronLibre	It's also very good for people having a very slow connection. ^^
14:36	Yellowberry	ElectronLibre: hmm?
14:39	* Yellowberry	wants to slap somebody
14:40	* PenguinDad	just finished rewatching one of his favorite episodes
14:42	Yellowberry	PenguinDad: of what?
14:43	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: Of the series with little cartoon horses ;)
14:44	Yellowberry	PenguinDad: oh snap, what episode might that be?
14:44	jin_xi	my little horse, obviously
14:44	Yellowberry	jin_xi: lel
14:46	* Yellowberry	likes the series about pastel-colored ponies too
14:47	Yellowberry	PenguinDad: did you check the song?
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14:48	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: yeah that song indeed has a halloweenish feel
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14:51	OldCoder	moreblocks:slab_cobble_inverted
14:51	Yellowberry	OldCoder: ???
14:51	OldCoder	Anybody got any idea how I get that out of an old moreblocks and merge it with a new one?
14:51	OldCoder	moreblocks is a pile of old socks
14:51	OldCoder	change change change all the time and old worlds break
14:52	OldCoder	Problem is, moreblocks doesn't define these things directly
14:52	OldCoder	Complicated code so when a block is dropped no way to restore it
14:52	OldCoder
14:53	coagen	bad db amirite?
14:53	Yellowberry	}~{
14:54	OldCoder	Hm? No, just evolving mod
14:54	OldCoder	With an old world that used old blocks
14:56	Yellowberry	somebody please compile for windows: https://github.com/justinmeza/lci
14:56	coagen	looking at the forum... maybe Calinou would be the person to ask...
14:56	coagen	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=509
14:58	coagen	Yellowberry: dude, read "INSTALLATION ON WINDOWS" at the bottom
14:58	Yellowberry	coagen: /me doesn't have MinGW
14:59	coagen	get it
14:59	coagen	its easy to install
14:59	coagen	click, click, click, click
14:59	coagen	done
14:59	ElectronLibre	Without MinGW, or another compilation programm, It will be very complicated.
15:00	coagen	Yellowberry: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Installer/
15:00	coagen	go go go
15:00	* Yellowberry	doesn't like installing things
15:00	kaeza	mornings/afternoons
15:01	PenguinDad	Good evening kaeza
15:01	VanessaE	hi
15:01	Yellowberry	are these guys for real?
15:01	Yellowberry	http://lolcode.org/1.2_spec.html
15:02	coagen	yes
15:03	coagen	its been around for a few years now
15:03	VanessaE	Yellowberry: yep, it's for real.
15:03	coagen	wow 7 years old
15:03	coagen	damn
15:03	coagen	Yellowberry: here are some others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Esoteric_programming_languages
15:04	Yellowberry	coagen: that's where I found it
15:04	Yellowberry	:F
15:05	coagen	:)
15:05	coagen	always a good read
15:06	Yellowberry	yep
15:07	Yellowberry	I am trying to learn brainfuck
15:07	Yellowberry	XD
15:07	coagen	Yellowberry: good luck :)
15:07	Yellowberry	thanks sir
15:08	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: I prefer this language :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language#Piet
15:08	Yellowberry	that one is cool too
15:11	* Yellowberry	is slowly turning into a music zombie
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15:13	Yellowberry	http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/048/9/7/Zombie_fruitZ__Banana_by_Athrial.jpg
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15:14	* Bag0fSwag	is smart
15:15	sfan5	Yellowberry: can you please decide on one nick?
15:15	Yellowberry	yeah
15:15	Yellowberry	this is it
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15:20	OldCoder	Hm. Does anybody know if kpgmobs will spawn on existing ground?
15:21	Amaz	OldCoder, they are a fork of simple mobs, so yes.
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15:22	OldCoder	simple mobs is different from Sapier animals, then? Amaz
15:22	Amaz	Yep.
15:22	OldCoder	Which is better, kpgmobs or simple mobs?
15:22	Amaz	Different api's, different everything's, pretty much.
15:22	OldCoder	Are both acceptable CPU?
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15:23	Amaz	Well your LOTT server is running what is pretty much simple mobs, so you should be able to say, as for the other one, I don't know.
15:23	OldCoder	You have a simple mobs fork yourself then?
15:23	Amaz	Yep.
15:23	OldCoder	kk
15:23	Amaz	It adds mobs from LOTR
15:24	OldCoder	kk
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15:33	Yellowberry	http://harpbeta.tk/moontest
15:33	Yellowberry	!title
15:33	MinetestBot	Yellowberry: Moontest \| HarpNet
15:33	Yellowberry	seems legit?
15:34	Yellowberry	-?
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15:41	Yellowberry	GUYS!
15:41	Yellowberry	https://mediacru.sh/0sSXEd_9ErUc
15:42	sfan5	>61 views
15:42	Yellowberry	sfan5: hmm?
15:43	OldCoder	Can entities be aliased?
15:47	iqualfragile	OldCoder: alaised?
15:47	OldCoder	mobs:rats to kgbmods:rats e.g.
15:47	Yellowberry	iqualfragile: like blocks being aliased
15:48	iqualfragile	aah, aliased, not alaised
15:48	iqualfragile	makes more sense
15:49	iqualfragile	OldCoder: no idea, try it out, i would be interested in the result
15:49	OldCoder	kk
15:52	DuDraig	How do I get a pointed_thing for a pos for use with minetest.item_place?
15:53	DuDraig	Or do you just literally build the pointed_thing table?
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16:04	kaeza	sfan5, for some reason DLing builds from your server does not work. it gets cut at ~50%. is this known?
16:04	sfan5	I get this too sometimes
16:04	sfan5	just try again Â¯\_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯
16:06	kaeza	>getting 1mbps
16:06	kaeza	this is a first
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16:07	DuDraig	kaeza: Thx for your help yesterday. Did you see my earlier reply?
16:08	kaeza	must have missed it
16:08	DuDraig	Hol' on...
16:08	DuDraig	Kaeza: (if you ever see this) I've verified that your theory is partially correct. The offending nodes do override on_place with minetest.rotate_node. This calls minetest.rotate_and_place that apparently never calls minetest.item_place but uses some other method to place the node. This results in the node after_place and the global on_place never being called, and a couple of server log msgs not being logged.
16:08	DuDraig	If you use on_place to just call minetest.item_place, everything works as normal.
16:08	DuDraig	This would seem to be a bug with minetest.rotate_node acting in a manner different from minetest.item_place. Very frustrating.
16:08	DuDraig	That was it.
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16:10	kaeza	I see. I don't recall if that's intended though
16:11	DuDraig	I can't think of a reason why it should be. It seriously breaks any attempt to manage things like: last node of a type placed by a player or nil for any other type.
16:12	DuDraig	My current question is: How do I get a pointed_thing for a pos for use with minetest.item_place, or do I just literally build it?
16:13	Calinou	pointed_thing.above?
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16:14	DuDraig	I only have a pos, not another pointed_thing. I want to place a node at a pos.
16:15	PenguinDad	DuDraig: how about minetest.place_node?
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16:15	Calinou	https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/source/c20539a16db9bea61e2c8ba5b96b145fed9ad1b6:mods/mobs/init.lua
16:16	Calinou	https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/source/c20539a16db9bea61e2c8ba5b96b145fed9ad1b6:mods/mobs/init.lua â† with adjustment
16:16	DuDraig	<bang head on screen> I got so wound up in the docs about using minetest.item_place that I completely missed minetest.place_node. <blush> Thx.
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16:18	DuDraig	However, the base question still stands. How do you get a pointed_thing for a pos, or do you just literally build it? Like: {type = "node", under = pos, above = {x = pos.x, y = pos.y + 1, z = pos.z}}
16:18	kaeza	yay download worked
16:18	kaeza	testing new meshnodes :3
16:19	PenguinDad	kaeza is meshing with meshnodes :D
16:19	Yellowberry	lol
16:20	kaeza	ph33r mai blenderer zk1llz https://mediacru.sh/ANRetltFoBEc
16:20	Jordach_	no
16:21	kaeza	okay ;_;
16:21	PenguinDad	I only accomplished to make a 75 poly cube in blender :(
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16:30	Yellowberry	guys, zombie bananas look scary: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/048/9/7/Zombie_fruitZ__Banana_by_Athrial.jpg
16:33	Calinou	PenguinDad, use subdivisions
16:33	Calinou	Filters â†’ Subdivision Surface â†’ Simple Subdivâ€¦ or there's something else intended for subdivision
16:35	Calinou	is the format X3D?
16:36	Calinou	nvm found it
16:38	Yellowberry	Calinou is genious!
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16:39	Yellowberry	hey look its a KRock!
16:39	Krock	hey look its a YEllowberry
16:39	Krock	!
16:40	Yellowberry	lol
16:40	Yellowberry	http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/048/9/7/Zombie_fruitZ__Banana_by_Athrial.jpg
16:40	Krock	terrorana
16:41	Yellowberry	lel
16:41	Yellowberry	I got a letter from Google
16:42	Calinou	â€œWe would like to buy Moontestâ€
16:42	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: which letter did you take? :P
16:42	Yellowberry	PenguinDad: LOL, the nice green L
16:42	Yellowberry	Googe!
16:43	Yellowberry	:s
16:44	Yellowberry	Calinou: ha
16:44	Yellowberry	suprised you remember that
16:45	Yellowberry	I wonder if I got a reply
16:46	Calinou	trying to make slope meshnode
16:46	Calinou	:'(
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16:46	kaeza	my mesh is taking a nap https://mediacru.sh/k-iQHQptrQHV
16:46	Yellowberry	do meshnodes have mesh shaped collision boxes?
16:46	kaeza	nope
16:47	Yellowberry	that would be awesome
16:47	Jordach_	kaeza, you're doing it wrong ;3
16:47	Calinou	half-working but mesh is too dark!
16:47	Calinou	nvm
16:47	Calinou	very cool nonetheless
16:47	Calinou	actual slopes
16:48	Calinou	this is the first time I'm modeling for Minetest
16:48	Yellowberry	Calinou: screenshot?
16:48	* Jordach_	giggles at the slope joke
16:48	kaeza	Calinou, remember to add paramtype="light"
16:49	* kaeza	wonders why the engine doesn't do so automatically if not specified
16:49	Yellowberry	because its a silly API
16:50	Yellowberry	swag
16:51	kaeza	Jordach_, which version of blender are you using?
16:51	Jordach_	2.72
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16:53	Yellowberry	WHO VISITED MY SITE WITH SAFARI!?!
16:54	PenguinDad	kaeza: because servers can't load the meshes
16:54	Calinou	my model is not properly offset
16:54	Calinou	kaeza, done
16:55	* Yellowberry	considers putting a safari block on his website
16:55	Calinou	don't
16:56	Yellowberry	said person is located in Spokane
16:56	Yellowberry	Calinou: was that in response to me?
16:57	Calinou	yes
16:57	Yellowberry	why not?
16:57	Calinou	kaeza, how do you handle rotation and position?
16:57	Calinou	my meshnode isn't properly rotated and positioned
16:57	Yellowberry	AFAIK I have a IE block
16:58	Yellowberry	noe
16:58	Yellowberry	2 IE visits
16:59	Calinou	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/d9-Rrzv5qrfU.jpg
16:59	Yellowberry	also, would this be a chromebook?: Browser: Chrome OS: Intel 10.9
16:59	sfan5	no
16:59	sfan5	thats max os x
17:00	Yellowberry	hmm
17:00	Yellowberry	ok
17:00	Yellowberry	and I assume x86_64 is linux?
17:01	sfan5	o.o
17:01	Yellowberry	wut...
17:01	sfan5	what kind of shitty analytics do you have?
17:01	Yellowberry	somebody visited my site from an Xbox...
17:01	Yellowberry	Google Analytics, but its hard to control
17:02	Yellowberry	brb
17:02	PenguinDad	Yellowberry: x86_64 is x86_64
17:02	Yellowberry	lol
17:02	Calinou	semi-working now
17:02	Calinou	upside-down
17:02	Calinou	can be climbed smoothly
17:03	kaeza	PenguinDad, hm?
17:03	kaeza	Calinou, what do you mean?
17:04	Calinou	my slopes
17:05	PenguinDad	kaeza: you can't have mesh shaped selection/collision boxes unless the server would be able to load the meshes
17:05	Calinou	PenguinDad, use collision_box to approximate
17:05	Calinou	new, separate collision box handling (finally)
17:05	VanessaE	Calinou: just use my models
17:05	VanessaE	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10428
17:06	Calinou	oh, too late
17:06	Calinou	do you have .blend?
17:06	VanessaE	yep
17:06	VanessaE	in the zip
17:06	Calinou	cool, thanks
17:06	VanessaE	yw
17:09	Calinou	whoa, your .blend is complicated
17:09	VanessaE	heh
17:09	VanessaE	the .obj files are pretty simple
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17:11	Yellowberry	guys
17:11	Yellowberry	there is a party in #ban
17:11	Yellowberry	:3
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17:14	Yellowberry	hi
17:14	Krock	hi
17:15	Yellowberry	hi
17:15	Yellowberry	hi
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17:15	Yellowberry	lol
17:18	Yellowberry	##chat is having a serious beer discussion
17:18	Yellowberry	lel
17:18	kaeza	PenguinDad, ah
17:19	* Yellowberry	is cold
17:19	sfan5	Yellowberry: friendly reminder of the no excessive off-topic rule
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17:19	Yellowberry	sfan5: understood, sir
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17:32	Yellowberry	the first 3 people that say "banana" get to decide what I work on next in moontest
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17:37	iqualfragile	banana
17:37	iqualfragile	what is moontest?
17:37	Calinou	oh, I forgot: UbuntoooÂ§Â§Â§!!!Â§Â§!
17:38	iqualfragile	Calinou: wut?
17:39	Krock	84N4N4
17:39	Calinou	iqualfragile, 14.10
17:39	Yellowberry	iqualfragile: #moontest
17:39	Yellowberry	Krock: #moontest
17:40	iqualfragile	nice b8 m8 i rly apechi8
17:40	Krock	john_minetest, for kittens.
17:43	sfan5	hm
17:43	sfan5	lemme cite Jordach
17:44	sfan5	Dez 12 20:53:20 <Jordach> zsoltisawesome, and nobody gave a shit about moontest
17:44	sfan5	^ Yellowberry
17:44	kaeza	https://mediacru.sh/WpEasjKtomyy
17:44	sfan5	I wonder which 12th Dec that is
17:44	sfan5	probably last year
17:44	kilbith	kaeza: fake ?
17:45	kaeza	real :D
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17:46	kaeza	kilbith, meshnodes
17:46	kilbith	yeah, just realized
17:49	kilbith	kaeza: a thiner stem please
17:49	iqualfragile	no, thicker!
17:50	Calinou	add some noise on stem
17:50	PenguinDad	kaeza: wow what a high quality screenshot
17:51	kaeza	PenguinDad, PNG version for only $49.99
17:53	* sfan5	throws dogecoins at kaeza
17:53	* kaeza	meows at sfan5
17:53	* sfan5	paws kaeza
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17:59	Calinou	small screenshots should be PNG
18:00	sfan5	you mistyped "everything"
18:00	Yellowberry	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqZSYGLk3Y
18:01	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/FIEvVEz40QmK.png
18:01	Jordach	woo student discounts on EVERYTHING
18:02	Calinou	to nusextra, â€œappâ€Â is not an acronym
18:02	Calinou	nice e-mail :p
18:02	Calinou	nice Â£1 donation
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18:03	Jordach	i can save Â£4#
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18:06	rubenwardy	Hi all!
18:06	Calinou	hi rubenwardy
18:06	Calinou	rubenwardy, updated my Ubuntu build
18:06	Calinou	(also 14.10 is out)
18:06	Krock	wow. setting fsaa to 3 speeds up my graphic card grealy
18:07	Krock	*greatly
18:08	PenguinDad	Krock: what about other values?
18:08	Krock	PenguinDad, 1 looks a bit pixeled, 3 lokos smooth...
18:08	Krock	*looks
18:09	PenguinDad	4 makes plantlike nodes look bad for me :(
18:09	Krock	10 is amazing. almost no pixels
18:10	Krock	*no visible pixels
18:11	Krock	amaze. drawtime under 3 (ms?)
18:12	Calinou	3 is not a valid AA value
18:12	Calinou	your driver is probably quirking and thus having more FPS
18:12	Calinou	same for 10
18:12	Calinou	valid values are powers of 2
18:12	Calinou	2, 4, 8, 16 but 8 and 16 may be blurry on some drivers for some reason
18:12	Krock	32...
18:13	Krock	works.
18:13	Krock	well, I can't see a difference between 4 and 32 :3
18:13	rubenwardy	Sometimes they round up to the next 2^n
18:14	Calinou	that's usually what happens, yes
18:16	Krock	hmm.. "Experimental option, might cause visible spaces between blocks" - the opposite happens in my case
18:16	Krock	the sky-colored pixels disappear
18:17	Calinou	look at wield items
18:17	Calinou	3D models
18:17	Krock	oh there.I see
18:17	Krock	not tragic at all
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18:18	Krock	weird. this graphics card got a benchmark below 100
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18:32	kaeza	https://mediacru.sh/6zC2h9-iN7mH
18:32	OldCoder	Oh, check out kpgmods, seriously
18:33	OldCoder	The bees are great. Bzzz.
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18:52	Krock	kaeza, blurred leaves pls
18:53	Calinou	videocardbenchmark is unreliable and NVIDIA-biased, Krock
18:53	Calinou	same goes for cpubenchmark
18:53	Krock	Calinou, didn't know. Is there any reliable benchmark software?
18:54	Krock	well, this CPU is actually 2 times faster when compiling minetest than the previous (from 20 minutes to 10)
18:54	Krock	and the "points" are also double as high here
18:55	Krock	eww. compicated sentence
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19:05	iqualfragile	Krock: glxgears!
19:05	Krock	oke
19:06	Krock	wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark ....
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19:17	Jordach	sfan5, crop then !cat https://i.imgur.com/qAPbjuy.jpg
19:17	Jordach	and this https://i.imgur.com/VxMUPa3.jpg
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19:24	Megaf_	!seen amaz
19:24	MinetestBot	Megaf_: amaz was last seen at 2014-10-23 15:23:57 UTC on #minetest
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19:25	kaeza	https://mediacru.sh/RCyYX46n1011
19:27	Calinou	some Carbone tweaksâ€¦ you can move faster in lava, makes it easier to escape
19:27	Calinou	Kray, websites? not really :/
19:27	Kray	wut
19:27	Calinou	but software? Phoronix Test Suite
19:28	Calinou	you were asking for websites, not software
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19:44	Miguel2706	Hello, Can I cross compile from linux to a Windows that not have mingw?
19:44	Calinou	Miguel2706, ask in #minetest-dev maybe for questions like that
19:44	Calinou	(I don't know)
19:44	Miguel2706	Ok, thanks :D
19:45	ElectronLibre	At least is it possible? ._.
19:47	kaeza	it is. AFAIK sfan_5 does that
19:48	kaeza	well, he uses buildbot, which uses mingw
19:48	kaeza	oh "not mingw"
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19:53	Jordach	sfan5, moar !cat https://i.imgur.com/pbxr681.jpg
19:55	gravgun	Jordach: what's with those cat images being added to a bot's source?
19:56	Jordach	!cat
19:56	MinetestBot	http://i.imgur.com/MSLjnAw.jpg
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19:56	gravgun	Just random cat image dispensary :3 ?
19:58	gravgun	!cat
19:58	MinetestBot	http://i.imgur.com/0ekIBPl.jpg
19:58	gravgun	yay
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21:11	sfan5	Jordach: make a pull pls, I have no time for this today D:
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21:14	jordan4ibanez	sfan5 /o
21:14	jordan4ibanez	oops!
21:14	jordan4ibanez	o/
21:17	Jordach	wat is this bullshit https://i.imgur.com/X0OFLsg.png
21:17	Jordach	this shit actually works
21:17	* Cylus	touches his head like jordan4ibanez
21:18	jordan4ibanez	I think I subconciously did it because I am trying to learn this irssi thing
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21:29	Sikerim	Selam. TÃ¼rk var mÄ± aranÄ±zda acaba?
21:31	iqualfragile	Sikerim: selam ne yazik ki
21:31	Sikerim	hahahahaha
21:32	jordan4ibanez	Sweeds. #_@
21:32	Sikerim	god damn sweeds!
21:32	jordan4ibanez	SWEEDS -3-
21:34	iqualfragile	candybox2.net
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21:35	gravgun	iqualfragile: so you are playing/played it too? I finished it once
21:35	iqualfragile	gravgun: part two, too?
21:36	gravgun	iqualfragile: Part 2 = CandyBox2? (didn't play CandyBox 1)
21:37	iqualfragile	yes
21:37	iqualfragile	there was a candybox 1
21:37	iqualfragile	"i played it before it was cool,
21:37	iqualfragile	"
21:37	gravgun	heh
21:37	gravgun	So yea I finished part 2 only, never played part 1
21:38	iqualfragile	candybox.net
21:39	gravgun	(Well actually knew there was CB1, got on the website but told myself "2 > 1 so 2 is better")
21:39	iqualfragile	its different
21:46	jordan4ibanez	are there any compiler flags which makes minetest even faster?
21:56	iqualfragile	jordan4ibanez: try profiling
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22:03	iqualfragile	jordan4ibanez: -fprofile-generate and -fprofiletuse
22:03	iqualfragile	or better profile with perf and use -fauto-profile
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22:19	iqualfragile	jordan4ibanez: please do report results back :D
22:19	iqualfragile	OldCoder: so, does aliasing work?
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22:21	Yellowberry	Ha!
22:21	* Yellowberry	is very tired
22:23	OldCoder	iqualfragile, Have not had time to test it yet. Spent the day fixing up worlds and mods. I've put it on the list and we'll see.
22:23	OldCoder	Check out the latest iteration of Silvercrab
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22:34	jordan4ibanez	hmmmm
22:34	jordan4ibanez	does -fomit-frame-pointer work lol
22:35	jordan4ibanez	and iqualfragile I'm still in the gentoo terminal environment. :/
22:35	VanessaE	-fracing-rstripes -ftype-r-sticker
22:35	VanessaE	;P
22:35	jordan4ibanez	But a typer is a twin turbo if it's jdm
22:35	jordan4ibanez	NO RICE HERE BABY
22:37	iqualfragile	jordan4ibanez: emerge X?
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23:03	jordan4ibanez	emerge everything
23:04	jordan4ibanez	exit
23:04	jordan4ibanez	let's all ignore that
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23:34	iqualfragile	thats my worst nightmare
23:35	iqualfragile	pacman -Suy
23:35	iqualfragile	mypassword
23:35	gravgun	Suy
23:35	gravgun	seems wrong
23:35	gravgun	always seen Syu on wiki
23:37	SylvieLorxu	Suy would do the same but yes, Syu looks more aesthetically pleasing
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