Time Nick Message 00:14 ZombieAlive Artemis3: Hola chica que tal me echa una manito. 01:09 kaeza doing anything in blender is insane, unless you have a 5000+px resolution and a 8 monitor setup 01:11 VanessaE blender will drive you to have a stroke. 01:12 VanessaE I say that after spending all evening yesterday to make the three models in that "mesh slope test" mod. 01:13 kaeza hah 01:13 VanessaE (and one or more UV maps apparently are screwed up a little, yet) 01:15 ReaLM sup sup my peeps 01:15 VanessaE hi 01:16 ReaLM vanessa can i pm you 01:16 ReaLM ? 01:16 VanessaE I'd prefer not. 01:16 ReaLM hmm ok 01:16 VanessaE not in a very good state of mind right now 01:16 ReaLM sounds fair 01:16 ReaLM dont worry 01:16 ReaLM ill try later 01:16 ReaLM OldCoder can i pm you? 01:17 OldCoder Sure 01:55 realtinymonster good day peoples 02:28 ReaLM hi rtm 04:53 hisforeverkid hi I need help with a word the statment is ..??? air default:water_source 04:54 hisforeverkid /?? air default:water_source what are the question mark word? 04:54 VanessaE hisforeverkid: //replace air default:water_source 04:55 VanessaE but first, 04:55 hisforeverkid thanks 04:55 VanessaE make sure that what you're about to replace will not cause a spill 04:55 VanessaE it's good to //replace air cobble 04:55 hisforeverkid I rembered everything but that one 04:55 VanessaE check that it fits, then //replace cobble default:water_source 04:56 hisforeverkid ok ty good night 04:56 VanessaE night 05:39 Fritigern VanessaE: I am no Blender Guru either, so what i would prolly do is use Wings3d to create the mesh, explort as obj, import in blender then export as .blend. That may be a little easier 05:39 Fritigern *export 06:46 kilbith Zeno` : there's certainly something buggy with the latest RBA's changes. I spent only few minutes on VE-Creative, I experienced some frequent & suddent FPS-drops, and my RAM-usage was being mad : https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U9j3rv8fMmcV.png 06:47 kilbith ^ RealBadAngel 06:47 kilbith latest -dev from today 06:48 Zeno` what is RSS? 06:49 kilbith the RAM usage 06:49 kilbith it was very *heavy* to close the client 06:49 kilbith and sloow 06:49 Zeno` 167777216 TB ?! 06:49 ThatGraemeGuy what the fudge? :-o 06:50 kilbith I had to shutdown the computer so it was sloow 06:50 Zeno` well using 16777216TB would likely cause things to be a bit slow 06:50 Zeno` how is that even possible? 06:50 ThatGraemeGuy I have to close my client if I play for a long stretch, but it never gets that bad 06:51 ThatGraemeGuy i'll get to a point where its using about 6GB and then i need to close it because it starts paging too much 06:51 ThatGraemeGuy but I haven't updated in a couple of weeks either 06:51 kilbith i'm talking about the latest -dev 06:52 ThatGraemeGuy yeah, you should probably ignore my rambling :-) 06:52 kilbith which is seem very buggy 06:52 Zeno` I'll try with valgrind in a moment and see if anything pops up 06:53 Zeno` also launching client now to see if I can get RAM usage like that :D 06:53 kilbith other players complained about that recently 06:53 kilbith fps-drops 06:55 kilbith look into by screenie, the memory usage is full 06:56 kilbith one week ago it was at only 2GB 06:56 kilbith now 4GB 06:58 Zeno` running client now on same server 06:58 Zeno` will see what happens 06:58 Zeno` brb 06:58 kilbith thanks 07:00 RealBadAngel killbith you have compiled with my latest patch? 07:01 kilbith I have your latest patch installed yes 07:01 kilbith https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+packages 07:01 kilbith ubuntu 14.04 - 8 hours ago 07:03 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/d221917170c2bb43c66e5e09f2a43350cf28d71b 07:03 RealBadAngel i mean this one 07:05 RealBadAngel ah yes 07:05 RealBadAngel it has it 07:05 RealBadAngel i will try to find out reasons for such enormous ram usage 07:21 kilbith yes, I have this one 08:08 Zeno` mine is not leaking :/ 08:09 Zeno` FPS issues *seem* to occur throughout the day/night transition 08:09 Zeno` For no apparent (to me) reason 08:57 kaeza oh hey, wings3d interface is actually usable 08:57 kaeza and has .x export :> 09:38 Zeno` hmm, even I might be able to use that 09:38 Zeno` (wings3d) 09:42 Fritigern Wings3d is a little dated, especially their gui, but it works :-) 10:46 Zeno` hi Fritigern 10:46 Zeno` hi nore 10:46 Zeno` hi Viper168 11:05 * Zeno` drops a pin 11:06 lasers [KA-BOOOM] 11:06 Zeno` haha 12:48 * FR^2 drops a table. 12:54 hisforever Hi I'm using dreambuilers and when I use a //p set I get like a black fog in the land I've tried to //p set it again and it clears what I just //p set but when I //reset the black fog moves to a new location. Any sugestions on how to get this fog off? 12:55 Amaz Select the area with the black fog in, and run //replace air air 12:55 hisforever will that leave builds in tact? 12:56 Amaz Yep. 12:59 hisforever ok ty I'll do that 13:15 hisforever Thanks Amaz that worked like a charm 13:17 hisforever need 1 more Question answered if possible I set day to stay at 12:00 all the time Hho do I get it back to defalt time? 13:18 hisforever hho = how lol 13:27 kilbith what do you think about a new MT organization like that ? https://www.mediacru.sh/o5n61FzBmMg6 13:34 Zeno` I think it's good if it can me made to work 13:37 kilbith in parralel to that, there may be a remuneration system based on donations for motivating more devs 13:48 PilzAdam kilbith, thats basically how it looks currently; except that we don't have a "leader" 13:48 kilbith and we need him 13:49 PilzAdam also a single person to approve pull requests is too inefficient 13:49 kilbith fighting too 13:50 PilzAdam a single person who can decided what they want causes "fighting" too 13:51 PilzAdam the main problem currently that most devs don't review pull requests / write code anymore 13:51 kilbith problems is that no-one take his responsabilities for make radical decisions, and the apathy is widely spreaded in there 13:51 kilbith if someone is away for a certain time, all become suddently frozen 13:52 kilbith it's abnormal and even dangereous in long-term 13:52 PilzAdam reviewing pull requests doesn't require making "radical decisions" 13:53 PilzAdam [15:51:50] if someone is away for a certain time, all become suddently frozen <- wouldn't your suggestion make that even worse? 13:54 PilzAdam when everything depends on a single "leader" 13:54 kilbith the builders/testers team should allow the radical decisions in right, by flying over the long / unproductive arguing 13:54 Zeno` the main problem currently that most devs don't review pull requests / write code anymore <--- Isn't that kind of bad? 13:54 Zeno` How can anything happen if that's really the situation? 13:55 PilzAdam Zeno`, yes, that is bad 13:55 PilzAdam but a "leader" doesn't solve this 13:55 kilbith the regular gathering 'per week' may at least a good partial solution 13:56 Zeno` take me to your leader, I shall speak to him! 13:56 PilzAdam kilbith, we already tried that 13:56 PilzAdam only the one who wanted the meeting was there 13:56 kilbith so, give sanctions for those that don't honor the gather/rendez-vous 13:57 PilzAdam you forget that everyone here is for fun 13:57 * Zeno` watches the tumble-weeds roll across the sand 13:58 PilzAdam nobody would want to join the dev team if it has rules like "weekly meetings you must attend" 13:58 Zeno` nobody can join the dev team anyway :D 13:59 Zeno` anyway, night all 14:00 PilzAdam a solution (tm) would be to encourage the existing devs to review pull requests (merging pull requests needs 2 core devs) 14:00 kilbith if people is remunerated, money can raise the motivation, the sanctions for omit the gather could be the reducing/removing the remuneration 14:01 PilzAdam at least for me, money wouldn't increase my motivation 14:01 PilzAdam it would rather benefit in seeing pull requests as "work that has to be done" and not as a fun thing to do 14:03 kilbith imo, actually there is a lack of attendance/responsibility 14:06 Brains There is actually some evidence that offering money can *de*motivate folks in situations like these. 14:06 Brains kilbith: Answer simple. Fork, setup your organization the way you want. 14:07 kilbith i'm not a dev and forking is bad for coordination 14:08 Brains In that case, you'll need to convince people to do what you want... And sanctions don't tend to do that. 14:08 MARKTRACEUR HEY MINETESTERS. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT MINETEST IS WOEFULLY UNPREPARED FOR INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY. 14:08 reactor [slow clap] 14:08 kilbith MT has lost 2 providentials devs with forking-principle, xyz & proller 14:09 Brains Forking is actually not a bad thing in general... And certainly not in concept. Most of the problems that occur show that not-forking wasn't tenable. 14:12 PILZADAM MARKTRACEUR, THANKS FOR THE REMINDER 14:13 MARKTRACEUR PILZADAM: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME! I EXIST ONLY TO BE HELPFUL, AS YOU KNOW. 14:13 Zeno` IT IS OCTOBER 23 HERE 14:13 PILZADAM :-/ THAT MEANS I CAN'T CODE TODAY... 14:14 Zeno` COBOL IS OK 14:14 Zeno` HOW DO TIMEZONES WORK WITH THESE INTERNATIONAL DAYS? 14:15 Zeno` BECAUSE IT'S SERIOUSLY THE 23RD HERE 14:15 MARKTRACEUR PILZADAM: THERE'S A TERMCAP COMMAND OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOUR ENTIRE TERMINAL CAPITALIZED IN APPEARANCE... 14:15 reactor дОЕС КОИ-7 КОУНТ АС КАПС ЛОЦК? 14:15 MARKTRACEUR Zeno`: I GUESS YOU COULD INTERPRET IT TO BE OCTOBER 22ND IN UTC STILL MAYBE? 14:16 Zeno` YES I GUESS IT'S ONLY 14:15 UTC 14:16 Zeno` I AM GLAD I WILL BE SLEEPING MOST OF THIS DAY 14:17 reactor и ГУЕСС НОБОДИ КАН РЕАД ИТ ТХЕН. :( 14:18 e1z0 i can read it 14:18 e1z0 :| 14:19 Zeno` I THINK I WILL BUY A TRACTOR TO CELEBRATE 14:20 PILZADAM MARKTRACEUR, HOW DO I SET THAT? 14:22 reactor аНИ ТЕСТ СУБЙЕКТС ТОДАЫ? 14:22 MARKTRACEUR PILZADAM: I FORGET, SORRY. 14:23 PILZADAM WHEN I SEARCH IT THE ONLY RESULTS I GET ARE ABOUT STRING PROCESSING IN BASH SCRIPTS... 14:23 SylvieLorxu MARKTRACEUR: Am I supposed to use the physical caps lock key or the key that's bound to caps lock? I bound my caps lock to escape 14:24 MARKTRACEUR SylvieLorxu: I THINK WHATEVER MAKES YOUR TEXT COME OUT AS CAPITALS, BUT I SUPPOSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS. I DON'T MIND EITHER WAY 14:25 SylvieLorxu oKAY, THANKS 14:25 Brains Since the title refers to 'Capslock' and not Capitals, I'd argue you should punch the Capslock and be done with it. 14:54 Vazon Is OldCoder around? 15:05 PenguinDad !doge 15:05 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000066 BTC 15:06 MXRecord 66! 15:08 PenguinDad MXRecord: the value is 0.00000600 BTC too low :P 15:10 MXRecord PenguinDad: yep 15:12 * MXRecord will be back in a few seconds, no pings please 15:12 PenguinDad Aw yiss only 5 days left! 15:12 MXRecord PenguinDad: until what? 15:13 PenguinDad MXRecord: Until Abandon Ship gets released 15:13 MXRecord I will be back, I am going to change nicks a few times 15:15 Yellowberry PenguinDad: i'm back 15:15 Yellowberry what is coming out? 15:16 PenguinDad Yellowberry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandon_Ship_%28Knife_Party_album%29 15:17 PenguinDad mfw i didn't notice the release got postponed 15:17 Yellowberry lol 15:17 Yellowberry now 19 days 15:17 Yellowberry XD 15:21 Yellowberry Hi! 15:21 Yellowberry Bye! 15:21 Yellowberry lol 15:22 Yellowberry Hi shadowzone! 15:22 shadowzone hello 15:22 Yellowberry like my nick? 15:26 jojoa1997 yelllo 15:26 * PenguinDad yells at jojoa1997 15:28 shadowzone uh... 15:28 shadowzone I don't know who you are. 15:29 Yellowberry shadowzone: I am RTM 15:29 shadowzone oh. 15:29 shadowzone nice nick. 15:29 Yellowberry thanks sir 15:29 coagen Yellowberry: I prefer pineapples 15:29 Yellowberry If you don't get it, i'm a banana 15:29 shadowzone sir? 15:29 coagen oh 15:29 coagen i'm an egg 15:30 Yellowberry shadowzone: what? 15:30 gloop I'm a-- oh right, nobody cares 15:30 shadowzone I'm a girl. 15:30 Yellowberry shadowzone: lel 15:30 coagen i'm a chick w/huge tits 15:31 * Yellowberry thinks of everyone as sir 15:31 PenguinDad I'm a penguin who sounds like a cat when he wakes up lol 15:31 Yellowberry lol 15:32 Yellowberry what is the currency conversion command for minetestbot? 15:32 PenguinDad !btc ARS 15:32 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: RUB, DKK, CNY, USD, KRW, HKD, BRL, SEK, AUD, GBP, CHF, EUR, TWD, NZD, SGD, JPY, THB, CLP, PLN, CAD, ISK 15:32 Yellowberry cool 15:32 Yellowberry thanks 15:32 Yellowberry !btc HUF 15:32 MinetestBot Yellowberry: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: RUB, DKK, CNY, USD, KRW, HKD, BRL, SEK, AUD, GBP, CHF, EUR, TWD, NZD, SGD, JPY, THB, CLP, PLN, CAD, ISK 15:33 Yellowberry :( 15:33 * sfan5 paws PenguinDad 15:33 Yellowberry ah 15:33 Yellowberry ! 15:33 * PenguinDad wings sfan5 15:33 Yellowberry I am not paying 650 dollars for a handheld 15:33 * sfan5 purrs at PenguinDad 15:34 Yellowberry who would get this: https://www.dragonbox.de/index.php?id_product=112&controller=product 15:34 Yellowberry in this channel 15:34 sfan5 !title 15:34 MinetestBot sfan5: OpenPandora 1GHz Edition 15:34 sfan5 openpandora sucks 15:34 sfan5 a bit 15:35 Yellowberry why? 15:35 gravgun OpenPandora = PowerVR shit gpu 15:35 gravgun keep ImgTech out of my house. 15:36 gravgun Unless they provide free drivers. 15:37 sfan5 powerVR sucks too 15:37 sfan5 there are no free drivers 15:37 gravgun actually 15:37 gravgun i found somthing interesting on GitHub about PVR driver 15:37 gravgun The binary driver's source was leaked 15:38 sfan5 clone it before it gets a dmca 15:39 gravgun did already :3 15:39 gravgun https://github.com/jumoog/GFX_Linux_DDK 15:39 * Yellowberry is researching on how to use music trackers 15:39 gravgun I informed GNU Project #powervr about it 15:40 gravgun And now 15:40 gravgun we wait 15:41 Yellowberry Calinou! Hi! 15:41 gravgun Hi Calinou 15:42 Yellowberry zlsa (~zlsa@static-205-157-147-198.ded.unwiredbb.net) has joined #minetest 15:43 Yellowberry hi 15:43 gravgun (Yellowberry: copypasta fail?) 15:43 Zeno` Calinou "Can we patch Minetest or Freeminer with their stuff then get a working build? If not, it is a violation." 15:43 Zeno` Show me where, please, in the LICENSE where that is a requirement 15:43 Yellowberry gravgun: totally intentional 15:44 Zeno` If you can't then stop, please, with the FUD 15:44 VanessaE hi all. 15:44 Yellowberry Hi VanessaE 15:47 sfan5 Zeno`: the license only says they need to provide the source 15:48 sfan5 You could totally get around that by not providing your custom build script 15:48 sfan5 (more or less get around 15:48 sfan5 ) 15:48 Zeno` sfan5, which they have done, which is why I'm asking Calinou to explain 15:51 Calinou hi 15:52 Calinou sfan5, they seem to provie full source, but outdated or such 15:52 Calinou and Zeno` voiced it in a way that means there are only patches available 15:52 Zeno` it doesn't matter if it's outdated 15:52 Calinou it does matter 15:52 Calinou the newer versions would violate the license 15:52 Zeno` no it doesn't 15:52 Calinou WTF 15:52 Zeno` what newer versions? 15:53 Calinou let's say we have Minetest 0.4.10 which is the base of Mobilecraft 0.4.10 – the source of that Mobilecraft is released 15:53 Calinou but then Minetest 0.4.11 is released 15:53 Calinou if Mobilecraft's latest version is still 0.4.10, that's fine 15:53 sfan5 we understand that 15:53 Calinou but if they update to 0.4.11, but don't release source, it becomes a violation again 15:53 Zeno` They are under no obligation to keep up with master 15:53 sfan5 is there actually a new version? 15:53 Calinou sfan5, not everyone apparently did 15:54 Calinou Zeno`, they must release source of every version they publish; the end 15:54 iqualfragile sfan5: https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutoFDO 15:54 Calinou they can keep their stuff outdated if they wish; what they can't do is make outdated free version, and up-to-date proprietary version 15:54 Zeno` and their latest publish version is... 0.4.10 15:54 Calinou public, yes 15:54 sfan5 iqualfragile: wrong person? 15:54 iqualfragile sfan5: no, you do some builds 15:55 sfan5 do you think I feel like re-compiling mingw? 15:55 iqualfragile sfan5: no, but can't you cross compile using gcc? 15:55 Zeno` where the hell is the "up-to-date proprietary version"? 15:55 sfan5 yes 15:55 iqualfragile sfan5: so this could be usefull as minetest is largely cpu bound 15:55 Calinou I was guarding against the argument “they published the source of one version, so it's fine” 15:55 sfan5 Calinou: in theory, LGPL always applied; in practice, nobody gives a shit about private stuff 15:56 sfan5 applies* 15:56 Calinou but here it's public 15:56 Calinou it's not like the Play Store is private 15:56 sfan5 where is the new version you are talking of? 15:56 sfan5 iqualfragile: how do I activate this? 15:56 Zeno` so you judge them guilty before they commit something wrong? 15:56 Zeno` That doesn't seem fair 15:56 iqualfragile sfan5: well, i think the website contains sufficient instructions 15:56 Calinou being hypothetical isn't bad 15:57 Calinou I'm sure this will happen some day 15:57 Zeno` it is when you're accusing people of being non-compliant 15:57 sfan5 iqualfragile: I disagree 15:57 Yellowberry http://keygenmusic.net/music/dvt/DVT-AdBlockPro2.2kg.7z 15:57 iqualfragile sfan5: where exactly are you stuck? 15:57 Zeno` anyway, I just wanted to clear that up 15:58 sfan5 iqualfragile: how do I do this? 15:58 iqualfragile sfan5: im gaming for a few minutes, we can talk about that afterwards 16:03 * Zeno` is sorry for being angry but will not apologise for defending people's rights to do what is permitted under the LGPL and GPL and the spirit of those licenses 16:05 * Yellowberry has such bad internet at his other computer that he can't even do a speedtest 16:05 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2jxqpg/calling_out_crappy_hardware_manufacturers_corsair/ 16:05 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes: 16:05 Calinou (see the poster) 16:05 iqualfragile sfan5: bascially 1st compile with -profile-generate 16:06 iqualfragile then with -fprofile-use 16:06 sfan5 iqualfragile: does gcc 4.8 have that flag? 16:06 iqualfragile inbetween run the code 16:06 iqualfragile yes, that feature is rather old 16:10 zlsa Calinou, what about phoronix? 16:11 gravgun zlsa: nothing really, it's just about Phoronix's... reputation 16:12 gravgun It's not THE reference for everything linux/graphics/... 16:12 kilbith Phoronix is the reference for linux benchmarking 16:12 gravgun They do good benchmarks tho 16:12 gravgun indeed 16:23 Yellowberry Asie! 16:23 asie Pinkberry! 16:23 gravgun Pink? 16:24 gravgun More like Yellow 16:24 PenguinDad Pinkieberry :P 16:26 Yellowberry oh snap 16:26 Yellowberry PenguinDad: I was actaully thinking of that one last night 16:27 Calinou hi PenguinDad :) 16:27 PenguinDad Hi Calinou 16:27 * sfan5 paws Asie 16:28 * Yellowberry slaps sfan5 16:28 Yellowberry get away! 16:28 Yellowberry don't eat me! 16:28 PenguinDad Yellowberry: one does not simply slap a cat 16:29 sfan5 ??? 16:29 * Yellowberry is scared of cats 16:29 * Yellowberry has reason to be, because he is a banana 16:29 iqualfragile hello child! 16:30 PenguinDad Yellowberry: I'm scared of tall faceless men in suits :P 16:30 Yellowberry PenguinDad: at least those can't eat me, because they have no face 16:31 Jordach sfan5, !cat https://i.imgur.com/s9tdEOi.jpg 16:32 PenguinDad Yellowberry: But they will take you and they will break you 16:32 * Yellowberry gets very scared of tall faceless men 16:32 sfan5 Jordach: 19<MinetestBot> 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03sfan5/minetestbot-modules: cats 1383affb3 http://git.io/jAuTaw (152014-10-22T18:32:22+02:00) 16:33 Yellowberry PenguinDad: do you mean to say they will peel me? 16:35 Yellowberry this kid never ceases to amaze me: 16:35 Yellowberry http://www.audiotool.com/user/djsolace1000/ 16:35 Yellowberry I can call him a kid cause he is about a month younger than me :P 16:36 Yellowberry ^ PenguinDad you may enjoy his music 16:40 Calinou I'm making a new Ubuntu build (will no longer be run-in-place) 16:40 PenguinDad Calinou: how about crouch in place? 16:43 Calinou it's been almost 1 month since last build ;) 16:43 Calinou will still bundle mapper, NodeBoxEditor, Carbone, More Blocks/Map Tools, some texture packs 16:43 Calinou all that in a 12 MB .tar.xz 16:43 PenguinDad Yellowberry: meh :/ 16:44 Yellowberry Meh? 17:00 Yellowberry I will be back at 3 my time 17:00 Yellowberry bye 17:04 Krock hi ppl 17:04 Calinou hi Krock 17:04 Calinou the new Ubuntu build is up 17:04 Krock \o/ .. wait.. why do I do that? 17:05 Calinou my topic got 170 views and 0 replies, I know 17:05 Krock Can't write a reply. :P 17:13 Krock Calinou, I think "It works on all 64-bit processors" would be easier to understand 17:14 celeron55 HERE'S A THING! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCgTNHndNCM https://github.com/celeron55/buildat/blob/master/games/digger/main/main.cpp https://github.com/celeron55/buildat/blob/master/games/digger/main/client_lua/init.lua 17:14 * VanessaE mumbles something about meshes: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10428 17:14 VanessaE here, have something useful ;) 17:14 Krock !title 17:14 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] Mesh slopes test [0.7][slope_test] - Minetest Forums 17:14 Krock \o/ 17:15 Krock celeron55, looks nice but the light "gets dark" too fast 17:15 Calinou can we use custom sun/moon textures inside of a game, without texture pack? 17:16 Krock Calinou, with a mod 17:16 Jordach celeron55, realtime lights 17:16 celeron55 Krock: lol i don't even care 17:16 Krock k. chief. 17:17 Calinou “Don't worry, Urho3D isn't a distro-packageable library due to its various configuration options.” 17:17 Calinou well… 17:17 Calinou is this using TCP, or TCP + UDP? 17:18 celeron55 it's as KISS as the concept can go (holy fuck it's large already) 17:18 celeron55 so, TCP-only so far 17:18 Calinou meh 17:19 Jordach celeron55, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PYos2gN1atzk.png 17:19 celeron55 how is that a big deal 17:19 Jordach you darn fucked up :3 17:19 celeron55 which package is that and how did you start it up 17:20 Jordach full 17:20 celeron55 you can't just click on the exe 17:20 celeron55 use the .bat 17:20 celeron55 it isn't user friendly at all for now; not a priority 17:22 Jordach killing a connected client kills the server 17:22 celeron55 yes the windows server is broken in that way 17:22 celeron55 go use a real OS, the windows builds are pretty much just a proof that it builds at all 17:23 celeron55 8) 17:24 Jordach i would but AMD 17:24 Jordach i bought the wrong chip manufacturer :3 17:24 celeron55 you really should buy a chip manufacturer 17:24 celeron55 and make them make linux compatible stuff 17:25 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7864&p=159421#p158820 17:25 Calinou whoa 17:25 Calinou finally object lighting, apparently 17:26 celeron55 but, anyway 17:27 celeron55 i'm looking for people who maybe might be bored with minetest and who can get their head around C++ and would like to spend a bit of time building some stuff on this thing 17:28 Krock wat? minetest is never boring. 17:28 kilbith buildat is a real competitor for MT ? 17:28 VanessaE if you're bored with minetest, play a different subgame. 17:29 celeron55 this isn't a direct competitor because thtis has quite different strengths and weaknesses 17:29 celeron55 thisS* 17:29 celeron55 this* 17:30 kilbith hmm, ok 17:32 celeron55 that being said, it probably could replace minetest quite competitively in the long run if people start working toward such 17:32 celeron55 it's capable of being a superset of everything MT can do and probably ever can do 17:33 jin_xi looks nice 17:34 celeron55 but it's very early in development for that goal (MT has 150klines of code most if which is actually useful; you just don't make that amount of stuff very fast) 17:35 Krock \o/ new record: compiled MT in just 00:09:09.59 1 minute faster than last time 17:37 Jordach celeron55, suddenly: some form of API translation 17:41 celeron55 implementing the MT API on buildat is certainly possible in the long run if someone wants to do that 17:41 celeron55 (a lot of work maybe, but that's to be expected) 17:42 Calinou wat? minetest is never boring. 17:42 Calinou +1 17:42 Krock :) 17:43 PenguinDad Krock: +10 17:43 celeron55 as you can see, MT doesn't even need a direct competitor; that's why buildat isn't one 17:43 celeron55 this is just the only place i know where anyone might get interested at all so this is where i will come looking for people :P 17:44 coagen celeron55: I"M A REAL PERSON 17:44 * Amaz is interested! 17:44 Amaz But doesn't know C++ 17:44 * coagen carasses his own fleshy skin 17:45 * Krock is not interested since that's linux stuff 17:46 coagen Linux stuff? 17:46 coagen what did I miss :| 17:46 * PenguinDad would be interested in Testraria :D 17:46 celeron55 you missed the link at the topic: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ 17:46 celeron55 8) 17:47 coagen celeron55: thx 17:47 celeron55 PenguinDad: what does that mean 17:47 shadowzone hello celeron55 17:48 Calinou making custom sun/moon textures 17:49 iqualfragile dear god activity 17:50 PenguinDad celeron55: a terraria-like based on LÖVE or somthing like that ;) 17:50 coagen celeron55: not a c++ guy, but I will entertain test builds on linux boxes, playing with it in general... might even report bugs if I feel like it 17:51 * coagen does more scripting that actual coding 17:51 celeron55 PenguinDad: making a terraria-like in buildat is not out of the question 8) 17:52 celeron55 it could even share some item framework or whatever stuff with other buildat games 17:53 Jordach PenguinDad, err 17:53 celeron55 (that's the spirit of buildat; it's like minetest 0.4 exploded at its roots) 17:54 Jordach PenguinDad, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8443 17:54 Jordach i did have a prototype somewhere 17:54 celeron55 i probably should make buildat's website served by buildat itself because buildat 17:55 Jordach yo dawg, i heard you liked buildat, so i put buildat in your buildat 17:55 * Jordach is top kek memer 17:56 coagen heh heh: U R HO 3D 17:56 coagen u r a ho! in 3d! 17:56 celeron55 urho3d is the stupidest name in the universe; it's made by a finnish guy though so it's understandable 17:57 celeron55 we're the best at inventing bad names 17:57 Jordach s/bad/untranslatable or difficult to pronounce in english/ 17:57 coagen Unity3D to Urho3D exporter? what? https://urho3d.github.io 17:57 coagen interesting 17:57 celeron55 i use "namespace magic = Urho3D" a lot in Buildat though 8D 17:58 Jordach celeron55, now that's how you should program apps 17:58 celeron55 coagen: the importers are for models and some other assets 17:59 coagen celeron55: cool stuff man, I keep thinking one of these day's I'll try to fool around with unity assets... they make it so easy from what I understand 18:00 celeron55 i sometimes think i should have built buildat on unity, but then again screw it, i'm too edgy for that 18:00 celeron55 and it isn't free software anyway 18:00 iqualfragile celeron55: python api plz 18:00 celeron55 iqualfragile: maek it 18:01 Amaz Python api would be awesome. 18:01 celeron55 iqualfragile: altough, actually don't, because the client is locked to lua 18:01 celeron55 it would be weird to program in python and lua 18:01 iqualfragile python can be sandboxed 18:01 iqualfragile if you use pypy 18:01 celeron55 yes but the client relies on urho3d's bindings 18:02 celeron55 and urho3d has bindings only for lua and angelscript, and of out of those only lua is flexible enough for this purpose 18:02 iqualfragile uh sounds not great 18:02 celeron55 i like lua 18:02 coagen celeron55: if you made it simple for folks to bring the code into unity... I'm quite certian there would be devs all over it 18:03 celeron55 coagen: uh, what do you mean? probably not possible 18:03 iqualfragile coagen: unity is not oss 18:03 coagen celeron55: I know its not free... and I don't like that either... but all the game devs around here use it. :| 18:03 coagen iqualfragile: I know that 18:03 coagen it is free in a sense 18:03 coagen actually 18:04 coagen you can get the free version 18:04 coagen but its not oss 18:04 coagen there was a game dev thing I went to last year here, even people with seemingly little time or experience had all kinds of weird games on display 18:04 coagen all composed in unity 18:05 celeron55 all of them were physics puzzle platformers? 8) 18:05 coagen no 18:05 celeron55 that's what unity games tend to be 18:05 Calinou i use "namespace magic = Urho3D" a lot in Buildat though 8D 18:05 Calinou why not namespace urho 18:05 Calinou or urho3d 18:05 coagen there was everything from a buddhist skyrim sort of thing to a relationship/kissing game 18:05 coagen and train, fighting, racing, and other weird games 18:06 coagen anway 18:06 celeron55 sounds like the gamedev scene there is quite competitive 18:06 coagen just saying man 18:06 coagen its crazy 18:06 Calinou it's cheap 18:06 coagen they have meetings every week and I'm on their mailing list 18:06 coagen used to go to the meetings... haven't been in a while, but the main guys there know me 18:07 PenguinDad "namespace HowDoesThisEvenWork = Urho3D" :P 18:07 coagen anyway, if it were easy to get into unity for these folks, I would have no choice but to mention it to them ;) 18:07 celeron55 unity is all C# as far as i know 18:07 coagen that said, I have no idea what that means 18:07 celeron55 and C# is compatible with pretty much only C# 18:07 coagen yes, but you can process other langs 18:08 coagen just have to start with c# then interpret 18:08 Jordach interpretted c anyone 18:09 coagen celeron55: http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/unity3d-and-c.186855/ third post 18:09 coagen forum.unity3d.com/threads/unity3d-and-c.186855/#post-1276991 18:09 celeron55 oh, so unity pro allows C++ plugins 18:10 Calinou Carbone textures now has sun/moon and custom halo 18:10 celeron55 unity is still windows-only though so i hate it 18:12 coagen celeron55: incorrect, runs on osx great 18:13 Calinou it is cross-platform 18:13 Calinou but you don't get to choose which platforms it runs on 8) 18:13 coagen celeron55: http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php/Running_Unity_on_Linux_through_Wine 18:13 coagen celeron55: but yes, it does not run natively on linux... which sucks :| 18:13 celeron55 but i get to write buildat to run on any platforms i choose 18:14 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/ac5cdddbbc49 18:14 coagen celeron55: most game dev's I know unfortunately use winblows 18:14 celeron55 the best thing about making things yourself is that you aren't locked to any silly limitations imposed by someone else 8) 18:14 celeron55 coagen: yes, obviously 18:15 Calinou it moves smoothly, as it's an image, no aliasing :) 18:16 coagen then again.... I wonder how many companies are terrified of ms now, with their mc clones... 18:16 Calinou we're not one 18:16 Calinou we don't use the same assets 18:17 coagen mt is not a company, its an oss project 18:17 coagen I do not think they are the same 18:17 celeron55 the law really only applies to commercial things when it comes to stuff like this 18:17 celeron55 unless you really copy assets and trademarks 18:18 PenguinDad Calinou: the sun and moon remind a bit of good morning craft :) 18:21 Calinou it isn't even a legal entity, coagen 18:22 coagen :\ 18:22 coagen Calinou: actually since you mentioned that 18:23 coagen celeron55: just curious if you had thought about what you would do if ms wanted to hire you to work on mc related stuff and cease all mt/buildat etc. 18:23 coagen celeron55: does mt need something like a "foundation" to preserve the freedom? 18:23 coagen heh 18:24 iqualfragile there were talks about putting minetest into a existing foundation a while back 18:24 celeron55 the only things i have control of regarding to MT is the main website, the domain and arguably the trademark 18:24 celeron55 so taking those out, in the worst case, would move people to freeminer or just make up a new name otherrwise and go on 18:24 celeron55 -r 18:25 celeron55 MT's current organization is pretty much unstoppable 18:25 celeron55 but on the other hand it isn't doing very much either 8) 18:25 Krock Calinou, 1st image looks interesting (see left side of highlighed tree trunk) 18:25 Calinou coagen, if that happens (very unlikely anyway), other contributors can work on it 18:26 Krock it seems to be wrong at the 1st view but correctly when looking agiain 18:26 coagen celeron55: cool, thanks for answering that 18:26 celeron55 and, i'm 100% sure microsoft isn't going to hire me 18:27 celeron55 not that i'd have asked, but they have plenty of developers in house already, if anything 18:27 coagen celeron55: they surely have noticed some of the community fleeing mc to go to mt 18:28 iqualfragile yeah, and they have noticed the dev speed of minetest :) 18:28 celeron55 the fleeing is negligible really 18:28 Calinou ^ 18:28 Calinou contrarily to what you think, companies don't care about movements in general 18:29 Calinou iqualfragile, which has been decreasing… 18:29 celeron55 it's very minor even compared to MT's userbase 18:29 coagen Calinou: they care about controling movements, for profit. 18:29 celeron55 take a look at google trends for example 18:29 iqualfragile Calinou: yeah, i feel like there is this authority hole, nobody feels like its his department 18:30 coagen hrm, people need a leader sometimes... or think they do :| 18:31 iqualfragile coagen: or clear policy 18:33 celeron55 well, for those who want a leader, i'm going to lead buildat for the foreseeable future, because i'm actually making it future-proof unlike minetest 18:33 celeron55 shameless plug 18:34 sfan5 future-proof? 18:34 shadowzone yeah explain future-proof 18:34 shadowzone I'm confused.. 18:34 Krock ^ 18:34 Calinou meh 18:34 coagen future-proof is proof that there is a future 18:34 Calinou future proof would use a modern rendering engine, good sound capabilities, network, etc 18:34 shadowzone oh, sounds interesting. 18:34 Calinou at the cost of running fast right now, probably 18:35 Calinou I don't believe in future-proofing much 18:35 coagen or future-proof is a future that is prooved to exist 18:35 celeron55 well it's just from some viewpoints that i personally consider important 18:35 coagen sorry, "future-proof" sounds like marketing, so I couldn't help myself 18:36 sfan5 "Don't worry, Urho3D isn't a distro-packageable library due to its various configuration options." 18:36 sfan5 :D 18:37 Calinou exactly against future-proof 18:37 Calinou as package managers aren't going away anytime soon 18:38 celeron55 you can make fun of me all you want, but i made the base of what you are using now too 18:38 celeron55 8) 18:39 shadowzone I am not gonna make fun of you. 18:39 shadowzone I only pick on oOchainLynxOo 18:40 coagen celeron55: damn right you did, and you deserve our thanks. thank you sir. 18:40 iqualfragile celeron55: yes, especially for that lovely network code :D socket handling looks wonderfull 18:41 iqualfragile thanks for the work, really, i enjoy this game/engine 18:41 coagen celeron55: I was ecstatic when I found the alpha builds back in 2010, and now 4 years later, its really amazing what has been acomplished 18:42 coagen celeron55: my kids play this, and my friends kids, etc 18:42 celeron55 the MT community is quite amazing considering the premise 18:43 shadowzone My siblings play this, friends and my dad sometimes. 18:43 Cylus What premise would that be? 18:44 kilbith we'll never grateful enough with c55 for all the dream he gave to us 18:44 coagen celeron55: you know the reason I found it, was because I was looking for any kind of mc clone that was not java based, terasology looked amazing, but I refuse to run java if I can avoid it 18:45 coagen celeron55: I had been trying to teach myself the lwjgl at the time... and block games were all the rage then.. 18:46 celeron55 well, minetest is my first ever program to use 3D 18:46 celeron55 at all 18:46 celeron55 ever 18:46 celeron55 it's ridiculous 18:47 coagen celeron55: have you looked at/tried terasology? I really liked the way it looked :| 18:47 sfan5 programmers are usually not good a graphics 18:47 sfan5 and (I think) shaders are kind of complicated 18:47 sfan5 maybe I just read the wrong docs on GLSL 18:48 Cylus Wow, your first 3D program is a massive success then! 18:48 coagen wow, just found this interesting post: mentions MT, https://www.reddit.com/r/Terasology/comments/2gi0qi/minecraftmojang_has_been_bought_by_microsoft_sell/ 18:49 PILZADAM sfan5, read chapter 1 and 2 of http://arcsynthesis.org/gltut/ 18:52 Krock I'm looking for a mod with some simple furnitures, like a wardrobe, chairs and a table. homedecor looks a bit heavy for that 18:52 Krock *only for that 18:53 yummy_ginger Krock, homedecore heavy???? no way !! its only like 20 pages in unified_inventory 18:53 Krock yeah. only. 18:53 Krock got 3 pages yet 18:53 VanessaE 20 pages, hah 18:54 kilbith 4 pages actually 18:54 yummy_ginger i have tried to get mrs VanessaE to do a lite ver but well ....... why not?? 18:54 * yummy_ginger pokes VanessaE 18:55 * pENGUINdAD meows at IQUALFRAGILE 18:55 shadowzone What is it with the all caps nicknames? 18:55 IQUALFRAGILE INTERNATIONAL CAPSLOCK DAY 18:55 VanessaE oh G*d no. 18:55 VanessaE not that 18:55 SHADOWZONE what? 18:56 IQUALFRAGILE VANESSAE: JUST A FEW MORE HOURS 18:56 * VanessaE ripped the caps-lock key off her keyboard ages ago 18:56 gravgun Caps Lock: the key that should not exist 18:56 IQUALFRAGILE MY KEYBOARD LAYOUT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE CAPSLOCK 18:56 SHADOWZONE VANESSAE THAT'S SAD 18:56 IQUALFRAGILE WELL, IT DOES, BUT IT USES THE CAPSLOCK KEY TO SWITH TO LAYER… 3 I THINK 18:57 pENGUINdAD vANESSAe: i'M ONLY INVERTED CASE :p 18:58 KROCK weee 18:58 IQUALFRAGILE pENGUINdAD: WELL, SOME KEYBOARD LAYOUTS DO THAT 18:58 KROCK I MEAN 'WEEEE' 18:58 IQUALFRAGILE KROCK: BETTER! 18:58 pENGUINdAD iqualfragile: i DIDN'T KNOW THAT 18:58 KROCK ^^ 18:59 IQUALFRAGILE WELL, MINE DOES 18:59 KROCK /\ /\ 19:03 rubenwardy Hi all! 19:03 pENGUINdAD hI RUBENWARDY! 19:03 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.github.io/ 19:04 IQUALFRAGILE HELLO RUBENWARDY! 19:05 rubenwardy WHAT'S WITH ALL THE SHOUTING? 19:05 IQUALFRAGILE ITS CAPSLOCK DAY 19:05 pENGUINdAD iNTERNATIONAL CAPSLOCK DAY 19:05 IQUALFRAGILE YES! INTERNATIONAL! 19:06 MinetestBot 02[git] 04srifqi -> 03minetest/minetest: Add Indonesian Language 13171bbd7 http://git.io/EDdIRA (152014-10-22T21:05:14+02:00) 19:06 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui914 -> 03minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Japanese) 1331a8a80 http://git.io/SUxHMw (152014-10-22T21:05:14+02:00) 19:06 MinetestBot 02[git] 04davexunit -> 03minetest/minetest: Search for subgames using $MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH. 13fd5eaae http://git.io/sVuf8g (152014-10-22T21:05:14+02:00) 19:06 IQUALFRAGILE GOOD! ACTIVITY! 19:06 GRAVGUN OKAY I WANNA BE PART OF THE PARTY 19:06 coagen SRSLY 19:06 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: WELCOME TO THE PARTY 19:06 coagen i HAD NO 19:06 GRAVGUN YAY 19:06 coagen IDEA 19:06 IQUALFRAGILE TAKE SOME LEMONS! 19:06 coagen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caps_lock 19:06 GRAVGUN BTW I USE SHIFT NOT CAPS LOCK 19:07 GRAVGUN SO ITS JUST CAPS DAY 19:07 Cylus i'LL BRING THE CHIPS AND SALSA. 19:08 pENGUINdAD i'LL BRING THE MOUNTAIN DEW :p 19:08 GRAVGUN i'LL BRING BUCKETS OF CAPS LOCK KEYS 19:09 * pENGUINdAD HUGS Cylus FOR BEING INVERTED CASE 19:09 sfan5 WUB WUB WUB 19:09 IQUALFRAGILE RUBENWARDY HAS TOO SMALL EARS 19:10 sfan5 I HAVE EARS, PET ME! 19:10 GRAVGUN KEEP MERGIN' SFAN5 19:10 GRAVGUN WE HAVE TO SHOUT 19:10 GRAVGUN YER EARS MIGHT BLOW 19:10 cYLUS pENGUINdAD: i'M USING CAPS LOCK. oN lINUX AND wINDOS, THAT INVERTS THE CASE. nOT ON A mAC THOUGH. 19:10 * pENGUINdAD ROFLS 19:10 * gloop PETS SFAN% 19:11 pENGUINdAD sfan5: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/fd5eaae2babb322f8a3e2acab55a12e218814c8e has indentation issues 19:12 sfan5 pENGUINdAD: you could have said that before the merge 19:12 GRAVGUN OH WAIT 19:13 GRAVGUN MINETEST DOC IS IN TROFF 19:13 GRAVGUN WHO USES TROFF TODAY 19:13 pENGUINdAD GRAVGUN: MAN PAGES i THINK 19:13 cYLUS wHAT IS "TROFF"? 19:13 GRAVGUN A MANUAL PAGE FORMAT 19:13 Calinou programmers are usually not good a graphics 19:13 Calinou artists don't code shaders usually 19:13 GRAVGUN "GOOD A GRAPHICS" 19:14 GRAVGUN ENGLISH 19:14 Calinou hi rub 19:14 Calinou oops, he is gone 19:14 Calinou I was looking at the log 19:14 Calinou IDEA 19:14 Calinou IntelliJ. 19:15 pENGUINdAD iNTERESTING idea :d 19:15 cYLUS i NEVER COULD GET iNTELIj SET UP WHEN i TRIED. iT KEPT HAVING jAVA ERRORS. 19:15 pENGUINdAD ALSO WTF IS GOING ON WITH sOUNDcLOUD? 19:15 GRAVGUN cYLUS: SAME 19:16 sfan5 pENGUINdAD: do you even status.soundcloud.com 19:16 sfan5 Calinou: thats not what i said 19:16 MinetestBot 02[git] 04maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix broken plantlike drawtype. 137e34621 http://git.io/wD1X5Q (152014-10-22T21:15:31+02:00) 19:16 GRAVGUN cYLUS: THIS IDE WONT LET ME USE OPENJDK 19:16 GRAVGUN WOO FINALLY 19:16 cYLUS sOUNDcLOUD IS A PAIN FOR ME ALL THE TIME, SO i PRETTY MUCH STAY AWAY FROM THAT PLACE. 19:16 pENGUINdAD sfan5: nothing important there it seems :/ 19:17 IQUALFRAGILE cYLUS: YOUTUBE-DL FTW! 19:17 cYLUS GRAVGUN: iNTELIj WON'T? 19:17 GRAVGUN cYLUS: I TRIED IT COMPLAINED EVERYTIME 19:17 IQUALFRAGILE ALSO: DELETE FLASHPLAYER11.EXE 19:17 cYLUS GRAVGUN: mAYBE THAT'S WHY i CAN'T MAKE IT WORK THEN. i'M USING oPENjdk. 19:18 cYLUS i FINALLY GOT eCLIPSE TO WORK THOUGH, SO i DON'T NEED iNTELIj ANY MORE. 19:18 IQUALFRAGILE WHAT DO YOU NEED JAVA FOR? 19:18 GRAVGUN cYLUS: ITS FOR ORACLE (IE B*TCHES) LOVERS ONLY 19:18 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: ANDROID MAYBE 19:19 pENGUINdAD pRAISE tHE oRACLE :p 19:19 cYLUS GRAVGUN: uGH, iNTERNET eXPLORER. tHE BANE OF wEB DEVELOPERS EVERYWHERE. 19:19 Jordach da rage is reel 19:19 cYLUS IQUALFRAGILE: i'M TRYING TO GET STARTED IN aNDROID DEVELOPMENT. 19:19 IQUALFRAGILE DON'T ITS NOT FREE! 19:19 GRAVGUN cYLUS: NO NOT IE INTERNET EXPLHORROR, I MEANT I.E. AS IN "ID EST" 19:20 cYLUS IQUALFRAGILE: cORRECTION: rEPLICANT DEVELOPMENT. 19:20 IQUALFRAGILE GOOD 19:20 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: APACHE LICENSE MAKES ME SAD 19:20 GRAVGUN TOO PERMISSIVE FOR PPL TO MAKE EVERYTHING CLOSED 19:20 cYLUS IQUALFRAGILE: mOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT i MEAN WHEN i SAY "rEPLICANT THOUGH". 19:20 pENGUINdAD GRAVGUN: aPACHES USE LICENCES? 19:21 cYLUS GRAVGUN: wHAT IS "ID EST"? 19:21 cYLUS *"rEPLICANT" THOUGH 19:21 GRAVGUN pENGUINdAD: NO, ANDROID USES THE "APACHE LICENSE". GOOGLE IT 19:21 pENGUINdAD GRAVGUN: i KNOW THAT 19:22 GRAVGUN cYLUS: "ID EST" IS LATIN, WRITTEN SHORTHAND IN ENGLISH AS "I.E." WHICH MEANS "THAT IS" 19:22 cYLUS tHE aNDROID BASE DOES, BUT aNDROID TYPICALLY COMES BLOATED WITH PROPRIETARY gOOGLE JUNK AS WELL. 19:22 cYLUS GRAVGUN: aH, GOT IT. 19:22 GRAVGUN cYLUS: NOT ONLY GOOGLE JUNK 19:22 cYLUS aLSO CARRIER JUNK. 19:22 GRAVGUN ALSO FREQUENTLY WITH POWERVR CRAPPY DRIVERS 19:22 cYLUS aND oem JUNK. 19:22 GRAVGUN AND YE 19:22 GRAVGUN CARRIER 19:23 GRAVGUN SADLY THE ONLY OPEN BASEBAND DRIVER IS oSMOCOMbb 19:23 GRAVGUN WHICH SUPPORTS SOME OLD PHONES 19:23 GRAVGUN DATS ALL 19:24 GRAVGUN SO I THOUGHT I MIGHT GIVE A SHOT AT jOLLA PHONES AND os 19:24 GRAVGUN BUT PHONE COSTS WAY TOO MUCH FOR WHAT IT IS 19:24 Calinou GRAVGUN: uGH, iNTERNET eXPLORER. tHE BANE OF wEB DEVELOPERS EVERYWHERE. 19:24 Calinou IE10 and IE11 aren't that bad 19:24 Calinou support-wise 19:24 GRAVGUN YES THEY ARE 19:24 Calinou same goes for Java performance 19:24 GRAVGUN STILL NO FULL CSS3D SUPPORT 19:24 Calinou (try not to Javhate) 19:25 GRAVGUN i HAVE NO HATE FOR JAVA 19:25 cYLUS Calinou: i HEAR VERSION TEN *finally* SUPPORTS BASIC xhtml RENDERING. 19:25 GRAVGUN JUST TOWARD oRACLE 19:26 pENGUINdAD hOW CAN ONE HATE THE oRACLE? :( 19:26 ShadowNinja BTW, you can participate in CapsLock day with lowercase letters, just hold shift a lot. :-P 19:27 GRAVGUN ShadowNinja: it's disturbing to type with shift reversed 19:27 GRAVGUN WAIT A SEC ILL SET MY META KEY TO BE A SHIFT TOGGLE 19:27 ShadowNinja kilbith: Your ladder texture seems to have vertical lines on the rungs now. Can you break those up? 19:28 kilbith ShadowNinja: i'll add more noise on them later 19:28 GRAVGUN BTW DEVS, IS NODEMESHES ANIMATION PLANNED? 19:29 pENGUINdAD GRAVGUN: RealBadAngel WILL BE WORKING ON IT SOON 19:29 GRAVGUN COOL 19:29 GRAVGUN BUT FOR NOW HE HAS SOME MEMORY LEAKS TO FIX ISNT IT? 19:29 pENGUINdAD bUT DON'T TELL ME THAT i SHOULD DEFINE SOON :p 19:30 GRAVGUN SPOOOOOOON 19:30 kilbith ShadowNinja: these vertical "lines" are so shocking ? 19:30 pENGUINdAD afaik THEY'RE ALREADY FIXED 19:30 ShadowNinja kilbith: They're very noticable to me. 19:31 shadowzone when is caps day done? 19:31 kilbith ShadowNinja: compared to the current ladder, it's quite minor... 19:32 IQUALFRAGILE SHADOWZONE: GERMANY IS OUT OF IT IN ABOUT 2:30 19:32 pENGUINdAD shadowzone: IN ABOUT 2 HOURS AND 30 MINUTES IN MY TIMEZONE 19:32 shadowzone \o/ 19:32 GRAVGUN SAME FOR ME 19:32 shadowzone and 19:32 GRAVGUN IN 2:30 19:33 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: WHERE YOU FROM? 19:33 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: FRANCE 19:33 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: OH DEAR GOD 19:33 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: FRANCE 19:33 GRAVGUN OOPS 19:33 IQUALFRAGILE YES, READ THAT 19:34 GRAVGUN UP-ENTER DOES NOT PLAY GOOD 19:34 IQUALFRAGILE WAS STUPID OF ME TO ASK 19:34 GRAVGUN SO WHAT "DEAR GOD" 19:34 GRAVGUN YOU COULD WHOIS ME 19:34 pENGUINdAD IQUALFRAGILE: OH MON DIEU :p 19:34 IQUALFRAGILE YOU ARE IN THE -FR CHANNEL SO SHOULD NOT HAVE ASKED 19:34 ShadowNinja kilbith: Actually the current ladder looks (a litte bit) better in that respect. 19:34 IQUALFRAGILE WB SHADOWZONE 19:34 pENGUINdAD IQUALFRAGILE: GET IN MY VAN! Xd 19:35 ShadowNinja kilbith: The 6th and 7th columns have the most noticable line. 19:35 ShadowNinja (pixel columns) 19:35 ShadowNinja 8th and 9th are next. 19:35 IQUALFRAGILE pENGUINdAD: NO, SHADOWZONE HAS TO GET INTO THE VAN 19:35 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: WHERE IS THE VAN? 19:36 IQUALFRAGILE ITS IN BY GARAGE 19:36 shadowzone I ain't gettin' in no van. 19:36 shadowzone without grabbing some beer 19:36 shadowzone XD 19:36 GRAVGUN FREE AS IN FREE BEER WHATSMORE 19:36 GRAVGUN OH ALSO, IS SOME KIND OF CONNECTED TEXTURES SUPPORT PLANNED? 19:37 kilbith ShadowNinja: each pixel have a // color, i don't really understand :/ 19:37 ShadowNinja ~topic add cAPSlOCK DAY! 19:37 GRAVGUN HUHU OFFICIAL cAPSlOCK DAY ANNOUNCEMENT 19:37 ShadowNinja kilbith: One moment... 19:38 shadowzone lol 19:38 IQUALFRAGILE sHADOWZONE: THERE WILL BE BEER IN THE VAN 19:38 sHADOWZONE Good 19:39 sHADOWZONE tHERE BETTER BE 19:39 IQUALFRAGILE BUT YOU WON'T GET ANY 19:39 cYLUS ShadowNinja: cAN ShadowBot ALSO REMOVE TOPICS, OR ONLY APPEND THEM? 19:39 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE, WILL I GET SOME? 19:39 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: DEPENDS ON AGE 19:40 IQUALFRAGILE http://weknowmemes.com/2012/03/welcome-to-4chan/ 19:40 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: AH DARN, GETTING 18 ON JANUARY 19:40 ShadowNinja cYLUS: ,,(list topic) 19:40 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: add, change, default, fit, get, insert, list, lock, redo, remove, reorder, replace, restore, save, separator, set, shuffle, swap, topic, undo, and unlock 19:40 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: DOES NOT MATTER, VAN IS IN GERMANY 19:40 IQUALFRAGILE 16 --> BEER TIME! 19:40 cYLUS ShadowNinja: nICE! 19:40 sHADOWZONE yAY 19:41 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: OH I FORGOT GERMANS ARE BEER DRINKERS 19:41 cYLUS i HOPE THE BEER ISN'T MANDITORY. iT WILL BE 16 IN THREE HOURS, BUT i'M NOT A DRINKER. 19:42 IQUALFRAGILE cYLUS: BEER IS NOT MANDATORY 19:42 IQUALFRAGILE YOU CAN ALSO JUST INSTANTLY INGEST THE ETHER 19:42 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: HOW FUNNY, MY PARENTS TALKED ABOUT GOING IN GERMANY SOME DAY TO SEE WHAT OKTOBERFEST IS LIKE RECENTLY 19:42 IQUALFRAGILE OKTOBERFEST SUCKS 19:42 ShadowNinja kilbith: I see lines here: http://i.imgur.com/xbv90yp.png 19:42 * ElectronLibre IS WONDERING WHY ALL THESE LETTERS ARE AS BIG AS THEY ARE. That's horrible for our eyes... 19:42 cYLUS IQUALFRAGILE: "ETHER"? 19:42 IQUALFRAGILE IM FROM BAVARIA SO YOU CAN TRUST ME ON THAT ONE 19:43 IQUALFRAGILE ELECTRONLIBRE: LOOK AT THE TOPIC 19:44 kilbith ShadowNinja: ok I see, but you must look very attentively to notice that 19:44 IQUALFRAGILE eLCTRONlIBRE: THATS THE SPIRIT! 19:44 pENGUINdAD IQUALFRAGILE: LAGFEST IS WORSE 19:45 GRAVGUN OH LOOK 19:45 kilbith ShadowNinja: I'll add some contrasted pixels then 19:45 ShadowNinja kilbith: For me it's very obvious, but I guess it depends on the person. 19:45 GRAVGUN PEOPLE ARE SCARED AND LEAVING BECAUSE CAPS 19:46 celeron55 THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO A SHOP TO BUY A KEYBOARD WITH A CAPSLOCK TO REPLACE THEIR MISFEATURED ONE 19:46 IQUALFRAGILE cYLUS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethyl_ether ETHER! 19:47 GRAVGUN ^o^ 19:47 IQUALFRAGILE EXACTLY! 19:47 GRAVGUN BEST MOLECULE ETHER 19:47 sHADOWZONE https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/caps-lock-day/ 19:48 eLCTRONlIBRE I'm ok with changing my nickname but using capslocks is too ugly x).. hO AND YOU KNOW WHAT, iT4S cAPSlOCK DAY, SO I USE cAPSlOCK... 19:49 pENGUINdAD eLCTRONlIBRE: iT ISN'T UGLY! 19:49 eLCTRONlIBRE tO ME IT4S HORRIBLE TO READ X).. 19:49 IQUALFRAGILE INVERTED CASE IS HORRIBLE 19:49 IQUALFRAGILE CAPSLOCK IS QUITE OK 19:50 Calinou capslock is worse than all-smalls for reading 19:50 * eLCTRONlIBRE agrees. 19:50 GRAVGUN Calinou: that's why I'd prefer having an alphabet that does not have caps/smalls variations 19:51 Calinou that's be insane 19:53 gravgun o.o QUASSEL SEGFAULTED 19:53 GRAVGUN sᴍᴀʟʟᴄᴀᴘs ᴀʀᴇ ғɪɴᴇ ᴛᴏᴏ 19:53 PenguinDad Boss Mode deactivated! 19:53 OldCoder Caps Lock is Cruise Control for Cool :P 19:53 eLCTRONlIBRE Everything is possible GRAVGUN (except minetest to be bought by Microsoft) x)... 19:54 OldCoder Google will buy MT instead :P 19:54 IQUALFRAGILE OldCoder: THATS MY MAN! 19:54 GRAVGUN eLCTRONlIBRE: HEH 2.5 BILLION IN MY POCKET 19:54 Calinou PenguinDad, pony mode activated! 19:54 OldCoder eLCTRONlIBRE, Everything is possible... except for skiing through a revolving door 19:54 GRAVGUN OldCoder: WAT? 19:54 sHADOWZONE google is gonna buy minetest? 19:54 GRAVGUN sHADOWZONE: PROBABLY NOT 19:55 sHADOWZONE good 19:55 GRAVGUN HOW DOES ONE EVEN BUY AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT? 19:55 Amaz Go to the owner with a lot of cash? 19:55 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: YOU FIRST NEED A LOT OF MAGNETS 19:55 DogePony GRAVGUN: I have no idea 19:55 IQUALFRAGILE BIG STRONG MAGNETS 19:55 IQUALFRAGILE THEN YOU HUNT DOWN EVERYBODY THAT HAS A COPY OF THE SOURCE 19:55 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: HDD HEAD MAGNETS? 19:55 IQUALFRAGILE AND EREASE THEM 19:55 IQUALFRAGILE USING THE MAGNETS 19:55 OldCoder Caps Lock make kittens hiss 19:55 GRAVGUN SSD BITCHES 19:56 GRAVGUN DOESNT EVEN CARE ABOUT MAGNETS :p 19:56 IQUALFRAGILE THEN YOU GIVE EVERYBODY THAT EVER CONTRIBUTED CODE TO THE PROJECT LARGE SUMS OF MONEY TO BUY IT 19:56 OldCoder No, it won't work like that, I'm afraid 19:56 Calinou there'd be always someone refusing 19:56 OldCoder Project is too unstructured. But some things may be possible. 19:56 Calinou see marktraceur and license change in June 2012 19:57 Calinou then you need to rewrite code 19:57 GRAVGUN OldCoder: It won't. (L)GPL already makes us release our work to everybody 19:57 OldCoder Part of my point 19:57 Calinou buildat is permissively licensed 8) 19:57 Calinou (cough cough) 19:57 GRAVGUN oh noes 19:57 GRAVGUN OH NOES 19:57 OldCoder However, additionally structure can be added 19:57 OldCoder * additional 19:57 GRAVGUN While I'm not against permissive licenses 19:57 GRAVGUN I'm not OK with them 19:58 XACK :D 19:58 Calinou to me, they're problematic (bad choices) on large “end product” projects 19:58 Calinou hi XACK 19:59 IQUALFRAGILE ShadowNinja: WHT IF WRONG WITH YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION? 19:59 IQUALFRAGILE YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN JUST /NICK SHADOWZONE? 19:59 Calinou XACK, https://mediacru.sh/ac5cdddbbc49 19:59 XACK hi Calinou :D 19:59 Calinou textured sun/moon, selection box 19:59 Calinou roon sun/moon like in Minecraft Beta 1.9pre4 19:59 Calinou (it lasted so short) 20:00 Calinou small moon/sun (realistic-ish sizes for once) 20:04 GRAVGUN ANYBODY HERE ALREADY PLAYED iNFINIMINER? 20:05 VanessaE Calinou: you figured it out eh? 20:05 VanessaE looks good 20:07 DogePony GRAVGUN: I didn't play infiniminer 20:07 VanessaE GRAVGUN: never played it. 20:07 VanessaE or MC for that mattr. 20:07 VanessaE +e 20:08 GRAVGUN DogePony, VanessaE: oh :( Actually I'm doing a clone in C++ 20:08 GRAVGUN Because .NET sucks 20:09 DogePony Clone technology! D: 20:10 GRAVGUN Huh 20:11 GRAVGUN But I'm having problems with my network layer :( 20:15 Calinou water_wave_height = 4.0 20:15 Calinou water_wave_length = 4.0 20:15 Calinou water_wave_speed = 256.0 20:15 Calinou bhahahaha 20:16 Calinou set this, enable shaders and waving water 20:16 Calinou trippy 20:16 Calinou works on lava too 20:16 cYLUS iF i RECALL, iNFINIMINER WAS wiNDOWS-ONLY WHENi TRIED TO TRY IT, SO i DIDN'T END UP GETTING TO PLAY. 20:17 Calinou water_wave_height = 1.0 20:17 Calinou water_wave_length = 8.0 20:17 Calinou water_wave_speed = 16.0 20:17 Calinou good, sane settings 20:20 eLCTRONlIBRE Calinou, very strange settings for waving water shader x).. 20:20 IQUALFRAGILE ShadowNinja: WHY DID YOU CALL YOURSELF CHICKEN? 20:21 shadowzone Me? 20:21 IQUALFRAGILE OH, SORRY ShadowNinja TABFAIL 20:22 IQUALFRAGILE YES YOU CHILD 20:23 coagen HAY 20:23 DogePony coagen: STRAW 20:23 coagen I CAN HAS COMMAND TO REVIVE PLAERS? 20:23 coagen THEY DED 20:24 VanessaE coagen: /shutdown :) 20:24 coagen RESPAWN IMPLACE? 20:24 coagen VanessaE: rm -rf / --no-preserve-root 20:24 VanessaE heh 20:24 coagen :P 20:25 PennartLoettring yAY FOR CAPSLOCK DAY 20:25 coagen YAY! 20:25 coagen INTERNATIONAL COCKSLAPDAY! 20:26 coagen INTERNATIONAL COCKSLAP DAY! 20:26 coagen err 20:26 coagen INTERNATIONAL CAPSLOCK DAY! 20:26 IQUALFRAGILE coagen: YOU WILL GET THERE 20:27 * coagen COCK SLAPS IQUALFRAGILE 20:27 coagen YOU FIRST! :d 20:27 IQUALFRAGILE REQUESTING BAN 20:27 coagen :| 20:27 IQUALFRAGILE DIRTY WORDS WERE USED 20:27 IQUALFRAGILE AND NOT BY ME! 20:27 IQUALFRAGILE WHAT AN INSULT 20:28 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: http://www.reddit.com/user/PennartLoettring is that you? 20:28 PennartLoettring Bingo 20:28 coagen BLAME MY CO-WORKERS, WHEN i TOLD THEM IT WAS CAPSLOCKDAY, THEY SAID THEY THOUGHT THEY HEARD "COCKSLAP DAY" 20:28 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: JUST SAW YER NAME ON /R/LINUXCIRCLEJERK 20:28 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: eRMAGHERD 20:28 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: iLLERMINERTI 20:29 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: ERCH IS DE BEST 20:29 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: and yes, I 20:29 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: and yes, I'm the owner of http://reddit.com/r/Poettrix 20:29 PennartLoettring and http://github.com/PennartLoettring/Poettrix 20:29 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: OH YEA DAT SUBREDDIT WHERE I UPLENNARTED EVERYTHING 20:29 PennartLoettring and I'm an alt account of Zatherz ;D 20:29 PennartLoettring AKA ThatZatherz 20:30 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: you gave me an idea 20:30 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: WHICH? 20:30 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: ARE YOU WORKING IN THE PORN INDUSTRY? 20:30 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: I will change the images of the upvote arrows to Lennart's face 20:30 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: EH NOPE 20:30 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: AND HIDE THE DOWNVOTE BUTTON 20:30 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: GOTTA UPVOTE PENNART LOETTRING 20:30 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: NO DOWNLENNARTS TO THE LEFT? 20:30 PennartLoettring nO 20:31 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: ILL USE SYSTEMD-DOWNLENNARTD TO DO IT THEN 20:31 coagen DOWNVOTE ICON SHOULD BE THE Gnu 20:31 PennartLoettring DON'T WORRY 20:31 PennartLoettring SYSTEMD-REDDITD IS IN DEVELOPMENT 20:31 GRAVGUN HOW ADVANCED IS SYSTEMD-INTERNETD? 20:31 coagen DOWNVOTE = https://www.gnu.org/graphics/gerwinski-gnu-head.png 20:31 coagen AMIRITE? 20:32 PennartLoettring IT STARTS 3 SECONDS FASTER 20:32 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: WTF SHOULD THAT DO? 20:32 cYLUS "aMERITE" SOUNDS LIKE A MINERAL. 20:32 IQUALFRAGILE SYSTEMD ALREADY DOES WHAT INETD DID 20:32 GRAVGUN EG? 20:32 PennartLoettring ALSO SYSTEMD-SEXD IS CUMMING IN THE NEXT RELEASE 20:32 GRAVGUN OH YEEEESSSSS 20:32 GRAVGUN PENNART YOU GOD 20:32 PennartLoettring ALSO 20:33 PennartLoettring SYSTEMD-SHELLD 20:33 IQUALFRAGILE SYSTEMD SHELDON? 20:33 GRAVGUN BUT WILL YOU MAKE SYSTEMD-CONDOMD NON-OPTIONAL? 20:33 PennartLoettring THE NEW {B,Z,F,K,C,TC}SH KILLER 20:33 PennartLoettring but actually 20:33 PennartLoettring I'm really developing shelld 20:33 GRAVGUN rly? 20:33 PennartLoettring yes 20:33 GRAVGUN What will it do? 20:33 PennartLoettring it will be the worst shell ever 20:33 PennartLoettring where there are no commands 20:33 PennartLoettring only daemons you start 20:34 PennartLoettring "systemctl start echod $(systemctl start textd "HAI WURLD")" 20:34 PennartLoettring IT WILL BE 20:34 PennartLoettring THE STANDARD SHELL 20:34 PennartLoettring IN DA OS FOR DA REAL MANZ 20:34 coagen THE ONLY SHELL 20:34 GRAVGUN "systemctl start ircd $(systemctl start ircd-sendd "OH HAI")" 20:34 PennartLoettring DA POETTRIX P.0377r1-NG 20:35 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: but really, systemd is a PITA; I tried to make a small Arch system on my SSD just to see how fast it boots 20:35 GRAVGUN Darn, even xf86-input-evdev depends on systemDick 20:36 coagen GRAVGUN: MANJARO+OPENRC FTW YO, GOT IT SET UP ON 2 MACHINES SO FAR, I'M LUVIN IT 20:36 PennartLoettring WUT R U SAYIN PLEB? 20:36 PennartLoettring ARCH + INITSCRIPTS FOREVAH 20:36 GRAVGUN coagen: WILL LOOK INTO OPENRC SOON 20:36 coagen GRAVGUN: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=7jkrovos7pkpg9hmjnis2ccus5&topic=16177.0 20:36 IQUALFRAGILE NO PROBLEM WITH SYSTEMD HERE 20:36 IQUALFRAGILE I LIKE IT 20:36 coagen GRAVGUN: DAOWNLODD ISO NAO!!! 20:36 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: WHAT DO YOU THINK I WROTE AS INIT? 20:36 IQUALFRAGILE IT DOES WHAT I WANT IT TO DO 20:36 PennartLoettring IQUALFRAGILE: I LIKE IT TOO 20:37 PennartLoettring BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER 20:37 PennartLoettring I'M PENNART LOETTRING 20:37 PennartLoettring I KNOW BETTA 20:37 IQUALFRAGILE GOTTA HATE LENNART? 20:37 PennartLoettring *BETTAH 20:37 PennartLoettring btw 20:37 PennartLoettring you can actually get initscripts on Arch back 20:37 GRAVGUN FUCK DAT ILL CREATE MY OWN lfs SYSTEM 20:37 coagen PENNART IS THE ONE, LIKE NEO IN THE MATRIX 20:37 coagen HE CAN SEE THE CODE 20:37 PennartLoettring "initscripts-fork", an up-to-date initscripts fork 20:37 coagen SHOW US THE WAY 20:37 GRAVGUN NEO TEH MARTIX HAZ U 20:37 IQUALFRAGILE OR YOU COULD JUST INIT=/USR/BIN/EMACS 20:38 PennartLoettring U PLEB 20:38 coagen SHOW US THE WAY TO ZION PENNART 20:38 GRAVGUN EMACS IS A MORE COMPLETE ENVIRONMENT THAN KDE SO THATS FINE 20:38 PennartLoettring I SYMLINK THE LINUX KERNEL TO EMACS PLEB 20:38 coagen I saved people time and symlinked everything to 20:38 PennartLoettring U KNO NOTHIN 20:38 coagen systemctl poweroff Because if they're using systemd, life is already 20:39 coagen forfeit 20:39 PennartLoettring would be better as: 20:39 PennartLoettring I saved people time 20:39 PennartLoettring and symlinked everything to systemctl poweroff 20:39 PennartLoettring Because if they're using systemd, life is already forfeit 20:39 coagen THX, SRRY FORFATTING 20:39 GRAVGUN SYSTEMD-POWEROFFD 20:40 PennartLoettring SYSTEMD-SYSTEMDD 20:40 PennartLoettring WANT *MORE* CONTROL OVER SYSTEMD? 20:40 PennartLoettring NO PROBLEM! 20:40 PennartLoettring JUST GET THE FRESH SYSTEM DAEMON DAEMON FOR THE SYSTEM DAEMON 20:40 IQUALFRAGILE PennartLoettring: I NEED SYSTEMD-MINETESTD 20:40 GRAVGUN IQUALFRAGILE: DONT WORRY ILL WRITE IT 20:41 IQUALFRAGILE GRAVGUN: HAVE FUN SUPPORTING SOCKET ACTIVATION :d 20:41 GRAVGUN lol 20:41 GRAVGUN Who needs sockets when you have named pipes? 20:41 GRAVGUN (pipes perf is actually > sockets perf) 20:42 PennartLoettring FSCK U PLEB WITH YOUR WINDOZE NAMED PIPE SHIT 20:42 PennartLoettring REAL MEN USE FIFOs 20:42 GRAVGUN AND WHAT ARE PIPES? 20:42 PennartLoettring ON A MULTICS MACHINE 20:42 GRAVGUN FIFOs 20:42 PennartLoettring I MEAN THE NAME 20:42 PennartLoettring FSCK YOUR NAMED PIPE MICROSOFT BULLSHIT 20:42 PennartLoettring REAL MEN CALL IT FIFOs 20:42 GRAVGUN OKAY OKAY 20:43 GRAVGUN ILL CALL THEM /VAR/RUN PIPES 20:43 PennartLoettring lol 20:43 PennartLoettring WHAT LANGUAGE IS DAT SHIT? 20:43 GRAVGUN LUA 20:43 PennartLoettring JAVASHIT? 20:43 PennartLoettring LUASHIT? 20:44 GRAVGUN PENNART, PREFER WHAT 20:44 coagen PennartLoettring: cAN PIPE DA OUTPUT OF SVCHOST.EXE TO SYSTEMD-LOGIND? 20:44 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: BRAINFUCK 20:44 PennartLoettring coagen: FSCK YOUR .EXE FILEZ 20:44 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: I HOPE YER HAPPY SYSTEMD IS BECOMING LINUXS SVCHOST 20:44 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: IF IT'S COMPATIBLR 20:44 PennartLoettring *COMPATIBLE 20:44 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: SUBMIT AN ISSUE ASAP 20:44 GRAVGUN SYSTEMD: REQUIRES WINELIB NOW 20:45 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: lol 20:45 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: SYSTEMD, CURRENTLY ONLY A WINE PORT 20:45 GRAVGUN SYSTEMD-WINED 20:45 GRAVGUN MANDATORY FOR RUNNING SYSTEMD 20:45 PennartLoettring BUT BUT 20:45 PennartLoettring YOU NEED SYSTEMD TO BE ALREADY RUNNING 20:46 PennartLoettring YOU NEED SYSTEMD FOR SYSTEMD-WINED 20:46 PennartLoettring AND SYSTEMD-WINED FOR SYSTEMD 20:46 PennartLoettring FSCK YOUR CIRCULAR DEPENDENCIES, FIX YOUR FSCKING CODE DAMMIT 20:46 GRAVGUN TELL DAT TO POETETTETETTERETERING 20:46 PennartLoettring POETETHERING LOLS 20:46 PennartLoettring DAE USE GENTAH? 20:47 GRAVGUN > NO RESPONSE 20:47 coagen GENTOO IS FER DA BEARDS 20:47 GRAVGUN ASSUME DEFAULT YES 20:47 coagen rm -rf / --no-preseve-root; install gentoo 20:48 GRAVGUN --no-preserve-root 20:48 GRAVGUN YOU FUCKING GNU UTILS USER 20:48 GRAVGUN NONSTANDARD ARG 20:48 GRAVGUN I USE LEENUKS NOT GAHNOO/LEENUKS 20:48 PennartLoettring GAHNOO LINIKS DA SHET 20:48 PennartLoettring GAHNOO NOT MED THE SESTYM 20:48 PennartLoettring LINIKS MED THE SESTYM 20:49 PennartLoettring THEN WHO WAS LINIKS? 20:49 PennartLoettring DAE SPY ON TORVALDS? 20:49 GRAVGUN I DO 20:49 PennartLoettring *TORVELDZ 20:49 GRAVGUN I HAZ IDEA 20:49 GRAVGUN TAKE STALLLLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOLOLMANS KATANA 20:49 PennartLoettring DAE WANT TO REMOVE DA DISTRO TORVELDZ USEZ AND INSTELL GENTAH? 20:49 GRAVGUN YOU KNOW THE ONE UNDER HIS BED 20:50 GRAVGUN CUT HIZ HEAD AND LENNARTS 20:50 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: I GED DA REFERENSE 20:50 GRAVGUN THE GENTOO 20:50 GRAVGUN IS DA GOD 20:50 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: BUT 20:50 GRAVGUN NO ONE SHALL STOP IT 20:50 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: TORVELDS HAZ DA NUNCHACO 20:50 GRAVGUN OH NUES 20:50 PennartLoettring HE HAZ THE NOUN TACO 20:51 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: YOU NEED TO KNOW A SECRETZ 20:51 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: WHICH 20:51 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: DA POETTRIX BEST OS IN DA WURLD 20:51 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: WILL HAVE ANTIPLEB PREINSTOLLED 20:52 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: DL LINK OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN 20:52 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: IT WILL BLOCK PLEB SITES 20:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZFCbsLeM6bYt.jpg 20:52 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: LIEK MICROSOFT.COM 20:52 PennartLoettring GRAVGUN: OR LINUXFOUNDATION.COM 20:52 GRAVGUN Calinou: :3 20:52 coagen Feb 14 18:21:51 how expensive is a hitman? 20:52 coagen Feb 14 18:22:03 we can pool some bitcoins 20:52 coagen Feb 14 18:26:42 cut his hands, so he will not be able to write any new line of code 20:52 coagen https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8417176 20:53 PennartLoettring Calinou: HEY DOOD 20:53 PennartLoettring Calinou: YER MINETEST IZ DIRTY 20:53 coagen STALLLLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOLOLMANS KATANA CHOP HANS? 20:53 PennartLoettring Calinou: MINETEST 0.4.10-165-G7FC6E9B-DIRTY 20:53 GRAVGUN PennartLoettring: STOP USING TERVELDS GIT CODESHIT SYNC SYSTEM 20:54 PennartLoettring YOU R DA REAL MVP 20:54 IQUALFRAGILE WRITE SYSTEMD-CODESINKD 20:55 PennartLoettring I can haz interject 4 1 moment. Wat u r reffering to az teh Liniks iz in fact teh gnew/liniks or az i'm taking to calling it recently, teh GNEH plus teh LINICS. Teh LINICS iz not an oprated system unto itself but rather a kurnel dat iz in ur ful GNEH system, makin it usefulll. It can haz GNAH corez, shellz and ALL teh POSIX definisions skillz an utilz! Ur compy users run teh modified GNAH system all dais but not realize becuz 20:55 PennartLoettring reasons! Teh GNUH iz called teh LINECS becuz ur users iz dumb! Teh LINECS iz realz and teh users iz using it, but it iz lik teh LENEKS made u an GNEH operated system, but it eated it! Teh LUNIKS is teh kernal, teh program that allocted ur systems resource so ur programs can haz cheezburgarz n stallmans n lolcats. Teh operated system needz teh megic kernal, but teh kernal iz no us by itself. Teh LINECKS iz normally usless 20:55 PennartLoettring except with teh GNEUH! All teh LINECKS DEESTROS is teh LINECKS wif teh GNUAH added or teh GNEH/LINECKS DEESTREBOTIUNS. 20:55 GRAVGUN SO YOU ARE /R/LINUXCIRCLEJERK'S MALWARE 20:55 PennartLoettring MELWERE? 20:55 PennartLoettring FSCK OF WINDOZE PLEB 20:55 PennartLoettring LINIKS KNOWZ NO MELWERE 20:56 GRAVGUN I WROTE YOU 20:56 GRAVGUN I AM THE MALWARE WRITA 20:56 GRAVGUN YOU ARE THE MALWARE 20:56 GRAVGUN YOU ACTUALLY RUN ON WINDOWS 20:57 PennartLoettring NAH, I RUN POETTRIX GNEME 3 SYSTEMD GTK 3 DESKTEP 20:57 GRAVGUN INSIDE A SOMEHOW PORTED SYSTEMD-CHROOTNGD 20:57 GRAVGUN SO YOU DONT KNOW 20:58 sfan5 o.O 20:58 sfan5 !op 20:58 sfan5 !deop 20:59 GRAVGUN Okay :( 20:59 PennartLoettring nO CAPSLOCK DAY? 20:59 PennartLoettring :( 20:59 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10404#p159486 20:59 Calinou (-: 20:59 Calinou step height stuff 20:59 Calinou I might add this to source code tweaks topic 20:59 Yepoleb is the linux circlejerk already over? 21:00 gravgun Yepoleb: did you have fun? 21:00 Yepoleb i joined too late :( 21:00 PennartLoettring Calinou: Gr8 b8, m8. I rel8, str8 appreci8, and congratul8. I r8 this b8 an 8/8. Plz no h8, I'm str8 ir8. Cr8 more, can't w8. We should convers8, I won't ber8, my number is 8888888, ask for N8. No calls l8 or out of st8. If on a d8, ask K8 to loc8. Even with a full pl8, I always have time to communic8 so don't hesit8. 21:00 Yepoleb why did nobody notify me? 21:00 sfan5 PennartLoettring: could you stop please? 21:01 Yepoleb does systemd support push notifications? 21:01 PennartLoettring No one tells Pennart Loettring he should stop! 21:01 PennartLoettring Because he has the powers to stop your systemd! 21:01 sfan5 can you move the off-topic to #defocus? 21:01 gravgun PennartLoettring: go to ##SYSTEMD-ARGUED 21:02 coagen plz continue any Linucks/systemD discussion in #debianfork or #poetterix 21:03 PennartLoettring *#poettrix 21:03 PennartLoettring #poettrix 21:03 coagen srry, thx 21:05 coagen sfan5: srry, I invited Pennart, and as you can see, we had our fun, plz return to meow 21:05 gravgun I feel sorry for the log bot 21:07 sfan5 coagen: next time I won't just friendly remind you of 21:07 coagen sfan5: i never read rules. so whatever :P 21:08 gravgun coagen: same 21:10 * coagen pets sfan5 21:11 coagen Soft Kitty, Warm Kitty, little ball of fur. Happy Kitty, Sleepy Kitty, purr, purr, purr 21:12 gravgun coagen: Isn't sfan5 a squid girl? 21:13 coagen gravgun: ask, I'm not responsible for sfan5's identity :P 21:14 coagen gravgun: all I know is sfan5 is usually friendly to me, meows, and purrs, etc 21:14 gravgun coagen: at least his (her?) avatar suggests so 21:15 coagen gravgun: however yesterday I invited folks to #debianfork and sfan5 confess their like of SystemD 21:15 coagen i've felt neglected ever since 21:16 coagen drama amirite? 21:16 gravgun coagen: i do actually like systemd for its relative ease of use, but as a developer I think it is... extremely bothersome 21:16 gravgun coagen: that's what I hate it 21:20 coagen gravgun: I find it painful to interact with, and grow weary of its mission creep 21:20 gravgun coagen: talk about it in #poettrix plz, I don't wanna spam #minetest anymore 21:21 coagen gravgun: replacing 30 years of tested code with new code over 25 times greater in an evergrowing codebase... seems illogical 21:32 IQUALFRAGILE GOOD NIGHT 21:58 Argyle77 Does anyone have the forum link for the glow mod? 21:58 VanessaE glow mod? 21:59 Argyle77 Its got glow shrooms and fireflies. 21:59 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4939 this? 21:59 VanessaE oh 21:59 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6300 21:59 VanessaE this? 22:00 Argyle77 That's it. Thanks! I don't know why the search wouldn't give it to me. 22:01 coagen anyone made a flashlight, torch/lantern? that you can carry? 22:02 VanessaE coagen: "walking light" 22:02 VanessaE but such mods are glitchy 22:02 VanessaE example: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=36928 22:03 coagen VanessaE: glitchy as in: doesnt work or as in: craps on performance 22:03 coagen or both?! 22:03 VanessaE performance 22:03 VanessaE because they have to add/remove a transparent light-emitting node every time you move 22:04 coagen hrm 22:04 VanessaE and every time a node is added/removed from the world, the mapblock it's in has to be updated. this causes a brief mesh regen event, which if your machine is slow will cause a tiny FPS drop 22:04 VanessaE everyone around you that's within view will experience the same lag 22:04 VanessaE and yes, they're laggy too 22:05 VanessaE because it's all server-side 22:05 VanessaE such a mod properly requires client-side code but such does not exist 22:06 coagen hrm 22:06 coagen VanessaE: thx 22:09 VanessaE one proposal that was made was client-side, and done entirely with shaders 22:09 VanessaE it would be fast, lag-free, abd high-fps 22:09 VanessaE and* 22:09 * coagen is listening 22:09 VanessaE but it would offer a gameplay advantage to those who have decent hardware 22:09 VanessaE so anyone with crappy machines wouldn't be able to use it 22:10 coagen yeah, i'm crying so many tears for them 22:10 coagen :| 22:10 VanessaE heh 22:10 coagen i know ur rocking good hardware amirite? 22:10 gravgun A more or less possible solution would be to have a "dynamic light overlay" for each mapblock 22:10 coagen r9 290x? 22:11 VanessaE well I am, but MInetest's more CPU-bound than GPU-bound 22:11 VanessaE yep 22:11 gravgun i.e. mapblock mesh does not update, only lit vertices are updated in another vertex buffer and drawn (additive ?) after mapblock's draw call 22:11 VanessaE gravgun: the problem really is in getting the client to do it at all. HOW it does it isn't too important then 22:12 coagen VanessaE: thats right, I keepy trying to casually forget that. think there's any hope of it ever gravitating to take more adv of GPU? 22:12 VanessaE gravgun: that's probably what RealBadAngel would do in fact. 22:13 VanessaE coagen: things are already being moved in that direction. 22:14 coagen VanessaE: waht? cool. can you describe in brief the proposed changes? and leaders of the changes? 22:14 VanessaE coagen: most of it comes from RealBadAngel, but what precisely is being done, only he can tell you 22:14 coagen very good 22:14 VanessaE (I don't remember most of it, and what I do remember e.g. hardware lighting, I'm not sure I understand what's being done) 22:15 VanessaE the one thing I DO remember and DO understand that needs fixed is how the client handles texture manipulation operations (e.g. [transform, [combine, and so forth). 22:15 coagen VanessaE: fixed how? 22:15 VanessaE those operations apparently are not being cached at all. 22:15 coagen VanessaE: doesn't seem broke to me (avg joe user) 22:16 VanessaE they appear to be iterated in realtimem causing huge FPS sags when lots of them are being used (e.g. signs_lib)( 22:16 Argyle77 Do you suppose client / shader lighting will enable colored light? 22:16 VanessaE Argyle77: that's being worked on too 22:17 Argyle77 I saw images of a mod that did it and I thought they looked great. 22:17 coagen VanessaE: aww poop :| 22:18 VanessaE gimme a few to find the image 22:21 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/wHjL1dJ.png 22:24 VanessaE first linked back on Aug. 18 22:24 VanessaE or at least that's what I have in my history 22:24 coagen thats purrty 22:25 VanessaE other mesh-related stuff has to be worked on first though 22:25 VanessaE bugfixes, performance tuning, etc 22:26 VanessaE so says RealBadAngel anyway :) 22:27 Argyle77 Yeah. I'd love to see it work through stained glass too. I read some of the discussion on it a while ago. Looked divisive. 22:28 VanessaE I'm sure when it finally goes in, it'll work well :) 23:17 kaeza greetings 23:22 VanessaE hi