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00:52 zat oh yes... an interpreted language can run fast, indeed, but BY DEFINITION never faster than a compiled language.
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00:55 Fritigern And a cimpiled language will never run as fast as a proigram coded in pure machine language!
00:55 Fritigern *compiled
00:57 zat Fritigern: depends on how you coded it lol
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00:58 Fritigern Using bit manipulation, of course! :-)
00:58 zat if you code assembler like an inefficient compiler that wont help much either lol
00:59 * Fritigern uses notepad and chooses the characters based on the combination of bits that they represent.
01:06 kaeza butterflies?
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02:43 imawaffle night
02:45 TheKingDoof later
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03:51 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=9&t=10428&p=159252
03:51 VanessaE enjoy.
03:54 Fritigern VanessaE: Nice!
03:54 OldCoder VanessaE, roof proof
03:54 Zeno` :D
04:26 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/maxiwQZ.png
04:26 RealBadAngel that looks nice indeed
04:27 VanessaE yup
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05:07 Fritigern Wait.... Meshrooms?
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09:02 Fritigern I am beginning to suspect that farming_plus is incompatible with mg, or vice versa.
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09:11 Fritigern Okay, a test or two confirmed it. If i use mg worldgen and farming_plus, then parming_plus stuffs does not get added to the world
09:12 Fritigern Does anyone have any idea how to make either mg or farming_plus play nice together?
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09:20 Fritigern VanessaE: My tests have shown that flowersplus does not like mg. Most other mods from plantlife do not have the same problem. Any chance that you could figure out why this might be?
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09:26 nore Fritigern, you could try adding "mg?" to farming_plus's depends.txt
09:26 Fritigern Will give that a go and see what happens. Thanks nore
09:29 Fritigern That seems to work, now let's see if the same trick will work for flowerplus.
09:36 ninnghazad what is the problem with all the open PRs? not enough devs or is it not wanted to request pulls? seems a lot of ideas just sit there until they need a rebase and then get dropped.
09:38 ninnghazad no offense, but to me that seems a bit disrespectful - and a waste of a lot of peoples time. or is there some roadmap, where only stuff on the roadmap gets actually added or something?
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11:11 Fritigern Hahaha! Someone added MinetestCraft to http://wiki.minetest.net/List_of_Games , that is so cool!
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11:41 Megaf_ Fritigern: do you lnow whats more cool than that? It is based on my game!
11:42 Zeno` Megaf_ is famous! :D
11:42 Megaf_ heh
11:44 Megaf_ hm
11:44 Megaf_ but maybe Im refering to the wrong game?
11:45 Megaf_ lol
11:45 Fritigern Yes you are
11:45 Megaf_ Zeno`: MinetestCraft is not based on RPi, Clonecraft is
11:46 Megaf_ Fritigern: well, now you could based your game on RPi :P
11:47 Fritigern MineTestCraft is based on minetest_game. And i could do that, but i think MTC is closer to MC than Clonecraft is. So i am still happy with my mod choices :-)
11:49 Megaf_ !seen SAMIAMNOT
11:49 Megaf_ why people no use IRC!?
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11:59 * Zeno` meows at sfan5
12:00 Zeno` ROAR
12:00 Zeno` meh, /me eats the cat
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12:39 Megaf_ !server Megaf
12:39 Megaf_ PenguinDad: thanks
12:39 Megaf_ this bot here is useless...
12:40 Megaf_ gtg
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12:42 Zeno` hehe
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12:53 Stampylonghead Hello!
12:53 jin_xi hi
12:54 Stampylonghead Hi
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13:21 kilbith Sokomine: where is the anti-death star on silvercrab ?
13:23 paramat the life-star
13:28 coagen wow
13:28 coagen mentioned on the Linux action show
13:29 coagen very good me thinks
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13:30 Zeno` What's the linux action show?
13:30 exio4 we take a systed fan, and burn him alive
13:30 * exio4 looks at sfan5
13:32 coagen http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/69​512/ubuntu-14-10-mega-review-las-335/
13:32 coagen the show is about lots of other stuff
13:32 coagen but you can clearly see the link at the bottom of the feedback section way down the page
13:32 exio4 I only need 600 USD
13:32 coagen "Minetest an OSS Alt to MS Owned Minecraft"
13:33 exio4 for a phone
13:33 coagen exio4: isn't the nexus 5 like $350?
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13:34 exio4 well, I think I also need a way to get a Jolla is latin america
13:34 exio4 that would be expensive
13:34 exio4 so, I guess 1000 USD would do it
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13:35 Jeb so is this the game minetests irc?
13:35 coagen or how about mientest IRL?
13:35 * exio4 starts punching the ground with his bare hands
13:36 coagen impotent rage
13:36 exio4 I am just playing minetest irl!
13:36 coagen lol, k, I thought you were still mad about not getting a jolla phone :P
13:37 * PenguinDad starts punching his door
13:38 exio4 coagen: I am not mad for not getting a jolla, I don't really use my phone, but having a phone that I couldn't use as phone would be nice
13:38 PenguinDad lol
13:38 Jeb ugh.
13:38 Jeb noobs
13:39 coagen exio4: I would like to have a jolla phone... I don't even know how to get one in the US...
13:39 exio4 I feel better, if something from the US can't get the jolla easily, then getting it from latin america is basically taking a trip to europe and buying there :P
13:40 coagen I would totally get a firefox phone if I could get it on sprint network: http://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Open-Unloc​ked-Firefox-Cellphone/dp/B00EQL8AEW
13:40 coagen this one is GSM only :|
13:41 exio4 my phone has 3g!
13:41 exio4 and it doesn't work that nice, argentina's networks are .. saturated(?)
13:42 exio4 I think the best I can aim for is an android phone and install joola on it
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13:45 coagen exio4: http://www.jollausers.com/2014/09/how-to-in​stall-sailfish-os-on-nexus-5-the-easy-way/
13:45 * sfan5 purrs at coagen
13:45 exio4 yep
13:45 coagen sfan5: sup pussy XD
13:45 exio4 lets see the price of the nexus5, actually
13:45 sfan5 meow
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13:45 coagen sfan5: how are you?
13:46 sfan5 good
13:46 exio4 used nexus5 for 5900ARS
13:46 sfan5 used exio4 for 1 haskell
13:46 exio4 16gb version is 6000 ARS
13:46 exio4 dat is expensive
13:46 exio4 that is basically all the money I have
13:49 exio4 :F
13:49 exio4 unlocked black nexus5 16gb
13:49 exio4 5900 ARS
13:50 megaman23 noobs
13:50 megaman23 want to know what kind of phone i have/
13:50 exio4 you have a nokia asha?
13:50 megaman23 a samsung galaxy s4!
13:50 exio4 the S4 is meh
13:50 megaman23 ...
13:50 exio4 it is a nice phone, but overpriced
13:50 exio4 and has too much bloatware by default
13:51 megaman23 so
13:54 exio4 k
13:56 Zeno` sfan5, can you look at fast-tracking #1754 ?
13:56 Zeno` there have been a lot of queries and reports about things that that PR probably fixes
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13:58 Zeno` meant to type that in the dev channel, but oh well
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14:03 iqualfragile after the recent addition of a web browser to emacs it is now the best text editor
14:03 iqualfragile to download vim
14:07 PenguinDad TIL there's an irc client for emacs
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14:35 Sokomine kilbith: follow the rails to the north. where one branches off to the west, follow the rails. at their end, you're almost at the non-deathstar. it may take a while to get loaded
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14:40 Zeno` Hi Sokomine!
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14:46 Sokomine hi zeno
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14:48 Zeno` hello
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14:51 realtinymonster I am bored
14:52 realtinymonster !?
14:53 realtinymonster ===gone There was no such nickname
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14:53 realtinymonster This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
14:53 realtinymonster freenode is acting silly
14:53 coagen its kernel hacked again
14:54 coagen python kernel modules FTW!
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14:59 f0m3 hello
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15:01 f0m3 can someone help me with compiling on osx 10.10?
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15:21 iqualfragile how, 40 secs of patience
15:22 Amaz 46
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15:24 microcarrot jojoa1997!
15:25 jojoa1997 hi
15:25 * microcarrot feels out of place here
15:26 jojoa1997 why
15:26 microcarrot too many adults
15:27 microcarrot and just a general feeling of not being necessary
15:27 coagen humans in general are not necessary
15:27 coagen the earth would go on without  us
15:27 coagen just fine
15:27 microcarrot coagen: might even go better
15:28 coagen damn straight
15:28 microcarrot because of pollution and all that crap
15:28 Zeno` none of us are *needed* here
15:29 * microcarrot realized how ignorant most humans are
15:29 cities I'm not needed here but you mostly serve for my own entertainment
15:29 cities during the work day
15:30 microcarrot Zeno`: I don't feel like i've done anything to help the project, so I shouldn't hang out here
15:30 microcarrot s/i've/I've/
15:30 Zeno` microcarrot, this isn't a dev channel
15:30 Zeno` you don't *need* to do anything. Even if you don't do anything you can join the dev channel and just watch as well
15:30 * coagen preaches the "YOU ARE NOT A SNOWFLAKE" aggressive condescending philosophy
15:30 reactor объявлRет набор подопытных
15:31 Zeno` I think basically this channel is just about chat
15:31 coagen reactor: privyet
15:31 Zeno` Have you played minetest?
15:31 Zeno` If so, you've done something ;)
15:32 coagen microcarrot: we were talking about cell phones here a while ago... so its not exaclty on topic
15:32 coagen the minetest devs have their own channel
15:32 reactor coagen: 3DPABCTBYNTE
15:33 microcarrot Zeno`: yeah, i've played, and i've made a new gamemode, Moontest, but I still don't feel like a part of this yes
15:33 Zeno` you should feel part of it because you are :P
15:34 coagen reactor: cto eta "объявлRет"? po angliski pozhalusta?
15:34 coagen reactor: ya tolika znyaet nim noga po russki
15:35 microcarrot Zeno`: I like the fact that making mods is very encouraged
15:35 reactor объявляeт набoр пoдопытных*
15:35 * microcarrot plays games to death then tries to hack away at them
15:35 reactor I made a typo
15:35 Zeno` good attitude
15:35 reactor coagen: "announces"
15:35 microcarrot Zeno`: thanks
15:36 * microcarrot is trying to find a .CGR unprotecter so he can mess with the audiosurf code
15:36 coagen reactor: no, novya nabor podopytnyh? novaya build?
15:37 microcarrot some noob stuck one on the official Quest3D forum and got banned for it
15:37 microcarrot :P
15:38 microcarrot you guys are great, really :D
15:38 microcarrot its neat how on IRC gender doesn't exactly matter
15:39 microcarrot its just a thing that most people here don't care about
15:39 coagen reactor: spacibo, btw, zdrasvute vi tozhe
15:39 microcarrot that's what has interested me about IRC
15:40 coagen microcarrot: A/S/L! NAO!
15:40 coagen kidding
15:40 microcarrot I have made up my mind
15:40 PenguinDad microcarrot: since #minetest is sfw we don't have to care about your sexuality :P
15:40 microcarrot PenguinDad: lel
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15:41 microcarrot Anyone here that would like to help with #moontest is welcome to it
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15:42 kilbith I just found a laaarge LCD screen that work in trash o.o
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15:43 PenguinDad kilbith: 21:9 aspect ratio?
15:44 kilbith 16:9
15:44 kilbith not sure, will check
15:48 kilbith LG ultra slim, 81 cm of diagonal
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15:48 kilbith people get rid of everything nowadays o.o
15:49 microcarrot <Atomicon> I just formatted my hard dick
15:49 microcarrot <Atomicon> *disk
15:49 reactor He said "hard".
15:50 reactor coagen: "announcing the hire of test subjects"
15:52 coagen reactor: cool, for what?
15:53 reactor coagen: idk, I never mailed back
15:54 coagen lol
15:54 microcarrot ,00I'm so happy!
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16:01 microcarrot ,09PIRACY! YAY!
16:03 * PenguinDad shoots microcarrot and takes his data
16:05 microcarrot PenguinDad: noes!
16:05 microcarrot I though we were friends!
16:05 microcarrot :(
16:06 PenguinDad B-b-but piracy!
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16:06 Zeno` ahaha me maties
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16:07 PenguinDad Zeno`: s/maties/m80s/ :P
16:07 Zeno` my bad
16:11 Amaz XD
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16:35 coagen remind me how to set draw dist plz?
16:37 OldCoder sfan5, the sfan5 fans5 on MeowTest wish to see Ninja Kitten there
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16:40 microcarrot swag
16:40 PenguinDad I've got some paws in swap :D
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16:41 microcarrot hs
16:43 MinetestBot [git] maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl -> minetest/minetest: Recalculate normals for cached meshes. d221917 http://git.io/7wtjgg (2014-10-21T18:43:29+02:00)
16:44 microcarrot RBA is really getting with it
16:45 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/8616985/
16:45 microcarrot :D
16:45 Calinou new recap
16:45 Calinou (the second part shown only if announcing server)
16:45 Calinou with some new lines for improved readability
16:46 Calinou the announce message is a duplicate, I'll remove it
16:50 Amaz Calinou, is it still up?
16:50 Calinou of course not
16:50 Amaz What do you mean?
16:51 Calinou the server I set up was just a demo
16:52 Amaz Oh okay :(
16:52 Amaz A demo of what?
16:52 microcarrot Amaz is sad? Why?
16:52 Calinou Amaz-ing
16:52 Calinou Amaz, of the server recap in console
16:52 microcarrot lol
16:52 Amaz The server had mgv5 and carbone.
16:53 microcarrot also,
16:53 Calinou so that you know what you are announcing
16:53 Calinou yes
16:53 Calinou looks like you can send invalid mapgens
16:53 Amaz Ah, okay.
16:53 Calinou I ran a custom build of Minetest with mgv5, which worked
16:53 Calinou but then I was hosting with vanilla Git build, which doesn't have it, thus having an error message every time
16:53 Calinou but the server will announce as mgv5
16:53 QuestionableQues damn
16:55 QuestionableQues this song though: Marvin Kubon - Assertiveness
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16:58 * AAARemix meows at AAAARecord
16:58 AAAARecord ;l
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16:58 Calinou AAA game
16:59 AAAARecord why are we doing this :P
16:59 AAAGame Good question!
17:00 coagen clearly to entertian yourselves
17:00 coagen duh
17:00 AAAGame XD
17:00 AAARemix I have got no idea!
17:00 MXRecord swag
17:00 MXRecord I own all these XD
17:00 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&amp;t=10429&amp;p=159321#p159321
17:01 Calinou please no, I hate these “tech trees”
17:01 MXRecord brb
17:01 MXRecord I will return on another PC
17:01 Amaz Calinou, but, some people hate mobs :P
17:01 Amaz And trampolines.
17:02 Amaz And mesecons.
17:02 coagen trampolines? where!?
17:02 Calinou Carbone has them
17:02 Calinou useful to get to Nyan Cats as they send you very high due to a bug
17:03 PenguinDad Amaz: And some people hate haters ;)
17:03 coagen wow cool
17:03 Amaz :P
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17:07 RealBadAngel btw, whoever wants to play with meshes, recent patch is highly advised
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17:13 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:13 Calinou hi
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17:15 Krock meow
17:15 PenguinDad woem
17:16 Krock foow
17:18 PenguinDad <3 https://soundcloud.com/monster​cat/tut-tut-child-hot-pursuit
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17:19 realtinymonster I am on a forbidden user account on windows guys
17:19 realtinymonster such skill
17:20 PenguinDad realtinymonster: u has godmode now?
17:20 realtinymonster ye
17:20 realtinymonster I could delete the windows folder without any access is denied errors
17:21 realtinymonster which is quite awesome
17:22 sfan5 realtinymonster: nobody cares, go away
17:22 realtinymonster sfan5, you first
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17:25 Krock realtinymonster, get an (old) USB and put an OS on it and boot the stuff. result: you'er able to format the whole HDD. congrats.
17:25 Krock need a cookie?
17:25 realtinymonster Krock, I know this
17:25 realtinymonster no
17:25 * Krock eats the cookie
17:26 * realtinymonster feels left out
17:26 * sfan5 meows at Krock
17:26 * Krock meows back at sfan5
17:26 * sfan5 purrs at Krock
17:26 Krock rrrr.
17:29 realtinymonster PenguinDad, http://i.imgur.com/jrYy8Ut.png
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17:30 Krock congrats, windows 7
17:30 realtinymonster Krock, it was free
17:30 realtinymonster I figured i'd take what I could get
17:31 Krock cmd /k net stop "Designs"
17:31 realtinymonster hmm?
17:32 SylvieLorxu Wow, that's ugly
17:32 SylvieLorxu :P
17:33 Krock Win 95-ME style ftw!
17:33 realtinymonster SylvieLorxu, ha, not my fault people cant design good windows themes
17:33 realtinymonster Krock, you are really funny... and nobody laughs
17:33 SylvieLorxu realtinymonster: Obviously, the only good-looking theme is KDE's "Redmond" theme
17:33 Krock realtinymonster, maybe because it's a text-only-chat?
17:35 SylvieLorxu https://img.bi/#/DyIZvCz!frUWKjFb​mmOCuIwIJUZ7lRoLmxfAVOeXu1FkiB9g
17:35 SylvieLorxu This is the only proper theme ever
17:42 * PenguinDad prefers the redmondxp theme
17:42 * sfan5 prefers the... uh
17:42 sfan5 Adwaita theme apparently
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17:45 * PenguinDad actually has no need for a window border theme because he uses i3
17:48 Calinou hi SylvieLorxu
17:48 Calinou I use Greybird
17:49 SylvieLorxu Greybird?
17:51 Calinou Xubuntu theme, made by Shimmer: http://shimmerproject.org/our-projects/greybird/
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17:53 realtinymonster Krock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvYfRiJQIX8
17:54 Krock ...
17:57 Calinou kaehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8617745/
17:57 Calinou 19:48:02: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ...calinou/.minetest/games/carbo​ne/mods/inactivity/init.lua:38: table index is nil
17:58 Calinou oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8617745/
17:58 Calinou can someone help me with this?
17:58 Calinou trying to make AFK kick mod (with kaeza's code), bugs on first check
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18:14 Jordach sfan5, !cat https://i.imgur.com/kQ62yNM.jpg
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18:29 coagen scuse my while i spam this chan yo: #debianfork
18:32 sfan5 coagen: wat
18:33 coagen sfan5: purr
18:33 sfan5 coagen: do you even fedorafork
18:33 coagen sfan5: cats love #debianfork
18:35 coagen sfan5: you systemD lover :|
18:36 sfan5 "like" != "love"
18:36 sfan5 Calinou: kaehttp? is that a new protocol?
18:39 Calinou does Lua perform lazy evaluation?
18:39 Calinou I fixed my afk bug
18:39 sfan5 I think it does
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19:04 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.github.io
19:04 rubenwardy :D
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19:06 Krock "beruben"?
19:06 Calinou https://osrc.dfm.io/Calinou/
19:06 Calinou hahaha
19:07 Calinou awesome Lua coder, yet I have no repositories
19:07 Calinou “It seems like Calinou is—or should be—friends with webdesigner97. ” heh
19:07 rubenwardy "An interpreter for the Beruben language, inspired heavily by Beruben."
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19:07 AAAARecord I'm Rick James, bitch!
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19:08 Calinou 264 events done, 140 issue comments, 92 new issues, whoa
19:08 exio4 https://osrc.dfm.io/EXio4/
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19:09 AAAARecord hey guys!
19:09 AAAARecord what's going on?
19:09 Krock Are you An AAA Record?
19:10 coagen Krock: no, an AAAARecord is for ipvshicks
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19:10 Krock eww. expected vinyl records.
19:11 Calinou vinyl scratches
19:13 * coagen http://www.partysuperstores.co.uk/img/dedfd9_r.jpg
19:15 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHjGtBnSv50
19:15 AAAARecord Calinou, such ref
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19:18 * AAAARecord is listening to keygn music
19:19 AAAARecord *keygen
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19:21 Krock music who generates keys
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19:23 Calinou Carbone: Reserve 2 slots for administrators, new cobblestone, mossy cobblestone and stone brick textures. Compressed some textures.
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19:54 Jordach WHAT THE FUCK
19:54 Jordach why are there not git builds sfan5
19:55 Amaz XD
19:56 * Amaz throws Linux at Jordach, along with cmake and make
19:56 Jordach after the BS that's called cmake-gui fuck no
19:57 Amaz Open a terminal in the MT source folder, cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1; make -j3; cd bin; ./minetest
19:58 Calinou adding lily pads and mushrooms
19:59 Amaz To cmake?
19:59 Amaz ;)
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20:05 NemoMT Are locked signs from redcrabs' server on minetest 0.4.4 compatable with SilverCrab 0.4.10?
20:07 Amaz NemoMT, I think that they are due to a the locked signs mod being updated.
20:07 Calinou what's the collisionbox of player entity?
20:07 NemoMT Amaz, thank you.
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20:11 Calinou adding troopers (= player-looking enemies) to mobs mod
20:11 Calinou I found collision box
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20:11 Amaz :D
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20:15 Calinou will drop itself, so you can put it to annoy people
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20:24 erlehmann so i just realized that dynamite is pretty fun
20:24 erlehmann how do multiplayer servers handle that?
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20:31 Calinou mobs mod will allow changing monster damage factor (between 0 and 1)
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20:33 Amaz erlehmann, it is disabled by default on servers.
20:40 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HYY5Jxx_VzZG.jpg
20:42 Calinou finally adding surface danger (quite subtle, but will happily kill off AFK players :P)
20:43 VanessaE er, where are they?
20:43 Calinou I'll add separate setting for spawning them
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20:44 Calinou I also added damage factor (between 0 and 1) to reduce monster damage
20:44 RealBadAngel ive fixed plantlike drawtype
20:44 Calinou if you want monsters to just walk at players but not hurt them
20:44 VanessaE RealBadAngel: it was broken?
20:44 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/7jOe1bY.png
20:44 RealBadAngel yes it was since alway
20:44 RealBadAngel +s
20:45 VanessaE other than those tulips being a bit small, what was wrong with it?
20:45 RealBadAngel tulip is visual_scale 0.5, rose 1.0, jungle grass >1.0
20:45 VanessaE ok, that explains the size :P
20:46 Calinou thanks for fixing nodeboxes
20:46 Calinou VanessaE, what do you think about my lily pads?
20:46 Calinou could be worth doing a pull request
20:46 Amaz What would be nice is if all scaled nodes could sit on the ground...
20:46 VanessaE Calinou: nice texture indeed - you should borrow the other sizes/styles from flowers_plus also
20:46 VanessaE there are like 4 or 5 styles (not counting the various rotations of the large size)
20:46 RealBadAngel VanessaE, plant those plants without my code and check whats different
20:46 argyle_ Question:  Does "git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git minetest_core" get the bleeding edge?
20:47 RealBadAngel tulip will fly over node surface, jungle grass will go under
20:47 VanessaE RealBadAngel: lemme guess, the bottom edge rise above/drop below the surface normal of the block below?
20:47 kilbith Calinou: you use a // bamboo texture on Carbone ?
20:47 VanessaE I thought so
20:47 VanessaE rises*
20:47 VanessaE drops8
20:47 VanessaE argyle_: it does.
20:47 VanessaE argyle_: then you have to compile it of course.
20:48 argyle_ So that'll have the mesh node patches?
20:48 VanessaE argyle_: yes
20:48 argyle_ VanessaE: Thanks!
20:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: warning!  WARNING
20:48 RealBadAngel what?
20:48 Calinou how do I vertically offset entity placement?
20:48 Calinou kilbith, yes
20:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: your proposed will break some mods where plantlike has been carefully tuned
20:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: particularly if the visual scale is not precisely 1.0
20:49 Calinou argyle_, be sure to get a subgame too
20:49 RealBadAngel idc, code was broken, the equations were just fucked up
20:49 Calinou (except if you only want to play multiplayer)
20:49 * VanessaE sighs
20:49 Calinou on_place = function(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing)
20:49 Calinou if pointed_thing.above then
20:49 Calinou pointed_thing.above = pointed_thing.y + 1
20:49 Calinou the third line doesn't work :/
20:49 Calinou what would I add instead?
20:50 VanessaE Calinou: pointed_thing.above.y = pointed_thing.above.y + 1  ?
20:50 VanessaE but you really wanna cache pointed_thing.above into a new variable first.
20:50 RealBadAngel calinou last line tries looks like vector (x,y,z) = y + 1
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20:50 Calinou this works
20:51 RealBadAngel VanessaE, and i dont know what could be tuned if old behaviour just caused glitches for visual scale != 1.0
20:52 VanessaE RealBadAngel: the position of the texture, adding some blank space above/below the imagery.  look for example at Moretrees' "plantlike leaves" mode.
20:52 Calinou to not scare people too much, troopers only attack if very close
20:52 VanessaE if you fix this calculation error you will break moretrees, realtest, and I'm not sure what else
20:52 RealBadAngel VanessaE, so time to use simple and regular textures,, not workarounds
20:52 RealBadAngel same code will be applied to meshnodes
20:53 VanessaE RealBadAngel: just don't touch the visual scale as applied to signlike and torchlike drawtypes.
20:53 RealBadAngel i just realized that after issue opened lately
20:53 VanessaE you'll break too many things if you do.
20:53 RealBadAngel and fixed the issue first
20:54 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1747
20:54 RealBadAngel also https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2428
20:56 VanessaE hm, o
20:56 VanessaE ok
20:56 VanessaE well then the math has to match the API I guess
20:56 RealBadAngel i tried to do so but failed ;)
20:56 * VanessaE frowns at the fixes she will have to deploy to realtest and moretrees :(
20:57 Calinou VanessaE, for the texture I used poolar coordinates (GIMP filter) on jungle grass texture :D
20:57 VanessaE anbd the cobweb in homedecor
20:57 Calinou added some more pixels afterwards
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20:57 VanessaE Calinou: cheater :)
20:57 jojoa1997 what did Calinou do?
20:57 Calinou heh, sea with lots of lilypads
20:57 Calinou swamp!
20:57 Calinou seed Trooper, (655, 0, 792) coordinates
20:57 Calinou with latest Carbone Git
20:58 jojoa1997 pic
20:58 Calinou the lily pads are nodeboxes
20:58 Calinou didn't want to deal with signlike rotation :P
20:58 VanessaE imho, signlike rotation should be deprecated
20:59 VanessaE all facedir should use the same set of values
20:59 VanessaE RealBadAngel: opinions on that?
20:59 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Azq3OjNmSWFX.jpg
20:59 Calinou VanessaE, nodeboxes can emulate signlike ;)
20:59 VanessaE Calinou: precisely my point
20:59 RealBadAngel signlike wait for rebuilding too
20:59 Calinou I use small wield_scale z value to make thin wield_image
20:59 RealBadAngel mods that are adding texts to signs are diseaster
21:00 VanessaE RealBadAngel: nononononono
21:00 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I don't mean signs
21:00 RealBadAngel thats signlike
21:00 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I mean the facedir rotation of the signlike draw type.
21:00 VanessaE RealBadAngel: this should be reordered to follow the same rotation values as any other 6dfacedir object
21:01 RealBadAngel i see
21:01 Calinou you can collect troopers once killed, and place them, but they'll still attack
21:01 VanessaE right now it's ...I dunno, 0-5 or some such?
21:01 Calinou good for trolling people
21:01 RealBadAngel something like that
21:01 VanessaE instead of 0-3 + facedir axes
21:01 RealBadAngel but generally its right
21:01 RealBadAngel its axisdir
21:01 VanessaE yeah, and it's bad because it's a total outlier now
21:01 RealBadAngel idk just if the order is the same
21:02 RealBadAngel if not, should be the same as axisdir, so there wont be any problems
21:03 VanessaE I think it's in order by axis dir, yeah
21:03 VanessaE but it's range 0..5 instead of (0..5)*4
21:04 VanessaE doesn't matter.  just a point of contention :P
21:04 RealBadAngel we will see
21:05 Calinou mob punch interval was also shortened, 0.9 second instead of 1
21:09 argyle_ Amazed at how easy it is to compile this!
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21:12 VanessaE bbl
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21:30 hisforever Hi /
21:30 hisforever K
21:35 hisforever I'm im dreambuilders single plauer and I have a dark shadow that is really big how do I get rid of it, I used //pset then //set air and it just moves nod it covering my home Please help if you can?
21:37 hisforever I set the dat to always be at noon how do I reset it to default settings?
21:38 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b​lob/master/minetest.conf.example#L343
21:46 hisforever Ty real thats a big help
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22:29 kaeza greetings
22:33 NemoMT Greetings, kaeza.
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22:53 harrison as Pynchon writes in the (terrible) novel Gravity's Rainbow, the beginning of true paranoia is the idea that even They are being controlled...
22:54 jin_xi banana breakfast is nice tho
22:57 harrison the kangaroohide musette bag was good too
22:58 harrison there are things i liked in GR -- the part of GR that i read
22:58 harrison i remember exactly where the suspension-of-disbelief crumbled and i stopped reading
22:58 harrison they were in a balloon
22:58 harrison fenind off a jet plane
22:59 harrison by throwing pies
22:59 harrison fending
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