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00:11 MichaelE sfan5 are you on?
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00:21 OldCoder Does anybody know what key displays the skins menu?
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00:23 MikeFair_away Hey all - Trying to play minetest with my son
00:23 cg72 OldCoder, on some servers you type /m
00:24 OldCoder It varies yes
00:24 OldCoder MikeFair_away, hi
00:24 MikeFair_away Getting the error "No worldname given or no Game
00:24 MikeFair_away selected
00:24 OldCoder MikeFair_away, you are running locally?
00:24 MikeFair Yes
00:24 MikeFair Windows 7 64-bit
00:24 OldCoder Hang on, I'll restart to follow along
00:25 MikeFair Just downloaded mintest 0.4.10-win64-msvc
00:25 OldCoder One moment
00:25 * MikeFair nods.
00:25 OldCoder You clicked on the Singleplayer tab?
00:26 OldCoder Start over and click that
00:26 MikeFair Yes
00:26 OldCoder Then click New
00:26 MikeFair Then we wanted to do Creative mode and turn off damage (but that doesn't seem to matter)
00:26 OldCoder Clicked new?
00:26 MikeFair Yes
00:26 OldCoder Entered a world name? And then create?
00:27 MikeFair Yes
00:27 OldCoder Then the world name showed up in Select World list?
00:27 MikeFair no
00:27 MikeFair When I click Create; we get the error
00:27 OldCoder Go on
00:27 OldCoder Wait
00:27 MikeFair That's pretty much it
00:27 OldCoder Hold on
00:28 MikeFair Mapgen is v6
00:28 OldCoder Wish to try a June build of mine? For comparison purposes
00:28 MikeFair Game says "minetest" - Minimal development test
00:28 kaeza MikeFair, where did you install Minetest?
00:28 MikeFair I just unzipped it in the download folder, navigated to the executable and executed it
00:28 OldCoder Should work
00:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140610b.zip
00:29 OldCoder That's one of mine; may not work with 0.4.10 but should work locally
00:29 kaeza ah ok
00:29 OldCoder Let's try it for comparison purposes
00:29 OldCoder Download the ZIP
00:29 MikeFair Downloading now
00:30 MikeFair It's significantly bigger...
00:30 OldCoder It's full of mods and cached goodness
00:30 MikeFair cool
00:30 OldCoder I think it's 0.4.8 or .9 and may not work with outside worlds but try it locally
00:31 OldCoder You seem technical; so the obvious sequence failed? Create is where the error occured? Interesting
00:31 kaeza MikeFair, does it show an error message when clicking "Create" or just nothing?
00:31 OldCoder You've got 64-bit Windows?
00:31 OldCoder Yes, you do
00:31 * OldCoder wonders about missing DLLs
00:31 MikeFair Popup that says the error message from above "No World name given or Game not selected"
00:32 kaeza did you select a game from the "games" list when creating the world?
00:32 MikeFair Yes, I'm fairly technical (coder, network engineer, sysadmin, etc -- both linux/windows)
00:32 OldCoder Hm
00:32 MikeFair kaeza: No, there was nothing to select
00:33 kaeza I see
00:33 MikeFair kaeza: So I hit "new"; typed in a World Name; figured I could leave Seed blank and it would make one for me; then hit create
00:33 OldCoder I'm downloading the ZIP too; seven minutes.
00:34 MikeFair Looked for some way to select a "Game" but only see a drop down for the terrain generator (figured whatever was default was best)
00:34 kaeza that's weird, there should be at least a "Minimal Development Test" entry in it
00:34 kaeza (in the game list, I mean)
00:34 MikeFair (My download says 11 minutes left
00:35 MikeFair kaeza: Oh yes, there's an entry populated that says minetest 'Minimal Development Test' == but there's nothing to select (aka for me to do or do wrong)
00:36 * OldCoder looks forward to the test of his
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00:38 kaeza MikeFair, ah, I deleted my config to reset settings; apparently, you must click on the "minimal" option to select it (the game does not do so automatically)
00:38 MikeFair Oh - we did turn on Waving Water; Waving Leaves; Waving Plants - because we thought that'd be cool --- I shouldn't cause this kind of issue though
00:39 MikeFair That was it
00:39 kaeza did that work?
00:39 MikeFair So did we want Minetest or "Minimal Development Test"?
00:39 MikeFair Yes I was able to create a game
00:40 bjrohan__ Is the Carts mod the best mod for . . .  mine carts that run on rails?
00:40 kaeza "Minetest" is the main game, "Minimal" is for development purposes
00:40 kaeza you'd be better getting a more complete "game" though. hold on a sec
00:42 * PenguinDad goos to sleep
00:42 kaeza MikeFair, this one is a rather complete "game", with mobs (monsters) included: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9033
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00:42 MikeFair Ok game world seems to be working
00:43 kaeza or if you want an, ahem, VERY complete game, try Dreambuilder: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=15&t=9196&start=25
00:45 MikeFair Now we happen to have an Oculus (and soon probably other smart phone based VR gear) which we used in minecraft
00:45 MikeFair It seemed to work ok
00:45 MikeFair Forum posts seemed to suggest that there was no point at supporting it
00:45 MikeFair in minetest
00:46 MikeFair FWIW - we're putting in our vote; but obviously not demanding it; and if I can I plan on seeing if there's anything I can do about it
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00:46 MikeFair (vote fot it)
00:46 kaeza I can't say for sure. the issue was (or is?) that it requires an expensive license or some such
00:47 MikeFair Well the headgear was $500 for a DK2 - retail will be ~$300
00:47 MikeFair So there's a real hurdle/cost there
00:47 MikeFair Other solutions like this one: http://mergvr.com/
00:47 MikeFair err mergevr.com
00:47 kaeza also that: the fact that no dev currently has access to the hardware
00:47 MikeFair use an android phone as the display, so the game is running on the phone
00:48 MikeFair kaeza: That's what the forums were primarily saying
00:48 MikeFair We'd also love to use our Game Controllers -- currently we're using some keymapping software
00:50 kaeza you may have better answers for that on the development channel, #minetest-dev
00:50 MikeFair Can we do full screen?  Alt+Enter and F11 didn't work
00:50 MikeFair OH; hehe didn't recognize there was a minetest-dev; suite
00:50 kaeza yes, but you'll need to close the game, edit the conf and restart
00:50 MikeFair err sweet
00:51 OldCoder MikeFair, is the download done?
00:51 MikeFair A minute left still
00:51 MikeFair (I was actually suprised it hadn't completed yet)
00:51 kaeza screenW = x, screenH = y, fullscreen = true, in minetest.conf
00:51 bjrohan__ VanessaE: What mod is used on your creative server for the roller coaster
00:52 MikeFair OldCoder: Done - extracting
00:52 OldCoder kk
00:52 OldCoder Same as before
00:52 VanessaE the roller coaster's built with standard rails, colored wood, a few moreblocks glow glass and homedecor objects, mesecons to start it and keep it moving, and PilzAdam's carts mod is what runs on it.
00:52 OldCoder Enter folder
00:52 VanessaE bjrohan__: ^^^^^^
00:53 MikeFair OldCoder: Hmm; unzip seems to be going slow...
00:53 MikeFair 300K per sec
00:53 OldCoder kk
00:55 MikeFair So what's DreamBuilder?
00:55 VanessaE it's an everything-and-the-kitchen-sink game
00:55 OldCoder MikeFair, choose the game "fully_loaded"
00:55 kaeza ^
00:55 VanessaE build whatever you can imagine :)
00:55 OldCoder In my download
00:56 kaeza and their mother too
00:56 VanessaE heh
00:56 MikeFair OldCoder: And that's what we're unpacking right now
00:56 MikeFair cool
00:56 kaeza :P
00:57 MikeFair any docs so we can know about everything we can do?
00:57 OldCoder Regrettably, it's piecemeal. Ask players here.
00:57 OldCoder I don't play myself, got involved 2 years ago, run 20 worlds now
00:57 OldCoder We just started a really really nice one you should visit
00:57 MikeFair Sounds more like me - I really don't like "playing" per se
00:58 OldCoder <- He is an Old Coder
00:58 MikeFair There are some things I'm looking forward too though
00:58 OldCoder Bring your kid to visit SilverCrab at minetest.org port 30019 and looking forward to what?
00:58 MikeFair For instance, if you guys ever saw OpenCobalt or OpenWonderland (http://www.openwonderland.org)
00:58 OldCoder Sounds interesting
00:59 MikeFair One of things they have are portals to other worlds; the doorways in OpenCobalt were actually rendering the world/window of the remote world (aka another game on anohter server)
00:59 OldCoder Yes
00:59 OldCoder There is an open 2nd life
00:59 OldCoder that does that
01:00 bjrohan__ VanessaE: Thank you!
01:00 MikeFair oh right, I never used SL
01:00 MikeFair but yeah; they've got it too
01:00 OldCoder I tried to build the client
01:00 OldCoder Nightmare
01:00 OldCoder Serious, spent days on it; forget it
01:00 MikeFair Anyway, I thought it'd be a cool way for people to share their creations by linking to a junction world
01:01 OldCoder Might try the FOSS one. yes.
01:01 OldCoder If you can agree
01:01 OldCoder on the protocol
01:01 MikeFair Kind of like a mall or apartment building
01:01 OldCoder Yep
01:01 OldCoder Mine seems to be working\
01:01 OldCoder Tell me what it does for you
01:02 MikeFair When you give people your "address"; that permissions them to enter the door
01:02 MikeFair OldCoder: Will do
01:02 MikeFair So you build a portal to the nexus world; it's just a big place with lots and lots of doorways and portals
01:03 MikeFair and people travelling to and fro
01:03 MikeFair or hanging out waiting for people to invite them check out their latest creations
01:03 MikeFair anyway; that's one thing
01:04 MikeFair the other is to use a projector to make a large video wall; then kind my daughter a "wand"
01:04 MikeFair and make it so she can "cast spells" and whatnot in the virtual world "behind the wall"
01:05 OldCoder For a non-gamer you have thought about this
01:05 MikeFair or through the wall as the case may be
01:05 MikeFair Then lastly; and this one is more me; is making a progammable workflow
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01:06 MikeFair So binding in-game blocks to out-of-game URLS/objects
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01:12 MikeFair OldCoder: Ok; done!
01:12 MikeFair launching game
01:12 MikeFair going for "Fully Loaded"
01:13 MikeFair OldCoder: THere were some errors
01:14 OldCoder What?
01:15 MikeFair OldCoder: ok, let me see if I can find them
01:15 MikeFair some modules lacking dependencies
01:16 OldCoder Odd!
01:16 OldCoder Should be none
01:16 OldCoder Try the middle _game
01:16 MikeFair bamboo, moretrees, and vines need plants_lib; farming_plus needs farming;
01:18 MikeFair can we fly?
01:19 kaeza sure, do /grant <yourname> fly
01:19 kaeza then use... uhh... 'K' was it? to toggle fly mode
01:19 MikeFair Hmm, in single palyer what's my name
01:19 kaeza "singleplayer" (no space)
01:20 OldCoder So, it's working?
01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: Oh yeah - sorry
01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: I'm still using "Fully Loaded"
01:20 OldCoder Glad to hear it!
01:20 OldCoder You might have sound
01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: It's seems to be working great
01:20 OldCoder Chirping birds etc.
01:20 MikeFair We have sound (no music)
01:20 OldCoder I'll update this for 0.4.10
01:20 MikeFair oh no birds yet
01:21 MikeFair night is falling :)
01:21 OldCoder You can set time using /time 6000 for day or /time 0 for midnight
01:21 MikeFair so far the only things we hear are our own noises
01:21 MikeFair walking/building/gathering
01:21 OldCoder We'll see. This was a quick test I did in June.
01:21 OldCoder Worked pretty well.
01:22 OldCoder Cross-built from Linux!
01:22 MikeFair Oh cool!  I always hold my breath on cross-builds
01:23 MikeFair the /time worked great
01:23 MikeFair hold on got something
01:23 MikeFair trying to store i statically; but block already contains 49 objects
01:23 MikeFair forcing delete
01:23 OldCoder It took a while to figure out
01:23 OldCoder So database problem of some type
01:24 MikeFair got a few of these when he found a chest
01:24 OldCoder Ah
01:25 OldCoder Well, pleased to hear it. There is a public servers list. I run New York City, the dead city of Pripyat, SilverCrab (huge world), and many others. Most have been down but are coming back.
01:27 MikeFair OldCoder: Well in case you haven't already been told; minetest has come up as potentially a new minecraft now that MS bought Minecraft
01:28 MikeFair could not load image technic_akalin_dust
01:28 MikeFair technic_alatro_dust
01:29 MikeFair Don't know if you really want to know
01:29 OldCoder MikeFair, quite interested in all of this
01:30 OldCoder I'd like to PM with you again if you don't come to my channel
01:30 OldCoder Will you ping me sometime?
01:30 MikeFair Please
01:30 MikeFair feel free
01:30 OldCoder You stop by IRC?
01:30 MikeFair Fairly regularly; I typically hit the project channels
01:30 MikeFair or the language channels
01:30 OldCoder I *would* like to chat with you
01:30 MikeFair depdning on what problems I'm trying to solve
01:31 OldCoder I have more, um, older people to talk to these days
01:31 OldCoder But a really old person
01:31 OldCoder is still not common
01:31 OldCoder :P
01:34 MikeFair Hmm, the world seems to be deconstructing itself
01:34 MikeFair and several glitches -- not sure if that's normal
01:35 OldCoder Neither am I
01:35 OldCoder Usually
01:35 OldCoder worlds are not supposed to dissolve :-)
01:35 MikeFair hmm ok it came back
01:35 OldCoder Ah!
01:35 OldCoder No, that is vision
01:35 OldCoder You can adjust it
01:35 OldCoder Blocks are invisible after a distance
01:35 OldCoder to speed things up
01:36 OldCoder There is a .conf file setting to set min and max viewing range
01:36 OldCoder Plus you can press F3 to turn fog off and on
01:36 OldCoder F1 and F2 and F5 toggle other things
01:36 OldCoder F12 makes a screenshot
01:36 MikeFair It was getting a lot of those "trying to store id=XXX statically; but block (x, y, z) already contains 49 objects. forcing delete.
01:36 Brains MikeFair: Fancy meeting you here...  (#lalugs, #vpscoop)
01:36 MikeFair Brains: hey there! :)
01:37 MikeFair how's out east?
01:37 * Brains fired up minetest a little while back for use with his son...
01:37 MikeFair What a coincidence; now we just need cbsmith and his son eh?
01:38 * Brains thought he was a dead man earlier...  While the family was out, he managed to bungle things enough that the server would crash on start up.  Not a good thing when you've got a couple of weeks of a 7yr old's work there.
01:38 MikeFair OldCoder: Is there anything that should be "jumping sand" blocks
01:39 MikeFair Brains: Yeah that would be umm, bad. ;)
01:39 Brains It was an attempt to migrate to redis as the db backend.  (If you are just setting things up, might as well start with leveldb instead of sqlite.  Seems to perform better.)
01:40 MikeFair Ack, alright, being called for dinner
01:40 MikeFair You mean this things got options
01:40 MikeFair : )
01:40 * Brains checks on his uranium centrifuges...
01:41 Brains For completely peaceful purposes, of course.
01:41 MikeFair One of the experiments I'm quite keen to test out is if these worlds can be stored in something like GnuNet or FreeNet
01:41 * MikeFair replaced his with a Thorium LFTR a while ago.  I get fewer complaints from the neighbors now.
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01:42 MikeFair Then use each minetest node as part of the P2P net
01:42 * Brains set up his world with the dreambuilder game...  Technic and pipeworks and homedecor and all that so that there is something for everything/one.
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01:42 MikeFair That's sounds cool; I'm grateful that OldCoder seems to have gotten me set up on a similar rig
01:43 MikeFair ok; dinner is starting
01:43 MikeFair_away bbl
01:43 Brains later
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02:13 OldCoder VanessaE, awake?
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02:21 bjrohan__ In the cart mod, is there a way to make it move while you are in it, like Minecraft leaning?
02:23 NakedFury OldCoder, do you have files to download the game like before?
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02:43 OldCoder NakedFury, which game or world do you mean?
02:43 NakedFury yours
02:43 OldCoder Um
02:43 OldCoder I have 20
02:43 OldCoder Can you be more specific?
02:44 OldCoder Come see SilverCrab BTW
02:44 NakedFury my last minetest downloaded from you was minetest-121213
02:44 OldCoder Ah!!
02:44 OldCoder I have one from June
02:44 OldCoder Link is above
02:44 OldCoder I will rebuild a newer one
02:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140610b.zip
02:45 NakedFury had just found it
02:45 OldCoder NakedFury, if you mean Windows, try that one
02:45 OldCoder It may not connect to 0.4.10 servers
02:46 NakedFury downloading now
02:53 Cylus Fancy seeing you here, pehjota! I didn't know you were a Minetester.
03:13 pehjota Cylus: Hey!  Yeah, I've played Minetest since the 0.3.x days, and I'm one of the admins of the LibrePlanet Gaming Collective's Minetest server.
03:17 Cylus pehjota: And I thought I was old coming from the 0.4.3 days. Is that server on the public server list?
03:19 Zeno` Is donat-b here using a different nick?
03:21 pehjota Cylus: No, it's not – at least for now I guess.  <http://gaming.libreplanet.org/minetest/> has information about the server.
03:25 NakedFury that map looks nice
03:25 Cylus Yeah, it does.
03:25 NakedFury some areas are just cut off, errors in map gen I guess right?
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03:25 Cylus I might pop in at some point to see what some of those things are.
03:26 Cylus NakedFury: I'm guessing the lines are from mapgen changes.
03:27 pehjota Those are areas players haven't yet explored (and thus which haven't yet been generated).
03:27 NakedFury I meant places with square deserts in the middle of green areas
03:27 pehjota That map is automatically generated with the C++ mapper, and the older Python mapper had pretty much the same output.
03:28 pehjota Ah, yeah, I assume those are from different versions of the mapgen.
03:28 Cylus Does anyone know if either of these mappers can handle custom games?
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03:29 Cylus I'd love to map my world, but I don't think I'll have the same node names as I'm not using minetest_game.
03:30 pehjota Yeah, you'll just have to edit the mapper's colors.txt file.
03:31 pehjota And I highly recommend using the C++ mapper; it's /much/ faster.
03:31 Cylus Okay, sweet. That sounds easy.
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03:32 Cylus The C++ mapper wouldn't compile for me several months ago, but I imagine it now either compiles better or has better compilation instructions, as it seems to be the recommended version now.
03:33 pehjota Hmm, it compiled fine for me in July 2013.
03:34 paramat minetestmapper-numpy is an excellent mapper, does cross sections, side views etc. but needs python-numpy installing
03:34 paramat *installed
03:35 pehjota Oh, interesting.  Hadn't heard of that one before.
03:35 paramat link coming
03:36 paramat https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=8730
03:36 paramat dyson sphere http://i.imgur.com/PDBMr1P.png
03:38 paramat it's pretty fast too
03:38 pehjota Yup, found the forum thread.  Cool!
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03:54 rickmcfarley wow, that .png looks really cool
04:01 paramat thats my 'flexrealm' lua mapgen in dyson sphere mode
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04:03 rickmcfarley once the 2nd shifters leave, I want to give it a try
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05:00 Fritigern_AFK I suppose it is not possible to switch between creative and survival from withn the game, is it?
05:01 Cylus Fritigern_AFK: No, it it is not. The world must be rebooted for that.
05:02 Fritigern_AFK Thought so. Oh well, maybe one day :-)
05:03 Cylus Probably one day. The only real issue I can see in implementing it would be the redefinition of the hand's digging capabilities mid-game. The rest is totally codable in Lua today.
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05:33 OldCoder If anybody interested in RedCrab is awake, ping me
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05:38 Zeno` Hi OldCoder
05:38 OldCoder Zeno`, hello`
05:39 Zeno` VanessaE, I kind of just brought MTZ to a standstill
05:39 Zeno` a bucket of water on 7000 nodes of lava
05:39 Zeno` oh well
05:39 VanessaE eeeep
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05:40 VanessaE you can lighten that load some:
05:40 Zeno` the cave looks like Pompei
05:40 Zeno` I am world editing lava sources out lol
05:40 VanessaE in default, um..  I'll find the location in a moment...  you can turn the lavacooling ABMs down a bit
05:40 Zeno` hmm, I'll look at that later
05:40 Zeno` for the moment things have settled down. The problem has happened twice now though
05:41 VanessaE minetest_game/mods/default/functions.lua line 147
05:41 Zeno` it's when there is a cave >200 nodes deep and heaps of lava
05:41 VanessaE and 157
05:41 VanessaE turn the chance to about 15 and interval to around 5
05:41 Zeno` so caverealms carves out a huge section and someone (usually me :/) pours water on the lava lol
05:41 VanessaE I think those are the values I use in dreambuilder
05:41 Zeno` I'll look there
05:42 Zeno` I think there was talk of re-writing this lava/water falling in C++ but I can't recall
05:42 Zeno` server CPU is back to normal
05:42 * Zeno` calms down
05:42 VanessaE the lavacooling code is fine in Lua, but the reflow code in C++ is...well...  not good.
05:42 VanessaE adjusting the ABM settings will help
05:43 Zeno` yeah got the file open now
05:45 Zeno` The forest I planted is almost covered with pumice
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05:46 Zeno` I quite like it
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06:15 CWz i think either the snow mod or the moretrees mod is making my singleplayer world unresponsive on mapgen. no big deal though
06:26 VanessaE CWz: update your plantlife modpack
06:26 VanessaE I fixed plants_lib so that it should never lag a map again
06:26 VanessaE (or at least, no more lag than you get from the core mapgen anyway)
06:26 VanessaE Zeno` can confirm that :)
06:27 VanessaE you can even turn off the "spawn only saplings" mode in moretrees - even spawning whole trees at generate time is no longer laggy, so it would seem
06:28 paramat CWz, also, set snow mod as a dependancy of moretrees, so it generates first, that way around is faster mapgen
06:28 Zeno` I don't think it will matter with the new plants_lib changes
06:28 VanessaE paramat: with current plants_lib, that doesn't much matter anymore.
06:28 VanessaE you should give it a try
06:28 paramat and use snow mod version 0.3.1, it's much faster
06:29 VanessaE plants_lib doesn't read mapblocks in on_generated anymore
06:29 VanessaE it reads them during a globalstep
06:29 VanessaE (and only if they haven't already been read)
06:30 VanessaE so whatever is there, is there, and that's what it works with.
06:31 paramat hm okay
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06:35 paramat nore, sfan5, my pull request for boats mod https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/328
06:35 * paramat returns to watching mecha anime
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06:39 nore sfan5: should I merge the pull for new ore blocks?
06:46 VanessaE paramat: forget the anime and go try out current plantlife :)
06:50 MinetestBot [Git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Add new ore blocks textures ba8cbbc http://git.io/OK8zqA (2014-10-05T08:49:55+02:00)
06:51 * paramat continues to watch anime
06:53 VanessaE :P
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07:32 sfan5 nore: yes
07:32 sfan5 nore: nvm, was already merged
07:32 nore yep, since I saw right after that that you agreed too
07:32 nore (in the comments)
07:38 Fritigern_AFK VanessaE: What could be the reason why a new world won't generate when moretrees is added?
07:39 Fritigern_AFK Hold up, i think i may have found the reason
07:43 Fritigern_AFK Bah,. stupid dependencies.... So, i am making my own modpacks now, sort of. It's so easy....
07:44 Fritigern_AFK I basically use it for grouping mods together that would be best off being kept together. Like moretrees and plants_lib
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08:08 hisforever Hi everybody Whats up?
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08:09 hisforever On Signs can you make the font biger?
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08:30 Krock http://i.imgur.com/c9F5sLz.png
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08:47 Calinou trying this: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=10055
09:05 Megaf !up Linux
09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: Invalid Address
09:05 Megaf !server Megaf
09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 310ms
09:05 Megaf !server Linux
09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: LinuxGaming.us | LinuxGaming.us | Clients: 3/20, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 168ms
09:09 Megaf blaise: You there?
09:10 Megaf weird, I can't connect to LinuxGaming
09:11 PenguinDad !up LinuxGaming.us
09:11 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 seems to be down
09:11 PenguinDad :(
09:16 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
09:16 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (752ms)
09:19 Megaf !up LinuxGaming.us
09:19 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 is up (137ms)
09:20 Megaf ^ PenguinDad
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09:21 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening|other?] everyone.
09:21 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Kd_agkt3QOC_.jpg
09:22 ElectronLibre A worm hole? O_o
09:22 PenguinDad Good parse(get_timeofday("LOCAL")) ElectronLibre!
09:23 ElectronLibre It's mg mod I guess Calinou.
09:24 ElectronLibre Thank you PenguinDad ^^. It's lua, isn't it?
09:25 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: Lua with fake functions
09:26 PenguinDad s/fake/pseudo/
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09:34 Fritigern_AFK [01:09:15] [[ hisforever ]] On Signs can you make the font biger?
09:35 Fritigern_AFK I would like to know that too. It's hard to read unless you get really close to the signs
09:35 PenguinDad Fritigern_AFK: you're afk but still able to speak :D
09:36 Fritigern There, better?
09:36 Fritigern Now, about the signs
09:37 PenguinDad Fritigern: If you are talking about signs_lib signs it should be possible but I'm not sure how
09:37 ElectronLibre Make the font bigger? Possible with 3D signs by using bigger textures for the letters/numbers, but probably impossible by infotext...
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09:43 Fritigern PenguinDad: morefences/config.lua, line2 : morefences.creative_inv = 1
09:43 Fritigern Nobody would guess that this means that you indend to HIDE the fences with that line
09:54 Krock Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/PAHg0je.jpg
09:55 Calinou ElectronLibre, it's amgmt
09:55 * ElectronLibre write : Never try this mod if I don't want to destroy my map.
09:55 PenguinDad a meme generator minetest edition :D
09:56 Krock yappy mapgen ftw!
09:58 ElectronLibre I've got to go, bye.
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10:04 PenguinDad Fritigern: is this ok? https://github.com/PenguinDad/morefences/com​mit/630ed81a5d47a7fadff4e2e02e407e0b2e99552a
10:05 Fritigern That looks great, adn is a lot less confusing
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10:42 Fritigern Alrighty. I have started work on a game, intended to feel familiar to MC users. I am trying to give it a similar feel as MC 1.2.5.
10:44 Fritigern I don't feel that i am ready to post this in the foryum yet,. but whoever wants to give the game a whirl, you can find the repo at https://github.com/Fritigern/minetestcraft
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11:32 Krock Fritigern, you can use the amend function for commits like "Removed README.md which should have happened in the previous commit."
11:32 Fritigern [04:25:06] troller [~p@80.240.216.69] has quit IRC: Quit: Leaving   <= Poor troller, i guess we trolled him by being quiet :-)
11:33 Fritigern Krock: It shouldn't happen too often. And this method works too. BTW, i use mostly gitk and git gui because i am a git n00b
11:34 Krock Fritigern, I use tortoiseGit and it's actually easy if you know the basics
11:34 Krock cuz those noobs dropped the support for win XP
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11:35 Fritigern I keep being told that it's easy once you know the basics, but i have digffficulty learning git stuffs. Trust me, i have been trying hard
11:35 Fritigern *difficulty
11:35 Fritigern And my fingers are dyslexic. Not me, only my fingers.
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11:37 Krock lol
11:37 Fritigern It's the only explanation. Because i know exactly how stuff is supposed to be spelled, but my fingers hve other plans
11:37 Fritigern *have
11:37 Fritigern See?
11:44 Fritigern Krock: Have you tried the game yet?
11:44 Krock Fritigern, not yet
11:45 Fritigern Okay, i was wondering because you obviously have looked at my repo :-)
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11:48 john_minetest hi
11:50 Fritigern Hi john_minetest
11:50 Fritigern Care to test a new game pack?
11:51 Fritigern I'm not yet ready to post this in the forum. but if you want to give the game a whirl, you can find the repo at https://github.com/Fritigern/minetestcraft
11:51 reactor Mщrning.
11:51 Fritigern Gut moaning, reactor
11:51 reactor Sometimes. The other times it's mourning.
11:52 reactor Either that or mowing.
11:52 Fritigern My condolences
11:52 Fritigern meowing?
11:52 PenguinDad Fritigern: you should rather use signs_lib instead of PilzAdam's signs mode
11:52 reactor Sometimes.
11:52 PenguinDad mooing!
11:52 Fritigern PenguinDad: Why?
11:53 PenguinDad Fritigern: because it is more stable and supports colors
11:54 Fritigern PenguinDad: The font is also quite unreadable
11:55 reactor Speaking of colours.
11:55 reactor Please mane escape!
11:55 reactor make*
11:55 * Fritigern cuts a door in the wall "There's your escape!"
11:55 reactor Sometimes I do really mean the "#" or whatever is used for colours I don't remember.
11:56 PenguinDad "make: *** No rule to make target 'escape'.  Schluss." :(
11:56 Fritigern Ah, you mean an escape character! That would be welcome
11:57 * reactor looks at the door Fritigern has just cut.
11:57 reactor tsk-tsk.
11:57 * reactor goes "ДВЕРЬ МНЕ ЗАПИЛИ!"
11:57 * Fritigern grabs some drywall and begins to cover the door.
11:58 * reactor slaps Fritigern with a pile of bricks. "No kludging here."
11:59 * Fritigern starts building a brick wall around the door
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12:02 Fritigern I don't know what to do about versioning. Perhaps i will include a changelog or so. Then again. keeping a changelog is a pain...
12:05 reactor Why keep changelog if you can comment every commit?
12:06 reactor Though everntually you'll have to summarise it.
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12:21 * john_minetest gives Jordach a <'((((-<
12:21 * Jordach bats it away
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12:21 john_minetest Btw, I found screenshots from the minetest christmas server last year. :D
12:22 sfan5 christmas server?
12:22 * ElectronLibre gives sfan5 the <'(((-<
12:22 * sfan5 noms it
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12:23 ElectronLibre (Ho, It reminds me it's time to prepare my Halloween greating card.)
12:26 sfan5 Jordach: someone should do this again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzJlOKVi4D4
12:28 john_minetest Just make a creative server And build a dam there.
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12:38 Johngreat hey
12:38 ElectronLibre Hello Johngreat.
12:38 Johngreat hello
12:39 Johngreat im gonna upload a video soon
12:41 ElectronLibre Great. About what? A tutorial?
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12:42 Johngreat woops
12:42 Johngreat i logged off accidently
12:42 PenguinDad About MLG Minetest :>
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13:18 Jordach sfan5, LogoSkyblock? :D
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13:46 sfan5 Jordach: :
13:46 sfan5 Jordach: :D
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14:13 * ElectronLibre has finally found the lua socket package on Debian. It was very difficult..
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14:18 * PenguinDad would like to see this merged https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1277
14:21 cities Hi
14:22 * ElectronLibre thinks that will never be merged https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1591
14:23 ElectronLibre Hello cities.
14:23 cities Hey there
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14:28 rubenwardy If you want something merged, you have to pester the devs to review it on #minetest-dev
14:28 ElectronLibre I've still done it :°...
14:28 ElectronLibre What about you PenguinDad?
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14:42 _Esteban good morning guys
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14:55 MinetestBot [Git] BlockMen -> minetest/minetest: Add [colorize modifier 28438bb http://git.io/Z9-Xjg (2014-10-05T16:49:52+02:00)
14:58 rubenwardy Ha, colorize
14:59 rubenwardy As in MinetestBot is using ctrl-k
14:59 rubenwardy Nevermind
15:00 BlockMen rubenwardy, better :P
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15:00 rubenwardy :P
15:02 _Esteban what does this "[colorize modifier" do? :P
15:02 ElectronLibre Colorize? For what?
15:02 rubenwardy It changes the color of a texture
15:02 jin_xi to make many different colored variations of a base texture
15:02 rubenwardy Like tints
15:03 _Esteban so this would enable easier coloring of textures for mods that add colored versions of blocks?
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15:03 jin_xi stuff like this is one example (not the typical application) http://i.imgur.com/ocAyR1x.png
15:05 BlockMen more like for stained wood, etc
15:05 BlockMen without needing 100 differen textures for that
15:05 _Esteban awesome! :D
15:06 Zeno` err, you spelt colour wrong
15:06 rubenwardy lol
15:06 Zeno` heheh
15:06 rubenwardy Rule Britannia!
15:06 BlockMen AE is standart
15:06 Brains And/or the remnants of it.
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15:08 RealBadAngel Jordach, here?
15:09 Jordach yus
15:09 rubenwardy Because they are bigger, not because it is a better version. Which I am not saying either way. Anyone can sea that the English sucks - mainly because words sound the same with different spellings.
15:09 RealBadAngel Jordach, i need a few very basic objects, like stairs and full node
15:09 Zeno` I sea what ewe did there, rubenwardy!
15:09 BlockMen IMO some words sound nice in BE some in AE
15:10 rubenwardy ~Ha
15:10 rubenwardy Species
15:10 RealBadAngel im doing now tests whats faster nodeboxes or meshes
15:10 Jordach it's not hard to use the blender
15:11 rubenwardy Don't you dare make NBE obsolete, RealBadAngel.
15:11 RealBadAngel youre good at it
15:11 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, atm r2d2 model is as fast as pipe from pipeworks
15:12 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/o1gPXT7.png
15:12 rubenwardy Surely that's just the algorithm? You could improve the nodebox maker to turn it into a mesh.
15:12 rubenwardy UV mapping in blender is difficult.
15:12 RealBadAngel but this model from Jordach is faster than single tube
15:12 Jordach RealBadAngel, proving my point meshes are faster than niodes
15:14 RealBadAngel it looks so
15:14 RealBadAngel but i really need a single cube
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15:29 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YAURNIxIGQ​TrSH_OEV7-Rxz8ZdOp2_HsBvhEipfHo0E/viewform
15:29 rubenwardy Welcome to Minetest Academy. A Minetest mod designed by educators with a primary goal to improve education through engaging students in a virtual learning environment. I want to build ONE MAP (to start) with a trademark learning environment designed by teachers and students named "Minetest Academy". I need creative programmers, teachers, artists, and students to create a world that is conducive to collaboration, social learning, and foste
15:29 rubenwardy ring a place designed for creativity. We will need to start a server to collaborate. My first goal is to create an online manual-style website similar to the configurations found in this forum (Where are all of you!?! Sign-Up!)
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15:43 kahrl "Jordach, i need a few very basic objects, like stairs and full node" <-- proof that meshes are a lot harder to make than nodeboxes
15:44 VanessaE and which is why I said you can not EVER drop support for nodeboxes in the modding API
15:44 VanessaE convert them into meshes internally if you want
15:44 VanessaE but don't ever drop modding API support for them or you will rbeak so much shit it's not even funny
15:45 VanessaE break*
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15:47 Nerotic Sorry, weird crashy thingy.
15:51 pitriss VanessaE: Hi, I probably found bug in pipeworks. in flowing_logic.lua around line 81.. you should check value of facedir.. When you apply screwdriver to spigot, then it will crash server when facedir is higher than 3
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15:59 PNDyman is there a way to run minetest-server 0.4.10 on debian wheezy?
16:00 kilbith sure : $ minetest-server
16:01 kilbith ah sorry, still 0.3.x on wheezy
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16:02 ElectronLibre Download the sources, compile them with de dependencies and run minetestserver in ./bin/
16:02 PNDyman ok thanks
16:03 ElectronLibre You can found all the answers to your questions at http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
16:06 Krock *find
16:06 ElectronLibre *find sorry.
16:07 * ElectronLibre must read again what he has written 7 time before send it.
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16:34 ILoveGurochan Hi guys!
16:34 ILoveGurochan can anyone suggest a mod like craft-guide but that works with 4.10 please?
16:35 Calinou ILoveGurochan, 0.4.10* :P
16:35 ILoveGurochan Too much zeros :(
16:35 Krock ILoveGurochan, unified_inventory
16:35 Krock or inventory++
16:35 Jordach two taps of a membrane key isn't hard to do
16:36 ILoveGurochan Thanks krock
16:36 Krock np
16:36 ILoveGurochan gonna put lulzpack on date
16:36 Calinou Jordach, what if they have a mechanical keyboard with blue switches? 8)
16:37 Jordach then they're rich assholes who need to donate to OSS projects and not on luxuries :3
16:37 Calinou mechanical has its uses (even though it's a bit overrated: remember it's heavy and noisy)
16:39 ILoveGurochan Maybe i should've write just "last version of minetest"
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16:39 Jordach latest developer or stabl;e
16:40 ILoveGurochan Anyway it works,thanks :)
16:42 sfan5 PNDyman: compile from source to get the latest
16:45 rubenwardy "the version of Minetest which was las
16:45 rubenwardy damn]
16:46 rubenwardy "the version of Minetest for which there is a current Windows download on the downloads page of the minetest.net internet webpage."
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16:57 kaeza greetings
16:57 Calinou hi
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17:18 Jordach VanessaE, tinfoil hat ti,e
17:18 Calinou you need More Ores to craft tinfoil hats
17:18 Calinou else you can only have copperfoil hats, goldfoil hats, Mesefoil hats…
17:19 cg72 is mese a metal or metaliod
17:19 cg72 ?????????/
17:20 Calinou no idea
17:20 Calinou in Carbone, it makes wooden sound
17:22 Krock mese is like cheese, 40 millio years ago
17:22 Krock *million
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17:32 DusXMT I'd imagine it would be glass-like, since it can be broken into crystals
17:36 PNDyman I get database errors unless I run minetestserver as root, is this expected?
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17:45 PenguinDad PNDyman: this shouldn't happen
17:46 PNDyman Oh my fault, I built it as root and didn't fix permissions
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17:57 DusXMT PNDyman: But if you _run_ it as root (which you shouldn't do, if someone manages to crack the server software, you give the attacker 100% control over your computer), you should have full access to anything so badly set-up permissions shouldn't be a problem...
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18:11 PenguinDad TheCephalopod evolved into john_minetest!
18:20 * Calinou is making new 3D renders for wiki
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18:34 Johngreat hey
18:34 Johngreat hi
18:35 Johngreat minetest
18:35 Calinou_ hi Johngreat
18:36 Johngreat Have u been to Shadowzone's server before?
18:36 Johngreat i know nore has
18:37 Johngreat how do u change ur nickname?
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18:40 Johngreat *sigh*
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18:41 Krock ^imposs
18:41 Calinou the new, compressed block renders are in
18:41 Calinou on wiki
18:41 kaeza_ I wonder if schools/parents still teach the meaning of "patience"
18:42 Calinou BlockMen has uploaded ~75 KB renders, mine are 25 KB
18:42 Calinou same size (150²)
18:43 Krock !wiki compressed block render
18:43 MinetestBot No such page.
18:44 PenguinDad !wiki User:Krock
18:44 MinetestBot No such page.
18:44 PenguinDad :(
18:45 Krock !wiki Krock
18:45 MinetestBot No such page.
18:45 john_minetest kaeza_: True. I lurk on some channels for 12 hours or so, not getting any answer. 5 minutes shouldn't be a problem.
18:45 kaeza_ !wiki User:Krock
18:45 MinetestBot No such page.
18:45 Megaf_ !wikie Megaf
18:45 Megaf_ !wiki Megaf
18:45 MinetestBot No such page.
18:45 Krock kaeza, PenguinDad did the same aminute ago :P
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19:28 sfan5 kaeza_: y are u never online in tox?
19:28 kaeza_ sfan5:changed client to qTox. new id in signature
19:29 sfan5 you can keep your id
19:29 sfan5 anyway
19:29 sfan5 send me a friend request
19:29 kaeza_ I didn't?
19:29 sfan5 maybe you did
19:29 kaeza_ I'll do so again when I'm back home
19:29 sfan5 there was this request I accepted but accidentally removed again
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19:31 Megaf_ I wonder if my server as is today will run with only 256 MB of ram
19:32 * Megaf_ remebers that he is not online in tox eihter
19:32 Krock tux.
19:32 Megaf_ Fritigern: Do you have tox now?
19:32 Tux[Qyou] krock.
19:33 Krock qyou
19:33 Krock .
19:33 Tux[Qyou] krock the krock.
19:33 Calinou for Minetesting you'd be better off using Mumble
19:33 shadowzone What it tux?
19:34 blaise ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
19:34 sfan5 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡blaise
19:34 shadowzone Should I be running?
19:35 blaise sfan5: say what
19:35 blaise ?
19:35 sfan5 blaise: what???
19:35 * blaise feeds sfan5 some meow mix
19:35 * sfan5 meows a mix of meow
19:36 blaise I need Chicken!
19:36 blaise I need Liver!
19:36 blaise meow mix meow mix please deliver?
19:36 * Krock meows sfan5 mix
19:36 * blaise shakes the meow mix box for sfan5
19:37 * sfan5 meows at blaise
19:37 * blaise leaves sfan5 a bowl of meow mix
19:37 * Krock puts blaise and sfan5 into the meow mix
19:37 * blaise teleports to 0, 0, 0
19:38 Krock 0,0
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19:38 Krock ___
19:38 Krock eww LazyJ, you destroyed my smile
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19:38 Megaf_ LazyJ: Hi there
19:38 LazyJ Megaf_ ??
19:39 Megaf_ shadowzone: LazyJ john_minetest: I will do some tests with my server later on, will move it to a VPS in london
19:39 shadowzone Hi oOChainLynxOo, long time no see.
19:39 shadowzone Megaf_, okay got it.
19:39 oOChainLynxOo Definitely
19:39 Megaf_ I hope that a Xeon VPS would be faster than my ARM
19:39 * Krock meows at o0(ha!nLynx0o
19:39 * blaise wiggles Megaf_'s arm
19:39 shadowzone And if not you should try duckdns.
19:40 * oOChainLynxOo shakes cat food bag
19:40 * shadowzone meows
19:40 * oOChainLynxOo watches 473,394,389,234 cats fly out of nowhere
19:40 Krock How can you put a giraffe into a fridge?
19:40 shadowzone XD
19:40 NakedFury chopped up?
19:40 shadowzone Uh....
19:41 oOChainLynxOo Open the fridge, put the giraffe in and close the door
19:41 Krock +1  ^
19:41 Megaf_ oOChainLynxOo: that's it
19:41 oOChainLynxOo Lol
19:41 Krock And how can you put an elephant into a fridge=
19:41 ElectronLibre And how can you put a bear?
19:41 shadowzone Really really fast.
19:41 Krock *?
19:41 shadowzone And how can you put a ship in a fridge?
19:42 Calinou the elephant in the room
19:42 PenguinDad Use lzma on the elephant :P
19:42 oOChainLynxOo Open the fridge, take the giraffe out, put the elephant and close the door
19:42 Krock Open the fridge, take out the giraffe and put the elephant in. close the fridge
19:42 Krock damn those ninjas
19:42 oOChainLynxOo Ninja'd
19:42 oOChainLynxOo :3
19:42 ElectronLibre Compress the elephant to elephant.zip, open the fridge, take the girafe && cp elephant.zip ./fridge
19:42 oOChainLynxOo LOL
19:42 Krock PenguinDad, LZMA2
19:43 Megaf_ +1 > ElectronLibre
19:43 Krock -1 ElectronLibre, not cross-platform
19:43 ElectronLibre tar?
19:44 oOChainLynxOo XD
19:44 Krock "./fridge"
19:44 shadowzone +1 ElectronLibre
19:44 Krock <Megaf_>+1 > ElectronLibre
19:44 shadowzone running it like ./minetest
19:44 PenguinDad Krock: lzma2 is only a container format
19:44 Krock means +1 is better than ElectronLibre
19:44 Krock means, ElectronLibre is worse than +1
19:44 ElectronLibre Krock, that's the truth xD..
19:44 Krock k
19:45 cg72 selah?? why hun?
19:45 Krock PenguinDad, okkk
19:45 PenguinDad ElectronLibre $(add_one)
19:45 PenguinDad :D
19:45 shadowzone Look up.
19:45 shadowzone We're all being nuts.
19:45 shadowzone And I might get hyper.
19:45 oOChainLynxOo Lol
19:45 oOChainLynxOo And I had 3 cups of coffee last night and I'm still feeling it
19:46 Krock oOChainLynxOo, still full power or totally tired?
19:46 shadowzone I just had a pepsi.
19:46 oOChainLynxOo Full power dewd
19:46 Krock I just had some cookies.
19:46 jin_xi fanta shokata ftw
19:47 PenguinDad I can have three cups of coffee and I won't notice a difference lol
19:47 Krock PenguinDad, no wonder if a third is milk and sugar
19:49 oOChainLynxOo Lol
19:49 PenguinDad eee​w coffee with sugar and milk
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19:49 * sfan5 meows at oOChainLynxOo
19:49 * oOChainLynxOo shakes cat food bag
19:50 OldCoder How do I give somebody 5 pieces of white wool?
19:51 ElectronLibre ./give somebody wool:white 5
19:51 ElectronLibre (Without the . )
19:51 OldCoder Thank you!
19:51 oOChainLynxOo :D
19:52 PenguinDad /give somebody wool:white 5
19:52 OldCoder Yep
19:52 PenguinDad ^ ElectronLibre
19:52 OldCoder Thank you!
19:52 OldCoder She is pleased
19:52 OldCoder This seems to be a girl who wishes blankets for a bed
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19:54 OldCoder How do I give 5 diamond showcase of type diamonds:garden_block?
19:54 OldCoder /give bacon diamonds:garden_block:5 doesn't work
19:54 shadowzone without the : between garden_block and 5.
19:55 OldCoder Got it worked thanks
19:55 shadowzone Your welcome.
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20:01 Megaf_ "[20:44:17] <Krock> <Megaf_>+1 > ElectronLibre"
20:01 Megaf_ lmao
20:02 Megaf_ ElectronLibre: are you better than +1?
20:02 LazyJ Megaf_ VPS in London?
20:02 Megaf_ yep, a system that is not real located in that city witl those tall buses wider than USB
20:02 Megaf_ lol
20:02 OldCoder Sokomine, if you see this later, explain how to unprotect a house, please
20:03 RumiaGloop thank muchfords for the shamrock halp
20:03 ElectronLibre Megaf_, I don't think I am.
20:03 OldCoder I don't know if the girls are talking about Areas or other protection
20:03 OldCoder ShadowNinja, are you still in the game? One of the girls protected the wrong house and we need to unprotect. Is this via Areas?
20:03 OldCoder And does Areas support share?
20:03 * OldCoder is on an errand and will check back
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20:04 ShadowNinja I'm working on a private world now.  I'll try to help.
20:06 Megaf_ OldCoder: yep, select the area within the area then /add_owner AreaID Player Area Name
20:07 OldCoder Megaf_, thank you. AreaID PlayerName AreaName
20:07 OldCoder 3 parameters?
20:07 shadowzone Yep.
20:07 OldCoder And the original protector needs to do this? I can't, even as world owner?
20:07 Megaf_ OldCoder: and areaid is that number
20:07 shadowzone You can if you have the areas priv.
20:07 Megaf_ sometimes you can't
20:07 OldCoder Where does one find the AreaID and AreaName?
20:07 Megaf_ I hanve't figured out that yet
20:08 shadowzone OldCoder what server are you trying to figure out?
20:08 Megaf_ OldCoder: areaid is that number on the corner of the screen
20:08 OldCoder SilverCrab
20:08 shadowzone I can come and help you.
20:08 OldCoder Thank you, will you?
20:08 OldCoder minetest.org port 30019
20:08 Megaf_ OldCoder: areaname is the name you give to that area
20:08 OldCoder Returning there now
20:08 shadowzone Joining now.
20:10 Megaf_ I wish there was an easy way to add lots of skins to my server
20:10 DarkNekros Megaf_, which mod are you using?
20:10 OldCoder It is for 2D
20:10 Megaf_ DarkNekros: very good question
20:11 Megaf_ I have no idea
20:11 DarkNekros Megaf_, very good anwser :p
20:11 Megaf_ does that helps?
20:11 DarkNekros yes, it does
20:12 john_minetest zeg9's skin mod is the best one.
20:12 DarkNekros I use the mod 'skins' and what I did/do is to generate the skins in my personal computer and rsync them to the server later
20:12 DarkNekros john_minetest, +1
20:12 john_minetest and it should be possible to add new skins easily
20:13 DarkNekros this skin adds the possibility of download all the skins from a web db
20:14 OldCoder I've been fiddling with the skins mod will post some code later I'm curious about
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20:17 Megaf_ Sokomine: are you playing now?
20:17 Megaf_ richie is asking about you on my server
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20:19 Sokomine Megaf_: not right now
20:19 Megaf_ Sokomine: and do you know richie anyway?
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20:21 Calinou <DarkNekros> this skin adds the possibility of download all the skins from a web db
20:22 Calinou 95 % of skins suck thoug
20:22 Calinou +h
20:22 Calinou they clog up the list :(
20:22 Calinou which is hard and tedious to browse
20:22 Calinou the skin db should have purging every year or so
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20:26 shadowzone Hi est31.
20:27 shadowzone I think I may be wrong but I think I granted you interact on VE-Survival.
20:31 cg72 skin)db should support hires skins as well
20:31 shadowzone I added one of my skins to the skins DB.
20:32 cg72 nice
20:33 hisforever How do I trun a block vertically?
20:34 hisforever I know that a screwdriver is used for horantel
20:38 est31 hi shadowzone
20:38 shadowzone How are you?
20:39 est31 well, I've re-discovered MT.
20:39 est31 in the last time I'm mostly on goldrush
20:39 est31 you?
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20:41 shadowzone I am good.
20:43 est31 sometimes I get a segfault. I don't know how to reproduce, and I don't get a stacktrace. How can I make it print a stacktrace without causing valgrind to almost halt the game due to slowdown?
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20:44 shadowzone o.O
20:44 shadowzone I dunno.
20:44 VanessaE est31: run it under gdb
20:46 cg72 then after a crash  bt it
20:46 cg72 hi vanessa
20:46 VanessaE hi
20:46 est31 thx will try that
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20:48 est31 here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8502703/
20:50 hisforever Vanessa How do I use the screwdriver to Flip a bloch vertically?
20:50 est31 I keep the gdb live in case you need more info
20:51 VanessaE hisforever: you start by saying a magic incantation, sacrificing a goat to your favorite diety, then tearing your hair out :P
20:52 hisforever lol
20:52 shadowzone huh?
20:52 VanessaE hisforever: wield the screwdriver, shift-punch with it, and try using it while it says it's in mode 3
20:52 hisforever thats funney
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20:52 VanessaE shadowzone: translation:  the screwdriver in minetest is a pain in the ass to use in some cases
20:53 shadowzone Oh.
20:53 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone.
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20:53 hisforever ty I'll brb trying it
20:58 Sokomine Megaf_: yes, i've met a player named richie in the past on a server. i don't know if it's the same you're talking about
20:58 Sokomine VanessaE: there's that new version of the screwdriver that's said to be more practical
20:58 VanessaE oh?
21:00 Sokomine https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=9&amp;t=10047&amp;p=156767 i havn't checked it out yet, but there are reports from players who claim that it is easier to use
21:00 VanessaE OH FINALLY
21:04 Amaz It's much eaiser.
21:05 est31 if I compile with git is -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug default?
21:05 PenguinDad est31: Release is the default build type
21:05 Fritigern Megaf_: No, i don;t have tox, and i will not be pressured into getting it either. I have Skype and very happy to have it.
21:06 shadowzone Just tried it out.
21:06 shadowzone MUCH easier to use.
21:06 Fritigern I don't care. I'm not onterested.
21:06 Fritigern *Interested
21:06 shadowzone Not tox.
21:06 shadowzone The new screwdrivers.
21:07 Sokomine it does sound far more intuitive
21:07 shadowzone Yep.
21:08 Sokomine i've modified the screwdriver in my singleplayer world so that it rotates one further step only and outputs param2 for debugging purposes. on servers, having the screwdriver last longer would be good. they break so fast
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21:09 PenguinDad Imo screwdivers shouldn't break in creative mode
21:09 PenguinDad *drivers
21:10 Sokomine we might introduce a new variable: annoy_players. if it's set to a very low value, then it's like dreambuilder, and builders will be happy. if it's set to a high value, building tools such as the screwdriver will not last long, and players who build too much might get banned for disturbing the server by doing some building instead of the there-desired pvp...
21:10 shadowzone VanessaE, your needed on VE-FreeForAll.
21:10 hisforever My block of wood do not mover with the screw driver grrrr
21:10 Sokomine creative mode is annoying in itshelf...
21:11 Sokomine hisforever: perhaps they do not have facedir yet
21:11 hisforever What Sokomine?
21:13 Fritigern hisforever: try the screwdriver on stairs
21:14 hisforever that works but horzonally I need a veryical flip?
21:14 Fritigern Try using the screwdriver on a different side
21:14 hisforever want to flip the grain in a wood block
21:15 hisforever I did even on top of the wood
21:18 PenguinDad hisforever: wood blocks don't use facedir iirc
21:20 VanessaE Sokomine: this screwdriver is a LITTLE easier to use at least.
21:23 hisforever ok it will screw driver 1 turns it horizontal screw driver 3 flips vertical but none  turn woof
21:24 hisforever screw drivers can't turn wood blocks
21:24 VanessaE hisforever: that's because wood blocks simply can't be turned.
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21:25 VanessaE hisforever: they don't have the setting needed for it
21:25 hisforever ty vanessa I thought that was the case
21:25 hisforever God bless
21:26 Calinou est31, use bt full for full backtrace after crash
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21:26 VanessaE hisforever: no worries.  most of the blocks in the default game don't have that setting.  it's trivial to add it, though.
21:26 est31 I've pasted my backtrace. If you need it its on http://paste.ubuntu.com/8502703/
21:28 VanessaE est31:  file it as an issue
21:28 VanessaE est31: also you should do,   'bt full'
21:30 est31 I cant reproduce it with HEAD anymore
21:31 est31 still file?
21:32 VanessaE no
21:32 VanessaE not if you are sure you can't reproduce it anymore
21:33 est31 OK, When I can reproduce it with HEAD, I'll file.
21:39 VanessaE shadowzone: wtf is going on in there?
21:40 shadowzone In what?
21:40 shadowzone My head, not much right now.
21:40 VanessaE in inchra
21:40 VanessaE hah
21:40 shadowzone I dunno.
21:40 shadowzone I really don't know.
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22:17 Megaf_ Good night everyone
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22:31 shadowzone Night Megaf_.
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23:18 Fritigern I can;t figure out how Doyousketch2's Stained Glass mod hides itself from the creative inventory. I want them to show up (yes i do, my preference) but how?
23:19 VanessaE Fritigern: look for   not_in_creative_inventory = 1
23:19 VanessaE being added to groups
23:19 VanessaE (yes, it's that obvious ;) )
23:20 Fritigern I have, it's the first thing i have looked for.
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23:22 VanessaE hm
23:22 VanessaE the fork of it that I use it pretty straightforward
23:23 VanessaE function makenode(arg)
23:23 VanessaE .....
23:23 VanessaE groups = {snappy=2,cracky=3,oddly_breakable_by_hand=3, not_in_creative_inventory=1},
23:23 VanessaE end
23:24 Fritigern My version says "groups = {snappy=2,cracky=3,oddly_breakable_by_hand=3},"
23:24 VanessaE that's the only place in this fork where register_node() is ever called
23:24 Fritigern It's also version 1,2, which version is your fork based on?
23:25 VanessaE mine doesn't show a version, it's andersje's fork
23:25 VanessaE git@github.com:andersje/stained_glass.git
23:27 Fritigern BRB
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23:47 kersnert I installed minetest from apt (0.4.9) , created a world, quit and started the world with minetestserver. then i connected and played. i couldn't craft gunpowder so i downloaded from git and built 0.4.10-dev. I still can't craft gunpowder/tnt in dedicated server.  but when i start singleplayer /giveme tnt:tnt, that works fine. where should I be looking?
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