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00:00 cities Ok swiftkey is getting turned off
00:00 cities Powwow where the heck did that come from
00:00 cities That was bizarre
00:04 iqualfragile shadowzone: poor you, how do you make friends when homeschooled? do you at least participate in some activities?
00:05 cities A 12 year old knowledgeable enough to seek out minetest
00:06 iqualfragile cities: its father is at least a bit linux-obsessed
00:07 cities Oh
00:07 cities Well that would explain some
00:07 cities Why is it an it
00:08 shadowzone Well I have plenty of friends.
00:08 shadowzone I have all of you guys and I have about 15 irl friends.
00:08 iqualfragile cities: because its not 14 yet
00:09 iqualfragile shadowzone: i would doubt that, you most likely have 12 aquantices and like 2 friends
00:09 shadowzone You got me.
00:10 * shadowzone is afk
00:10 cities Why does being not 14 yet make one an it
00:11 iqualfragile cities: because i don't asing a sex or gender to people below age of consent
00:11 cities Ohh...
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00:11 cities Ok
00:12 VanessaE iqualfragile: do you refer to a child you've met in person as "it" when you can clearly ascertain their gender, then?
00:12 cities So when your child is born do you say it's an it??
00:12 iqualfragile VanessaE: actually, yes
00:12 VanessaE (assume a child born without any physical or mental abnormalities)
00:12 iqualfragile its "das kind" in german
00:12 cities That's kind of weird
00:12 VanessaE iqualfragile: I would refrain from that in the future if I were you - you are very likely to get assulted for that.
00:13 VanessaE assaulted*
00:13 iqualfragile VanessaE: wut?
00:13 iqualfragile why?
00:13 VanessaE because parents do NOT take too kindly to people calling their children "it" instead of appropriate gender pronouns
00:13 cities That's not normal and I would think parents wouldn't take kindly to their child being called an it
00:13 VanessaE hah
00:13 cities Wow you took my words
00:14 VanessaE talk about jinx, cities  :)
00:14 cities Jk
00:14 hisforever VanessaE Dose the Animal Mod work in your Dreambuilders Game? I can't seem to get them running.
00:14 VanessaE hisforever: it does work, yes, but I don't use it at present.  I may add it back in some time soon though
00:15 hisforever btw Vanessa Dreambuilder is the best game I've seen yew
00:15 cities Ios 8 has some keyboard bugs in landscape
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00:15 VanessaE iqualfragile: in many cultures, calling someone (child or otherwise) "it" is akin to equating that person to an inanimate object or an animal.
00:15 VanessaE thanks, hisforever  :)
00:15 cities Don't think it's working quite correctly
00:15 hisforever :)
00:17 hisforever Vanessa the reason I ask is that I'm not getting Error messages when Animals are actvated .
00:17 VanessaE hisforever: but they don't spawn, correct?
00:17 hisforever ok ty
00:17 iqualfragile the german word for girl "das mädchen" is not female, actually, its "das", still its common to make the gramatical mistake of saying "das mädchen … sie"
00:17 VanessaE hisforever: after you install the mod, you have to do  /mobf  and turn turn on "secondary spawning"
00:17 iqualfragile never really thought about that, to be honest
00:18 hisforever yes spawn is the word I needed
00:18 iqualfragile but this is getting faar faar off topic, lets just settle it with on the internet everybody is male untill prooven otherwise
00:18 VanessaE iqualfragile: I would take offense to that...
00:19 iqualfragile VanessaE: you are in prooven otherwise
00:19 VanessaE indeed so
00:19 VanessaE as is shadowzone.
00:19 hisforever I'll try that before I head to bed brb
00:19 iqualfragile no, why would the child be?
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00:19 VanessaE beee....cause I've known her for several months now?
00:19 shadowzone I'm a he?
00:20 shadowzone Since when?
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00:20 iqualfragile VanessaE: well, i have not
00:20 shadowzone I am a girl.
00:20 VanessaE iqualfragile: shadowzone a player from our Inchra server network, well known over there.
00:20 shadowzone I have proof on my YT channel.
00:20 shadowzone A little too well known if you ask me.
00:21 iqualfragile omg look red pandas! http://i.imgur.com/VS1rWcE.gif
00:21 iqualfragile we call them cat bears, which is kinda accurate
00:21 hisforever Would secondary spawning be /secondary spawing on?
00:23 VanessaE hisforever:  just type  /mobf   and turn it on in the menu that comes on
00:23 VanessaE comes up*
00:23 hisforever ok
00:24 VanessaE hisforever: be sure you also select which mobs you actually want, in that menu
00:24 VanessaE e.g. you can turn stuff on/off in there, like boombomb, etc.
00:24 Cylus iqualfragile: Red pandas look like large raccoons to me.
00:24 hisforever ok ty
00:25 iqualfragile Cylus: look at them in real life, katzenbären is an accurate descripiton
00:25 Cylus iqualfragile: I don't think I have any in my area to look at.
00:26 iqualfragile Cylus: not even zoos?
00:26 Cylus iqualfragile: Huh .... I'm not even sure I have a zoo in my area .... maybe I do ....
00:26 Cylus Keep in mind that I'm a pedestrian. I can't venture out too far.
00:27 * Fritigern_AFK is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life)
00:27 Cylus Fritigern_AFK: Ha ha, nice.
00:28 hisforever -I- invalad comand /modf this is what comes up?
00:28 iqualfragile moBf
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00:28 iqualfragile B
00:29 iqualfragile as in Breasts
00:29 iqualfragile hello shadowzone :D
00:29 hisforever Sorry to be a pain lol
00:29 selah Hi.
00:29 iqualfragile why did you change your name?
00:29 selah We had a brown out.
00:29 iqualfragile brown?
00:29 selah Our power cut for a second.
00:29 iqualfragile and you don't seem to be using sasl
00:29 iqualfragile did the settings not save?
00:29 selah Not with the account.
00:29 selah This one isn't registered.
00:30 iqualfragile what does it even mean?
00:30 Fritigern_AFK Shado, let me get you up to speed about what i just said : [17:27:27] Fritigern_AFK is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life)
00:30 Fritigern_AFK Selah is a point of rest in a psalm
00:30 selah Yep.
00:31 selah And my real name
00:31 VanessaE iqualfragile:  "brownout" is when the mains voltage sags low enough to shut things like computers down, but without the power actually cutting off entirely (blackout).
00:31 iqualfragile selah: NO NO NO
00:31 shadowzone What?
00:31 iqualfragile don't put your real name on the internet
00:31 shadowzone It's only my first name/
00:31 shadowzone And no one can get much from that.
00:31 hisforever I'll try to fix it tomorrow I'm going to hit the bed God bless everyone
00:31 VanessaE shadowzone: you need you buy a UPS.  they aren't expensive and will prevent that in the future.
00:31 shadowzone Night.
00:31 oOChainLynxOo God bless, hisforever
00:32 VanessaE night, hisforever
00:32 iqualfragile VanessaE: well, the batteries are quite expensive
00:32 shadowzone VanessaE, yeah, oh well.
00:32 iqualfragile hisforever: im offended by the god bless
00:32 iqualfragile damn, was just about to start a flamewar
00:32 oOChainLynxOo Suck it up lel
00:32 oOChainLynxOo xD
00:32 oOChainLynxOo Flamewart
00:32 oOChainLynxOo War*
00:32 oOChainLynxOo Almost left Minetest because of one
00:32 Fritigern_AFK shadowzone: If you get frequent brownouts, you may want to invest in a UPS, it is designed to catch them and keep your PC running for about 5-15 minutes (depending on the type and wattage of the UPS)
00:32 oOChainLynxOo For this reason
00:32 shadowzone I might have to go tomorrow.
00:33 shadowzone No it's our whole house power.
00:33 VanessaE shadowzone: that's okay, you only need it for your PC.
00:33 shadowzone That's why I love laptops.
00:33 iqualfragile shadowzone: pc is love, pc is life!
00:34 VanessaE shadowzone: think of it like an oversized laptop battery that works on any PC.
00:34 Fritigern_AFK Yes, but with a UPS between the outlet and your PC, your PC would keep running when the rest of the house's appliances are out cold
00:34 Cylus Sorry iqualfragile, my real name is on the Internet as well.
00:34 shadowzone VanessaE, I'll talk to my dad about it.
00:34 shadowzone Maybe for my server machine.
00:34 iqualfragile shadowzone: you can connect multiple devices to a single ups
00:34 VanessaE shadowzone: I had to re-install my OS a couple weeks ago because of that (unplanned power cut, loose cord).
00:34 VanessaE it corrupted my file system
00:34 iqualfragile VanessaE: how? did you mount nobarrier?
00:35 shadowzone Oh/
00:35 shadowzone Ouch!
00:35 Fritigern_AFK I like the UPS'es that APC makes,. they are very good
00:35 VanessaE iqualfragile: it smashed the kernel or the video driver in the process, not sure which.  it was easier to wipe the OS partition and re-install.
00:35 Fritigern_AFK Wish i still had one
00:36 iqualfragile http://xkcd.com/861/
00:36 Cylus Oh, I hate having to reinstall the system. Though when I have to do it, it's usually my own fault. I tend to break things.
00:36 VanessaE /home was unaffected, and I keep backups, so it was no big deal
00:36 iqualfragile Fritigern_AFK: yes, but not cheap
00:36 iqualfragile Cylus: i actually like reinstalling the system
00:36 Cylus iqualfragile: Why is that?
00:36 iqualfragile it purges your system of cruft
00:36 Fritigern_AFK No, but if you want cheap, then don;t even start running a server
00:37 Cylus It takes hours and leaves youy without a working computer during that time.
00:37 iqualfragile and all the strange libs you one day installed to make that one software from 1990 you downloaded run
00:37 iqualfragile Cylus: my record are 8 minutes
00:37 VanessaE Cylus: I got smart a while back and scripted it. :)
00:37 Cylus Cruft is usually why I have to reinstall. But if I was better at this, I wouldn't e leaving cruft.
00:37 iqualfragile but not for arch, arch takes a bit longer
00:37 VanessaE because I'm constantly breaking it :P
00:38 Cylus VanessaE: Oh, sweet. That must be nice. Just set it up to go, then head off to work while you wait ....
00:38 VanessaE Cylus: almost so, yes; I have to answer a couple of prompts
00:38 VanessaE (msttfcorefonts for example)
00:39 Cylus Meh. I don't need those. I just need stuff from Debian main.
00:39 VanessaE I think the license for that ^^^ and choosing a display manager (even though I always leave it at lightdm), and always telling it no I don't wanna futz with lirc or whatever it was called.
00:40 Cylus VanessaE: Which system has you choose a display manager?
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00:40 VanessaE Cylus: I install Xubuntu but I also pull in components from gnome and kde, so I end up with prompts for either kdm or gdm (I forget which)
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00:42 Cylus VanessaE: Ah, got it. It's a bit of a pain how some of those components pull in unwanted packages. For example, I dare not touch LXDE, because it pulls in a package (I'm not even sure which one) that breaks the notification system pretty badly.
00:42 VanessaE jeez
00:43 Cylus Though that was another distro, come to think of it. I haven't tried it on my current one. I tend to distro surf a bit.
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00:57 paramat =P still learning github ... once i have created a new branch in a repo at github, do i use 'git clone' to transfer the branch info into my local repo?
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01:01 VanessaE yup I think so
01:01 VanessaE if it doesn't work, look up "remote tracking branch"
01:02 VanessaE (because at that point it becomes a slight pain in the ass until you get the right command so that you can track the branch properly)
01:02 VanessaE you forked someone else's repo and now you want to clone your fork right?
01:06 paramat i forked minetest game, created a new branch ready for making a pull request
01:07 paramat thanks
01:08 VanessaE yep, that should work then
01:20 kahrl VanessaE: I hate those prompts during apt-get install :P
01:20 kahrl I just want to walk away from the computer and enjoy my life, not sit while it's installing
01:20 kahrl (so I usually export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive)
01:24 jin_xi http://youtu.be/Ep5KJ3aUGFk moar particles colliding... in some ways
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02:17 Fritigern_AFK paramat: Use git glone <uri> <target_dir>, and use git checkout <branch> to switch branches
02:18 paramat thanks
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02:21 Fritigern_AFK From one git noob to another: you're welcome ;-)
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02:22 Fritigern_AFK I sometimes switch branches on the repo of SingularityViewer, that's how i know
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02:57 Zeno` Fritigern_AFK, do you have a github account?
03:01 Fritigern_AFK I do, but there's nothing Minetest related. In fact, all there is are outdated SingularityViewer sources.
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03:02 Fritigern_AFK But, Zeno`, if you still want to have a looksee: https://github.com/Fritigern
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03:03 Zeno` Oh, I like your avatar
03:03 VanessaE whose?
03:03 Zeno` Fritigern's
03:04 Zeno` Not as nice as mine, but still good
03:05 Fritigern_AFK Zeno`: I just set it. I realized that i still hadn't done it so i did it just before pasting you the URL :-)
03:05 Zeno` :)
03:05 Zeno` I've seen it before somewhere
03:06 Zeno` https://avatars3.githubusercont​ent.com/u/5899883?v=2&amp;s=460
03:06 Zeno` That's my photo
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03:52 ShadowNinja Sokomine: "/legacy_load_areas 0" with owners.tbl (or whatever the NO filename is) in the world path is all that's needed.
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03:58 ShadowNinja Sokomine: I've got a old copy of redcrab's owners.tbl if you need it.
04:11 Sokomine ShadowNinja: thanks. i've discovered the command you've implemented for converting the file, and so far it seems to work fine
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04:54 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder, Brooklyn needs you
04:54 OldCoder R
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05:53 OldCoder VanessaE, awake? Probably not. sfan5, I need to merge old and new defaults. To get rid of unknown goldblock nodes, just copy the register_node code and the png file? RealBadAngel?
05:54 VanessaE I am here
05:54 OldCoder See question
05:54 OldCoder Sokomine had me revert to old default, but need two blocks from new one
05:54 OldCoder Just copy register_node code and png files?
05:56 OldCoder Looks easy
06:03 VanessaE well I was here.  I'm off to bed now.
06:04 VanessaE better talk to Sokomine about that :)
06:04 VanessaE night
06:04 OldCoder VanessaE, it is fixed
06:04 OldCoder Check out the world in the morning
06:04 OldCoder It's getting good
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06:40 sol_invictus I wonder, is player:hud_change(id, "text", "new value") broken?
06:40 sol_invictus every time I try doing this text becomes black
06:41 sol_invictus oops, no
06:42 sol_invictus I forgot to quote stat name
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07:03 sfan5 OldCoder: still need me?
07:04 OldCoder sfan5, no; I think I've got the changes done
07:04 OldCoder SilverCrab has turned out well
07:04 OldCoder Check it out
07:04 OldCoder minetest.org port 30019
07:04 OldCoder I had to merge old and new defaults, etc.
07:04 OldCoder Still some missing blocks
07:04 * sfan5 starts minetest
07:04 OldCoder But a lot of nice structures
07:11 hmmmm jesus christ, OldCoder do you not have a job?
07:11 OldCoder hmmmm, ?
07:11 Zeno` lol
07:12 OldCoder hmmmm, if that is your way of thanking me for reviving RedCrab, you're welcome
07:13 OldCoder And, for what it's worth, one startup has more or less shut down and I need to decide about moving to another in Texas
07:13 OldCoder Thank you for your concern
07:13 OldCoder
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07:16 Krock !up minetest.ntdll.net
07:16 MinetestBot minetest.ntdll.net:30000 is up (535ms)
07:16 Krock <3 MinetestBot
07:16 MinetestBot <3 Krock
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07:21 oOChainLynxOo Well I'm out for the night
07:21 OldCoder Thought you were asleep
07:21 OldCoder o/
07:22 OldCoder The world looks good
07:22 oOChainLynxOo Lol
07:22 oOChainLynxOo Excellent
07:22 oOChainLynxOo Good night all
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07:35 sfan5 OldCoder: https://mediacru.sh/QedeOde7qkBX
07:36 OldCoder R
07:37 OldCoder What is it?
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07:37 OldCoder Ah
07:37 sfan5 a tower on the redcrab server
07:37 sfan5 it only seems to go to 3000 nodes on your copy though
07:37 OldCoder That is tall
07:37 OldCoder We can rebuild it
07:38 OldCoder sfan5, RedCrab is dead
07:38 OldCoder Most likely
07:38 OldCoder It's good the new copy exists at all
07:38 sfan5 what about the griefed copy you were talking about?
07:38 sfan5 yeah, 1 copy is always better than no copy
07:38 OldCoder The griefed copy is apparently very old
07:39 OldCoder Vanessa or Jakey told me, useless
07:39 sfan5 D:
07:39 OldCoder Do not D:
07:39 OldCoder We have rescued almost all of the world
07:39 OldCoder And have tidied up the mods to a large extent
07:39 * OldCoder is quite pleased
07:40 OldCoder We've got the Walmart, the greenhouse in the sky, the giant raspberry, the tallest stairs in the world, the hotel, etc.
07:40 sfan5 if something's missing I still have a small part of redcrabs world in my ubuntu backup
07:40 OldCoder Feel free to graft it in if it's useful
07:41 OldCoder You know, all the lava fountains seem unsafe
07:42 OldCoder Is there supposed to be so much lava?
07:42 sfan5 I don't know much about the buildings on redcrabs server
07:42 sfan5 VanessaE might be the person you want to ask
07:42 OldCoder kk
07:42 OldCoder Anyway, that's it
07:44 OldCoder Whoa. A whole rooftop made of lava.
07:45 Zeno` Nice work OldCoder
07:46 OldCoder Oh, you visited?
07:46 OldCoder Check it out
07:46 Zeno` I have a couple of times. Will do so again shortly
07:47 OldCoder Hm. Here's a store that sells "houses boats castles stuffs and more"
07:47 Zeno` it's not 30019 anymore?
07:48 Zeno` weird.. working now
07:48 OldCoder It's 30019
07:48 OldCoder I've restarted a few times but up for half an hour or so now
07:48 OldCoder Oh, the unknown item
07:48 OldCoder is a landrush thing
07:48 OldCoder I'll edit it out later
07:49 Zeno` ahh ok
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08:24 burli Hi there
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08:24 burli I'm new to minetest and I like it. But I can't fly
08:25 ElectronLibre (Press K once with the fly privilege :D)
08:25 burli I know, but does'nt work
08:25 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening] everyone.
08:26 ElectronLibre Ok, can you type /privs and give me the list of your privileges?
08:27 burli no fly priv
08:28 ElectronLibre You aren't on a local server I suppose.
08:28 burli interact, teleport, shout, settime, bring, basic_privs, password, ban, home, server, kick, rollback, privs, give
08:28 ElectronLibre Ok, you have just to type /grant burli fly .
08:28 burli I just run singleplayer
08:28 ElectronLibre Ok, /grant singleplayer all so.
08:28 ElectronLibre And you will get all the privileges, including fly :).
08:30 burli great, thx
08:30 burli forgot to use /grant
08:30 burli *rolleyes*
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08:31 ElectronLibre Everything is better when /grant command is entered ^^.
08:31 burli But how can I make this priv permament? I try to add free_move = true in minetest.conf
08:31 burli also default_privs = fly
08:32 ElectronLibre It's impossible :/... In singleplayer mod you join the world when the server start only with interact, shout and privs, which is hidden..
08:33 ElectronLibre In minetest.conf it's for Server options. You can run a server without making it public and you will be able to use your nickname instead of singleplayer, and when you are granted it's saved after server's shutting down :).
08:33 burli Is it possible to find Bones? I died and resurrect, but I could'nt find my old bones
08:34 ElectronLibre Hmm, was your inventory empty?
08:34 burli no
08:35 burli I mined some minerals and other stuff and my bones should be at the exit of a cave, but I could'nt find the cave again
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08:37 ElectronLibre Ok.. The only way to find them is to find where you died... If you have not restarted the server since you died, you can fly and press R to see every chunck loaded. If you explore every of them you will be able to find them. Or you can see it in the logs by looking for "player singleplayer have lost X hp" or a similar message.
08:38 ElectronLibre Did you build or dig nodes or restart the server since you died?
08:39 burli I restart the game
08:40 ElectronLibre Don't restart the server, that will add lines to your debug.txt log file and make the search more difficult (If you did it it's not a problem..).
08:41 burli My bones are still there?
08:41 ElectronLibre Yes.
08:41 ElectronLibre But now there is a lot of lines after the die message with the location of your bones ^^"...
08:41 burli Ok
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08:43 ElectronLibre Just open debug.txt file with leafpad or notepad.. hm.. not notepad.. and then start searching for "player singleplayer have lost " or a similar message.
08:43 burli If someone can tell me the "die" message in the log i will be able to find it
08:43 * ElectronLibre try to remember.
08:44 burli Is the log size limited?
08:45 ElectronLibre No, but when your hard drive is full you know that it's time to clean the debug.txt file ^^...
08:45 burli No, just 1.4MB
08:45 * ElectronLibre have ever seen bigger.
08:46 ElectronLibre *has
08:46 burli how can I get my current coordinates?
08:47 * ElectronLibre started MT to kill him and see the message but MT crashed >_>... He likes sid..
08:47 ElectronLibre By pressing F5 it's in the top of the screen.
08:48 burli great, thx
08:48 burli brb
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08:48 Krock \o/ Amaz ing
08:51 * ElectronLibre cratered.
08:52 ElectronLibre No logs o.o ...
08:53 burli damn
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08:53 ElectronLibre I just hope you have some logs...
08:57 ElectronLibre I try with an old version to see the message.
08:59 Krock Minetest has 1026 correctly formattedforum threads in the forums
09:00 Krock ^mods
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09:01 burli wtf!! A tree makes Damage through glass o.o
09:01 ElectronLibre A tree makes damages? °_°
09:01 PenguinDad Krock: only 311 left to go
09:01 Krock tree monsters
09:02 Krock burli, I know this. their attack/damage range is more than 1 node (1m)
09:02 ElectronLibre Ah, ok.. yes burli if they are close to you they can damage you through nodes.
09:03 Krock <3 parts in the minetest codes like "m_dirty = true;"
09:03 burli ah, damn. Nearly died in my house o.o
09:04 burli Ok, just need to find my bones :-D
09:05 ElectronLibre burli, try to search in your minetest.conf "singleplayer damaged by", it's the begining of the message.
09:06 burli you mean debug.txt
09:06 burli I'm searching
09:06 ElectronLibre *debug.txt sorry.
09:06 Amaz In minetest.conf XD
09:06 burli singleplayer, damage 2 hp, health now 0 hp
09:07 burli thats the die message, I guess
09:07 ElectronLibre The only way I found to see the message is use 0.4.10 started from DOS command line environnement, horrible >_>...
09:07 Amaz Yeah.
09:07 ElectronLibre Yes :D
09:07 ElectronLibre And the is the location at the right.
09:07 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: you use dos?
09:08 burli wtf?? I did'nt die 65 times
09:09 burli ah, these messages are for critters
09:09 ElectronLibre On an other computer I have Win8 and DOS is the only thing that remind me Linux xD.. No it's just that when I start minetest the text window diseappear so I want to keep it open by starting it with DOS. I added minetest path to the %PATH% so it's very easy.
09:10 Amaz s/an other/another
09:10 Amaz :P
09:10 ElectronLibre Thank you ^^"...
09:10 * PenguinDad hands Amaz a /
09:10 Amaz :P
09:11 ElectronLibre I can't recognize if it's another or an other.. I will probably learn it soon.
09:12 * Krock hands PenguinDad a o/
09:13 * PenguinDad hands Krock a hoove
09:13 * Krock takes it and cooks it
09:13 Amaz ElectronLibre, most of the time it's another... I can't think of anywhere where it would be an other...
09:13 * Krock adds tutorial world to his future builds
09:14 Amaz :
09:14 Amaz *:D
09:14 ElectronLibre Ok, but in US english or UK english, or both?
09:14 Amaz Why do the enter and backspace keys have to be so close together?!?!
09:14 Amaz I presume both, but I only know about UK English...
09:14 PenguinDad tutorial.world.nice? ? ":D" : ":("
09:14 Krock ^ cuz life isn't a pony farm
09:15 Krock PenguinDad, parse error at ' ? '
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09:15 ElectronLibre So burli did you find the last "player singleplayer damaged by"? Are you going to the written location?
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09:16 burli ElectronLibre, no. It's not that easy to find
09:16 PenguinDad Krock: y u no ternary operator?
09:17 ElectronLibre burli, did you try to start search at the end of the file, from the end to the top?
09:17 ElectronLibre *begining
09:19 burli find a better way. "singleplayer respawns at"
09:19 ElectronLibre Hum, yes, easier way xD...
09:21 Krock PenguinDad, cuz u already '?' there, so no 2nd need
09:22 PenguinDad Krock: that first ? belonged to the function
09:22 ElectronLibre But burli, start from the end to the begining if you can, it's very easy by this way to find the last time you died. :)
09:22 Krock PenguinDad, k.
09:23 Megaf Morning Amaz ElectronLibre Krock PenguinDad
09:23 Megaf How are things?
09:23 Amaz Fine.
09:24 PenguinDad Hey Megaf
09:24 Krock liek yesterday
09:24 ElectronLibre As usual : boring, and you?
09:24 * Krock waves at Megaf
09:25 Megaf so I was compiling minetest client and server on a really slow board, I left it compiling overnight and today when I check the status I read this.
09:25 Megaf [ 14%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.d​ir/script/lua_api/l_item.cpp.o
09:25 Megaf c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
09:25 ElectronLibre O_O
09:25 PenguinDad lol
09:26 Krock it built l_item.cpp file for me
09:26 Megaf And then I realized that I ran a make -j 4 on a single core with only 256 MB of ram
09:26 Krock *fine
09:26 ElectronLibre Megaf : try -j2 ^^...
09:26 Megaf so it basicaly ran ou of ram
09:26 Megaf out*
09:26 Krock ElectronLibre, lel. 2 cores for a singlecore? :P
09:27 Megaf yep, I'm trying with -j 2 now
09:27 PenguinDad Megaf: next time without the -j ;)
09:27 * Megaf runs a make clean
09:27 * Krock compiles without -j just now
09:27 Megaf clear*
09:27 Megaf clean**
09:28 Megaf ok, here we go
09:29 Megaf 0% done!
09:29 ElectronLibre I tried a month ago to compile with a very old computer, and around 25% he sent a shutdown -h now message because the processor was too hot and he shuted down O_o...
09:29 ElectronLibre :D
09:29 Megaf lol
09:29 Megaf hm, I think -j 2 i faster
09:29 Krock ElectronLibre, nothing dramatic if you compile incremental
09:30 * PenguinDad never compiles incrementally
09:30 ElectronLibre With a 2 cores and around 500Mo of RAM it takes around 30min..
09:30 Megaf Krock: sometimes incremental compiling can run into problems
09:30 Zeno` I never compile in the source tree
09:30 Krock I hate json or whatever breaks the incremental linking :(
09:30 sol_invictus any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eihXTL7i
09:30 Megaf ElectronLibre: that's slower than my ODroid U3 quad core ARM
09:30 Megaf much slower
09:30 Krock Megaf, yeah. I noticed recently
09:30 ElectronLibre I just types make -j2 and around 20 minutes he crashed xD.. Yes thi is an old computer too..
09:30 PenguinDad Krock: JSON is still better than XML
09:30 Megaf it takes about 3 minutes to compile minetestserver on my ODroid
09:31 Krock PenguinDad, yeah it is.. but the stuff breaks the incremental linking
09:31 Zeno` -j8 ftw
09:31 PenguinDad -j1337 isn't awesome
09:31 Krock param  /p:Configuration=Release ftw
09:32 ElectronLibre sol_invictus, which program gave you this error message?
09:32 sol_invictus minetestserver
09:32 ElectronLibre Ok o_o..
09:32 ElectronLibre Minetest-dev server?
09:32 Krock sol_invictus, looks like strlen.s is missing?
09:32 sol_invictus yes, dev
09:33 Krock lol fail. something else is missing
09:33 ElectronLibre I suppose it's a lua library, for the strlen function O_o...
09:33 Krock oops not json. jthread
09:33 sol_invictus I get segfaults every few hours on dev version
09:34 sol_invictus and now seems like I managed to reproduce segfault from lua
09:34 ElectronLibre O_o.. Ok.. "Did you try to turn it off and on again?" xD..
09:35 Megaf That moment when you are happy because there's people playing in your server early morning and at the same time sad because you want to turn it off to backup things and update it
09:35 Megaf !server Megaf
09:35 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1672ms
09:36 ElectronLibre The only way to fix this, I suppose, is to download the missing library and put it in its directory...
09:38 sol_invictus which library is missing exactly?
09:39 ElectronLibre If it's a library, strlen.s . Anyway it's strlen.s which is missing, so just try to find it on the web..
09:40 Krock !server plat
09:40 MinetestBot Krock: Krock's Ultimative Platform | 62.203.234.241 | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 33ms
09:40 * Krock slaps Megaf with 1672 / 33
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09:41 ElectronLibre There is also less clients on your server Krock.
09:41 Krock ElectronLibre, yeha. full of zeros
09:42 ElectronLibre I would be very happy to go to your server but I doubt that I will stay a long time...
09:43 sol_invictus aha, turn it off more often, Krock
09:43 PenguinDad !server just
09:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 31/78, 14/31 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 48ms
09:43 Krock sol_invictus, oke.
09:45 sol_invictus nah, I'm actually sorry that you can't run it 24/7, I wouldn't leave otherwise
09:53 sol_invictus I figured out what method causes segfoult
09:53 sol_invictus segfault*
09:54 * Krock gives sol a cookie
09:54 sol_invictus player:hud_change( id, 'text', 'long text' )
09:54 * sol_invictus noms it
10:04 sol_invictus Krock, I seem to know why this HUD goes haywire sometimes
10:04 sol_invictus have you looked at hud.lua in landrush mod?
10:05 PenguinDad Such hud much long very segfault wow
10:05 sol_invictus lol
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10:06 sol_invictus Krock, right now I'm referring missing health bar and text becoming black
10:07 sol_invictus this thing happens when some mod wrongly changes the hud
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10:08 Megaf lol Krock
10:10 Megaf [ 25%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/content_mapnode.cpp.o
10:10 Megaf one hour to go!
10:12 sol_invictus how old is your machine Megaf?
10:12 Megaf one or two years old
10:12 Megaf sol_invictus: it's a raspberry pi:)
10:13 Amaz XD
10:14 sol_invictus jeez
10:14 sol_invictus Megaf, have you tried enabling swap?
10:14 Megaf sol_invictus: no need for swap
10:14 sol_invictus no, you need to stop crashes
10:15 sol_invictus at least few hundred mb
10:18 Krock Megaf, mine is from 2006/7 .. uhm about 8 years old and takes 25 minutes to compile :)
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10:19 Zeno` [100%] Built target minetestserver
10:19 Megaf 30% here
10:19 Zeno` [100%] Built target minetest
10:19 Zeno` real    0m1.079s
10:19 Megaf at the end we will see how long it take
10:20 Megaf Zeno`: was that after a make clean?
10:20 Zeno` yes
10:20 Megaf one second?
10:20 Zeno` yep
10:20 Megaf SSD?
10:20 Zeno` cope
10:20 Zeno` nope*
10:20 Zeno` $ make clean; time make -j8 > /dev/null
10:20 Zeno` real    0m0.977s
10:21 PenguinDad Zeno`: what cpu?
10:21 Zeno` model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
10:22 Megaf ok, let me get the latest minetest and try here
10:22 Megaf HERE=my old desktop at my old home
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10:25 Zeno` The only thing that takes a long time to compile is Qt (especially with webkit)
10:26 Zeno` I have 7000 bogomips :/ :3
10:27 Zeno` thing is I still sometimes get <20 fps on minetest
10:27 sol_invictus only 4140 \:
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10:28 PenguinDad sol_invictus: bogomips only tells you how good your processor is at doing nothing
10:28 sol_invictus yep, I know
10:28 sol_invictus but it's not a useless meter
10:29 sol_invictus my notebook has higher bogomips and it actually performs better in many things
10:30 Megaf bogomips: 6428.36
10:31 Megaf here
10:31 Megaf without overclock
10:31 Megaf that's my Phenom II x4 955 BE at 3,2 GHz
10:31 Zeno` PenguinDad, that's correct!
10:31 Megaf model name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
10:31 PenguinDad bogomips : 6628.87
10:31 Zeno` my computer is very good at doing nothing
10:32 Megaf so is mine
10:32 Zeno` heh
10:32 PenguinDad model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
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10:32 Megaf lets see how long does my x4 takes to build irrlicht
10:32 Amaz real 6m38.661s user 9m29.099s Time for building Minetest,]
10:33 Megaf real0m30.128s
10:33 Megaf to build irrlicht
10:33 Amaz How do you find out the bogomips?
10:33 Zeno` this could be a new useless benchmark!
10:33 sol_invictus lscpu
10:33 PenguinDad Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo
10:33 ElectronLibre The compilation battle is started!
10:33 Megaf Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Bogomips
10:34 Megaf Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep bogomips
10:34 Megaf one of them
10:34 Amaz bogomips: 5424.43
10:34 sol_invictus Megaf, better cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i bogomips
10:34 Megaf ==== Successfully built LuaJIT 2.0.3 ====
10:34 Megaf real0m9.304s
10:35 Zeno` Megaf is it possible to cross compile targeting the rPI?
10:35 Zeno` Seems like if it was you'd save some time
10:36 Zeno` I've been meaning to get one of those things
10:36 DusXMT Zeno`: Should definitely be, but you need to build yourself a toolchain for that
10:36 Zeno` DusXMT, yeah, that's the tedious part
10:36 PenguinDad real 1m0.394s for building minetest
10:37 Amaz O.o
10:38 Megaf 37% on my Raspberry Pi
10:38 * ElectronLibre try to compile too.
10:39 Zeno` everybody is compiling O.O
10:39 * DusXMT should try compiling on his Pentium 3, if only he wasn't lazy
10:39 ElectronLibre Yes, it's the compilation awards xD
10:39 Zeno` haha
10:39 PenguinDad "real 0m27.123s" :>
10:40 Megaf [100%] Built target minetest
10:40 Megaf real2m5.040s
10:40 Zeno` Megaf, is that with -j4?
10:40 ElectronLibre Compilation started for MT sources from github.com with -j4 .
10:40 Megaf PenguinDad: so your two core extra makes lots of difference
10:40 Megaf Zeno`: yep
10:40 Zeno` interesting
10:40 Megaf cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=Off -DIRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR=../1.8/
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10:41 PenguinDad Megaf: the second one was with tweaked CFLAGS
10:41 Megaf hm
10:42 Megaf I wonder how could we make gcc use the whole power of our CPUs
10:42 Zeno` try -j8 anyway :)
10:42 PenguinDad -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" makes compiling much faster
10:42 Zeno` or at least -j6
10:42 Zeno` no optimisation? hehe
10:42 Megaf I mean, our CPU have lots of interesting stuff
10:42 Megaf flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save
10:43 Megaf it can do a lot via haardware
10:43 Zeno` your CPU has special instructions for minetest ABMs?
10:43 Zeno` That's cool
10:43 PenguinDad lol
10:43 Megaf lol
10:45 Megaf some instruction that could be used are sse4a and 3dnow
10:45 Megaf exclusive AMD instructions
10:46 PenguinDad Megaf: how about -march=native?
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10:46 Megaf PenguinDad: that -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None
10:46 Megaf with that it wont build anything playiable, would it?
10:46 * Jordach purrs at asie
10:46 sfan5 no
10:47 Megaf PenguinDad: with your flag it was slower
10:47 Megaf real2m2.263s
10:47 sfan5 CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None builds a debug build
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10:53 iqualfragile genious idea: we should put the minetest article on simple english
10:53 iqualfragile it would be so much fun to read
10:54 Amaz What's "simple english"?
10:54 Jordach ELI5
10:55 iqualfragile Amaz: english witht 850-1500 words and almost no gramar
10:55 iqualfragile http://simple.wikipedia.org
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10:55 iqualfragile http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi​kipedia:Examples_of_simpler_English
10:55 Amaz XD
10:56 Amaz Nice!
10:57 iqualfragile sb should symlink murica.wikipedia.org to simple.wikipedia.org :D
10:58 PenguinDad xD
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11:06 * Krock rubbs the duck
11:07 Megaf 51% on my raspberry!
11:07 iqualfragile Megaf: 51% of what?
11:07 iqualfragile minetest compile?
11:08 Krock ^ yup.
11:09 iqualfragile you could crosscompile
11:10 DusXMT iqualfragile: 'cause that's fun to do
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11:20 * rubberduck krocks the dile
11:22 ElectronLibre :compilation_finished:
11:23 iqualfragile ElectronLibre: but does it blend?
11:25 ElectronLibre Hmm..
11:25 * ElectronLibre verify
11:25 ElectronLibre $blend minetest ==> Yes, it blends!
11:26 * ElectronLibre should create a program that answer if it blends or not xD..
11:29 Megaf Oh no! An error during the compilation!
11:30 ElectronLibre Which one?
11:30 Megaf I give up
11:30 Megaf minetest and irrlight are not easily portable, bad bad design
11:30 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/plain/124457
11:31 PenguinDad *irrlicht
11:31 ElectronLibre :/
11:31 kilbith Megaf : finally entered in a MT world, with OpenGL : <1FPS :/
11:32 kilbith I can't wait for MT + OpenGL ES...
11:32 Megaf kilbith: but using the precompiled minetest right?
11:32 kilbith yes
11:32 Megaf Im having a hard time compiling minetest here
11:32 kilbith jessie repo
11:32 Megaf it crashed at 51%
11:33 Megaf OpenGL ES it's a pain to make it work in irrlicht
11:33 PenguinDad kilbith: minetest already supports OpeGL ES
11:33 kilbith ah ?
11:33 Megaf even using the official irrlicht thing
11:33 PenguinDad *OpenGL
11:33 Krock kilbith, don't use a 1024px texture pack on VE's realtest server :P
11:33 kilbith but how I can switch to OpenGL ES easily ?
11:33 Krock ^ settings tab
11:33 kilbith Krock : I'm on Raspberry...
11:34 Krock ..and?
11:34 kilbith it's not in the settings tab
11:34 Krock so you're using minetest 0.4.10 stable?
11:35 Megaf Krock: I thing the minetest he is using is the stable and compiled with irrlicht for Open GL
11:35 kilbith yes, but even from -dev, there is no the OpenGL ES in this tab
11:35 kilbith check that
11:35 Krock hmm maybe you need some OpenGL ES libraries. idk
11:35 Megaf they have to be compiled
11:36 Megaf hes using a minetest from Debian Jessey repo
11:36 Megaf it is just the regular minetest compiled for arm
11:36 Megaf that works, but OpenGL will be done by the CPU
11:37 Krock you have an arm. wow.
11:37 kahrl I even have two
11:37 PenguinDad !g ARM Ltd
11:37 MinetestBot PenguinDad: http://www.arm.com/
11:38 Megaf Krock: he is trying to run minetest on a Raspberry Pi
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11:38 Krock \o/ kahrl got two.
11:38 Krock Megaf, sry. newground for me
11:38 PenguinDad I only got wings
11:38 Krock PenguinDad, and chicken have hands
11:38 Megaf PenguinDad: too bad you can use them to actually fly
11:45 * Krock high fives Jordach for having the same account-creation-day as me
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12:24 iqualfragile i… i never even knew: http://xkcd.com/1110/
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12:50 rubberduck hi, i have a question, i make a mod and want to add a grinder recipe, is this possible without changing code in the technic modpack??
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12:59 sfan5 https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comment​s/2i7tvs/a_project_i_like_uses_hg_instead_of_git/
12:59 sfan5 >minetest
12:59 sfan5 >minetest everywhere
12:59 Amaz What's hg?
13:00 sfan5 a vcs
13:00 sfan5 like git
13:00 SylvieLorxu You're a git if you don't use git
13:00 Amaz Okay.
13:00 Amaz XD
13:00 Nerotic lol
13:08 iqualfragile Amaz: like git but without useless complexity
13:08 iqualfragile rubberduck: read the technic source, iirc you can
13:08 iqualfragile find out how the modpack itself registers new grinder recipes
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13:19 kaeza mornings
13:19 ElectronLibre Good morning kaeza :).
13:20 * Jordach pats kaeza
13:20 * Nerotic plays League of Legends while stalks
13:21 kaeza lol LoL
13:21 iqualfragile Nerotic: dota2 all the way!
13:21 Nerotic i play dota a lot, i play lol when i want a challenge :)
13:21 Jordach TF2 best team game NA EU
13:22 sfan5 Portal2 best game
13:22 sfan5 >Steam notification
13:22 Nerotic what sfan said
13:22 sfan5 >Jordach is playing Borderlands 2
13:23 Jordach sfan5, it supports Linux you know
13:23 Nerotic btw dota 2 copied lol
13:23 Jordach wat
13:23 Jordach nope
13:23 sfan5 Jordach: wtf is borderlands 2 even about?
13:23 Nerotic yea it did
13:23 Jordach dota was a mod for warcraft 3
13:23 Nerotic yea
13:23 Jordach it just got a standalone game
13:23 Nerotic the original
13:23 Nerotic but nothing like it is now
13:24 Jordach sfan5, shoot and loot
13:24 sfan5 "but nothing like it is wow"
13:24 sfan5 -- Doge, 2014
13:24 Jordach basically Destiny that actually is decent
13:24 Nerotic lol
13:24 kaeza sfan5, FPS + RPG = awesome
13:24 Nerotic destiny rules
13:24 Jordach U WOT M8
13:24 sfan5 kaeza: cats + more cats = awesome
13:24 Jordach gtfo console shill
13:24 sfan5 u wot
13:24 sfan5 !deop Jordach
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13:25 Krock lol
13:25 sfan5 fite me 1v1 m8
13:25 sfan5 !deop Jordach
13:26 Nerotic brb this league match is getting intense
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13:32 Krock rubberduck, missing technic dependencies?
13:33 kaeza sfan5, re: crosscompiling, it went OK, but now it needs libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll, libstdc++-6.dll, and libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll; any idea where to find those?
13:34 sfan5 kaeza: /usr/<mingw compiler prefix>/lib/
13:34 kaeza hmm
13:35 sfan5 /usr/i686-mingw32/lib/libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll for me
13:35 kaeza and why isn't buildbot copying them into the package?
13:35 sfan5 because it doesn't know where they are?
13:36 kaeza kaeza@kaeza-pc:~$ ls /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libg<tab>
13:36 kaeza libgdi32.a  libglaux.a  libglu32.a  libgmon.a
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13:37 kaeza oh, here, /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc​/4.2.1-sjlj/libgcc_sjlj_1.dll
13:38 rubberduck i think i will add recipe cooking instead and can be replaced by a grinding recipe, when technic installed, code has to be added in technic modpack then. i don't know how to do this else.
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13:38 kaeza um, no, I don't think that's the one
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13:38 * kaeza tests
13:38 sfan5 just do $ find /usr/ -inpath "i586-mingw32msvc" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"
13:39 sfan5 $ find /usr -path "*i586-mingw32msvc*" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll" I mean
13:41 kaeza zero: https://gist.github.com/kaeza/79c68c16e047558f802f
13:42 iqualfragile_ !tell rubberduck https://github.com/minetest-techni​c/technic/blob/master/technic/mach​ines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
13:42 MinetestBot iqualfragile_: I'll pass that on when rubberduck is around
13:42 sfan5 kaeza: try just $ find /usr -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"
13:43 kaeza nope
13:44 sfan5 hm
13:44 sfan5 I dunno
13:44 sfan5 maybe debian/ubuntu doesn't include this
13:44 sfan5 4.2.1 is old btw
13:44 kaeza well, no probs, I can always play inside the VM... using burningsvideo ;_;
13:44 sfan5 mingw32 is pretty easy to build from source
13:44 sfan5 ??
13:45 sfan5 what are you trying to achieve?
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13:45 kaeza trying to play latest git without having to depend on 3rd party builds?
13:45 sfan5 i see
13:46 kaeza Windows 7 host, running Ubuntu 12.04 guest (yes, I know) in VBox
13:47 sfan5 kaeza: was it "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"?
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13:48 sfan5 kaeza: cause thats in here: https://www.archlinux.org/package​s/community/x86_64/mingw-w64-gcc/
13:48 sfan5 kaeza: suggestion: install arch and use the mingw from arch
13:49 sfan5 it's even up to date
13:49 kaeza will try
13:50 kaeza and yes: https://mediacru.sh/X8pLzYAJeRVW
13:54 Nerotic why does it say we must use mediacrush and pastie rather than imgur and pastebin?
13:55 Krock cuz speed and yolo
13:55 Nerotic ah
13:56 Nerotic was those sites made by people here? (never checked it out so idk)
14:03 Krock I guess no.
14:03 Nerotic ok
14:04 PenguinDad But what if I want to use sprunge.us?
14:05 Nerotic ooooo
14:06 PenguinDad noooo
14:06 Nerotic rebeldad
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14:08 Krock better use spoil.er
14:09 PenguinDad Krock: ping: unknown host spoil.er
14:10 Nerotic rebeldad strikes again
14:10 PenguinDad lol
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14:11 MinetestBot rubberduck: 10-04 13:42 UTC <iqualfragile_> https://github.com/minetest-techni​c/technic/blob/master/technic/mach​ines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
14:12 rubberduck i checked this file before, but i was not able to get a working result out of it
14:16 PenguinDad rubberduck: any error message?
14:18 rubberduck i tried to use the method technic.register_grinder_recipe in my mod, it says that it does not know technic, any way to import this function from this modpack??
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14:20 kaeza rubberduck, did you add technic to `depends.txt`?
14:21 rubberduck no
14:21 kaeza there's your problem
14:21 Nerotic lolol
14:22 Krock 15:30 <Krock>rubberduck, missing technic dependencies?
14:23 Krock and now is... 16:21
14:23 * kaeza pets Krock
14:23 Nerotic lolol
14:23 Krock ololo
14:23 Krock :)
14:24 PenguinDad rubberduck: did you add technic? to your depends.txt?
14:24 Nerotic if he is missing dependencies, he should always check depends.txt if the mod is there
14:25 rubberduck yes, but it is still not working, how can i post the error message without bloating the message to much??
14:26 Nerotic pastie
14:26 Nerotic .org
14:28 rubberduck http://pastie.org/9620038, i have used the names from the items as input/output value
14:29 Nerotic lol
14:30 Nerotic reinstall technic
14:30 Nerotic actually
14:30 Nerotic put a new builtin in, and a new copy of technic
14:30 Nerotic theres error in the code
14:32 rubberduck do i need the newest version from source, or is the zip package from the forum topic ok too??
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14:33 Nerotic what version of the game are you using?
14:33 Nerotic 0.4.10?
14:33 Nerotic if so, get that version lol
14:34 rubberduck yes, the newest dev
14:34 Nerotic ok
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14:48 rubberduck it works now
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14:49 rubberduck i needed to add a table with input and output, then the function used the data from this table
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14:54 rubberduck i added another way to craft a nyan cat/nyan cat rainbow
14:54 shadowzone Cool.
14:54 shadowzone Is it cheaper?
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14:55 john_minetest hi
14:57 rubberduck a bit, but it needs more steps than the way of gloopblocks
14:58 iqualfragile shadowzone: you should try this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/112/
14:59 shadowzone I see a sarlacc from star wars.
15:00 rubberduck i added colored meseblocks and  a rainbow mese block, you can grind the rainbow mese block and then you can use the output to craft a raw nyan cat, which you can cook into a normal nyan cat block
15:00 blaise hrmm
15:00 blaise my power keeps dimming, and going in and out..
15:00 zat what are nyancats for onyway
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15:01 blaise good thing I have all these UPS devices
15:01 PenguinDad zat: they are decorative
15:01 blaise PenguinDad: have you seen what happends when you put a nyan cat in the grinder ?
15:02 PenguinDad It dies :'(
15:02 blaise really? I was just curious..
15:02 zat lol
15:02 blaise now I kinda wanna try it and see what happeneds
15:02 rubberduck the nyan cat rainbow needs less material, but you need a lot more steps to get one, you need a nyan cat block and some mese rainbow dye (output of grinder)
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15:08 john_minetest nyan cats are some kind of achievement to show: "This guy here has found one nyan cat!"
15:08 rubberduck i want to make my colored mese blocks work with the colormachine mod, where should be the code for that (in my mod or in the colormachine mod)???
15:09 rickmcfarley zat: I believe nyan cat nodes are resistant to radioactivity from the radioactive materials in the technic mod
15:09 rubberduck =-O
15:11 andre_pl is there a way to send fake nodes to just one player? like a 'preview' of a building that's not really there.
15:12 PenguinDad andre_pl: that isn't possible
15:12 bjrohan_ VanessaE: Is there a way for me to make a 90 degree white lined asphalt, where the line is in the middle of the block use streetmod items?
15:12 VanessaE I don't think so
15:13 bjrohan_ Would it be easy for you to add a solid white line, just as you have the solid yellow line? Laying thos down at 90 degrees gives the same effect
15:13 andre_pl PenguinDad: darn, thanks.
15:14 Nerotic Anyone here interested in contributing to a fork of mine?
15:14 VanessaE bjrohan_: adding a new node for the purpose is easy enough.  ask webdesigner97.  it's his mod. :)
15:14 bjrohan_ Ah, ok :-)
15:17 PenguinDad Nerotic: If there's a knife bundle with the fork maybe :P
15:18 Nerotic knife bundle?
15:18 rubberduck i added a "?" to the technic dependency, now i can use the same recipe when technic not installed except that i use cooking then
15:18 PenguinDad *bundled
15:18 Nerotic confused
15:18 Nerotic knife bundled?
15:19 bjrohan_ VanessaE: is it best to post to the mod thread, or to wendesigner97 directly?
15:19 VanessaE post on the mod thread
15:20 VanessaE damn
15:20 VanessaE you don't waste any time do you
15:20 VanessaE :)
15:21 bjrohan_ If I waited I just may forget
15:25 rubberduck what is the license of the mese block texture, i can't find anything in the readme file
15:25 VanessaE rubberduck: cc-by-sa 3.0
15:25 VanessaE I believe
15:26 rubberduck ok
15:26 VanessaE unless it's otherwise states, afaik all minetest_game textures are this
15:30 Brains VanessaE: Is there any obvious downside to checking to see if luaentity.entities is non-nil before looping over it?  (Pipeworks, luaentity.lua, write_entities function)
15:31 Nerotic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14%t=10288
15:31 VanessaE Brains: ask nore :)
15:31 Nerotic replace the % with &
15:31 VanessaE he maintains that code
15:31 Nerotic *http://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=10288
15:32 nore hm?
15:32 nore write_entities should only be called at shutdown
15:33 nore so at that times, the entities table should exist
15:33 nore Brains, ^
15:34 Brains nore: I got the error trying to do a migrate from leveldb to redis.  I threw in a simple check for nil there and managed to get ~20% of the blocks completed before it died again.  (Haven't looked into that quite yet, no simple error message and I've run out of time.)
15:34 VanessaE oh that
15:34 rubberduck the license of the textures for unified dies is a bit unclear, the license file says GPL 2.0, the readme file says CC-by-SA 3.0
15:34 VanessaE engine bug.
15:34 rubberduck oops, dyes not dies
15:34 VanessaE rubberduck: one second...
15:34 VanessaE Brains: that's an engine bug
15:35 Brains VanessaE: Which part?
15:35 rubberduck it says bucket textures, but dyes are no buckets!
15:36 VanessaE rubberduck: ahh, that's old.  ignore that then
15:36 rubberduck ok
15:36 VanessaE I'll fix the text.
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15:38 Brains Nerotic: Er, which obvious part did I miss?  I mean, I even attempted a local patch with the obvious fix before asking about...  (The only reference I came across that seemed like it was an engine bug issue that was apparently related to luajit which this server isn't using...)
15:38 VanessaE Brains: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1667
15:39 Nerotic i wasnt paying attention, whats the problem brains?
15:39 VanessaE no wait, that might be the wrong one
15:40 VanessaE ok then I'm not sure what it is :)
15:40 Brains VanessaE: That was the closest issue I could find to mine but if ShadowNinja is right about it being luajit related, then it doesn't apply to this situation.
15:41 * Brains makes a note to go back later and see if luajit might be a good idea for his server.
15:41 VanessaE hm, I know for sure someone else had a redis-related issue here also
15:41 Nerotic dude
15:41 VanessaE yes, luajit is always a good idea
15:41 Nerotic luajit
15:41 VanessaE always use it :)
15:42 Nerotic ^
15:42 * Brains just used the defaults for his initial setup.  He's going back and tinkering with it now.  =:P
15:42 Brains Hence the redis thing...
15:42 Nerotic lol
15:43 Brains Adding that check for nil got me down to this before it died again:
15:43 Brains 11:25:34: ACTION[main]: Migrated 67500 blocks 20.2935% completed
15:43 Brains 11:25:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to store block in Database
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15:43 * Brains preferred the earlier error, it had things to easily track down.
15:46 Brains Hrm.  minetestserver apparently never contacted the redis server...  (I was just verifying that the redis server was up and working.  Noticed the previous log entries to my test was when it was brought up days ago.)
15:47 * Brains has to split, back to play with it later.  "Thanks, VanessaE, nore"
15:47 VanessaE good luck
15:48 shadowzone Bye.
15:48 shadowzone Hi VanessaE, how are you?
15:50 VanessaE oh I'm fine :)
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15:53 shadowzone Ok I'm gonna go.
15:53 Calinou hi
15:53 shadowzone Recording on MT-Nostalgia so I'm gonna go.
15:53 shadowzone BYE!
15:53 iqualfragile Brains: carefull with luajit, large pipework constructions make it not load
15:54 Brains iqualfragile: Ballpark for "large"?
15:54 iqualfragile Brains: reachable large
15:54 iqualfragile reachable without cheating
15:56 * Brains pulled down all his tubes in case that was the problem with the migration, didn't seem to make a difference.  He'd been meaning to redo his centrifuge setup anyways...
15:56 Brains I don't think I'd used more than 20 or 30 tubes total though.  Couple of sorters, couple of teleports, and then tubes to connect.
15:56 nore iqualfragile, actually it is large number of items in tubes at once
15:57 iqualfragile nore: ah, yes
15:57 nore (I'd like to know how large it is, though)
15:57 iqualfragile would be nice to have some tubes that do not show the items
15:57 iqualfragile or make that a setting
15:57 iqualfragile nore: well, it crashed on me, i made a bug report somewhere
15:57 nore oh, right now the items don't show up if players are not nearby
15:58 nore (you can change that somewhere in the code if you want)
15:58 Brains Does that include forceloaded but not player-adjacent?
15:58 iqualfragile https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/75
15:58 nore Brains, they don't show up there either
15:58 iqualfragile 65536
15:58 nore the problem is with storing the items
15:59 nore (nope, that's 65536 constants, so 65536/n items, with n a number I don't know)
16:00 * Brains ponders how upset his 7 year old would be if he just reset the world and went redis from scratch...  Best not to think too much about that....
16:00 iqualfragile Brains: why would you need to do that, isn't there a migrate switch for minetestserver?
16:02 Brains iqualfragile: The problem I was having was that the migration from leveldb to redis was failing...  Initially due to a call to pairs on luaentity.entities failing due to .entities being nil.  Adding a check for that got me to ~20% converted before faiing to store to the database.
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16:25 Krock In germany, you can food food in a town called food.
16:27 shadowzone o.O
16:27 shadowzone How do you food food in a town called food?
16:28 cities So shadowzone what goes on in the inchra server
16:29 shadowzone Not much.
16:29 shadowzone To be honest it's mostly drama with all the girls there.
16:30 john_minetest Wie tust du Essen essen in einer Stadt namens Essen?
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16:36 cities Oh drama
16:36 shadowzone Yep.
16:38 Krock shadowzone, the german word for food is "essen", that's also a town name
16:38 shadowzone Oh.
16:46 iqualfragile ja, ja Essen essen in Essen
16:46 Krock ^^
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16:52 john_minetest German city names [NSFW]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzp3_tr30lo
16:52 john_minetest Except for when you work in those towns ;)
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17:06 Megaf kilbith: Theres a French guy in my server
17:06 Megaf and je ne parle pas francais!
17:07 kaeza Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1715#issuecomment-57908372
17:07 Krock kaeza, I saw it. trying now since 30 minutes to amend my changes to the lastest commit
17:08 kaeza k
17:08 Krock seems like I have to make a 2nd commitif that won't work
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17:09 kaeza why not `git reset --hard <commit before yours>`, then redo it?
17:09 Krock hmm I'll try that one
17:10 kaeza amending, rebasing, etc, is probably going to take more time than simply re-writing it from scratch
17:11 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
17:11 * kaeza meows back at sfan5
17:11 kilbith Megaf: sorry, was afk
17:12 kilbith Megaf : compilation failed, OpenGL ES not recognized :(
17:12 Megaf he stil there
17:12 kaeza sfan5, apparently, passing -static-libgcc to gcc should remove the dependency on libgcc_whatever.dll, but I'm still trying to get cmake/make to pass it
17:13 sfan5 kaeza: -DCMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS="-static-libgcc" should work
17:13 kaeza oh, I forgot about CMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS
17:14 kaeza was using CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS
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17:16 kilbith http://paste.debian.net/124480/
17:16 kilbith fail with GLES
17:19 * Jordach meows at kaeza and sfan5
17:19 OldCoder ShadowNinja, around? I'd like to set up the first of the new world IRC channels
17:19 * kaeza meows back at Jordach
17:19 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
17:19 OldCoder Sokomine, I actually needed to merge the old and new defaults
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17:19 kaeza yey, it's passing -static-libgcc to `gcc` in compilation stage
17:20 kaeza now to see if it passes it at link stage
17:21 Megaf kilbith: dont you want to play minetest now? :)
17:21 Megaf theres a lonely French guy there
17:22 kilbith my presence is needed ?
17:23 Krock kaeza, now I reset the branch to upstream -> "Already up-to-date" (hard) and still get the same fail when trying to commit without amend
17:23 Megaf well, is up to you kilbith, theres a lonely French guy there and no one online speaks French
17:23 Megaf his name is "didi"
17:24 kaeza Krock, what is the error?
17:24 kilbith a french player is not something rare...
17:24 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Yes, I'm here.
17:24 kilbith Megaf: I have to switch of computer to play MT, too lazy actually
17:24 Krock kaeza: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
17:25 Krock but it's on the newest commit
17:25 OldCoder ShadowNinja, PM please regarding details
17:26 Krock (already did git.exe pull -v --progress "upstream" master
17:26 Krock )
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17:27 Krock \o/ --force-with-lease helped
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17:51 kaeza Krock, it should be nested[v], not nested[k], otherwise, you cannot copy tables with similar keys
17:51 kaeza (only if type(v) is table)
17:52 kaeza see how dump() is implemented
17:56 Amaz Is there a way to make falling nodes fall via code? So you don't have to dig them.
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17:57 hisforever I have a problen I put down a sofa and need to move it but I can't move it or delete it?
17:58 hisforever any tips?
17:58 Brains VanessaE,  nore: Heh, remember how I asked if checking for nil had any obvious downsides?  I think it turns out that it does...  Was taking a bit of lunch and fired up the world (the one I'd been trying to migrate, but still as leveldb) but the server crashes. Wee....
17:58 * Brains goes back to accomplishing things.
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18:02 Krock kaeza, sorry. I don't get what you mean. Could you write a short gist?
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18:04 hisforever ok I have a sofa that I can't remove I've tryed hachet and a pic and it is still there
18:04 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/1697#issuecomment-57692540
18:04 Calinou Megaf, someone's not blocking Admin names
18:05 hisforever single pleaer
18:05 hisforever player
18:05 kaeza Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0
18:06 Megaf lol Calinou
18:06 Calinou hisforever, what mods do you use? homedecor?
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18:07 hisforever dreambuilders
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18:08 Krock kaeza, and seen[v] = true is set after "if type(v.."?
18:08 VanessaE hisforever: use worldedit to remove it
18:08 kaeza oh yes
18:08 kaeza Krock, actually, gimme a few mins and I'll give you a table copy that keeps refs
18:08 VanessaE (normally any ordinary axe or pick will do, or even remove by hand)
18:08 Krock kaeza, that keeps the refs? interesting
18:09 hisforever you mean /worldedtit Vanessa?
18:10 VanessaE hisforever: I mean the worldedit mod.
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18:10 VanessaE when you can't dig something, use worldedit.
18:10 VanessaE it's part of dreambuilder
18:10 VanessaE //p set
18:11 VanessaE then punch two corners around the node
18:11 VanessaE you will see a checkered box surround it
18:11 VanessaE then do  //set air
18:11 VanessaE the node will disappear
18:11 VanessaE then do  //reset
18:11 hisforever ok ty
18:11 VanessaE the checkered box will disappear
18:11 VanessaE be careful when you   //set air
18:12 VanessaE make sure only the region you want to delete is enclosed by the checkered box :)
18:12 VanessaE if it's not right, just do   //p set   and punch two corners again
18:12 VanessaE btw, update your dreambuilder, the latest plantlife is in there and it's much less laggy now
18:13 VanessaE (if you haven't updated since say, last week)
18:13 hisforever sorry how do I get into this worldedit?
18:14 kaeza Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0
18:15 VanessaE hisforever: just type those commands and watch your chat console at the top of the screen
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18:15 Krock kaeza, neat. thank you!
18:15 kaeza sure
18:15 VanessaE hisforever: type:   //p set
18:16 VanessaE hisforever: then punch two nodes that are diagonally adjacent to and opposite sides of the couch you need to delete
18:16 VanessaE hisforever: then you will see a checkered box appear surrounding the couch.  type:  //set air    and then   //reset
18:16 VanessaE the couch will disappear and then the checkered box will disappear.
18:16 hisforever ok ty
18:20 hisforever ok I typed /p set and I get an invalad comand
18:20 VanessaE two slashes.
18:21 VanessaE //p set
18:21 VanessaE same for the  //set air  command  and  //reset
18:21 hisforever is there a page I can ggo to for these comands Vaness
18:22 VanessaE hisforever: yes, you could look here, but it would be way too much info I think:  https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-Wor​ldEdit/blob/master/Chat%20Commands.md
18:22 VanessaE every command supported by worldedit should be listed there.
18:22 hisforever ok ty I'll go there
18:24 kaeza Krock, sorry, I corrected the gist a second after pasting the link here, it should be seen[v], not seen[otable]
18:24 kaeza (ntable[k] = seen[v])
18:25 Krock kaeza, and "if seen[otable] then" would be always true...
18:25 kaeza that too
18:25 kaeza if seen[v] then ...
18:25 kaeza the first one, seet[otable] = nt is OK
18:25 kaeza seen*
18:26 Krock :D I was able to commit without an error message (using amend)
18:26 kaeza :D
18:27 Sokomine OldCoder: why merge new defaults? why did you need to, and what did you change?
18:29 Sokomine btw, anyone having a good idea how to handle mirroring/flipping of a building? normal nodes are no problem; nodeboxes are a diffrent matter...those cannot always be mirrored
18:29 OldCoder Sokomine, because the world has blocks from both the old and the new defaults!
18:29 OldCoder Both
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18:46 Sokomine OldCoder: which blocks in particular? there ought to be none such blocks
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18:52 hisforever Vanessa I did it all and it deleted the floor, its acting like the couch is not there. I can't  //pset the couch I hops this makes sence lol
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18:55 VanessaE you were supposed to make the select box enclose the couch :)
18:56 VanessaE that means selecting something *above* it as well as below it :)
18:56 hisforever I did
18:56 VanessaE nope, you selected only the floor :)
18:56 VanessaE you must have gone to one side, then the other but you didn't go up above the couch when you selected the second corner.
18:57 hisforever ok I'll try it again
18:57 VanessaE try again, don't be afraid of erasing more floor - you can always rebuild it later
18:57 VanessaE or put some dirt down and select that
18:57 hisforever I think I understand brb
18:57 VanessaE ok
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19:02 ThatGraemeGuy VanessaE: are the apple trees in dreambuilder meant to drop saplings?
19:03 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: they should, yes.  Don't they?
19:03 ThatGraemeGuy oh wait
19:03 VanessaE their drop ratio is very low
19:03 ThatGraemeGuy there appear to be 2 type of apple tree
19:03 hisforever Ty Vanessa sorry I'm slow at getting things but it did get rid of it
19:03 VanessaE hisforever: ok no worries.  btw how DID you end up with half a couch anyway?
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19:04 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: there's only one type of apple tree these days, but if your world has been around for more than a few months, you will see some of the older apple trees also
19:04 VanessaE as far as I know anyway
19:04 hisforever don't know
19:05 ThatGraemeGuy i'm on your survival server
19:06 ThatGraemeGuy ah there we go
19:06 ThatGraemeGuy suddenly 2 saplings, go figure
19:07 ThatGraemeGuy and i have a lava source that doesn't want to play nice
19:07 ThatGraemeGuy i.e. won't flow nicely in my pumice-making setup
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19:20 OldCoder Sokomine, I'll need to diff. There were several. But lots of things are fixed now. And there is an IRC channel for the world.
19:20 OldCoder Location is in the news file on join
19:20 OldCoder VanessaE, most issues are now fixed; come and see the cool world
19:20 OldCoder
19:21 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: SilverCrab is up and mostly repaired. Server is minetest.org and port is 30019
19:21 OldCoder
19:21 OldCoder IRC channel for SilverCrab is announced when you join the world
19:21 OldCoder
19:21 PenguinDad https://kentonv.github.io/capnproto/ rofl
19:21 OldCoder Sokomine, I want to revive the buggy world we discussed; the one where you had a little house
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19:24 Jordach lel
19:25 _Esteban x)
19:26 _Esteban why u dislike norton?
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19:27 Jordach because overprotective spyware
19:28 _Esteban Oh
19:29 _Esteban yeah, I only had one incident like that with the sprite editor, at least has a restore option :P
19:32 Jordach (if anyone asks, i am working on a multidoor system for BFD)
19:33 Calinou >2014 >antivirus
19:33 Krock silvercrab?
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19:33 Calinou OldCoder, joining…
19:33 john_minetest Lol, antivirus... so long ago...
19:33 Calinou Krock, redcrab's server continuation
19:33 Calinou but I can't connect apparently
19:33 Krock Calinou, so, in old 0.3.1 style or what?
19:34 PenguinDad Krock: more like 0.4.4 style
19:34 Krock ...that's what I mean
19:35 PenguinDad 0.4.4 was also my first minetest version </nostalgia>
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19:36 _Esteban mine was a 4.6-dev and my username was completelydifferent!
19:36 Amaz Same here, PenguinDad!
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19:38 Calinou 0.4.3, even
19:38 Calinou I can connect now
19:39 kaeza Mine was 0.4.3. I remember the great transition to 3D models :D
19:42 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
19:42 * Jordach sits there waiting for minetest.org 30019
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19:42 sfan5 Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do?
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19:43 PenguinDad Stupidity!
19:43 * PenguinDad hides
19:43 * sfan5 curls up to PenguinDad's lap
19:43 Jordach sfan5, i don't know
19:44 * Nerotic pushes sfan5 off rebeldads lap, and gets on
19:44 * sfan5 meows at Nerotic
19:44 _Esteban what are the new features in the new windows?
19:44 * sfan5 throws around with cats
19:44 _Esteban this gaming peasant does not have a decent pc for gaming
19:44 * Nerotic hisses at sfan5
19:44 sfan5 _Esteban: better windows (not even joking)
19:45 Jordach "You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!"
19:45 * sfan5 purrs at Nerotic
19:45 sfan5 Jordach: what about laptops?
19:45 Jordach "You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!"
19:45 Jordach read again
19:45 sfan5 I'm aware
19:45 sfan5 but what do "they" think about laptops
19:45 Calinou <sfan5> Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do?
19:45 Calinou do you have proof?
19:45 Calinou the EULA has always been laughably bad
19:45 * Nerotic trills at sfan5
19:45 Jordach Calinou, go check yourself you Linux using skrub
19:46 sfan5 Calinou: do you want a screenshot?
19:46 Calinou well… or just a link to the EULA itself
19:46 Calinou do it
19:46 sfan5 !g windows 10 tp eula
19:46 MinetestBot sfan5: http://windowsitpro.com/
19:46 sfan5 no
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19:46 sfan5 !g windows 10 tp download
19:46 MinetestBot sfan5: http://windows.microsoft.co​m/en-us/windows/preview-iso
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19:47 sfan5 Calinou: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us​/windows/preview-privacy-statement
19:47 sfan5 Calinou: "enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features."
19:47 Calinou technical preview only
19:47 sfan5 yeah
19:48 Calinou sfan5, but only in search fields?
19:48 sfan5 we're talking about that
19:48 Calinou they already do that on Windows 8 when you search something
19:48 Calinou (can be disabled)
19:48 sfan5 no
19:48 sfan5 not only search fields
19:48 sfan5 everywhere
19:48 Calinou also, /etc/hosts to the rescue :P
19:48 sfan5 as if that would help
19:48 sfan5 no network adapter to the rescue
19:48 Nerotic we still talking about windows :/
19:49 Calinou why wouldn't it help?
19:52 Krock windows exist to open and close
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19:54 _Esteban http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55002413.jpg
19:54 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzExIKnVrzI
19:54 Jordach top kek
19:54 sfan5 !title
19:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Angry Dews (MLG) - YouTube
19:55 * Jordach returns to Super Smash 3DS
19:55 sfan5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DltFjg20NVs
19:55 sfan5 ^ Jordach
19:55 Jordach u fuckin wot m9
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20:03 PenguinDad Jordach: Sir you made me rofl
20:03 _Esteban ^ so do I! x)
20:03 _Esteban cya guys!
20:04 * Brains passes by and mentions that his trouble before did stem from his modification to luaentities.lua...  He didn't wrap the write to file in the check so it blew away the luaentities file (just contained "return nil") and that crashes the server.
20:05 * Krock gives PenguinDad Brains
20:05 PenguinDad eee​w
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20:15 PenguinDad Did MLG invade the internet within one week? O_O
20:18 iqualfragile PenguinDad: wat is MLG?
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20:21 Krock my little game
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20:34 ShadowNinja Sokomine: It seems like OC has an old version of your redcrab map without my house, can you make a .we of it?
20:35 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Or upload a newer DB and he can merge them.
20:37 Krock Sokomine, I can't download the complete redcrab map. the server closes the connection at 21 MB
20:38 Sokomine Krock: please talk to erthome about that. the map is hosted on his server
20:38 Krock Sokomine, how can I reach him/her?
20:38 Sokomine ShadowNinja: another player has gathered map data automaticly. perhaps he can help
20:39 Sokomine Krock: forum might work
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20:56 OldCoder Krock, Sokomine what is the link?
20:56 Krock OldCoder, https://onehorseworld.com/minetest/Redcrab.zip
20:57 OldCoder Krock, let me try
20:57 OldCoder Moment more
20:58 OldCoder I got it. Sokomine does this copy have ShadowNinja house?
20:59 OldCoder Krock, did you want this ZIP file?
20:59 Krock OldCoder, yeah. the server broke the connetio after a while
20:59 Krock *connection
20:59 OldCoder Hm
20:59 OldCoder I think this copy is older than mine
20:59 Krock you've got one, too?
21:00 OldCoder I'm running the world right now
21:00 OldCoder All repaired etc.
21:00 Krock uuuuh
21:00 OldCoder server minetest.org port 30019
21:00 OldCoder Might be better for your purposes
21:00 OldCoder The linked one is from Fall 2013
21:00 OldCoder I think mine postdated that but not sure
21:01 Krock *tries to join*
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21:07 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi
21:07 OldCoder Sokomine, Krock notes that travelnets are corrupted. Should I remove them pending new ones?
21:07 * OldCoder is resting for a bit
21:07 iqualfragile hello OldCoder
21:08 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: i think https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blo​b/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with https://github.com/minetest-techni​c/technic/blob/master/technic/mach​ines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
21:08 iqualfragile correction: merged with https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blo​b/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua
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21:16 MichaelEh :waves
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21:25 john_minetest :waves back
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21:35 MichaelEh tries to get MCEdit to work to extract MC data
21:36 john_minetest What do you want to do with MC data?
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21:36 Sokomine OldCoder: hmm. disabling them for now might actually help a bit. perhaps i ought to teach them to recover...
21:37 Sokomine MichaelEh: talk to sfan5. mc data may under some circumstances be converted more directly
21:37 MichaelEh trying to get this (Big Sight) to convert http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/j​apan--tokyo-big-sight--comic-market1710/
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21:39 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with itself?
21:40 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: yes! thats absolutely what i was trying to say... let me try again, maybe this time i won't mix up the links
21:40 hisforever is dreambuilders flat thats all I see?
21:40 iqualfragile ShadowNinja/RealBadAngel: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/​blob/master/technic/machines/LV/grinder.lua and https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blo​b/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged
21:43 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: Nah, register/ is supposed to be completely tier-independent.  The tier subfolders include the registrations for the machines.  This means that con can cmpletely remove all eg, HV, machines by just removing one line from machines/init.lua.
21:43 ShadowNinja that you can completely*
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21:48 iqualfragile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
21:49 Jordach Is the real world anti-aliased or aliased. Discuss.
21:50 rickmcfarley lol
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21:51 PilzAdam Jordach, what do you mean by aliased? as in signals being aliased, or as in memory being aliased?
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21:56 Jordach PilzAdam, like how Minetest's entities, blocks and tools can have smooth edges and not a hard edge
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22:05 OldCoder Sokomine, should I remove travelnet and delete blocks?
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22:09 iqualfragile hello shadowzone
22:09 shadowzone hi.
22:10 iqualfragile why do you put dots behind single words?
22:10 shadowzone I dunno.
22:11 PenguinDad iqualfragile: I. am. not. sure. why. you. ask. that. :P
22:12 iqualfragile
22:12 iqualfragile thanks to unicode that was a single char
22:15 iqualfragile im not too sure, but it seems to me that the minecraft-takeover actually led to more people hanging around in #minetest
22:15 iqualfragile sfan5 has stats, i think
22:15 shadowzone Hmm.
22:15 shadowzone I think you may be right.
22:16 shadowzone I believe there are 154 users.
22:18 PenguinDad shadowzone: sorry there are only 149 real people in this channel
22:18 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: now 152, but yes
22:18 shadowzone Really?
22:18 iqualfragile which one is the bot?
22:18 iqualfragile (well, besides chanserv and minetestbot)
22:19 shadowzone HLuaBot?
22:19 * PenguinDad just noticed that HLuaBot isn't here
22:19 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: "Now 152"?
22:19 shadowzone Which used to me here.
22:19 ShadowNinja Oh, NVM.
22:19 shadowzone My question is.
22:19 shadowzone What's the most you've ever seen on this channel only?
22:20 iqualfragile 160+
22:20 iqualfragile sfan5: gib stats
22:20 ShadowNinja This channel used to max out at about 100.  It gets to 160 or so now.
22:20 shadowzone Wow.
22:21 * PenguinDad quickscopes the stats :>
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22:31 oOChainLynxOo Afk
22:31 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, you gonna join the other #minetest?
22:31 cg72 no
22:31 shadowzone :(
22:31 shadowzone I want to tell him to check steam.
22:31 cg72 what the hell is steam?
22:31 shadowzone Look it up.
22:32 shadowzone It's gaming software.
22:33 PenguinDad Steam or something I never got running on linux
22:33 shadowzone http://store.steampowered.com/
22:33 cities I'm gonna check out the other minetest at some point shadowzone
22:33 cities Soon as I get a shell
22:33 cities And connect more than two networks
22:33 shadowzone I got it running on my PC running linux.
22:33 cities Passat
22:34 shadowzone I got it from the software manager.
22:36 oOChainLynxOo Back
22:37 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, go check your steam.
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23:08 hisforever In dreambuilders is there a way to make the land less flat?
23:09 hisforever the train needs to be morw mountainus
23:09 hisforever more
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23:28 Sokomine OldCoder: wait a moment. i'm doing an update for travelnet
23:30 hisforever hot much chatter tonight
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23:32 shadowzone Nope.
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