IRC log for #minetest, 2014-10-04

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Time	Nick	Message
00:00	cities	Ok swiftkey is getting turned off
00:00	cities	Powwow where the heck did that come from
00:00	cities	That was bizarre
00:04	iqualfragile	shadowzone: poor you, how do you make friends when homeschooled? do you at least participate in some activities?
00:05	cities	A 12 year old knowledgeable enough to seek out minetest
00:06	iqualfragile	cities: its father is at least a bit linux-obsessed
00:07	cities	Oh
00:07	cities	Well that would explain some
00:07	cities	Why is it an it
00:08	shadowzone	Well I have plenty of friends.
00:08	shadowzone	I have all of you guys and I have about 15 irl friends.
00:08	iqualfragile	cities: because its not 14 yet
00:09	iqualfragile	shadowzone: i would doubt that, you most likely have 12 aquantices and like 2 friends
00:09	shadowzone	You got me.
00:10	* shadowzone	is afk
00:10	cities	Why does being not 14 yet make one an it
00:11	iqualfragile	cities: because i don't asing a sex or gender to people below age of consent
00:11	cities	Ohh...
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00:11	cities	Ok
00:12	VanessaE	iqualfragile: do you refer to a child you've met in person as "it" when you can clearly ascertain their gender, then?
00:12	cities	So when your child is born do you say it's an it??
00:12	iqualfragile	VanessaE: actually, yes
00:12	VanessaE	(assume a child born without any physical or mental abnormalities)
00:12	iqualfragile	its "das kind" in german
00:12	cities	That's kind of weird
00:12	VanessaE	iqualfragile: I would refrain from that in the future if I were you - you are very likely to get assulted for that.
00:13	VanessaE	assaulted*
00:13	iqualfragile	VanessaE: wut?
00:13	iqualfragile	why?
00:13	VanessaE	because parents do NOT take too kindly to people calling their children "it" instead of appropriate gender pronouns
00:13	cities	That's not normal and I would think parents wouldn't take kindly to their child being called an it
00:13	VanessaE	hah
00:13	cities	Wow you took my words
00:14	VanessaE	talk about jinx, cities  :)
00:14	cities	Jk
00:14	hisforever	VanessaE Dose the Animal Mod work in your Dreambuilders Game? I can't seem to get them running.
00:14	VanessaE	hisforever: it does work, yes, but I don't use it at present.  I may add it back in some time soon though
00:15	hisforever	btw Vanessa Dreambuilder is the best game I've seen yew
00:15	cities	Ios 8 has some keyboard bugs in landscape
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00:15	VanessaE	iqualfragile: in many cultures, calling someone (child or otherwise) "it" is akin to equating that person to an inanimate object or an animal.
00:15	VanessaE	thanks, hisforever  :)
00:15	cities	Don't think it's working quite correctly
00:15	hisforever	:)
00:17	hisforever	Vanessa the reason I ask is that I'm not getting Error messages when Animals are actvated .
00:17	VanessaE	hisforever: but they don't spawn, correct?
00:17	hisforever	ok ty
00:17	iqualfragile	the german word for girl "das mädchen" is not female, actually, its "das", still its common to make the gramatical mistake of saying "das mädchen … sie"
00:17	VanessaE	hisforever: after you install the mod, you have to do  /mobf  and turn turn on "secondary spawning"
00:17	iqualfragile	never really thought about that, to be honest
00:18	hisforever	yes spawn is the word I needed
00:18	iqualfragile	but this is getting faar faar off topic, lets just settle it with on the internet everybody is male untill prooven otherwise
00:18	VanessaE	iqualfragile: I would take offense to that...
00:19	iqualfragile	VanessaE: you are in prooven otherwise
00:19	VanessaE	indeed so
00:19	VanessaE	as is shadowzone.
00:19	hisforever	I'll try that before I head to bed brb
00:19	iqualfragile	no, why would the child be?
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00:19	VanessaE	beee....cause I've known her for several months now?
00:19	shadowzone	I'm a he?
00:20	shadowzone	Since when?
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00:20	iqualfragile	VanessaE: well, i have not
00:20	shadowzone	I am a girl.
00:20	VanessaE	iqualfragile: shadowzone a player from our Inchra server network, well known over there.
00:20	shadowzone	I have proof on my YT channel.
00:20	shadowzone	A little too well known if you ask me.
00:21	iqualfragile	omg look red pandas! http://i.imgur.com/VS1rWcE.gif
00:21	iqualfragile	we call them cat bears, which is kinda accurate
00:21	hisforever	Would secondary spawning be /secondary spawing on?
00:23	VanessaE	hisforever:  just type  /mobf   and turn it on in the menu that comes on
00:23	VanessaE	comes up*
00:23	hisforever	ok
00:24	VanessaE	hisforever: be sure you also select which mobs you actually want, in that menu
00:24	VanessaE	e.g. you can turn stuff on/off in there, like boombomb, etc.
00:24	Cylus	iqualfragile: Red pandas look like large raccoons to me.
00:24	hisforever	ok ty
00:25	iqualfragile	Cylus: look at them in real life, katzenbären is an accurate descripiton
00:25	Cylus	iqualfragile: I don't think I have any in my area to look at.
00:26	iqualfragile	Cylus: not even zoos?
00:26	Cylus	iqualfragile: Huh .... I'm not even sure I have a zoo in my area .... maybe I do ....
00:26	Cylus	Keep in mind that I'm a pedestrian. I can't venture out too far.
00:27	* Fritigern_AFK	is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life)
00:27	Cylus	Fritigern_AFK: Ha ha, nice.
00:28	hisforever	-I- invalad comand /modf this is what comes up?
00:28	iqualfragile	moBf
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00:28	iqualfragile	B
00:29	iqualfragile	as in Breasts
00:29	iqualfragile	hello shadowzone :D
00:29	hisforever	Sorry to be a pain lol
00:29	selah	Hi.
00:29	iqualfragile	why did you change your name?
00:29	selah	We had a brown out.
00:29	iqualfragile	brown?
00:29	selah	Our power cut for a second.
00:29	iqualfragile	and you don't seem to be using sasl
00:29	iqualfragile	did the settings not save?
00:29	selah	Not with the account.
00:29	selah	This one isn't registered.
00:30	iqualfragile	what does it even mean?
00:30	Fritigern_AFK	Shado, let me get you up to speed about what i just said : [17:27:27] Fritigern_AFK is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life)
00:30	Fritigern_AFK	Selah is a point of rest in a psalm
00:30	selah	Yep.
00:31	selah	And my real name
00:31	VanessaE	iqualfragile:  "brownout" is when the mains voltage sags low enough to shut things like computers down, but without the power actually cutting off entirely (blackout).
00:31	iqualfragile	selah: NO NO NO
00:31	shadowzone	What?
00:31	iqualfragile	don't put your real name on the internet
00:31	shadowzone	It's only my first name/
00:31	shadowzone	And no one can get much from that.
00:31	hisforever	I'll try to fix it tomorrow I'm going to hit the bed God bless everyone
00:31	VanessaE	shadowzone: you need you buy a UPS.  they aren't expensive and will prevent that in the future.
00:31	shadowzone	Night.
00:31	oOChainLynxOo	God bless, hisforever
00:32	VanessaE	night, hisforever
00:32	iqualfragile	VanessaE: well, the batteries are quite expensive
00:32	shadowzone	VanessaE, yeah, oh well.
00:32	iqualfragile	hisforever: im offended by the god bless
00:32	iqualfragile	damn, was just about to start a flamewar
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	Suck it up lel
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	xD
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	Flamewart
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	War*
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	Almost left Minetest because of one
00:32	Fritigern_AFK	shadowzone: If you get frequent brownouts, you may want to invest in a UPS, it is designed to catch them and keep your PC running for about 5-15 minutes (depending on the type and wattage of the UPS)
00:32	oOChainLynxOo	For this reason
00:32	shadowzone	I might have to go tomorrow.
00:33	shadowzone	No it's our whole house power.
00:33	VanessaE	shadowzone: that's okay, you only need it for your PC.
00:33	shadowzone	That's why I love laptops.
00:33	iqualfragile	shadowzone: pc is love, pc is life!
00:34	VanessaE	shadowzone: think of it like an oversized laptop battery that works on any PC.
00:34	Fritigern_AFK	Yes, but with a UPS between the outlet and your PC, your PC would keep running when the rest of the house's appliances are out cold
00:34	Cylus	Sorry iqualfragile, my real name is on the Internet as well.
00:34	shadowzone	VanessaE, I'll talk to my dad about it.
00:34	shadowzone	Maybe for my server machine.
00:34	iqualfragile	shadowzone: you can connect multiple devices to a single ups
00:34	VanessaE	shadowzone: I had to re-install my OS a couple weeks ago because of that (unplanned power cut, loose cord).
00:34	VanessaE	it corrupted my file system
00:34	iqualfragile	VanessaE: how? did you mount nobarrier?
00:35	shadowzone	Oh/
00:35	shadowzone	Ouch!
00:35	Fritigern_AFK	I like the UPS'es that APC makes,. they are very good
00:35	VanessaE	iqualfragile: it smashed the kernel or the video driver in the process, not sure which.  it was easier to wipe the OS partition and re-install.
00:35	Fritigern_AFK	Wish i still had one
00:36	iqualfragile	http://xkcd.com/861/
00:36	Cylus	Oh, I hate having to reinstall the system. Though when I have to do it, it's usually my own fault. I tend to break things.
00:36	VanessaE	/home was unaffected, and I keep backups, so it was no big deal
00:36	iqualfragile	Fritigern_AFK: yes, but not cheap
00:36	iqualfragile	Cylus: i actually like reinstalling the system
00:36	Cylus	iqualfragile: Why is that?
00:36	iqualfragile	it purges your system of cruft
00:36	Fritigern_AFK	No, but if you want cheap, then don;t even start running a server
00:37	Cylus	It takes hours and leaves youy without a working computer during that time.
00:37	iqualfragile	and all the strange libs you one day installed to make that one software from 1990 you downloaded run
00:37	iqualfragile	Cylus: my record are 8 minutes
00:37	VanessaE	Cylus: I got smart a while back and scripted it. :)
00:37	Cylus	Cruft is usually why I have to reinstall. But if I was better at this, I wouldn't e leaving cruft.
00:37	iqualfragile	but not for arch, arch takes a bit longer
00:37	VanessaE	because I'm constantly breaking it :P
00:38	Cylus	VanessaE: Oh, sweet. That must be nice. Just set it up to go, then head off to work while you wait ....
00:38	VanessaE	Cylus: almost so, yes; I have to answer a couple of prompts
00:38	VanessaE	(msttfcorefonts for example)
00:39	Cylus	Meh. I don't need those. I just need stuff from Debian main.
00:39	VanessaE	I think the license for that ^^^ and choosing a display manager (even though I always leave it at lightdm), and always telling it no I don't wanna futz with lirc or whatever it was called.
00:40	Cylus	VanessaE: Which system has you choose a display manager?
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00:40	VanessaE	Cylus: I install Xubuntu but I also pull in components from gnome and kde, so I end up with prompts for either kdm or gdm (I forget which)
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00:42	Cylus	VanessaE: Ah, got it. It's a bit of a pain how some of those components pull in unwanted packages. For example, I dare not touch LXDE, because it pulls in a package (I'm not even sure which one) that breaks the notification system pretty badly.
00:42	VanessaE	jeez
00:43	Cylus	Though that was another distro, come to think of it. I haven't tried it on my current one. I tend to distro surf a bit.
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00:57	paramat	=P still learning github ... once i have created a new branch in a repo at github, do i use 'git clone' to transfer the branch info into my local repo?
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01:01	VanessaE	yup I think so
01:01	VanessaE	if it doesn't work, look up "remote tracking branch"
01:02	VanessaE	(because at that point it becomes a slight pain in the ass until you get the right command so that you can track the branch properly)
01:02	VanessaE	you forked someone else's repo and now you want to clone your fork right?
01:06	paramat	i forked minetest game, created a new branch ready for making a pull request
01:07	paramat	thanks
01:08	VanessaE	yep, that should work then
01:20	kahrl	VanessaE: I hate those prompts during apt-get install :P
01:20	kahrl	I just want to walk away from the computer and enjoy my life, not sit while it's installing
01:20	kahrl	(so I usually export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive)
01:24	jin_xi	http://youtu.be/Ep5KJ3aUGFk moar particles colliding... in some ways
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02:17	Fritigern_AFK	paramat: Use git glone <uri> <target_dir>, and use git checkout <branch> to switch branches
02:18	paramat	thanks
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02:21	Fritigern_AFK	From one git noob to another: you're welcome ;-)
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02:22	Fritigern_AFK	I sometimes switch branches on the repo of SingularityViewer, that's how i know
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02:57	Zeno`	Fritigern_AFK, do you have a github account?
03:01	Fritigern_AFK	I do, but there's nothing Minetest related. In fact, all there is are outdated SingularityViewer sources.
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03:02	Fritigern_AFK	But, Zeno`, if you still want to have a looksee: https://github.com/Fritigern
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03:03	Zeno`	Oh, I like your avatar
03:03	VanessaE	whose?
03:03	Zeno`	Fritigern's
03:04	Zeno`	Not as nice as mine, but still good
03:05	Fritigern_AFK	Zeno`: I just set it. I realized that i still hadn't done it so i did it just before pasting you the URL :-)
03:05	Zeno`	:)
03:05	Zeno`	I've seen it before somewhere
03:06	Zeno`	https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/5899883?v=2&amp;s=460
03:06	Zeno`	That's my photo
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03:52	ShadowNinja	Sokomine: "/legacy_load_areas 0" with owners.tbl (or whatever the NO filename is) in the world path is all that's needed.
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03:58	ShadowNinja	Sokomine: I've got a old copy of redcrab's owners.tbl if you need it.
04:11	Sokomine	ShadowNinja: thanks. i've discovered the command you've implemented for converting the file, and so far it seems to work fine
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04:54	oOChainLynxOo	OldCoder, Brooklyn needs you
04:54	OldCoder	R
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05:53	OldCoder	VanessaE, awake? Probably not. sfan5, I need to merge old and new defaults. To get rid of unknown goldblock nodes, just copy the register_node code and the png file? RealBadAngel?
05:54	VanessaE	I am here
05:54	OldCoder	See question
05:54	OldCoder	Sokomine had me revert to old default, but need two blocks from new one
05:54	OldCoder	Just copy register_node code and png files?
05:56	OldCoder	Looks easy
06:03	VanessaE	well I was here.  I'm off to bed now.
06:04	VanessaE	better talk to Sokomine about that :)
06:04	VanessaE	night
06:04	OldCoder	VanessaE, it is fixed
06:04	OldCoder	Check out the world in the morning
06:04	OldCoder	It's getting good
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06:40	sol_invictus	I wonder, is player:hud_change(id, "text", "new value") broken?
06:40	sol_invictus	every time I try doing this text becomes black
06:41	sol_invictus	oops, no
06:42	sol_invictus	I forgot to quote stat name
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07:03	sfan5	OldCoder: still need me?
07:04	OldCoder	sfan5, no; I think I've got the changes done
07:04	OldCoder	SilverCrab has turned out well
07:04	OldCoder	Check it out
07:04	OldCoder	minetest.org port 30019
07:04	OldCoder	I had to merge old and new defaults, etc.
07:04	OldCoder	Still some missing blocks
07:04	* sfan5	starts minetest
07:04	OldCoder	But a lot of nice structures
07:11	hmmmm	jesus christ, OldCoder do you not have a job?
07:11	OldCoder	hmmmm, ?
07:11	Zeno`	lol
07:12	OldCoder	hmmmm, if that is your way of thanking me for reviving RedCrab, you're welcome
07:13	OldCoder	And, for what it's worth, one startup has more or less shut down and I need to decide about moving to another in Texas
07:13	OldCoder	Thank you for your concern
07:13	OldCoder
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07:16	Krock	!up minetest.ntdll.net
07:16	MinetestBot	minetest.ntdll.net:30000 is up (535ms)
07:16	Krock	<3 MinetestBot
07:16	MinetestBot	<3 Krock
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07:21	oOChainLynxOo	Well I'm out for the night
07:21	OldCoder	Thought you were asleep
07:21	OldCoder	o/
07:22	OldCoder	The world looks good
07:22	oOChainLynxOo	Lol
07:22	oOChainLynxOo	Excellent
07:22	oOChainLynxOo	Good night all
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07:35	sfan5	OldCoder: https://mediacru.sh/QedeOde7qkBX
07:36	OldCoder	R
07:37	OldCoder	What is it?
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07:37	OldCoder	Ah
07:37	sfan5	a tower on the redcrab server
07:37	sfan5	it only seems to go to 3000 nodes on your copy though
07:37	OldCoder	That is tall
07:37	OldCoder	We can rebuild it
07:38	OldCoder	sfan5, RedCrab is dead
07:38	OldCoder	Most likely
07:38	OldCoder	It's good the new copy exists at all
07:38	sfan5	what about the griefed copy you were talking about?
07:38	sfan5	yeah, 1 copy is always better than no copy
07:38	OldCoder	The griefed copy is apparently very old
07:39	OldCoder	Vanessa or Jakey told me, useless
07:39	sfan5	D:
07:39	OldCoder	Do not D:
07:39	OldCoder	We have rescued almost all of the world
07:39	OldCoder	And have tidied up the mods to a large extent
07:39	* OldCoder	is quite pleased
07:40	OldCoder	We've got the Walmart, the greenhouse in the sky, the giant raspberry, the tallest stairs in the world, the hotel, etc.
07:40	sfan5	if something's missing I still have a small part of redcrabs world in my ubuntu backup
07:40	OldCoder	Feel free to graft it in if it's useful
07:41	OldCoder	You know, all the lava fountains seem unsafe
07:42	OldCoder	Is there supposed to be so much lava?
07:42	sfan5	I don't know much about the buildings on redcrabs server
07:42	sfan5	VanessaE might be the person you want to ask
07:42	OldCoder	kk
07:42	OldCoder	Anyway, that's it
07:44	OldCoder	Whoa. A whole rooftop made of lava.
07:45	Zeno`	Nice work OldCoder
07:46	OldCoder	Oh, you visited?
07:46	OldCoder	Check it out
07:46	Zeno`	I have a couple of times. Will do so again shortly
07:47	OldCoder	Hm. Here's a store that sells "houses boats castles stuffs and more"
07:47	Zeno`	it's not 30019 anymore?
07:48	Zeno`	weird.. working now
07:48	OldCoder	It's 30019
07:48	OldCoder	I've restarted a few times but up for half an hour or so now
07:48	OldCoder	Oh, the unknown item
07:48	OldCoder	is a landrush thing
07:48	OldCoder	I'll edit it out later
07:49	Zeno`	ahh ok
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08:24	burli	Hi there
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08:24	burli	I'm new to minetest and I like it. But I can't fly
08:25	ElectronLibre	(Press K once with the fly privilege :D)
08:25	burli	I know, but does'nt work
08:25	ElectronLibre	Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening] everyone.
08:26	ElectronLibre	Ok, can you type /privs and give me the list of your privileges?
08:27	burli	no fly priv
08:28	ElectronLibre	You aren't on a local server I suppose.
08:28	burli	interact, teleport, shout, settime, bring, basic_privs, password, ban, home, server, kick, rollback, privs, give
08:28	ElectronLibre	Ok, you have just to type /grant burli fly .
08:28	burli	I just run singleplayer
08:28	ElectronLibre	Ok, /grant singleplayer all so.
08:28	ElectronLibre	And you will get all the privileges, including fly :).
08:30	burli	great, thx
08:30	burli	forgot to use /grant
08:30	burli	*rolleyes*
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08:31	ElectronLibre	Everything is better when /grant command is entered ^^.
08:31	burli	But how can I make this priv permament? I try to add free_move = true in minetest.conf
08:31	burli	also default_privs = fly
08:32	ElectronLibre	It's impossible :/... In singleplayer mod you join the world when the server start only with interact, shout and privs, which is hidden..
08:33	ElectronLibre	In minetest.conf it's for Server options. You can run a server without making it public and you will be able to use your nickname instead of singleplayer, and when you are granted it's saved after server's shutting down :).
08:33	burli	Is it possible to find Bones? I died and resurrect, but I could'nt find my old bones
08:34	ElectronLibre	Hmm, was your inventory empty?
08:34	burli	no
08:35	burli	I mined some minerals and other stuff and my bones should be at the exit of a cave, but I could'nt find the cave again
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08:37	ElectronLibre	Ok.. The only way to find them is to find where you died... If you have not restarted the server since you died, you can fly and press R to see every chunck loaded. If you explore every of them you will be able to find them. Or you can see it in the logs by looking for "player singleplayer have lost X hp" or a similar message.
08:38	ElectronLibre	Did you build or dig nodes or restart the server since you died?
08:39	burli	I restart the game
08:40	ElectronLibre	Don't restart the server, that will add lines to your debug.txt log file and make the search more difficult (If you did it it's not a problem..).
08:41	burli	My bones are still there?
08:41	ElectronLibre	Yes.
08:41	ElectronLibre	But now there is a lot of lines after the die message with the location of your bones ^^"...
08:41	burli	Ok
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08:43	ElectronLibre	Just open debug.txt file with leafpad or notepad.. hm.. not notepad.. and then start searching for "player singleplayer have lost " or a similar message.
08:43	burli	If someone can tell me the "die" message in the log i will be able to find it
08:43	* ElectronLibre	try to remember.
08:44	burli	Is the log size limited?
08:45	ElectronLibre	No, but when your hard drive is full you know that it's time to clean the debug.txt file ^^...
08:45	burli	No, just 1.4MB
08:45	* ElectronLibre	have ever seen bigger.
08:46	ElectronLibre	*has
08:46	burli	how can I get my current coordinates?
08:47	* ElectronLibre	started MT to kill him and see the message but MT crashed >_>... He likes sid..
08:47	ElectronLibre	By pressing F5 it's in the top of the screen.
08:48	burli	great, thx
08:48	burli	brb
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08:48	Krock	\o/ Amaz ing
08:51	* ElectronLibre	cratered.
08:52	ElectronLibre	No logs o.o ...
08:53	burli	damn
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08:53	ElectronLibre	I just hope you have some logs...
08:57	ElectronLibre	I try with an old version to see the message.
08:59	Krock	Minetest has 1026 correctly formattedforum threads in the forums
09:00	Krock	^mods
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09:01	burli	wtf!! A tree makes Damage through glass o.o
09:01	ElectronLibre	A tree makes damages? °_°
09:01	PenguinDad	Krock: only 311 left to go
09:01	Krock	tree monsters
09:02	Krock	burli, I know this. their attack/damage range is more than 1 node (1m)
09:02	ElectronLibre	Ah, ok.. yes burli if they are close to you they can damage you through nodes.
09:03	Krock	<3 parts in the minetest codes like "m_dirty = true;"
09:03	burli	ah, damn. Nearly died in my house o.o
09:04	burli	Ok, just need to find my bones :-D
09:05	ElectronLibre	burli, try to search in your minetest.conf "singleplayer damaged by", it's the begining of the message.
09:06	burli	you mean debug.txt
09:06	burli	I'm searching
09:06	ElectronLibre	*debug.txt sorry.
09:06	Amaz	In minetest.conf XD
09:06	burli	singleplayer, damage 2 hp, health now 0 hp
09:07	burli	thats the die message, I guess
09:07	ElectronLibre	The only way I found to see the message is use 0.4.10 started from DOS command line environnement, horrible >_>...
09:07	Amaz	Yeah.
09:07	ElectronLibre	Yes :D
09:07	ElectronLibre	And the is the location at the right.
09:07	PenguinDad	ElectronLibre: you use dos?
09:08	burli	wtf?? I did'nt die 65 times
09:09	burli	ah, these messages are for critters
09:09	ElectronLibre	On an other computer I have Win8 and DOS is the only thing that remind me Linux xD.. No it's just that when I start minetest the text window diseappear so I want to keep it open by starting it with DOS. I added minetest path to the %PATH% so it's very easy.
09:10	Amaz	s/an other/another
09:10	Amaz	:P
09:10	ElectronLibre	Thank you ^^"...
09:10	* PenguinDad	hands Amaz a /
09:10	Amaz	:P
09:11	ElectronLibre	I can't recognize if it's another or an other.. I will probably learn it soon.
09:12	* Krock	hands PenguinDad a o/
09:13	* PenguinDad	hands Krock a hoove
09:13	* Krock	takes it and cooks it
09:13	Amaz	ElectronLibre, most of the time it's another... I can't think of anywhere where it would be an other...
09:13	* Krock	adds tutorial world to his future builds
09:14	Amaz	:
09:14	Amaz	*:D
09:14	ElectronLibre	Ok, but in US english or UK english, or both?
09:14	Amaz	Why do the enter and backspace keys have to be so close together?!?!
09:14	Amaz	I presume both, but I only know about UK English...
09:14	PenguinDad	tutorial.world.nice? ? ":D" : ":("
09:14	Krock	^ cuz life isn't a pony farm
09:15	Krock	PenguinDad, parse error at ' ? '
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09:15	ElectronLibre	So burli did you find the last "player singleplayer damaged by"? Are you going to the written location?
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09:16	burli	ElectronLibre, no. It's not that easy to find
09:16	PenguinDad	Krock: y u no ternary operator?
09:17	ElectronLibre	burli, did you try to start search at the end of the file, from the end to the top?
09:17	ElectronLibre	*begining
09:19	burli	find a better way. "singleplayer respawns at"
09:19	ElectronLibre	Hum, yes, easier way xD...
09:21	Krock	PenguinDad, cuz u already '?' there, so no 2nd need
09:22	PenguinDad	Krock: that first ? belonged to the function
09:22	ElectronLibre	But burli, start from the end to the begining if you can, it's very easy by this way to find the last time you died. :)
09:22	Krock	PenguinDad, k.
09:23	Megaf	Morning Amaz ElectronLibre Krock PenguinDad
09:23	Megaf	How are things?
09:23	Amaz	Fine.
09:24	PenguinDad	Hey Megaf
09:24	Krock	liek yesterday
09:24	ElectronLibre	As usual : boring, and you?
09:24	* Krock	waves at Megaf
09:25	Megaf	so I was compiling minetest client and server on a really slow board, I left it compiling overnight and today when I check the status I read this.
09:25	Megaf	[ 14%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/script/lua_api/l_item.cpp.o
09:25	Megaf	c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
09:25	ElectronLibre	O_O
09:25	PenguinDad	lol
09:26	Krock	it built l_item.cpp file for me
09:26	Megaf	And then I realized that I ran a make -j 4 on a single core with only 256 MB of ram
09:26	Krock	*fine
09:26	ElectronLibre	Megaf : try -j2 ^^...
09:26	Megaf	so it basicaly ran ou of ram
09:26	Megaf	out*
09:26	Krock	ElectronLibre, lel. 2 cores for a singlecore? :P
09:27	Megaf	yep, I'm trying with -j 2 now
09:27	PenguinDad	Megaf: next time without the -j ;)
09:27	* Megaf	runs a make clean
09:27	* Krock	compiles without -j just now
09:27	Megaf	clear*
09:27	Megaf	clean**
09:28	Megaf	ok, here we go
09:29	Megaf	0% done!
09:29	ElectronLibre	I tried a month ago to compile with a very old computer, and around 25% he sent a shutdown -h now message because the processor was too hot and he shuted down O_o...
09:29	ElectronLibre	:D
09:29	Megaf	lol
09:29	Megaf	hm, I think -j 2 i faster
09:29	Krock	ElectronLibre, nothing dramatic if you compile incremental
09:30	* PenguinDad	never compiles incrementally
09:30	ElectronLibre	With a 2 cores and around 500Mo of RAM it takes around 30min..
09:30	Megaf	Krock: sometimes incremental compiling can run into problems
09:30	Zeno`	I never compile in the source tree
09:30	Krock	I hate json or whatever breaks the incremental linking :(
09:30	sol_invictus	any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eihXTL7i
09:30	Megaf	ElectronLibre: that's slower than my ODroid U3 quad core ARM
09:30	Megaf	much slower
09:30	Krock	Megaf, yeah. I noticed recently
09:30	ElectronLibre	I just types make -j2 and around 20 minutes he crashed xD.. Yes thi is an old computer too..
09:30	PenguinDad	Krock: JSON is still better than XML
09:30	Megaf	it takes about 3 minutes to compile minetestserver on my ODroid
09:31	Krock	PenguinDad, yeah it is.. but the stuff breaks the incremental linking
09:31	Zeno`	-j8 ftw
09:31	PenguinDad	-j1337 isn't awesome
09:31	Krock	param  /p:Configuration=Release ftw
09:32	ElectronLibre	sol_invictus, which program gave you this error message?
09:32	sol_invictus	minetestserver
09:32	ElectronLibre	Ok o_o..
09:32	ElectronLibre	Minetest-dev server?
09:32	Krock	sol_invictus, looks like strlen.s is missing?
09:32	sol_invictus	yes, dev
09:33	Krock	lol fail. something else is missing
09:33	ElectronLibre	I suppose it's a lua library, for the strlen function O_o...
09:33	Krock	oops not json. jthread
09:33	sol_invictus	I get segfaults every few hours on dev version
09:34	sol_invictus	and now seems like I managed to reproduce segfault from lua
09:34	ElectronLibre	O_o.. Ok.. "Did you try to turn it off and on again?" xD..
09:35	Megaf	That moment when you are happy because there's people playing in your server early morning and at the same time sad because you want to turn it off to backup things and update it
09:35	Megaf	!server Megaf
09:35	MinetestBot	Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1672ms
09:36	ElectronLibre	The only way to fix this, I suppose, is to download the missing library and put it in its directory...
09:38	sol_invictus	which library is missing exactly?
09:39	ElectronLibre	If it's a library, strlen.s . Anyway it's strlen.s which is missing, so just try to find it on the web..
09:40	Krock	!server plat
09:40	MinetestBot	Krock: Krock's Ultimative Platform | 62.203.234.241 | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 33ms
09:40	* Krock	slaps Megaf with 1672 / 33
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09:41	ElectronLibre	There is also less clients on your server Krock.
09:41	Krock	ElectronLibre, yeha. full of zeros
09:42	ElectronLibre	I would be very happy to go to your server but I doubt that I will stay a long time...
09:43	sol_invictus	aha, turn it off more often, Krock
09:43	PenguinDad	!server just
09:43	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 31/78, 14/31 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 48ms
09:43	Krock	sol_invictus, oke.
09:45	sol_invictus	nah, I'm actually sorry that you can't run it 24/7, I wouldn't leave otherwise
09:53	sol_invictus	I figured out what method causes segfoult
09:53	sol_invictus	segfault*
09:54	* Krock	gives sol a cookie
09:54	sol_invictus	player:hud_change( id, 'text', 'long text' )
09:54	* sol_invictus	noms it
10:04	sol_invictus	Krock, I seem to know why this HUD goes haywire sometimes
10:04	sol_invictus	have you looked at hud.lua in landrush mod?
10:05	PenguinDad	Such hud much long very segfault wow
10:05	sol_invictus	lol
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10:06	sol_invictus	Krock, right now I'm referring missing health bar and text becoming black
10:07	sol_invictus	this thing happens when some mod wrongly changes the hud
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10:08	Megaf	lol Krock
10:10	Megaf	[ 25%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/content_mapnode.cpp.o
10:10	Megaf	one hour to go!
10:12	sol_invictus	how old is your machine Megaf?
10:12	Megaf	one or two years old
10:12	Megaf	sol_invictus: it's a raspberry pi:)
10:13	Amaz	XD
10:14	sol_invictus	jeez
10:14	sol_invictus	Megaf, have you tried enabling swap?
10:14	Megaf	sol_invictus: no need for swap
10:14	sol_invictus	no, you need to stop crashes
10:15	sol_invictus	at least few hundred mb
10:18	Krock	Megaf, mine is from 2006/7 .. uhm about 8 years old and takes 25 minutes to compile :)
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10:19	Zeno`	[100%] Built target minetestserver
10:19	Megaf	30% here
10:19	Zeno`	[100%] Built target minetest
10:19	Zeno`	real    0m1.079s
10:19	Megaf	at the end we will see how long it take
10:20	Megaf	Zeno`: was that after a make clean?
10:20	Zeno`	yes
10:20	Megaf	one second?
10:20	Zeno`	yep
10:20	Megaf	SSD?
10:20	Zeno`	cope
10:20	Zeno`	nope*
10:20	Zeno`	$ make clean; time make -j8 > /dev/null
10:20	Zeno`	real    0m0.977s
10:21	PenguinDad	Zeno`: what cpu?
10:21	Zeno`	model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
10:22	Megaf	ok, let me get the latest minetest and try here
10:22	Megaf	HERE=my old desktop at my old home
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10:25	Zeno`	The only thing that takes a long time to compile is Qt (especially with webkit)
10:26	Zeno`	I have 7000 bogomips :/ :3
10:27	Zeno`	thing is I still sometimes get <20 fps on minetest
10:27	sol_invictus	only 4140 \:
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10:28	PenguinDad	sol_invictus: bogomips only tells you how good your processor is at doing nothing
10:28	sol_invictus	yep, I know
10:28	sol_invictus	but it's not a useless meter
10:29	sol_invictus	my notebook has higher bogomips and it actually performs better in many things
10:30	Megaf	bogomips: 6428.36
10:31	Megaf	here
10:31	Megaf	without overclock
10:31	Megaf	that's my Phenom II x4 955 BE at 3,2 GHz
10:31	Zeno`	PenguinDad, that's correct!
10:31	Megaf	model name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
10:31	PenguinDad	bogomips : 6628.87
10:31	Zeno`	my computer is very good at doing nothing
10:32	Megaf	so is mine
10:32	Zeno`	heh
10:32	PenguinDad	model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
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10:32	Megaf	lets see how long does my x4 takes to build irrlicht
10:32	Amaz	real 6m38.661s user 9m29.099s Time for building Minetest,]
10:33	Megaf	real0m30.128s
10:33	Megaf	to build irrlicht
10:33	Amaz	How do you find out the bogomips?
10:33	Zeno`	this could be a new useless benchmark!
10:33	sol_invictus	lscpu
10:33	PenguinDad	Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo
10:33	ElectronLibre	The compilation battle is started!
10:33	Megaf	Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Bogomips
10:34	Megaf	Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep bogomips
10:34	Megaf	one of them
10:34	Amaz	bogomips: 5424.43
10:34	sol_invictus	Megaf, better cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i bogomips
10:34	Megaf	==== Successfully built LuaJIT 2.0.3 ====
10:34	Megaf	real0m9.304s
10:35	Zeno`	Megaf is it possible to cross compile targeting the rPI?
10:35	Zeno`	Seems like if it was you'd save some time
10:36	Zeno`	I've been meaning to get one of those things
10:36	DusXMT	Zeno`: Should definitely be, but you need to build yourself a toolchain for that
10:36	Zeno`	DusXMT, yeah, that's the tedious part
10:36	PenguinDad	real 1m0.394s for building minetest
10:37	Amaz	O.o
10:38	Megaf	37% on my Raspberry Pi
10:38	* ElectronLibre	try to compile too.
10:39	Zeno`	everybody is compiling O.O
10:39	* DusXMT	should try compiling on his Pentium 3, if only he wasn't lazy
10:39	ElectronLibre	Yes, it's the compilation awards xD
10:39	Zeno`	haha
10:39	PenguinDad	"real 0m27.123s" :>
10:40	Megaf	[100%] Built target minetest
10:40	Megaf	real2m5.040s
10:40	Zeno`	Megaf, is that with -j4?
10:40	ElectronLibre	Compilation started for MT sources from github.com with -j4 .
10:40	Megaf	PenguinDad: so your two core extra makes lots of difference
10:40	Megaf	Zeno`: yep
10:40	Zeno`	interesting
10:40	Megaf	cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=Off -DIRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR=../1.8/
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10:41	PenguinDad	Megaf: the second one was with tweaked CFLAGS
10:41	Megaf	hm
10:42	Megaf	I wonder how could we make gcc use the whole power of our CPUs
10:42	Zeno`	try -j8 anyway :)
10:42	PenguinDad	-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" makes compiling much faster
10:42	Zeno`	or at least -j6
10:42	Zeno`	no optimisation? hehe
10:42	Megaf	I mean, our CPU have lots of interesting stuff
10:42	Megaf	flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save
10:43	Megaf	it can do a lot via haardware
10:43	Zeno`	your CPU has special instructions for minetest ABMs?
10:43	Zeno`	That's cool
10:43	PenguinDad	lol
10:43	Megaf	lol
10:45	Megaf	some instruction that could be used are sse4a and 3dnow
10:45	Megaf	exclusive AMD instructions
10:46	PenguinDad	Megaf: how about -march=native?
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10:46	Megaf	PenguinDad: that -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None
10:46	Megaf	with that it wont build anything playiable, would it?
10:46	* Jordach	purrs at asie
10:46	sfan5	no
10:47	Megaf	PenguinDad: with your flag it was slower
10:47	Megaf	real2m2.263s
10:47	sfan5	CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None builds a debug build
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10:53	iqualfragile	genious idea: we should put the minetest article on simple english
10:53	iqualfragile	it would be so much fun to read
10:54	Amaz	What's "simple english"?
10:54	Jordach	ELI5
10:55	iqualfragile	Amaz: english witht 850-1500 words and almost no gramar
10:55	iqualfragile	http://simple.wikipedia.org
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10:55	iqualfragile	http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Examples_of_simpler_English
10:55	Amaz	XD
10:56	Amaz	Nice!
10:57	iqualfragile	sb should symlink murica.wikipedia.org to simple.wikipedia.org :D
10:58	PenguinDad	xD
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11:07	Megaf	51% on my raspberry!
11:07	iqualfragile	Megaf: 51% of what?
11:07	iqualfragile	minetest compile?
11:08	Krock	^ yup.
11:09	iqualfragile	you could crosscompile
11:10	DusXMT	iqualfragile: 'cause that's fun to do
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11:20	* rubberduck	krocks the dile
11:22	ElectronLibre	:compilation_finished:
11:23	iqualfragile	ElectronLibre: but does it blend?
11:25	ElectronLibre	Hmm..
11:25	* ElectronLibre	verify
11:25	ElectronLibre	$blend minetest ==> Yes, it blends!
11:26	* ElectronLibre	should create a program that answer if it blends or not xD..
11:29	Megaf	Oh no! An error during the compilation!
11:30	ElectronLibre	Which one?
11:30	Megaf	I give up
11:30	Megaf	minetest and irrlight are not easily portable, bad bad design
11:30	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/plain/124457
11:31	PenguinDad	*irrlicht
11:31	ElectronLibre	:/
11:31	kilbith	Megaf : finally entered in a MT world, with OpenGL : <1FPS :/
11:32	kilbith	I can't wait for MT + OpenGL ES...
11:32	Megaf	kilbith: but using the precompiled minetest right?
11:32	kilbith	yes
11:32	Megaf	Im having a hard time compiling minetest here
11:32	kilbith	jessie repo
11:32	Megaf	it crashed at 51%
11:33	Megaf	OpenGL ES it's a pain to make it work in irrlicht
11:33	PenguinDad	kilbith: minetest already supports OpeGL ES
11:33	kilbith	ah ?
11:33	Megaf	even using the official irrlicht thing
11:33	PenguinDad	*OpenGL
11:33	Krock	kilbith, don't use a 1024px texture pack on VE's realtest server :P
11:33	kilbith	but how I can switch to OpenGL ES easily ?
11:33	Krock	^ settings tab
11:33	kilbith	Krock : I'm on Raspberry...
11:34	Krock	..and?
11:34	kilbith	it's not in the settings tab
11:34	Krock	so you're using minetest 0.4.10 stable?
11:35	Megaf	Krock: I thing the minetest he is using is the stable and compiled with irrlicht for Open GL
11:35	kilbith	yes, but even from -dev, there is no the OpenGL ES in this tab
11:35	kilbith	check that
11:35	Krock	hmm maybe you need some OpenGL ES libraries. idk
11:35	Megaf	they have to be compiled
11:36	Megaf	hes using a minetest from Debian Jessey repo
11:36	Megaf	it is just the regular minetest compiled for arm
11:36	Megaf	that works, but OpenGL will be done by the CPU
11:37	Krock	you have an arm. wow.
11:37	kahrl	I even have two
11:37	PenguinDad	!g ARM Ltd
11:37	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: http://www.arm.com/
11:38	Megaf	Krock: he is trying to run minetest on a Raspberry Pi
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11:38	Krock	\o/ kahrl got two.
11:38	Krock	Megaf, sry. newground for me
11:38	PenguinDad	I only got wings
11:38	Krock	PenguinDad, and chicken have hands
11:38	Megaf	PenguinDad: too bad you can use them to actually fly
11:45	* Krock	high fives Jordach for having the same account-creation-day as me
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12:24	iqualfragile	i… i never even knew: http://xkcd.com/1110/
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12:50	rubberduck	hi, i have a question, i make a mod and want to add a grinder recipe, is this possible without changing code in the technic modpack??
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12:59	sfan5	https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/2i7tvs/a_project_i_like_uses_hg_instead_of_git/
12:59	sfan5	>minetest
12:59	sfan5	>minetest everywhere
12:59	Amaz	What's hg?
13:00	sfan5	a vcs
13:00	sfan5	like git
13:00	SylvieLorxu	You're a git if you don't use git
13:00	Amaz	Okay.
13:00	Amaz	XD
13:00	Nerotic	lol
13:08	iqualfragile	Amaz: like git but without useless complexity
13:08	iqualfragile	rubberduck: read the technic source, iirc you can
13:08	iqualfragile	find out how the modpack itself registers new grinder recipes
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13:19	kaeza	mornings
13:19	ElectronLibre	Good morning kaeza :).
13:20	* Jordach	pats kaeza
13:20	* Nerotic	plays League of Legends while stalks
13:21	kaeza	lol LoL
13:21	iqualfragile	Nerotic: dota2 all the way!
13:21	Nerotic	i play dota a lot, i play lol when i want a challenge :)
13:21	Jordach	TF2 best team game NA EU
13:22	sfan5	Portal2 best game
13:22	sfan5	>Steam notification
13:22	Nerotic	what sfan said
13:22	sfan5	>Jordach is playing Borderlands 2
13:23	Jordach	sfan5, it supports Linux you know
13:23	Nerotic	btw dota 2 copied lol
13:23	Jordach	wat
13:23	Jordach	nope
13:23	sfan5	Jordach: wtf is borderlands 2 even about?
13:23	Nerotic	yea it did
13:23	Jordach	dota was a mod for warcraft 3
13:23	Nerotic	yea
13:23	Jordach	it just got a standalone game
13:23	Nerotic	the original
13:23	Nerotic	but nothing like it is now
13:24	Jordach	sfan5, shoot and loot
13:24	sfan5	"but nothing like it is wow"
13:24	sfan5	-- Doge, 2014
13:24	Jordach	basically Destiny that actually is decent
13:24	Nerotic	lol
13:24	kaeza	sfan5, FPS + RPG = awesome
13:24	Nerotic	destiny rules
13:24	Jordach	U WOT M8
13:24	sfan5	kaeza: cats + more cats = awesome
13:24	Jordach	gtfo console shill
13:24	sfan5	u wot
13:24	sfan5	!deop Jordach
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13:25	Krock	lol
13:25	sfan5	fite me 1v1 m8
13:25	sfan5	!deop Jordach
13:26	Nerotic	brb this league match is getting intense
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13:32	Krock	rubberduck, missing technic dependencies?
13:33	kaeza	sfan5, re: crosscompiling, it went OK, but now it needs libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll, libstdc++-6.dll, and libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll; any idea where to find those?
13:34	sfan5	kaeza: /usr/<mingw compiler prefix>/lib/
13:34	kaeza	hmm
13:35	sfan5	/usr/i686-mingw32/lib/libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll for me
13:35	kaeza	and why isn't buildbot copying them into the package?
13:35	sfan5	because it doesn't know where they are?
13:36	kaeza	kaezakaeza-pc:~$ ls /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libg<tab>
13:36	kaeza	libgdi32.a  libglaux.a  libglu32.a  libgmon.a
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13:37	kaeza	oh, here, /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.2.1-sjlj/libgcc_sjlj_1.dll
13:38	rubberduck	i think i will add recipe cooking instead and can be replaced by a grinding recipe, when technic installed, code has to be added in technic modpack then. i don't know how to do this else.
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13:38	kaeza	um, no, I don't think that's the one
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13:38	* kaeza	tests
13:38	sfan5	just do $ find /usr/ -inpath "i586-mingw32msvc" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"
13:39	sfan5	$ find /usr -path "*i586-mingw32msvc*" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll" I mean
13:41	kaeza	zero: https://gist.github.com/kaeza/79c68c16e047558f802f
13:42	iqualfragile_	!tell rubberduck https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
13:42	MinetestBot	iqualfragile_: I'll pass that on when rubberduck is around
13:42	sfan5	kaeza: try just $ find /usr -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"
13:43	kaeza	nope
13:44	sfan5	hm
13:44	sfan5	I dunno
13:44	sfan5	maybe debian/ubuntu doesn't include this
13:44	sfan5	4.2.1 is old btw
13:44	kaeza	well, no probs, I can always play inside the VM... using burningsvideo ;_;
13:44	sfan5	mingw32 is pretty easy to build from source
13:44	sfan5	??
13:45	sfan5	what are you trying to achieve?
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13:45	kaeza	trying to play latest git without having to depend on 3rd party builds?
13:45	sfan5	i see
13:46	kaeza	Windows 7 host, running Ubuntu 12.04 guest (yes, I know) in VBox
13:47	sfan5	kaeza: was it "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"?
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13:48	sfan5	kaeza: cause thats in here: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/mingw-w64-gcc/
13:48	sfan5	kaeza: suggestion: install arch and use the mingw from arch
13:49	sfan5	it's even up to date
13:49	kaeza	will try
13:50	kaeza	and yes: https://mediacru.sh/X8pLzYAJeRVW
13:54	Nerotic	why does it say we must use mediacrush and pastie rather than imgur and pastebin?
13:55	Krock	cuz speed and yolo
13:55	Nerotic	ah
13:56	Nerotic	was those sites made by people here? (never checked it out so idk)
14:03	Krock	I guess no.
14:03	Nerotic	ok
14:04	PenguinDad	But what if I want to use sprunge.us?
14:05	Nerotic	ooooo
14:06	PenguinDad	noooo
14:06	Nerotic	rebeldad
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14:08	Krock	better use spoil.er
14:09	PenguinDad	Krock: ping: unknown host spoil.er
14:10	Nerotic	rebeldad strikes again
14:10	PenguinDad	lol
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14:11	MinetestBot	rubberduck: 10-04 13:42 UTC <iqualfragile_> https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
14:12	rubberduck	i checked this file before, but i was not able to get a working result out of it
14:16	PenguinDad	rubberduck: any error message?
14:18	rubberduck	i tried to use the method technic.register_grinder_recipe in my mod, it says that it does not know technic, any way to import this function from this modpack??
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14:20	kaeza	rubberduck, did you add technic to `depends.txt`?
14:21	rubberduck	no
14:21	kaeza	there's your problem
14:21	Nerotic	lolol
14:22	Krock	15:30 <Krock>rubberduck, missing technic dependencies?
14:23	Krock	and now is... 16:21
14:23	* kaeza	pets Krock
14:23	Nerotic	lolol
14:23	Krock	ololo
14:23	Krock	:)
14:24	PenguinDad	rubberduck: did you add technic? to your depends.txt?
14:24	Nerotic	if he is missing dependencies, he should always check depends.txt if the mod is there
14:25	rubberduck	yes, but it is still not working, how can i post the error message without bloating the message to much??
14:26	Nerotic	pastie
14:26	Nerotic	.org
14:28	rubberduck	http://pastie.org/9620038, i have used the names from the items as input/output value
14:29	Nerotic	lol
14:30	Nerotic	reinstall technic
14:30	Nerotic	actually
14:30	Nerotic	put a new builtin in, and a new copy of technic
14:30	Nerotic	theres error in the code
14:32	rubberduck	do i need the newest version from source, or is the zip package from the forum topic ok too??
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14:33	Nerotic	what version of the game are you using?
14:33	Nerotic	0.4.10?
14:33	Nerotic	if so, get that version lol
14:34	rubberduck	yes, the newest dev
14:34	Nerotic	ok
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14:48	rubberduck	it works now
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14:49	rubberduck	i needed to add a table with input and output, then the function used the data from this table
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14:54	rubberduck	i added another way to craft a nyan cat/nyan cat rainbow
14:54	shadowzone	Cool.
14:54	shadowzone	Is it cheaper?
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14:57	rubberduck	a bit, but it needs more steps than the way of gloopblocks
14:58	iqualfragile	shadowzone: you should try this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/112/
14:59	shadowzone	I see a sarlacc from star wars.
15:00	rubberduck	i added colored meseblocks and  a rainbow mese block, you can grind the rainbow mese block and then you can use the output to craft a raw nyan cat, which you can cook into a normal nyan cat block
15:00	blaise	hrmm
15:00	blaise	my power keeps dimming, and going in and out..
15:00	zat	what are nyancats for onyway
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15:01	blaise	good thing I have all these UPS devices
15:01	PenguinDad	zat: they are decorative
15:01	blaise	PenguinDad: have you seen what happends when you put a nyan cat in the grinder ?
15:02	PenguinDad	It dies :'(
15:02	blaise	really? I was just curious..
15:02	zat	lol
15:02	blaise	now I kinda wanna try it and see what happeneds
15:02	rubberduck	the nyan cat rainbow needs less material, but you need a lot more steps to get one, you need a nyan cat block and some mese rainbow dye (output of grinder)
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15:08	rubberduck	i want to make my colored mese blocks work with the colormachine mod, where should be the code for that (in my mod or in the colormachine mod)???
15:09	rickmcfarley	zat: I believe nyan cat nodes are resistant to radioactivity from the radioactive materials in the technic mod
15:09	rubberduck	=-O
15:11	andre_pl	is there a way to send fake nodes to just one player? like a 'preview' of a building that's not really there.
15:12	PenguinDad	andre_pl: that isn't possible
15:12	bjrohan_	VanessaE: Is there a way for me to make a 90 degree white lined asphalt, where the line is in the middle of the block use streetmod items?
15:12	VanessaE	I don't think so
15:13	bjrohan_	Would it be easy for you to add a solid white line, just as you have the solid yellow line? Laying thos down at 90 degrees gives the same effect
15:13	andre_pl	PenguinDad: darn, thanks.
15:14	Nerotic	Anyone here interested in contributing to a fork of mine?
15:14	VanessaE	bjrohan_: adding a new node for the purpose is easy enough.  ask webdesigner97.  it's his mod. :)
15:14	bjrohan_	Ah, ok :-)
15:17	PenguinDad	Nerotic: If there's a knife bundle with the fork maybe :P
15:18	Nerotic	knife bundle?
15:18	rubberduck	i added a "?" to the technic dependency, now i can use the same recipe when technic not installed except that i use cooking then
15:18	PenguinDad	*bundled
15:18	Nerotic	confused
15:18	Nerotic	knife bundled?
15:19	bjrohan_	VanessaE: is it best to post to the mod thread, or to wendesigner97 directly?
15:19	VanessaE	post on the mod thread
15:20	VanessaE	damn
15:20	VanessaE	you don't waste any time do you
15:20	VanessaE	:)
15:21	bjrohan_	If I waited I just may forget
15:25	rubberduck	what is the license of the mese block texture, i can't find anything in the readme file
15:25	VanessaE	rubberduck: cc-by-sa 3.0
15:25	VanessaE	I believe
15:26	rubberduck	ok
15:26	VanessaE	unless it's otherwise states, afaik all minetest_game textures are this
15:30	Brains	VanessaE: Is there any obvious downside to checking to see if luaentity.entities is non-nil before looping over it?  (Pipeworks, luaentity.lua, write_entities function)
15:31	Nerotic	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14%t=10288
15:31	VanessaE	Brains: ask nore :)
15:31	Nerotic	replace the % with &
15:31	VanessaE	he maintains that code
15:31	Nerotic	*http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=10288
15:32	nore	hm?
15:32	nore	write_entities should only be called at shutdown
15:33	nore	so at that times, the entities table should exist
15:33	nore	Brains, ^
15:34	Brains	nore: I got the error trying to do a migrate from leveldb to redis.  I threw in a simple check for nil there and managed to get ~20% of the blocks completed before it died again.  (Haven't looked into that quite yet, no simple error message and I've run out of time.)
15:34	VanessaE	oh that
15:34	rubberduck	the license of the textures for unified dies is a bit unclear, the license file says GPL 2.0, the readme file says CC-by-SA 3.0
15:34	VanessaE	engine bug.
15:34	rubberduck	oops, dyes not dies
15:34	VanessaE	rubberduck: one second...
15:34	VanessaE	Brains: that's an engine bug
15:35	Brains	VanessaE: Which part?
15:35	rubberduck	it says bucket textures, but dyes are no buckets!
15:36	VanessaE	rubberduck: ahh, that's old.  ignore that then
15:36	rubberduck	ok
15:36	VanessaE	I'll fix the text.
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15:38	Brains	Nerotic: Er, which obvious part did I miss?  I mean, I even attempted a local patch with the obvious fix before asking about...  (The only reference I came across that seemed like it was an engine bug issue that was apparently related to luajit which this server isn't using...)
15:38	VanessaE	Brains: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1667
15:39	Nerotic	i wasnt paying attention, whats the problem brains?
15:39	VanessaE	no wait, that might be the wrong one
15:40	VanessaE	ok then I'm not sure what it is :)
15:40	Brains	VanessaE: That was the closest issue I could find to mine but if ShadowNinja is right about it being luajit related, then it doesn't apply to this situation.
15:41	* Brains	makes a note to go back later and see if luajit might be a good idea for his server.
15:41	VanessaE	hm, I know for sure someone else had a redis-related issue here also
15:41	Nerotic	dude
15:41	VanessaE	yes, luajit is always a good idea
15:41	Nerotic	luajit
15:41	VanessaE	always use it :)
15:42	Nerotic	^
15:42	* Brains	just used the defaults for his initial setup.  He's going back and tinkering with it now.  =:P
15:42	Brains	Hence the redis thing...
15:42	Nerotic	lol
15:43	Brains	Adding that check for nil got me down to this before it died again:
15:43	Brains	11:25:34: ACTION[main]: Migrated 67500 blocks 20.2935% completed
15:43	Brains	11:25:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to store block in Database
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15:43	* Brains	preferred the earlier error, it had things to easily track down.
15:46	Brains	Hrm.  minetestserver apparently never contacted the redis server...  (I was just verifying that the redis server was up and working.  Noticed the previous log entries to my test was when it was brought up days ago.)
15:47	* Brains	has to split, back to play with it later.  "Thanks, VanessaE, nore"
15:47	VanessaE	good luck
15:48	shadowzone	Bye.
15:48	shadowzone	Hi VanessaE, how are you?
15:50	VanessaE	oh I'm fine :)
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15:53	shadowzone	Ok I'm gonna go.
15:53	Calinou	hi
15:53	shadowzone	Recording on MT-Nostalgia so I'm gonna go.
15:53	shadowzone	BYE!
15:53	iqualfragile	Brains: carefull with luajit, large pipework constructions make it not load
15:54	Brains	iqualfragile: Ballpark for "large"?
15:54	iqualfragile	Brains: reachable large
15:54	iqualfragile	reachable without cheating
15:56	* Brains	pulled down all his tubes in case that was the problem with the migration, didn't seem to make a difference.  He'd been meaning to redo his centrifuge setup anyways...
15:56	Brains	I don't think I'd used more than 20 or 30 tubes total though.  Couple of sorters, couple of teleports, and then tubes to connect.
15:56	nore	iqualfragile, actually it is large number of items in tubes at once
15:57	iqualfragile	nore: ah, yes
15:57	nore	(I'd like to know how large it is, though)
15:57	iqualfragile	would be nice to have some tubes that do not show the items
15:57	iqualfragile	or make that a setting
15:57	iqualfragile	nore: well, it crashed on me, i made a bug report somewhere
15:57	nore	oh, right now the items don't show up if players are not nearby
15:58	nore	(you can change that somewhere in the code if you want)
15:58	Brains	Does that include forceloaded but not player-adjacent?
15:58	iqualfragile	https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/75
15:58	nore	Brains, they don't show up there either
15:58	iqualfragile	65536
15:58	nore	the problem is with storing the items
15:59	nore	(nope, that's 65536 constants, so 65536/n items, with n a number I don't know)
16:00	* Brains	ponders how upset his 7 year old would be if he just reset the world and went redis from scratch...  Best not to think too much about that....
16:00	iqualfragile	Brains: why would you need to do that, isn't there a migrate switch for minetestserver?
16:02	Brains	iqualfragile: The problem I was having was that the migration from leveldb to redis was failing...  Initially due to a call to pairs on luaentity.entities failing due to .entities being nil.  Adding a check for that got me to ~20% converted before faiing to store to the database.
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16:25	Krock	In germany, you can food food in a town called food.
16:27	shadowzone	o.O
16:27	shadowzone	How do you food food in a town called food?
16:28	cities	So shadowzone what goes on in the inchra server
16:29	shadowzone	Not much.
16:29	shadowzone	To be honest it's mostly drama with all the girls there.
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16:36	cities	Oh drama
16:36	shadowzone	Yep.
16:38	Krock	shadowzone, the german word for food is "essen", that's also a town name
16:38	shadowzone	Oh.
16:46	iqualfragile	ja, ja Essen essen in Essen
16:46	Krock	^^
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17:06	Megaf	kilbith: Theres a French guy in my server
17:06	Megaf	and je ne parle pas francais!
17:07	kaeza	Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1715#issuecomment-57908372
17:07	Krock	kaeza, I saw it. trying now since 30 minutes to amend my changes to the lastest commit
17:08	kaeza	k
17:08	Krock	seems like I have to make a 2nd commitif that won't work
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17:09	kaeza	why not `git reset --hard <commit before yours>`, then redo it?
17:09	Krock	hmm I'll try that one
17:10	kaeza	amending, rebasing, etc, is probably going to take more time than simply re-writing it from scratch
17:11	* sfan5	meows at kaeza
17:11	* kaeza	meows back at sfan5
17:11	kilbith	Megaf: sorry, was afk
17:12	kilbith	Megaf : compilation failed, OpenGL ES not recognized :(
17:12	Megaf	he stil there
17:12	kaeza	sfan5, apparently, passing -static-libgcc to gcc should remove the dependency on libgcc_whatever.dll, but I'm still trying to get cmake/make to pass it
17:13	sfan5	kaeza: -DCMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS="-static-libgcc" should work
17:13	kaeza	oh, I forgot about CMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS
17:14	kaeza	was using CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS
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17:16	kilbith	http://paste.debian.net/124480/
17:16	kilbith	fail with GLES
17:19	* Jordach	meows at kaeza and sfan5
17:19	OldCoder	ShadowNinja, around? I'd like to set up the first of the new world IRC channels
17:19	* kaeza	meows back at Jordach
17:19	* sfan5	curls up to Jordach's lap
17:19	OldCoder	Sokomine, I actually needed to merge the old and new defaults
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17:19	kaeza	yey, it's passing -static-libgcc to `gcc` in compilation stage
17:20	kaeza	now to see if it passes it at link stage
17:21	Megaf	kilbith: dont you want to play minetest now? :)
17:21	Megaf	theres a lonely French guy there
17:22	kilbith	my presence is needed ?
17:23	Krock	kaeza, now I reset the branch to upstream -> "Already up-to-date" (hard) and still get the same fail when trying to commit without amend
17:23	Megaf	well, is up to you kilbith, theres a lonely French guy there and no one online speaks French
17:23	Megaf	his name is "didi"
17:24	kaeza	Krock, what is the error?
17:24	kilbith	a french player is not something rare...
17:24	ShadowNinja	OldCoder: Yes, I'm here.
17:24	kilbith	Megaf: I have to switch of computer to play MT, too lazy actually
17:24	Krock	kaeza: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
17:25	Krock	but it's on the newest commit
17:25	OldCoder	ShadowNinja, PM please regarding details
17:26	Krock	(already did git.exe pull -v --progress "upstream" master
17:26	Krock	)
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17:27	Krock	\o/ --force-with-lease helped
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17:51	kaeza	Krock, it should be nested[v], not nested[k], otherwise, you cannot copy tables with similar keys
17:51	kaeza	(only if type(v) is table)
17:52	kaeza	see how dump() is implemented
17:56	Amaz	Is there a way to make falling nodes fall via code? So you don't have to dig them.
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17:57	hisforever	I have a problen I put down a sofa and need to move it but I can't move it or delete it?
17:58	hisforever	any tips?
17:58	Brains	VanessaE,  nore: Heh, remember how I asked if checking for nil had any obvious downsides?  I think it turns out that it does...  Was taking a bit of lunch and fired up the world (the one I'd been trying to migrate, but still as leveldb) but the server crashes. Wee....
17:58	* Brains	goes back to accomplishing things.
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18:02	Krock	kaeza, sorry. I don't get what you mean. Could you write a short gist?
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18:04	hisforever	ok I have a sofa that I can't remove I've tryed hachet and a pic and it is still there
18:04	Calinou	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1697#issuecomment-57692540
18:04	Calinou	Megaf, someone's not blocking Admin names
18:05	hisforever	single pleaer
18:05	hisforever	player
18:05	kaeza	Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0
18:06	Megaf	lol Calinou
18:06	Calinou	hisforever, what mods do you use? homedecor?
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18:07	hisforever	dreambuilders
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18:08	Krock	kaeza, and seen[v] = true is set after "if type(v.."?
18:08	VanessaE	hisforever: use worldedit to remove it
18:08	kaeza	oh yes
18:08	kaeza	Krock, actually, gimme a few mins and I'll give you a table copy that keeps refs
18:08	VanessaE	(normally any ordinary axe or pick will do, or even remove by hand)
18:08	Krock	kaeza, that keeps the refs? interesting
18:09	hisforever	you mean /worldedtit Vanessa?
18:10	VanessaE	hisforever: I mean the worldedit mod.
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18:10	VanessaE	when you can't dig something, use worldedit.
18:10	VanessaE	it's part of dreambuilder
18:10	VanessaE	//p set
18:11	VanessaE	then punch two corners around the node
18:11	VanessaE	you will see a checkered box surround it
18:11	VanessaE	then do  //set air
18:11	VanessaE	the node will disappear
18:11	VanessaE	then do  //reset
18:11	hisforever	ok ty
18:11	VanessaE	the checkered box will disappear
18:11	VanessaE	be careful when you   //set air
18:12	VanessaE	make sure only the region you want to delete is enclosed by the checkered box :)
18:12	VanessaE	if it's not right, just do   //p set   and punch two corners again
18:12	VanessaE	btw, update your dreambuilder, the latest plantlife is in there and it's much less laggy now
18:13	VanessaE	(if you haven't updated since say, last week)
18:13	hisforever	sorry how do I get into this worldedit?
18:14	kaeza	Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0
18:15	VanessaE	hisforever: just type those commands and watch your chat console at the top of the screen
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18:15	Krock	kaeza, neat. thank you!
18:15	kaeza	sure
18:15	VanessaE	hisforever: type:   //p set
18:16	VanessaE	hisforever: then punch two nodes that are diagonally adjacent to and opposite sides of the couch you need to delete
18:16	VanessaE	hisforever: then you will see a checkered box appear surrounding the couch.  type:  //set air    and then   //reset
18:16	VanessaE	the couch will disappear and then the checkered box will disappear.
18:16	hisforever	ok ty
18:20	hisforever	ok I typed /p set and I get an invalad comand
18:20	VanessaE	two slashes.
18:21	VanessaE	//p set
18:21	VanessaE	same for the  //set air  command  and  //reset
18:21	hisforever	is there a page I can ggo to for these comands Vaness
18:22	VanessaE	hisforever: yes, you could look here, but it would be way too much info I think:  https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/Chat%20Commands.md
18:22	VanessaE	every command supported by worldedit should be listed there.
18:22	hisforever	ok ty I'll go there
18:24	kaeza	Krock, sorry, I corrected the gist a second after pasting the link here, it should be seen[v], not seen[otable]
18:24	kaeza	(ntable[k] = seen[v])
18:25	Krock	kaeza, and "if seen[otable] then" would be always true...
18:25	kaeza	that too
18:25	kaeza	if seen[v] then ...
18:25	kaeza	the first one, seet[otable] = nt is OK
18:25	kaeza	seen*
18:26	Krock	:D I was able to commit without an error message (using amend)
18:26	kaeza	:D
18:27	Sokomine	OldCoder: why merge new defaults? why did you need to, and what did you change?
18:29	Sokomine	btw, anyone having a good idea how to handle mirroring/flipping of a building? normal nodes are no problem; nodeboxes are a diffrent matter...those cannot always be mirrored
18:29	OldCoder	Sokomine, because the world has blocks from both the old and the new defaults!
18:29	OldCoder	Both
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18:46	Sokomine	OldCoder: which blocks in particular? there ought to be none such blocks
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18:52	hisforever	Vanessa I did it all and it deleted the floor, its acting like the couch is not there. I can't  //pset the couch I hops this makes sence lol
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18:55	VanessaE	you were supposed to make the select box enclose the couch :)
18:56	VanessaE	that means selecting something *above* it as well as below it :)
18:56	hisforever	I did
18:56	VanessaE	nope, you selected only the floor :)
18:56	VanessaE	you must have gone to one side, then the other but you didn't go up above the couch when you selected the second corner.
18:57	hisforever	ok I'll try it again
18:57	VanessaE	try again, don't be afraid of erasing more floor - you can always rebuild it later
18:57	VanessaE	or put some dirt down and select that
18:57	hisforever	I think I understand brb
18:57	VanessaE	ok
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19:02	ThatGraemeGuy	VanessaE: are the apple trees in dreambuilder meant to drop saplings?
19:03	VanessaE	ThatGraemeGuy: they should, yes.  Don't they?
19:03	ThatGraemeGuy	oh wait
19:03	VanessaE	their drop ratio is very low
19:03	ThatGraemeGuy	there appear to be 2 type of apple tree
19:03	hisforever	Ty Vanessa sorry I'm slow at getting things but it did get rid of it
19:03	VanessaE	hisforever: ok no worries.  btw how DID you end up with half a couch anyway?
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19:04	VanessaE	ThatGraemeGuy: there's only one type of apple tree these days, but if your world has been around for more than a few months, you will see some of the older apple trees also
19:04	VanessaE	as far as I know anyway
19:04	hisforever	don't know
19:05	ThatGraemeGuy	i'm on your survival server
19:06	ThatGraemeGuy	ah there we go
19:06	ThatGraemeGuy	suddenly 2 saplings, go figure
19:07	ThatGraemeGuy	and i have a lava source that doesn't want to play nice
19:07	ThatGraemeGuy	i.e. won't flow nicely in my pumice-making setup
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19:20	OldCoder	Sokomine, I'll need to diff. There were several. But lots of things are fixed now. And there is an IRC channel for the world.
19:20	OldCoder	Location is in the news file on join
19:20	OldCoder	VanessaE, most issues are now fixed; come and see the cool world
19:20	OldCoder
19:21	OldCoder	ANNOUNCE: SilverCrab is up and mostly repaired. Server is minetest.org and port is 30019
19:21	OldCoder
19:21	OldCoder	IRC channel for SilverCrab is announced when you join the world
19:21	OldCoder
19:21	PenguinDad	https://kentonv.github.io/capnproto/ rofl
19:21	OldCoder	Sokomine, I want to revive the buggy world we discussed; the one where you had a little house
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19:22	* _Estenan	facepalms
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19:24	Jordach	lel
19:25	_Esteban	x)
19:26	_Esteban	why u dislike norton?
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19:27	Jordach	because overprotective spyware
19:28	_Esteban	Oh
19:29	_Esteban	yeah, I only had one incident like that with the sprite editor, at least has a restore option :P
19:32	Jordach	(if anyone asks, i am working on a multidoor system for BFD)
19:33	Calinou	>2014 >antivirus
19:33	Krock	silvercrab?
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19:33	Calinou	OldCoder, joining…
19:33	Calinou	Krock, redcrab's server continuation
19:33	Calinou	but I can't connect apparently
19:33	Krock	Calinou, so, in old 0.3.1 style or what?
19:34	PenguinDad	Krock: more like 0.4.4 style
19:34	Krock	...that's what I mean
19:35	PenguinDad	0.4.4 was also my first minetest version </nostalgia>
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19:36	_Esteban	mine was a 4.6-dev and my username was completelydifferent!
19:36	Amaz	Same here, PenguinDad!
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19:38	Calinou	0.4.3, even
19:38	Calinou	I can connect now
19:39	kaeza	Mine was 0.4.3. I remember the great transition to 3D models :D
19:42	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
19:42	* Jordach	sits there waiting for minetest.org 30019
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19:42	sfan5	Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do?
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19:43	PenguinDad	Stupidity!
19:43	* PenguinDad	hides
19:43	* sfan5	curls up to PenguinDad's lap
19:43	Jordach	sfan5, i don't know
19:44	* Nerotic	pushes sfan5 off rebeldads lap, and gets on
19:44	* sfan5	meows at Nerotic
19:44	_Esteban	what are the new features in the new windows?
19:44	* sfan5	throws around with cats
19:44	_Esteban	this gaming peasant does not have a decent pc for gaming
19:44	* Nerotic	hisses at sfan5
19:44	sfan5	_Esteban: better windows (not even joking)
19:45	Jordach	"You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!"
19:45	* sfan5	purrs at Nerotic
19:45	sfan5	Jordach: what about laptops?
19:45	Jordach	"You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!"
19:45	Jordach	read again
19:45	sfan5	I'm aware
19:45	sfan5	but what do "they" think about laptops
19:45	Calinou	<sfan5> Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do?
19:45	Calinou	do you have proof?
19:45	Calinou	the EULA has always been laughably bad
19:45	* Nerotic	trills at sfan5
19:45	Jordach	Calinou, go check yourself you Linux using skrub
19:46	sfan5	Calinou: do you want a screenshot?
19:46	Calinou	well… or just a link to the EULA itself
19:46	Calinou	do it
19:46	sfan5	!g windows 10 tp eula
19:46	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://windowsitpro.com/
19:46	sfan5	no
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19:46	sfan5	!g windows 10 tp download
19:46	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
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19:47	sfan5	Calinou: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement
19:47	sfan5	Calinou: "enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features."
19:47	Calinou	technical preview only
19:47	sfan5	yeah
19:48	Calinou	sfan5, but only in search fields?
19:48	sfan5	we're talking about that
19:48	Calinou	they already do that on Windows 8 when you search something
19:48	Calinou	(can be disabled)
19:48	sfan5	no
19:48	sfan5	not only search fields
19:48	sfan5	everywhere
19:48	Calinou	also, /etc/hosts to the rescue :P
19:48	sfan5	as if that would help
19:48	sfan5	no network adapter to the rescue
19:48	Nerotic	we still talking about windows :/
19:49	Calinou	why wouldn't it help?
19:52	Krock	windows exist to open and close
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19:54	_Esteban	http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55002413.jpg
19:54	Jordach	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzExIKnVrzI
19:54	Jordach	top kek
19:54	sfan5	!title
19:54	MinetestBot	sfan5: Angry Dews (MLG) - YouTube
19:55	* Jordach	returns to Super Smash 3DS
19:55	sfan5	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DltFjg20NVs
19:55	sfan5	^ Jordach
19:55	Jordach	u fuckin wot m9
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20:03	PenguinDad	Jordach: Sir you made me rofl
20:03	_Esteban	^ so do I! x)
20:03	_Esteban	cya guys!
20:04	* Brains	passes by and mentions that his trouble before did stem from his modification to luaentities.lua...  He didn't wrap the write to file in the check so it blew away the luaentities file (just contained "return nil") and that crashes the server.
20:05	* Krock	gives PenguinDad Brains
20:05	PenguinDad	eee​w
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20:15	PenguinDad	Did MLG invade the internet within one week? O_O
20:18	iqualfragile	PenguinDad: wat is MLG?
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20:21	Krock	my little game
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20:34	ShadowNinja	Sokomine: It seems like OC has an old version of your redcrab map without my house, can you make a .we of it?
20:35	ShadowNinja	Sokomine: Or upload a newer DB and he can merge them.
20:37	Krock	Sokomine, I can't download the complete redcrab map. the server closes the connection at 21 MB
20:38	Sokomine	Krock: please talk to erthome about that. the map is hosted on his server
20:38	Krock	Sokomine, how can I reach him/her?
20:38	Sokomine	ShadowNinja: another player has gathered map data automaticly. perhaps he can help
20:39	Sokomine	Krock: forum might work
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20:56	OldCoder	Krock, Sokomine what is the link?
20:56	Krock	OldCoder, https://onehorseworld.com/minetest/Redcrab.zip
20:57	OldCoder	Krock, let me try
20:57	OldCoder	Moment more
20:58	OldCoder	I got it. Sokomine does this copy have ShadowNinja house?
20:59	OldCoder	Krock, did you want this ZIP file?
20:59	Krock	OldCoder, yeah. the server broke the connetio after a while
20:59	Krock	*connection
20:59	OldCoder	Hm
20:59	OldCoder	I think this copy is older than mine
20:59	Krock	you've got one, too?
21:00	OldCoder	I'm running the world right now
21:00	OldCoder	All repaired etc.
21:00	Krock	uuuuh
21:00	OldCoder	server minetest.org port 30019
21:00	OldCoder	Might be better for your purposes
21:00	OldCoder	The linked one is from Fall 2013
21:00	OldCoder	I think mine postdated that but not sure
21:01	Krock	*tries to join*
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21:07	OldCoder	iqualfragile, Hi
21:07	OldCoder	Sokomine, Krock notes that travelnets are corrupted. Should I remove them pending new ones?
21:07	* OldCoder	is resting for a bit
21:07	iqualfragile	hello OldCoder
21:08	iqualfragile	RealBadAngel: i think https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua
21:08	iqualfragile	correction: merged with https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua
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21:16	MichaelEh	:waves
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21:35	MichaelEh	tries to get MCEdit to work to extract MC data
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21:36	Sokomine	OldCoder: hmm. disabling them for now might actually help a bit. perhaps i ought to teach them to recover...
21:37	Sokomine	MichaelEh: talk to sfan5. mc data may under some circumstances be converted more directly
21:37	MichaelEh	trying to get this (Big Sight) to convert http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/japan--tokyo-big-sight--comic-market1710/
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21:39	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with itself?
21:40	iqualfragile	ShadowNinja: yes! thats absolutely what i was trying to say... let me try again, maybe this time i won't mix up the links
21:40	hisforever	is dreambuilders flat thats all I see?
21:40	iqualfragile	ShadowNinja/RealBadAngel: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/LV/grinder.lua and https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged
21:43	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: Nah, register/ is supposed to be completely tier-independent.  The tier subfolders include the registrations for the machines.  This means that con can cmpletely remove all eg, HV, machines by just removing one line from machines/init.lua.
21:43	ShadowNinja	that you can completely*
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21:48	iqualfragile	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
21:49	Jordach	Is the real world anti-aliased or aliased. Discuss.
21:50	rickmcfarley	lol
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21:51	PilzAdam	Jordach, what do you mean by aliased? as in signals being aliased, or as in memory being aliased?
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21:56	Jordach	PilzAdam, like how Minetest's entities, blocks and tools can have smooth edges and not a hard edge
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22:05	OldCoder	Sokomine, should I remove travelnet and delete blocks?
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22:09	iqualfragile	hello shadowzone
22:09	shadowzone	hi.
22:10	iqualfragile	why do you put dots behind single words?
22:10	shadowzone	I dunno.
22:11	PenguinDad	iqualfragile: I. am. not. sure. why. you. ask. that. :P
22:12	iqualfragile	…
22:12	iqualfragile	thanks to unicode that was a single char
22:15	iqualfragile	im not too sure, but it seems to me that the minecraft-takeover actually led to more people hanging around in #minetest
22:15	iqualfragile	sfan5 has stats, i think
22:15	shadowzone	Hmm.
22:15	shadowzone	I think you may be right.
22:16	shadowzone	I believe there are 154 users.
22:18	PenguinDad	shadowzone: sorry there are only 149 real people in this channel
22:18	iqualfragile	ShadowNinja: now 152, but yes
22:18	shadowzone	Really?
22:18	iqualfragile	which one is the bot?
22:18	iqualfragile	(well, besides chanserv and minetestbot)
22:19	shadowzone	HLuaBot?
22:19	* PenguinDad	just noticed that HLuaBot isn't here
22:19	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: "Now 152"?
22:19	shadowzone	Which used to me here.
22:19	ShadowNinja	Oh, NVM.
22:19	shadowzone	My question is.
22:19	shadowzone	What's the most you've ever seen on this channel only?
22:20	iqualfragile	160+
22:20	iqualfragile	sfan5: gib stats
22:20	ShadowNinja	This channel used to max out at about 100.  It gets to 160 or so now.
22:20	shadowzone	Wow.
22:21	* PenguinDad	quickscopes the stats :>
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22:31	oOChainLynxOo	Afk
22:31	shadowzone	oOChainLynxOo, you gonna join the other #minetest?
22:31	cg72	no
22:31	shadowzone	:(
22:31	shadowzone	I want to tell him to check steam.
22:31	cg72	what the hell is steam?
22:31	shadowzone	Look it up.
22:32	shadowzone	It's gaming software.
22:33	PenguinDad	Steam or something I never got running on linux
22:33	shadowzone	http://store.steampowered.com/
22:33	cities	I'm gonna check out the other minetest at some point shadowzone
22:33	cities	Soon as I get a shell
22:33	cities	And connect more than two networks
22:33	shadowzone	I got it running on my PC running linux.
22:33	cities	Passat
22:34	shadowzone	I got it from the software manager.
22:36	oOChainLynxOo	Back
22:37	shadowzone	oOChainLynxOo, go check your steam.
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23:08	hisforever	In dreambuilders is there a way to make the land less flat?
23:09	hisforever	the train needs to be morw mountainus
23:09	hisforever	more
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23:28	Sokomine	OldCoder: wait a moment. i'm doing an update for travelnet
23:30	hisforever	hot much chatter tonight
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23:32	shadowzone	Nope.
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