Time Nick Message 01:21 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Allow only boat driver to be detached from boat (fixes #276) 13349a63e http://git.io/nLD6Wg (152014-10-03T03:20:31+02:00) 01:26 hisforever what is a mob_archer? 01:26 jojoa1997 hisforever link to code? 01:27 * Fritigern would thinkk that mob_archer is the MT equivalent of a skeleton 01:27 hisforever ok hummm 01:27 Fritigern Just guessing.... 01:28 hisforever I have a body in my single player thats look mad lol 01:28 hisforever would love to get rid of him 01:28 Fritigern KILL IT!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!! 01:28 hisforever ok I'll try it 01:29 Fritigern Do not forget to make a sacrifice to the Node of Nodes 01:46 hisforever I have Neuromancer game is there a way to disable the meanies that are in this game lol' 01:47 hisforever or should I just find another game? 01:48 hisforever I just like to build mine and eat lol don't want monsters hehe 01:49 hisforever night all thanks for the help today its bed time 01:49 hisforever God bless 01:51 Fritigern !tell hisforever If you just want to build, mine and farm, you'd be better off finding a game without mobs. 01:51 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when hisforever is around 02:28 andre_pl_ is there a lua json library available to minetest mods? or something similar like yaml? 02:48 * Zeno` drops a pin 02:48 Zeno` Anyone hear that? 02:49 VanessaE ssssshhhhhhh 02:50 * friti throws Zeno` an angry look "Can we PLEAASE have some peace and quiet in here?" 02:50 friti :-)) 02:51 Fritigern Darn, i really should fix this nick issue 02:51 Zeno` lol 03:02 Fritigern I think i may have fixed that stupid nick thing 03:03 Fritigern VanessaE: Did you get my message about the spider webs? 03:03 VanessaE ? 03:03 VanessaE what message? 03:03 Fritigern My logs are missing, or i would have pasted it. You were either asleep, or just AFK 03:03 VanessaE are they broken? 03:03 Zeno` no spiders in them 03:03 VanessaE oh 03:03 Fritigern Well, they are broken, unless it's intentional behavior. 03:04 VanessaE having no spiders on the webs is intentional yes :) 03:05 Fritigern Don;t listen to Zeno, he's not speaking for me. 03:05 VanessaE heh ok 03:05 Fritigern I meant to use them to resemble smoke from a chimney, but the first web is 3D, but the next one is sitting flat against the first web. 03:06 VanessaE oh, that's neither a bug nor intentional, rather just a corner case that I didn't bother to catch because of how I expected people to use them is all 03:06 Fritigern Some still were 3D (as in visibly took up the sapce of a single node), but they are very unpredictable 03:07 VanessaE they always try to fill a corner if there is one, or suspend between two opposite walls, or lay flat on a wall, or if none of the above then they take up a whole node 03:08 Fritigern Can it be made so that a corner, formed with two ro more webs, or a web+another node, does not regiaster as a corner? 03:08 VanessaE oh sure 03:08 VanessaE that's easily done, I just didn't expect anyone to try that :) 03:09 VanessaE question is what should the code do in that case? 03:10 VanessaE the easiest action is the fall-through, 03:10 VanessaE which is to take up a whole node 03:10 VanessaE in which case I can simply ignore any webs when checking for wall nodes 03:13 Fritigern Pics of how i have used the webs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3kkplekor7e5tda/Smoky.png?dl=0 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/5hwm2quoy8xosv6/Smoky2.png?dl=0 03:13 VanessaE now THAT is an interesting trick 03:14 Fritigern To be quite honest, it's rather common on MC 03:14 VanessaE yeah, making them simply default to the plantlike/whole node shape is bext 03:14 VanessaE best* 03:14 VanessaE ok, I will fix that. 03:14 VanessaE lemme take a quick look 03:14 Fritigern Have as many looks as you like, quick, not-so-quick or nesquick ;-) 03:16 VanessaE Fritigern: apply this to your homedecor and try it out. http://pastebin.com/YCCdECT7 03:16 Fritigern BTW, my builds are never anything impressive. I just lack imagination and/or tenacity to make something that looks like the stuff that has impressed me 03:16 Fritigern And i will! 03:16 VanessaE tell me if that's the effect you were looking for 03:17 VanessaE hm, wait 03:17 VanessaE that didn't work :P 03:18 VanessaE oh, oops 03:18 VanessaE copy&paste error. 03:19 VanessaE yeah, ignore that patch entire.y 03:19 VanessaE entirely* 03:19 VanessaE apply this instead: http://pastebin.com/8wzmS6xY 03:22 Fritigern Ignored, and new one applied (i have never figured out how to apply a diff, so copy/pasted it manually) 03:22 Fritigern OMG! YOU MADE MY COMPUTER EXPLODE!!! IT'S ON FIRE!!!!! 03:22 VanessaE haha 03:22 Fritigern :-))) 03:23 Fritigern You believe me, right? 03:23 Zeno` I am speaking for Zeno`: There are no spiders 03:23 VanessaE yeah about as far as I can throw you ;) 03:23 Fritigern Have i ever lied to you? 03:23 Fritigern I mean, did you ever catch me? 03:23 rickmcfarley Fritigern: smoke looks cool 03:25 Fritigern VanessaE: It works great! The webs being able to be placed flat against the wall is still a bit unexpected for someone who is used to MC's behaviour of webs, but now it is predicatable, and the webs can be much easier be used for smoke! 03:26 Fritigern rickmcfarley: Thank you! 03:26 VanessaE Fritigern: good deal. I have never played MC so I'm not aware of how its cobwebs differ in that flat-on-wall behavior though 03:26 VanessaE what does it do? 03:27 * VanessaE pushes that commit. 03:27 Fritigern In MC, the webs have just one way of placement. Like a full node. 03:27 VanessaE ahhh 03:27 VanessaE yeah, I wanted something with some actual placement logic. 03:27 VanessaE in fact they now seem to form almost sideways rails :D 03:29 * Fritigern thinks about trying to put together a game or modpack that mimics MC as closely as possible, using currently available mods, but WITHOUT mobs. :-) 03:31 Fritigern Then again, i am sure that it has been done before. I'd better try to be a little more original 03:31 VanessaE attempts have been made but no one has really succeeded I don't think 03:34 Fritigern Wel, i wonder. Should i attampt this, and should i be (moderately) succesful. It could be a good entry point for MC veterans 03:34 Fritigern As long as they keep in mind that MT != MC 03:35 Fritigern Just like OpenSim != Second Life 03:36 Fritigern There are strong similarities, but there are also profound and deliberate differences. 03:55 * VanessaE shrugs .. go for it, Fritigern :-) 04:17 OldCoder I 04:17 OldCoder I'm trying to figure out how much of RedCrab I have 04:17 OldCoder Does anybody know the coords of anything in RedCrab? And what is the teleport command? 04:18 VanessaE no idea where everything is, but there is an old map on the forum thread, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1705 04:19 OldCoder What is the teleport command? 04:19 VanessaE /teleport xxxx,yyyy,zzzz will get you around 04:19 OldCoder I thought so but it's being ignored 04:19 OldCoder So is /time even though I have Name 04:19 VanessaE odd. 04:20 VanessaE oh btw, remember "death plants" or whatever it was you called them? :) they went to the master branch of plantlife. update ASAP. 04:20 OldCoder kk 04:20 OldCoder What could be wrong if /time is ignored? 04:20 VanessaE that would suggest lag, or disconnect. 04:20 OldCoder Restarting 04:20 VanessaE sometimes the server will disconnect from the client without actually telling it to do so 04:21 VanessaE it's some obscure networking glitch 04:21 OldCoder Better 04:21 OldCoder OK looks like I have part of RedCrab 04:22 OldCoder Rob565 or whatever has the rest 04:27 OldCoder VanessaE, others: ANNOUNCE: Try out minetest.org port 30019 SilverCrab. This is part of RedCrab. Somebody find Rob565 etc. and ask him to copy the rest to me. 04:28 VanessaE ehm.. 04:28 VanessaE /spawn puts me in a black void. 04:28 OldCoder Hm? I fixed that 04:28 OldCoder Wait 04:29 OldCoder How do I grant all to you? 04:29 VanessaE /grant VanessaEzekowitz all 04:29 VanessaE but you don't need to 04:29 VanessaE hm, unified inventory eh? 04:29 OldCoder Suggest changes as you wish 04:30 OldCoder Fixed spawn 04:31 VanessaE now to figure out where the hell I am :) 04:31 OldCoder But need to restart 04:31 OldCoder You are near me 04:31 VanessaE PH! 04:31 VanessaE oH! 04:31 VanessaE I'm right by my house! 04:31 OldCoder Is it there? 04:31 VanessaE yep, I'm at the front door thereof 04:31 OldCoder Are the innards there? 04:32 VanessaE yes but your map is out of date a bit 04:32 OldCoder By a few months 04:32 OldCoder Do you know Rob565? 04:32 VanessaE I replaced these TVs with the ones from homedecor many moons ago :) 04:32 OldCoder Name approximate 04:32 VanessaE nope, I do not 04:32 OldCoder He supposedly has a current copy of the map 04:32 OldCoder If somebody finds him and asks, I can host the whole thing 04:33 OldCoder Make a list of mod changes needed 04:33 VanessaE but yeah, everything's here so far' 04:33 VanessaE lemme explore around a bit 04:33 OldCoder Quitip 04:33 OldCoder What does that mean? 04:33 OldCoder Large brick sign 04:34 VanessaE where? 04:34 OldCoder Near 296, 43, 120 04:34 OldCoder May I restart to set spawn? 04:34 OldCoder Oh, wait 04:35 VanessaE wait a moment 04:36 VanessaE the spawn should be at -12, +8, -29 btw 04:37 VanessaE anyway everything along the path between my house and the spawn seems to be in good order so far 04:37 VanessaE go ahead and restart at your leisure 04:37 VanessaE OH 04:37 OldCoder Setting spawn 04:37 OldCoder Go on 04:37 Zeno` Does it need a restart? /set doesn't do the trick? 04:37 OldCoder static_spawnpoint = -12, 8, -29 ? 04:37 OldCoder Zeno`, give full command 04:38 VanessaE I keep seeing "ERROR[main]: Map:setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "tv:screen_x" at (foo) (block (bar)) 04:38 VanessaE where x, foo, and bar are variable depending on where I am 04:38 OldCoder Wait 04:38 Zeno` /set static_spawnpoint = -12, 9, -29 04:38 OldCoder I tried that, it worked, but seems to be inside something 04:38 Zeno` I don't know if that updates the .conf file so you probably need to update it there as well 04:39 OldCoder Yes, but the location is wrong 04:39 Zeno` /set static_spawnpoint -12, 9, -29 04:39 OldCoder VanessaE, thanks, reviewing tv 04:39 Brains Well that was interesting... Apparently pouring water from a water can over a mailbox destroys the mailbox. 04:39 VanessaE also, below the spawn building, I see a mass of unknown nodes 04:39 VanessaE but //inspect does not tell me what they are 04:40 OldCoder VanessaE, well, suggestions from anybody are welcome 04:40 OldCoder Shall I drop tv ? 04:40 VanessaE no, don't drop it, I fixed it a while back. there should be a zip or so on Jordach's thread for it 04:40 OldCoder Hm. Link? 04:40 VanessaE but at the time, all I was fixing was a broken image link 04:40 VanessaE not a broken node link 04:41 OldCoder Something to do with the missing nodes 04:41 VanessaE yeah, looks like the ABM that swaps the TV images is trying to swap in an undefined TV node 04:41 OldCoder All of this looks repairable 04:41 VanessaE yes, quite so 04:41 VanessaE just little glitches 04:41 OldCoder What's the command to tap on an unknown block? 04:41 VanessaE //inspect on 04:41 VanessaE then punch it 04:42 VanessaE but it doesn't work here 04:42 VanessaE at least not with these particular ones 04:42 VanessaE one sec 04:42 OldCoder Snow needles. They'll disappear when I reset the world. 04:42 VanessaE can you tail -f debug.txt please? 04:42 OldCoder Yes 04:42 OldCoder Moment 04:43 OldCoder Had it turned off 04:43 OldCoder Will restart with (a) reset world (b) new spawn (c) debug on 04:45 VanessaE waiting. 04:45 OldCoder Moment 04:45 OldCoder Fixes take 90 seconds you know :P 04:45 VanessaE haha 04:45 OldCoder Deleting a few mods 04:47 OldCoder Restarted 04:48 VanessaE hm, digging that unknown block just causes it to reappear. that's unusual. 04:48 OldCoder Invalid command /spawn ? 04:48 VanessaE invalid. 04:48 OldCoder ? 04:48 OldCoder Shouldn't it work? 04:48 VanessaE you bwoke it! :P 04:49 OldCoder Hm 04:49 OldCoder Um, how? 04:50 VanessaE you must have deleted the mod that supplies that command 04:50 OldCoder I don't think so 04:50 OldCoder Checking 04:50 VanessaE btw, did you change the fly speed? it seems slower. 04:50 OldCoder What should it be? 04:50 VanessaE 20m/s 04:50 OldCoder What is the setting? 04:51 VanessaE this feels more like around 10m/s or a bit less 04:51 OldCoder I mean 04:51 OldCoder How do I fix it? 04:51 VanessaE I'm not sure how it's set, usually some mod is used to change it 04:51 VanessaE some set player physics param 04:51 OldCoder I also don't see a mod that implements /spawn 04:51 VanessaE and I may be wrong about that 04:51 VanessaE did you have one of craig's "misc" modpacks? 04:52 OldCoder No 04:52 OldCoder I don't think so 04:52 VanessaE there is definitely a physics override in place here 04:52 VanessaE movement is very sharp and sudden 04:53 OldCoder Can list all the mods; will ask people for help 04:53 OldCoder But what happened to /spawn ? 04:53 * VanessaE looks 04:53 OldCoder I deleted the landrush* mods 04:53 VanessaE nether? 04:53 OldCoder and boats 04:53 OldCoder What about nether? 04:53 VanessaE you should remove that if you want to keep a standard redcrab map, that wasn't on the original :) 04:53 VanessaE but then again a lot of this stuff wasn't :P 04:53 VanessaE so that's up to you 04:53 * VanessaE looks some more 04:53 OldCoder It is a fake nether 04:54 VanessaE oh ok 04:54 OldCoder So, is /spawn a mod or core... 04:54 * OldCoder is not clear 04:54 OldCoder Wait, VanessaE... I can delete those blocks 04:54 VanessaE what is this "affects" mod? 04:54 OldCoder They need to be divided by 16 ? 04:54 OldCoder Reviewing 04:55 VanessaE /spawn is a mod 04:55 OldCoder But I didn't delete it 04:55 OldCoder What is the mod? 04:55 VanessaE /home is core (well minetest_game) 04:55 VanessaE one sec, I'll paste the one I uase 04:55 VanessaE use 04:55 OldCoder Affects 04:55 OldCoder This adds an API to easily affect players in various ways, both positive and neg 04:55 OldCoder ative. 04:56 VanessaE here we go. make a new mod of this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8483570/ 04:56 OldCoder R 04:56 VanessaE ( spawn/init.lua ) 04:56 OldCoder Got it 04:56 VanessaE and set your server's static_spawnpoint accordingly 04:57 OldCoder Added 04:57 OldCoder Now, are the blocks that are weird 04:57 OldCoder coords divide by 16 to delete at DB level? 04:57 VanessaE yes 04:57 OldCoder Good 04:58 OldCoder I think I can handle that 04:58 VanessaE sorry, I didn't catch that earlier. :) 04:58 OldCoder Some nice stuff here 04:58 VanessaE wtf? 04:58 OldCoder Hm? 04:58 VanessaE why can't I get an //inspect on these unknown nodes? 04:59 OldCoder Nice buildings 04:59 VanessaE over here to the west of the spawn 04:59 OldCoder VanessaE, possible to worldedit them? 04:59 VanessaE the Ru building 04:59 VanessaE oh I'm sure I could but I don't wanna destroy them 04:59 VanessaE wait 04:59 VanessaE are these... 04:59 VanessaE I bet these are wool 05:00 OldCoder But I have wool 05:00 OldCoder checking 05:00 VanessaE the OLD wool 05:00 VanessaE the 32-color mone 05:00 VanessaE one* 05:00 OldCoder Wait 05:00 OldCoder October 2013 05:00 OldCoder Hang on, back installing 05:00 VanessaE the in-game wool mod is a bastardized version of the old one. It only has like 15 colors. 05:01 OldCoder Hm 05:01 OldCoder VanessaE, how do I disable ingame? I *had* the old one 05:01 VanessaE so yeah, if you find the old one and it still works, just delete the in-game one outright 05:01 OldCoder Minetest 0.4 mod: wool 05:01 OldCoder ====================== 05:01 OldCoder Mostly backward-compatible with jordach's 16-color wool mod. 05:01 VanessaE ok good 05:01 OldCoder Where is the in-game one? 05:01 VanessaE just rm -rf minetest_game/wool 05:01 OldCoder Ah ty 05:02 OldCoder Wait, you mean silvercrab_game/wool? 05:02 OldCoder Then what? 05:02 VanessaE well yeah :) 05:02 OldCoder Where do I get the correct one? 05:02 VanessaE one sec, lemme see if I can find it 05:02 OldCoder Also what about woolcraft 05:03 VanessaE you won't need that 05:03 OldCoder Delete it? 05:03 VanessaE is I can find the old mod anyway 05:03 VanessaE yes 05:03 OldCoder kk 05:06 VanessaE maybe it wasn't 32 colors... 05:06 VanessaE http://www.mediafire.com/?d9nzvn12xmf2i2r 05:06 OldCoder R 05:06 VanessaE this is the 16 color version 05:06 VanessaE that might be what redcrab was using 05:06 OldCoder Isn't that what I just deleted? 05:06 VanessaE no, you deleted the in-game one, which isn't complete 05:06 VanessaE for example, in-game lacks gold 05:06 VanessaE and a few others 05:06 VanessaE try that link 05:06 OldCoder am 05:07 OldCoder Added 05:07 OldCoder VanessaE, my hammer is an unknown block 05:07 OldCoder What mod shall I add? 05:08 VanessaE glooptest has hammers, but I don't think that's what redcrab used 05:08 VanessaE um.. 05:08 OldCoder glooptest was incompatible I think 05:08 VanessaE I'm not sure off the top of my head 05:08 OldCoder Odd, where do hammers come from? 05:08 OldCoder Should I delete farming and farming+ ? 05:08 VanessaE castle mod has a hammer, and I think cottages has too 05:09 VanessaE farming and farming_plus should be fine 05:09 OldCoder There is none in the default game? 05:09 VanessaE they'll probably stay out of the way 05:09 VanessaE correct, default game has no hammer 05:09 VanessaE (nor a knife for that matter) 05:09 OldCoder What does it use instead? 05:09 VanessaE (which it kinda needs) 05:09 VanessaE it doesn't use anything at all. odd huh? 05:09 OldCoder And what was RedCrab using, do you suppose? 05:09 VanessaE sec. 05:09 VanessaE I'll go look 05:10 VanessaE if I can. 05:10 OldCoder kk 05:11 VanessaE well the domain resolves, but the server does not connect. 05:12 OldCoder RedCrab? he is down 05:12 OldCoder That is the point 05:12 VanessaE oh derp 05:12 OldCoder So, what mod should I add to get a hammer? 05:12 VanessaE one moment. 05:12 OldCoder And what will I see if I start a default game 05:12 OldCoder instead of a hammer? 05:14 VanessaE there are a number of mods that have hammers 05:14 OldCoder Which would be safest? 05:14 VanessaE but I can't think what redcrab would have used 05:14 OldCoder And what will I see if I start a default game 05:14 OldCoder instead of a hammer? 05:14 VanessaE you'd see an unknown item is all 05:14 VanessaE just as now 05:14 VanessaE nothing special, 05:14 OldCoder Hm. So when I start there is a hand? 05:14 VanessaE actually, you'd be holding a little pink square 05:15 OldCoder Ah 05:15 OldCoder Well, preparing to restart 05:15 VanessaE as for safest>? 05:16 VanessaE maybe cottages mod but that has lots of other stuff too 05:16 OldCoder kk 05:16 OldCoder So we don't know what he did 05:16 VanessaE castles I think has one, and it has less stuff 05:16 VanessaE he may have coded a custom tool for that 05:16 OldCoder Ah 05:16 OldCoder kk 05:17 VanessaE glooptest has hammers of course, but it has extra stuff also, and I doubt redcrab used that 05:17 OldCoder Very well 05:17 OldCoder So there was a redcrab::hammer 05:17 OldCoder And you can't inspect it? 05:17 VanessaE possibly 05:17 OldCoder Since you are holding it 05:17 VanessaE wait. 05:17 VanessaE hm, damn. 05:18 OldCoder Restarting, then 05:18 VanessaE if you could somehow duplicate the undefined item, you can then drop one on the ground and it'll show up in your log 05:18 OldCoder This pass has your spawn mod, the old wool, more mods removed 05:18 VanessaE (I say dupe it so that you don't lose it) 05:18 OldCoder Duplicate your hammer? 05:18 OldCoder Wait, it's in inventory\ 05:18 VanessaE I mean your hammer :) 05:18 VanessaE I don't have one 05:18 OldCoder Shouldn't I see it in the file ? 05:18 OldCoder I have one 05:19 VanessaE drop the undefined item on the ground and you'll see an entry in the debug log telling you the item name 05:19 VanessaE should give you an idea what the mod was 05:19 OldCoder How do I drop it? 05:19 VanessaE Q 05:19 Miner_48er why not look into your player file? 05:19 OldCoder I did 05:19 OldCoder It looks like 05:19 VanessaE oh derp 05:19 OldCoder landrush:landclaim 05:19 OldCoder Is that a hammer?? 05:19 VanessaE Miner_48er: good point, I didn't think od that 05:19 VanessaE OldCoder: er, no 05:20 OldCoder OK then 05:20 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, the wool was not the key 05:20 VanessaE we're still missing nodes 05:20 OldCoder Well, not surprising 05:20 VanessaE either that or.. 05:20 OldCoder Care to worldedit them? Or what does tapping on them do? 05:20 * VanessaE looks 05:21 VanessaE ok, that's the 16 color wool and not the default, for sure...so wtf were these nodes. 05:21 * VanessaE grumbles 05:21 OldCoder /spawn is working now thanks 05:21 OldCoder What happens if you tap on them? 05:21 * OldCoder likes fixing worlds 05:22 VanessaE nothing at all 05:22 OldCoder VanessaE, if you worldedit them 05:22 VanessaE //inspect on and then punch, just doesn't do anything 05:22 OldCoder will this show up in the logs? 05:22 VanessaE I could worldedit them out but I don't want to destroy them 05:22 OldCoder This is a temporary copy 05:22 OldCoder Destroy away if it will identify them 05:22 VanessaE wait, you got rollback? 05:23 OldCoder Probably 05:23 VanessaE dammit. 05:24 VanessaE rollback doesn't work here properly. 05:24 OldCoder I could add debug code 05:24 OldCoder Take just a minute to recompile 05:24 OldCoder WAIT 05:24 OldCoder VanessaE, I could just do an SQL dump 05:24 VanessaE ? 05:25 OldCoder and look at block -1,1,-1 05:25 VanessaE that might work 05:25 VanessaE I filled in some cobble for the missing nodes for now 05:25 VanessaE and left the rest of the undefined 05:25 OldCoder DOn't, this is a temporary world 05:25 VanessaE try the dump 05:25 OldCoder Just make notes 05:25 VanessaE no prob, just try the dump 05:25 VanessaE it might tell us what's missing here 05:26 Miner_48er you could do a WE schematic 05:26 VanessaE yes, good idea 05:26 OldCoder Proceed if you wish 05:26 VanessaE OldCoder: look for nodes.we 05:26 VanessaE what do you find in there? 05:26 OldCoder R 05:26 VanessaE should some dirt with grass, some cobble, a couple of stone tiles, and whatever these unknown nodes are 05:27 OldCoder R 05:27 OldCoder moreblocks:stone_tile 05:27 VanessaE pastebin it 05:27 OldCoder om 05:27 Miner_48er why not limit the schematic to the one unknown? 05:27 VanessaE Miner_48er: because I can't punch them 05:27 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/nodeswe.txt 05:27 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 05:27 VanessaE have to encluse the group 05:28 VanessaE enclose* 05:28 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/nodeswe.txt 05:28 Miner_48er have noclip? fly into them and set using //pos1 and //pos2 05:28 OldCoder I can do a dump; and there is the nodes.we file at: 05:29 VanessaE damn it. all "unknown" 05:29 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/nodeswe.txt 05:29 VanessaE figures. 05:29 OldCoder So I should delete them? 05:29 VanessaE no, 05:29 VanessaE dump the db 05:29 OldCoder Proceeding 05:29 OldCoder Pos is -16773121 05:29 VanessaE Miner_48er: it's an artifact of these nodes, they don't respond to punch at all, so I have to grab at least three nodes anyway. no matter, already got what I need. thanks for the tip though 05:30 VanessaE node coords -18,2,-46 05:30 OldCoder -1, 1, -1 ? 05:30 VanessaE approx. 05:30 OldCoder has one, right? 05:30 OldCoder divided by 16 05:31 OldCoder Dumping whole world 05:32 OldCoder O.K. I got the block in hexadecimal 05:32 OldCoder Now what :-) 05:32 OldCoder Easy to delete it 05:32 VanessaE node coords -12,2,-29 and the surroundings also 05:32 OldCoder But to decode it, where is the spec? 05:33 OldCoder Divide those by 16 ? 05:33 VanessaE yes 05:33 OldCoder So, -1, 0, -2 I think? 05:33 VanessaE I think so 05:33 OldCoder For negatives round down 05:34 OldCoder Got that too 05:34 OldCoder Ideas on where to find spec? 05:34 VanessaE no idea. 05:35 VanessaE I wonder if these were some kind of chests before? 05:35 OldCoder I think I got it 05:35 VanessaE they have meta, can't be dug so that means they have inventories with something in them, 05:36 OldCoder Hm 05:36 VanessaE and this is the wrong wool mod btw 05:36 OldCoder A few hours for me to write this 05:36 VanessaE you DID need the 32 color one 05:36 OldCoder So, not valid for now 05:37 OldCoder So, replace it with the previous one? O.K. 05:37 OldCoder I've got the block format 05:37 OldCoder But the actual ID of the object may be a bit complex 05:37 VanessaE got a sign here identifying an "unknown node" as "cyan", among a bunch of other wool blocks, and another is supposed to be "dark blue" but is normal blue 05:37 VanessaE no, we need to find the original 32-color wool that Joedach made 05:37 VanessaE Jordach* 05:37 OldCoder Hang on 05:37 VanessaE where the hell is it. 05:37 OldCoder Looking 05:37 OldCoder I have a number of copies of things 05:38 VanessaE the default game one isn't it, that's 15 colors 05:38 OldCoder it isn't in my backup of mods.ru 05:38 VanessaE or wait. 05:39 VanessaE restore the map from your backup, and keep the 16-color one 05:39 OldCoder Am I using the 16 color one now? 05:39 VanessaE maybe the attempt to use the in-game 15-color one screwed up the working copy. 05:39 VanessaE I think you have the 16-color one in place now yes. keep it. 05:39 OldCoder Keep the one I have now? I *did* restore the map 05:39 VanessaE restore it again. 05:39 OldCoder I've been reverting on each restart 05:39 OldCoder All right 05:39 VanessaE I think something is/was translating node names 05:39 OldCoder But first looking at SQL block format 05:39 VanessaE I've got a yellow wool here that's supposed to be gold 05:40 VanessaE and a blue that's supposed to be dark blue 05:40 VanessaE and unknown that's supposed to be cyan 05:40 OldCoder So, just restart? 05:40 VanessaE yes 05:40 OldCoder With revert? 05:40 VanessaE and yes 05:41 OldCoder Restarting in a moment 05:41 OldCoder First looking for an easy way to check the unknown blocks 05:41 OldCoder SQL may not be helpful 05:41 VanessaE they'll always have their original node nsame 05:41 VanessaE name* 05:42 OldCoder Restarting 05:44 OldCoder Should be up 05:45 VanessaE ok I have to guess the database got smashed when it was captured. no change. 05:45 OldCoder kk 05:45 Miner_48er VanessaE a beta of it https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=23968#p23968 05:45 VanessaE (except that the unknown nodes I nuked earlier have returned) 05:45 OldCoder I am reviewing the block 05:46 OldCoder Hm 05:46 OldCoder I can read this 05:46 VanessaE Miner_48er: bingo, that was the one - however that's not the problem 05:46 VanessaE it's gotta be the database 05:46 VanessaE because the map is calling for colors that OldCoder's mods are definitely supplying, e.g. gold and cyan 05:47 VanessaE I see gold, cyan, dark blue in the inventory 05:47 VanessaE but where they should be in the world, there are unknown blocks 05:47 VanessaE this suggests a mod smashed the node names at some point. a bad alias maybe 05:47 OldCoder VanessaE, I can read the SQL binary data directly 05:47 OldCoder But the individual nodes are buried in large blocks inside the 16 16 16 ones 05:48 OldCoder Can't solve it this way quickly 05:48 VanessaE OldCoder: look for references to wool:cyan or perhaps colour:cyan 05:48 OldCoder Proceeding 05:48 OldCoder ./wool/init.lua: output = 'wool:cyan 16', 05:48 OldCoder ./wool/init.lua: {'wool:cyan', 'wool:red'}, 05:48 OldCoder ./wool/init.lua: {'wool:cyan', 'wool:magenta'}, 05:48 OldCoder ./wool/init.lua:minetest.register_node("wool:cyan", { 05:48 OldCoder ./unifieddyes/init.lua: "dye:cyan", 05:48 OldCoder ./unifieddyes/init.lua: "dye:cyan", 05:48 OldCoder root@boldcoder:/opt/minetest0410/share/minetest/g 05:49 OldCoder Those are the :cyan references 05:49 VanessaE right, the mod is defining it 05:49 VanessaE I see it in the inventory 05:49 OldCoder Should I drop unifieddyes? 05:49 VanessaE naw, leave it 05:49 VanessaE it's not getting in the way. 05:49 OldCoder Is this separate from the bad blocks? 05:49 VanessaE yeah, it's unrelated. 05:49 OldCoder kk 05:49 VanessaE something smashed your map. 05:50 OldCoder Well, yes 05:50 OldCoder So, do I simply drop the bad blocks? 05:50 OldCoder Will air replace them? 05:50 VanessaE no, leave them be for now until we figure out what went wrong 05:50 VanessaE they can be replaced with valid nodes via worldedit once we understand what broke 05:51 OldCoder So, I shouldn't simply delete them? 05:51 VanessaE ope 05:51 VanessaE nope 05:51 OldCoder And why are they about TV sets? 05:51 VanessaE that one just needs a tweak is all 05:52 OldCoder So the TV set bug is not the same either? 05:52 VanessaE it's just trying to set a node via an ABM that it isn't defining first. 05:52 VanessaE unrelated, 05:52 OldCoder So three bugs 05:52 OldCoder (1) odd colors issue, could be a mod 05:52 VanessaE mmhmm 05:52 OldCoder (2) broken nodes, can worldedit them 05:52 OldCoder (3) TV set bug 05:52 OldCoder Is this so? 05:52 VanessaE (4) player run speed/physics seems a bit "off" 05:52 OldCoder I've removed most of the mods 05:53 OldCoder Hold on 05:53 OldCoder homedecor maptools moreores 05:53 OldCoder were modified by Sokomine for this day 05:53 OldCoder Need to use the modified versions 05:53 OldCoder NakedFury, Hi 05:53 OldCoder VanessaE, moment 05:54 OldCoder http://minetest.org/modsfun.txt 05:54 OldCoder Those are the current mods 05:55 VanessaE don't use pipeworks on this server 05:55 OldCoder Deleted 05:55 OldCoder Will disappear on next revert 05:55 VanessaE what is this "compatibility" mod? 05:56 OldCoder Wait 05:56 OldCoder This modpack contains only node definitions from removed mods. 05:56 OldCoder They are kept in game to prevent unknown nodes in already running world. 05:56 OldCoder carts nature nether tree_plus vines 05:56 OldCoder 05:57 VanessaE ok 05:57 VanessaE probably nothing there that's related 05:57 OldCoder To any of the issues? 05:57 OldCoder cyan seems odd! 05:57 VanessaE the rest of this seems benign 05:57 VanessaE huh? 05:57 OldCoder Missing cyan 05:57 OldCoder is odd 05:57 VanessaE oh, yes. 05:57 VanessaE lemme check something 05:58 OldCoder So the weird nodes might be chests? 05:58 OldCoder Not connected chests? 05:58 VanessaE no, I don't think so 05:59 OldCoder What else can cause no punch? 05:59 VanessaE I'm not sure what they were, but as for those wool blocks, I AM able to place those affected colors 05:59 VanessaE so this is a database glitch 05:59 VanessaE probably happened at capture-time 05:59 OldCoder Compatibility version? 05:59 VanessaE idk 05:59 OldCoder Compatibility issue * ? 05:59 OldCoder Well, the unknown blocks seem most significant 05:59 OldCoder and based on what you just said, the colors can be replaced 06:00 VanessaE indeed 06:00 VanessaE Sokomine: *poke* 06:00 VanessaE she would surely remember what was there 06:00 OldCoder It's early there 06:00 OldCoder ask her next time you see her 06:00 OldCoder I'll restart one more time 06:00 OldCoder to revert pipeworks 06:00 VanessaE ok 06:00 OldCoder and make any other changes for tonight 06:01 OldCoder I figure it would take me a number of discussions with core devs to make an SQL filter that fully understood initial nodes 06:01 OldCoder Useful tool! 06:01 OldCoder Probably not quick to do 06:01 OldCoder They pack 06:01 OldCoder 16x16x16 nodes together 06:01 OldCoder and zlib-compress the result 06:01 OldCoder Not easy to read in my head :-) 06:02 VanessaE heh 06:02 OldCoder Hm 06:02 OldCoder I *will* try to decompress it 06:13 OldCoder Hm 06:13 OldCoder I think I've got a list of things related to the blocks 06:14 OldCoder Heh 06:14 OldCoder VanessaE, the list includes "unknown" 06:14 OldCoder It's actually there in the DB as unknown 06:14 VanessaE fek. 06:14 VanessaE that means it was busted at capture time. 06:14 OldCoder Sokomine is the last word 06:15 OldCoder If she remembers, we replace that way 06:15 OldCoder Else I can just mass delete them 06:15 OldCoder Restarting 06:17 OldCoder VanessaE, I'll be asleep shortly. If you remember, talk to Sokomine. This world will be good as new, or at least usable, soon 06:17 VanessaE ok 06:17 VanessaE I'll try to remember 06:18 OldCoder It looks like we got a lot of it 06:18 OldCoder Plus Ron? 565? might have a more complete copy 06:18 OldCoder RedCrab will live on 06:18 Miner_48er OldCoder could you publish your decompression method. I haven't seen much documentation on that. 06:18 VanessaE yep, everything I looked at was definitely in please, minus those errant nodes 06:18 VanessaE all the *structure* was there for sure 06:18 VanessaE I wonder if my mine still exists :P 06:18 VanessaE (I doubt it :P ) 06:19 OldCoder Who can fix the TV mod? Miner_48er I can explain it later but in this case I didn't finish. I found the strings in an uncompressed section. 06:19 OldCoder VanessaE, it is underground 06:19 OldCoder Capture probably didn't go there 06:19 OldCoder We did get a lot of it 06:19 OldCoder And the insides seem to be there 06:20 VanessaE OldCoder: is THIS the TV mod you're using? https://github.com/Jordach/Minetest-Mods/tree/master/tv 06:20 VanessaE (note, that repo is a modpack) 06:20 OldCoder Yes, probably 06:21 VanessaE ok 06:21 OldCoder I'll update now and restart 06:21 VanessaE I see the error 06:21 VanessaE line 136 06:21 OldCoder Ah 06:21 VanessaE minetest.env:add_node(pos,{name="v:screen_10"}) 06:21 OldCoder Shall I clone and patch? 06:22 OldCoder *clone* 06:22 VanessaE should be "tv:screen_10" there. 06:22 VanessaE yes, clone and fix that one little bit there. 06:22 OldCoder clone is failing 06:22 OldCoder ZIP link? 06:22 VanessaE clone this, git@github.com:Jordach/Minetest-Mods.git 06:22 VanessaE or zip: https://github.com/Jordach/Minetest-Mods/archive/master.zip 06:22 OldCoder Access denied... 06:23 VanessaE ok, sec 06:23 OldCoder Wait 06:23 VanessaE clone THIS then, https://github.com/Jordach/Minetest-Mods.git 06:23 OldCoder Got it with last one 06:23 VanessaE ok 06:23 OldCoder He's got a wool in there 06:23 VanessaE yeah, ignore that 06:23 VanessaE that's the olllllllld 11-color one 06:24 VanessaE tv/init.lua line 136 06:24 OldCoder om 06:24 VanessaE should be "tv:screen_10" 06:24 OldCoder Patched 06:24 OldCoder restarting in a moment 06:24 VanessaE k 06:25 OldCoder Restarted 06:26 rubberduck Hi VanessaE 06:26 VanessaE hi 06:27 OldCoder Item "moreblocks:stair_stonebrick" not defined 06:27 OldCoder Well, that's one 06:27 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, problem is fixed. 06:27 OldCoder I have a mismatched moreblocks 06:27 VanessaE OldCoder: yeah, it's moreblocks:stair_stone_brick now I think. 06:27 VanessaE but be careful, moreblocks is touchy 06:27 OldCoder Yes 06:27 OldCoder Reviewing 06:27 VanessaE anyway, I need to head to bed now 06:27 rubberduck i have a special area protection request for you, on the survival server, you can read more about in the irc logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-10-02#i_3959311 06:28 VanessaE rubberduck: ok, one moment please. 06:29 OldCoder VanessaE, night 06:30 VanessaE rubberduck: you got coords for it? 06:30 OldCoder Hm 06:30 OldCoder Where do aliases go 06:30 OldCoder Ah 06:30 VanessaE OldCoder: anywhere, as long as the nodes they point to have already been defined. the end of the mod that defines the replacement nodes is as good a place as any 06:31 OldCoder moreblocks:stair_stonebrick 06:31 OldCoder alias that to stair_stone_brick 06:31 OldCoder If I find the latter 06:31 OldCoder Hm 06:31 VanessaE rubberduck: this thing that looks like a huge checkerboard? 06:31 OldCoder That isn't there either 06:32 VanessaE rubberduck: talk over here, on this channel please. 06:32 rubberduck that checkerboard helps me to know where i have to place blocks in different colors 06:33 VanessaE gotchya 06:33 VanessaE so you just need the dimensions of the platform + vertical to +99? 06:33 rubberduck that is ok 06:33 VanessaE ok 06:34 rubberduck name should be: oversized minetest-logo 06:35 VanessaE done 06:35 VanessaE and with that, I'm off :-) 06:35 rubberduck thank you 06:35 VanessaE yw 06:35 VanessaE night 06:35 OldCoder o/ 06:48 OldCoder kaeza, SilverCrab is up at minetest.org port 30019. We need help diagnosing bad mods and missing blocks. 06:50 Zeno` Hello Mr Kaeza 06:51 kaeza o/ 06:51 Zeno` What does o/ mean? You're doing one-armed weightlifting? 06:51 OldCoder Wave 06:51 Zeno` :D 06:52 Zeno` my jokes always fall very flat 06:52 kaeza if you look it the other way, you're bowling 06:53 sfan5 meow 06:53 sfan5 hi everyone 06:53 Zeno` like o\ ? 06:53 OldCoder sfan5, moin 06:53 OldCoder sfan5, SilverCrab is up at minetest.org port 30019. We need help diagnosing bad mods and missing blocks. 06:53 Zeno` what's the missing block in my inventory? 06:53 sfan5 I can help in a min 06:53 OldCoder No rush 06:53 * kaeza meows at sfan5 06:54 Zeno` might be able to write a script to identify unknown nodes 06:55 OldCoder I think that some are corrupted and stored as unknown 06:55 OldCoder Need people who remember RedCrab to comment 06:55 Zeno` hmm 06:55 OldCoder on what was there 06:55 Quall anyone know why krocks server is not on? 06:56 OldCoder What is the screenshot key? 06:56 sfan5 F12 06:56 sfan5 (iirc) 06:56 OldCoder ty 06:58 Zeno` I guess a start would be seeing what the unknown item I am holding is 06:59 oOChainLynxOo Hi OldCoder 07:00 oOChainLynxOo It's JayKeePoo 07:00 OldCoder Oh, Hi! 07:00 oOChainLynxOo I certainly remember Redcrab 07:00 Zeno` JayKeePoo :p~~~~~~~~ 07:00 OldCoder Well, visit and help to identify things 07:00 * Zeno` pours a bucket of ice on his head 07:00 OldCoder Feel free to email oldcoder@yahoo.com 07:01 oOChainLynxOo Lol Zeno` 07:01 CWz can't join worng password 07:01 oOChainLynxOo Join what? 07:01 oOChainLynxOo Can you post something 07:01 OldCoder CWz, Silvercrab? 07:02 CWz yeah 07:02 OldCoder It's a new world. Reset your password. 07:02 oOChainLynxOo CWz and I remember things 07:02 OldCoder Hm. Hang on, why couldn't he join? 07:02 OldCoder Any password should have worked 07:02 OldCoder Reviewing auth 07:02 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder: address and port please? 07:03 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, minetest.org 30019 as stated in the tweet 07:03 OldCoder Wait 07:03 OldCoder CWz, I mean 07:03 oOChainLynxOo I'm loading just fine 07:03 CWz am in 07:03 OldCoder kk 07:03 oOChainLynxOo I'm coming in 07:04 OldCoder kk 07:04 oOChainLynxOo Also, nice name, Silvercrab 07:04 OldCoder Yes, shouldn't take original as it technically still exists 07:09 oOChainLynxOo True 07:09 oOChainLynxOo Also sounds shiny 07:09 OldCoder 00:01:56: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ...hare/minetest/games/silvercrab_game/mods/timber/init.lua:34: attempt to index local 'digger' (a nil value) 07:09 oOChainLynxOo Hmm 07:09 OldCoder Wrong timber? oOChainLynxOo 07:09 OldCoder Reviewing 07:09 oOChainLynxOo Strange 07:09 oOChainLynxOo Never saw an error like that 07:09 OldCoder A lot of mismatches 07:09 OldCoder Wait briefly 07:10 oOChainLynxOo Ok 07:10 OldCoder Yes, I've got a timber that is too new I think 07:10 OldCoder Fixing 07:10 OldCoder Should I add mesecons? 07:10 oOChainLynxOo Hmm 07:11 oOChainLynxOo Might be a little op on this server 07:11 OldCoder op? 07:11 oOChainLynxOo over-powering 07:11 OldCoder No 07:11 OldCoder CWz thought 07:11 OldCoder blocks might be mese? 07:11 oOChainLynxOo I thought mesecons was a pretty big mod 07:11 OldCoder It is 07:11 oOChainLynxOo Ah 07:11 OldCoder Question is, what are the unknown blocks 07:11 OldCoder beneath spawn? 07:11 OldCoder Restarting with fixed timber 07:11 CWz mese 07:11 oOChainLynxOo I'll take a look and guess 07:11 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, ^ 07:12 oOChainLynxOo Yes, install the classic mese mod 07:12 OldCoder The two of you decide whether or not they are mese plese 07:12 OldCoder Link? 07:12 OldCoder I'll do it now 07:12 oOChainLynxOo The only problem is that it also has the 0.3.1 mese 07:12 oOChainLynxOo Which I don't know if that'll be a problem or not 07:12 OldCoder Hm? Explain "has" 07:12 OldCoder Are there blocks from both? 07:13 oOChainLynxOo It has the old grey mese block too 07:13 oOChainLynxOo https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8315 07:13 OldCoder So, install two mesemods? 07:13 oOChainLynxOo If you would like 07:13 OldCoder It is your decision 07:13 OldCoder Indicate links you'd like me to test 07:14 oOChainLynxOo This mod comes with two mese blocks which is a problem, but there is no other mod that has the old mese 07:14 OldCoder What do you suppose he did? 07:14 oOChainLynxOo Hmm 07:15 OldCoder Relax and consider a minute 07:15 OldCoder If mese will fix the unknown blocks that is fine; but what was in his world? 07:16 oOChainLynxOo Just the classic yellow mese, not the grey mese 07:16 OldCoder So what do we need? 07:16 oOChainLynxOo Aha! Found just the yellow mese 07:16 oOChainLynxOo https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4191 07:16 OldCoder Ah 07:16 OldCoder Link? 07:16 OldCoder For download, I mean 07:16 * OldCoder is at CLI 07:16 oOChainLynxOo This is odd 07:17 oOChainLynxOo Hang on 07:17 oOChainLynxOo I'll send you a link to my dropbox that has the mod in it 07:17 OldCoder Sure 07:17 oOChainLynxOo This is a little convoluted 07:17 OldCoder PM if convenient 07:18 OldCoder Do you think capture failed for mese blocks? 07:18 oOChainLynxOo Uh oh 07:18 oOChainLynxOo The service shut down 07:18 oOChainLynxOo I can't download it 07:18 OldCoder Heh 07:18 OldCoder Maybe I have it; looking 07:18 oOChainLynxOo How convenient, lol 07:18 OldCoder Wait briefly 07:18 oOChainLynxOo Not a problem 07:19 CWz what is missing? 07:19 OldCoder mese 07:19 OldCoder When was the switch? 07:19 oOChainLynxOo I think around 0.4.5 or .4.6 07:20 OldCoder I have January 2013 07:20 oOChainLynxOo I think that's it 07:20 OldCoder Do I install the entire modpack? 07:21 OldCoder Or just mesecons? 07:21 OldCoder 0.41 DEV 07:21 oOChainLynxOo I don't know 07:21 oOChainLynxOo I've never worked with mesecons before 07:21 OldCoder I'll start with just the base 1st 07:21 OldCoder Moment 07:22 OldCoder Any other changes before this restart? 07:22 OldCoder Restarting 07:23 OldCoder VanessaE can tell you about cyan 07:23 OldCoder She thinks it's working but there is a bug with existing blocks 07:23 OldCoder Can be used now 07:23 OldCoder Restarted 07:23 oOChainLynxOo Ok 07:24 OldCoder VanessaE thinks flying is slow 07:24 OldCoder Wondered if physics are different here 07:25 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, tell me coords of an interesting place to screenshot 07:26 oOChainLynxOo Sure 07:26 oOChainLynxOo No, physics were not different here 07:26 OldCoder I mean now 07:26 OldCoder She thinks something might be out of whack 07:26 oOChainLynxOo Yes there is something strange here 07:26 oOChainLynxOo Physicswise 07:26 oOChainLynxOo Run isn't as fast 07:26 OldCoder Interesting 07:27 OldCoder Not a setting? 07:27 oOChainLynxOo There is a setting somewhere in I think minetest.conf 07:27 oOChainLynxOo That's my best bet 07:27 OldCoder No idea which though? 07:27 OldCoder Well, indicate a favorite place 07:28 OldCoder What is this silo with monsters in it? 07:28 oOChainLynxOo Moment 07:30 OldCoder I'll be asleep shortly oOChainLynxOo but as you see I honor deals :P meow 07:35 oOChainLynxOo :) 07:37 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, you wish me to install mithril ore? 07:38 oOChainLynxOo Install moreores 07:38 oOChainLynxOo Hang on 07:38 OldCoder I have moreores, possibly the wrong version 07:38 oOChainLynxOo https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreores/archive/master.zip 07:39 CWz i made a new oldmese mod 07:39 OldCoder That is newest, it may not work, but let me see 07:39 OldCoder CWz, go on 07:39 CWz it fateful to the original mese from redcrab 07:39 oOChainLynxOo Faithful* 07:39 OldCoder Link? 07:39 CWz and it crashed 07:40 CWz something related to generate_ore 07:41 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, CWz restarting with new moreores 07:41 OldCoder Please review 07:41 OldCoder As this may break things 07:42 oOChainLynxOo Also, install the maptools mod for admins and moderators. It has a pickaxe specially used by admins and can only be accessed by them 07:42 OldCoder Cylus, hilus 07:42 Cylus Hey OldCoder! How goes it? 07:42 OldCoder Good. Had to put aside the DB editor temporarily but revived RedCrab 07:43 Cylus Sweet. That was a pretty cool world. 07:43 OldCoder Needs work but is back 07:43 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, CWz check please 07:43 oOChainLynxOo Checking now 07:46 CWz can figure out what is causing the crash in my oldmese mod 07:46 OldCoder kk 07:47 CWz something related to generate_ore that is all i know 07:50 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix misc. style issues 1337d3c3d http://git.io/TJ2l5g (152014-10-03T03:49:06-04:00) 07:50 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean up nodedef.cpp 1301ce57a http://git.io/06iK4w (152014-10-03T03:21:08-04:00) 07:54 CWz got my oldmese mod to work 07:54 OldCoder Link? 07:59 oOChainLynxOo Missing ores at the crafting school 08:01 oOChainLynxOo Fixed missing ores at crafting school 08:02 oOChainLynxOo Also we have mitrhil ore 08:03 oOChainLynxOo CWz, OldCoder, found a new unknown node 08:03 oOChainLynxOo Or rather, an item 08:04 CWz OldCoder: is going to sleep 08:04 oOChainLynxOo Ok, we are missing silicon lump 08:04 CWz what mod was that 08:05 oOChainLynxOo Whatever mod is the one with the speakers and tvs 08:05 CWz i think it homedecor or 3dfurniture 08:39 oOChainLynxOo Going to bed, good night all 08:52 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Techie’s Day! :-D 08:59 rubberduck hi meldrian 08:59 meldrian hi rubberduck :) 08:59 meldrian hi everyone else 09:15 jp_ test 09:16 Amaz test_received 09:16 jp_ weechat on raspi \o/ 09:16 Amaz Nice! 09:18 jp_ but there is no mt 0410 in the repos :( 09:18 jp_ only 0.3.x 09:20 Amaz Make it you self? 09:21 jp_ a pain 09:22 jp_ MC-Pi edition 09:22 jp_ oops, wrong window 09:23 Amaz XD 09:32 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Tweak some textures, new chest texture 1356cc419 http://git.io/rkBJBg (152014-10-03T11:29:17+02:00) 09:32 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add improved grass textures by @Philipbenr (slightly modified), fixes #323 136532978 http://git.io/igPaeA (152014-10-03T11:29:10+02:00) 09:54 Nekrodes jp_: you are a traitor xD 10:03 PenguinDad Trick or Trait :D 10:08 jp_ call me 'judas' 10:14 Nekrodes jp_: :p 10:20 rubberduck i have a weird issue with colored steel-framed obsidian glass, when i look at it from various directions on different places, the glass gets opaque, see how it looks: http://platen-software.de/sebastian/minetest/blue_glass_bug.jpg 10:23 rubberduck i'll restart the computer because of this issue 10:24 PenguinDad ^ RealBadAngel 10:29 rubberduck the issue still appears 10:36 Nerotic Morning. 10:52 PenguinDad plantlike is broken :( https://cdn.mediacru.sh/D5gHzLQeeYML.png 11:29 PenguinDad hmmmm bwoke my precious drawtypes! :( 11:33 Amaz :( 11:35 Zeno` PenguinDad, what's broken there? 11:36 Zeno` maybe plant rotation, but I'm not sure 11:37 PenguinDad Zeno`: the planes (or however you call them) are only textured on one side 11:38 Zeno` weird. If you place those plant types manually are they rendered correctly? 11:41 PenguinDad Zeno`: they aren't rendered correctly regardless of how you place them 11:46 Zeno` oh gosh 12:01 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, one sided? pretty weird 12:01 RealBadAngel does that apply to all the plants? 12:02 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: yes 12:03 RealBadAngel any more details? 12:04 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: This commit breaks it https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/01ce57ade534f83d80bbb1f0c48630891b338237 12:08 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, i see 12:08 RealBadAngel i will try to find the reason 12:11 RealBadAngel need to clone fresh and build, give me a few minutes 12:11 CWz i think the plantlike drawtype might have been broken in latest git 13:15 Megaf_ !seen aldobr 13:15 MinetestBot Megaf_: aldobr was last seen at 2014-09-25 03:23:59 UTC on #minetest 13:16 cities mmmmmmmmmm 13:21 shadowzone !seen selah 13:21 MinetestBot shadowzone: selah was last seen at 2014-09-25 23:12:33 UTC on #minetest 13:35 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix broken plantlike drawtype. 130920f55 http://git.io/V68FpA (152014-10-03T15:33:32+02:00) 14:05 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl -> 03minetest/minetest: Bugfix: dont highlight (0,0,0) when theres no node pointed. 13b9cb196 http://git.io/QMC9Qg (152014-10-03T16:03:14+02:00) 14:45 kilbith BlockMen : https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/324#issuecomment-57805103 14:51 BlockMen kilbith, better than before. But current steel and especially gold looks IMO better 14:51 BlockMen yours is still not really shiny... 14:51 kilbith current steel is too white-ish 14:52 kilbith and dirty for all of them 14:52 kilbith current gold is too 'flashy' 14:53 BlockMen kilbith, there is no accounting for taste ;) 14:54 kilbith well, it seems that most of players there likes my textures 14:54 kilbith better than the current 14:56 BlockMen idc what most think. my opinion is my opinion. but thats all. since nore seems to agree on it you got 50% to merge it already ;) 15:00 kilbith for textures, if 90% of non-devs people are agree for merge, and 20% of devs doesn't... what happens ? 15:01 DusXMT 20% of devs doesn't = 80% of devs do -> If democracy works inside the project, it gets passed 15:02 kilbith there is no democracy in this case 15:02 DusXMT Then it depends no who is in that 20% 15:02 DusXMT s/no/on/ 15:02 BlockMen its kinda simple. when 2 devs (of mt_game) agree it gets merged 15:02 BlockMen there are 3 devs 15:03 BlockMen im out on agreeing, nore did 15:03 BlockMen so sfan5 is left 15:03 BlockMen if he agrees its in 15:03 kilbith but does just 4 devs can represents the tastes of people ? 15:03 DusXMT kilbith: It's their game 15:03 kilbith that's the point 15:05 BlockMen the point is not that its "our" game. the point is that there needs to be way to make sure not everything goes in 15:05 BlockMen how bad mass opinions can be is readable in history 15:06 mistnim hitler? 15:06 BlockMen that does not mean that mass desicions are bad, but it means they are also not always right 15:07 DusXMT Yeah. For example, if Poland didn't become a temporary dictature in WW1, it would have most probably failed tragically in the war, as the parlament full of people arguing with each other just didn't cut it. (Of course, I'm not a supporter of dictatures, I'm just stating a history fact) 15:08 RealBadAngel masses can follow one artist or just piss on him 15:08 RealBadAngel simple as that 15:08 kilbith that's understandable for the code, but a dev do not necessarily a objective/good eye on aesthetic thing like texture 15:08 kilbith necessarily have* 15:08 RealBadAngel and there will never be a texture that will fit all the tastes 15:08 RealBadAngel one prefer van gogh others picasso :P 15:08 * PenguinDad looks at Jordach 15:09 Jordach how did you know i was here 15:09 DusXMT I find: as long as it's customizable, I don't care about the default 15:09 RealBadAngel DusXMT, thats why texture packs are here 15:09 DusXMT Yup 15:10 Jordach and i don't want RBA's bullshit photorealism ideas whatsoever 15:10 RealBadAngel yup 15:10 DusXMT RBA? 15:10 RealBadAngel and i have the right to piss at that opinion too ;) 15:10 RealBadAngel thats the freedom of choice 15:11 RealBadAngel we dont force anything here 15:11 DusXMT And if someone doesn't like it, they can always fork it and change what they dislike (freedom 2) 15:12 kilbith some forks will never be under the "spotlights" 15:12 kilbith most of the forks, even 15:13 DusXMT well, that's how the free market works. You either get followers, or don't 15:13 blaise or you get lit on fire by an angry mob with torches and pitch forks 15:14 Amaz ↑ 15:14 DusXMT heh, that would be cool 15:14 kilbith surrounded by a plethora of choices, you can't easily make a good choice, that's the problem 15:15 * DusXMT wonders if there's a `make torches fire-based meelee weapons' 15:15 DusXMT mod 15:15 BlockMen kilbith, why are you complaining at all? there is no decision yet and you got 50% already... 15:15 kilbith where did you see I'm complaining about my pending PR ? ;) 15:16 BlockMen well, then why are you complaining at all? 15:16 kilbith just emitted some questioning 15:17 BlockMen ... 15:18 Sokomine OldCoder, VanessaE: the problem of the cyan wool you where talking about is kind of vanessas fault :) her server had more than 4k diffrent blocks, and thus mt was changed to be able to handle more than that amount of blocks. only redcrabs server never got that update, and thus an inconsistency between server and (newer) client existed while capturing. in case of redcrabs server, cyan wool is the node that got hit by this problem 15:19 Sokomine OldCoder, VanessaE: as far as mods for redcrabs server go, i've created a collection some time ago. in the meantime, inocudom has located my old posting and even quoted it. you can get a set of working mods (i think they ought to still work!) from that thread 15:21 Sokomine OldCoder, VanessaE: the posting regarding the mod collection for redcrabs server is even linked directly as one of the games listed in the posting behind the link in my signature. you can find it here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7537 15:22 Sokomine OldCoder, VanessaE: as far as hosting redcrabs server goes, my opinion is still ambivalent. i want the server to live on. what i don't want is multiple official versions of the server out there running at the same time 15:24 blaise Sokomine: what if they all ran on the same db server? 15:24 blaise aka redis.. 15:24 blaise is that even possible? 15:24 blaise can you run multiple servers on the same redis server database ? 15:25 Sokomine blaise: no idea if that's technically possible or if it would be a good idea 15:25 blaise then we could link the different servers chat channels 15:25 selah Can someone kick shadowzone please? 15:25 blaise but I don't think the minetest supports the linking or leafing or anything like that 15:25 Sokomine ah. linking chat channels is a diffrent issue. that has been done already by using irc mods 15:25 PenguinDad blaise: afaik it is possible but could cause corruption 15:26 blaise ah 15:26 blaise PenguinDad: that is very unfortunit.. 15:26 Sokomine blaise: it wouldn't save the problem i talked about. it's not too high load or something like that which would be the issue here 15:27 blaise you just don't want posers prentending to be redcrab? 15:27 blaise did redcrab die or something? 15:27 Sokomine blaise: our main problem is that the owner of a server which used to run for a very long time and has excellent buildings sort of shows up only once in a year anymore. and we got a problem that crashed the server - so there's no one there to solve the problem and restart 15:27 blaise massive cardiac infarktion? 15:28 Sokomine not exactly posers. i don't want there to be diverging versions of the map...so that half the players build on map a, while the other one builds on map b. that's why i was so very reluctant to give oldcoder my copy of the map 15:28 Sokomine we don't know. by all we know he might be fine. he was away for a year once before 15:29 blaise yar 15:29 Sokomine if you can find a working way of contacting him, do so! 15:29 blaise lmao 15:29 blaise bust in the front door of his house wearing a sam suit 15:30 Sokomine it hasn't dropped that far in all countries yet, though there may be doubt 15:31 blaise what hasn't dropped? 15:32 * blaise suspects Sokomine was in the wrong channel on that last message 15:33 blaise http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/pictured-cow-rescued-coastguard-after-4298170 15:42 blaise pureluaentity is making my log files WAY to big 15:42 blaise WAY, WAY, WAY too big! 15:43 blaise [pureluaentity] Saving DB... 15:43 blaise [pureluaentity] Saved 0 entities. 15:43 iqualfragile blaise: whats way to big? 15:43 PenguinDad 05T04h07a08t 03i09s 10W11A02Y, 12W06A13Y, 05W04A07Y 08t03o09o 10b11i02g12! 15:43 iqualfragile shadowzone: look, i bought a new van, hope you like it more: http://i.imgur.com/mhlSvug.jpg 15:43 DusXMT How many kilolines per second? 15:45 iqualfragile DusXMT: kilolines? 15:45 blaise pureluaentity 15:45 blaise it's been a week, and my log file has increased 3 gigs 15:45 blaise this is a problem for me 15:46 DusXMT Wow 15:46 DusXMT Can't you set up a script to strip it every now and then? 15:46 * blaise facepalms 15:47 DusXMT Why? You could set it up so that cron runs it every day and removes useless information from it 15:47 blaise that's not very efficient. 15:47 microcarrot http://harpbeta.tk/post/458 15:48 microcarrot made my day 20x better ^ 15:49 blaise ._. 15:49 microcarrot lel 15:50 DusXMT blaise: How is it not then? What's the problem with that approach? (well, the loss of potentially important information is one thing I can think of, but not anything else really) 15:50 blaise approach? 15:50 DusXMT Of controling the log size 15:51 blaise why should I have to write a parsing/cleanup script for a log file becuase someone has uselessly verbose crap in their mod? 15:51 blaise who's mod is that anyway? 15:51 blaise is that sapiers stuff that's doing that? 15:52 DusXMT Why? Perhaps because you don't want it to grow by 3 gigs every week? 15:53 DusXMT Okay, this is circular logic, I'll stop here 15:54 * blaise fills a massive salad mixing bowl with gallons and gallons of oatmeal 15:55 * blaise curls up to his laptop with the massive bowl of oatmeal and digs in 15:55 iqualfragile blaise: i personally just move my old log file out of the way, zip it and rename it to the current date on server startup 15:55 blaise iqualfragile: have you ever heard of logrotate ? 15:56 iqualfragile blaise: yes, i have 15:56 blaise k 15:56 DusXMT better than zip is lmza, a common implementation is xz 15:56 microcarrot blaise: I envy your salad bowl, your oatmeal, and your laptop 15:57 shadowzone XD' 15:57 shadowzone Nice van. 15:58 shadowzone Still not hopping in and partying in a van. 16:02 blaise shadowzone: what van? 16:02 shadowzone http://i.imgur.com/mhlSvug.jpg 16:04 blaise shadowzone: that's kinda creepy 16:05 DusXMT They've got all sorts of cool stuff, like "candies" that make you feel strange, knives, and other things as well 16:05 shadowzone I know. 16:10 MaraJade I need some help. I created a game last night and played for a long time, then closed the game. This morning when I opened it, the world from last night was gone. Did I need to do something special when I closed it? Or can I get it back? 16:12 iqualfragile shadowzone: havn't you read the inscription of the van? 16:13 shadowzone Yep. 16:13 iqualfragile so? 16:14 iqualfragile DusXMT: ah, my fellow van-fan 16:15 iqualfragile MaraJade: which os are you using? 16:15 blaise BeeOS ? 16:15 blaise OS/2 ? 16:18 MaraJade iqualfragile: windows 16:18 PenguinDad OSOS 16:20 iqualfragile MaraJade: sorry, i have no idea where minetest saves it data on windows 16:26 FreeFull MaraJade: It shouldn't be gone 16:26 FreeFull Saving is automatic 16:29 MaraJade FreeFull: Well, it isn't in the menu when I open the game 16:30 FreeFull MaraJade: Yeah, it's meant to happen by itself without you needing to do a thing 16:30 FreeFull MaraJade: Are you on Windows or Linux? 16:30 MaraJade FreeFull: Windows 16:30 * DusXMT smells corruption 16:30 FreeFull I'm not sure where Minetest stores its data under Windows 16:30 DusXMT filesystem corruption, or save corruption 16:31 Jordach if you placed it where you can't write to: you just lost your world 16:31 DusXMT I'm pretty sure it's in install_dir/saves, but I could be wrong (or is the `saves' folder called differently?) 16:32 MaraJade Jordach: What do you mean? 16:32 Jordach MaraJade, eg, C:\Program Files\ or a intranet owned shared folder 16:33 MaraJade Jordach: Would putting it in C:\Games\ cause problems? 16:33 Jordach no 16:34 Jordach but your own documents / desktop is a better place for it 16:36 Jordach (it also won't work if your companies machines don't allow writing to desktop or other directories that are local) 16:37 erlehmann can someone help me with my glider mod? 16:38 erlehmann i just don't know what would constitute a proper gliding model 16:38 Salbei hi 16:38 Salbei someone use the irc mod? 16:38 erlehmann like, if you are slower, you should plummet faster! 16:38 erlehmann Salbei there is an irc mod? oh wow! 16:39 erlehmann show and tell 16:39 microcarrot yep, thereis 16:39 Salbei https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3905 16:39 microcarrot it requires extra compiling tho 16:40 Salbei but maybe it not maintained 16:40 shadowzone I use the IRC mod. 16:41 shadowzone https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc <--- 16:42 Salbei i have some errors when i launch the server maybe u will can help me 16:42 shadowzone That doesn't require any compiling. 16:42 Salbei http://paste.debian.net/124351/ 16:42 shadowzone Are you on linux? 16:42 Salbei yes 16:42 shadowzone sudo apt-get install luajit 16:43 Salbei luajit not found 16:43 shadowzone Hmm. 16:43 Salbei t installed lua-socket before 16:43 Salbei *I 16:44 Salbei i will try with ur link 16:44 shadowzone Okay. 16:46 OldCoder Sokomine, (1) I started with your RedCrab "_game" (2) The original RedCrab will ultimately disappear. Presently, people don't know, from day to day, whether their work will still exist the next. This isn't acceptable. (3) Comment on the unknown blocks that are below spawn, please. Should we delete them? 16:48 Salbei shadowzone: same errrors with the github sources 16:48 shadowzone Hmm. 16:49 shadowzone Did you do a "submodule init update --init" 16:50 microcarrot who would like to write minetest articles on my site? 16:51 Salbei shadowzone: now yes! sry i had forget 16:52 erlehmann microcarrot what is your site? 16:52 shadowzone It worked? 16:52 microcarrot http://harpbeta.tk erlehmann 16:52 erlehmann microcarrot why should anyone write an article for your site instead of writing it on one's own site? 16:53 Salbei new errors now i paste it 16:53 microcarrot i don't know, I guess if they didn't have a site or they were bored? 16:53 Salbei shadowzone: http://paste.debian.net/124354/ 16:53 microcarrot ^^ erlehmann 16:53 shadowzone I'm trying to remember how I fixed that. 16:53 kaeza Salbei, try this: open irc/init.lua, and after the package.path = ... lines, add this: 16:53 Salbei :) 16:54 erlehmann microcarrot i laughed http://harpbeta.tk/post/458 16:54 kaeza package.cpath = package.cpath .. ";/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/lua/5.1/?.so" 16:54 kaeza Salbei, ^ 16:54 microcarrot erlehmann: thanks :D 16:55 kaeza replace x86_64 by i386 if running 32 bits 16:56 microcarrot lolololol 16:56 microcarrot it looks like I broke the site a little bit 16:56 microcarrot XD 16:56 * sfan5 meows at erlehmann 16:56 Salbei yes its sounds good now kaeza 16:56 Salbei thanks u kaeza and shadowzone 16:57 shadowzone Your welcome. 16:57 kaeza sure :) 16:57 shadowzone Even thought kaeza probably helped more than me. 16:57 shadowzone I'm still sorta a noob. 16:58 Salbei u help me for submodule init ;) 16:59 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:59 shadowzone Hi rubenwardy. 16:59 * kaeza puts a kitten on rubenwardy's head 16:59 * blaise curls up in front of the fire place 17:00 shadowzone o.O 17:00 shadowzone What is it with y'all and cats? 17:00 OldCoder cats are good 17:00 OldCoder cats in the barn 17:00 OldCoder cats on the stairs 17:00 OldCoder cats on the rooftops 17:00 OldCoder cats in the airs 17:00 OldCoder 17:00 shadowzone o.O 17:01 sfan5 >cats in the airs 17:01 sfan5 flying cats? 17:01 OldCoder Yep 17:01 * OldCoder looks for his "Cats Everywhere" poem 17:01 kaeza Salbei, I'm seeing your server bot on ##mt-irc-mod 17:02 OldCoder cats dancing with mice 17:02 OldCoder cats sliding on ice 17:02 OldCoder cats on skateboards riding 17:02 OldCoder cats under beds hiding 17:02 OldCoder 17:02 sfan5 cats dancing with mese 17:02 sfan5 cats sliding on ice 17:02 microcarrot lol 17:02 sfan5 cats in carts riding 17:02 OldCoder i don't care about you 17:02 sfan5 cats under beds hiding 17:02 OldCoder but if you leave me, i'll mew 17:02 OldCoder 17:02 microcarrot lel 17:02 OldCoder cats in the barn 17:02 OldCoder cats batting yarn 17:03 OldCoder cats on rooftops purr 17:03 OldCoder cats in the snow brrr 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 OldCoder CAT STOLE MY FOOD 17:03 OldCoder CAT IS IN BAD MOOD 17:03 OldCoder MOAR FOOD CAT SAYS 17:03 * sfan5 meows 17:03 OldCoder GIVE ME CAT PEZ 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 OldCoder serve me, meow 17:03 OldCoder it's what you are *for* 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 OldCoder i sleep all the time 17:03 sfan5 you should write poems 17:03 sfan5 oh wait 17:03 OldCoder pet me, stop silly rhyme 17:03 OldCoder 17:03 sfan5 you already are 17:03 microcarrot lol 17:03 OldCoder cats on the moon 17:04 OldCoder cats in the sky 17:04 OldCoder cats flying here and there 17:04 OldCoder cats by and by 17:04 OldCoder 17:04 OldCoder meow says the cats 17:04 OldCoder as they chase the rats 17:04 OldCoder 17:04 OldCoder cats on your head 17:04 kilbith you've finally deleted NYC, OldCoder :) 17:04 OldCoder cats at you stare 17:04 OldCoder cats on the bed 17:04 OldCoder cats everywhere! 17:04 OldCoder 17:04 OldCoder kilbith, Hm? 17:04 OldCoder No, I run NYC 17:04 OldCoder Might not be up right now 17:05 kilbith not on 30019 so 17:05 OldCoder Server move finished, porting all the worlds to MT 0.4.10 17:05 OldCoder kilbith, I'd forgotten which servers were on which ports 17:05 Salbei yes thank kaeza :) 17:05 OldCoder NYC will get another port 17:05 kilbith oh ok 17:05 Salbei i find the chan just now 17:07 sfan5 o/ asie 17:07 microcarrot hi asie! 17:08 PenguinDad Hi asie 17:08 asie Hi asie 17:08 rubberduck hi asie 17:08 microcarrot it appears asie is popular 17:08 microcarrot XD 17:08 asie :) 17:08 shadowzone Hi asie. 17:09 rubberduck and asie says hi to him/herself 17:09 microcarrot asie is definately popular in my eyes 17:09 microcarrot for saving ASCIImator 17:10 sfan5 asie: http://youtu.be/5MJQhe6XdWg 17:10 * rubberduck grinds a nyan cat into dust 17:10 sfan5 asie: (don't ask why) 17:11 microcarrot it appears that gender is not a big problem on IRC 17:11 sfan5 !tell Calinou http://www.twitch.tv/darkgarx/c/5225379 17:11 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around 17:12 asie sfan5: i know vry well why 17:12 asie i uploaded that video 17:13 microcarrot and because http://asie.pl 17:13 microcarrot hehe 17:13 sfan5 asie: I meant that you shouldn't ask why I gave you that link 17:13 asie also 17:14 asie i will be working on a new asie.p 17:14 asie l 17:14 shadowzone That video was annoying. No offense. 17:14 microcarrot haha 17:14 OldCoder VanessaE, Sokomine didn't comment on the unknown blocks. RedCrab 30402 is up; compare there if you wish. 17:14 asie shadowzone: I had nothing better to put on the page 17:14 shadowzone o.O 17:14 MaraJade Question: Would closing to os without ever having closed to menu in a new world cause it to not save correctly? 17:15 microcarrot maybe I should do something like that when I switch sites 17:15 proller Э 17:15 PenguinDad microcarrot: do it with ponies then ;) 17:15 proller miss! 17:16 microcarrot I probably will XD 17:16 sfan5 MaraJade: it _should_ not cause that 17:17 iqualfragile shadowzone: u like disco? 17:17 shadowzone Yeah. 17:18 iqualfragile DusXMT: new plan 17:18 microcarrot lol 17:18 microcarrot PenguinDad: https://derpiboo.ru/404 17:20 cities so irccloud wants 17:20 cities 5 bucks a month 17:20 sfan5 cities: do you even znc somewhere 17:20 microcarrot what is a IRC cloud? 17:20 PenguinDad 5 bucks == 15 steel ingots :P 17:21 cities sfan5: what 17:21 cities I was using ZNC 17:21 cities til my friend cut me off 17:22 cities their shell 17:22 sfan5 i c 17:22 sfan5 then just use a free shell 17:22 cities they won't open ports 17:22 cities can't use 22 17:22 cities or I would 17:27 sfan5 won't they allow unprivileged ports? 17:28 cities explain 17:28 cities not sure what that is 17:28 sfan5 ports > 1024 17:29 cities hmm I don't know its possible. 17:29 sfan5 what do you need port 22 for? 17:29 cities I don't need port 22. Its the default ssh port...which work blocks 17:30 sfan5 and wheres the problem? 17:30 sfan5 you can't use port 22 for znc anyway 17:30 jp_ linux-users : is there a way to revert a $ mv ? 17:30 cities I use screen and irssi at work sfan5 17:30 cities the znc comes in with my phone 17:30 cities used* 17:31 cities ssh-ing out at work is the problem 17:31 sfan5 then irssi-out at work 17:31 cities maybe you can help me. I don't want to take up the channel with this 17:32 cities can I msg you? 17:32 sfan5 sure 17:34 MinetestBot Calinou: 10-03 17:11 UTC http://www.twitch.tv/darkgarx/c/5225379 17:35 Calinou no thanks 17:35 rubenwardy lol 17:36 rubenwardy "We're playing the Carbone mod" 17:36 sfan5 Calinou: ?? 17:36 rubenwardy "minetest.com" 17:36 sfan5 rubenwardy: don't hate on people for not understanding everything 17:36 kaeza sfan5, the libcurl-7.18.0-win32-msvc.zip package is 404. I found one here: https://github.com/diffbot/diffbot-cpp-client/tree/master/deps/libcurl-7.18.0-win32-msvc 17:37 kaeza could you please set up a zip of that and update buildbot? 17:37 sfan5 kaeza: I still have the original 17:37 sfan5 curl could use an update anyway 17:37 sfan5 I'll see if a new one is available 17:37 rubenwardy Not hating. Just showing that it isn't made obvious. 17:37 Calinou rubenwardy, do my NBE build work? 17:38 rubenwardy Dissing my orange tree texture :O 17:40 rubenwardy http://minetest.com/ is confusing to new people. It should link to minetest.net or redirect. 17:40 * microcarrot sighs 17:40 microcarrot another movie? 17:40 Calinou or we just buy minetest.com when it expires 17:40 VanessaE OldCoder: she did comment, scroll back 17:41 VanessaE OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-10-03#i_3961393 17:41 rubenwardy They mention the food mod! Someone actually uses it! 17:42 OldCoder VanessaE, I saw that... 17:42 OldCoder Not about the cyan 17:42 OldCoder About the blocks under spawn; aren't they different? 17:42 OldCoder There are the unknown blocks you can't identify 17:42 kaeza sfan5, can you give me a link to your saved package? 17:42 OldCoder Where are those? 17:43 sfan5 rubenwardy: at least minetest.com links to minetest.net and doesn't just offer some version of 2 years ago 17:43 sfan5 kaeza: one sec 17:43 OldCoder john_minetest, you 17:43 OldCoder john_minetest, yo * 17:44 microcarrot OldCoder, we are about ready for that moontest server 17:44 OldCoder kk 17:45 microcarrot all we need is a good lunarium block texture 17:47 sfan5 kaeza: http://meow.minetest.net/tmp/libcurl-7.18.0-win32-msvc.zip 17:48 kaeza sfan5, got it, thanks :) 17:48 kaeza now... let's see if this thing builds... 17:48 sfan5 it should 17:49 kaeza not without mingw installed :| 17:49 kaeza hurr 17:50 sfan5 kaeza: how do you expect it to build somewith without a compiler? :P 17:50 microcarrot sfan5, what version of iOS does the version of ffmpeg on your cydia thing support? 17:50 kaeza magic 17:50 kaeza ? 17:51 * kaeza installs mingw 17:51 * kaeza hugs exio4_ 17:51 sfan5 microcarrot: any device with armv7 17:51 * microcarrot uninstalls mingw 17:51 sfan5 microcarrot: but it's currently broken 17:51 sfan5 microcarrot: I can try building a new one 17:51 * exio4 hugs kaeza 17:51 microcarrot 2 bad things 17:51 * sfan5 meows at exio4 17:52 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-< 17:52 microcarrot i've got an iphone 3g so armv7 is a no, and it sucks its broken 17:52 sfan5 3g is armv6 right 17:52 microcarrot yep 17:52 * rubberduck quacks at john_minetest 17:52 sfan5 IIRC there was an ffmpeg somewhere in a different repo 17:53 * john_minetest gives rubberduck a bit of old bread. 17:53 * PenguinDad looks at his Samsung Galaxy S3 17:53 microcarrot I will look around 17:53 * rubberduck likes to get feeded my john_minetest 17:54 Sokomine OldCoder: you ought to take redcrab_game and expand on it only where needed. the wool mod for example was difficult to find, and other mods may not work in newer versions either. updating moreblocks and/or homedecor might be a bit critcial. as for (2), even your servers will eventually disappear. all only a matter of time, sadly. our goal ought to be to prolong the server's life - whereever it's hosted. when there's no chance of re 17:54 microcarrot oh 17:54 OldCoder Reviewing 17:54 microcarrot i'm dumb 17:54 microcarrot Cycorder comes with ffmpeg 17:54 Sokomine OldCoder: as to the unknown blocks: are you sure they're not more cyan wool? i'll check...port? 17:54 microcarrot which means I already have it 17:55 OldCoder Sokomine, (1) we are aware of the update problems (2) not following, RedCrab is erratic or dead (3) check with Vanessa re wool. server is minetest.org 30019 17:55 OldCoder Sokomine, hang on, let me grant you all there 17:55 Calinou RedCrab still exists? :/ 17:55 OldCoder Calinou, ? 17:55 Calinou the 2 year old server 17:55 OldCoder Calinou, RedCrab is down for a week. I am now running SilverCrab. 17:55 Sokomine OldCoder: in order to run on a server, it's vital to keep the protections as well. that ought to be possible - at least to a degree. shadowninja said his areas mod is compatible. at least an old version of the old node_ownership savedata ought to exist 17:56 OldCoder Sokomine, JayKeePoo plans to restore the protections 17:56 Sokomine Calinou: it existed for a very long while. ran over a year without any sight of redcrab 17:56 Sokomine Calinou: lately i did an error - ran rollback_check after finding a griefing :-(( server didn't come back. not even the next day as it used to 17:57 OldCoder Sokomine, kindly join so that I can op you 17:57 Calinou most servers have way overdone protections 17:57 Sokomine OldCoder: what base does he have in mind? 17:57 Sokomine sec 17:57 OldCoder Sokomine, he will read the creators apparently 17:57 OldCoder He found something by you last night for example 17:57 * microcarrot notes that cats have iphones 17:57 OldCoder cats knawing rodent bones 17:57 OldCoder cats calling friends on iPhones 17:58 OldCoder gnawing * 17:58 microcarrot lol 17:58 microcarrot OldCoder: you are great :D 17:58 OldCoder great is my humble fate 17:59 OldCoder Sokomine, comments on physics are requested. People say that run and fly are too slow here. 17:59 Sokomine OldCoder: we have that list. please also note that another known moderator (apart from cactuz_pl) is Erthome 17:59 Sokomine i'll see 17:59 OldCoder Sokomine, he is welcome to join 17:59 OldCoder Sokomine, I figure that we'll do a little more research 18:00 OldCoder Then revert and ask people to worldedit the unknown blocks 18:00 OldCoder Sokomine, see the unknown blocks under spawn 18:01 Sokomine OldCoder: guess it's the aforementioned cyan wool 18:01 OldCoder So, need to worldedit the blocks 18:01 Sokomine hmm. worldedit is not a good solution to that problem 18:01 OldCoder What about physics? 18:01 OldCoder Should I simply mass delete them? 18:02 Sokomine don't know about jumping. it's hard to tell about physics from a short test. perhaps something was changed there... 18:02 OldCoder Is there a conf setting? 18:03 Sokomine are you using a diffrent game base or config file? 18:03 Sokomine (regarding the fast aspect) 18:03 OldCoder I don't have the original conf 18:03 Sokomine that one from landrush might be a bad choice in that regard 18:03 OldCoder So I'm using the same as most of my worlds 18:03 OldCoder Well, suggest changes 18:04 Sokomine don't use landrush's player physics as a sample for any other world. default player physics ought to be fine for redcrabs server ought to be fine i think 18:04 OldCoder What settings? 18:04 OldCoder What settings do I need to remove? 18:04 OldCoder I will post the conf. Wait. 18:04 Sokomine hmm. did i forget to add the cobble texture? or os a texture pack of mine (not that i'm willingly using any?) overriding? 18:05 OldCoder http://minetest.org/silverconf.txt 18:05 OldCoder ^ the conf 18:06 microcarrot can anyone make me a texture for a block? 18:08 rubberduck i made textures for different ores, default and mods, license included, platen-software.de/sebastian/minetest/mt_new_textures_1.tar.gz 18:08 rubberduck platen-software.de/sebastian/minetest/mt_new_textures_1.tar.gz 18:08 rubberduck oops 18:08 rubberduck http://platen-software.de/sebastian/minetest/mt_new_textures_1.tar.gz 18:13 microcarrot rubberduck: anything purple in there? 18:14 rubberduck why purple? 18:14 rubberduck are mostly ores 18:14 microcarrot rubberduck: because https://github.com/realtinymonster/moontest/blob/master/mods/moontest/textures/moontest_mineral_lunarium.png 18:14 rubberduck better ore textures, default they have all the same shape 18:15 rubberduck i can make one 18:15 microcarrot I need a solid block texture 18:20 Megaf Quake III on a raspberry pi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IHndVS_8Q 18:20 Megaf !title 18:20 MinetestBot Megaf: Quake 3 - Raspberry Pi (with sound) - YouTube 18:20 microcarrot seen it 18:20 kilbith \o/ 18:21 rubberduck i work on a block texture, uploading soon here 18:21 microcarrot rubberduck: #moontest 18:23 rubenwardy !tell iqualfragile got a traceback of the error on mmdb: https://bitbucket.org/iqualfragile/mmdb/issue/25/some-broken-things-with-log-in-system 18:23 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when iqualfragile is around 18:28 cities texture packs are disappointing 18:28 microcarrot yep 18:28 sfan5 cities: then make better ones 18:28 cities Its like theres so many mods the packs can't account for them all 18:28 cities sfan5: No 18:29 kaeza the same happens in MC 18:29 cities yeah it does if you play modded MC 18:29 kaeza texture packs are not future proof 18:29 microcarrot exactly 18:29 cities if you don't play modded MC you've got a good chance of finding some that will at least be good til the next update 18:30 kaeza same with MT 18:30 cities but since you pretty much depend on mods for MT 18:30 cities it would be kind of hard 18:30 cities to support them all 18:30 microcarrot that is gitpack's goal 18:30 kaeza if you play an unmodded server, it's highly likely the texture pack supports everythng 18:30 kaeza +i 18:30 cities is gitpack yours microcarrot 18:31 microcarrot yep 18:31 cities cool 18:31 cities kaeza: what do you get with an unmodded server though 18:31 kaeza cities, the most complete packs so far are probably HDX and Misa(?) 18:31 microcarrot http://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minetest 18:31 cities ohh its you :) 18:31 cities I didn't know 18:31 cities Reality Monster 18:31 zlsa real tiny monster 18:32 cities I know I'm just messing around 18:32 kaeza fake giant pony? 18:32 cities microcarrot: do you have a screenshot with it running 18:32 kaeza <_< 18:33 microcarrot yeah 18:33 microcarrot somewhere on the forums 18:33 microcarrot XD 18:33 cities k 18:34 cities ill check it out sometime 18:34 cities sfan5: I'm not complaining about the artists 18:34 cities they are great 18:36 oOChainLynxOo Blaxar 18:36 oOChainLynxOo Wadya doin here 18:36 * sfan5 meows at oOChainLynxOo 18:36 * oOChainLynxOo mewos at sfan5 18:36 * sfan5 cats 18:36 oOChainLynxOo Cats rule 18:36 * Jordach has a copy of Super Smash Bros on 3DS 18:37 oOChainLynxOo O_O 18:37 oOChainLynxOo Is it good 18:37 Jordach yesh 18:37 cities nothing makes me happier than bailbondsman soundboards on youtube 18:37 oOChainLynxOo :D 18:38 shadowzone Blaxar isn't here. 18:38 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, you hanging around here cause the other #minetest doesn't talk enough about cats? 18:38 cities wheres the other minetest 18:38 cities not the dev one 18:39 shadowzone isis.inchra.net/#minetest 18:39 oOChainLynxOo No, because OldCoder is working on a Redcrab revival 18:39 shadowzone Oh. 18:39 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, Hi 18:39 oOChainLynxOo Hi OldCoder 18:39 shadowzone So you want to be here to see that? 18:39 * shadowzone runs into a wall 18:39 OldCoder shadowzone, actually 18:39 OldCoder shadowzone, he may help to run the new crabzone 18:39 shadowzone Leik seriously why am I trying to learn how to use html? 18:40 shadowzone OldCoder, cool. 18:40 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, good luck 18:40 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, Sokomine is considering the unknown blocks 18:40 oOChainLynxOo Thank you shadowzone 18:40 oOChainLynxOo Oh yes, Sokomine will be a good help 18:40 OldCoder We'll hold off on finalizing the world until we have a decision on those 18:40 cities shadowzone: minetest. ru? 18:40 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, here is the current conf 18:40 shadowzone No. 18:40 OldCoder http://minetest.org/shadowconf.txt 18:40 OldCoder Suggest physics changes if necessary 18:40 shadowzone shadowconf.txt? 18:41 shadowzone I already have a server. XD 18:41 OldCoder Oops 18:41 OldCoder http://minetest.org/silverconf.txt 18:41 OldCoder ^ correction 18:41 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, ^ 18:41 * shadowzone tries to read that 18:41 cities shadowzone: is isis.inchra.net an irc server? 18:41 shadowzone Yes it is. 18:41 cities Ive never seen one start with isis 18:42 shadowzone Neither have I but everything needs something that is different. 18:42 Calinou microcarrot, for textures give http://neotextureedit.sourceforge.net/ a try :P 18:42 shadowzone Are we making Minetest look real life? 18:42 cities hmm my text turned grey for some reason 18:42 cities there we go 18:43 shadowzone then /join #minetest 18:43 PenguinDad cities: Inchra uses ancient egyptian gods as server naming scheme 18:43 cities ohh nice 18:43 shadowzone o.O 18:43 shadowzone Huh? 18:43 cities I'm a huge fan of ancient egyption gods.. 18:44 * oOChainLynxOo is reviewing the conf 18:44 shadowzone I used to be. 18:44 shadowzone Then I became a nerd and now it's reviving ancient egyptian computers. 18:45 cities thats ambtious and great of you 18:45 shadowzone It's fun. 18:45 shadowzone But have you gotten into isis.inchra.net? 18:45 cities oh I wasn't trying 18:45 shadowzone Oh. 18:46 cities ircloud limits me to two connections 18:46 shadowzone Oh. 18:46 shadowzone You should get hexchat. 18:46 cities why Im using it I don't know 18:46 shadowzone It works much better. 18:46 microcarrot Daniel Ingram - Let The Rainbow Remind You only came out like a few days ago, yet there are already remixes 18:46 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder try bumping movement_speed_fast from 7 to 4, let's try that 18:46 microcarrot such fast 18:47 OldCoder Very well 18:47 shadowzone http://hexchat.github.io/ 18:47 OldCoder movement_acceleration_air = 2 18:47 cities I can't use that unless theres a server that lets you use SSL and they have that set up 18:47 cities (hexchat) 18:47 cities looks nice though 18:47 cities its that a portable app 18:47 cities I downloaded pchat which was some fork of xchat 18:47 cities but portable 18:47 OldCoder What about that one? 18:47 OldCoder HexChat has a portable install mode 18:47 OldCoder It is also fully free FOSS 18:47 cities nice 18:48 shadowzone hexchat works without ssl. 18:48 OldCoder Recommended 18:48 OldCoder With and without 18:48 OldCoder It is the new XChat 18:48 cities so whats this PChat that I downloaded 18:48 cities some other fork 18:48 OldCoder Not familiar with it 18:48 OldCoder HexChat is the one to use 18:48 shadowzone probably crap. 18:48 shadowzone if you can only hook up to 2 networks. 18:48 cities probably. 18:48 * OldCoder can't say 18:48 cities shadowzone: its because im not paying 18:49 shadowzone hexchat is free. 18:49 cities this is temporary til I get shell access again 18:49 cities and Ill be back to my beloved irssi 18:49 shadowzone if you know how to compile. 18:49 shadowzone XD 18:49 cities oh irssi 18:49 cities I miss you irssi 18:49 OldCoder I sigh for Irssi 18:49 oOChainLynxOo We'll test movement_air after testing movement_speed_fast 18:50 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, change is made, will restart when Sokomine is done 18:50 cities I would love hexchat but 18:50 oOChainLynxOo Ok 18:50 cities I need something 24/7 18:50 OldCoder znc? 18:50 cities OldCoder: nothing to run it off of righ tnow 18:50 cities im looking for a free shell account after work 18:50 OldCoder Very well 18:51 cities im boring everyone to death with this but I had a friend who gave me an account 18:51 cities we traded expletives 18:51 cities and now I'm not longer on it 18:51 * sfan5 meows at cities 18:51 cities Trading expletives is not good to do to the person who gives you access 18:52 microcarrot cities: lessonm learned, am I right? 18:52 cities Nah I'd do it again in a heartbeat 18:52 cities haha 18:52 shadowzone XD 18:53 PenguinDad <3 https://soundcloud.com/robgassermusic/sets/get-mad-cloudhead-records 18:53 Niebieski Hey guys, I'm using linux mint and I installed the game but I can't create any world. 18:53 cities this friend found out I was leaving their little channel.He was like why am I still even giving you access if you're just using me 18:53 kaeza Niebieski, what is the error? 18:53 cities I said don't know, turn it off. Don't give two shits 18:54 OldCoder CWz, Moin 18:54 shadowzone Hi CWz. 18:54 Niebieski kaeza: I don't get any error but when I click on create nothing happens. 18:54 hny lol 18:54 hny funny stuff 18:55 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, try speed now 18:55 CWz it's nighttime here soon sleep will be upon me 18:55 hny I have the shortest nick -.- And you have the shortest dick 18:55 hny XD 18:56 OldCoder Shall we hear from you, Catesby, ere we sleep? 18:56 oOChainLynxOo Hmm 18:56 oOChainLynxOo That made it default speed 18:57 oOChainLynxOo Try bumping it to 10 18:57 kaeza Niebieski, do you have any sub-games installed? (in /usr/share/minetest/games or ~/.minetest/games) 18:57 kaeza (or maybe /usr/share/games/minetest/games) 18:57 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder ^ 18:57 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, just did 18:57 Calinou Niebieski, do you have permissions to access the directory where worlds are made? 18:57 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, you can use set -n to change it yourself 18:58 Calinou if your build is run-in-place 18:58 Calinou (if you installed through a package, your build isn't run-in-place) 18:58 shadowzone How are you guys playing together? 18:59 oOChainLynxOo shadowzone: minetest.org 30019 19:00 Calinou oOChainLynxOo, there's a mod for setting speed while playing, with a privilege 19:00 Calinou has /speed, /jump and /gravity commands 19:02 Niebieski kaeza: I have minetest-mapper in usr/games. 19:02 OldCoder So snack 19:02 CWz Calinou: is there a link 19:02 * CookieEaterDoge barks 19:02 OldCoder Very tasty 19:02 oOChainLynxOo Calinou, OldCoder already told me about the set -n 19:04 kaeza Niebieski, do this: go to ~/.minetest, delete `debug.txt`, re-run the game, and as soon as you click the "Create world" button, check `debug.txt` again and see if there's any error 19:04 Niebieski kaeza: Yes there are sub-games in ~/minetest/games 19:05 cities some develop a legitimate iOS version for minetest, why should android users get all the fun 19:05 MinetestBot iqualfragile: 10-03 18:23 UTC got a traceback of the error on mmdb: https://bitbucket.org/iqualfragile/mmdb/issue/25/some-broken-things-with-log-in-system 19:06 kaeza cities, gib irr 4 ios pl0x 19:06 rubenwardy ignore that 19:06 rubenwardy Trace back for another problem 19:06 cities im sorry what 19:06 rubenwardy Talking to iqualfragile 19:06 cities I was talking to kaeza 19:06 kaeza does irrlicht support iOS? 19:06 rubenwardy ah, ok 19:06 realtinymonster yes 19:06 PenguinDad kaeza: yes it does 19:06 realtinymonster i think 19:06 iqualfragile rubenwardy: i got a traceback for both errors 19:07 iqualfragile from x yz 19:07 iqualfragile but i currently can't work on it, still on hollydays 19:07 rubenwardy Can you pass them to me? 19:07 realtinymonster iqualfragile: why you put a space? 19:07 kaeza oh, then submit a patch to build it 19:07 rubenwardy Stop pinging 19:07 rubenwardy I guess 19:07 iqualfragile yep 19:07 iqualfragile im talking about not to, so why would i ping 19:07 kaeza also, don't you need a jailbroken phone or a dev license or something on iOS? 19:08 cities why can't it go through apple app store 19:09 cities there are a couple of apps there 19:09 cities that will connect to minetest servers 19:09 cities they are....not good 19:10 Niebieski kaeza: I can't find 'debug.txt'. 19:10 kaeza huh 19:10 Sokomine OldCoder: http://pastebin.com/gCsB1ei9 is the abm that will convert the unkown nodes to cyan wool. the moreblocks...hm...perhaps we can get calinou to figure out the correct version of moreblocks :-) 19:10 iqualfragile sfan5: don't you have a windows installation? 19:11 sfan5 iqualfragile: which one? windows 7 or windows 10? 19:11 rubenwardy Windows 10? D: 19:11 sfan5 yes 19:11 iqualfragile sfan5: any, just where does minetest save its debug.txt 19:11 kaeza Niebieski, it may be in ~/, or in the cwd where you started (if started from the command line) 19:11 sfan5 iqualfragile: bin/ 19:12 sfan5 rubenwardy: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/p4J2aF1i-ybl.png 19:12 iqualfragile Niebieski: ^ 19:12 rubenwardy What happened to Windows 9? 19:12 sfan5 there is none 19:12 kaeza Linux ate it 19:13 Nerotic II can answer that 19:13 Nerotic *I 19:13 Nerotic Windows 7 8 9 19:13 Nerotic Read it out loud, it explains why it isnt Windows 9 19:13 Niebieski kaeza: My system partition doesn't have free space, maybe this is the problem ? 19:13 Nerotic lol 19:13 kaeza ·_· 19:13 Niebieski kaeza: I keep delete stuff but it keep saying that there is no free space. 19:14 rubenwardy The start menu for Windows 10 - the 'live tiles' look like Adverts 19:14 rubenwardy as in clutter 19:14 Nerotic uh 19:14 Nerotic yea 19:14 PenguinDad Nerotic: I don't get it 19:14 Nerotic Windows 7 ate 9, 8 is the ate 19:14 Nerotic Like the "Why is 8 afraid of 7? cuz 7 8 9" 19:14 Niebieski Guys Google why there are no Windows 9... 19:15 PenguinDad 284me 19:15 Nerotic lol guys 19:15 Nerotic its actually because of windows 95 and 98 19:15 Nerotic too similar 19:15 rubenwardy Because it was too big a leap. 19:15 Nerotic lolno 19:15 kaeza because MS counts in base 9? <_< 19:15 cities because its weird 19:16 rubenwardy Let's not bully MS about skipping a version, Minetest did it too. See 0.4.2 (or don't) 19:16 PenguinDad Base 9 :D 19:16 oOChainLynxOo LOL 19:16 cities I said something about it in here and someone said the name doesn't matter 19:16 cities maybe that was some other channel 19:18 Sokomine perhaps there was a secret 0.4.1 around somewhere :-) 19:18 cities someone told me microsoft indonesia promised free windows 9 19:18 Nerotic lol 19:18 rubenwardy It really annoys me when people say "Intrest[/ed/ing]" 19:18 oOChainLynxOo Oh, hi Sokomine 19:18 Sokomine hi chainlynx 19:18 * Jordach is interested why rubenwardy is like that >:D 19:19 MinetestBot hisforever: 10-03 01:51 UTC If you just want to build, mine and farm, you'd be better off finding a game without mobs. 19:19 Niebieski I'm BRB. 19:19 FreeFull rubenwardy: Slackware skipped versions too 19:19 rubenwardy ^ that's how it should be (Jordach) 19:19 rubenwardy not intrested 19:19 rubenwardy :( 19:19 rubenwardy Oh well 19:19 hisforever Hi everyone its great to be here 19:19 Sokomine Calinou: it seems the version i did choose for redcrab_game is not perfect. it misses some nodes. do you have any idea what might be done? afaik newer versions changed too much (especially some textures) 19:19 FreeFull It went straight from 10.0 to 13.1 19:19 PenguinDad rubenwardy: but what if my int rested? 19:20 cities hi hisforever ! 19:20 cities it is great to be here 19:20 rubenwardy hmmm. What would that mean? An integer data type is not used for a while? 19:20 kaeza your a funny guy 19:20 * kaeza hides 19:21 PenguinDad rubenwardy: It's just a bad bad pun 19:21 hisforever Hi cities how are you? 19:22 cities wondeful 19:22 cities how are you 19:22 rubenwardy kaeza, that's even worse :( 19:22 hisforever grrr can't seem to change font color 19:22 hisforever I'm great ty 19:22 rubenwardy hisforever, ctrl+k? 19:22 rubenwardy 4Hello! 19:23 rubenwardy Oh, you probably mean ingame :S 19:23 oOChainLynxOo Nice red text 19:23 PenguinDad 06I 13h05e04a07r08d 03y09o10u 11l02i12k06e 13f05o04n07t 08c03o09l10o11r02s 19:23 hisforever  19:23 oOChainLynxOo Lol 19:23 rubenwardy ctrl+k, and number (4 is red), and then type the text :P 19:23 hisforever yes lol 19:23 MinetestBot 4Eve7n I8 do3 ra12inb6ows13! <4​3 19:23 Nerotic lol 19:23 hisforever ty thats great 19:23 rubenwardy 3What? 19:24 Nerotic wtf is this sht xD 19:24 hisforever so I have to hit ctrl k everytine 19:24 oOChainLynxOo 4 Durka 19:24 oOChainLynxOo LO 19:24 oOChainLynxOo LOL* 19:24 rubenwardy Yeah, hisforever. I checked your client supported t. 19:25 realtinymonster 06Purple, scrubs 19:25 niebieski kaeza: I just restarted and it worked fine, sorry for bothering you. :) 19:25 oOChainLynxOo 2Sacre bleu 19:25 rubenwardy Bye all! 19:25 hisforever ty Rubenwardy :) 19:25 rubenwardy (gtg) 19:25 oOChainLynxOo Bye rubenwardy 19:25 Nerotic Anyone here actually get Windows 10 preview? 19:25 Nerotic I did. 19:25 oOChainLynxOo Microchip did 19:25 kaeza niebieski, no problem. glad you made it work :) 19:26 sfan5 Nerotic: me 19:26 Nerotic sfan5, nice isnt it? 19:26 sfan5 yes 19:26 sfan5 UI looks nicer than in 8 19:26 Nerotic its sweet. 19:26 Nerotic of course 19:26 Nerotic windows 7 + 8 = windows 10 19:27 realtinymonster WAIT 19:27 hisforever I'm using dreambuliders game but can't get Animals to work. I have then actavites too? 19:27 realtinymonster windows 10 preview is out? 19:27 Nerotic yea 19:27 * realtinymonster dislikes living under a rock 19:27 sfan5 !g windows 10 tp download 19:27 MinetestBot sfan5: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso 19:27 sfan5 ^ realtinymonster 19:28 niebieski So guys I want Minetest to be as similar as possible to Minecraft, which mods I have to install ? 19:28 sfan5 niebieski: tried Carbone 19:28 sfan5 ? 19:28 niebieski No, I didn't try any mod yet, I'm new. 19:28 hisforever I will not go back to windows for anybodt don't like the resource hog lol 19:29 sfan5 who talked about going back to windows? 19:29 cities Ballmer 19:30 * PenguinDad wonders how big the windows 10 iso is 19:30 zat is it possible to change tiles of a node without changing the node itself? 19:30 sfan5 no 19:31 sfan5 PenguinDad: 3,9G WindowsTechnicalPreview-x64-EN-US.iso 19:31 zat no to me or someone else? 19:31 Nerotic to me 19:31 Nerotic jk 19:31 PenguinDad impossible to download for me \o/ 19:31 zat no to me or someone else to who answered or someone else? 19:31 sfan5 zat: "no" to you 19:32 zat no to me or someone else to who answered or someone else to sfan5 or someone else? 19:32 realtinymonster AGH 19:32 realtinymonster fuck m$ 19:32 realtinymonster they all "Sorry… 19:32 realtinymonster Your Microsoft account says you’re under 18 years old. You have to be an adult to join the Windows Insider Program." 19:32 hisforever I'll be setting in here and building a house 19:33 * realtinymonster realizes that its time to make a new m$ account 19:33 niebieski So with this preview version I would be using Windows legally ? 19:34 realtinymonster yep 19:34 sfan5 realtinymonster: you can download it w/o creating an account 19:34 cities im getting windows 9 from indonesia 19:34 realtinymonster really? 19:34 sfan5 niebieski: yes, version expires april 15th though 19:34 sfan5 just click on a download link 19:34 realtinymonster https://insider.windows.com/ 19:35 realtinymonster oh 19:35 realtinymonster lol 19:38 realtinymonster hmm 19:38 realtinymonster I'd like to have something like this 19:39 realtinymonster and the system requirements are pretty low 19:39 realtinymonster Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 19:39 realtinymonster RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit) 19:39 realtinymonster Free hard disk space: 16 GB 19:39 realtinymonster Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver 19:39 realtinymonster A Microsoft account and Internet access 19:40 realtinymonster well 19:40 realtinymonster i'm gonna go VM this son of a gun 19:40 * realtinymonster lauches qemu 19:42 OldCoder Sokomine, shall I run that now? 19:43 OldCoder http://pastebin.com/gCsB1ei9 19:43 OldCoder People, what shall I do with this? 19:43 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, VanessaE ? 19:43 OldCoder Where does that go? 19:43 oOChainLynxOo I really don't know. I never got this technical 19:43 OldCoder Hm. sfan5 ? kaeza ? 19:44 Nerotic bbl 19:44 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, I'm going to try it shortly 19:45 oOChainLynxOo Ok 19:45 OldCoder We're about to possibly start the actual world 19:46 SylvieLorxu >A Microsoft account 19:46 SylvieLorxu >Internet access 19:46 SylvieLorxu Those are ridiculous system requirements, especially the first one 19:47 Miner_48er OldCoder create a folder in mods and add that code to an init.lua file in it then enable it 19:47 OldCoder Just did 19:47 OldCoder One other thing 19:47 OldCoder moreblocks:stair_stonebrick 19:47 OldCoder Will somebody help to find that? 19:47 OldCoder BTW enable it? Just adding it should work, right? 19:49 Miner_48er depends on the version and which mods dir your using 19:49 OldCoder Enable how? 19:49 Nerotic Anyone know of a really awesome fork besides WOTT? 19:49 PenguinDad WOOT? 19:49 PenguinDad *WOTT 19:50 Nerotic World of the Test. 19:51 PenguinDad I only know lord of the test 19:51 Nerotic Freeminer, Voxel, Carbone, those are the ones ive tried 19:51 Nerotic and wott 19:52 Miner_48er OldCoder ~/minetest/worlds/world's name/world.mt 19:52 OldCoder Hm? It's enabled by defualt 19:52 OldCoder * default 19:52 OldCoder Preparing to restart 19:52 OldCoder One other thing 19:52 OldCoder moreblocks:stair_stonebrick 19:52 OldCoder Will somebody help to find that? 19:53 oOChainLynxOo Very well 19:53 oOChainLynxOo Nerotic: For a good fork, try BFD by Jordach 19:54 Nerotic Okay thanks 19:54 CWz BFD is not fork 19:54 CWz it a minetest subgame 19:54 oOChainLynxOo subgame? 19:54 PenguinDad BFD kills my eyes 19:54 oOChainLynxOo That's right 19:54 shadowzone Let me know when it's back up. 19:54 CWz freeminer is fork 19:54 oOChainLynxOo Freeminer's a good fork 19:54 exio4 it ain't that good 19:55 oOChainLynxOo Well it's good, but not amazing 19:56 Sokomine OldCoder: you can run the abm. it ought to work and convert those unkown nodes that are wool into it 19:56 oOChainLynxOo What about Voxelands 19:57 Nerotic as i said "voxel" 19:57 oOChainLynxOo Sorry, didn't see that 19:57 Nerotic ok 19:57 PenguinDad Voxelands runs slower than Minetest for me 19:58 Nerotic not for me 19:58 Nerotic much faster for m3 19:59 oOChainLynxOo http://minetest.weebly.com/minetest-forks.html 19:59 kaeza voxelands has its pros and cons. for example, it may be faster than minetest, but it lacks moddability 19:59 OldCoder One other thing 19:59 oOChainLynxOo Modability is crucial in Minetest 19:59 OldCoder moreblocks:stair_stonebrick 19:59 OldCoder Will somebody help to find that? 19:59 oOChainLynxOo Very well, OldCoder 20:00 OldCoder Well, I suppose we'll need to fix that later. SilverCrab is now live. oOChainLynxOo VanessaE others feel free to worldedit repairs. 20:01 Miner_48er OldCoder code and texture http://cornernote.net/minetest/guide/modulator/item.php?name=moreblocks:stair_stonebrick 20:01 oOChainLynxOo Ah yes 20:09 CWz Voxellands is minetest-classic oOChainLynxOo 20:09 oOChainLynxOo Yup 20:25 Calinou Sokomine, I don't have More Blocks versions earlier than July 2013 20:25 Calinou Freeminer's a good fork 20:25 Calinou slow, unstable, glitchy 20:25 Calinou :/ 20:25 Calinou but has colour codes, unlike Minetest… 20:25 oOChainLynxOo True 20:26 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder: I need you for a moment over at Silvercrab 20:26 Calinou because the pull request that is made for color codes here will look like a pizza slice left in fridge for 2 weeks 20:26 oOChainLynxOo Lol 20:26 Calinou “rebase needed”, which means it's useless 20:26 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1636#issuecomment-57781853 20:26 OldCoder oOChainLynxOo, kk I am here and there 20:29 oOChainLynxOo Sokomine, we need help on protecting 20:36 proller Calinou, under linux now stable 20:36 Calinou but lower FPS, more stuttering… 20:37 proller fmp maybe lower, but it more stable 20:37 proller try rotate in mt and fm 20:38 proller also fm playable with 100000 loaded blocks in viewrange 20:38 proller and fixing in progress 20:40 PenguinDad proller: fps is less stable in freeminer 20:42 Amaz ↑ 20:43 Amaz But having said that freeminer has improved a lot in the last 6 months. 20:43 Amaz I can now play it, for a start :P 20:44 proller please report os, version when it "slow" 20:45 Amaz Derivative of Ubuntu 14:04, fairly recent dev version. 20:46 Amaz And I can't compile the next branch :( 20:46 proller now merging in progress 20:46 PenguinDad Debian Jessie latest dev version 20:47 proller maybe more_threads=0 will bit help 20:49 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/JDu-i4V8_EFQ.png 20:49 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9AGcsjoLU_tH.png 20:50 proller wow! new feature ;) 20:51 PenguinDad proller: it is much faster with more_threads = false 20:53 proller unsuccessful experiment 20:54 proller also can try compile with cmake . -DDISABLE_THREADS=1 21:07 Jordach i heard proller was trolling again 21:07 Jordach why the fuck has he not been banned yet 21:09 Nerotic ? 21:09 Nerotic isnt proller like a core dev? 21:10 Nerotic ah 21:10 Jordach fail* 21:11 Jordach not really a fork more of a how many patches can we make to stop a leaky bucket being leaky by design 21:15 iqualfragile hi shadowzone 21:16 shadowzone Hi iqualfragile. 21:16 iqualfragile have you been to a disco or why were you offline? 21:16 shadowzone I had to go do chores. 21:16 shadowzone I'm only 12. 21:17 iqualfragile so? 21:17 shadowzone My mom made me do my chors/ 21:17 shadowzone *chores 21:18 proller Jordach, you need to eat anti-butthurt drug, or your chair will be fired 21:18 Jordach proller, try memory foam 21:18 iqualfragile proller: is freeminer even still alive? 21:18 proller iqualfragile, yes. 21:18 iqualfragile shadowzone: you should run away from home 21:18 shadowzone Nope. 21:18 iqualfragile proller: what are the main differences to minetest these days? iirc one of the main split reasons was the network protocoll? 21:19 iqualfragile shadowzone: why not? 21:19 shadowzone I don't want to run away. 21:19 shadowzone No wi-fi 21:20 proller iqualfragile, no, network was changed in next branch after fork 21:20 proller and still not merged to master 21:20 iqualfragile shadowzone: my van has wifi 21:20 proller it will be merged after next release 21:20 iqualfragile sure it will 21:20 iqualfragile so what is the diff? 21:21 cities shadowzone: you're going to be very successful 21:21 proller http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/full-list-of-changes-from-minetest.110/ 21:21 shadowzone huh? 21:21 shadowzone At What 21:22 cities If you're 12 then you're really smart 21:22 shadowzone I am only 12. 21:23 cities I can't decide if that's a meme or you're really 12 21:23 kaeza second 21:23 iqualfragile cities: no, its really 12 21:23 cities Thats amazing 21:23 iqualfragile proller: how did you implement wieldlight? 21:23 kaeza also: "webscale JSON over SSL compute shader locator database" sounds like a nice project 21:24 iqualfragile kaeza: wtf does it do? 21:24 kaeza iqualfragile, http://bullshit.srsfckn.biz/ 21:24 proller iqualfragile, it was not my feature 21:24 iqualfragile proller: how did you guys implement wieldlight? 21:24 iqualfragile extensible extended pipelining frontend provider 21:24 iqualfragile that even makes sense 21:25 proller btw now mese tools have small light, very useful ;) 21:26 iqualfragile problem with wieldlight is that you always forget to place torches 21:26 proller https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/816 21:27 proller john_minetest, 525 files changed, 97540 insertions(+), 58515 deletions(-) 21:28 proller its not only minimap. 21:28 cities I tried freeminer and only one public server came up 21:29 proller cities, wich version? 21:29 iqualfragile john_minetest: now it gives a disadvantage to everybody 21:29 iqualfragile also realistically the amount of people playing without shaders is below 2 percent 21:29 cities I dunno I just downloaded it maybe sometime last week 21:29 proller first main problem was too laggy server, and it near solved 21:29 cities I love sandbox games 21:30 proller cities, download windows version? 21:30 proller win toooooo old 21:30 cities Yes windows 21:30 iqualfragile john_minetest: why do we advertise that minetest runs on _that_ old hardware 21:31 proller old hardware == new mobiles 21:31 iqualfragile and how old has your hardware to be that no shaders are supported 21:31 iqualfragile i think its a fight for nobody 21:31 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1711 21:31 Calinou very cool 21:31 PenguinDad iqualfragile: ask Krock :P 21:31 proller also minetest is not fast 21:31 cities So the windows one doesn't get updated 21:32 PenguinDad ^ Minetest as a Movie :D 21:32 proller cities, now need to find/fix some bugs and build/test on windows for next release 21:32 cities Ok I'll try it out 21:33 cities Is there some kind of rivalry between the two? 21:33 proller fm always have all latest mt changes ;) 21:36 Calinou http://wiki.geany.org/themes/start 21:36 Calinou this is actually a DokuWiki and not MediaWiki :o 21:36 Calinou it took me several minutes to realize 21:36 Calinou john_minetest, try watching a 48 fps movie and see 21:36 Calinou you're unlikely to like it 21:37 PenguinDad Calinou: just look at the damn favicon.ico ;) 21:37 Calinou talking about favicons: http://realfavicongenerator.net/ 21:38 Jordach Calinou, i wanna see Avatar 2 at 120fps 21:38 iqualfragile elfenlied: blut und brüste 21:39 iqualfragile how the fuck is something like that successfull 21:52 Jordach john_minetest, they mean 24fps 720[ 21:52 Jordach 720p even 21:57 PenguinDad "interactive open-source non-blocking SVG framework" I want this so much xD 21:58 Jordach iqualfragile, http://bullshit.srsfckn.biz/ 21:59 Jordach industry-leading generic NoSQL application generator 22:00 Jordach touché 22:00 Nerotic Is there a way to make your game require it to be creative only, and no option for survival? 22:00 Nerotic (working on a fork) 22:00 Jordach Nerotic, not really, except removing the creative mode check from creative 22:00 Jordach (the mod) 22:00 Nerotic So if i do this, itll have to be creative? 22:02 Jordach the creative mod only runs if creative mode's checkbox is checked from the main menu 22:02 * Jordach thinks Failminer needs this: generic framework optimizer 22:05 Nerotic so, basically, if i remove the check, itll think that its selected automatically, and run it? 22:06 Jordach yes 22:06 Jordach !pil Nerotic 22:06 MinetestBot Nerotic, Someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/ 22:06 Nerotic I have a good understanding of lua, dont worry. 22:06 Nerotic I have to check the dev wiki sometimes though. 22:07 kaeza Nerotic, you could do if not minetest.setting_get_bool("creative_mode") then error("GTFO") end 22:07 kaeza s/get_bool/getbool/ 22:07 Nerotic kaeza, in what file...? 22:07 Nerotic wait 22:07 kaeza in an individual mod 22:07 Nerotic ik 22:07 Nerotic just had a brain fart fck 22:11 Nerotic damnit that was too easy, how did i not think of that 22:18 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 22:22 Nerotic Guys. 22:22 Nerotic At the top of creative/init.lua i did: 22:23 Nerotic if not minetest.setting_get_bool("creative_mode") then error("Creative only") end 22:23 Nerotic And i get an error, whats wrong with it? 22:23 kaeza s/get_bool/getbool/ 22:23 Nerotic wat 22:24 Nerotic so, minetest.setting.get_bool_getbool? 22:24 kaeza ... 22:24 Nerotic wait no 22:24 Nerotic wtf 22:24 kaeza ftw! 22:25 PenguinDad FTL! 22:25 kaeza it's setting_getbool, not setting_get_bool 22:25 Nerotic OHHH wtf is wrong with me today 22:25 Nerotic i have never needed help from irc before, but today im just all fucked up. i gotta like take a break for today. im really like, not all there 22:35 * Nerotic goes to sleep to rest his tired self 22:45 oOChainLynxOo Sokomine I need help on protecting, I'm on silvercrab right now and need to protect some stuff 22:47 Sokomine oOChainLynxOo: i'm afraid you'll have to wait a moment. i just compiled the newest version of mt, made an error while integrating the map-saving function, and thus need to wait until the client has built again 22:47 VanessaE oOChainLynxOo: when I signed onto the initial test, I had a protection block in my hand 22:47 Sokomine even then, to my knowledge the known areas are not yet installed. i'm not sure how safe it will be 22:47 VanessaE I placed it and I was granted control over the area I was standing near, but I've no idea just how much area that was or what the boundaries were 22:47 VanessaE (I didn't even realize it was a protection block) 22:48 Sokomine VanessaE: there are diffrent types of them. did the block disappear after you placed it? 22:48 VanessaE fortunately, I was at the front door of my house, so at least I know I own it. 22:48 VanessaE Sokomine: yes, it did. it was a dark blue block with light blue edging. 22:48 Sokomine VanessaE: landrush then 22:49 Sokomine OldCoder: redcrabs world needs another type of protection. please don't take mods, configs or anything else from the landrush world. they're wastly diffrent, although both attracted good players 22:49 OldCoder Sokomine, feel free to suggest specific changes 22:49 Sokomine OldCoder: areas mod by shadowninja 22:50 oOChainLynxOo Hmm what's the string name for a protection block 22:50 OldCoder Sokomine, are you saying to add that or remove that? 22:50 Sokomine OldCoder: remove landrush protection mod, add areas protection mod. installing the original list of protections is also necessary 22:50 OldCoder I don't think I have landrush mod 22:51 OldCoder And feel free to suggest how to get the original list of protections 22:51 OldCoder I think it will need to be reconstructed 22:51 Sokomine what vanessae described is the behaviour specific to the landrush mod. it has such landclaim blocks that disappear after placement. could of course be a clone/fork of it 22:51 OldCoder Which is precisely why waiting to set up this world is inadvisable 22:51 OldCoder I don't have the landrush mod 22:52 Sokomine hmm. are you certain? it may be called landclaim or whatever. you have it at least on the landrush server i think 22:52 OldCoder Wait 22:52 VanessaE I believe redcrab's server used a variant of the old node_ownership mod, so areas mod should work in its place 22:52 OldCoder http://minetest.org/silvermods.txt 22:52 OldCoder There you go, Sokomine 22:52 VanessaE I believe areas mod can load node_ownership's data table 22:53 OldCoder The two of you decide and tell me what to do 22:53 VanessaE As Sokomine said. Use the areas mod. 22:54 OldCoder Link? 22:54 VanessaE https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas 22:54 OldCoder Direct download link? 22:54 VanessaE git clone https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas.git 22:54 OldCoder Wait 22:54 VanessaE or download, https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas/archive/master.zip 22:54 OldCoder Moments 22:54 VanessaE wait? me? you're kidding right? ;) 22:55 OldCoder Do I just run this? No setup needed? 22:55 VanessaE um.. 22:55 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja 22:55 VanessaE I don't remember if there's any setup needed 22:55 OldCoder This doesn't seem to do anything 22:55 VanessaE I know it has some options you can change 22:55 OldCoder But provide the command to protect 22:55 VanessaE e.g. there's self-protection for example 22:55 VanessaE and you can set the limits of that 22:55 OldCoder Feel free to suggest a config file 22:55 VanessaE sec 22:56 OldCoder It doesn't do anything by itself 22:56 VanessaE areas.self_protection = true 22:56 VanessaE areas.self_protection_max_size = {x=50, y=100, z=50} 22:56 VanessaE areas.self_protection_max_areas = 36 22:56 VanessaE put this in minetest.conf 22:56 VanessaE you may want to tune the size and area count 22:56 OldCoder What does that 36 do? 22:56 VanessaE that's how many areas an individual can claim without an Admin's help 22:57 OldCoder Will this protect existing areas? 22:57 VanessaE I used 36 because users are always claiming lots of little areas, e.g. small buildings et al. 22:57 OldCoder Will this protect existing areas? 22:57 VanessaE yes, there is a way to load the node_ownership data file 22:57 VanessaE sec 22:58 VanessaE ah 22:58 VanessaE /legacy_load_areas maybe? 22:58 VanessaE (after which, I believe it then saves it in its current format and works with the result from there like normal) 22:58 Sokomine VanessaE: that's right. redcrab had a variant of node_ownership (and his special form of registering). shadowninja wrote his areas mod with redcrabs server in mind and tested conversion of the saved area data with live data from redcrab back then 22:59 VanessaE /legacy_load_areas ...or... /legacy_load_areas 0 22:59 Sokomine OldCoder: also install my markers mod alongside. that's easier to handle for players 23:00 VanessaE one of those will read the data file and import its protected zones. 23:00 iqualfragile shadowzone: why are you in -dev and why does your cloak only work some times? 23:00 OldCoder Sokomine, one step at a time; first goal is to do basic repairs, second is protect existing areas 23:00 OldCoder VanessaE, indicate what to do more specifically? 23:01 shadowzone I go to devs to read and learn. 23:01 OldCoder Sokomine is there just now, she is free to do this now 23:01 VanessaE OldCoder: install that mod, make sure the node_ownership data file is in its usual place, start the server, sign on and do: /legacy_load_areas 23:01 shadowzone And I have to do /msg nickserv identify for it to work. 23:01 iqualfragile shadowzone: you should use sasl 23:01 shadowzone I just did that. 23:01 Sokomine ah. the cyan wool did convert. that worked fine so far 23:01 OldCoder VanessaE, make sure what node ownership file is where? I will listen and obey 23:01 VanessaE OldCoder: then just restart the server and confirm that the protected zones are working. 23:01 OldCoder VanessaE, make sure what node ownership file is where? I will listen and obey 23:02 iqualfragile https://www.freenode.net/sasl/sasl-hexchat.shtml 23:02 iqualfragile ah, good 23:02 VanessaE OldCoder: the datafile that contains the node_ownership protection entries. I don't know how you can go about getting that. *looks at Sokomine* 23:02 OldCoder There doesn't seem to be one 23:02 Sokomine need to check if i can still get a copy with the server not running 23:03 OldCoder What about from 30402 ? 23:03 VanessaE Sokomine: is there any way... ANY way at all to get a raw copy of the world folder from redcrab? 23:03 VanessaE OldCoder: what's at 30402? 23:03 OldCoder An old griefed copy of RedCrab 23:03 VanessaE ah, probably not then 23:03 OldCoder The nodes seem to know who planted them 23:04 OldCoder So, no mod will protect existing nodes? 23:04 VanessaE OldCoder: only if you have the datafile that contains the protection entries. 23:04 shadowzone I did that. 23:04 VanessaE OldCoder: I think areas mod can protect the whole world 23:04 OldCoder Can recreate from SQL but I lack the time 23:04 OldCoder Um 23:04 VanessaE and then you can open up holes to build in 23:04 VanessaE but that's hacky 23:04 Sokomine VanessaE: i have no more chances of contacting redcrab and getting a reply than anyone else. perhaps if someone could locate a more promising email adress? 23:05 OldCoder How is that better than limiting interact? 23:05 VanessaE OldCoder: well with interact and no protection of existing structures, just anyone could destroy the spawn, etc. 23:05 OldCoder Well, consider the matter and decide what is best 23:06 VanessaE OldCoder: until you can obtain the data file, you have no choice but to protect the whole world and whitelist. 23:06 OldCoder Indicate what to do, then 23:07 OldCoder I'd prefer to lock down just the core areas 23:07 VanessaE that's the problem...there aren't any "core" areas on re-- silvercrab 23:07 Sokomine the data about protection has been obtained. i'm not sure if it can be converted directly, or how the conversion process was intended 23:07 Sokomine perhaps some editing might be needed 23:07 OldCoder So, there's no way to protect just the nodes that have owners? 23:07 VanessaE Sokomine: what have you got? 23:07 VanessaE OldCoder: they're already protected anyway 23:08 OldCoder Explain 23:08 VanessaE OldCoder: only the owner of a node can dig that node. 23:08 VanessaE that's in the engine 23:08 OldCoder Um 23:08 OldCoder Then how does griefing happen? 23:08 VanessaE oh you mean a whole building. 23:08 VanessaE sorry, I took that to mean e.g. a locked chest 23:08 OldCoder Any node 23:09 VanessaE if an individual node has an owner assigned to it by the mod that created the node, as in the case of a locked chest or any of Home Decor's locked devices, then that node cannot be griefed. 23:09 VanessaE but that's all 23:09 OldCoder All right 23:09 VanessaE anything else is fair game if you don't have a working protection mod 23:09 OldCoder So we have no simple way to protect current buildings 23:09 VanessaE Sokomine: what about that data? what did you get? 23:09 VanessaE OldCoder: not as yet 23:11 zat how can I overlay a texture over another with a specified opacity? 23:11 zat like: [opacity:50:file 23:11 VanessaE zat: if it works at all, you have to set the opacity in the overlaid texture using your image editor. 23:11 VanessaE there isn't a combine operator for that 23:12 VanessaE I believe it DOES work though 23:12 VanessaE (it works for cracks anyway) 23:12 zat VanessaE: yes it works 23:12 zat but I dont want that 23:12 VanessaE that's all you can do I think 23:12 Nerotic wait 23:12 Nerotic just realized something 23:13 Nerotic if you used php get statements and made them echo data required for registering nodes, you could make a block maker (mod wise) 23:13 Nerotic $name_of_block = 'name'; 23:13 Sokomine OldCoder: the nether mod ought to go 23:13 Nerotic etc. etc. 23:13 VanessaE Nerotic: sure but how would you get the resultant code into Minetest? 23:14 VanessaE Sokomine: it's a fake mod 23:14 Sokomine VanessaE: the list of owned areas, pretty current. not from redcrab directly. he installed a mechanism a while ago so that i can get it automaticly 23:14 VanessaE that "nether" is a dummy 23:14 Nerotic VanessaE, save as perhaps, if it was an iframe program, or web based 23:14 VanessaE Sokomine: AHHH 23:14 VanessaE Sokomine: complete with coordinates? 23:15 Sokomine yes 23:15 VanessaE Sokomine: it should be possible then, to convert that data into something `areas` can import 23:15 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja 23:15 Sokomine complete with coordinates. i have to figure out how it can be fed to the areas mod. that may require minimal editing 23:16 Sokomine yes. shadowninja did that in the past, and i'm pretty sure areas can handle it. just need to check the how 23:16 VanessaE I forsee lots of bash, sed, awk and other shell operations :) 23:18 Sokomine hmm. perhaps 23:23 Sokomine areas has a legacy.lua file that looks promising 23:24 Sokomine until then: can you find out why the textures on silvercrab are broken? desert sand had the yellowish texture, not the orangeish one, and cobble looks like almost-modern cobble? or do i have a broken texture pack? 23:27 oOChainLynxOo Hmph 23:27 oOChainLynxOo I need more help 23:27 oOChainLynxOo Area's too big to protect 23:27 oOChainLynxOo Trying to protect the compass and Eiffel Tower 23:28 oOChainLynxOo Sokomine, VanessaE, what do I do 23:29 oOChainLynxOo Never mind, figured it out 23:29 Nerotic isnt chainlynx a youtuber? 23:29 oOChainLynxOo Yes 23:30 Nerotic ah i watch you like once a week 23:30 Nerotic nice videos 23:30 oOChainLynxOo Thank you :) 23:30 oOChainLynxOo I try 23:30 Nerotic It's pretty funny if you ask me. 23:30 Nerotic Good luck on future videos. 23:30 oOChainLynxOo Thank you Nerotic 23:30 Nerotic yep 23:31 Sokomine oOChainLynxOo: skip it for now. i'm working on the entire areas file 23:32 Sokomine oOChainLynxOo: if you did build something, er...save it with worldedit for now :-) that might be safest 23:32 oOChainLynxOo Ok 23:32 oOChainLynxOo But I already protected things 23:32 oOChainLynxOo Should I remove them 23:36 Sokomine that protection will disappear i think. or did you build anything new? 23:36 oOChainLynxOo Nothing new 23:37 shadowzone hey... 23:37 shadowzone <-- youtuber. 23:38 oOChainLynxOo LEl 23:38 oOChainLynxOo Lel* 23:38 oOChainLynxOo Shadowzone's a YouTuber too 23:38 oOChainLynxOo She does Minetest video too 23:38 shadowzone I am? 23:38 shadowzone Oh yes I am. 23:38 oOChainLynxOo videos* 23:39 shadowzone And Red Eclipse and planetside 2 next. 23:39 oOChainLynxOo :D 23:39 Sokomine ok. thanks for your effort :-) but it'll be easier with the automatic conversion 23:39 oOChainLynxOo Ok 23:46 Nerotic Shadowzone has a youtube? 23:46 Nerotic wow 23:48 shadowzone Yep. 23:51 cities I been there 23:51 cities I think I subscribed 23:53 Nerotic shadowzone, how old are you? 23:53 shadowzone 12 almost 13. 23:53 shadowzone Just got youtube last month or so. 23:54 Nerotic ah, and you say you are a girl? (as i read) 23:54 shadowzone Yep. 23:54 Nerotic you must be in 8th grade then ;P 23:54 cities You're so mature 23:54 cities For your age 23:55 cities At least in irc 23:55 Nerotic ^^^ 23:55 shadowzone I am in 8th grade math. 23:55 shadowzone I got held back a few in english so that's 7th grade. 23:55 shadowzone And I am a ace at science so it's 10th grade. 23:55 shadowzone I"m home schooled FYI. 23:56 cities You talk just great with people double your age 23:56 shadowzone Thanks. 23:56 cities I'm not a good judge of that 23:56 cities Eh eh 23:57 cities Didn't expect English to be your worst subject 23:58 cities Considering you use it better than I do 23:58 cities I'm trying swiftkey 23:58 shadowzone Lol. 23:58 shadowzone I've gotten better this year. 23:58 shadowzone I study like crazy. 23:59 cities But like you're not on twitter obsessing over one direction like i would think a lot of powwow