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00:18 exio4 hi!
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00:54 lemonlake_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=11&t=9277&p=154060#p154060
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01:12 Megaf_ bye all
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01:23 Corvid Hi
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01:31 blaise what the fsck do they think this is? walmart?
01:31 blaise if they're not greeted at the door they leave.. eh?
01:34 twoelk|2 walmart staff greets within 40 secs?
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01:56 Vazon is it possible to aliase the unified inventory home and sethome buttons to /home and /sethome so you can set home and home ether way yet only read the unified inventory home file
01:58 blaaaaargh no, but you may request such a feature
01:58 blaaaaargh also, -> #minetest-technic
02:06 blaise lol
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03:46 H-H-H hey guys do i cook meat like i do in minecraft?
03:46 H-H-H sorry for such a noob question :)
03:54 Hirato I actually don't remember, I assume you just stick it in a furnace or something
03:55 H-H-H i just tried that and it didnt work but the furnace is smelting my stone fine
03:55 H-H-H i just checked the wiki and apparently you dont cook meat :|
03:55 H-H-H thanks for replying tho :)
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03:56 Hirato I haven't really played since 0.3. anyway :P
04:01 H-H-H i just downloaded it and thought i would give it a go :)
04:10 blaise it really depends on the mods that are installed
04:11 blaise some mob mods allow the cooking of meat
04:11 H-H-H lol this is so much better than minecraft, for example i just burnt down a load of trees lol
04:11 blaise farming_plus is nice
04:12 VanessaE_ H-H-H: try my Dreambuilder subgame some time
04:12 VanessaE_ it's laggy at first, but after a few mins generating the world, I think you'll like it
04:13 VanessaE_ also try Calinou's Carbone
04:13 VanessaE_ another kind of subgame
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04:17 H-H-H thanks guys for suggestions
04:18 H-H-H when enabling mods for servers what does i mean when certain ones are blu ?
04:18 H-H-H blue even :|
04:19 VanessaE_ you don't enable mods for servers.
04:19 VanessaE_ the servers supply the content.
04:19 VanessaE_ the mods you download are only used when you're playing in singleplayer mode.
04:19 H-H-H ok i meant in the start server config
04:20 H-H-H it lets you chose world then config that world
04:20 VanessaE_ I forget the meaning of the colors but I think those are mods that are part of a modpack - you only need to turn on the "main" part of that modpack
04:20 H-H-H which includes a tab for enabling or disabvling mod packs
04:20 VanessaE_ normally the ones in green are the ones you're interested in
04:21 H-H-H ones in green appear to be enabled and change to white when disabled so i assume the ones in blue are default ones maybe
04:21 VanessaE_ ones in blue are part of some modpack you've installed
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06:03 sol_invictus anyone knows what handles middle click
06:04 sol_invictus in the crafting grid?
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06:40 kahrl sol_invictus: GUIFormSpecMenu
06:41 sol_invictus kahrl: thank you
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06:45 Krock Moo moo
06:46 sol_invictus oh, hay
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07:00 john_minetest Hello.
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07:09 Krock hi john_minetest
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07:16 john_minetest Best ad ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0
07:18 Krock !title
07:18 MinetestBot Krock: Experience the power of a bookbook™ - YouTube
07:18 Krock yes
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07:47 Krock http://i.imgur.com/BcU7a6F.png
07:49 ElectronLibre Wow.. Beautiful.
07:49 Krock yeah
07:49 Krock somehow, mobs are less laggy than players
07:51 ElectronLibre It's probably because the server don't have to wait for an answer of the client when he make the entities moving, or a more little answer. It's a good thing :).
07:51 ElectronLibre But I've never seen a mob with an armor ^^.
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07:52 Krock ah. you're french. all things are 'it'
07:52 Krock and not he
07:52 ElectronLibre Yes x(...
07:53 reactor Щщщщ!
07:53 reactor I mщan, hщllo thщre!
07:53 Krock *thщrщ
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07:53 reactor nщt nЖcessйrillщ!
07:54 ElectronLibre Hmm, I'm not the only one who can see these "щ".
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08:01 Krock lolololo http://i.imgur.com/g1cJ8WA.gif
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08:02 ElectronLibre Krock : They are too old to run now..
08:03 Krock ElectronLibre, yeah
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08:08 ElectronLibre Krock, did you find this picture by typing !cat ? ^^
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08:09 Krock ElectronLibre, nope.
08:09 Krock browsing in imgur
08:09 LemonLake yes krock
08:09 LemonLake i love you krock
08:09 ElectronLibre Ok.
08:09 Krock LemonLake, I don't love you.
08:09 LemonLake :'(
08:10 Krock LemonLake, is there a reason for your love?
08:10 LemonLake nein
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08:14 Krock peer and host are evil
08:15 LemonLake sorry
08:15 LemonLake shits going down here
08:15 Krock it's not rainy. it's poopy.
08:15 Krock omg noez! the username noob is registered now
08:16 LemonLake hehe
08:16 john_minetest /msg noob noob
08:16 john_minetest ;)
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08:17 john_minetest It's sunday, where are all the people?
08:17 Krock john_minetest, sleepin'
08:18 nman3600 john_minetest, I'm here.
08:18 john_minetest oooh
08:18 john_minetest This clock...
08:18 john_minetest The clock hanging on the wall is on low battery. It tells me that it's 15:00
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08:20 john_minetest And the other clock is a joke clock with the nubers printed on the wrong way round. So 10:00 looks like 2:00.
08:20 Krock john_minetest, look on bottom (or top) right of your screen. there's a time display
08:21 john_minetest I usually don't use it.
08:22 Krock hexahedra. got shadows since 4 years ... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JSewbFxl_6U/TQ5jEpkV​i0I/AAAAAAAAAKs/1mmBmwQBKMw/s400/compare.jpeg
08:22 Krock peer!
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08:23 LemonLake bloody hell that took far too much work
08:23 ElectronLibre This can probably help you : http://24timezones.com/ .
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08:30 Krock o/ PenguinDad
08:31 * PenguinDad squawks at Krock
08:34 nman3600 \o/ PenguinDad!
08:35 Krock heh. fail https://cdn.mediacru.sh/2QomaUmLLd6I.png
08:38 PenguinDad Freeminer lol
08:38 ElectronLibre Why can we see through the window?
08:38 Krock cuz it's galss
08:38 Krock glass*
08:38 Krock cuz freeminer.
08:38 ElectronLibre Ok, I see.
08:39 ElectronLibre The inventory slots are beautiful. :)
08:41 Calinou inventory background is too obstructive
08:41 Calinou it's exactly the point to be able to see behind it
08:42 Calinou (something we generally beat Minecraft at)
08:42 Calinou same goes for hotbar
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09:02 ElectronLibre It's calm this morning.
09:03 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: Maybe because most of us is asleep right now
09:04 ElectronLibre Probably. I don't know what time it is in the US.
09:04 * ElectronLibre do 11-2=9;9-6=2.
09:06 ElectronLibre I see, 2 A.M. on the west coast and 5 A.M. on the east coast.
09:07 Krock gonna hate youtube more and more. they're gonna remove the inbox feature
09:08 PenguinDad !c (11-2,9-6)
09:08 MinetestBot (9, 3)
09:08 PenguinDad ^ ElectronLibre
09:08 ElectronLibre Oups.
09:08 ElectronLibre *Oops
09:09 ElectronLibre Thank you MinetestBot.
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09:11 * ElectronLibre_ is wondering what happened.
09:11 * sfan5 meows at ElectronLibre_
09:12 ElectronLibre_ Hello sfan5 :).
09:12 sfan5 hi
09:13 PenguinDad Ping pong timeout I guess
09:13 ElectronLibre_ Yes.
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10:24 Megaf_ Hi all
10:25 Megaf_ Hi blaise
10:25 Megaf_ Hi ElectronLibre
10:25 Megaf_ Hi PenguinDad
10:31 john_minetest hi Megaf_
10:34 Megaf_ People are enjoying the spleef arena :)
10:34 Megaf_ VanessaE_: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipewor​ks/issues/74#issuecomment-55511264
10:34 Megaf_ noah_: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipewor​ks/issues/74#issuecomment-55521735
10:34 Megaf_ !title
10:34 MinetestBot Megaf_: mese filters will no longer take items from furnaces. · Issue #74 · VanessaE/pipeworks · GitHub
10:35 Megaf_ sorry noah_,
10:35 Megaf_ nore: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipewor​ks/issues/74#issuecomment-55521735
10:35 nore thanks
10:35 Krock Megaf_, I guess that's an ara protector issue
10:35 Krock *area
10:36 Megaf_ blaise: you added slimes :)
10:36 Megaf_ I'm thinking in adding them to my server, but I think it could cause lag
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10:55 ElectronLibre Hi Megaf_ :).
10:55 * Krock likes RegSeeker
10:56 * Megaf_ will go fullscreen in minetest
10:57 * Krock gives Megaf_ F11
10:58 Megaf_ Krock: that doesnt work in minetest, not on OS X
10:58 Megaf_ the OS X version of minetest is quite buggy
10:58 * Hirato checks git changelogs
10:58 Krock Megaf_, generally, there's no fullscreen feature
10:58 Krock go use windows then :P
10:59 Hirato proller: so what's the deal behind removing what I presume, was code you wrote? :P
10:59 Megaf_ Krock: or Debian, it works very nice on Debian
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11:08 Krock http://i.imgur.com/s0eRaWF.gif
11:12 * ElectronLibre is loading. Why the hell are gif pictures enormous...
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11:17 ElectronLibre Wow Krock, how can he do that? xD
11:17 Krock ElectronLibre, magic?
11:18 ElectronLibre I suppose x). No, it's training.
11:20 ElectronLibre And a lot of plates broken...
11:21 Krock plastic cups...
11:21 ElectronLibre Ho, I see.
11:21 Krock Wow, I'm so helpful https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=154096
11:21 ElectronLibre A lot of platic cups fallen so.
11:23 ElectronLibre Singlenode.. Not even at least one node to start somewhere.
11:23 Krock air is a node
11:23 Krock just not pointable.
11:23 ElectronLibre *A solid node
11:23 Krock a lua mapgen helps.
11:24 * ElectronLibre likes giving himself air .
11:24 Krock ElectronLibre, give yourself some wieldhands...
11:24 proller Hirato, what?
11:25 ElectronLibre It's funniest giving : yes.
11:25 Hirato proller: indev and math mapgens among other things
11:25 ElectronLibre *funnier?
11:26 * PenguinDad likes giving himself ignore
11:27 ElectronLibre It's fun too.
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11:29 t7 hey guys, can you write unicode characters on signs in minetest?
11:29 proller Hirato, they available in freeminer in much better state
11:30 ElectronLibre I don't think that it's possible t7..
11:30 t7 boo
11:30 ElectronLibre But I'm not sure.
11:30 Hirato I'd check, but minetest doesn't seem to work with uim
11:31 t7 i should make a memory palace builder thing
11:32 reactor t7: some Russian guys playing from laptops could.
11:32 reactor oops
11:32 reactor how are those called
11:32 reactor tablets!
11:32 t7 whats the difference between freeminer and minetest
11:32 PenguinDad and smartpones
11:32 reactor I couldn't see the text rendered on those signs.
11:32 jin_xi t7: for me about 20 fps... in favor of minetest
11:32 john_minetest t7: freeminer is a fork. It got some more features, is unstable and incompatible.
11:32 proller t7, http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/fu​ll-list-of-changes-from-minetest.110/
11:32 reactor Had to aim at them to read.
11:33 t7 real liquids ooo
11:33 reactor Will Minetest ever get a decent shooter functionality?
11:33 Krock thanks to proller for removing it from minetest
11:33 Hirato hahaha
11:33 reactor The firearms mod that exists, is quite laggy.
11:34 t7 farmesh ooo
11:34 PenguinDad reactor: did you try stu's shooter mod
11:34 PenguinDad more bs ooo
11:34 Krock ooo
11:34 proller super math mapgen with lot of fractals ooo
11:35 Hirato I still think -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 by default was retarded
11:35 Krock ..and shadows
11:35 Krock ooo
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11:35 PenguinDad ^ who the fuck needs that?
11:35 reactor PenguinDad: it was somewhat better, I'm not sure what I didn't like.
11:36 reactor Was it that guns don't have actual ammo? Or they break protected blocks?
11:36 proller Krock, i have shadows in very-dev branch, but need moooore work..
11:36 reactor Speaking of Russia. Anyone hosting a server there?
11:36 Krock proller, diffrent shadows to the current?
11:36 reactor I'm still unsure if the new law applies to hosting games.
11:36 Krock reactor, me but I'm not from Russia
11:37 * Krock points at sol_invictus
11:37 reactor Krock: aha, did the hosters have to write to somewhere that they intend to provide an "information service"?
11:37 T4im reactor: what new law?
11:37 reactor "bloggers law"
11:37 proller Krock, fully dynamic shadows
11:37 Krock reactor, not that I know of
11:38 reactor It says one must notify something or someone they are going to provide information services.
11:38 Krock proller, = sunlight depending?
11:38 exio4 is anyone bored? I want to make a super-modular-for-the-lulz setup for IPoIRC and want to know any useless abstraction I could add!
11:38 exio4 https://mediacru.sh/jDBHJ2LtEYul
11:38 Krock I mean, time-depending
11:38 proller Krock, yes, and player-torch too
11:39 Krock proller, if you get that done, I'll give you a cookie.
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11:39 Krock proller, and if it runs on my PC +/- smoothly, then you'll get a 2nd cookie.
11:39 reactor Krock: and they didn't notice game owners of any changes?
11:39 proller Krock, maybe in next year
11:40 Krock reactor, ehm no
11:40 PenguinDad Krock: Freeminer doesn't support Windows YP IIRC
11:40 PenguinDad *XP
11:40 Krock *XP
11:40 exio4 *XP
11:40 Krock aagh ninjas
11:40 jin_xi idk why fm is so choppy for me, turned off maps and wield light and still
11:40 T4im reactor: it appears to only comply to media that have more than 3000 daily readers
11:40 Krock PenguinDad, it should support it again
11:40 T4im apply*
11:40 jin_xi far mesh is trippy
11:40 reactor T4im: I initially thought that, too.
11:40 Krock well, the 0.4.9 version did..
11:41 reactor What bothers me, T4im, is the law states that one must notify them regardless.
11:41 Krock exio4, not very havy built graph, it could be more detailed
11:41 exio4 what isn't specified, is because I don't know what to do there
11:41 Krock *heavy
11:41 T4im hmm not a good sign.. they try to get the media under control.. and this time include digital media..
11:41 reactor And when the popularity reaches 3000, then they notify the hoster they have added them to registry.
11:42 reactor That sucks.
11:42 exio4 (code so far: https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC / https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC-hs)
11:42 reactor I had to shut down my server until further clarification.
11:42 T4im this is effectivly censoring in the making.. or at least their power to do so.. questions is why..
11:42 exio4 the HS version is the one who is supposed to implement the whole modular approach, the C version has a more finished feel because well, it is closer to alpha than proof of concept!
11:42 T4im :/
11:42 reactor Well, it's not a bad idea, regarding people write various nonsense.
11:43 exio4 Krock, what details could I add?
11:43 reactor What worries me is they didn't ever define what they mean by "information services".
11:43 reactor Only HTTP? Only websites? Everything?
11:44 T4im when a politicial entitiy tells you to report every user of a media, i doubt it's about preventing false information.. i would guess its about preventing information they dont like :/
11:44 Krock exio4, message strings informations (auth, chat, status messages..)
11:44 reactor And some newspaper said they made exceptions for technical art.
11:44 reactor But I could never find the actual source.
11:44 exio4 Krock, the protocol itself?
11:44 reactor Only that newspaper article -- I wouldn't trust it.
11:44 exio4 Krock, and "auth/chat/status messages" of what?
11:44 Krock exio4, yeah. so it won't look that empty
11:44 reactor T4im: that, too.
11:44 Krock ^ protocol
11:45 reactor That law would work well if political entities were honest. In reality, they are not.
11:45 reactor They may and will abuse it.
11:45 exio4 the IRC<->IRC protocol, is kinda simple, two lines could define it, yet I'm not sure if it is the right approach
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11:45 reactor As for the logs, I'm not eager to keep 100M/day of them.
11:46 reactor Unless someone bought me some new drives.
11:46 T4im the problem is, that this would be "use" not "abuse".. i bet it is fully intendet.. you dont pass such a law in these times without political reasons
11:46 exio4 will try to specify/"write somewhere else" as much as I can, then implement the smallest code that does the thing :P
11:46 reactor T4im: yep
11:46 Krock exio4, good luck
11:47 exio4 still, any things about the module setup?
11:47 reactor The idea of public media having some responsibilities for their information is good.
11:47 T4im and we all know that theres currently a lot of politics going on behind curtains that they dont tell us about :/
11:47 reactor But the idea.
11:47 reactor And this implementation is broken.
11:48 reactor The world looks like a graveyard of broken implementations of originally good ideas.
11:49 exio4 I really think the IRC module shouldn't care about the "inter-clients" protocol communication, but I think it'd be too un-practical to do tbh
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11:50 Krock Amaz, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/2QomaUmLLd6I.png
11:50 Krock da fail
11:51 john_minetest Transparency! This feature is so great!
11:51 Amaz Grr.
11:51 Krock I didn't know Amaz has a name
11:51 john_minetest Oh, it's freeminer.
11:52 Krock john_minetest reached 100% success after 120s
11:52 john_minetest It just looks pretty similar to minetest.
11:53 Amaz It's the silly screenshot program I use.
11:53 Krock Amaz, is F12 borken?
11:53 john_minetest Lol, who uses F12?
11:53 Krock <r< >o>
11:53 Krock john_minetest, me. since it doesn't output an empty file
11:54 Amaz I can't use it in menus.
11:54 john_minetest Prt Scr is the normal one.
11:54 john_minetest Oh, minetest has that thing built-in
11:54 Krock john_minetest, how about Alt + PrintScr?
11:54 john_minetest Well, I got i3.
11:55 reactor Why not leave screen shooting up to the windowing system?
11:55 john_minetest I usually screenshot by pressing alt-d and writing "scrot -d3 output.png"
11:55 reactor I'm pretty sure every decent window manager allows you to bind it to any key you like.
11:55 Krock 'i3'?
11:55 john_minetest i3wm.org
11:55 reactor Krock: yes.
11:55 Krock aha
11:56 john_minetest What I like about dmenu and entering commands there, is that I can tell it to wait n seconds until taking a picture.
11:57 Krock why should you wait until making a screenshot? better take t instantly
11:57 Krock *it
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11:57 Krock hmm. I wonder what -1s would do
11:57 reactor Sometimes you do need a delay.
11:58 john_minetest "scrot -d-1000000000000000 old.png"
11:58 reactor john_minetest: time machine?!
11:58 john_minetest Yeah.
11:59 john_minetest I bet, if you find the right numbers, you can take a photograph of your grandfather's typewriter or the mayan computers.
12:00 reactor Are you sure that wouldn't destroy the universe?
12:00 PenguinDad lol
12:00 Krock john_minetest, you just traveled back -31709791.983764586504312531709792 years
12:00 LemonLake hello all
12:00 LemonLake i have returned
12:00 Krock !c -1000000000000000 / (60*60*24*365)
12:00 MinetestBot -31709791.983764585
12:00 Krock da percision.
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12:03 LemonLake o.o
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12:03 LemonLake we got a fuckin war goin on here
12:04 Krock yeah
12:06 Amaz What war?
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12:08 * LemonLake wonders what to add to factory next
12:09 john_minetest 31 Million years... Welp...
12:10 LemonLake o.o
12:10 LemonLake is that how old you are?
12:10 john_minetest No, it is thhe age of my screenshot.
12:10 LemonLake how so?
12:10 Jordach sfan5, invitey to -stuff
12:10 sfan5 huh?
12:11 sfan5 Jordach: just log in next time
12:11 Jordach ah
12:11 Jordach dammit SASL
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12:12 Jordach better
12:12 Jordach put one too many chars in
12:13 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
12:18 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/​memberlist.php?mode=leaders o.o
12:18 LemonLake what is going on with shadwo's name
12:18 LemonLake and where did everyone else go?
12:18 LemonLake why is kaeza on there ó.ó
12:18 Krock the mushromAdam is missing
12:19 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/mem​berlist.php?mode=group&amp;g=5
12:19 Krock mhm
12:19 LemonLake what about a tree farm for factory?
12:19 Jordach yesh
12:20 LemonLake two or three nodes that plant saplings and cut them down
12:21 Krock why not a salpings to wood convertor node?
12:23 LemonLake like an incubator for trees?
12:25 Krock This looks cool: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?p=79925#p79925
12:25 Krock LemonLake, yeah.
12:25 LemonLake that sounds interesting
12:25 LemonLake sapling + coal = 3-6 logs
12:26 Krock + fire = laav
12:26 Krock *lava
12:26 LemonLake oooh
12:26 LemonLake a use for portable tanks
12:27 LemonLake if you put a fire below this node, put in a sapling, and put an empty tank or a lava tank in the second slot, it'd fill the tank with lava
12:27 Krock add pumps for that
12:28 LemonLake pumps?
12:28 Krock to transport the lava
12:28 LemonLake i see, sorta like pipeworks support?
12:28 LemonLake and if pipeworks isn't installed the pump just puts it straight into a tank
12:28 Krock hmm or your own stuff
12:29 LemonLake im sure i could integrate a similar sort of thing
12:29 LemonLake essentially a separate pipe for the job
12:30 LemonLake i'll see what i can do
12:30 LemonLake is there a group for saplings?
12:30 ElectronLibre I think yes. group:sapling
12:31 Krock add a table for outputs
12:31 Krock don't make it group-wise
12:31 LemonLake code shows no evidence of it
12:31 john_minetest There is already a method to harvest trees.
12:31 * Krock downloads randisk
12:31 john_minetest Using pipeworks
12:31 Krock *ramdisk 4.4
12:31 LemonLake so a table for input>output
12:32 PenguinDad *rantdisk :p
12:32 Krock rentdisk
12:33 LemonLake now to add moretrees support
12:34 john_minetest what's ramdisk 4.4?
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12:40 LemonLake any more tree mods i should support?
12:41 Krock !g ramdisk
12:41 MinetestBot Krock: http://memory.dataram.com/produc​ts-and-services/software/ramdisk
12:41 * PenguinDad prefers "mount -t tmpfs none /some/mountpoint -o size=somesize"
12:45 Megaf_ Krock: Linux has built in ramdisk...
12:45 Megaf_ and it uses it out of the box
12:48 john_minetest Lol, I pay 9$ for a program that gives me a ramdisk?
12:48 john_minetest I am running OS live, from RAM! Super fast disk access!
12:49 john_minetest For $0!
12:49 john_minetest yay!
12:49 Krock john_minetest, it's incompatible with windows XP, so I have to use an other program now
12:49 john_minetest Why do you need a ramdisk?
12:49 john_minetest Just buy an SSD.
12:50 john_minetest Or 500 HDDs because they are ultra-cheap now.
12:50 Krock john_minetest, ramdisks are useful for temponary things and you don't need to care about deleting that stuff
12:51 john_minetest Doesn't windows have a "Temp" directory somewhere?
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12:51 Krock john_minetest, and that's again on the HDD...
12:51 john_minetest Or is it just called "Temp" and actually a usual one?
12:51 Krock Win + R -> enter %TEMP%
12:51 Krock that's where it is
12:51 john_minetest Well, but at least windows should delete it for you..
12:52 ElectronLibre Krock : It is in C:\Windows
12:52 ElectronLibre *john_minetest sorry
12:52 john_minetest http://www.techspot.com/downloa​ds/5536-amd-radeon-ramdisk.html
12:52 john_minetest This one says, that it works on all windows
12:53 ElectronLibre C:\Windows\Temp is the exact directory.
12:53 Krock ElectronLibre, you can chose where it sohuld go to
12:53 Krock but in 99% of the cases, it's there. yes
12:54 john_minetest Lol, backslashes :3
12:54 Krock C:
12:54 PenguinDad Backslashes look ugly in paths imo
12:55 Krock double backslasheslok ugly.
12:55 Krock *look
12:55 Krock C:\\Windows\\Temp\\
12:55 ElectronLibre I don't moodify %TEMP%, I only create some useful others variables like %PROGPATH% for all my programms.
12:55 PenguinDad /tmp/ looks much nicer imo
12:55 ElectronLibre Double backslashes is ugly :x...
12:56 ElectronLibre *are
12:56 Krock ElectronLibre, %programfiles%?
12:57 ElectronLibre No, the programs I've created. %PROGrammingfilePATH%
12:57 PenguinDad %IHASNOIDEAYUUSE%%FORVARIABLES%
12:59 Krock %CUZGLOBALISGOOD%
12:59 * ElectronLibre prefers tying %PROGPATH% instead of C:UsersMgDocumentsProgrammation in Explorer.exe.
12:59 ElectronLibre *typing...
13:00 Krock A question at school: What are free electrons?
13:00 Krock > American Electrons
13:00 ElectronLibre xD
13:01 ElectronLibre Brainwashing?...
13:01 PenguinDad I don't get it
13:01 Krock answer from teacher: I think they only feel free. but that's not the answer
13:02 Krock PenguinDad, free electrons are those in metals
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13:02 PenguinDad !server players:most
13:02 MinetestBot PenguinDad: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 59/78, 57/66 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 39ms
13:02 ElectronLibre Whose server is this exactly?
13:02 Amaz !server players:least
13:02 MinetestBot Amaz: Creative Server By TnT | 151.16.113.150:30005 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 34ms
13:03 PenguinDad Krock: I know that but I don't get the American Electrons part
13:03 Krock PenguinDad, too complicated. nvm
13:03 Krock also, I wonder why Minetest 0.4.8-next gives me more fps than the non-next
13:04 ElectronLibre Probably a !g could be useful here ^^.
13:04 Krock which settings adds a smooth look-around?
13:05 PenguinDad !g Why does Minetest 0.4.8-next give me more fps than non-next?
13:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8638
13:06 PenguinDad wat
13:06 Krock not exactly.
13:06 Krock !title
13:06 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] Creatures [1.1.4 beta] [creatures] - Minetest Forums
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13:07 Amaz !server players:average
13:07 MinetestBot Amaz: No results
13:07 Amaz :(
13:08 ElectronLibre !server mod:most
13:08 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: No results
13:08 ElectronLibre :fail:
13:09 ElectronLibre Only runs with a name or a player:*?
13:09 Krock !server help
13:09 MinetestBot Krock: No results
13:09 PenguinDad !server port:most
13:09 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
13:09 Krock lol
13:09 PenguinDad :(
13:09 * ElectronLibre retries with mods:most
13:10 ElectronLibre !server mods:most
13:10 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: No results
13:10 PenguinDad !server ping:least
13:10 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Craig's Server | 86.157.170.46 | Clients: 1/30, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Craig-Server | Ping: 13ms
13:10 PenguinDad :O
13:10 ElectronLibre --'... Ok, it only runs with players:* and ping:*
13:11 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: port: should theoretically work too
13:11 ElectronLibre I try.
13:11 ElectronLibre !server port:least
13:11 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: No results
13:12 ElectronLibre This bot really hates me °_°...
13:12 PenguinDad !server ping:least i:-1
13:12 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Craig's Server | 86.157.170.46 | Clients: 1/30, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Craig-Server | Ping: 13ms
13:13 * ElectronLibre admire PenguinDad , the master of the bots.
13:14 PenguinDad I'm not a master I just know how to incorrectly use the commands :p
13:14 Megaf_ !server Megaf
13:14 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 3/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1246ms
13:14 Megaf_ It would be nice if the bot could list players on a server
13:14 Megaf_ !server help
13:14 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
13:14 ElectronLibre !server platers:least
13:15 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: No results
13:15 Megaf_ !server players:least
13:15 MinetestBot Megaf_: Groglandia | familygrog.no-ip.org | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 5888ms
13:15 Megaf_ !server players:more
13:15 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
13:15 * ElectronLibre hates the typos..
13:15 Megaf_ !server players:most
13:15 MinetestBot Megaf_: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 61/78, 57/66 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 38ms
13:15 ElectronLibre !server players:average
13:15 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: No results
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13:17 Megaf_ !server addr:minetest.megaf.info
13:17 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 3/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1246ms
13:17 Megaf_ !server - >3
13:17 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
13:18 Megaf_ !server >3
13:18 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
13:18 Megaf_ server -=3
13:18 Megaf_ !server -=3
13:18 MinetestBot Megaf_: No results
13:18 Megaf_ ElectronLibre: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
13:19 ElectronLibre Thank you.
13:19 Krock Megaf_, ##minetestbot
13:23 sfan5 uh
13:23 sfan5 what
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13:23 sfan5 Megaf_: !server players:>3
13:24 Megaf_ oh
13:24 Megaf_ !server players:>3
13:24 MinetestBot Megaf_: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 67/78, 58/67 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 37ms
13:24 * ElectronLibre is still loading the Command.md page..
13:24 sfan5 !server players:>3 i:-1
13:24 MinetestBot sfan5: GoldRush | 108.94.133.186 | Clients: 6/40, 4/7 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 127ms
13:25 sfan5 ^ Megaf_ first server with >3 players
13:25 Megaf_ !server Megaf
13:25 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/9, 3/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 996ms
13:25 PenguinDad !server ping:>1337
13:25 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
13:26 PenguinDad :(
13:26 * ElectronLibre thinks that Megaf_ is very worried about his server ^^.
13:26 Megaf_ Not really, Im not even plaing on it
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13:31 * ElectronLibre tries something.
13:32 ElectronLibre !g Mendeleïev's table
13:32 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tableau_p​%C3%A9riodique_des_%C3%A9l%C3%A9ments
13:32 ElectronLibre Thank you (He guess that I'm french xD)!
13:34 ElectronLibre I already know it... I wasted a !g...
13:37 ElectronLibre Have anyone ever think to add a translation command with Google Translate? x)
13:38 MinetestBot [Git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo in comment in chat.cpp 206f076 http://git.io/oJ-KTw (2014-09-14T15:37:27+02:00)
13:38 Krock why not http://www.bing.com/translator/ ?
13:39 ElectronLibre I've never heard about it.
13:40 Krock that typo is irrelevant to the function
13:40 * ElectronLibre remember that nobody has answer his pull-request..
13:41 Krock ElectronLibre, looks good. Acceptable
13:43 ElectronLibre Yes, somebody had a problem and he ask me why /teleport a b returned him "Players doesn't exist", I found that the only fail case in /teleport was player doesn't exist, and that there weren't any verification for the bring privs.
13:43 ElectronLibre (Not sure about this answer, if somebody want to correct it.)
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13:47 ElectronLibre Wow, that's two weeks I opened it :D
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13:48 Krock ElectronLibre, some of my pulls and issues' future are also unknown
13:48 ElectronLibre Hmm... "Life is unfair".
13:50 ElectronLibre When somebody will ask me why with only "teleport" privilege, a and b connected, /teleport a b return "player doesn't exist", I will know why :).
13:54 Krock the life isn't a pony farm
13:54 ElectronLibre Yes...
14:04 ElectronLibre It's probably because nobody know how I am and I didn't explain my modifications on the forum (and because a lot of pull-request merged before mine will diseapper...).
14:06 iqualfragile ElectronLibre: where is your pull request?
14:06 ElectronLibre Here : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1591
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14:08 nore ElectronLibre, you should go to #minetest-dev if you want an answer
14:09 ElectronLibre Ok...
14:09 nore it's unlikely you will get one here, you should ask there other devs about their thoughts on your pull
14:09 ElectronLibre Ok, thank you nore.
14:09 nore you're welcome :)
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14:32 * Krock wonders if today's the pull-merge-day
14:33 iqualfragile Krock: pull-merge-day is never
14:34 Krock :(
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14:46 PenguinDad Krock: pull-merge-day is at NaN.NaN.NaN
14:47 Krock PenguinDad, you can't attach NaN to a string
14:47 Krock so, it's just NaN
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14:50 PenguinDad Krock: You're right :/ "ERROR: `convert` has no method matching convert(::Type{ASCIIString}, ::Float64)"
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14:54 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
14:55 * PenguinDad looks at sfan5
14:55 * sfan5 curls up to PenguinDad's lap
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14:57 PenguinDad <3 http://julialang.org/
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15:03 * Jordach found a homedecor bug
15:05 twoelk report to pest control
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15:16 Jordach wat
15:16 Jordach create an upside down slab with the screwdriver then sneak jump repeatably
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15:17 Jordach (preferably on top of another nodebox
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15:22 twoelk one of several ways to peek on the noclip side of reallity?
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16:36 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTc4Nzg → the true Phoronix review
16:37 Out`Of`Control how do i compile latest version?
16:37 Out`Of`Control debian here
16:38 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=3837
16:41 Out`Of`Control i can't install half of libs listen there
16:41 Krock mhm any debian users online here?
16:41 Krock Calinou!
16:44 Calinou I'm not a Debian user in bare metal, but you can ask
16:44 Calinou I haven't tested this with Debian
16:44 Out`Of`Control Debian Unstable
16:45 Out`Of`Control that compile guide confuses me
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16:47 Out`Of`Control I download source code, how do i generate make file?
16:48 diemartin cmake [options] .
16:50 Krock diemartin, where's your colored title gone to?
16:50 Out`Of`Control http://pastebin.com/bvcPZecE
16:50 diemartin colored title? O_o
16:50 PenguinDad Krock: Somewhere else!
16:51 Krock diemartin, I remember your forums name in yellow letters
16:51 diemartin !rainbow Title
16:51 MinetestBot 4T7i8t3le
16:51 diemartin there ^
16:51 Krock ....
16:51 PenguinDad diemartin's title is here :>
16:51 diemartin ^that doesn't ping me :>
16:52 diemartin Krock, ninja powers
16:52 PenguinDad !rainbow PenguinDad
16:52 MinetestBot 4Pe7ng8ui3nDad
16:52 PenguinDad ^ That does ping me
16:52 diemartin (a.k.a. a dropdown to select my "default" group)
16:52 Out`Of`Control any help?
16:52 Krock !railbow Krock wonders
16:52 Krock meh
16:53 Krock !rainbow Krock wonders even more
16:53 MinetestBot 4Kro7ck 8won3ders e6ven mo4re
16:53 Krock ^no ping
16:53 PenguinDad Krock wonders
16:53 Out`Of`Control !version
16:53 Krock https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
16:54 diemartin Out`Of`Control, try selecting more software sources in the relevant config dialog
16:54 diemartin or try Google :P
16:54 Krock or try !g
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16:54 kaeza !g Krock
16:54 MinetestBot kaeza: http://krock.com/
16:55 Out`Of`Control Krock:   i can not add Ubuntu or any other sources as i run unstable
16:55 Krock I know.
16:55 Out`Of`Control kaeza:
16:55 Krock Out`Of`Control, I can not help you anyway. Windows user.
16:55 Out`Of`Control bah
16:56 sfan5 Calinou: today Krock had the idea of adding a proprietary library to minetest and you weren't there
16:56 kaeza Out`Of`Control, it's here apparently: http://packages.debian.org/sid/cmake
16:57 Flipsels Any thoughts on this: http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/13/614​4359/microsoft-minecraft-deal-rumors
16:57 Krock sfan5, irc.minetest.ru
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16:57 Flipsels will it affect minetest?
16:58 kaeza so something's wrong with your `aptitude` (pun not intended)
16:58 VanessaE_ Flipsels: no.
16:58 Calinou sfan5, which one?
16:58 Krock ^ aah, commas
16:58 sfan5 Calinou: irrklang
16:58 VanessaE_ Flipsels: minetest is an independent project that will not be altered in any way by that deal, aside from maybe gaining some users as people leave Minecraft.
16:59 MinetestBot 4I'm 7a ca8t, p3lease pe6t me. me4ow :7​3
16:59 * kaeza pets MinetestBot
16:59 * MinetestBot purrs
16:59 * VanessaE_ sprays water on MinetestBot
16:59 * Krock MinetestBots meow
16:59 * MinetestBot runs away
16:59 * ElectronLibre wonders how sfan5 did that.
17:00 sfan5 magic
17:00 * ElectronLibre MinetestBots meow
17:00 Out`Of`Control running update fix it
17:00 * MinetestBot meows
17:00 sfan5 !deop sfan5 ShadowNinja VanessaE_
17:00 * PenguinDad pets MinetestBot
17:00 Krock !cat
17:00 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/TC7fv.jpg
17:00 ShadowNinja D-:
17:00 ElectronLibre How can they add color?
17:00 * MinetestBot 4p7u8r3rs
17:01 ShadowNinja sfan5: IRC allows four modes at a time...
17:01 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I'm aware
17:01 ElectronLibre Ho, I forgot,
17:01 ElectronLibre Hi MinetestBot
17:01 MinetestBot Hello ElectronLibre!
17:01 Krock ,01meow
17:01 ShadowNinja sfan5: Fix MinetestBot!
17:01 sfan5 ShadowNinja: pull requests are welcome! ;)
17:01 ShadowNinja sfan5: Also, I think I know how to fix that master-server issue you had a while ago.
17:01 sfan5 the resetting
17:02 sfan5 ?
17:02 sfan5 it's gone now anyway
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17:02 PenguinDad Krock!
17:02 Out`Of`Control Calinou:  could you add sudo apt-get update to that guide? LOL
17:02 Krock ,00PenguinDad!
17:02 Calinou Out`Of`Control, maybe
17:02 Calinou it's often automatically done by the system anyway
17:02 Out`Of`Control that fixed my problem
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17:02 sfan5 <Calinou> it's often automatically done by the system anyway
17:02 * Out`Of`Control compiling
17:02 sfan5 [citation needed]
17:02 Calinou and maybe not needed
17:03 VanessaE_ bbl
17:03 Calinou new packages are very rare
17:03 Calinou I'll add it anyway
17:03 PenguinDad ,05Squawk
17:03 MinetestBot 4M7e8o3w!
17:03 * ElectronLibre runs away...
17:03 Calinou <sfan5> Calinou: irrklang
17:03 Calinou what does that do
17:04 sfan5 sound library
17:04 sfan5 !g irrklang
17:04 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.ambiera.com/irrklang/
17:04 sfan5 "rKlang is a high level 2D and 3D cross platform (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux) sound engine and audio library which plays WAV, MP3, OGG, FLAC, MOD, XM, IT, S3M and more file formats, and is usable in C++ and all .NET languages (C#, VisualBasic.NET, etc). It has all the features known from low level audio libraries as well as lots of useful features like a sophisticated streaming engine, extendable audio reading, single and multithreading modes, 3d audio
17:04 sfan5 emulation for low end hardware, a plugin system, multiple rolloff models and more. All this can be accessed via an extremely simple API."
17:04 sfan5 there you go
17:04 kaeza why not DUMB?
17:05 sfan5 kaeza: too dumb
17:05 kaeza <_<
17:05 sfan5 >_>
17:05 kaeza http://dumb.sf.net
17:06 * kaeza would love to be able to play module files
17:06 kaeza using OGG for BGM is wasteful
17:06 john_minetest Megaf_: Admin call on your server.
17:06 Out`Of`Control thanks it works now
17:07 Calinou how about we write a remote_media guide?
17:07 Calinou we don't use .xpm for images after all
17:08 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes.  Flask makes globals into request context thread locals.
17:08 ShadowNinja But it gives you an object to use globals.
17:09 sfan5 Calinou: fell free to write one
17:09 Calinou you made the remote_media complicated stuff
17:11 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:11 sfan5 my script is easy to use
17:11 sfan5 jm
17:11 sfan5 hm
17:12 sfan5 looking at the servers.minetest.net logs I have the feeling that there are more buildcraft iOS users than PC
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17:13 * ElectronLibre likes to be automatically connected when he is disconnected.
17:13 Out`Of`Control any way/tricks to load media/texture faster?
17:14 ElectronLibre In Minetest > Settings > Preload Item Visual = false.
17:15 sfan5 ^
17:15 Out`Of`Control old version from debian repos load much faster
17:16 ElectronLibre Probably because there is less textures and less files to load.
17:16 Calinou <sfan5> my script is easy to use
17:16 Calinou obscure
17:16 Calinou why do we have to encode?
17:16 sfan5 encode?
17:16 Calinou rename the files to weird stuff
17:16 Calinou why can't we just use index-less method
17:16 Out`Of`Control i connect to same server
17:16 Calinou what's the advantages of the index-less method? index-y method?
17:16 Calinou such a guide would let you know all that
17:16 sfan5 Calinou: because the client can't know whether the default_stone.png the server has is the one it wants
17:17 Calinou instead of wondering why and not knowing why something doesn't work
17:17 sfan5 the server sends the client hashes
17:17 sfan5 the client needs the files with those hash
17:17 Calinou <sfan5> looking at the servers.minetest.net logs I have the feeling that there are more buildcraft iOS users than PC
17:17 Calinou mobile is a gigantic market
17:17 sfan5 Calinou: I'll be doing statistics of the last 10 days
17:17 Calinou just test has 70 players…
17:17 Calinou we need server banning
17:17 sfan5 we have that
17:17 Calinou and guest disabling in the default game
17:18 Calinou guest was a terrible idea
17:18 Calinou made by proller/sapier
17:18 Calinou as usual :P
17:18 sfan5 but we don't exercise it for too many players
17:19 Calinou the server is bad-quality, the players are bad-quality…
17:19 sfan5 then the people will just go to the next server
17:19 sfan5 !server i:2
17:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Liberty Land Minetest | m.ayntest.net | Clients: 25/35, 14/26 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 76ms
17:19 sfan5 that one
17:19 Calinou or they would leave
17:19 sfan5 they won't
17:19 Calinou not sure if player quality is good on any high-popularity public server
17:19 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:20 Megaf_ Hi
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17:46 sfan5 holy shit
17:46 sfan5 0.4.7 or older -> 281903 52.78%
17:46 sfan5 serious version problem here
17:46 sfan5 ^ Calinou clients of the serverlist in the last _10_ days
17:47 ElectronLibre O_O
17:48 Calinou change protocol at each version?
17:48 Calinou most games do this
17:48 sfan5 how about no
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17:50 PenguinDad We should really have the ability to get a client's version from lua
17:50 sfan5 nah
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17:52 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: 09-13 09:45 UTC <PenguinDad> <3 https://soundcloud.com/excisio​n/excision-shambhala-2014-mix
17:53 EvergreenTree PenguinDad: \o/
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17:57 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: /o\
17:59 EvergreenTree PenguinDad: https://soundcloud.com/dubstep/twi​ne-killing-machine-edmcom-premiere
18:00 jin_xi ugh turned off my computer when i meant to wake it.
18:00 jin_xi it has no keyboard and no power buttons and such, so i short a connector on the mobo
18:01 jin_xi but when you get the wrong one... oh well
18:02 kahrl jin_xi: be glad you didn't get the 5V to GND one
18:02 Megaf lol
18:03 Megaf Ive done that several times
18:03 Megaf sometimes I forget the right pin and just begin to short all pins till I manage to wake it up
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18:06 jin_xi kahrl: why what can happen?
18:07 kahrl dunno, haven't tried yet :P
18:08 kahrl actually I think if your power source isn't utter crap it shouldn't cause damage
18:09 Calinou <jin_xi> it has no keyboard and no power buttons and such, so i short a connector on the mobo
18:09 Calinou why don't you have one?
18:09 Calinou you should never do that
18:09 Calinou good motherboards have buttons to power up anyway
18:09 Calinou which acts like an usual power button
18:10 jin_xi its an old laptop without much of its casing
18:10 Out`Of`Control jin_xi:  you short power button pins?
18:11 jin_xi i put the scissors over the solder of the connector where the part of the casing with volume and powerbuttons was connected
18:11 jin_xi carefully...
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18:16 Calinou this is jin_xi: http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/048.jpg
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18:23 sfan5 Calinou: "armv7  -> 168933 69.36%" mobile is a huge market you say?
18:23 Calinou what's that number and percentage?
18:24 sfan5 number of devices running 0.4.10 that use the armv7 arch
18:24 sfan5 and percentage those vs. all 0.4.10 clients
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18:27 Calinou that's a lot?
18:27 sfan5 yes
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18:31 sfan5 Desktop -> 68212  28.00%
18:31 sfan5 Mobile  -> 175286 71.97%
18:31 sfan5 ^ Calinou: more precisely
18:31 ElectronLibre O_O
18:31 Amaz sfan5, is that the number of downloads?
18:31 sfan5 not that surprising
18:32 sfan5 Amaz: dunno, I don't host that
18:32 sfan5 I'll publish the full stats later
18:32 Amaz Any idea what does the number refer to?
18:33 sfan5 total: 243529
18:33 sfan5 (all 0.4.10 clients)
18:36 sfan5 "Windows 5.1-Szervizcsomag_3"
18:36 sfan5 o.o
18:41 sfan5 FreeBSD -> 20     00.00%
18:41 sfan5 poor BSD users
18:42 Out`Of`Control its dl statistic?
18:42 sfan5 no
18:43 sfan5 statistics for polling the server list
18:43 sfan5 the last 10 days
18:43 sfan5 only the 0.4.10 clients
18:43 sfan5 (because only 0.4.10 sends that info)
18:43 Out`Of`Control android version is on f-droid?
18:43 sfan5 possibly
18:44 Out`Of`Control its not there :/
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18:48 Megaf !server Megaf
18:48 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 8/20, 5/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 258ms
18:49 ElectronLibre You're really worried about your server Megaf ^^...
18:49 Megaf even the clients quantity is not corrent
18:49 Megaf oh, it is
18:49 Megaf nevermind
18:49 Megaf ElectronLibre: is the only server that I remeber the name
18:50 Megaf !server Linux
18:50 MinetestBot Megaf: LinuxGaming.us | LinuxGaming.us | Clients: 4/20, 3/7 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 5270ms
18:50 Megaf LazyJ_2: My ping is better then yours
18:50 Megaf lol
18:55 Amaz Megaf, what port of your server do you recommend?
18:56 Megaf Amaz: It only listens to port 30003
18:56 Amaz Ah.
18:56 Amaz Did you have sereral servers up at one point?
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19:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: Actually it turns out that globals are O.K.  But I moved the DB functions into a class, which seems cleaner to me.  Comments?  http://sprunge.us/HjBZ?diff
19:18 ShadowNinja I'll push a config.py ->config-example.py and .gitignore+config.py meanwhile.
19:19 sfan5 ShadowNinja: every 10 secs for the old server purging
19:19 sfan5 is ok
19:19 sfan5 ShadowNinja: looks good, push
19:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: You can set that then, but that's a relatively heavy operation.
19:19 sfan5 kk
19:20 sfan5 then 2 secs
19:20 ShadowNinja And it doesn't have to be done often really, it doesn't change often.
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19:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: The purging time change was for testing, switched back to 1 minute.
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19:31 MinetestBot [Git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/master-server: Move server list management functions into a class 561cfb5 http://git.io/Jqemzw (2014-09-14T15:29:51-04:00)
19:31 MinetestBot [Git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/master-server: Add __pycache__ to .gitignore e93a04f http://git.io/3DGV_g (2014-09-14T15:29:51-04:00)
19:31 MinetestBot [Git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/master-server: Move config.py to config-example.py and .gitignore the real config 3a891e5 http://git.io/1nSvjQ (2014-09-14T15:29:50-04:00)
19:35 MinetestBot [Git] ShadowNinja -> minetest/master-server: Change default development server listen address back to 127.0.0.1 8c0dd17 http://git.io/4zUzJw (2014-09-14T15:33:24-04:00)
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19:41 john_minetest http://blog.freenode.net/2014/09/server-issues-2/
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19:42 Amaz Any chance of this pull being merged soon? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/294
19:42 sfan5 !title
19:42 MinetestBot sfan5: Enable dungeons by default by Amaz1 · Pull Request #294 · minetest/minetest_game · GitHub
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20:27 zat Freenode keeps acussing me of excess flow...
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20:29 VanessaE_ build a better dam?
20:29 VanessaE_ use a better maxi pad? :)
20:29 zat eh
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20:33 Daryl_ VanessaE, May i have Interact on 1 of your servers?
20:33 VanessaE_ which one?
20:33 Daryl_ surivial ill Log in soon
20:33 VanessaE_ ok
20:37 zat is there even a purpose on playing without interact?
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20:40 VanessaE_ I don't grant it by default.  griefing control measure
20:40 VanessaE_ many servers are that way
20:40 VanessaE_ keeps people from just signing on, destroying shit, and signing off before they're caught
20:40 sfan5 I just read "decorating shit"
20:41 sfan5 I was confused
20:41 VanessaE_ haha
20:41 sfan5 like
20:41 sfan5 friendly griefers
20:41 sfan5 they log on, decorate stuff and leave
20:41 VanessaE_ decorating shit:  "polish a turd, it's still a turd!"
20:42 Daryl_ lol
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20:44 Daryl_ wow some 1 has alot of Textures on the surivial server XD
20:44 VanessaE_ yep
20:44 VanessaE_ Dreambuilder game
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20:45 VanessaE_ somewhere upwards of 8000 defined nodes/items I guess.  5028 texture files on the remote_media server.
20:45 VanessaE_ s/texture files/media files/
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20:46 VanessaE_ I wish there were an in-engine thing to print that total at startup.
20:48 Daryl_ WOW This place changed alot since i been around
20:49 iqualfragile Daryl_: which place?
20:49 iqualfragile how to fake serverlist entries?
20:49 iqualfragile (its for a good cause, i swear)
20:50 Daryl_ Oh... Vanessa servival server is what i was pointing too been a Long time since i played on this server
20:50 kaeza <_<
20:50 iqualfragile ah, ok
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20:55 casimir VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewt​opic.php?f=9&amp;t=8917#p140249
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21:04 VanessaE_ casimir: oh, that's handy
21:05 Daryl_ Finely logged in yay :)
21:05 blaise Megaf: I see you popped in on my server.. :)
21:06 Megaf blaise: yep
21:06 Megaf blaise: well, your server have lag because you have lots of mobs and mods
21:06 blaise yer
21:06 blaise I removed most of the mobs actually
21:07 blaise I do need to audit my mods though
21:07 Megaf try that, in minetest.conf change dedicated_server_step = 0.1 to 0.3
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21:08 blaise I had it set to 0.2 as per your recommendations
21:08 blaise Megaf: should I try 0.3 ?
21:08 Megaf blaise: before that, see the CPU use but minetestserver
21:10 blaise it seems to be bouncing between 24 to 30 % cpu
21:10 Megaf blaise: see use by core
21:10 blaise when no one is online it sits at about 2 or 5 %
21:10 Megaf top -H
21:10 blaise I only have one core
21:10 blaise and I'm looking at glances
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21:11 hisforever what is the ore Mses?
21:12 hisforever what is Mese sorry for tyops
21:12 iqualfragile blaise: what happened to your other cores?
21:12 iqualfragile hisforever: its the best ore in minetest
21:12 iqualfragile you can build stable and quick pickaxes out of it
21:12 iqualfragile or use the mod mesecons and create redstone-like things
21:13 blaise it's an Intel Pentium M centrino 1.73GHz (Dothan)
21:13 hisforever ty I was woundering if it was an ore in the real world
21:13 iqualfragile hisforever: no
21:13 blaise lol
21:13 hisforever ty just was courious
21:14 blaise I have more than one machine, unfortunetly minetest doesn't have the capability to distribute cpu load to multiple machines
21:14 blaise althought that would be a very nice feature
21:14 blaise :D
21:15 blaise I do run compile farms.. :)
21:20 blaise Megaf: ServerThread seems to be anywhere from 14 to 29 %
21:21 blaise Megaf: ConnectionSend and ConnectionReceive seems to both take up a static 7% each
21:21 blaise or, 0.7% each I mean
21:21 blaise all in all though, the machine mostly stays idle
21:22 blaise even with peoples on it
21:24 Megaf blaise: same on my server, but still laggy sometimes
21:29 blaise yeah..
21:29 blaise I'm not so sure there's anything we can do about that
21:30 blaise even with a plain vanilla server with no mods at all it seems to be laggy..
21:30 blaise if I was a better coder I would try and help optimise the code, but I'm not
21:40 proller "it was already fixed in freeminer"
21:42 iqualfragile proller: please explain exactly what was fixed
21:42 iqualfragile the only things i saw were patches to not execute things that should have been executed
21:43 proller huge lag was fixed, now lag just big
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21:55 Megaf Id like this to be on git. https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=4111
21:55 Megaf !seen lemonlake
21:55 MinetestBot Megaf: lemonlake was last seen at 2014-09-14 12:40:36 UTC on #minetest
21:57 john_minetest I like Minegelds
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22:53 VanessaE_ omg, it's OVER 9000!
22:53 VanessaE_ Dreambuilder:  There are 11414 registered items.
22:53 VanessaE_ O_O
22:58 Azelphur I'm playing with the minetest server, I'm wondering if the client and the server need the same mods installed?
22:58 Menche nope
22:58 Menche only on server
22:59 Azelphur sweet
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22:59 Menche mods on the client are actually ignored
22:59 kaeza Azelphur, the mods are server-side; the client only downloads whatever's needed (media files, node definitions, etc)
22:59 Azelphur kaeza: sweet :)
22:59 kaeza well, this thing is lagging <_<
23:00 * kaeza wants to kill his modem... yet again
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23:03 proller its not modem problem ;)
23:05 kaeza tell that to my 180s (yes, s) ping
23:06 Menche O.o
23:06 Menche 180s
23:07 exio4 kaeza, stop using my network!
23:08 * kaeza hugs exio4
23:08 * exio4 hugs back
23:08 VanessaE_ proller: he has problems retaining basic connectivity *without* minetest.
23:08 VanessaE_ please do not assume.
23:12 exio4 VanessaE_, fixed in freeminer
23:13 kaeza (C) 2013 proller
23:14 proller yes, fm/next have less problems on laggy/lossly connections
23:14 exio4 didn't know it could work nicely with 180s of lag
23:14 exio4 what does it use? a time machine?
23:14 proller ping!
23:15 proller smart packet prediction
23:15 exio4 oh, neat
23:15 exio4 didn't know it could see 3 minutes in the future
23:15 Menche sends data by copying the packets to a microSD card and mailing it to the destination
23:15 Menche faster
23:15 kaeza plol
23:17 exio4 the future is IPoIRC
23:17 Menche has option to use pidgeons instead of mail. cheaper but more packet loss.
23:18 VanessaE_ proller: explain how less-laggy minetest/freeminer affects kaeza's ability to maintain a connection to IRC, please.  Especially if Minetest et al. isn't even *running*
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23:19 exio4 freeminer can predict IRC packets
23:19 exio4 VanessaE_, it knows what you will think
23:19 proller VanessaE_, try to read all from start
23:19 VanessaE_ proller: no, YOU read all from the start please.
23:20 proller no, you
23:20 VanessaE_ I did.
23:20 VanessaE_ kaeza's problem has nothing to do with minetest at all. it's a connectivity issue because of a screwed up modem.
23:21 proller read upper
23:21 kaeza proller, my comment on lag was on the fact that I answered to Azel_pur's question, but by the time it went thru the pipe, Men_che already answered like 4 times, now, please, stfu
23:21 VanessaE_ [09-14 19:00] <kaeza> well, this thing is lagging <_<
23:21 VanessaE_ [09-14 19:00] * kaeza wants to kill his modem... yet again
23:21 VanessaE_ [09-14 19:04] <proller> its not modem problem ;)
23:21 VanessaE_ FAIL
23:22 exio4 kaeza, I am the only that can know that feelin <3
23:23 exio4 proller, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
23:23 exio4 actually
23:23 exio4 listen to that song, best song ever
23:23 exio4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
23:23 exio4 !title
23:23 MinetestBot exio4: Denis Leary - Asshole (Uncensored Version) - YouTube
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23:33 VanessaE_ bbl
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23:40 h4iku Megaf:
23:40 RumiaGloop butts
23:40 Megaf yes?
23:41 h4iku Megaf: how are you? I was playing and it has disconnected, and now, when I try to connect it says "Too Many Users"
23:41 h4iku Megaf: there're too many users really or it's another problem?
23:41 Megaf !server Megaf
23:41 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/9, 6/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 262ms
23:42 Menche admin set a max user limit?
23:42 Megaf you should be able to join, but let me increase the user limit
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23:42 h4iku ok
23:42 Megaf h4iku: try now
23:42 Megaf please
23:42 h4iku Megaf: I'm trying
23:42 Megaf !server Megaf
23:42 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/9, 6/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 262ms
23:43 h4iku !server Megaf
23:43 MinetestBot h4iku: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/9, 6/8 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 262ms
23:43 h4iku cool command
23:43 h4iku It's loading textures...
23:43 h4iku ;)
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