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00:13 EvergreenTree Can someone delete all the spam that has flooded the forums?
00:13 EvergreenTree I haven't seen this much spam botting in a long time
00:13 * EvergreenTree pokes VanessaE
00:13 VanessaE ow.
00:14 EvergreenTree Sorry, just had to get your attention
00:14 EvergreenTree :P
00:14 VanessaE got links to the spam?
00:14 VanessaE I don't read the forums regularly anymore
00:14 EvergreenTree just look at general discussion
00:14 EvergreenTree tons of it
00:14 EvergreenTree well, mostly by one person
00:14 EvergreenTree "zandra"
00:15 EvergreenTree there are also a few by "dfzxdgzd"
00:15 VanessaE working on it...
00:15 EvergreenTree Thank you.
00:15 EvergreenTree dfzxdgzd's spam has been up for quite a while now
00:15 EvergreenTree not sure how other moderators missed it
00:21 VanessaE ok, any others?
00:21 EvergreenTree nope
00:21 EvergreenTree Thanks
00:21 EvergreenTree :-)
00:22 VanessaE no prob.
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00:37 LinuxGuy2020 I just got a matching pair of 22" monitors and I stretched the minetest window accross the two and the game "camera" seems distorted on the sides of the screen like its rendering for single screen or something. Are there any tweaks or settings to help it look a bit better when rotating and moving around?
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01:12 h4iku Anyone knows Megaf, the admin of megaf.minetest.info?
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01:15 Wings Aww
01:15 Wings i went to th wrong one
01:15 Wings The*
01:15 Wings Well, bye
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01:36 luizrpgluiz hi
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01:46 hmmmm LinuxGuy2020, you might want to increase the FOV using the 'fov' config setting
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02:07 Vazon how do you check if a player has a priv???
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02:39 blaise Vazon: /privs <name>
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02:40 Vazon blaise: xD i ment threw lua
02:50 Miner_48er minetest.check_player_privs
02:50 Miner_48er Vazon ^
02:52 Vazon Miner_48er: thanks
03:13 LinuxGuy2020 hmmmm: I looked through the man page and didnt see any reference to the fov setting or default value. Where can I find the default or see all config options available?
03:14 hmmmm LinuxGuy2020:  In minetest.conf.example
03:14 LinuxGuy2020 hmmmm: perfect thank you
03:14 hmmmm np
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08:09 Megaf VanessaE: well, I let my server resting overnight and still at 100%
08:09 Megaf Lua controller or minetest itself should have a way to self protect itself
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08:10 Megaf Ok, I think it actually shuted down
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08:28 Megaf so, is this a bug on pipeworks or on built in item? http://paste.debian.net/119842/
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09:12 Megaf Hi
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10:22 sfan5 hello everyone
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10:26 Megaf Hey sfan5
10:26 Megaf how are things?
10:27 sfan5 good
10:27 sfan5 except that rsyslogd on servers.minetest.net just committed suicide
10:30 Megaf lol, that cant be good
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11:18 sfan5 john_minetest: ask iqualfragile, he'd done work on thgat
11:18 sfan5 that*
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12:00 meldrian Hellooo
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12:48 Megaf and Im still looking for a skin mod that works
12:49 Megaf those shell scripts wont work on my server
12:50 Megaf hm
12:50 Megaf Thats the problem
12:50 Megaf is a headless server, no graphical stuff
12:51 Megaf john_minetest: can you tell me a server that is using that mod so I can see it?
12:53 Megaf well, I have to go
12:53 Megaf thanks john_minetest, bye all
13:14 JTE_ I like that one. :3
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13:18 sfan5 john_minetest: ask, not look at his repos
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13:25 * sfan5 curls up to john_minetest's lap
13:26 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-<
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13:30 * sfan5 noms the fish
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13:47 jp_ when you create several pull requests on a file, does they will be auto-placed by following lines, or each pull requests can overwrite the previous merged ?
13:49 jp_ damn
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14:23 CraigyDavi Anyone know why this doesn't work? https://gist.github.com/CraigyDavi/96eb44613db9dcfe589f It comes up with the error `register_stair_and_slab` is a nil value.
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14:25 sfan5 CraigyDavi: remove the "stairs = {}"
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14:25 sfan5 also you need to depend on the stairs mod
14:26 sfan5 and replace "if minetest.get_modpath("stairs") then" with "if stairs then"
14:26 sfan5 CraigyDavi: what do you think "stairs = {}" does?
14:27 CraigyDavi Thanks sfan5, have sorted it out now
14:28 sfan5 CraigyDavi: what did you think "stairs = {}" does?
14:28 CraigyDavi Not sure, it was there in the original mod and I've seen other mods do it too, to be honest I have no idea.
14:28 sfan5 I've seen other mods do it too
14:28 sfan5 o.O
14:29 sfan5 stairs = {} sets the global variable 'stairs' to an empty table
14:29 sfan5 so it practically destroys the functionality of the stairs mod
14:29 sfan5 for that mod and all mods that load after it
14:30 CraigyDavi Hmm that is silly
14:30 sfan5 in which mods did you see that?
14:31 CraigyDavi Don't know, I'll try find one
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15:50 realtinymonster Hi!
15:51 realtinymonster did you guys know that I hate NVIDIA for making broken drivers?
15:52 sfan5 no
15:53 realtinymonster well, I do
15:53 realtinymonster I spent all day yesterday trying to get drivers for my graphics cards so I could play minetest
15:54 sfan5 which distro?
15:54 realtinymonster and I found several, but none of them worked...
15:54 realtinymonster heh
15:54 sfan5 windows?
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15:55 realtinymonster Windows Vista SP2 (ick...)
15:55 sfan5 how about you use the official driver?
15:55 realtinymonster I di
15:55 realtinymonster d
15:55 sfan5 the correct one?
15:55 realtinymonster I tried all the versions of the specific driver since '06
15:56 realtinymonster it fails a third way through the install
15:58 * PenguinDad hands realtinymonster an archlinux iso
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15:59 sfan5 ^
16:00 realtinymonster :/
16:00 realtinymonster Linux doesn't have 3 things that I need
16:01 realtinymonster 1. A good screen recorder
16:01 realtinymonster 2. Support by game companies
16:02 sfan5 1. recordmydesktop or just use raw ffmpeg
16:02 sfan5 2. steam?
16:02 Jordach realtinymonster, valvE
16:02 realtinymonster really?
16:02 Jordach (i honestly forgot the spelling)
16:02 realtinymonster just wow
16:03 realtinymonster recordmydesktop is slooooow
16:03 PenguinDad realtinymonster: have you tried ssr?
16:03 sfan5 then use raw ffmpeg
16:03 realtinymonster ssr?
16:03 Jordach there are several games on my Steam Lib that'll play on SteamOS
16:03 realtinymonster ^ PenguinDad
16:04 PenguinDad realtinymonster: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ https://github.com/MaartenBaert/ssr
16:05 realtinymonster hmm
16:06 realtinymonster looks promising
16:06 sfan5 ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -s <screen size> -i + -v:c libx264 -v:a copy -crf 0 -preset ultrafast record.nut; ffmpeg -i record.nut -c:v libx264 -crf 21 -tune film -c:a libfdk_aac -b:a 256k -movflags +faststart out.mp4; rm record.nut
16:06 sfan5 there yo have your recording solution
16:06 realtinymonster can you have ffmpeg grab windows?
16:06 sfan5 not directly
16:06 sfan5 but you can make it grab the area for a window
16:06 sfan5 want a script?
16:06 realtinymonster yeah, would be nice :D
16:07 realtinymonster I heard that archlinux doesn't use RPM or DEB, but something different... True?
16:09 sfan5 yes
16:09 realtinymonster what does it use?
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16:10 sfan5 pkg.tar.xz
16:10 realtinymonster interesting...
16:14 realtinymonster now you guys are making me wish I had a space CD for archlinux...
16:14 realtinymonster :P
16:19 sfan5 realtinymonster: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/8b80bf332ab9066eb3e2
16:19 sfan5 records sound too
16:19 sfan5 the sound of your mic by default
16:19 realtinymonster nice
16:20 sfan5 but can record what you hear too if you config the source in pavucontrol
16:20 realtinymonster oh ok
16:20 realtinymonster thanks sir :D
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16:50 hisforever Hi everybodty I need some clay do I make clay with water and dirt?
16:52 away you make clay by digging clay
16:52 jp_ http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Clay
16:52 hisforever ty jp
17:01 Xack away: lol
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17:05 Krock 'ello peopel
17:05 sfan5 !wiki Clay
17:05 MinetestBot "Clay can be found on sand beaches (underwater)." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Clay
17:05 Krock omg. sand is blue
17:06 Krock omg water is blue. sky too. wow. amaze. such blue.
17:06 sfan5 I wonder why
17:06 Krock I wonder how, looging into the blue blue sky..
17:06 Krock !g Lemon Tree
17:06 MinetestBot Krock: http://www.lemontree.com/
17:07 Krock !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0vs1fhhNI
17:07 MinetestBot Krock: Lemon Tree - Fools Garden - YouTube
17:13 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:14 Krock hi rubenwardy
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17:15 * rubenwardy is installing ruby on rails
17:15 * Krock wonders why rubenwardy is doing that
17:16 * rubenwardy wants to learn how to use ruby on rails
17:16 * PenguinDad hugs rubenwardy
17:16 * Krock gives rubenwardy brainf**k
17:16 rubenwardy lol
17:18 PenguinDad Krock: s/**/??/ :P
17:19 Krock PenguinDad: "brainf".(censored?'?':'u').(censored?'?':'c')."k"
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17:20 PenguinDad s/??/../ now it's correct :/
17:20 Krock wut?
17:20 Krock pseudocode, you know.
17:21 PenguinDad Krock: regexes
17:22 sfan5 we did that too, john_minetest
17:22 PenguinDad john_minetest: Did anyone drop the bass? ;D
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17:23 Krock john_minetest, I also could learn some simple guitar accords
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17:29 PenguinDad lol
17:29 PenguinDad lol
17:30 Krock lol-
17:30 Krock lol
17:30 PenguinDad I summon entropy!
17:33 * Krock tells the people about using his minetest server address + port {convertDecfromHex(F07A)}
17:33 PenguinDad :>
17:33 * Krock wonders which mods heshould test today
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17:39 Krock john_minetest, me too. about 900 if I want them all
17:39 sfan5 !c int("f07a", 16)
17:39 MinetestBot 61562
17:40 sfan5 ‬!up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:40 Krock sfan5, eww. head-calculating!
17:40 sfan5 ‬!up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:40 sfan5 MinetestBot!
17:40 MinetestBot sfan5!
17:40 Krock sfan5, 1st letter is a square
17:41 sfan5 what?
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17:41 sfan5 !up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:41 MinetestBot minetest.ntdll.net:61562 is up (83ms)
17:41 sfan5 o.O
17:41 Krock john_minetest, well, it's a testing server, so no_guests and areas will be not needed. already got unified_inventory and WE
17:41 Krock uuuh. 83ms
17:42 Krock so it must be a good server :P
17:44 Krock srsly? do I really need no_guests on this testing server?
17:44 sfan5 you only need no_guests if you have it announced on the list
17:44 sfan5 !up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:44 MinetestBot minetest.ntdll.net:61562 is up (188ms)
17:45 Krock sfan5, it's announced?
17:45 sfan5 no
17:45 sfan5 !server port:61562
17:45 MinetestBot sfan5:  | 62.203.234.241:61562 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 34ms
17:45 sfan5 uh
17:45 sfan5 it is
17:45 sfan5 apparently
17:45 Krock fixed.
17:45 sfan5 !server port:61562
17:45 MinetestBot sfan5:  | 62.203.234.241:61562 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 34ms
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17:46 sfan5 did you do /set -n server_announce 0
17:46 Krock un-checked "Öffentlich"
17:46 sfan5 oh
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18:07 blaise sfan5: Hello, are you active?
18:07 sfan5 blaise: yes
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18:12 blaise sfan5: I've recently noticed with the addition of rails on my server that the android version has a problem with the rail textures.. the normal rail (from minetest), the power rail, and the break rail (from carts mod) all seem to stretch infinitly into the sky..
18:13 blaise sfan5: I'm not sure if you're the person to talk to about this, but I thought it was worth atleast speaking to you about..
18:14 rubenwardy Can I get a raw version of http://servers.minetest.net/ without the Javascript?
18:14 blaise mind you the functionality of these rails arn't compromised, just the aesthetics..
18:15 blaise rubenwardy: I never told noscript to allow the javascript and I have no problem viewing it
18:15 rubenwardy It doesn't load for me
18:15 rubenwardy (with JS disabled
18:15 rubenwardy )
18:15 Krock rubenwardy, http://servers.minetest.net/list
18:17 Krock damn, ninja'd
18:17 Krock I wanted to post the same date
18:17 rubenwardy http://servers.minetest.net/list is okay
18:28 Krock I really start wonder if there's a difference in fps when I enable fancy trees and better lightening
18:31 blaise sfan5: I suppose it should be noted that I'm using it on a Motorola Atrix HD (MB886) http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_hd_mb886-4867.php
18:35 Megaf VanessaE: You there?
18:37 Krock blaise, "Non-removable Li-Ion 1780 mAh battery"
18:37 Krock you can't even buy a new one o.o
18:41 PenguinDad Krock: there's quite a big difference between enabling and disabling fancy trees
18:41 * Krock slabs PenguinDad width https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=153538#p153538
18:42 * PenguinDad gooses
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18:54 Krock there are 4 mod(at least) which contain timber features.
18:54 Krock +s
18:54 Megaf hows that done?
18:54 Megaf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=152694&amp;sid=0f48796e9c6f2e5f9d0e8777f2609c66#p152694
18:54 Megaf those mountains with snow
18:55 Krock looks cold
18:55 Krock I guess a simple height param has been added. within 2 minutes, I could add the same
18:56 Megaf also, I like the command block to be able to grant privs
18:56 Megaf it does nothing when I put the command grant
18:58 VanessaE Megaf: meh, plants_lib can do that too ;)
18:59 VanessaE though not as good as shown there because that image shows biome blending also.  there's nothing to it really, a height variable like krock said
18:59 VanessaE if > that value + random, add snow to the landscape
18:59 Krock simply reduce temperature param by height
18:59 VanessaE precisely.
19:00 VanessaE Megaf: mind you paramat writes custom mapgens so he can code that sort of thing right into the map
19:00 VanessaE so it's not like he's evaluating the base map and adding stuff to it
19:01 Megaf VanessaE: also, any idea why the commander from mesecons wont grant privs?
19:02 VanessaE Megaf: security reasons.
19:03 VanessaE it operates under the username of whoever placed it
19:03 VanessaE and by extension, with their level of privs, but it has access controls, as I recall, to prevent doing too much
19:04 Megaf VanessaE: well, a command block placed by me cant grant privs
19:04 VanessaE good. :)
19:04 VanessaE it shouldn't be able to
19:04 sfan5 blaise: speak to sapier, he does the android version
19:04 Krock Megaf, http://imgur.com/sw88k8w
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19:11 blaise sfan5: ty
19:11 blaise the trick is catching sapier online
19:11 blaise lmao
19:12 blaise or I guess I could write him on the forum
19:12 sfan5 yes you could
19:13 Megaf VanessaE: and how can I disable that security feature?
19:14 Megaf Im reading the code at the moment but Im not having much luck
19:15 Megaf lol
19:16 VanessaE Megaf: I don't know, nor would I divulge how even if I did. :P
19:17 PenguinDad plol
19:17 VanessaE because next thing you know, someone on your server will end up with high-level privs that they should not have.
19:17 Megaf well, if the command block can only use privs the person who placed ti have, and its uncraftable, I see no problem in it being able to use "privs"
19:18 VanessaE and you'll be blaming me, or the mod, or the engine.
19:26 PenguinDad http://imgur.com/gallery/EoIvS xD
19:26 sfan5 !title
19:26 MinetestBot sfan5: If Real Life Was Like A Video Game - Imgur
19:27 sfan5 PenguinDad: /r/outside
19:28 PenguinDad reddit *jumps out the window*
19:29 sfan5 reddit is nice
19:29 sfan5 (ignoring the recent shadowbanning incident in /r/gaming)
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19:55 Megaf man, my internet is terrible here
19:55 Megaf its 3G and it doesnt work
19:55 Megaf I wish there was a way to improve it, the signal is full
19:56 VanessaE look for noise sources.
19:56 Megaf VanessaE: its bad 24h/day
19:56 Megaf its my localization
19:56 VanessaE you can have 10x as much signal as you need but if there's too much noise near you the signal will be trashed.
19:57 VanessaE change channels then
19:57 VanessaE (literally)
19:57 VanessaE if you're down on channel 3, try 6 or 11 I think are the other center frequencies
19:59 Megaf VanessaE: channel? but its 3G
20:00 VanessaE oh 3g
20:00 VanessaE sorry
20:00 VanessaE thought wifi for some reason
20:01 Megaf well, Im tethering from my phone to my laptop using wifi
20:01 Megaf but is less than 50 cm away
20:01 VanessaE look for noise sources that affect the Wifi then
20:01 VanessaE any time you have radio involved, you have to consider noise, not just signal level
20:02 VanessaE also consider that cell companies hate when you tether :)
20:04 Megaf I will try later on using a usb cable to theter
20:05 Megaf VanessaE: the weird thing is, one month ago I was in another part of the city and I could get 1MB/s or more, everytime, could watch HD videos on youtube and skype video with no problem or buffer at all
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20:05 Megaf then I moved and now the 3G is this rubbish
20:06 VanessaE exactly
20:06 VanessaE you've got too much noise in your area
20:06 VanessaE or too many other people in the area using 3G
20:06 VanessaE too much traffic in that band
20:06 Megaf up to 230 KB/s but really unstable, skype I can do voice only and lots of cuts and bad quality
20:06 Megaf youtube, only downloading the videos, and at 480p
20:07 Megaf I have done some research and people suggest to try other companies, problem is, this one Im using now, is the only ulimited one
20:07 Megaf its three.ie
20:07 Megaf pre paid, 20 euros/month
20:23 Megaf can anyone explain me very briefly, xpanes?
20:23 Megaf please
20:24 VanessaE flat glass panels or bars that connect and route horizontally like fences.
20:24 VanessaE situated in the middle of a node.
20:25 VanessaE they can form flat walls and connect together.
20:25 VanessaE I believe there are also bars available in that mod that do the same thing
20:25 VanessaE (poorly when I last looked)(
20:26 VanessaE oh, I already said that.  meh.
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20:37 Megaf very good VanessaE, thanks
20:38 Megaf my server is running a game based on a old version of minetest_game
20:38 Megaf I updated it and for my surprise lots of new things emerged
20:38 Megaf and things that I used to have on my previous server are now default
20:39 Megaf things like, boats, sethome and so on
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20:40 VanessaE There, I made a proper release of that angled_walls mod I made.  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=10091
20:40 VanessaE didn't want it to be forgotten.
20:41 Megaf yep, ive seen that
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21:34 blaise !server MidnightSystems
21:34 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 338ms
21:34 blaise hrmmm
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21:43 blaise john_minetest: are you slow? it's a minetest server, not a web server
21:43 blaise is this #apache?
21:43 * blaise shakes his head
21:45 blaise maybe if the URI minetest://midnightsystems.net:30000/ you could click on that
21:45 blaise damn clickaholics
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21:50 shadowzone Hi, how is everybody?
21:50 shadowzone Hi.
21:52 OldCoder Yo
21:52 OldCoder Well, as you pointed out, website needs to be redone
21:53 OldCoder Out of date but this will be fixed
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21:59 blaise john_minetest: http://midnightsystems.net/
22:00 blaise john_minetest: there, feel better?
22:00 blaise john_minetest: I had no intentions of bringing that online till I had some mod for minetest that some statistical junky made to generate nice minetest statistics in html5
22:00 blaise but I'll toss that up there just for you
22:04 kahrl statistical junky? does this count: http://imgur.com/TlQN3cB
22:06 blaise that's just a line graph
22:06 VanessaE is this better?  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
22:06 VanessaE ;-)
22:06 blaise I mean statistic totals, users, entities, mobs, blocks generated, blocks dug, blocks placed
22:06 kahrl john_minetest: https://gist.github.com/kahrl/9135ee4a92693dc2c051
22:06 blaise and user totals too
22:07 VanessaE kahrl: wow, did it the hard way eh?
22:07 kahrl yep
22:07 blaise lol
22:08 blaise ah, new kernel is out
22:11 blaise wow
22:11 blaise do people just not use the release version of minetest or something
22:11 blaise I turned on strict version checking and there's only been two people today that had the release version of minetest-0.4.10
22:19 Megaf Ok, I added Zeg9s skins, but I see nothing new on unified inventory
22:19 blaise lmao
22:19 blaise I recently pulled the u_skins and saw changes via git, but didn't notice any changesd
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22:20 blaise Megaf: is zeg9's skins the same as u_skins ?
22:20 Megaf blaise: I dont know, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4147
22:22 Megaf hm, 19:17:53: ERROR[main]: mod "skins" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "inventory_plus"
22:22 blaise yeah
22:22 blaise it doesn't support unified inventory
22:22 blaise Depends also on Inventory++ (recommended), inventory_plus or mod menu
22:23 blaise Megaf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=8816
22:23 blaise ^^^^ - u_skins
22:24 blaise I had originally tried zeg9's and had to switch..
22:24 Megaf so, u_skins is actually better
22:24 VanessaE I just use player_textures.
22:25 VanessaE it's easy to use.
22:25 Megaf blaise: do I have to have skins_db?
22:25 Megaf skinsdb
22:26 blaise eh, honestly I've never gotten it to work
22:26 blaise the skins I use are what came with it
22:26 blaise as far as the skinsdb scripts go.. I couldn't find a version of python that would work with them
22:26 blaise they added a few new default skins not too long ago..
22:27 blaise other than that I wouldn't have seen any more because I can't use the skinsdb scripts
22:27 blaise lol
22:27 blaise other than that it works great!
22:27 blaise :)
22:28 Megaf blaise: I cant used them either, never got them to work
22:28 blaise I very much like u_skins
22:29 Megaf !server Megaf
22:29 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/8, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 4235ms
22:29 blaise I just wish the scripts worked to pull from the skinsdb
22:29 blaise not a big deal though
22:29 Megaf I have just added uskins to my server
22:29 Megaf dat ping
22:29 blaise it's a fairly good sized list of skins
22:29 blaise !server Midnight
22:29 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 786ms
22:30 Megaf john_minetest: thats a nice drawing
22:30 blaise yeah, we're reaching internet rush hour
22:30 blaise lmao
22:31 Megaf wacom?
22:31 Megaf we have a bamboo pen here
22:33 Megaf lol, ivisibility skin
22:33 Megaf john_minetest: yep, I like them
22:33 blaise when I went to space camp some 20 years ago I got one of those space pens, for when I would be in a zero atmosphere zero gravity environment..
22:33 Megaf mine isnt touch =/
22:33 blaise never got to use it.. it's still in the box.
22:34 Megaf blaise: wel, Russians will just use a pen...
22:34 Megaf pencil*
22:34 blaise indeed,
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23:17 Bob___ Hey
23:17 Bob___ so
23:17 Bob___ this work with 256 mb ram?
23:17 VanessaE barely so.
23:18 Bob___ Oh
23:18 VanessaE depends on how complex of a subgam you're playing
23:18 Bob___ will 512mb work?
23:18 VanessaE subgame*
23:18 VanessaE 512 should work fine
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23:18 Bob___ do you support XP still?
23:19 Bob___ I can't upgrade... soooo I am interested in Minetest someone told me you guys aim to make it less requirements
23:19 VanessaE yes XP is supported as far as I know
23:19 VanessaE upgrade to Linux instead ;)
23:20 Bob___ I heard of linux but... to be honest i'm scared it won't be like windows xp D:
23:20 VanessaE it's not like windows.  but it's not hard to learn.  give it a try sometime in a virtual machine.
23:20 VanessaE anyways yeah Minetest runs in XP
23:21 Bob___ Okay
23:21 Bob___ and if i wanted to host server how much requirements ?
23:21 VanessaE pretty low
23:22 VanessaE few hundred megs, not much CPU if you don't run a complex game
23:22 Bob___ oo Thanks
23:22 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
23:22 Bob___ you been a great help :)
23:22 VanessaE this is 8 servers.
23:22 Bob___ No swap even used!
23:22 VanessaE the processor there is a dual-core i3 3.4 GHz.
23:22 VanessaE correct.  and only about 3GB of RAM spread across those 8 servers.
23:23 VanessaE 2 of them are complex games - Dreambuilder
23:23 VanessaE some are simple, like Nostalgia
23:23 Bob___ is Dreambuilder like a city building game?
23:23 VanessaE kinda-sorta
23:23 Bob___ Ah
23:23 VanessaE it's meant to be a "just build" sorta game
23:23 Bob___ may join it
23:23 VanessaE know what I mean?
23:23 Megaf VanessaE: are you playing them in VMs?
23:24 Bob___ yeah
23:24 VanessaE Megaf: no.
23:27 Bob___ VanessaE do you manage Dreambuilder?
23:27 VanessaE yep
23:28 VanessaE I only mentioned it here because it uses a lot of RAM
23:28 VanessaE (I recommend a couple of gigs if you play it singleplayer, 512 ought to be more than enough for a server)
23:28 troller 3GB for 0 players ;)
23:28 VanessaE troller: look at the stats and shut up.
23:28 VanessaE "Survival" on those stats is a Dreambuilder server.
23:29 troller ok, all your servers have 1 avg player online
23:29 Bob___ Is there like a portable version...?
23:29 VanessaE troller: even when I was peaking 40, the RAM usage was the same.
23:29 VanessaE Bob___: there is an Android version which is still experimental.
23:29 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9389
23:30 Bob___ What i meant was is there a version that you can put on a thumb drive without install
23:30 VanessaE OH
23:30 VanessaE yeah, that's how Windows versions are done anyway
23:30 VanessaE they're "run in place"
23:30 VanessaE just unzip it to the thumbdrive and play it from there
23:31 Bob___ Okay thanks sooo much :)
23:31 VanessaE but remember, a thumbdrive is not meant for super-fast access and they do wear out after a while
23:31 Bob___ Oh
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