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Batman |
Hi. Just wondering if on_walk is possible. I want to make a block change when someone stands or walks on it |
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VanessaE |
not at present. but you could run an ABM with your node as the target |
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VanessaE |
have it check for a player above the target and then act on that |
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VanessaE |
but that's slow |
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paramat |
Batman see the code here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6773 |
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Cylus |
Is there an efficient method of adding semi-randomized structures (similar to the dungeons) to the game, or would that need to be completely coded from scratch in Lua? |
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VanessaE |
I was about to suggest an on_globalstep next :P |
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Batman |
Vanessa I remember you suggesting on_walk last year |
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Batman |
Thought it might have happened |
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Batman |
thanks for the help |
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VanessaE |
Batman: I don't recall doing so. such a function would be useful though. |
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Batman |
Sorry I just looked it up. It was Peacock that suggested it. irc log #minetest 203-11-24 |
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Batman |
2013 |
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Batman |
Thanks for your help. I think I got what I need. Keep up the awesome work! |
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paramat |
Cylus see my 'catacomb' mod |
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Cylus |
Alright, I'll do that. Thanks paramat! |
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paramat |
new mod =D https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10072 |
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Cylus |
Why so you use different stair nodes for different stair facings? |
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Cylus |
That's quite a cave in the second picture. I'm not sure what I'm looking at in the first. |
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paramat |
Yes because the voxelmanip can set rotation of a node but that needs a lot more processing, i think 4 nodes is faster |
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Cylus |
Ah, I see. I had no idea. |
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paramat |
Cylus, this recent commit makes it easier to set a few special nodes, including rotation https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f3eefeb7948b8b8d1a98f2f89baa39abc807f72d |
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Cylus |
This seems really complex. I can't really tell what the code is saying at all. I think I might put my idea on hold for the time being. |
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Cylus |
Also, while flying through the ground in my test world looking for catacombs, I ran into a cat! But then the lava poured in and covered it. |
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Cylus |
I'm debating about keeping the coordinates to locate it in my actual world (I always use the same seed), but I think that might be cheating. |
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paramat |
you're lucky, nyancats are super rare |
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paramat |
there are 4 spawner nodes that trigger 4 ABMs that each create a stair/corridor plus a chamber at the end, using a voxelmanip |
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Cylus |
Yeah, but finding them in worlds that you have fly in makes it maybe too easy to find them. |
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Cylus |
I'll have to look into voxelmanip. I haven't even heard of it. |
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Cylus |
Is it new? |
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paramat |
maybe a year? there's a good topic on it in the 'news' subforum, with examples and links |
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Cylus |
Okay, sweet. Thanks! |
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jordan4ibanez |
Say I have a table table = {{"1"},{"2"},{"3"},{"4"},{"5"}} |
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jordan4ibanez |
I can do for i = 1,5 do print(table[i]) end |
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jordan4ibanez |
but when I try i = 5,1 do print(table[i]) end it goes no where |
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jordan4ibanez |
what do |
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jordan4ibanez |
Something rather than using for i = -5,-1 do i = math.abs(i) print(table[i]) end |
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kahrl |
jordan4ibanez: for i = 5,1,-1 |
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jordan4ibanez |
Thank you |
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jordan4ibanez |
Result http://youtu.be/XnStjXu5fsk |
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oio_ |
where can i report aproblem |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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Cylus |
I give up. Either these catacombs are not spawning, or they are very rare. |
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blaise |
this mod looks awesome. https://gitlab.com/CiaranG/railcarts/tree/2efd6cbd5520386e6a0b2759fbe151c61b5b3a21 |
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blaise |
I wish it worked with vanilla minetest |
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blaise |
:\ |
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PenguinDad |
http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/14/q3/e128/Pic-5.jpg xD |
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PenguinDad |
yet another msvc fuck up https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1607 |
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nman3600 |
Hey john_minetest and PenguinDad |
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PenguinDad |
hi nman3600 et john_minetest |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, mhm? MSVC under linux? |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: huh? |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, commit #2 |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: what does this have to do with msvc and linux? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f3eefeb7948b8b8d1a98f2f89baa39abc807f72d |
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Krock |
<PenguinDad>yet another msvc fuck |
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Krock |
same question. |
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* PenguinDad |
is confuzzed |
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* Krock |
even more |
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T4im |
hm.. yea i've been getting those latly as well.. usually after the public server list didn't load correctly |
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* Krock |
has other problems |
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* PenguinDad |
has other other problems |
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Krock |
<3 bread + chocolate |
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nman3600 |
<3 Krock's geniousity |
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nman3600 |
Fail |
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Krock |
*kills chrome.exe with highest CPU load* |
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Krock |
oops, everything closed.. |
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nman3600 |
xD |
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PenguinDad |
> Google Chrome |
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Krock |
<PenguinDad>> Google Chrome |
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Krock |
who said google chrome? |
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Krock |
it could be a renamed tetris game |
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PenguinDad |
Then you either have a crappy cpu or the tetris game is badly coded |
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T4im |
the '.exe' kind of gives the problem away |
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T4im |
wine is simply adding too much overhead around it |
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T4im |
:P |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, no. it's because chromium has a "main" process. all other processes depend on it. it it gets closed, all other do the same. |
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Krock |
T4im, that's your view. I love .exe |
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* PenguinDad |
slaps Krock with Executable and Linkable Format |
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T4im |
a view from outside plato's cave ;) |
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* Krock |
throws .exe and .url and .internetexploreristhebesteverserousy at PenguinDad |
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SaltyDog001 |
Greetings, can anyone help with a linux program to automatically restart minetest server if it crashes. Have tried a few scripts from Google search but I'm n00b at linux and not working. |
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T4im |
runit provides service supervision |
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T4im |
http://smarden.org/runit/ |
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* PenguinDad |
SIGILL |
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* Krock |
would like to help but he doesn't know anything about linux |
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T4im |
or system administration in general :p |
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Krock |
PenguinDad, you're ill? sig ill? |
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T4im |
i think i meant SIGKILL |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: Illegal instruction |
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SaltyDog001 |
Thanks I will look into that. Server goes down and I don't get to it for serveral hours. |
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T4im |
oh, indeed.. never seen sigill before O_o |
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T4im |
SaltyDog001: you're welcome |
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T4im |
it will generally restart processes that die for any reason |
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T4im |
provided you tell it you want it started |
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T4im |
:) |
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SaltyDog001 |
Sounds like what I need. Hopefully I can figure it out :) |
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T4im |
it will also enforce the other direction.. stop it, with signal escalation if necessary, if the prozess freezes for some reason |
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SaltyDog001 |
nice |
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* Jordach |
throws Firefox at Krock |
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* PenguinDad |
throws Waterfox at Jordach |
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* Krock |
slaps Jordach with an fire extinguisher |
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SaltyDog001 |
ouch |
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SaltyDog001 |
ok thanks again :) |
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T4im |
don't mention it :) |
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T4im |
i think though, that these supervision tools only restart if theres reason to assume it stays up :P |
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T4im |
like if multiple crashs occur after each other in a short period, it wont keep trying |
| 13:56 |
T4im |
which might be generally healthy for the system or the data |
| 13:56 |
T4im |
to.. not push it |
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T4im |
hehe |
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T4im |
actually no |
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T4im |
&& will only if the exist value shows no signs of trouble ;) |
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T4im |
or is minetest returning unconventionally? |
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PenguinDad |
john_minetest: s/&&/;/ |
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T4im |
|| |
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T4im |
that way it wont restart if you do a planned shutdown |
| 14:01 |
T4im |
but its still a hack.. just use supervision :P they simple take a bashscript in which you call the process.. thats all they need (provided the process runs in foreground) |
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T4im |
you end up with even less bash than your 'quick hack' ;) |
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PenguinDad |
Zeg9 had a server? o_O |
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Jordach |
oh for fuck sakes |
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Jordach |
enter + pwdfield in mainmenu gives 100% rate access violations |
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VanessaE |
go bitch about it in -dev then |
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VanessaE |
and keep bitching until someone fixes it |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, it's related to formspec fixes with the chat doing the same |
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VanessaE |
stupid bugs like that should not be allowed to stand |
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VanessaE |
so? |
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VanessaE |
get over in -dev and raise hell |
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Krock |
Jordach, I'm not getting a 100% rate |
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VanessaE |
I get no crashes at all, but I run Linux, so it's probably caused by the compiler that was used to create your build |
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kahrl |
looks like a fun bug |
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Jordach |
Krock, extremely often with MSVC 64 BM |
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kahrl |
for me it crashes whenever I'm not running it under gdb |
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T4im |
a heisenbug then |
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Jordach |
Schrödinger's Bug in this case |
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Jordach |
(actually for how random it is, kinda a decent RNG) |
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sfan5 |
:F |
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sfan5 |
:D * |
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kahrl |
oh, wait, is this actually #1512? |
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kahrl |
I finally got a backtrace in gdb and it looks the same |
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VanessaE |
might be. |
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VanessaE |
interesting that this guy gets the bug under Arch though |
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VanessaE |
ok strike that.. am I the only linux user who *doesn't* get that particular crash? ;) |
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jojoa1997 |
VanessaE i dont get it either |
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jojoa1997 |
;) |
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jojoa1997 |
Cause I have not used Ubuntu in forever |
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jojoa1997 |
VMs to test yes but actual personal use no |
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VanessaE |
I use Xubuntu... |
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* sfan5 |
uses Arch |
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* Krock |
uses Win5.1 |
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PenguinDad |
VanessaE: I don't get it either |
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davexunit |
hello all. is there a way to configure the search path for games via an environment variable? |
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davexunit |
rather than setting the path at compile time. |
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VanessaE |
davexunit: none that I've seen, and I don't think such will be supported. why do you need this? |
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sfan5 |
oh look, someone from the FSF |
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sfan5 |
distro package maintainer? |
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davexunit |
VanessaE: I am one of the GNU Guix developers, a new package manager and distribution of the GNU system. we build on Nix, you may have heard of that. |
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sfan5 |
yay, guessed right |
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VanessaE |
not familiar with Nix, no. |
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davexunit |
packages are built and maintained quite differently than you'd expect in debian. |
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PenguinDad |
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=msi_x99_fail lol |
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davexunit |
there's no /usr/share/minetest/games to write to. The packages for minetest and minetest_game are built and installed in isolation. |
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VanessaE |
games are also installed to $HOME/.minetest/games .... |
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davexunit |
when a user installs the packages, they are unioned together via symlinks in the user's "profile". |
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sfan5 |
interesting concept |
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davexunit |
without getting too much into it, the path to the "minimal" game is different than the path to "minetest_game" |
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sfan5 |
different packages? |
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VanessaE |
minimal is not a game. |
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sfan5 |
not really |
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VanessaE |
do not separate it from the engine core |
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davexunit |
VanessaE: yes, it is packaged with the engine core. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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davexunit |
but the files are found in the system's games directory |
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sfan5 |
so you need multiple game search paths? |
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davexunit |
my point was that another package *cannot* write to this directory, it is immutable. |
| 15:33 |
davexunit |
sfan5: yeah, or some other solution. |
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davexunit |
I'm exploring the possibilities. I have minetest core already packaged and running on guix. :) |
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sfan5 |
davexunit: possible solution: http://sprunge.us/MGcf |
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sfan5 |
just add paths there |
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davexunit |
sfan5: the problem is that at build time I shouldn't know about minetest_game. |
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davexunit |
I'd like to keep them decoupled. |
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sfan5 |
getenv("MINETEST_GAME_PATH") and strtok() might work |
| 15:36 |
davexunit |
sfan5: yes, that's what I think, too. |
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davexunit |
in guix we have a good system for manipulating search paths and providing the proper settings to users. |
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sfan5 |
btw: if you make any changes that might be generally useful send us a pull |
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davexunit |
sfan5: I'll work on a patch. |
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davexunit |
I will check for the presence of MINETEST_GAME_PATH, otherwise use the path that was compiled in. |
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sfan5 |
so the env. var. overrides the default paths? |
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davexunit |
yeah, only if defined, of course. |
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VanessaE |
davexunit: I suggest MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH |
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davexunit |
otherwise it looks in the sharepath |
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davexunit |
VanessaE: sounds good to me |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
since there are many subgames available, else it may be confused for minetest_game |
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davexunit |
whatever name makes it consistent |
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davexunit |
yeah, that makes sense. |
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davexunit |
I appreciate the help, VanessaE and sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
np |
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davexunit |
I'll come up with a patch and open a PR. |
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MinetestBot |
[Git] Sapier at GMX dot net -> minetest/minetest: Fix access to invalid data on reception of packet with size 0 944e79d http://git.io/zfXw1w (2014-09-06T17:42:34+02:00) |
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CraigyDavi` |
Anyone know if it's possible to only alias existing placed blocks of node1 -> node2 but still allow node1 to be placed without converting it? |
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T4im |
well, if all you want is to keep the functionality of node1, why not just drop node2 on dig? |
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CraigyDavi` |
But that would mean that when placing node1 afterwards they would also get node2 on drop |
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VanessaE |
what are you trying to accomplish, more specifically? |
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T4im |
well you could just alias them to node2 now, and give node2 a new on_place that swaps them with a node3 that mimiks node1.. but that will lead to anyone digging node2 to place it as node3 as well |
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T4im |
or on_construct* |
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jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I use Xubuntu the most on my VM |
| 15:57 |
CraigyDavi` |
Well darkage is an old mod so the "cobble" looks like bricks. I wanted to change the texture of the cobble node to actually look like cobble but then I realised it would affect existing buildings. Converting only the existing ones to bricklike nodes would keep the same look at they were before |
| 15:58 |
CraigyDavi` |
Then people who intentionally wanted to place a cobble looking node then they could. |
| 15:58 |
CraigyDavi` |
Or maybe I'll just have to make them put up with it :) |
| 15:58 |
Amaz |
Just make stone drop cobble, and convert the cobble to brick. |
| 15:58 |
jojoa1997 |
CraigyDavi` what mod is it? |
| 16:00 |
CraigyDavi` |
https://github.com/CraigyDavi/darkage |
| 16:00 |
jojoa1997 |
is it this mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3213 |
| 16:00 |
CraigyDavi` |
^^ |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
CraigyDavi`: better idea: update to current, use worldedit to transform all of those cobble structures to use stonebrick. |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
then just go with the normal cobble behavior. |
| 16:00 |
jojoa1997 |
or maybe use a new node |
| 16:00 |
jojoa1997 |
? |
| 16:00 |
VanessaE |
it'll take some time but in the long run it'll be easier |
| 16:01 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what about other poeple's worlds? |
| 16:01 |
CraigyDavi` |
Amaz, fair enough. Although that would cause the problem of there being no cobble |
| 16:01 |
T4im |
i dont think he means that for a single server, but the mod... and there using worldedit isnt possible with its license |
| 16:01 |
CraigyDavi` |
Well..I was rather hoping it could be done via the mod |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: tough shit? |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: or, use worldedit like I just said. if you transform cobble -> stonebrick when updating such an old world, the players won't notice anything was changed. |
| 16:02 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what if someone made a change in a mod that you use and when you updated it it messed everything up? |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
CraigyDavi`: it can be done but it'll be hacky |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: no one made a "change in a mod".. the game was updated many months ago. |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
as in, almost two years ago that texture was changed wasn't it? |
| 16:03 |
jojoa1997 |
no |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 16:03 |
CraigyDavi` |
Yes quite a long time ago |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
more than a year, for sure. |
| 16:03 |
jojoa1997 |
the cobble texture changed about a year ago |
| 16:03 |
T4im |
(i take it you made your own cobble, and are not talking about the default one..) why not create a new 'real cobble looking node', take away the craftrecipe for the old one and convert all of the old ones on_place to the new one |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
and a month or two ago, it changed again to give the cobble more definition and substance. |
| 16:04 |
jojoa1997 |
probably less because it was the squary texture near before i left |
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CraigyDavi` |
T4im, but that only takes place when someone walks up to the mapblock, right? And then they would have to remove that code afterwards |
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| 16:06 |
CraigyDavi` |
Maybe it's just easier to make a config.php file with darkage.use_classic_cobble = true/false or whatever |
| 16:06 |
CraigyDavi` |
*.lua |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/8fece11cc7446f6c1e323a594cf043a8cce965f9#diff-5856ae5591da165c790696ec494017d9 |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
March 2012. |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
that's when it changed from bricks to "cobble" cobble. |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
wait, wrong commit |
| 16:07 |
jojoa1997 |
um |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/467e2029e220f1a90aef2c04468a6de95089c107#diff-5856ae5591da165c790696ec494017d9 |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
that one |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
March 2013. |
| 16:08 |
jojoa1997 |
that was from vobble to brick ;) |
| 16:08 |
jojoa1997 |
wtf is witht he mese texture |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
the second one is when stone bricks were added and is when we gained the cobble-looking texture we had until _next was merged. |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
so still over a year ago. |
| 16:08 |
jojoa1997 |
I miss the old mese look |
| 16:08 |
CraigyDavi` |
I like the new mese |
| 16:08 |
jojoa1997 |
um |
| 16:09 |
CraigyDavi` |
Old one looked like "mese" was drawn by a three year old |
| 16:09 |
jojoa1997 |
march 202013 |
| 16:09 |
jojoa1997 |
Yeah but it had that special feature to it |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: yeah. March 2013. this is now August 2014. that's about a year and a half ago. |
| 16:09 |
jojoa1997 |
now I have to dig ore to make a block |
| 16:10 |
jojoa1997 |
:P |
| 16:10 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: wrong. |
| 16:10 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: dig deeper. solid blocks can be found at -1024 and below. |
| 16:10 |
jojoa1997 |
i forgot about that |
| 16:10 |
jojoa1997 |
and i meant this one |
| 16:10 |
jojoa1997 |
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest_game/8fece11cc7446f6c1e323a594cf043a8cce965f9/mods/default/textures/default_mese.png |
| 16:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Why was it removed? |
| 16:12 |
jojoa1997 |
great now I feel the necesity to play the old miencraft versions |
| 16:12 |
CraigyDavi` |
Well the word mese originated from mese eyes "8D". That texture didn't really sum that up imo |
| 16:12 |
jojoa1997 |
mese eyes? |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: oh G*d, that old one? because it's ugly as sin |
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jojoa1997 |
no that is a smiley face with sun glasses |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
sorry to cisoun but that one is just terrible |
| 16:12 |
CraigyDavi` |
No it's mese eyes |
| 16:13 |
jojoa1997 |
um |
| 16:13 |
jojoa1997 |
gosh what version did i join in |
| 16:13 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what version was the game when you first joined? |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: 0.4.0-d1 or thereabouts |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
March 2012. |
| 16:13 |
jojoa1997 |
oh what? |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
first post was on April 1, 2012. |
| 16:14 |
jojoa1997 |
I thought I joined before you |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1580 |
| 16:14 |
jojoa1997 |
I joined july 2012 |
| 16:14 |
jojoa1997 |
I am blind |
| 16:14 |
jojoa1997 |
I remember now |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
(I don't count my forum join date as when I joined the community - I was here for about a month before I started on the forum) |
| 16:15 |
jojoa1997 |
same here |
| 16:15 |
jojoa1997 |
I had to go behind my moms back to join XD |
| 16:15 |
jojoa1997 |
she was still in control of my email then |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
hell you STILL go behind your mom's back :P |
| 16:17 |
jojoa1997 |
The first game I played I went in a desert but the thing was HUGE, I never found another biomne except the sea |
| 16:17 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE yeah but this was the first time I ever did that |
| 16:17 |
jojoa1997 |
Minetest corrupted me |
| 16:17 |
jojoa1997 |
and also made me independant |
| 16:18 |
jojoa1997 |
stupid dad |
| 16:18 |
jojoa1997 |
shut off the power to my side of the house to work on electricity |
| 16:18 |
jojoa1997 |
I WAS USIG MY DUAL MONITOR HERE! |
| 16:18 |
jojoa1997 |
john_minetest i waited 5 months to use mine |
| 16:18 |
jojoa1997 |
5 months to join |
| 16:19 |
jojoa1997 |
it was also my first forum and my first online multiplayer experience(excepot webkins) |
| 16:19 |
PenguinDad |
this remembers me of my first ram corruption… lol |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: trust me, get two monitors and use them for a while and you'll wonder how you EVER got by with just one,. |
| 16:19 |
jojoa1997 |
john_minetest watching the college class while doing the work |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
after a while you may find yourself wishing you had THREE. |
| 16:19 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE +1 |
| 16:19 |
T4im |
multi monitor setups pay out quickly.. you need way less context switching, when working on several tasks |
| 16:20 |
jojoa1997 |
Example I usually keep my searching google on my right screen(second monitor) and all the video stuff where coloration matters on my leptop screen |
| 16:20 |
jojoa1997 |
john_minetest that is fine but dual monitor is better |
| 16:20 |
T4im |
minetest: nope, since you can look at both at the same time |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: nope, it's faster with two monitors, because you don't have to re-focus |
| 16:21 |
T4im |
imagine you code in one window while testing on the other.. no switching of stuff at all.. or write somethign in one, while using the other as a template |
| 16:21 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE when I move out I want a 3-6 monitor set up when I get a desktop computer |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: after a while, it feels like having one very wide screen |
| 16:21 |
T4im |
yes ^^ |
| 16:22 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: I'll see your 1920x1080 and raise you 3200x1200. :-) |
| 16:22 |
jojoa1997 |
john_minetest i used ubuntu also and had 4 virtual desktops and use deskpot which is that but for windows |
| 16:22 |
jojoa1997 |
Dual monitor wroks even better with VDs |
| 16:23 |
T4im |
gnome 3 is neat.. it allows you to set up VD that way, that it only switches one monitor to another vd.. |
| 16:23 |
MinetestBot |
[Git] Sapier at GMX dot net -> minetest/minetest: Log unhandled exceptions in connectionthreads to errorstream 62ea342 http://git.io/72CAhA (2014-09-06T18:22:27+02:00) |
| 16:23 |
T4im |
you can basicly have a sticky browser :) |
| 16:23 |
T4im |
or something similar |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: when your eyes go bad, you'll wish you had a bigger monitor :) |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
more pixels is nice |
| 16:24 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what monitor do you use? |
| 16:24 |
jojoa1997 |
My second monitor is my TV |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: I have a pair of Dell 2001FPs |
| 16:25 |
jojoa1997 |
pic? |
| 16:25 |
T4im |
there's this computer scientist guy, that held lectures after being diagnosed with a brain tumor.. one of the tips he gave to everyone, where he regreted to not do it earlier in life, is to buy a second screen.. :P |
| 16:25 |
jojoa1997 |
Ill have to show you a pic of my setup |
| 16:25 |
* T4im |
forgot the name, but he appeared later in a star trek movie as a last wish |
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| 16:25 |
jojoa1997 |
I miss my old desk where it had more room but I can now put my computer in a corner |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: I do not have a good photo of this setup, my desk is too messy :P |
| 16:25 |
jojoa1997 |
my desk |
| 16:26 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE i mean online |
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| 16:26 |
jojoa1997 |
I think I will go play Minecraft |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
noooo |
| 16:27 |
jojoa1997 |
FYI Minecraft is way better as a game but if you mod stuff for Minetest_game...Minecraft is still smoother ;) |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
so help make minetest better. |
| 16:27 |
jojoa1997 |
My mom prefers Minetest over Minecraft because she can barely play Minetest and cant play Minecraft XD |
| 16:27 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I am playing with a friend |
| 16:28 |
jojoa1997 |
Anyways once I get a Minetest server up we can play minetest too ;D |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
meh, just play on mine |
| 16:29 |
jojoa1997 |
Um |
| 16:29 |
jojoa1997 |
no |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
not even Vanilla? |
| 16:29 |
jojoa1997 |
First I dont want to force her to register in the forums and stuff |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
you don't have to. |
| 16:29 |
jojoa1997 |
and two we are playing with ea...WHAT! |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
G*d damn you are out of date. |
| 16:29 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE who are you and what have you done with VanessaE |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
oh hell jojo I lifted that rule a LONG time ago |
| 16:30 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE the most I have been involved until recently is barely looking at the forums |
| 16:30 |
jojoa1997 |
ok VanessaE write me an essay on all the changes that has happened to everyone so I am up to date |
| 16:30 |
jojoa1997 |
NOW |
| 16:30 |
* jojoa1997 |
offers VanessaE a kitten as an exchange |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
"Well, first the earth cooled...and then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they died and turned into oil. And then the Arabs came, and they bought Mercedes Benzes..." |
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| 16:32 |
jojoa1997 |
um |
| 16:32 |
jojoa1997 |
you are wrong |
| 16:32 |
luizrpgluiz |
hi |
| 16:32 |
jojoa1997 |
one second |
| 16:33 |
jojoa1997 |
I currently fact checked a video |
| 16:33 |
fishyWET |
hey, would anyone be interested to combine capes from minetest_game default character into minetest-3d-armor character, to allow capes and armor to be worn at the same time, sort of targeted towards Jordach |
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| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: jeez man, get some culture. I was quoting "Airplane!". |
| 16:34 |
jojoa1997 |
Well it was before the dinosaurs, but when the plants ruled the earth and there was .... VanessaE I am in IB. I dont have time to talk here let alone get soem culture |
| 16:34 |
jojoa1997 |
Capes on default character? |
| 16:34 |
jojoa1997 |
They finished that?!@ |
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| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
wait, Airplane II |
| 16:34 |
jojoa1997 |
Jordach hi |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
I was quoting Airplane II rather. |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
Steve McCroskey: Jacobs, I want to know absolutely everything that's happened up till now. |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
Jacobs: Well, let's see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it. |
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jojoa1997 |
forget playing |
| 16:35 |
jojoa1997 |
It is time to do some testing of elementaryOS |
| 16:36 |
jojoa1997 |
Does anyone here use python day to day? |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: just watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabLtuTpDw8 |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
25 seconds. |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
that video fits PERFECTLY with this discussion |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
it can't get any better. |
| 16:37 |
jojoa1997 |
lol |
| 16:37 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE one word |
| 16:37 |
jojoa1997 |
OLD! That is an old movie and I dont watch that many movies |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
just watch the G*d damned clip :) |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
you can spare 25 seconds :) |
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| 16:41 |
jojoa1997 |
i watched it |
| 16:41 |
jojoa1997 |
hence the old comment |
| 16:42 |
* dimension |
wonders what she walked into |
| 16:43 |
jojoa1997 |
shadowzone you walked into my MIND! I cant even escape the insanity! |
| 16:43 |
* shadowzone |
shivers |
| 16:43 |
shadowzone |
It is creepy in here. |
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| 16:44 |
jojoa1997 |
You know I have seen Windows, Linux, and Mac and really they all are not bad. To me it seems that people dont like the companies or ideas behind the operating systems |
| 16:44 |
shadowzone |
I prefer linux. |
| 16:44 |
jojoa1997 |
so all those who think that Macs are now in the sour apple stage and Windows should be thrown out of themselves can go in a hole. Argue against the company or idea not the product! |
| 16:45 |
jojoa1997 |
shadowzone I like Linux a lot but I will always use Windows. |
| 16:45 |
jojoa1997 |
Though Windows 8 seems nice but it sucks because it is a pain in da behind |
| 16:46 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE did I used to spam around right before I left? |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: not that I recall. |
| 16:47 |
jojoa1997 |
Did I spam when I first joined? |
| 16:47 |
jojoa1997 |
actually |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
a bit, yes. |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
as for windows or os-x, I've used both, and I don't like how they function. |
| 16:47 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I do agree with you a bit there. Except there is no perfect OS ;) |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
windows has a track record of poor security and poor stability, and it is maintained by a company that panders to the US government and media corporations, so it is not trustworthy in the slightest. os-x I just don't like its usability model is all. |
| 16:48 |
jojoa1997 |
Now that I think about it, to me I did not spam when I first joined because I didnt understand how forums really work and there was no malicious content. I just posted wrond and did have many questions |
| 16:49 |
jojoa1997 |
Ah but VanessaE windows uses all the programs my mom bought and Linux distributions dont last long in my hands |
| 16:49 |
T4im |
well.. theres a slight hope that the new CEO turns a few things around at MS... at least i doubt he can make anthing worse... that ballmer guy was simply crazy |
| 16:49 |
jojoa1997 |
I have broken a Linux OS over 100 times now. |
| 16:50 |
T4im |
thats the difference.. you gotta break a linux.. windows breaks all on its own |
| 16:50 |
jojoa1997 |
not a single one but overall. Only ubuntu seems to last for me compared to the others(7 times for ubuntu) |
| 16:50 |
jojoa1997 |
T4im no |
| 16:50 |
T4im |
:D |
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| 16:50 |
T4im |
at least it did back in the days |
| 16:51 |
jojoa1997 |
I have never broke or had windows break on me |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: if an OS "doesn't last long in [your] hands" I'd call that a PEBCAK issue ;-) |
| 16:51 |
jojoa1997 |
It is the user, My sister had to get a new computer because she physically broke it and "mentally" broke it while mine is in perfect overused condition |
| 16:51 |
jojoa1997 |
PEBCAK? |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 16:52 |
jojoa1997 |
Did I ever say I was sane? |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 16:52 |
T4im |
jojoa: even today, people defend windows still by 'its pretty stable by now'... they dont sell you the feature of useability, security, ease of use, empowering, performance, cost effeciency, or anything else but the fact, that it is not suddenly bsod'ing anymore.. |
| 16:52 |
T4im |
:D |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997 |
T4im I am not defending the stability or windows. I am defending windows on the fact that |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997 |
those who hate windows think |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997 |
that those who use and like windows are idiots |
| 16:54 |
jojoa1997 |
Also a friend of mine uses Mac for it's ability in design. Me I use windows cause 1) mom(I cant argue against he most authoritative figure in my life for hte most part) and 2) I am too integrated into it, |
| 16:55 |
T4im |
well.. fair enough.. i guess that or something along those lines might be 'felt' quite often i guess.. if it makes you feel any better, i dont think that it implies being an idiot at all.. |
| 16:55 |
jojoa1997 |
But I also use Linux and see the not perfect side of it |
| 16:55 |
T4im |
though i do count this as another issue of 'plato's cave' |
| 16:55 |
T4im |
just as the monitors |
| 16:55 |
T4im |
;) |
| 16:55 |
jojoa1997 |
Also I think it is bad that the fact that I uninstalled ever program on a ubuntu live usb means something |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
Do you know the situation where you need to fart but can't |
| 16:56 |
jojoa1997 |
School |
| 16:57 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what are all the kinds of servers you run? |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: I have eight of them |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
casimir, I was on your server and ran into a problem: How can I craft an axe? It's not possible to dig the trunks by hand and the leaves are only craftable to sticks |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
two running Dreambuilder (one creative, one survival). One running Nore/sfan5's MG mapgen mod, one running Nostalgia Game, one running Realtest, one Vanilla + a few basic mods, one also vanilla + a few more mods + PVP (free for all), and one for testing experimental stuff on technic |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
!server mg |
| 17:00 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: No results |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 17:01 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE geesh |
| 17:01 |
Krock |
!server mapgen |
| 17:01 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: VanessaE's/Nore's Lua mapgen test Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30003 | Clients: 0/50, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 218ms |
| 17:02 |
Krock |
sfan5 ^ |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
i see |
| 17:02 |
PenguinDad |
!server Creative |
| 17:02 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: VanessaE's Creative Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com | Clients: 0/50, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / dreambuilder_game | Ping: 116ms |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: the bot name in the server network is "MG-Nore" |
| 17:02 |
jojoa1997 |
time to do my class, I am insane for doing a college class and all IB classes |
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| 17:03 |
jojoa1997 |
oh also my spanish teacher told my class that International Baccalaureate meant International High School...I learned the meaning of my program's english name in Spanish... wtf is this! |
| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
!server players:most |
| 17:05 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 59/78, 65/75 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 46ms |
| 17:07 |
jojoa1997 |
How would I make a gas in Minetest? Kinda like water physics but going up? |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
there's no function for that yet |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
you'll have to fake it |
| 17:08 |
jojoa1997 |
That is what i mean |
| 17:08 |
jojoa1997 |
How can I fake it |
| 17:08 |
jojoa1997 |
Or is someone working on something like that? |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
setting nodes and managing where you set them |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
I mean literally coding it from scratch |
| 17:08 |
jojoa1997 |
Forget that it would be too laggy |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
it would be slow, but not necessarily laggy |
| 17:09 |
jojoa1997 |
What would be a sensible way of extracting gasses from the air? I want to make an elements mod(all the elements int he periodic table) so i can do some realistic mods |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
that has been tried before and can't be done the way you want |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
besides, air contains only a few trace elements. |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
most of the elements you'd get from the ground. |
| 17:10 |
jojoa1997 |
I was planning on having air pockets underground |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
you'd have to make a machine that basically randomly creates and drops whatever your element is. |
| 17:10 |
jojoa1997 |
grrrr |
| 17:10 |
jojoa1997 |
I hate/suck at formspec |
| 17:10 |
jojoa1997 |
s |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
everyone does. |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
except RBA and sapier :) |
| 17:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Oh VanessaE I finally understand the for loops. all thanks to testing in python |
| 17:11 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I love them but I hate anything but the player inventory |
| 17:12 |
jojoa1997 |
Is there a machine that randomly gives you items that someone else has coded |
| 17:12 |
jojoa1997 |
? |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
# |
| 17:12 |
* jojoa1997 |
pets sfan5 |
| 17:12 |
* sfan5 |
purrs |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
not that I know of, but your "mese giver" item from your display blocks mod is similar. |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
re-code that to do what you want. |
| 17:12 |
jojoa1997 |
what? |
| 17:12 |
jojoa1997 |
display blocks... |
| 17:12 |
jojoa1997 |
googleing |
| 17:13 |
jojoa1997 |
I made that? |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=59393 |
| 17:13 |
jojoa1997 |
That is too good for me to have mad |
| 17:13 |
jojoa1997 |
made |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 17:13 |
jojoa1997 |
I couldnt have coded something like that I suck, I cant even remem... I havent coded in near a year I just remembered |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
you coded it. |
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| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
your git repo even still exists: https://github.com/jojoa1997/display_blocks |
| 17:14 |
jojoa1997 |
no wonder I always remmebered it being easier, I also forgot about overcraftorigins |
| 17:14 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, you have 7 mods, 4 of them are in modding general |
| 17:14 |
Krock |
magic. |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
and I still use that mod in dreambuilder. |
| 17:14 |
jojoa1997 |
Krock nope |
| 17:15 |
jojoa1997 |
Overcraft Origins has lots more mods that I mostly rewrote |
| 17:15 |
jojoa1997 |
also I have to update this now D: https://github.com/jojoa1997/MC_TO_MT_CONV |
| 17:15 |
jojoa1997 |
Maybe I will just make a python script |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
.bat <3 |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
ew .bat |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
ew cmd.exe |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
ew .exe |
| 17:16 |
jojoa1997 |
ew cat |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
ew windows |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
ew microsoft |
| 17:16 |
* jojoa1997 |
stabs sfan5 |
| 17:16 |
jojoa1997 |
say ew to microsoft not windows |
| 17:16 |
* sfan5 |
meows at jojoa1997 |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
I could write a more efficient program in C#, but idk where MC stores all those images |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
windows sucks |
| 17:16 |
jojoa1997 |
wtf |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
microsoft sucks less than windows |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
sfan5, only if you pay for it. |
| 17:17 |
jojoa1997 |
the chemistry mod depends on technic |
| 17:17 |
jojoa1997 |
but gives an error |
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| 17:18 |
jojoa1997 |
It has gas condesner |
| 17:18 |
* sfan5 |
goes play some Sauerbraten |
| 17:18 |
casimir |
Krock: I updated the post about the server and added some recipes there. |
| 17:19 |
* Krock |
gives casimir one of his 18 million cookies |
| 17:19 |
casimir |
*nom* |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
casimir, so I have to find rocks to start enjoy |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
(because they're the only hand-digable) |
| 17:20 |
casimir |
Yes, but they are quite common. |
| 17:21 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I know. Build a block that poops out special vials containing gasses |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
hmm. this can result in some ugly stone fields because the dirt above has been dug :3 |
| 17:21 |
jojoa1997 |
pops |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: exactly. |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: but the user needs to put stuff into that block |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
otherwise it's just a source of free materials. |
| 17:22 |
jojoa1997 |
I would like to see a way to add modifiers into Minetest like for tooks |
| 17:22 |
jojoa1997 |
tools |
| 17:23 |
jojoa1997 |
also VanessaE it would need fuel to run and glass bottles put in |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
that's a start. |
| 17:23 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE what branch do you get the technic mod from |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/ |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
master branch |
| 17:24 |
jojoa1997 |
I will just use that for power ;) |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
that's smart actually. |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
HV power and glass or steel bottles in, materials out |
| 17:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
1.) Get ps4 |
| 17:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
2.) Get xbox 1 |
| 17:25 |
jojoa1997 |
hmmm |
| 17:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
3.) Lock in room |
| 17:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
4.)... |
| 17:26 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE is there a wiki for technic |
| 17:26 |
jojoa1997 |
or actually |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: there's a manual on that link, and an outdated craft guide, http://technic.kosyak.info/ |
| 17:26 |
jojoa1997 |
I just need to join your server |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
that'll help somewhat |
| 17:27 |
Krock |
VanessaE, seems like it got updated in the last 5 months - it's now chrome compatible |
| 17:28 |
* sfan5 |
meows at jordan4ibanez |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
Krock: it's outdated in the sense of the recipes and textures being shown are old |
| 17:28 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE it says access denied wrong password |
| 17:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
No sfan5, get off the RUG |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: what says? |
| 17:29 |
jojoa1997 |
your creative server |
| 17:29 |
jojoa1997 |
can you reset it? |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: sure |
| 17:29 |
Krock |
jordan4ibanez, you forgot to take a |
| 17:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
beer |
| 17:29 |
* sfan5 |
is a cat |
| 17:29 |
* sfan5 |
curls up to jordan4ibanez's lap |
| 17:29 |
Krock |
yes. food |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: /msg. |
| 17:30 |
jojoa1997 |
saw |
| 17:30 |
* PenguinDad |
wgets up to jordan4ibanez' lap |
| 17:30 |
jojoa1997 |
I am now hacking into my account >:D |
| 17:30 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997, i see you |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: since when are you here? |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, I guess, that's alloud |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
*allowed |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
beat you to it, Jordach |
| 17:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
Since yesterday |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: you lacked interact because of a server auth reset a long time ago |
| 17:35 |
davexunit |
hello again. I have created a patch that adds support for a MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH env var: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1609 |
| 17:35 |
jojoa1997 |
ah |
| 17:36 |
* Krock |
looks happily at his "(1.19% of all posts / 5.02 posts per day)" display |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
davexunit: mention this in #minetest-dev also |
| 17:36 |
davexunit |
VanessaE: oh sure, I forgot about that channel. thanks. |
| 17:39 |
jojoa1997 |
what is the centrifuge for? |
| 17:45 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE now I remember why I stopped playing on your server. It was WAY to laggy |
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| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
define "laggy" |
| 17:46 |
jojoa1997 |
wait not laggy, well |
| 17:46 |
PenguinDad |
Lag y? |
| 17:46 |
jojoa1997 |
I do an action and it takes 30 seconds for it to start |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
the centrifuge is used for creating uranium fuel for the nuke reactor. |
| 17:46 |
jojoa1997 |
I wish you could just make a nuke reactor without all that concrete |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: come on, my servers are not that laggy, |
| 17:47 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE internet connection |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: you can. |
| 17:47 |
jojoa1997 |
what? |
| 17:47 |
jojoa1997 |
Hpw |
| 17:47 |
jojoa1997 |
how |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
follow the manual. |
| 17:47 |
jojoa1997 |
which is where? |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
on the technic repo |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/manual.md |
| 17:48 |
jojoa1997 |
wow I am still amazed at how much I posted. 2% of all posts and 4.49 posts per fday even though I left for about half a year |
| 17:49 |
* Jordach |
isn't a fan of peeling player_textures data from his VRAM |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
so wget it from my archive :P |
| 17:52 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE it doesnt say anything about a way to bypass making the outer shell |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: you just don't make the outer shell. |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
but the caveat is higher radiation then |
| 17:53 |
jojoa1997 |
I am testing a mod |
| 17:53 |
jojoa1997 |
I dont want to constantly remake the reactor |
| 17:54 |
* sfan5 |
meows at jojoa1997 |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: so build it once and don't let it melt down. |
| 17:54 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I think an option should be added |
| 17:54 |
jojoa1997 |
to allow the bypass of all of that stuff |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
no dice |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
build it or use a shitload of solar panels. |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
the whole point of technic is to be realistic, not to be used as a testing platform for some other mod :) |
| 17:56 |
jojoa1997 |
well I also would not build the reactor on my survival world |
| 17:56 |
jojoa1997 |
I am lazy ;) |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
lots of people built them on mine. |
| 17:56 |
jojoa1997 |
the testing another mod is an excuse |
| 17:56 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I built the first one remember |
| 17:57 |
jojoa1997 |
I was going to let other poeple use it but the chuncks became a problem |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember who built the first one :P |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
that's not a problem anymore |
| 17:57 |
jojoa1997 |
what? |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
technic can send power long distances now |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
VanessaE, by forceloading blocks? |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
Krock: yep |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
:/ |
| 17:58 |
jojoa1997 |
Does anyone have an OpenSuse server that is running a Minetest server? |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
Redcrab |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
redcrab doesn't count :P |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
he still runs 0.4.4 for crying out loud :P |
| 17:58 |
jojoa1997 |
Redcrab is gone isnt he |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
not precisely. |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
the server is still around and redcrab keeps paying the hosting bill |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
but he isn't around to update it |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
idk why |
| 18:00 |
jojoa1997 |
bbl |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
Always look up on everybody unless they hinder you getting down. |
| 18:02 |
Krock |
:) |
| 18:02 |
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| 18:03 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: ~someone isn't everybody |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, then tell me the correct !"someone" |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
¨help |
| 18:05 |
* Krock |
tried to access HLuaBot |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
HLuaBot: |
| 18:05 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: nobody |
| 18:05 |
PenguinDad |
''help |
| 18:05 |
HLuaBot |
Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, networks, connect, disconnect, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command. |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
not ¨ |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
'' |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
almost. |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
''give |
| 18:05 |
HLuaBot |
Unknown command "give". Try "help". |
| 18:05 |
* Krock |
gives jojoa1997 Always look up on nobody unless they hinder you getting down. |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c)) for c in "someone") |
| 18:06 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: chr() arg not in range(0x110000) |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
!rev someone |
| 18:06 |
MinetestBot |
enoemos |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
uh oh |
| 18:06 |
PenguinDad |
''help echo |
| 18:06 |
HLuaBot |
Usage: echo <Text> -- Say something |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xff) for c in "someone") |
| 18:06 |
MinetestBot |
'\x8c\x90\x92\x9a\x90\x91\x9a' |
| 18:06 |
jojoa1997 |
Krock ? |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
lel |
| 18:06 |
sfan5 |
Krock: '\x8c\x90\x92\x9a\x90\x91\x9a' |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, your exit message |
| 18:06 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
I flipped it |
| 18:07 |
jojoa1997 |
what did I set it to again? |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
[09-06 14:01] * jojoa1997 has quit (Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.) |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
- jojoa1997 quit (Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.) |
| 18:07 |
PenguinDad |
!c (ord('A'), ord('a')) |
| 18:07 |
MinetestBot |
(65, 97) |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd :) |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
:( |
| 18:07 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah |
| 18:07 |
jojoa1997 |
and it is true |
| 18:07 |
jojoa1997 |
not like the lies Krock was preaching |
| 18:08 |
jojoa1997 |
;) |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
!c 'LOL'.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffff) for c in "someone") |
| 18:08 |
MinetestBot |
'ﾌLOLï¾LOLï¾’LOLﾚLOLï¾LOLﾑLOLﾚ' |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
trololo |
| 18:08 |
jojoa1997 |
Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up, or you are taller than them! |
| 18:08 |
PenguinDad |
SHOUTING SAVES BANDWITH! :D |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, mhm? |
| 18:08 |
PenguinDad |
!c (ord('A'), ord('a')) |
| 18:08 |
MinetestBot |
(65, 97) |
| 18:08 |
PenguinDad |
^ Krock |
| 18:08 |
jojoa1997 |
Cause my friend is shorter than me and I am always looking down , when I am looking at her |
| 18:08 |
jojoa1997 |
It sucks being tall |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
OKAY BUT SHOUTING IS NOT VERY NICE |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
It's not like chat eats too much bandwith |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
Krock: cats eat bandwidth |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffff) for c in "someone") |
| 18:09 |
MinetestBot |
'ﾌï¾ï¾’ﾚï¾ï¾‘ﾚ' |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
sounds good |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
thats the inverse of "someone" |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
sfan5, yeah. they alsoeat the middle line of the roads, in 2m - distances |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffff) for c in "Hello, I'm sfan5 and I'm a cat.") |
| 18:10 |
MinetestBot |
'ﾷﾚﾓﾓï¾ï¿“\uffdfﾶ\uffd8ï¾’\uffdfﾌﾙﾞﾑￊ\uffdfﾞﾑﾛ\uffdfﾶ\uffd8ï¾’\uffdfﾞ\uffdfﾜﾞﾋ\uffd1' |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
> \uffdf |
| 18:11 |
PenguinDad |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffffff) for c in "Hello, I'm sfan5 and I'm a cat.") |
| 18:11 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: chr() arg not in range(0x110000) |
| 18:11 |
PenguinDad |
:( |
| 18:11 |
* VanessaE |
waits for the inevitable bot segfault |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0x110000) for c in "Hello, I'm sfan5 and I'm a cat.") |
| 18:11 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: chr() arg not in range(0x110000) |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
uh |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0x10FFFF) for c in "Hello, I'm sfan5 and I'm a cat.") |
| 18:12 |
MinetestBot |
'\U0010ffb7\U0010ff9a\U0010ff93\U0010ff93\U0010ff90\U0010ffd3\U0010ffdf\U0010ffb6\U0010ffd8\U0010ff92\U0010ffdf\U0010ff8c\U0010ff99\U0010ff9e\U0010ff91\U0010ffca\U0010ffdf\U0010ff9e\U0010ff91\U0010ff9b\U0010ffdf\U0010ffb6\U0010ffd8\U0010ff92\U0010ffdf\U0010ff9e\U0010ffdf\U0010ff9c\U0010ff9e\U0010ff8b\U0010ffd1' |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
bingo. |
| 18:12 |
jojoa1997 |
what? |
| 18:12 |
jojoa1997 |
It says packages are not found |
| 18:12 |
jojoa1997 |
I cant build a server? |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~(ord(c) & 0xffff)) for c in "Hello, I'm sfan5 and I'm a cat.") |
| 18:12 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: chr() arg not in range(0x110000) |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: what packages? |
| 18:12 |
jojoa1997 |
um |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffff) for c in "nobody") |
| 18:12 |
MinetestBot |
'ﾑï¾ï¾ï¾ï¾›ï¾†' |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
sfan5, you said a ")" too much |
| 18:12 |
jojoa1997 |
zypper install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
where the error came |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: opensuse will not have the same package names as debian |
| 18:13 |
jojoa1997 |
well then what packages! |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
google it. |
| 18:13 |
jojoa1997 |
grrrr no way! |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
search there http://software.opensuse.org/ |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
(maybe) |
| 18:14 |
* Krock |
wonders.... |
| 18:14 |
* PenguinDad |
throws Muminmironi at sfan5 :P |
| 18:14 |
jojoa1997 |
Anyone got a free server they would like to donate! |
| 18:14 |
Krock |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) | 0x10FFFF) for c in "nobody") |
| 18:14 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: chr() arg not in range(0x110000) |
| 18:14 |
jojoa1997 |
jk |
| 18:17 |
* sfan5 |
throws Fumimeremimure at PenguinDad :p |
| 18:18 |
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| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
!c ''.join(chr(~ord(c) & 0xffff) for c in "anybody") |
| 18:18 |
MinetestBot |
'ﾞﾑﾆï¾ï¾ï¾›ï¾†' |
| 18:19 |
jojoa1997 |
:O https://www.evolvehq.com/games/3388 |
| 18:20 |
jojoa1997 |
they actually added it |
| 18:22 |
jojoa1997 |
I wonder is there any way to host a Minetest server without port forewarding |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
depends on your network setup |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
I never had to port-forward from my box. |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
uPNP is the only way of doing it at home |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
because I didn't use a router |
| 18:23 |
jojoa1997 |
WPA2 |
| 18:23 |
jojoa1997 |
uPNP? |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
^insecure |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: not true. |
| 18:23 |
jojoa1997 |
D: |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
universal plug n' play |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
just stop putting a router on every damn home network if it isn't truly needed |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, the router will open them for the machine for the time required |
| 18:23 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE it is needed in my home |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, most ISP modem / DSL / ADSL connection points (the Wi-Fail box) act also as a router |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: and that feature can be turned off in the modem, too |
| 18:25 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: if you are using a totally outdated of your os then it surely is insecure |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
+ version |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, "As a result, some UPnP devices ship with UPnP turned off by default as a security measure." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play -> Problems with UPnP |
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| 18:27 |
jojoa1997 |
and technic needs pipeworks! |
| 18:27 |
f-a |
just downloaded compiled minetest, good job guys |
| 18:27 |
jojoa1997 |
another mod! |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
f-a, you'll find the developers in #minetest-dev |
| 18:27 |
f-a |
thanks Krock |
| 18:28 |
f-a |
what do you guys play? |
| 18:28 |
f-a |
I mean, vanilla? |
| 18:28 |
Krock |
omg you have a type speed of 100 km/h |
| 18:28 |
f-a |
:P |
| 18:28 |
Krock |
Today I ade vanilla (ice cream) and played minetest. |
| 18:28 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: did you know that every soft- and hardware is potentially insecure? :p |
| 18:28 |
Krock |
*ate |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, yeah. even toasters could stand and kill all people on the earth by heating |
| 18:29 |
jojoa1997 |
what does initlib mean? |
| 18:29 |
jojoa1997 |
when it says it in depends |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
possible it's the translation mod? |
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| 18:30 |
Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4929 |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: if it has a ? mark, ignore it. |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
you don't NEED that mod. |
| 18:30 |
jojoa1997 |
kk |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
? means optional. |
| 18:30 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE where is my npc mod on your server? |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
deleted. |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
how come i forogt |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
it stopped working long ago |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
you weren't around to fix it |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
so I removed it |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
ah |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
oh yeah |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
i was around but i didnt know how |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
then it was fixed and then something happened and i didnt really care anymore |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
there is a trader NPC mod on Survival, by Sokomine |
| 18:31 |
jojoa1997 |
I will wait till the mob api to update it |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
and Creative and Survival have mummies in the desert pyramids |
| 18:32 |
jojoa1997 |
his isnt as sporatic as mine |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
what mob api? |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
there isn't one |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
probably never will be |
| 18:32 |
jojoa1997 |
...what? |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
hers* |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/nJoWUuk.gif |
| 18:33 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE Minetest really needs a MobAPI |
| 18:33 |
jojoa1997 |
being coded in C++ to make it faster |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: it needs a LOT of things, but right now what it needs mods are bug fixes and performance improvements. RealBadAngel is working on some of that |
| 18:33 |
jojoa1997 |
I know |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
a MOB API will probably not happen for a VERY long time and if it does, it will never be right because it will not be client-side like the devs know it needs to be |
| 18:34 |
jojoa1997 |
but the improvements will never stop |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
so it'll never be any good. |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
s/needs mods/needs most/ |
| 18:34 |
f-a |
mhhh |
| 18:34 |
jojoa1997 |
meh |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, the API already exists - but only in Lua |
| 18:34 |
f-a |
so, to enable mobs, I do have to download a mob, right? |
| 18:34 |
jojoa1997 |
where |
| 18:34 |
jojoa1997 |
in another mod? |
| 18:35 |
jojoa1997 |
no thank you |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
f-a: you have to download a mod such as MOBF, Calinou's fork of Simple MOBs, or similar |
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| 18:35 |
jojoa1997 |
I really dont like installing tons of mods, That is why I pushed so hard to add stuff to default game before |
| 18:35 |
f-a |
VanessaE: thanks for the tip. Any particular one you suggest? |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
f-a: one of those two in particular. |
| 18:36 |
jojoa1997 |
I would suggest Mobf if your computer can handle it |
| 18:36 |
f-a |
okie-dokie |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
mobf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
simple mobs: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656 |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
creatures: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9240 |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
those are the three most popular ones. |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: MOBF is no longer a problem with lag/CPU usage. sapier has fixed all of the issues it was thought to have. |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
http://goo.gl/8kfBGx |
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| 18:40 |
Krock |
mhm a Linux user clicked it with the chrome browser |
| 18:40 |
PenguinDad |
That design hurts my eyes :'( |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
chromium. |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
I don't like that shortener. too insecure |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
party like 1997 baby |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
chrome, indeed. as if. |
| 18:41 |
sfan5 |
me too |
| 18:41 |
sfan5 |
linux & chromium |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
http://goo.gl/#analytics/goo.gl/8kfBGx/all_time |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
they simply ignore the privacy |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
FAIL |
| 18:43 |
sfan5 |
Krock: we can't see your statistics |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
sfan5, mhm okay |
| 18:43 |
* Jordach |
can |
| 18:43 |
jojoa1997 |
How come the technic mod is messed up |
| 18:43 |
* PenguinDad |
can too |
| 18:43 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: works fine for me. |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6elzCkQyDinM.png |
| 18:44 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE you have a different init |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, it worked for me, last time I checked |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: I keep up-to-date with technic, though my current pull itsn't. |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
isn't* |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
no, strike that |
| 18:44 |
jojoa1997 |
the one from the github link VanessaE gave me the init in technic/technic is the same as technic/technic/machines |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
it should be up-to-date. |
| 18:44 |
jojoa1997 |
that is the problem |
| 18:45 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic is the repository for technic. |
| 18:45 |
VanessaE |
it's what I use. |
| 18:45 |
Krock |
jojoa1997, any error log? |
| 18:45 |
jojoa1997 |
or what i downloaded didnt have that |
| 18:46 |
jojoa1997 |
it is fine |
| 18:46 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: just clone the repository and use it directly. |
| 18:46 |
jojoa1997 |
i just copied it from dreambuilder |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
dreambuilder's technic might be a little bit outdated |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
also some components therein are disabled |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
e.g. frames |
| 18:48 |
jojoa1997 |
whatevs |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
Two eyes for a face, two tooth for spongebob, two evil for nether |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 18:49 |
PenguinDad |
vv |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
>> |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
<< |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
¯| ¯| |
| 18:51 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: ¬ ¬ |
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VanessaE |
┌┌ |
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PenguinDad |
TIL you can set multiple settings with one minetest.setting_set call |
| 19:07 |
* Krock |
is glad to see xyz active in minetest stuff again |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: xyz isn't really working on minetest |
| 19:09 |
garfonzo |
Hello |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, but at least active in the github repo |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
hi garfonzo |
| 19:12 |
garfonzo |
So is this just a general chat room for Minetest? I've poked around the Minetest site, tried out the game a bit, but thought I'd say "hello". |
| 19:12 |
garfonzo |
or is there a specific purpose to this chat room? |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
uhm. general chatting room |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
for core developement stuff, visit #minetest-dev |
| 19:13 |
garfonzo |
Ya, I have been watching that room a bit. |
| 19:13 |
garfonzo |
Ah, I see. Krock you associated with Minetest in any way, or just another player/user? |
| 19:13 |
* Krock |
is still searching a good topic to answer to |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
garfonzo, I'm modder and sometimes I create small pull requests for the engine |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
but over all - adverage |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
-d |
| 19:16 |
garfonzo |
@Krock Cool. I'm a software dev irl and have been a bit curious about the future of MineCRAFT servers, given what's unfolding. I imagine indie games, such as Minetest, might see an influx of players.... maybe |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
oh mah gawd |
| 19:16 |
garfonzo |
What? |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
splitsplat |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
Krock: dammit, it's splat split! :) |
| 19:17 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: *splatsplit |
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Krock |
VanessaE, nope nope nope nope |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
PenguinDad ^ |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
see? now you're outvoted ;) |
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| 19:18 |
Krock |
I count as 3 people cuz.. uhm.. just so. because I do. |
| 19:18 |
garfonzo |
So do you folks all play Minetest regularly? Do you play on servers or run servers with Minetest? |
| 19:18 |
* Krock |
runs a server and ruins testing servers |
| 19:18 |
garfonzo |
lol -- not sure if that's a spelling mistake, or inentional. You RUIN test servers, or run them? |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
I am a modder, very small contributions to core, and I run several servers. |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
and I drive people crazy here. |
| 19:19 |
garfonzo |
Haha, right on |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
garfonzo, you can catch it both ways, without the 'i' and with.. both will be correct |
| 19:19 |
garfonzo |
lol |
| 19:20 |
garfonzo |
Any idea how big the player base is for Minetest? Are there quite a large community, or is it still in its infancy? |
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Krock |
Forums say: Total members 10703 |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: somewhere in the low to mid thousands, I would guess |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
(active players that is) |
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| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
on the servers on the public list, there are currently 258. |
| 19:20 |
Krock |
I guess the daily minetest players to 200 |
| 19:20 |
garfonzo |
That's decent |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
better decent than spammy 24/7 |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
quite |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
!server test |
| 19:21 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 60/78, 62/75 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 48ms |
| 19:21 |
garfonzo |
ya, true |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
O_o |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
o-O |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
wtf is he doing that so many like? |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
VanessaE, you just called a ruined server. many guests. |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
the map is all stone! |
| 19:22 |
garfonzo |
sweet, do I need anything special to hop on that server VanessaE? Or can I just fire up the client and join? |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: I guess just...join |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
I've only seen a screenshot of it like, once |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
try mine instead :) |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
!server Vanilla |
| 19:23 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 0/50, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 224ms |
| 19:23 |
T4im |
hmm, any idea of how many daily unique players? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
mtzeno.com is way better |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
</shameless_plug> |
| 19:23 |
* T4im |
wonders if anyone is logging/analyzing playerflow |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
!server Krock |
| 19:23 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 5/25, 5/13 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 387ms |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
T4im: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
^ best non-24/7 server evaah |
| 19:23 |
T4im |
oh, thanks :D |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
you mean like that? |
| 19:24 |
T4im |
yes |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
that's just my servers though |
| 19:24 |
T4im |
ah, wait.. thats just number of players |
| 19:24 |
T4im |
meant something like this: http://tremulous.net/graphs/ |
| 19:24 |
T4im |
last chart |
| 19:25 |
garfonzo |
VanessaE: It says I need a password? |
| 19:25 |
T4im |
gives a really good look on the lifetime of the community of an open source game |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: make one up and remember it |
| 19:25 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5KRHXEUt4&feature=youtu.be |
| 19:25 |
T4im |
seeing where in that lifetime minetest might be right now |
| 19:25 |
garfonzo |
done deal... |
| 19:25 |
Krock |
garfonzo, each server has its password and user list |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: slow it down and make it less dark at the darkest moments. Looks good otherwise |
| 19:26 |
Krock |
means, you have have X diffrent names (where X is the number of servers) |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
(at least, in the daytime it gets too dark) |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
T4im: never really occurred to me to track unique users. difficult. |
| 19:28 |
T4im |
well, you can make some assumptions based on nickname.. sure thats not 100% accurate, but it might come close |
| 19:28 |
garfonzo |
Krock: Interesting, so you can multiple characters, one for each server |
| 19:29 |
* PenguinDad |
throws Unvanquished at T4im |
| 19:29 |
Krock |
garfonzo, on some servers you can have infinite usernames... |
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Krock |
shouldn't be a suggestion. |
| 19:29 |
* T4im |
throws it back at PenguinDad |
| 19:29 |
* PenguinDad |
plays it |
| 19:29 |
* T4im |
was developer in it |
| 19:30 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, it has to go that dark, otherwise it would be almost invisible on bright textures |
| 19:31 |
T4im |
PenguinDad: did they finally settle on a gameplay concept by now? |
| 19:34 |
PenguinDad |
Gameplay concept? |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: ok |
| 19:36 |
T4im |
well.. in the beginning it was basicly the tremulous concept, but there was always the wish for a own gameconcept... noone really had one that was thought thorugh, but it was still developed blindly towards 'something' |
| 19:37 |
T4im |
and the main reason, that i left there at some point |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
now a days there are multiple subgames |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
each with its own goals |
| 19:40 |
PenguinDad |
T4im: I have no idea if they developed a gameplay concept till now :/ |
| 19:42 |
T4im |
hm |
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T4im |
well currently theres noone playing it on the servers.. while minetest might have a relativly small community, it's considerably more healthy |
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T4im |
which is a good thing \o/ |
| 19:48 |
raffahacks |
Small communities are ALWAYS better than big ones |
| 19:48 |
raffahacks |
Quite small i mean |
| 19:49 |
raffahacks |
For example this community is much more friendly than minecraft one |
| 19:50 |
* Krock |
doesn't know MCommunity |
| 19:51 |
garfonzo |
@raffahacks I think it depends on the server |
| 19:51 |
raffahacks |
I mean there are lots of stupid unfriendly gamers if the community is too big... And they dominate the scene |
| 19:52 |
T4im |
heared that a lot about minecraft.. but i cant say that its always the case |
| 19:52 |
garfonzo |
meh, I' not sure about that. With good moderators, a large community can be a great experience |
| 19:52 |
garfonzo |
T4im: agreed |
| 19:53 |
raffahacks |
In Italy we say "a few, but wise, people" |
| 19:53 |
garfonzo |
it certainly CAN be the case, but not always |
| 19:53 |
raffahacks |
Well, I like minecraft too, but it's too low level |
| 19:54 |
garfonzo |
raffahacks: what do you mean too low level? |
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T4im |
though there seems to be a correlation between size of community with the game concept.. i mean minetest might not have a finished polished game concept, but a good base that also allows servers to provide their own... that's worth a lot.. |
| 19:56 |
raffahacks |
Nothing special, I just find minetest community much better because it's made of coders, geeks in positive sense and adults |
| 19:56 |
raffahacks |
With adults i mean more evoluted people |
| 19:56 |
garfonzo |
ya those are good attributes in a community |
| 19:57 |
raffahacks |
I am for example 15, but i don't like talking with friends of my age much |
| 19:58 |
raffahacks |
Many of my friends are over 40 electronics or computer experts |
| 19:59 |
raffahacks |
It's much easier and useful to talk with them :) |
| 20:00 |
garfonzo |
Is there a "Mission Statement" somewhere on website for Minetest? I'm curious what the goal of the project is. |
| 20:01 |
raffahacks |
Maybe just to build an indie mc clone :p |
| 20:01 |
Krock |
garfonzo, other question: what's the target of MC? |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: yes, one moment. |
| 20:01 |
Krock |
(except of earning money) |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9177 |
| 20:02 |
garfonzo |
Krock: that's a good point. Really, it's quite open ended |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
garfonzo: read the c55.me link contained in that post, first, then read that post. |
| 20:02 |
raffahacks |
Krock: creating an infiniminer clone to become rich |
| 20:02 |
raffahacks |
Must go bye :) |
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* PenguinDad |
hugs Wikipedia |
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garfonzo |
VanessaE: Thanks for the links, reading them now |
| 20:06 |
* T4im |
too, thanks |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
I love goal #3 |
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