Time Nick Message 00:25 jojoa1997 Why do i even listen to idiots on the forums? They just make me mad assuming everything. 00:35 VanessaE what happened? 00:35 jojoa1997 um 00:36 jojoa1997 Here is my response https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9172&p=153024#p153024 00:37 jojoa1997 just read it 00:37 VanessaE lemme read the rest of the recent posts 00:38 jojoa1997 ok 00:38 jojoa1997 sure 00:40 jojoa1997 gaaaaaah, saying that i need to learn how to code to implement it and that the problem is I need to decide if I want to use Minetest or not... I wish he would just think before opening his trap 00:40 jojoa1997 s/he/he or she/ 00:41 VanessaE " A great example would be that I really want the ability to have nodes give of different colored lights, but alas that topic was already fought and lost by another person. " 00:41 VanessaE wait. 00:41 VanessaE RBA is working on that: 00:42 VanessaE [09-02 17:23] so hmmmm, eat this: http://i.imgur.com/wHjL1dJ.png ;) 00:42 jojoa1997 really!? 00:42 VanessaE yeah 00:42 VanessaE look at that image. 00:42 jojoa1997 awesome 00:42 VanessaE also, 00:42 VanessaE "Second my imagination and willing to make it is not nil," 00:42 VanessaE s/willing/willingness/ 00:43 VanessaE if you're gonna go grammar-nazi on the guy before you, watch your own typing too ;) 00:43 jojoa1997 Also that entire post was partly rage induced and simmered down 00:43 jojoa1997 also that was a quote of home 00:43 jojoa1997 him 00:43 * VanessaE keeps reading.. 00:44 jojoa1997 how far YOUR willing 00:44 VanessaE I know. 00:44 jojoa1997 he said willing (my out for being a grammer nazi) I was "quoting" him 00:44 VanessaE oh ok 00:44 VanessaE then wrap that word in "" 00:44 VanessaE :) 00:46 * VanessaE keeps reading.. 00:46 jojoa1997 VanessaE this guy is worse than people who down windows! 00:47 VanessaE I get that. 00:48 VanessaE He does make one valid point: that each person's desires for the game will vary enough that finding the optimal cross-section of features to fit everyone would be nearly impossible. 00:48 VanessaE BUT, your points are well-stated here but 00:48 VanessaE oops. 00:48 VanessaE BUT, your points are well-stated here. 00:49 VanessaE and you're absolutely right: 00:49 jojoa1997 there 00:49 VanessaE sounds in minetest suck. 00:50 jojoa1997 What really just annoyed me the most is that he assumed that I was some new person who never coded before. Well I have been in this community longer than you VanessaE 00:50 VanessaE yep 00:50 jojoa1997 and I have made many mods so I wish he would do some research 00:50 VanessaE pretty sure you have 00:51 jojoa1997 And his one correct point is already something I have admitted before. But if you fight for what you want you get it. example obsidian 00:51 VanessaE to a degree yeah 00:51 jojoa1997 yeah 00:51 VanessaE minetest_game has become active again, so fighting for what you want is less of a problem than before 00:51 VanessaE and pilzadam is not the gatekeeper there anymore either 00:51 jojoa1997 you cant have everything but asking for better sounds overall isnt something that requires the insult he gave 00:52 jojoa1997 what!? 00:52 VanessaE agreed. 00:52 jojoa1997 I HAVE A CHANCE AGAIN! 00:52 VanessaE yes, you have. 00:52 jojoa1997 PilzAdam <3 00:52 VanessaE sfan5, BlockMen and nore seem to be the primary agents to talk to now 00:52 jojoa1997 but I gell on yhe floor laughing when I saw that he had one post and he joined last week 00:52 jojoa1997 ah 00:53 jojoa1997 fffffffffff 00:53 jojoa1997 I just waitede 5 hours for opensuse to install on my vm 00:53 jojoa1997 and now it stopped working 00:53 kahrl grats 00:54 VanessaE haha 00:54 * jojoa1997 stabs opensuse 00:54 * jojoa1997 boots opensuse 00:54 VanessaE use Xubuntu instead. XFCE Is Your Friend.â„¢ 00:54 jojoa1997 seems like everything is starting 00:55 jojoa1997 VanessaE, someone is letting me use their server and I want to make a minetest server so we can play on it but I dont have permission on the server to install Minetest(superuser) so I wanted to build it local 00:55 jojoa1997 IT WORKS!!!! 00:55 VanessaE cool 00:58 jojoa1997 you know Mauvbic would have loved to see this http://i.imgur.com/wHjL1dJ.png 00:58 jojoa1997 too bad he already left his mods were cool 00:58 VanessaE yep 00:58 VanessaE in fact I just banned him from the forum for a month for shitposting. 00:59 VanessaE (and I don't care if he knows!) 00:59 * jojoa1997 hugs VanessaE 01:00 jojoa1997 I would have liked to see his response but if it was more posting like that I just dont have the time for it 01:01 VanessaE this last one was some mod of his, M55 or some such. I dunno, M and some number. instead of a mod there, it was some silly poem. 01:01 VanessaE and this was a mod that was in Mod Releases. 01:01 VanessaE (note, was) 01:02 jojoa1997 um oldcoder has a copy of it i think 01:03 jojoa1997 ?.? was? 01:03 VanessaE was - I moved it to offtopic. 01:03 jojoa1997 ahh 01:03 jojoa1997 Now all minetest needs is a script that allows me to build it in windows 01:03 VanessaE it no longer describes a mod. the whole damn first post is some childish poem 01:03 VanessaE that exists too :) 01:04 VanessaE I think 01:04 VanessaE ask sfan5, I'm certain he's scripted the proces 01:04 VanessaE +s 01:04 jojoa1997 doesnt work 01:04 jojoa1997 already tried a while ago 01:07 VanessaE then ask BlockMen :) 01:07 VanessaE or fess 01:07 VanessaE they also surely have scripted it 01:07 VanessaE (or is it called "batching" it? :P ) 01:07 jojoa1997 scripting 01:08 jojoa1997 OpenSuse installed!!!! 01:11 jojoa1997 I think I remeber why I left now 01:12 VanessaE ? 01:12 jojoa1997 left MT a while ago 01:12 jojoa1997 the drama wasnt worth it 01:12 VanessaE pain in the ass people like that guy> 01:12 VanessaE yeah I remember 01:12 VanessaE kinda missed seeing you around too 01:12 VanessaE but the same shit happens in any community 01:12 jojoa1997 yeah 01:12 jojoa1997 hence why i dont socialize 01:13 * jojoa1997 looks at his time in MT 01:13 jojoa1997 oxymoron here! 01:14 jojoa1997 VanessaE can you unban the guy. I want to see how he reacts 01:14 jojoa1997 and if he does that type of posting ban him for a month 01:14 VanessaE who, mauvebic? 01:15 jojoa1997 oh you banned mauvbic? 01:15 VanessaE yeah. 01:15 jojoa1997 nvm then 01:15 VanessaE HE is the one I was talking about who was shitposting. 01:15 jojoa1997 I knew that >.> 01:16 jojoa1997 <.< 01:16 jojoa1997 >.> 01:45 OldCoder yo 01:46 emeralds o/ OldCoder 02:00 blaise how do we kick clients off the server? 02:00 blaise I don't want to ban, but this client connected, starved to death, and is occupying 1 of 5 slots available for connecting clients.. 02:01 blaise it's name is happy 02:01 blaise when I /kick happy 02:01 blaise it says failed to kick player happy 02:06 VanessaE blaise: /kick username 02:06 VanessaE or /kick uasername 02:07 VanessaE the username is case-sensitive and must be spelled exactly 02:14 blaise hrmm 02:16 blaise from the client, I see bruno-extreme, blaise, happy 02:16 blaise from the irc mod I just see blaise 02:16 blaise and I can't kick happy 02:16 blaise been there for a few hours 02:16 blaise bruno-extreme just joined 02:18 blaise it's weird 02:30 VanessaE then happy isn't really on the server 02:30 VanessaE probably a ghost 02:30 VanessaE or you lack the necessary priv? 03:14 blaise they're ghosts 03:16 blaise the IP I have logged with their user id is not exchanging traffic through my router 03:16 blaise will the server handle these ghosts? or do I have to restart it? 03:23 VanessaE idk 03:23 VanessaE a restart couldn't hurt 03:34 Xenoth Can somebody please tell me where Calinou's moreblocks repo/zip has been moved to? Can't find the thing, and it's needed for technic_game. 03:34 blaise o.O 03:34 VanessaE sure, one second. 03:34 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks 03:34 Xenoth Ah, thanks VanessaE. 03:34 VanessaE all others, https://gitorious.org/calinou 03:35 VanessaE no prob. 03:36 Xenoth Also, RealBadAngel, if you're around, you might want to fix the git config for the submodules. 03:36 Xenoth To the above links ^^. 03:49 blaise !server MidnightSystems 03:49 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/5, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 125ms 03:49 * Xenoth is heading off. Night. 03:50 blaise VanessaE: what's the 1/4 mean on the server listing there? 03:50 blaise I know I can take up to 5 clients 03:50 blaise what's that other thing for? 03:50 VanessaE !server Vanilla 03:50 MinetestBot VanessaE: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 1/50, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 118ms 03:51 VanessaE I guess it would be the last totals for the day? 03:51 VanessaE I have no idea. 03:51 blaise lol 03:51 blaise curiouser and curiouser 03:51 VanessaE ask sfan5 :P 03:51 blaise sfan5: you awake? 03:51 blaise XD 03:52 VanessaE it's like 5:51 am his time, probably not. 03:52 blaise ah, lol 03:52 blaise it's about midnight here.. 04:07 VanessaE bbl 08:05 sfan5 blaise: yes 08:25 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Newspaper Carrier Day! :-D 08:38 * john_minetest imagines a newspaper carrier being an aircraft carrier with newspapers instead of aircrafts. pesheeew! 09:09 raffahacks Is there a 'remember password' function for multiplayer? 09:27 raffahacks ? 09:37 raffahacks It could be useful... 09:39 Megaf folks, does minetest has underground springs? 09:40 raffahacks Which lib is the main menu gui developed with? 09:40 T4im irrlicht 09:41 raffahacks Is it possible to design an ui with irrlicht? Is it not only for 3d? 09:45 raffahacks Shouldn't be better to create a normal gui launcher like in minecra**? 09:46 raffahacks No, it's useless, you are right 10:01 raffahacks Is irrlicht difficult to use? 10:04 raffahacks VanessaE: I tried your vanilla server 10:05 raffahacks Can you reccomend a lib for someone who learned a month ago what shaders are? :) 10:09 raffahacks It's better if a newbie doesn't destroy minetest with his first project 10:09 raffahacks :) 10:10 raffahacks I've written several cms, guess which one became the most used? 10:11 raffahacks The first, most vulnerable one, wrote when i was 12 :) 10:25 raffahacks Anyway, I will see if i can write some shaders. Bye :) 10:45 Jordach tally ho chaps 12:29 Marks_ Hi all 12:33 PenguinDad Julia looks really nice 13:59 Elench Is 0.4.9 old enough to cause problems? 14:01 Elench Also, how can I invert look? 14:10 ThatGraemeGuy Elench: problems as in mods not working properly? definitely 14:11 Elench Yes exactly that, thanks 15:22 alket hi , the servers are not showing for me 15:23 VanessaE "the servers"? 15:24 alket VanessaE, the online server , for multiplayer 15:24 VanessaE I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense 15:24 VanessaE there are many minetest servers. 15:24 VanessaE did you mean this? http://servers.minetest.net/ 15:25 alket VanessaE, I mean this http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-sht-04-052502cest.php 15:25 VanessaE that's not the server list. 15:25 VanessaE that's just your local world list for creating a local server. 15:26 alket isn't the Singlplayer ? 15:26 VanessaE no. 15:26 alket VanessaE, ok how to play online 15:26 VanessaE you want the "Client" tab, turn on the "public serverlist" 15:26 alket VanessaE, many thanks 15:26 VanessaE (the checkbox at the bottom of the list box on the left) 15:26 VanessaE no prob. 15:27 alket is there something to determine which one is faster for me ? 15:28 VanessaE you just have to try and see 15:29 VanessaE each server is different. 15:29 VanessaE what might seem like it should be faster might in fact be slower due to slow mods or so 15:29 alket thanks again 15:30 VanessaE sure thing 15:32 Mikeonline hi 15:47 Mikeonline Calinou, is there a "best practice" how to remove unwanted node types from moreblocks? 15:49 Calinou no 15:49 Calinou just don't use the unwanted nodes 15:56 Mikeonline Calinou: so its not as easy as removing some few lines as i hoped. 15:57 Mikeonline that bad thing is i have to add all or none to creative inventory :( 15:57 VanessaE why are you worried about the size of creative inv? 15:58 VanessaE if it's a burden, use a better creative inv. mod. 15:58 PenguinDad moreblocks doesn't add that many items to the creative inv 15:59 Mikeonline depends on config. but i want all available blocks in ci 16:00 Mikeonline maybe i could uncomment microblocks and panels? 16:00 Calinou http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/SVGOpen2014/svg_2014.svg#1_0 16:01 Calinou Mikeonline, uncomment what, where? 16:01 Mikeonline sth like stairsplus init dofile(modpath.. "/microblocks.lua") 16:01 VanessaE Mikeonline: you mean comment-out 16:01 VanessaE and no, just use the damn thing whole :P 16:01 Mikeonline yes VanessaE :P 16:02 Mikeonline nah not the whole thing 16:02 Mikeonline that would mess up the creative inventory. 16:02 VanessaE microblocks don't show up in creative inv 16:02 Mikeonline do all stairs and slabs show up? 16:02 VanessaE and if they do, your inventory mod is busted. 16:03 Mikeonline if its not in ci its near useless. but i have to remove the crafts then so noone can use it 16:04 VanessaE um, stairsplus uses the circular saw to do the work... 16:04 Mikeonline you mean the terrible functional thing? 16:05 PenguinDad The circular saw works fine for me :/ 16:05 VanessaE works fine for me too 16:06 Mikeonline you mean that each node is defined over a loop function? 16:06 VanessaE how else would you do it? 16:06 Mikeonline i prefer copy&paste :D 16:06 Mikeonline so its easy to edit 16:06 VanessaE that's bad coding style. 16:06 Mikeonline i know 16:07 VanessaE and harder to maintain 16:07 Mikeonline but for my modifications it would be best 16:07 Mikeonline i actually use an old moreblocks version which is fine 16:07 Mikeonline i just need the new functional thing for streets stairs 16:09 Mikeonline what will happen if i remove "panel".. from the circ. saw names list? 16:13 Mikeonline streets does not detect mesecons. but its installed. strange 16:17 Mikeonline streets says 1.4.4 dev but is 1.5 stable 16:19 Mikeonline strange things. i have to look for it later 16:19 Mikeonline supper.. 16:53 Krock hi? 16:59 sfan5 hi 17:00 Krock oh cool. someone's here 17:00 * Krock meows at sfan5 17:00 VanessaE hi 17:00 Calinou somecat* 17:00 * twoelk is lurking 17:00 Krock .. 17:00 sfan5 !server meow 17:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 3/25, 3/13 | Version: 0.4.10 / meowtest_game | Ping: 912ms 17:01 * Krock doesn't know if he should start his server for 2 hours 17:02 sfan5 fun fact: 775132 nodes have been dug or placed on my server 17:02 Calinou did you release your â€œmicrorollbackâ€ mod 17:02 Krock how many nodes were pointed to? 17:03 Calinou you can't know 17:03 sfan5 Calinou: 1) no 2) it doesn't do rollback, just tracking 17:04 Calinou why don't you release it 17:05 sfan5 I'm to lazy to create a forum post and stuff 17:05 sfan5 but creating a git repo is the first step 17:05 sfan5 I'll do that now 17:05 * twoelk wonders what an activity heatmap would look like 17:06 sfan5 ooh 17:06 sfan5 thats an awesome idea 17:06 Krock ^ 17:13 sfan5 Krock: unix timestamps are a standard way to store stuff even on windows 17:13 Krock sfan5, ah but the word unix is misleading 17:13 sfan5 (not used by microsoft iirc, but used by many programs) 17:13 sfan5 no 17:13 sfan5 it was originally from unix 17:14 sfan5 Calinou: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest-nm 17:18 Calinou thanks 17:26 VanessaE bbl 17:26 sfan5 Calinou: why "thanks", did you want to test it? 17:26 ecutruin Suppose I can ask here too.. this pertains to MC more but MT peoples might find it interesting.. Would anyone be interested in reading a blog type thing where I go through vanilla and mods and kind of re-imagine them? I'm a proponent for GUIless stuff, and a friend said I should think of just doing an art/mechanic blog showcasing my thoughts. 17:27 sfan5 re-imagine them in which way? 17:27 Krock MOTD? Mod of the day? 17:28 sfan5 o/ Jordach 17:30 Jordach o/ 17:31 Calinou sfan5, private mods suck :P 17:32 sfan5 i see 17:33 * PenguinDad leaps around happily 17:34 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad 17:35 Calinou try not to read both actions at once 17:36 sfan5 "* sfan5 licks around happily" ? 17:36 PenguinDad lol 17:36 Krock lol 17:39 ecutruin sfan5, basically I want to remove popup GUIs.. and kinda tweak how the gameplay works to fit my own vision. I wouldn't actually re-code/re-make the mods.. just blog out my ideas along with art/animations to show people what it might look like. 17:40 sfan5 i see 17:42 * twoelk wanders the barran landscape of the just test server and just wonders 18:04 Calinou http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-flavored-markdown/ 18:11 sfan5 :o :o :o :o :o 18:11 sfan5 nyaa.se is up again 18:11 sfan5 \:D/ 18:12 Krock fils. 18:12 Krock films. 18:13 shadowzone Hi sfan5. 18:13 sfan5 hi 18:22 Krock ehm. Is it OpenGL renderer or OpenGL render? 18:24 Mikeonline typo in stairs mod: if type(register_stair_slab_panel_mirco) == "function" and streets.extendedBy.prefab == false then 18:24 Mikeonline of streets/concretestairs 18:25 Calinou Krock, renderer probably 18:26 Krock Calinou, okay, thanks. 18:31 VanessaE back 18:35 Calinou wb VanessaE 18:35 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/pull/66#issuecomment-54523991 18:36 sfan5 Krock: former 18:36 Krock sfan5: meower 18:36 VanessaE wait, lemme edit that.. 18:36 Krock wait wut? 18:37 VanessaE there. 18:48 Mikeonline !server DLK 18:48 MinetestBot Mikeonline: No results 19:29 iqualfragile howdy ho fellas 19:31 * sfan5 meows at iqualfragile 19:35 iqualfragile i love the art of brathering 19:36 sfan5 of what? 19:38 iqualfragile brathering 19:38 sfan5 I mean whats that? 19:42 Jordach #pcmasterrace 19:44 iqualfragile sfan5: well, you need to take a hering and then you brat it 19:47 PenguinDad iqualfragile: I prefer bratlachs :p 19:47 Jordach TIL hitting print screen shows both screens 19:48 * twoelk did not notice the fish in that brathering :-D 19:49 twoelk this is stupid, now I'm hungry dreaming of fried fish 19:52 Cylus While playing on an indev map, I keep getting teleported to x=-inf. Is that a known issue? 19:52 * Jordach likes the Steam Music updates https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cpAWhdOxwjcc.png 19:53 iqualfragile Jordach: should stop using windows 19:53 PenguinDad Cylus: indev got removed some time ago 19:54 Jordach iqualfragile, and? 19:54 Cylus PenguinDad: Is 0.4.10 old? 19:54 Jordach acting like you know better does not go down well 19:54 iqualfragile Cylus: no, 0.4.10 ist the newest release 19:55 iqualfragile but a lot of pleople use the latest git version 19:55 Cylus Okay, so it's removed in Git though? Okay, I'll quit using it then. Thanks! 19:56 iqualfragile Cylus: yes, its removed in git. there is a dire need for a better map generator 19:57 * PenguinDad agrees with iqualfragile about Jordach 19:57 Cylus I wouldn't say there's a *dire* need. V6 works great. I was just playing around in indev to see what it was like. 19:59 iqualfragile Cylus: yeah, but its so 2012 20:00 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LkFic98OPjtK.png 20:00 Jordach this may be familiar 20:06 Cylus iqualfragile: It's not like it hasn't been seeing updates since then though. 20:07 iqualfragile Cylus: but its architecture has not 20:08 iqualfragile its not flexible 20:08 jojoa1997 soo tired Yall are talking too much! 20:08 Cylus Hmm. I suppose more flexibility is never a bad thing. 20:08 Cylus Good night jojoa1997! 20:09 jojoa1997 Cylus it is 4pm 20:09 jojoa1997 It is called school 20:09 Cylus jojoa1997: My bad. 20:09 jojoa1997 and open house is tonight! X_X 20:09 Cylus Too many time zones to track. 20:09 jojoa1997 Cylus its ok 20:09 jojoa1997 When someone says goodnight would probs be a good time to say that ;) 20:10 jojoa1997 Jordach why would it seem familiar? 20:13 iqualfragile in germany its 22:13 20:13 iqualfragile Cylus: its especially hard to add new biomes 20:14 Cylus Is there even a way to make that easy? Maybe I'm just not inventive enough to see how. 20:19 jojoa1997 um 20:22 AnotherBrick where does word "oerkki" came from? made up by celeron55? 20:22 jojoa1997 Wtf freenode Standard Time assumes when people join it is morning... um freenode people have a life/school/jobs/other stuff 20:23 jojoa1997 I cant help you there Cylus 20:25 iqualfragile AnotherBrick: afaik its a finish monster 20:26 iqualfragile Cylus: yes, mapgens basically generate a 2d-map of temperature and humidity+ a 2 or 3d map of height 20:26 iqualfragile you can then define which conditions have to be met to generate a biome 20:26 iqualfragile and define what the biome looks like 20:26 iqualfragile v7 does that 20:29 AnotherBrick there's finnish word "Ã¶rkki" but it's just orc who doesn't look anywhere close to minetest's oerkki 20:30 AnotherBrick so.. the question still remains :-) 20:41 iqualfragile is there some way to rollback and rollback_check without time limit? 22:03 Mikeonline bye